Evening in Alaska – Open Thread
27 09 2008Back from the rally. It was AMAZING!!! HUGE turnout!! Post and pictures will come in a few hours. Here’s an uncluttered open thread until then…
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September 27th, 2008 at 7:11 PM
my bedtime now, but looking forward to more rally talk. Crazy site, with all of us all over the world trying to hold a conversation at the same time! See you in the “bedtime” thread in the morning.
September 27th, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Okay, must admit that I know nothing about flickr and cannot figure out how to get my photos off my page so that they show up on the search.
Cassie Jeep I have a nice photo of your sign but darned if I can figure out how to get it linked here. I am not going to look at it right now and hope that later I’ll be able to figure it out.
Oh well, maybe someone else got a photo of it. FYI, several people were looking at it strangely, so had to explain to them that it was an inside joke sort of thing, and that the other 4 signs that I’d brought with me, the ones that were quite easy to understand, had been given to others… I even saw a couple of the signs that I’d handed off at the anti-Palin rally a while back. Good recycling guys & gals!!!
While I was out today with my sign I explained to someone from out of town what the deal was/is with this rally: Alaskans want the truth, and we deserve it. This was not a partisan rally, my signs did not talk about Obama (though we all wore our Obama shirts). I hoped that this rally would draw in Repubs as well as others, because many of them want to know the truth, and of course deserve to know it! He asked me about the TransCanada Pipeline deal and we had a little discussion about that as well. Crazy days here in AK.
Best to everyone, can’t wait to see AKM’s write-up. And maybe someday I’ll figure out how to get my photos to you all.
September 27th, 2008 at 7:15 PM
I don’t mean to sound crazy, but is it possible there is another shoe yet to fall with regard to Palin? Could she be faking it? She debated in Alaska. How did she do? Somewhere in my hours online I read that the Obama camp was praising her debate skills.
On another note, is it possible she decides her family needs her and quits the ticket before Thursdays debate?
I’m a blond. Every once in a while I get these notions. Help me make it through the night…
September 27th, 2008 at 7:17 PM
The rally exposes another McCain lie:
“Sarah Palin is the most popular governor in the country.”
Maybe not.
Way to go Alaska! Go Blue!
September 27th, 2008 at 7:20 PM
I keep checking in for the article, but not up yet, although seeing the photos was great. I checked out Anchorage Daily News, who said there were about 1,000 people. I’m really anxious to see what’s reported here. They originally vastly underestimated the last anti-Palin rally the first day I read it. I hope I don’t have to wait for the morning as there’s a four-hour time difference here.
And I must say that I really appreciate being able to edit my comments!
September 27th, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Hey All — you are the Headliners on the BUZZFLASH.com site
September 27th, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Guys and Gals,
I LOVED the pics from all of you. My 17 and 13 year olds girls were crowding me out to see ‘em. May just have to get me a WASP tee shirt (Women Against Sarah Palin).
The signs! Alaskans KNOW how to make signs. I mean, there is no doubt that those were real individuals writing their own words. UN-like the Palin signs at the Repub Convention and that appeared at Palin/McCain Rallys which were printed to look homemade….like a grassroots movement. Not trying to copy Obama at all. Nun unh.
My smile is from ear to ear.
September 27th, 2008 at 7:23 PM
New Planned Parenthood Initiative re: Palin:
I’ve done the donation in honor of Sarah for myself & my two daughters (3 cards for the lady all from our household), but this needs to be seen by every woman on this site. Please sign & pass on to friends/family:
http://www.ppaction.org/campaign/palin_openletter
September 27th, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Pursang,
Thanks for the link! Very definitely worth the time!! Most interesting and revealing! Do you remember from what blog it originated?
slag
September 27th, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Hello, Alaskans –
Sorry to interrupt the conversation, but I just have to ask Alaskans: Could Sarah Palin be faking her cluelessness? I watched the Katie Couric interview about Russia and her incoherence looked put-on to me. I have heard that the McCain-ites may be trying to lower expectations prior to her debate w/Biden. Those of you who have seen her in her role as Governor of Alaska, is that how she normally is? You all sound just as shocked as everyone else…
You guys are great and this is an awesome blog,
September 27th, 2008 at 7:40 PM
Just looked at the photos on the Anchorage Daily News site from today’s rally:
http://www.adn.com/photos/sarah-palin/v-gallery/story/539276.html
Thought Photo No. 17 showing a sign with Hunter Sarah, kneeling in the snow with her rifle showing off her trophy of a dead Lady Liberty, was especially devastating.
~Goalie Sanka Palin
September 27th, 2008 at 7:41 PM
@ trish (19:34:02) :
They wouldn’t risk the credibility of the campaign by faking Palin’s lack of intelligence. Sarah sounds better in the Alaska debates because she is familiar with Alaska politics and issues. She knows nothing of national or international politics and issues. But she’s being coached round the clock, so she’ll be fine.
September 27th, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Until the photos are up, take time for a musical interlude.
Sarah Palin footage of her time as part of the Wasilla Singers, April, 1999. Click “watch in high quality” link under video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVuuhurbZA
September 27th, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Tina Fey on SNL doing Palin again tonight.
September 27th, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Trish. I just posted the same fears.
I just found this link to Palin’s final debate when she ran for Governor.
http://gregransom.com/prestopundit/2008/09/sarah-palin-debates-tony-knowl.html
September 27th, 2008 at 7:52 PM
And you are also a top story on the Democratic Underground
WTG all –
September 27th, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Tina Fey – spot on again!
September 27th, 2008 at 7:55 PM
NEW POST W/PHOTO!
September 27th, 2008 at 7:56 PM
ds55, thanks for the info, but it does not appear to me that the campaign is too worried about credibility. Looks to me like they’ll try anything and so far they’ve been getting away with it… I would have assumed all the coaching would have gotten her through an interview a little better than that. I still suspect she was putting on the cluelessness somewhat. It really looks faked up. Thanks again.
September 27th, 2008 at 7:57 PM
KC Seattle, Thanks!!
September 27th, 2008 at 7:59 PM
**OFF TOPIC!**
For those of you who might be interested, take a short jaunt to the Forum and join our “Aging Hippies for Obama Club” – ANYONE can join. Some of the Mudflatters’ stories that are posted are incredible!
September 27th, 2008 at 8:00 PM
The club is posted under General Political Chat
September 27th, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Looks from the pictures posted so far like it was a great rally with really creative signs. Terrific … lets see how it plays out over the next 48 hours with the political forces that be in AK! I tried to listen earlier to the radio feed, but it seems like they didn’t support feeds for time zones outside of the continental US. Strange…
September 27th, 2008 at 8:22 PM
We in Illinois love your courage and we hear you! I’m forwarding this to Barack’s Illinois office!
September 27th, 2008 at 8:34 PM
Also from SNL, to paraphrase Amy Poehler: “A farmer in Ohio has carved a corn maze in the likeness of Sarah Palin. The way it works is that after you enter, you find you’re way in over your head.”
Night all.
September 27th, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Those signs are incredible! Thanks to everyone up in the AK for standing up.
Sorry to go OT, but these are VERY BIG stories:
This one is about McCain’s ties to the gambling industry:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
Another shoe drops on Freddie Mac’s ties with the McCain campaign:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jnhZ5ehM97b5g022vv1cHSheTh1gD93F6BO00
This one deserves an excerpt (sorry about the cutting, but I wanted to keep it short):
“…when Davis joined the campaign in January 2007, he asked that his $20,000-a-month salary be paid directly to Davis Manafort….Separately, another entity created and partly owned by Davisâ??an Internet firm called 3eDC, whose address was the same office building as Davis Manafort’sâ??received payments from the McCain campaign for Web services, collecting $971,860 through March 2008.”
http://www.newsweek.com/id/161218/output/print
McCain’s entire campaign is one corruption machine! What liars!
September 27th, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Any pix or news on the Soldotna rally?
September 27th, 2008 at 9:50 PM
@Pursang (18:33:02) :
you said
>>>Found this on another blog and it seems to give some background to the debate dynamic seen between Johnny Drama and Obama:
http://obama.senate.gov/letter/060206-sen_obama_and_sen_mccain_exchange_letters_on_ethics_reform/
I know lots of links are being thrown around lately and they eat up a lot time if you follow them all but this one really made my jaw drop. McCain certainly has issues…>>>
I agree….weird and not very nice
September 27th, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Below is a link to a seriously well written Diary in case you thought — as I did — that McCain had military cred.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/27/8045/75117/981/612272
And That’s Why Troops Give More to Obama than McCain
September 27th, 2008 at 10:16 PM
What a wonderful
post about the rally — give
McCain’s boys some hell.
http://www.thehaikudiaries.wordpress.com
September 27th, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Hey Alaskans, does the name “Michael Rovito” ring a bell? Because Lady Sarah was allowed out of the Tower long enough to get a Philly cheesesteak, fell into conversation with another customer who just happened to ask her about Pakistan, and she just happened to make a fool of herself again: she supported Obama’s suggestion for cross-border raids, and when the guy asked, “What about Waziristan? I hear it’s blowing up!” she said it was blowing up, and added, “and the economy!” (of Waziristan?)
The customer gave his name as “Michael Rovito”, and a quick Google turns up a Temple grad student named Michael Rovito, but there’s also a Michael Rovito who works for the Alaska Frontiersman. That’s rather a whopping huge coincidence, no?
September 27th, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Slag, hope you get this. You asked which blog I found the link to the letters between Obama and McCain. It is John Coles and the link is:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11439
It is the article about the debate narrative settling in.
September 27th, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Fine job, great pictures, loved most of the links but just not enough time to read them all today. Will be back again and again. I just can’t seem to get enough of Mudflatters…though I’ve had way to much of M/P today. I’m taking a break until after noon tomorrow, too.
Keep up the great energy and the good works.
Obama/Biden 08
September 28th, 2008 at 1:01 AM
WHy isn’t impeachment on the table for Gov. Palin?
Besides the investigation, it appears to me that this Gov. has encouraged her staff to break the law by directly or indirectly through the attorney general to by refusing to testify.
We recently lost the Gov. of NY for having sex with a prostitute.
She has lied to and obstructed an investigation that clearly needs to be done before she can run for VP.
Why are WE THE PEOPLE allowing this?
September 28th, 2008 at 5:27 AM
I got up this morning and checked this out first thing. I am so happy you got more people and more press coverage. I just can’t handle TV news, so I’ll keep checking in here and on The Forum to see how much it has been picked up.
Having been up to Anchorage many times from back here in PA, I know exactly where the rally was held, so I was there in spirit with you yesterday!
Go, Alaska!
September 28th, 2008 at 9:16 AM
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/couric-palin-open/704042/
death of a political career by SNL
Tina Fey for VP ‘12
September 28th, 2008 at 11:57 AM
SMRNo Gravatar (19:14:47) :
Posting late, as usual…had the kids and grandbabies over, had to do some serious cooking and reading for the the babies…
But thank you for taking my sign with you–it made me feel as if I were rallying with you!
September 28th, 2008 at 3:45 PM
Sarah Palin has introduced an interesting phenomena into American politics: Candidate Mainstreaming.
Governor Palin can’t be expected to answer the difficult questions. She’s a special candidate.
Won’t talk to unfriendly media outlets. Can’t take reporters unscripted queries. No off-the-cuff or on the spot.
No So Sarah!
We can’t assume that as a future world leader she should know foreign policy facts or world economy figures.
No So likely!
When her prepared statements are proven to be fiction, she is excused from the truth. Special!
And the lemurs keep on cheering,insisting she is a viable candidate and that can hold her own with terrorists and potentates.
But yesterday, when the McCain camp insisted on revamping the rules of the Vice Presidential debate to make reasonable accommodations for his running mate’s inexperience in debating, we reached the pinnacle of preposterousness.
Not even the simple community activist asked for divine debate intervention to shelter him from the 30 year politician and war hero!
Sarah Palin has become the all bark no bite pit bull, that will never be let of her leash in public.
How much longer will Americans fall for this shell game?
Reasonable debate accommodations?
Palin is not a differently-abeled candidate requiring a wheelchair ramp or a companion dog to get to the podium. This is not a political leader, recovering from a serious health malady, needing time to heal before returning to the full demands of office. This is not a child, needing protection from media predators or the probing paparazzi.
Hell No!
These unreasonable accommodations are being demanded and abused by the woman that could be President in a mere four months.
I don’t care about the bridge, or the plane, or the raise. I don’t want to hear another word about mavericks and reformers.
Screw the good old boys ntework!
Shoot the NRA.
I want to hear about the USA!
No more gobbledygook about energy production and commanding the Alaskan National Guard from Ms. Palin!
I want her to explain the tribal differences in Iraq.
I want her to define our responsibility to the global community.
I want her to discuss Kazakhstan. Health care. Immigration. AIDS. Torture. Unemployment. Terry Schiavo.
Speak on women’s rights without mentioning that she played point guard in high school.
I want her to release her college transcripts. Her tax filings. Her health records.
John McCain can continue to hide her intellectual inadequacies behind a teleprompter until election day, but screaming debate foul, because she cannot stand up to the scrutiny that every other candidate has, is cowardly and condescending to the voters.
When did we decide that inexperience and ignorance is a protected disability?
Sarah, put up or shut up!
If you can hunt and kill and dress a wild moose, then have the guts to stand in front of a loaded camera and take it like a man!
September 28th, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Great photos by the adn. Alaska has some very nice looking women; glad to see a good many of them have brains to know the difference between a good politician and a crook.
September 28th, 2008 at 6:36 PM
btw – a person who shoots a moose has the courage of a person who shoots a cow. Because that’s what a moose is, a cow. No courage or skill involved in shooting a moose or a cow.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:01 AM
I just realized something. According to Palin Logic, I have more qualifications to be the VP than Palin! Sadly and unfortunately, I was in close proximity, live in NYC, and witnessed The World Trade Center Disaster. Everyday I am watching for suspicious activity and sometimes am dealing with post traumatic stress from 9/11!
Save the world and vote OBAMA/BIDEN!
Also, this bail out plan is a FARCE and SHOULD NOT PASS! It will NOT help the American people and it is a disgrace. Give the money directly to the people! I just read part of the document – it is almost 120 pages – and it is a SHAM!
Read it yourself here:
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/09/28/ayo08c04_xml.pdf