Once Upon a Time in Anchorage…The Story of a Rally.
Are you ready for another installment in the tale of Troopergate? Good.
As you may recall, we last left our story as Alaska State Rep. Les Gara (D), (who for our purposes will be envisioned with a nice shiny helmet atop a feisty white horse), called on the Alaska State Troopers to look into possible criminal witness tampering in the state’s bipartisan ethics investigation, known as “Troopergate.”
When now Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin was merely our humble governor, she agreed to cooperate in this little investigation regarding whether her lust for vengeance on her ne’er do well Alaska State Trooper ex-brother in law, overtook her sense of ethics, resulting in the firing of the Commissioner of the Department of Public Safety who refused to fire him. Palin, for our purposes here, is a frequently-embarrassing, spunky Queen who believes she is chosen by divine provenance, and who overestimates her own abilities, and underestimates those who now have her locked away in a tower somewhere so she can’t actually talk to people. And lets have Monegan as our good hearted, straight shooting, sheriff of the forest. Throw in a quiver of arrows. Ex-brother-in-law? Hmmm. Bar-brawling, bodice-ripping rogue who somehow managed to marry and unmarry the royal family to his, and their, dismay.
Who says Troopergate is dull and complicated?
So now, enter our villains. Ed O’Callaghan, McCain lawyer and our arch-villain. Knowing that the Queen is gone, he insinuates himself right into the power vacuum, and starts to take over. He’s got the whole thing – black robes, creepy red eyes, charts and graphs, sunken face, and lots of nasty powerful spells.
He starts using his nefarious talents to suck the souls out of respected local townsfolk from whence he obtains his power:
Meg Stapleton, former local TV journalist turned vicious attack wolf, sinking her teeth into the neck of the local sheriff Monegan, and giving it a good shake. She is trained now, to attack on command, and revered public servants are her favorite meal.
Talis Colberg, Attorney General and Prince of the kingdom, who is now nothing more than a walking talking mouthpiece for O’Callaghan. Picture him as once vibrant and well-liked, now looking haggard, with a strange dead look in his eyes that lets you, as the viewer, know that the prince you once knew exists no more. He was no match for them.
Back to our plot. Les Gara (white knight) has gone public with his dissatisfaction and outrage. He and his fellow white knights Senators Hollis French and Bill Wielechowski have had it. Even a knight we’ve been pretty skeptical of, Republican Jay Ramras has decided to join the fight. O’Callaghan and his army of drones must be stopped.
Today, under the advice of Attorney General Talis Colberg, seven more witnesses in the case have defied their subpoenas to testify in the investigation. Why? Because Talis Colberg told them that they had options…they could appear…or not. They could obey the law….or not. He is the prince, after all, so why wouldn’t they listen to him? Well, they did listen, and they didn’t show up.
Not only this, but Colberg, under the evil spell of O’Callaghan, has now filed suit to declare the subpoenas illegal. This way, the people he told to ignore them, won’t have to go to jail (which they should) for breaking the law (which they did).
Fairbanks Republican Rep. Jay Ramras, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, charged “there is likely very irresponsible behavior coming from the attorney general.”
Anchorage Democratic Sen. Bill Wielechowksi, a lawyer who is on the Judiciary Committee, said he is not impressed, either. “I just can’t imagine any attorney advising a client that a subpoena is voluntary,” he said.
And Palin attorney Thomas Van Flein himself (henchman of O’Callaghan…kind of the second-rate bad guy who wishes he was the first-rate one. He’s got the black robes and the staff too, but they’re not as nice) has issued a press release to counter the one issued by Les Gara, calling for an investigation into potential witness tampering. Van Flein accuses Gara of all kinds of things that are “reckless” “false” “unethical” and “amazing”….but worst of all he associates Les Gara with…gulp…Barack Obama. And apparently, according to Van Flein, the unanimous bi-partisan investigation has “nothing to show Alaska or Obama for their efforts.”
So, as we Alaskans dodge the lightning bolts flying from the staves of our new evil overlords, and try to avoid being trampled under the hooves of the fighting squadrons of lawyers, legislators and spokespeople, we wonder what tomorrow will bring.
That’s the day that the citizens have decided to grab their torches and pitchforks, and a whole bunch of rally signs, and head to the public square. They want the stonewalling stopped. They want the evil overlords out of their town. They want the people who urge citizens to break the law held accountable. They want their government back. Many Mudflatters will be there, among the crowd. I’ll be there too. (I’m the village scribe that lives in that little cottage on the edge of town, and goes through a lot of quills and candles).
How will the story end? Well, today’s chapter, yet to be written, should be interesting.
If you want to have a hand in writing it, be there TODAY!
Anchorage Downtown Park Strip – SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 27
12:00 – 2:00pm, between I Street and L Street, by the Veteran’s Memorial.
Bring your signs, bring your fellow citizens, bring your voice!
*A kindred rally will be held at the same time, same day in Soldotna! 12-2 at the “Y”.










Get MAD Alaskans! What the heck is McCain doing trying to take over the State government.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
–Thomas Jefferson
Oh, man. I wish I could be there. I’ll be waiting anxiously for the follow up. You have a real talent for the writing, btw.
Good luck Alaskans! Keep up the good work AKM! Wishing you a strong showing from here in Philadelphia!
Go AKM! and go alaska! can’t wait to hear about the rally later
Can’t wait for your exclusive coverage..
Hope this rally brings attention from the media. You are all very brave! Thank you!
This was a great piece today, AKM. My favorite part was:
“Thomas Van Flein himself (henchman of O’Callaghan…kind of the second-rate bad guy who wishes he was the first-rate one. He’s got the black robes and the staff too, but they’re not as nice)…”
I will rally with you in spirit.
Wow! This cycle is getting even better than lord Of The Rings…but with more than one Gollum! Send the whole evil pack of ‘em back to Mordor, Alaskans!
How many geese did you have to kill just to get enough quills to write this story?
This reminds me of a John Wayne western ( in a GOOD way)
Hang Tough Ladies! We ladies down here in the lower 48 are cheering on your good deeds and determinations!
OBAMA-BIDEN 08
She’s only the Republican VP ***CANDIDATE*** — not “the Republican VP.”
Gods forbid.
Okay, I’m confused. Be there tomorrow? I thought the rally was/is today!!!!!!!!!
Hey, AKM, you must be sleep deprived as you wrote:
“When now Republican VP Sarah Palin…..”
Please put the word “candidate” in between VP and Sarah.
Let’s stay away from anything that could become a self-fulfilling prophesy here in this forum!
Hey Guys,
Maybe we can get Stephen King to do the screenplay for his
next movie. This is unreal.
be there TOMORROW?
wait a sec. — isn’t it today [saturday]?
[reminds me of that GOP voter pamphlet... republicans vote on tuesday, democrats on wednesday.]
So, what happens if La Palin decides withdraw from the race to “spend more time with her family”? Is there a recall in the offing?
Alias Can Lightning Palin……………….
AKM,
GREAT post! Almost makes me think I’m walking the halls of Cawdor Castle looking for Macbeth. Wonderful visual of the situation. You do write well. May the Rally be filled with irate citizens who shout (as did Obama), ENOUGH! Take back your state. Alaska deserves no less. Yes, the road is truly “fraught with marauders”, but themudflats certainly gives hope that it may be traversed without loss of the vigorous character that seems to define Alaska.
pheww !
Typos fixed -
Rally Today
Palin – VP nominee now, dog catcher in 09
Let’s face it, Sarah is way out of her league, she should never have accepted the VP offer.
Now she has pissed off Alaskans who may have a lot of trouble giving her any respect when she goes back to Alaska w/ her tail between her legs -how embarrassing – but why should she get to flaunt the law (didn’t she take an oath to uphold it?) and thumb her nose at all of those Alaskans who believe in laws and justice? It’s disgusting.
That woman better hide out in Wasilla for the REST of her term as Gov and I hope Alaskans won’t vote her back for a second term – she has humiliated and embarrased every Alaskan whether they like her or not, she looks like a backwoods hick aka idiot to everyone who’s paying attention to this election.
Can’t wait to hear the rally report from today! GO AKM AND FRIENDS.
Good luck and thanks to everyone participating in the rally today. Can’t wait to see the pictures.
soldotna… remember the story from there about five years or a little more ago. the redneck guy who doused the senior women protesting the war with water, during the winter?
i hadn’t thought about that for awhile…
Wish I could march somewhere! November 5 cannot come soon enough. I feel like I’m living in an alternate universe. The MSM is just ignoring the whole Alaska angle. Unfortunately most people still buy the way Palin was “rolled out” as a maverick reformer and are incurious or incredulous about the truth. I’m still reading idiotic letters to the editor in the local paper about how great she is. With the lockdown on the media, we really are being asked to buy a pig in a poke (although I don’t guess that analogy is gonna fly). Go Mud People!
Sorry for the two unforgiveable typos!
RALLY IS TODAY!
PALIN IS ONLY NOMINEE!
Both these typos (and actually, the story itself) is brought to you by the two glasses of wine I chugged during the debate last night, after which I wrote it! Sheesh!!
*Note to self…never do that again!
OK, I’m off to the rally TODAY!!! Hope lots of you can make it!
And yes, I’ve temporarily lost my boots!!! I’m working on it!
AKMuckraker
Boston is with you in spirit today, sending all the positive energy imaginable your way. We know a bit about revolutionaries in this part of the country…you’re in good company: John Adams, Paul Revere, George Washington, Sam Adams, Abigail Adams, Martha Washington and all the others are with you in spirit! Go get ‘em!
My overwhelming reaction to you Mudflats Alaskans is how very courageous you are! You are an inspiration to all of us in the lower 48.
Are there any TV stations up there that might stream video of the rally?
“( I’m the village scribe that lives in that little cottage on the edge of town, and goes through a lot of quills and candles).”
Hi Gabrielle! We all missed you!
Oh, sorry. I’ve been watching Sarah video clips and and some ‘Xena’; now I’m all confused and disorientated.
Go Alaskans, Go! All of us in the Lower-48 who believe in justice and the word of law stand in solidarity with you. Take it to ‘em, and dig in your heels!
Not that you need it or anything, but I gave you a blog award at my place.
Boston is with you in spirit today, sending all the positive energy imaginable your way. We know a bit about revolutionaries in this part of the country…you’re in good company: John Adams, Paul Revere, George and Martha Washington, Abigail Adams, Sam Adams, and all the others are with you in spirit! Go get ‘em!
My overwhelming reaction to you Mudflats Alaskans is how very courageous you are! You are an inspiration to all of us in the lower 48.
Are there any TV stations up there that might stream video of the rally?
Speaking for the entire State of Nebraska (Because I can see the state capital building from my back porch)
Nebraska sends much energy, resolve, courage and fun your way!
I’m rallying with y’all in spirit!
Hey Grammy,
I live in the backwoods does that make me a hick. Be careful of who you label.
I understand your point but we don’t need to be associated as eletists.
In fact I know a lot of people who live in the backwoods that would say the same about the “city slickers”.
Just back in… congrats on the GREAT new site! Looking forward to the pix and story about the rally… we are there in spirit with all Alaskans!
The Revolution must begin somewhere and sometime… what better place and time… than there and now!
Brilliant post, deserving of wide circulation in this country as the undecided ponder which way the country should go.
The meat of the story is here: “Talis Colberg, Attorney General and Prince of the kingdom, who is now nothing more than a walking talking mouthpiece for O’Callaghan. Picture him as once vibrant and well-liked, now looking haggard, with a strange dead look in his eyes that lets you, as the viewer, know that the prince you once knew exists no more. He was no match for them.”
Many people have gone down the road of Talis Colberg. Those who have resisted have been attacked and abused and fired or pushed aside for others who are “no match for them.” Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson. Michael Moore, who has been demonized by both the right-wing and the mainstream media an largely seen as “untouchable” by Democrats who fear the right-wing noise machine. And, unlikely as it seems, former U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft.
The new Murray Waas story in the Atlantic is instructive. In 2004, Bush was looking to legitimize his surveillance program, which the Justice Department had seen as illegal. As this story opens, Ashcroft is in the hospital, gravely ill; Comey is standing by the decision that the surveillance program is illegal. And the Bush administration decides to do an end-run around the Department of Justice by appearing at the bedside of a man too sick to do his job. But Ashcroft’s aide contacted Comey, who barely beat the bad guys to the hospital, followed by FBI director Robert Mueller. Andrew Card and then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales (another bad-guy who wishes to be a first-rate one) show up with a document for Ashcroft to sign in support of the surveillance program:
“In response to Gonzales’s and Card’s gambits, Ashcroft, according to Comey, “stunned me … lifted his head off the pillow,” and then told Gonzales and Card, “I’m not the attorney general.” Mustering all the energy he had left, he pointed toward Comey and resolutely said, “There is the attorney general.”
Even in the face of Ashcroft’s refusal to certify the program as being within the law, President Bush initially reauthorized the surveillance program on his own. In The Angler, Barton Gellman suggests that this move “may have been the nearest thing to a claim of unlimited power ever made by an American president, all the more radical for having been issued in secret. Not only would the will of Congress be flouted, but if the White House had its way, Congress would never know.”
Comey, Ashcroft, and Mueller all stood on principle. The Bush administration just did an end-run around them anyway. That, of course, doesn’t diminish what these men did. I’ve never been an Ashcroft fan, but in this moment, he was an American hero. Waas’s story and advanced looks at the soon-to-be-released Department of Justice investigation into the U.S. attorney firings (8 more who stood up to Bush and Rove) show just how dangerous it is to oppose these people, how few individuals at the federal level have tried, and what has happened when they did.
What is going on in Alaska right now may be a turning point for the country. Talis Colburg, “with a strange dead look in his eyes that lets you, as the viewer, know that the prince you once knew exists no more,” has picked the wrong side. The Alaskan people standing against those running the McCain campaign, and thus against those who would run his administration, may save the whole country at least four more years of this evil bunch.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200809u/gonzales-investigation/2
Excellent post-see you at the rally!
Hey, just got through watching the squirrel scene in the new Willy Wonka. I think the Veruca Salt character could totally have been played by Sarah. I’m just sayin’…
“But Daddy, I want a squirrel (the VP) NOW!”
She’s a bat nut, that one.
Free Sarah! Alaskans for Truth Rally FREE POSTER
Print it and bring to the rally!
Or, just for fun, order the FREE SARAH design on a t-shirt to wear to Anchorage liberal strongholds like New Sagaya or Moose’s Tooth. I don’t recommend wearing it to the Captain Cook hotel.
Go AKM, this could very well be an important step in( taking down )the right-wing machine!
Those of us in Southeast Alaska are with you in spirit….wish I was there to hold up my sign or pitch fork! I want accountability! I want to know it does not matter who you are or what you are….you have to follow the law like the rest of us. Enough with the “Stonewalling” and the lies! And to think, it all started with just one lie.
Yeah,
The new webside its so good to. Congratulations !
I’m french support to Obama-Biden.
http://allainjulesblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/ci-gt-john-mccain.html
what a cool story. i was vastly entertained reading it. i’m waiting breathlessly for the pics of the villagers with their torches and pitchforks. evil overlords butt-kicking time!
Good luck, you Alaskans and mudflatters! We’re so proud of you! Can’t wait for the reports of the rally.
You are the Alaskans the rest of the country ought to admire, instead of Empress Palin!
I’ve been trying to capture all the documented Palin facts I can at:
http://www.palin-facts.com/
Leave a comment if you think I missed any.
With you in spirit!
Lot’s of people are sure pinning themselves to Palin’s coattails aren’t they? People like Colberg better hope she and McCain wins so he can flee Alaska and be part of the McCain Administration.
If not, Colberg and the lot will be trying to rehab their careers if the good people of Alaka will allow them to.
Good luck to the people of Alaska, speak up for good and honest government!
I hope your turnout is huge, vocal, and that the media covers it top to bottom. You guys rock and if I could, would be there with signs, megaphone, and press. Go get em!!
I can’t wait to read about this rally. I really hope the MSM covers it. At least we know many bloggers will!
Anyone notice how Biden was out spinning the debate last night but Palin was nowhere to be seen? Even more telling – I think we all would have been shocked if she HAD shown up on TV. I mean, can you even imagine?
I just got home from canvassing for Obama in what is typically a Republican part of town. Results: 8 votes for Obama, 5 for McCain, 3 undecided. Obama signs and bumper stickers all over the place. I predict Virginia will go blue this year!
Wish I could be there! I hope you have a brilliant career ahead, AKM!
is it me or is your new site black type on a gray background?
I am soooo excited for the rally! I can’t wait to read and see all about it!!
Go Alaskans!
I sincerely hope you reach someone and get your point across. This behavior is unacceptable.
~Hyla
http://earthyfinds.blogspot.com
AKM–This narrative is priceless! (Giggle) Can’t wait to hear you describe the “old man” himself, someday.
Good luck, Godspeed! We’ll be watching for news of the rally!
hindsite2020
Sorry – poor choice of words
I live in Hicksville, PA
Hey, let’s all support these brave AK citizens every way we can, and if you can, one good way to support our scribe is to have a little treasure hunt, look for the pretty new “Donate” button some where up above this post and make a contribution. I thought we could alternate between donating to Obama/Biden and Mudflats during the next debate. I would love to see really big signs in a really big rally during the coming debates. Go Ak Go.
SMR–I think she wrote the piece last night????
The 27th is Saturday.
Just for the fun of it… watch this from HuffPost… talk about an ‘Up With People’ moment! Really well done!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/iles-misbaracki-viral-vid_b_126188.html
I’m leaning more and more to the belief that everything the McCain camp does, although it looks malicious, is in fact, largely a result of scrambling desperation.
btw, when are the next fundraising figures due out?
If McCains money is drying up it’ll tell us more than any number of polls.
Good God, AKM…you have such a flair for writing this whole mess…I had this smile on my face the whole time. Not because of the serious mess, but the imagery a was pure and unadulterated joy to read. Evil Alaskans in Black Robes with staffs bringing forth lightening…LOL! Priceless!
I still can’t say “Van Flein” without the evil Nazi accent
Good luck today!
If I still lived in Anchorage I would be at the rally with bells on. The uncooperative actions of people served subpoenas with no legal ramifications is appalling. How has our judicial system, across the country, gone so far south???
And I am in awe of your writing skills…I too have created the entire story in my head, complete with sound and voices. Kudos!!
LOVE your blog ~ daily!
ahhh…so it will be the shoeless one at the rally who is our leader!
“And yes, I’ve temporarily lost my boots!!! I’m working on it!
AKMuckraker”
Missouri is a long way from Alaska, otherwise I’d drop in and lend you guys some of our good old show-me-state rocks to throw their way too.
Best of luck!
For those of you wondering where Sarah Palin was last night, she was in the Irish Pub in Center City Philadelphia:
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/29834564.html
Gack, she was wearing a Phillies windbreaker – our Fightin’ Phils don’t deserve that!
But I was especially pleased by the end of the article:
” Not all of the crowd inside was so enthusiastic, though, and a few hundred Democratic supporters protested outside.
Inside the bar, James Boney, of Atlantic City, said he had been a McCain supporter but would not vote for him now because of the Palin pick.
“I have a problem with anyone who thinks the Earth is 6,000 years old,” Boney said, referring to Palin’s onetime support for the teaching of creationism along with evolution in public schools.
He said he came to the event “for a good photo op.”
Outside, Steve Richter, of Philadelphia, stood with two signs. One read: “McSame and Palin. Out of Touch and Out of Her League.”
Were any of those good folks outside the Irish Pub Mudflatters?
Kudo’s for a wonderfully written allegory, just loved it and concur with all of the above comments….Keep em coming and down with the evil doers..
Seattle is with you!
You guys up in Alaska have the foundations of the Republic on your shoulders today. May the force be with you.
We wholeheartedly applaud and appreciate your energies, efforts and updates….and from the East Coast of America, the not-so-beautiful….we are taking a STAND with you all today.
We speak with one unified voice ~ and I’ll be the one in boots!
I hope you can take your state back and throw the McCain (obstruction of justice) people a hard ball that hits right between the eyes.
I loved your story this morning! Very entertaining.
I’m wondering if you could provide an annotated version. I’m realizing that many people around me, including active Obama supporters, don’t know alot. Last night at a Debate party, made up of party faithful and anti-McCain/Palin souls, didn’t realize there were TWO Troopergage investigations. Didn’t know about charging for rape kits. Didn’t know about the party’s involvement in the government’s communication office. I’ve been telling everyone about htis website, but I think the story you wrote only makes sense to those of us who have been following you.
Please don’t stop with your colorful and witty columns. I think you have the beginning of a great script for Hollywood. But I’m not sure newbies will get it and wonder if you could do something to help them.
I loved this sign
‘The Incontinent Leading The Incompetent’.
Stay strong! Be Bold! (but stay outta the slammer!!) Have fun!!!
CNN should be covering this event! Can’t wait for the reports!
I just dawned on me why Sarah didn’t head home this weekend to cram. She can’t even retreat to Wasilla! lol It’s reported that she’s holed up with Willow at the Weston (Phila.) except for an occasional jog (for the paps). I hope she was sensible enough to hire someone responsible to tend to Piper and Trig. Ya gotta feel for the younguns, ya know?
Sending virtual pitchforks from New Mexico — wish I could be there in person! Can’t wait for pics and a report from the front lines.
Brilliant writing, too, btw — thanks for a wonderful blog!
I have tried and tried but I’m weak, so weak… I have to ask. Is jogging good for the paps?
Found the rally point on Google Earth btw so I shall feel as though I’m watching over you.
Good luck everyone and God bless
Oh, good luck today!!! I was at a Watch party last night in NJ and told everyone about the big rally today. This is sooooo great!
BTW, added my Palin name.
ha ha, epic
be careful in trying to edit your user name when posting. see above post !
Virtual pitchforks waving in Rhode Island! LOVED the piece – one of the funniest and smartest things I’ve read in a long time. Love smart people with a sense of humor – one of the reasons I’m on your site all the time and telling everyone I know about it. Rock on!
@LJP aka Revolver Trooper (10:32:06) ,
“The Alaskan people standing against those running the McCain campaign, and thus against those who would run his administration, may save the whole country at least four more years of this evil bunch.”
Well posted. though I am wary these days of labeling sides the good guys and the bad guys, this Troopergate issue stinks of more of the same.
As always AKM your writing is excellent. I always look forward to your blog.
Go Alasksans…lets hope that you get some national coverage this time!
AK, you outdid yourself with this genius post !! Mehopes that M’Lady Maddow and M’Lord Olberman in far-off MSNBC-land might see the torchfires and dispatch an envoy… Alack and alas me canst but watch from Floridaland (home of many scurilous repugs … shiver !) GOOO-O-O Mudflatters !!
Has it started yet?
Fantastic coverage of all the details. A friend referred me here, and I’m so happy to see someone putting the whole story together. I’ve been trying to cover the cover-up in Alaska on my blog, but I’m in WA, so it’s tricky.
For better or worse, it looks like Alaska will have its governor back come Nov. 5 and can deal with her in the way Alaskans see fit. But she is protected against witchcraft.
Wish I could attend, but I’ll just link here from my blog so my readers can get all the details.
Out one hour ago, this Canadian Vancouver Sun paper reports on the Palin the polarized reaction to their comments about Palin.
http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/blogs/thesearch/archive/2008/09/27/canadian-view-of-sarah-palin-draws-american-fury.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage
GO ALASKANS!!!! With you in spirit too from down here in red-state Texas.
AKM, you’re a wonderful storyteller….
I love your telling of the Troopergate story. The vivid imagery makes me wish for action figures! When are those coming out? (Just imagine all the costume changes and accessories for the Ice Queen!)
May your rally today be a rousing success, and the beginning of the plot twist that saves the people of our nation.
May the people prevail!!!
Sending warm vibs from Kansas City. If I was in an alternate universe I would be there beside you along with a hot Jazz band to keep the heat on. Thanks Alaska and Mudflats. We in the lower 48 admire your independant spirit and grit. Keep it going. Can’t wait to see the pictures.
Does anyone know if the Anchorage protest/rally will be aired or anything so we can watch it live??
Speaking of the children, is there any word/pictures of them these days? Not that I’d have her drag them back into the spotlight, I’m just curious.
hindsite2020 (10:29:52) :
Hey Grammy,
I live in the backwoods does that make me a hick. Be careful of who you label.
I understand your point but we don’t need to be associated as eletists.
In fact I know a lot of people who live in the backwoods that would say the same about the “city slickers”.
That’s sort of what I was talking about last night, Sarah is giving us rural women a bad name as she plays into a stereo type people have of us. I come from the wilds of the Olympic Peninsula where my father once chopped the fender off a KKK guys car with a chainsaw because he could not seem to get the message we didn’t want his kind in our town. And no I am not making that up. In our ignorant ways we have been integrated as long as anyone still living can remember I have several cousins whos grandmother was black(married to my grandfathers brother for 75 years), I am better than half american indain. I will always remember Martin Luther Kings marches broadcast on TV on our one lone TV channel. My parents were shocked that there were places that people actually thought skin color was a determining factor in anything, my dad said something to the effect that they must have sh*t for brains to think klike that, my mother told him not to swear in front of the children. In spite of growing up in this “deprived” environment I managed to get a masters degree while raising two children and welding in the ship yard to support us. My folks then retired would come to town during the week to help with the kids, my dad became famous in our Ballard neighborhood (known for it’s really old and really crummy drivers) because he never really got the hang of driving on roads with more than two lanes. He also fixed everthing the neighbors had wrong from plumbing to timing chains for nothing. When I moved here to the Portland metro area my friends thought I was wonder woman, after all I can remodel a house, fix my own car, split fire wood, hunt, fish, paddle a broken down boat, operate most heavy equipment and grow my own food. These are the things you learn and take for granted if you are a country person, there is no one to do them for you and even if there was you probably don’t have the money to pay them. The fact is at least in this neck of the woods you are likely to find a Phd working as a deckhand on a ferry, a young man with a masters degree in psychology running a fishing boat (my son), or a former CEO of a major corporation heading his own five and dime. You see country people tend to be willing to live on less for the lifestyle and surroundings, willing to take some hardship for the beauty you get to see every day. It is a totally different mindset. In some ways people who live in the city are further ahead of us country folk on things, but in other ways the country folk have them beat by miles. I’ll never forget when I bought my house, the realestate agent provided by my company showed my houses to suit “my position” after a week I ditched her and drove around, got lost, ended up on this mountain went to turn around and saw a for sale sign for a run down old house and a fair amount of acreage with a barn, apple orchard, and a nice little pond. The owner kindly showed me around, my realestate helper thought I had lost my marbles, but here I sit happy as a clam within the Portland Metro area, and only ten minutes from work. And yes I remodeled the house myself. I am pretty typical of most of the woman I grew up with, Sarah Palin is not, where I come from we don’t like the nosy and the judgmental kind and I can tell you just from what little I have seen of her that is exactly what she is.
Epic
Alaska Time is four hours earlier than EDT – it’s about 10 minutes from now.
Good luck with the Rally. I wish I could be there. Since I can’t, I’m looking forward to the updates and pictures.
Can’t wait to hear all the details. Good luck!!! We are with you.
I’m having to clear my cache every time if I want to see new posts.
Anyway, had some good news today, all the republicans in my family are now voting for Obama. The last holdout was just plain scared of the idea of a president Palin.
The democrats and the independent (that’s me) were already with Obama/Biden. We’ve never before all voted the same.
Thanks, Sarah, for bringing my family together!
Hey Debbie, used to be my twin!
My great grandparents went to Alaska in the 20′s, my mother when she was 11 years old in 1931. They were the real sourdoughs in the Last Frontier – my grandmother was just like you, would rather build a porch than knit and cook. I loved growing up in Ketchikan in the 50′s and even Juneau later on and for the majority of my life. My Dad went to Alaska in the Coast Guard during the war and did a tour of duty on a lighthouse station (Eldred Rock near Skagway), watching for Japanese submarines. So believe me, it was a poor choice of words and I agree with you that Sarah Palin gives all women a bad name.
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
–Thomas Jefferson
Great quote from an earlier poster. One could wish that some of these statesmen of the early American elite classes could visit us with their wisdom today. Of course they might disapoint us by uttering shocked observations that we were unwise in the extreme to allow voting rights to spread beyoud their landed, white, male restrictions. I wonder what they would really make of our expanded democracy. They might just be completely in the tank for John McCain because he should be the only guy allowed in the ring (Biden is a Catholic-would they have allowed a Catholic?) They might like Sarah as a wild frontier woman-mother-indian killer type. Maybe they would think of her as unlettered but attractive in the role of figurehead for the ship of state. Maybe they would think it entirely appropriate that she be seen but not heard. Though I suspect they would be horrified at the thought of giving her a tie breaking vote in the senate as VP.
My gosh, what am I smoking? Can John McCain really be that old?
With AKM’s excellent and vivid writing I must admit my mind wandered off for a moment and I went into a reverie (perhaps caused by my incredible lack of sleep these last four weeks) in which I was transported to Mystical Union with the Rally. Flashing swords and galloping hooves swirled all around me as Alaskan women swarmed across the primeval bog fields. Suddenly Our Leader, AKM the Blogosphere Warrior Princess, rushed past me in majestic battle array. It was stunning. It was something like this in my mind’s eye.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izYTskwE0As
Here’s a question – where’s her baby?
Some mothers and I had a conversation about this while waiting for our kids. It’s very tricky, because we don’t want to be seen as thinking women belong in the home, making babies. I personally believe we should have a right to pursue anything – it’s really about finding a balance. One of the moms made an interesting point. Had Sarah been up to speed on foreign/domestic policy, the economy, etc, she could hit the ground running. As it is, she has so much to learn, and so much cramming to do, not to mention photo ops (like the bar in Philly), that it’s hard to imagine she has time for that baby. Or her pregnant teen. Or the other girls.
Ensconced in Alaska’s Obamaland, trying to decide whether to drive the 120 miles to the rally, I decided to be prudent with gas and send the savings to help defeat McLame and his mute crusader. Onwards Alaskan activists! And hey, secession is not only the terrain of the right! How about a petition to join Canada? Or Venezuela??
I know a majority of us here in Minnesota are with you too. Wish I could be there, just picked up a new pitchfork yesterday…
I never thought that I would celebrate states turning red…but the iPligence map getting redder and redder makes my day.
I wish there were a live feed on the “Bushies, get out of town rally”. I must be getting spoiled by this blog. (but wouldn’t that be great!).
As it is, sadly, I will tear myself away to complete the choirs and the errands and check back later.
From here in rural Siskiyou County, CA, at the top of the state, where we grow strong women with brains and spunk, loads of love and energy to all of you rallying for truth today in Alaska.
– stan
Here is a glimpse of Sistah Say~rah’s moral fiber as it relates to a very demeaning attack against Lyda Green…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AIDRGzUAw
Nope… I can’t feel sorry for this woman, let alone a so-called Governor, who lacks decency and character. She seems to have a self-serving, juvenile approach the “real” issues…and she chose to place she and her family on the GOP’s political altar. I only hope that she is rejected by Alaskans once she returns…for perpetrating a fraud.
Enquiring minds want photos. IPhone users, you are our best hope
Just checking in. Can’t wait for the scoop. My hubby spotted a McSame bus in Columbus. Grrrrrr. Nice to see Palin so interested in the democratic process. Couldn’t take time (hiding) out in Philly to be at the debates. Keep the faith.
Nothing but LOVE coming atcha from Florida to the awesome state of Alaska and it’s brave Alaskans! (excluding Palin and rethug gang)
What a great article, and a great place to come and feel the warmth…
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”
Margaret Mead
Hi Nebraska Native: I used to live on 13th and N and could also see the neat
Nebraska capital building. Had great murals, too. Say hi to Lincoln for me!
Debbie AKA Commando coalfire PalinNo Gravatar (12:00:41) :
Debbie AKA Commando coalfire PalinNo Gravatar,
If you ever get to Pittsburgh, I’m buying you lunch. I’m buying you whatever you want.
HamletsMillMudFlats@gmail.com
Am with you in spirit from Virginia Beach, Virginia!
I can’t wait to see the update from today’s rally!!! Waiting patiently with alligator breath in Louisiana….!
Go get em’ Alaska!!
Since last night I’ve been furiously emailing every media contact advising them to cover this rally!
What a sadly one sided blog entry.
You Alaskans have been spanked like little bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It really is unfortunate, but welcome to the real world. I’m watching Daily to see if your bitching and moaning is all talk or you get off your asses and take your State back. And, how is it anyway that noone in your state has the druthers and/or connections to get your predicament widely/nationally/worldly known? With all those foreign policy experts living next to foreign countries, does someone have newspaper connections over those ”maritime and land borders”??
Is it really possible for the Rethuglicans to withdraw Palin and put a pinch hitter in at some last moment?? If so, it’s wholly unbelievable, but a great way to steal the election, imho, since I think there are still a lot of voters who just need any reason to not vote for Obama.
You guys really gotta get creative, here, ya know. Someone go public with a 100,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of… (fill in the blanks) Start a tip line. Find a way to make the people cowering in fear of their livelihoods to talk and be able to survive any repercussions. Let them know you’ll back their lawyer fees, help them to pay their bills while looking for a new job, keep them safe or do whatever it takes. Make it all anonymous if you have to just to get the ball rolling. Fund your expenses by selling the stories to the newspapers or book deal.
I know there are people who ”want” to do the right thing but just need a little push off the ledge.
Grammy a/k/a Commando Coalfire Palin (12:07:47) :
Hey Debbie, used to be my twin!
My great grandparents went to Alaska in the 20’s, my mother when she was 11 years old in 1931.
——-That’s interesting I wonder if they knew my Grandparents, my dad was born in White horse, YT in 1918. My grandfather was a special projects man for YT and Alaksa (not so much border stuff back then) until umtil 1948 or so his last major project was as foreman for 200 miles of the Al Can Highway. In fact I had an uncle who until recently lived in ketchikan. Name was Wesley Davidson, your mom might know him or his wife Patty the lived there something like 50 years.
I was commentling on someone elses offense at something you wrote, it was not mine. The fact is alot of people who don’t know better are going to think all country women are small minded twits thanks to Sarah. Just trying to make the point to those harboring those thoughts that it really isn’t so, we find Sarahs type just as annoying as our city sisters maybe more so because Moose hunting doesn’t impress us, been there done that.
Shout out from Colorado. Wishing you all the best at your rally. My pitchfork is in my hand. Sigh…if only my boots had arrived for today. You have folks from all around the world with you in spirit. Stand high, stay strong! YES WE CAN!! Anxiously awaiting photos and commentary.
AKchris
Thankyou troll, bye now.
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipelne Palin (12:41:53) :
Debbie AKA Commando coalfire PalinNo Gravatar (12:00:41) :
Debbie AKA Commando coalfire PalinNo Gravatar,
If you ever get to Pittsburgh, I’m buying you lunch. I’m buying you
I just may one of these days soon
Any word yet??
you go Alaska! i can’t wait to hear the updates from this one.
I was just searching the Alaskan newspapers and TV to see if there was any mention of the rally. Couldn’t find anything yet. But here are some links to watch:
http://www.adn.com/ Anchorage Daily News
http://www.aksuperstation.com/news/local ABC station in Anchorage
During my media search I found this article from Time – I know we talked previously about Palin’s meet-up with Zardari and how he commented on her gorgeousness. But this article tells how much this upset Pakistan and Pakistani feminists!
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1844925,00.html?imw=Y
Looks like this is a radio program live feed from the rally. Tune in!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingRight/Syrin/2008/09/27/HOLD-PALIN-ACCOUNTABLE-RALLY
I love the story and can’t wait for the rally chapter.
Hi,
A Forum problem which needs a moderator to contact me, please.
Even though I checked that I did NOT want my email shown publically, it was being so. Therefore, I shortened the address in my profile, and left the full email address in another part of my private member profile. You can also contact me using the one I used for this comment.
I now cannot log into the Forum, because my email address is “incorrect”.
AAAgh!
Please get back to me soon!
Thanks,
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AK Muckraker,
As we say in Ireland, you truly have the gift of the gab. That last post was amazing in so many ways. Absolutely brilliant. Good luck with the rally. Wish I could be there.
Just want to repeat what I had said on the last thread, before I realised everyone had disappeared.
This website is a godsend. I came across a Rebublican website today ( I think its called TownHall – anyway it was where the conservative female writer, can’t think of her name, urged Sarah Palin to step down). There were over 600 comments to her article and I decided to read them in order to try and see what perspective “the other side” were coming from. I was astounded at the rage directed at the author of this piece. I was also astounded at the outright stupidity of about 90% of the comments. People in effect were willing to be submitted to 4-8 more years of the same crap, just to get in the Republicans. The failings of Palin were glossed over. These people are not the brightest bulbs on the planet and yet their vote will determine what happens to a lot of people not just in America, but in the rest of the world. An intelligent man from Africa posted a comment and was told to but out – it was none of his business. I also saw a despicable racist comment about Obama. I was truly sickened and frightened by the venom that I saw there.
To be fair, there were a number of posters (very much in the minority) stating that with the addition of Sarah Palin to the ticket, they could not in good conscience vote for McCain.
Such a relief to get back to the Mudflats and hear humanity and intelligence prevail.
@Trini – thanks! Anyone know how many people are there???
Clearly there is a conflict of interest here. Normally you would expect a federal investigation to help keep this inbred adminsitration from flauting the law.
Well…this is a federal administration that has set a poor example for Alaska…
I too was scouring the internet for some news of the rally but came up empty.
Good detective work, Bec and Trini! I’m tuned into the rally right now and hoping to hear a shout out for Mudflats!
I used to have a life. My hubby just shakes his head. As long as he gets fed he’s good to go. lol
I’m sure it has been suggested before — but when all is done and over with, a book sounds like a wonderful idea. Wish I was there with you…..
The radio link works fine – thanks
Concerned – I was in another forum a while back where I thought my email was still showing – even though I checked not to. I found out – it still is visible to me – but not to others. Quirk in the system – but it freaked me out at first. So your email probably is not really visible to others.
oh how ye mighty townsfolk humble the rest of us in the kingdom. we send forth our hearts and spirits to join in thy fearless stand against the dastardly blaggards of the King and Queen of McDoomland. your country is our country and your fight is ours. we rally to thy side in spirit, for the country betwixt us is grand and the travel costly. be brave mighty townsfolk. thy fight is valiant and not in vain. be not afraid, for righteous are thy grievances. peace to thee all and report back to us asap!
@ Irishgirl – I couldn’t agree more. I do keep trying to look around and get “the other side of the story”, but I find the agression and venom in the comments on those blogs – not to mention the lack of reasoned, intelligent debate – very disturbing. Mudflats is a godsend, and I appreciate that this is now a community of thinking people that is to a great extent self-moderating and shows polite restraint when dealing with trolls.
Aah – I love technology. Trini – thanks again for the live feed!!!
I can’t tell how many people are there from the radio …. but certainly plenty of cheers for the resignation of Talis Colberg.
Concerned Patriot (13:17:16) :
If you look at your own profile, your e-mail address will show up, but that is not visible to anyone else.
I’m listening to the radiocast too – I’d love to know how many are there, too!
Disenchanted – all I have to say it – thank goodness for the Italian food delivered last night and frozen pizza tonight!
See, Republicans think that they are above the law. Only the kings subjects need follow the laws and only when they say so.
There is one thing I know about Alaskans. You people do not like anybody messing with your state. You will kick their fucking collective candy asses out of town.
Go for it. We are all behind you.
I wonder how many people are wearing their yellow boots there today!
Listening to the broadcast!!!
A site of interest: http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/
The biggest cheer for mudflats when mentioned at the rally
GoGoGoGo Alaskans! You rock! Yes, this rally is just the beginning.
Here’s the link again. There’s 40 minutes left.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingRight/Syrin/2008/09/27/HOLD-PALIN-ACCOUNTABLE-RALLY
Just did a shout out to Mudflats!
Has anyone in Alaska considered filing a complaint against Atty Gen Colberg with the state Bar Association for having advised clients and others to ignore an outstanding subpoena?
Thanks, Bec and Irish Girl.
I was looking at my email address as a mouse-over on the little envelope on the left-side of my post IN the Forum, not just on my private profile page, where the box was still checked “NOT to show” my address.
Maybe that is something just I can still see, like you say, but I wasn’t sure! It’s confusing.
But, the result is still the same, because I altered the email address, I am now locked-out of the Forum, and can find no way to get back in, until someone on-the-inside helps. Soon, I hope. Please!
CP
Wish I could afford to put my money where my mouth is and be there with you.
Judi B Stepper Choke Palin: Back at ‘cha! Wish you still lived here, we mudpuppies could do lunch gathered around a computer
Enemy of the State: “Sarah Palin”. You go Barbara!
She’s “throwing out [Alaskan's] constitutional rights”.
33 minutes left:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingRight/Syrin/2008/09/27/HOLD-PALIN-ACCOUNTABLE-RALLY
Thanks, Trini. I’m listening and I wish I was there.
Let’s all chant — Hold Sarah Palin Accountable! We are there virtually.
Question for the Alaskans on this site. Is this Alaskan-speak?
From http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/palin-gets-the.html
“Thank you for being here for rooting on John McCain tonight in the debate even, you guys, thank you. Yeah. Great to be here in the city of brotherly and sisterly love,” she [Palin] continued. “Thank you and we feel that. And truly all the support that you’re providing us in this area that is so paramount to victory on November 4th. We thank you so much for all your support. Hope we all get around to meet each and every one of you so I can personally thank you guys for the support that you’re showing and for being so reform-minded and knowing that we have opportunity to put government back on the side of the people and shake things up in DC. And for that I thank you for being on the team,” she concluded. “And hopefully we can bring more people from this area on that team, you guys, truly. As our mission, getting to DC, shaking things up, working for you. John McCain and I will never forget whom we are working for is for you. So we love you guys, city of brotherly love. Thank you.”
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” Margaret Mead
OK Alaskans… STAND UP AND STAND OUT..
Irishgirl aka puck muleNo Gravatar (13:19:01) :
Now I’m sure your Ma told you NEVER to go into places like that
Stay with us, here, to get better news, reliable reports, and lots of warmth.
Husband’s family was from County Cavan, mine from Longford!
Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha…… The whole barrel of monkeys needs to be impeached, jailed, thrown out of office, censored, or not relected. Off with their heads! Even the King and Queen of France were beheaded during the French Revolution when people had enough BS. Good entertaining story telling….
Denise.. Was she offering the guys at the pub a job or something in DC??? Waaah? lol
Bec & Trini—
Great work–we have EARS!!!!!!
i would give anything to know how many folks are at that rally
20 minutes left. Great insight on the audacity of SWWNBN’s actions.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stations/HeadingRight/Syrin/2008/09/27/HOLD-PALIN-ACCOUNTABLE-RALLY
Go Alaskan’s!
The live feed is great! Almost like being there!
Can you tell us about Palin’s debates in Alaska?
“In these times, for John McCain to have chosen this person to be his running mate is fundamentally irresponsible. McCain says that he always puts country first. In this important case, it is simply not true.” the media’s outrage at the palin choice is steadily growing and is being directly linked to mccain’s judgment. check out this newsweek article!
Mudflattians/Mudpuppies — since WE can multitask — I’m also looking around the web as I listen to the rally. The report is over 57 Million watched the debates last night.
I also found this article that is part campaign “strategy” and part potentially true. Cautionary tale – we are assuming Palin will totally fail in the debate – but we mustn’t get too cocky. We know here supporters would listen to her give her recipe for moose stew – and think she was qualified to be the leader of the free world. She did get elected in Alaska. (Not meant as an insult to Alaskans!) Just saying we need to expect something perhaps not as bad as the Impaling of Palin on Thursday.
Final setence in the article: There is a legitimate sense of unease that the bar has been set so low for Palin that even a modest performance will be seen as a major success — and that Palin may be capable of much more.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/vice-presidential-debate_n_129907.html
@Cassie,
“Now I’m sure your Ma told you NEVER to go into places like that
Stay with us, here, to get better news, reliable reports, and lots of warmth.
Husband’s family was from County Cavan, mine from Longford!”
Should have listened to my ma! Delighted to hear of all those Irish connections.
YondallaNo Gravatar (13:56:22) :
Can you tell us about Palin’s debates in Alaska?
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I’m thinking you’ll have to wait until this rally ends….seems like everyone in Alaska who could tell you is at the rally!
Denise,
No, that’s not Alaskan-speak, that’s Sarah speak. Throw a whole lot of random words out there and hope that something makes sense. Maverick… good’ol boys… put government on the side of the people… you guys… thanks… goin’ ta D.C…. thanks, you guys.
HamletsMill aka Rot Pipelne PalinNo Gravatar (12:11:26) : Flashing swords and galloping hooves swirled all around me as Alaskan women swarmed across the primeval bog fields. Suddenly Our Leader, AKM the Blogosphere Warrior Princess, rushed past me in majestic battle array. It was stunning. It was something like this in my mind’s eye.
Hamlets, that was delicious! I always wanted to be Xena when I grew up!
I heard one misstatement at the rally earlier – one of the speakers said Vote Nov. 11 -but the election is Nov. 4th!
Bec in IllinoisNo Gravatar (13:29:41) :
I wonder how many people are wearing their yellow boots there today!
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Bec,
I took your addiction advice earlier today and got dressed (one step at a time). Then I went “riding for Obama”. Yep. Got on my horse (she’s a gorgeous little filly) and went to the “next development over” to casually talk politics with folks. We live “out in the country” in rural Western Washington.
I tried this with my own neighbors last week and it was great. It’s a beautiful day here, many people were out and I had wonderful conversations – most were not in agreement on Obama, but that’s okay, because all were civil (even me!) when expressing opinions.
Patience and steel.
Just listened to the rally -
Alaskans RESPECT from England!
Bec,
Oh yeah…about the yellow boots – I tried to buy some locally at Target, but no luck. Think I’ll have to go online and order.
I really miss all of the rallies from the 60′s. It seems like usually our complaints are now registered via email (and how easy is that to accidently hit delete?).
It was hard to tell how many peeps attended as I think the mike was only picking up the closest sounds, but they sure were fired up! CAN’T WAIT for AKM to race back to report to the lower 48.
And I miss Northern Exposure.
Broadcast is over. The waiting is the hardest part…
SWWNBN’s debating skills
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/vice-presidential-debate_n_129907.html
Apparently Obama’s folks are saying they’ve seen her tapes from Alaska debates and she’s a terrific debater.
I..don’t..know…maybe when she knows what she’s talking about, she’s good at it. She sure has a lot of words
Here in South Ga., we’d say the McSame camp has just poked the wrong hornets’ nest.
This is going to get real interesting.
At the radio site I saw one comment that we should stop the “smear” and have party unity. The thing is, as a state the people of Alaska are entitled to their recall efforts which unfortunately is occurring during the election.
Just this summer Louisiana went through a recall threat with Governor Jindal who was not going to veto a humongous raise the legislatures had written in for themselves. During his campaign last year he promised that no raises would occur without the approval of the people. Yet when this happened he said he would not block the raises and let them be a “self-monitored” body.
Anyone who has doubt that one voice does not matter should rethink their logic, because in a grassroots campaign the people started emailing and calling ALL the legislators as well as mobbing Jindal’s site. At literally the last minute (or so it seems!) he vetoed the bill. I was so proud of the people! By taking the initiative, expressing our outrage at his blatant 180 degree turnaround he actually listened.
I totally support the initiative of the people of Alaska to demand the truth because all too often little lies slide by until it’s no longer worth the effort to unearth the real details. Go Alaska!!!!!!!!!!1
Cassie Jeep Pike-Apparently Obama’s folks are saying they’ve seen her tapes from Alaska debates and she’s a terrific debater.
I..don’t..know…maybe when she knows what she’s talking about, she’s good at it. She sure has a lot of words
I don’t want to get too confident, but
1. She just doesn’t have enough to time cram everything she needs to in order to get in the game.
2. She’s limited to two minutes (and the *jack up the word count of the term paper with ramblings* approach won’t work.
I’ve worked on lot on legislative issues over the years. Insiders confirm to me our reps literally “weigh” the mail – PRO or CON, to determine how they vote. Same with phone calls, emails. Speaking up DOES matter. Another tip is the “chain reaction” you can get by copying your letters to several others in departments that are connected to the issue. Then it gets passed around and noticed even more.
Sarah was good in Alaska debates because she was familiar with Alaska politics and issues. Apparently she’s not familiar with national or international politics and issues. If they give her the questions ahead of time and practice a bit, she should do fine.
Annie – loving the image of you being on horseback for Obama in beautiful western Washington!
There are worries that Palin could use a hidden mike at her debate with Biden. Can anybody with tech knowledge tell me if a small jamming device in Bidens pocket is a technical possibility, would love to see her face if she was expecting answers in her ear and nothing happened.
disenchanted toreNo Gravatar (14:18:38) :
*jack up the word count of the term paper with ramblings*
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You wicked UK Lady!
Yellow boots on e-bay – lots of them! I am on edge of seat awaiting pictures/notes from rally. Meanwhile, this is entertaining:
http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=60983&provider=gnews
I like to think naughty, but nice, Bec
It is a thought though isn’t it?
Killing time waiting……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-_IvrNM0bw
@south ga…where are u in South GA?? Brunswick Ga here…
Obama/Biden 08
@Concerned Patriot.
You should be able to access the forum now. Remember, your e-mail address can only be seen by you if you have ticked the keep it hidden box. Try it now.
Want to see SP debate? Here’s the Alaska Gubernatorial Debate 2006 from CSPAN. You will need to allow a window to pop up with the video in it (1 hour, 23 mins.):
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=195195-1&showVid=true
uh oh. i’m having mudpuppy withdrawal. i’m not seeing any new posts.
anyone out there.
aaaargh! I have never before been so anxious for news from Alaska. I told y’all we should have sent KidCam up there from Portland! (The sign’s still there– didn’t get stolen while our attention was elsewhere.)
Back to the homepage to click those little green refresh arrows again…
oh, relief.
my post caused a refresh.
all is well.
Along with Kathleen Parker suggesting SP step down, we have this
“Kathryn Jean Lopez, writing for the conservative National Review, says “that’s not a crazy suggestion” and that “something’s gotta change.” ”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13991.html
…also, after suspending (not) for the financial crisis, apparently McC is in WaRshington today, but did not go to Capital Hill…according to Politico. Plainly, a liar.
Maybe he’s shopping new VEEP?
While you are all waiting for more news from the rally – you’ve missed out on our continuing “hippie days” discussion over on Bedtime thread. HamletsMill provided these two great links to a favorite song from those days – done at Woodstock and then more recently by Joe Cocker.
I’m loving it — here they are. Listen and enjoy. We are Obama’s Friends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOwl_APqVm4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wG6Cgmgn5U
Thanks for the memories, HamletsMill
One demonstrator, Anchorage resident Vonda Roark-Martinez, carried a sign that said “Hey Sarah Can you see reality from Alaska?”
Hundreds turn out for anti-Sarah Palin rally
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/ap_alaska/story/539222.html
Judi – Wow! Brunswick. I’m in Odum, near Jesup (probably didn’t need to tell you
that). Isn’t this amazing!
I can’t wait to see the pictures. I’d love to see a transcript of who said what-sometimes the audio wasn’t too clear here.
Scant piece of coverage there . Can’t wait for the REAL story!
Meanwhile, YEAH, GO PHILLIES!!!
i so wanted the numbers to be in the thousands but i’ll settle for hundreds.
Undecided voter, So why are you undecided? If you agree that the McCain’s campaign apparatus has somehow “taken” Alaska and now Alaskans have to take their state back, then why are you still on the fence?
It’s a clear choice. McCain’s campaign is being run by the same people who have run the Bush administration. They are tutoring Palin in foreign policy, lawyering the coverup and stonewalling in Troopergate, and generally showing us that the next four years will be like the last eight.
So why are you on the fence? And why would people be looking for “any reason” not to vote for Obama? Unless you think there are people that prefer the mess in Iraq (the deaths, the terrible injuries, the permanent bases, the $10 billion a month down the drain); the “‘abandonment of a major American city to rising waters and snakes (to quote Bill Maher); and a seeminly imminent world economic collapse to electing a man with dark skin.
As for me, I am voting for the black guy. Because I want to save the democracy.
Debbie AKA Commando coalfire PalinNo Gravatar,
If you’re in the NJ-Philly area ditto on lunch, dinner, whatever (ever have a cheesesteak?)
I went over to the Anchorage Daily News site to bide a wee while waiting for news on the rally and read the article about Palin’s disastrous interview with Katie Couric, then I scrolled down to read some of the comments. Mon Dieu! There are some wacky whack jobs commenting– assault rifle avatar, threats of violence, name calling (‘nancy boy’, how somehow unsurprisingly homophobic). Makes me really appreciate the level of civility on this blog. We sometimes get a little carried away, but many have remarked on how we don’t resort to name calling and threats. Let’s hear it for civil discourse!
My 2 cents, Undecided voter.
I was a legal secretary for many years for an old University of Virginia educated attorney. If there’s any reason to get OFF the fence now, it is that McSame’s camp has totally thumbed their nose at the Rule of Law in this Country. A subpoena is NOT an invitation, it’s a command performance. Bench warrants should have already been issued.
Call me naive, but why isn’t the fact that there is a rally, however small or big, in the home state of the governor, who is the nominee for VP, not news on the MSM?
Remember the Clinton/Gore theme song, Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow?” Why don’t Barack and Joe have a theme song? I think it helps to fire-up the troops. Any suggestions?
@NMJ The Palin debating video is really interesting – recommended viewing. Includes her saying that if her daughter was raped and got pregnant she would “choose life”. She certainly comes over as very cool, calm and collected when she knows what she’s talking about. Bit short on substance, good on emphatic soundbites.
So far, I am impressed by Halcro. (Actually think it was through his blog I found Mudlats all those weeks ago, but I’m not sure…)
Well, we were wondering what the next distraction would be that McClueless would think up. Wanna bet she’ll have to fly home to prepare for the wedding, instead of debating?
McCain camp prays for Palin wedding
The marriage of the vice-presidential candidate’s pregnant teenage daughter could lift a flagging campaign
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4837644.ece
AnneinWA (14:04:50)
Yep. Got on my horse (she’s a gorgeous little filly) and went to the “next development over” to casually talk politics with folks. We live “out in the country” in rural Western Washington.
I tried this with my own neighbors last week and it was great. It’s a beautiful day here, many people were out and I had wonderful conversations – most were not in agreement on Obama, but that’s okay, because all were civil (even me!) when expressing opinions.
Patience and steel.
Don’t know what part of our dear rural Northweat you are in but here are some specific talking points if your dealing with lifers. John McCain has plans to cut the federal budget this given that every republican president in the past 30 years has tried to sell bonnieville power out from under us which would effectivley triple our home power costs, would be the death of several industries which are located here for the cheap power (wafer, aluminum, airplane) AND he is from Arizona one of the states that has been trying to steal our precious bonnieville for years and in fact has a couple times tried to sponsor legislation to force the sale of bonnieville to Enron. (We hate Enron we are very glad it is dead). Barrack Obama said in his visit to Portland, OR that he considers Bonneville one of the shining examples of how well government can work if done correctly and wisely. For those of you reading this our power plant annually gives 75% of our profit to the Feds in payment for our outstanding debt Last year that was a little over 750 million dollars.
The last three republican presidents put in motion plans to raise money for the federal government by clear cutting olympic national forest if you are in a former logging town don’t use this one you will get labeled a tree hugger and shunned. But these government clearcuts are the reason some rivers like the Skokomish and the Skykomish rivers flood at the first sign of rain because the river beds have been raised several feet by the silt from run off of these clearcut on government land. The last three Democratic presidents have strengthed the rules so this kind of thing couldn’t happen. George Bush has removed those rules.
Remind them what happened the last time we tried to go with nucleur power here know by it’s acronym WHOOPS it was a fitting title. as in Whoops we almost bankrupt the state, you may also remind them that we have the pleasure of owning one of the only active nuclear waste dumps in the whole US. We sued the federal government to keep them from bringing in anymore waste since the current facitily has been caught leaking toward the columbia river (do they really want their next salmon to glow in the dark), Bush is appealing that, should they decide to go nuclear again we won’t stand a chance. He was also talking about the reprocessing nuclear waste ONE reactor is capable of that in the whole US built in Richland, WA sometime in the 40s the Purex is currently mothballed with thought of it becoming a museum it is the sister reactor to the Russian Cherynobal reactor that melted down. If money is tight don’t put it past him to restart it Reagn did just another reason why we lined i-5 by the thousands to protest everytime Ronnie rolled into town which was not often we became sort of like his pet hostile nation. Now if you are the person up in the San Jauns I have more special just for them. Just let me know.
I’m anxiously awaiting the details of the rally. I’ll be watching to see if it shows up on the corporate media.
I hope it went well. I’m looking for it to top the original one!
Bec in IllinoisNo Gravatar (14:22:04) :
Annie – loving the image of you being on horseback for Obama in beautiful western Washington!
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Bec, it was wonderful! Will you please keep reminding me that the official first step in breaking this addictions is getting dressed! Once I had my clothes on I was ready to roll. I started to check Mudflats ONE MORE TIME, but then I headed outside instead.
I too was enjoying our “aging hippie” conversation on the Bed Time thread. I think I’ll post a “New Topic” on the Forum – we could be the “Aging Hippie Club” – all applicant in a hippie state of mind will be welcomed!
Bec in Illinois, loved the links and since I’ve already gotten help from my mudpuppie friends here at Mudflats, it made the listening that more enjoyable.
The Obama campaign is smart to say SP is a good in debate. Helps to raise public expectations but more importantly reminds the home team to keep their eyes on the prize.
Waiting, waiting for AKM report…..and I’ll bet that HuffPo/Daily Kos will pick up her report….then on to MSM
Grace RN NJ (15:00:53) :
Debbie AKA Commando coalfire Palin,
If you’re in the NJ-Philly area ditto on lunch, dinner, whatever (ever have a cheesesteak?)
Thanks for the invite, I may actually get back there someday soon have to go out and drum up business.
Don’t believe I have ever had cheese steak. Should you get out here to the great Northwest I will treat you to Alder smoked salmon.
i wish i was there! go alaskans, you are the firewall between america and the villians!
can’t wait for the photos and videos!
Hmmmm… hmmmm… hmmmm… Palin is doing the blizzard of words thing in this debate (http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/includes/templates/library/flash_popup.php?pID=195195-1&clipStart=&clipStop=). It sort of works when she knows what question she’s trying to avoid answering, but it’s easy to see how if she doesn’t understand the question there’d be no sense whatsoever in her answer. Oh, we have seen that… oops…
Ah, must go to bed… see all you Mudpuppies tomorrow. Looking forward to the rally report and lots of comments!
Debbie,
Don’t know what part of our dear rural Northwest you are in but here are some specific talking points if your dealing with lifers…
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Debbie,
I am LIVING with a lifer! However, my initial mission today was to strike up nonthreatening conversations with folks living near me – that I don’t even know. I don’t know about you, but I don’t appreciate it when someone comes riding in on her dapple-chocolate horse (couldn’t resist) and starts slamming me with their talking points. I am in the relationship-building phase right now and trying to organize a “sorta’ neighborhood” gathering for a conversation, so I am treading lightly. Could this be called political foreplay?
My thinking is we need to be able to listen to each other’s points of view, before we can be open to change. As for me, there is NOTHING ANYONE _ NO REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS THAT COULD SWAY MY VOTE AWAY FROM OBAMA. That said, I have to realize there are folks out there who are just as adamant about voting for McCain. I would be interested in hearing WHY they are convinced he’s the person to lead our country, but I can’t do that unless I am open to civil discourse. Then we can exchange talking points.
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/republican-concerns-about-palin-grow/192226?icid=100214839x1210533521x1200577618
Gop concerned; Wants palin to Quit
sorry if already posted
Well, I left my comment on that times online article.
The end of that article really highlighted the fundemental difference between the Obama/ Biden and McCain/Palin campaigns.
Both campaigns are busy trying to set the expectation levels for the upcoming VP debates and it’s easy to see the difference when laid out side by side:
Positive: We’ve seen her tapes from Alaska debates and she’s a terrific debater.
Negative: Joe Biden is going to have to destroy her for it to be perceived as a victory for him.
I’ll keep breathing the positive air! : )
Anyone seen this blogger’s account of the rally?
http://alaskapoliticsblog.blogspot.com/
Also AP story on ADN
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/539236.html
Hiya Mudpups! I am just back from the rally and want to tell you it was AWESOME!!! Walt Monegan’s mother Betty was there! She thanked everyone for supporting her son – through her tears. It was very touching.
I am not a good estimate of crowd size but there were a ton of folks there. Lots of Obama supporters – but I didn’t see a single Palin/McCain sign.
The posters were incredible – one of my favs: “I can see the end of your career from my house.” The other one that was priceless – it was a photograph of Sarah with an EMPTY thought balloon! LOL!
We started off on the sidewalk engaging the passing cars….lots of beeps and waves! Yes, the required teen aged boys giving us the bird cruised by a few times.
Then we all crowded around the Veteran’s Memorial for the program.
Great speakers – we even sang! I saw lots of other aging hippies like myself and there was the cutest little Baby Girl for Obama in her stroller just taking it all in.
An Alaskan Native woman spoke about how SP has totally dissed the natives in this State.
A woman who has voted Rethuglican for 24 years got up and explained why she is supporting Obama and working to recall SP.
Lots of chanting to recall SP.
That’s just a brief overview – I am sure others will have more to add and AKM will have a full report. I will be sending her my photos and video.
Today is my birthday and I can say it was the best birthday I have ever had!
@ Soldotna Sue
“Remember the Clinton/Gore theme song, Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow?” Why don’t Barack and Joe have a theme song? I think it helps to fire-up the troops. Any suggestions?”
Campaign songs have worked well since at least “Lincoln and Liberty Too!”
No good thoughts for Obama/Biden
However for Palin/McCain:
‘The Witch Doctor’ song (David Seville)
AKA in AK:
“The Wasilla, Wasilla Bing Bang Song”
Sista Sarah Pal-in-Alaska-Gal sings this song…
I told the witch doctor I was in love with you
I told the witch doctor you didn’t love me too
And then the witch doctor, he told me what to do
He said that ….
Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
Walla walla, bing bang
Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
Walla walla, bing bang…
Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
Walla walla, bing bang
Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
Walla walla, bing bang
Glory Hallelujah for Muthee protecting Sista Sarah from *witchcraft*
Oh, and my apologies to Mr. Seville and Alvin and the Chipmunks because this was a favorite song of mine when I was just a kid.
Just back from the Anchorage Rally – seem to be much smaller than our little get together at the library a few weeks ago. Someone said 1400 folks, my guess more in the hundreds (but what do I know). First sunny day in Anchorage in about 6 months. Great signs. Police there walking around looking nervous, trying to keep people from …(? not really sure what they were doing). No sign of McCain/Palin supporters. After an hour the speeches started, I left to get coffee.
I’d have to go with the first rally as far as numbers, excitement, comraderee. More men at this event, same great signs, seemed more organized – less spondaneous feel to it. Still it was great to be amoungst like-minded people.
AnneinWA,
Your chocolate dappled horse wouldn’t happen to be a Rocky Mountain Saddle horse would it? My retirement present to myself was a solid black one.
Rdy2wlk in Smoky Mountains
Alaskans for Truth Rally photos up and running:
http://www.mamadance.wordpress.com
@UK Lady
They are running about a week behind ….maybe MSM will have info on the rally sometime next week.
Thank you Erin, suchanut (Happy Birthday!), other early reporters!
We’ve been drumming our fingers on the table waiting for news!
Woohoo nice to see some stories of the rally coming in. As I was waiting patiently I went over to view http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ and to my absolute amazement it seems that Florida has moved from light pink to a light blue tinge. Great commentary from the blog. I just did a little happy dance. To all of you in Florida keep up the good work!!! Your actions are being rewarded:)
Great photos. The hand made signs are sooo refreshing to see because they come from the heart and not off the shelf.
Saw alot of men (sign bonus: “John McCain says, yea, yea I LIKE para sailin”), very few aging hippies and alot of young folks, older folks. Congrats. Good job.
?Happy birthday, Suchanut!?
A HUGE thank you to everyone who attended the rally, today! Reading your accounts and seeing the pictures have made my all teary (in a good, proud way)!
I posted an “Aging Hippies for Obama” topic on the forum. Tell us your stories and share your memories. ANYONE can chime in. You don’t have to be old, just in a “hippie state of mind!”
Erin– thanks for the update! Great pix– gives a real feel for the rally.
Annie in WA– We just got home from my in-laws’ house– staunch Repubs. They have a thank you picture of McCain and Palin for their $ support! Gag me! Anyway, emotions aside, my husband and I asked my m-i-l why she supports McCain- She didn’t have a clear answer but she ALWAYS votes Republican. We think their church (fundamental Christian) has a BIG part in this, also the conservative social issues (anti-abortion) have been on the top of their list in prior elections.
We tried to say a few things about how clear and concise Obama is but it got nowhere. We did take their signed pic of JM and SP and put in our son’s room as a cruel joke!!
There is brief mention, at this time, of the rally on ADN.com
also, for your viewing pleasure:
http://community.adn.com/mini_apps/vmix/player.php?ID=2221420
Enjoy.
AKM, wonderful story. Hope you find your boots and write another piece soon – with or without wine.
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@ Nana in Alaska – just catching up on the goings-on today, and followed your link to the Vancouver Sun reporter. Mudflats is pretty much the only blog I’m following – I didn’t realize the level of venom on other sites. I feel like as an American, I should apologize to the Canadians for my fellow citizens stooping so low. (honest, we’re not all like that!) In a way, a vote for Obama is like an apology, our commitment as a country to bring sanity and civility back to political discourse and to be good global citizens.
Pictures of today’s event at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTMDJnizaI
SuchanutNo Gravatar (15:38:22) :
Hiya Mudpups! I am just back from the rally and want to tell you it was AWESOME!!! Walt Monegan’s mother Betty was there! She thanked everyone for supporting her son – through her tears. It was very touching.
Sucha,
Thanks so much for sharing. My thoughts have been with you all day! I am so proud of you!
Thanks In the Land and Erin for the first report and link to the first pics. Looks like a respectable showing to me. Love ALL of the signs!
Sometimes spontaneity sparks more passion but look at the upside- y’all took a day out of your busy lives to come together to have your say and protest a (snowballing) wrong. That certainly counts for something.
rdy2wlkNo Gravatar (15:39:44) :
AnneinWA,
Your chocolate dappled horse wouldn’t happen to be a Rocky Mountain Saddle horse would it? My retirement present to myself was a solid black one.
Rdy2wlk in Smoky Mountains
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Rdy2wlk,
YES SHE IS a Rocky Mountain Horse and the absolute sweetest horse I have ever shared my life with! I bought her from a wonderful woman (with a great reputation) in Kentucky…she was a present to myself also!
Congratulations for a job well done both on the moving and the rally front.
I’m a bearer of a McCain-Palin stunt news … thought might be of interest to you all here.
Another McCain gimmick in the offing
McCain camp prays for Palin wedding
The marriage of the vice-presidential candidate’s pregnant teenage daughter could lift a flagging campaign
IN an election campaign notable for its surprises, Sarah Palin, the Republican vice- presidential candidate, may be about to spring a new one — the wedding of her pregnant teenage daughter to her ice-hockey-playing fiancé before the November 4 election.
Inside John McCain’s campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby.
“It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”
More in the Times UK here
MarshallAK (16:05:20) :
Wow. The link got up quickly, and the rally looked HUGE !
Great job !
Chin Trout Palin (NJ)No Gravatar (16:02:03) :
Annie in WA– We just got home from my in-laws’ house– staunch Repubs. They have a thank you picture of McCain and Palin for their $ support! Gag me! Anyway, emotions aside, my husband and I asked my m-i-l why she supports McCain- She didn’t have a clear answer but she ALWAYS votes Republican. We think their church (fundamental Christian) has a BIG part in this, also the conservative social issues (anti-abortion) have been on the top of their list in prior elections.
We tried to say a few things about how clear and concise Obama is but it got nowhere. We did take their signed pic of JM and SP and put in our son’s room as a cruel joke!
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Chin,
That’s what I run into with my husband’s Repub family also. However, my younger son is also “one of them”. He keeps sending me an odd mixture of obscene Obama rumor e-mails mixed with fundamentalist propaganda – that keeps me off balance!
BTW – Just how bad is your son? Hanging that pict in his room is truly a CRUEL JOKE!
Erin, Suchanut (Happy Birthday), et al, thanks for the report and pictures. Since I could only be there w/ you in spirit, it’s great to see and read what went on.
MarshallAKNo Gravatar (16:05:20) : Pictures of today’s event at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTMDJnizaI
My gosh, Marshall, did you write and sing the soundtrack to this video? It was a few seconds before I realized the words to “Mack the Knife” were actually about Palin! Excellent and entertaining!
Love the pictures and video of the rally! I especially liked the sign about McCain going – Para Sailing. Hadn’t seen that one before.
About that wedding – shut down the campaign for a week? Only theirs. That would be good. The charges of child exploitation would be tremendous, however.
Appreciation from NY – A Blue state
We can not reasonably fly to AK to participate in the Alaskan Rally, but we can offer some encouragement to those who did.
Here are some words from JFK:
“Few will have the greatness to bend history itself;
but each of us can work to change a small portion of events,
and in the total; of all those acts will be written the history of this generation.”
Thanks for your part in making history.
Annie in WA
Re:Chin,
That’s what I run into with my husband’s Repub family also. However, my younger son is also “one of them”. He keeps sending me an odd mixture of obscene Obama rumor e-mails mixed with fundamentalist propaganda – that keeps me off balance!
BTW – Just how bad is your son? Hanging that pict in his room is truly a CRUEL JOKE
Hi Annie in WA– Our son is great, actually– he’s only 17 (can’t vote) but he sent $$ in to support Obama/Biden! Overall, too, he’s a great kid. Sounds like you have an “Alex P Keaton” in your house–(remember the very Republican son in the Family Ties show in the 80′s, starring Michael J Fox) You know, it’s good though that he’s involved– whoever he supports!
LOL a six months pregnant wedding dress, classy!
Surely Americans won’t be taken in by MORE drama, they’ve got more important worries.
Question for the Alaskans on this site. Is this Alaskan-speak?
From http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/palin-gets-the.html
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Is that for real or did that come from the new On-Line Sarah Palin Quotation Generator?
http://palinquotes.awardspace.com/
Just click “refresh” for a new completely insane Palinism.
Also to go with your quote, get your On-Line Palin Baby Name from the Palin Baby Name Generator here:
http://politsk.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah_13.html
Gov. Palin Vlog #16: TATTOO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMxjomBUm30
I, too am waiting for the update from the rally. But keep this in mind as you talk to friends and family and colleagues around the country.
Since Sen. Clinton dropped out in June, Obama has not been talking to us. We’re cool. As he needs to be, he’s talking to the undecides. So if you wanted him to do something aggressive last night, or if you objected to him agreeing with McCain too many times last night, take a breath. We’re not the target audience. He was calm, cool (some say too much) but totally on point.
It’s the dog whistle.
Last night was the best McCain had to give. Foreign Policy is his strength. It went to a draw.
We need to focus on the people who haven’t made up their mind. We all know them. That’s where our energy should be.
I’m getting this email from various sources. Don’t know how legitimate it might be. Bobby Kennedy is saying that 1/4 of the voters in Colorado have already been eliminated from participation in the November election. He also claims that 750,000 voters (mostly Democrats) are being excluded in New Jersey. If this is all true, a major crisis is brewing….. pj
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http://airamerica.com/...
From Ring of Fire with Mike Papantonio and Robert Kennedy Jr. Sept. 20, 2008)
Bobby: “There are about 30 scams the republicans are deliberately using, particularly in the swing states to get democratic voters off the rolls. These scams originate in the so-called Help America Vote Act which was passed after the Florida debacle in the year 2000. It was originally suggested by democrats and republicans but it was passed by a republican congress with a republican senate and a republican president. And instead of reforming what happened in Florida it basically institutionalized all the problems that happened in Florida. And institutionalized a series of impediments that make it very difficult for democrats to register, for democrats to vote and then for democrats to have their vote counted.
“One of these requirements under HAVA is called “the perfect match” and what that does is little known but it is devastating. A quarter of the voters in Colorado have just been removed from the rolls because of this–just this one scam. And what it does is they use a computer system to compare your registration application to all other government records of you in the state. So they’ll look at your social security records, your motor vehicle records and any time you’ve had any interaction with the government and if there is any information on your voter registration that is different than the information on another government record that they find they remove you from the voting rolls.
“For example, if I registered as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and yet my motor vehicle license said Robert Frances Kennedy Jr. I’d be removed from the rolls. If your initial is different, if you leave an initial out, if you leave a “Jr.” out, if you leave a hyphen out in your name. And what they’ve done is a study in New York that said 80% of the errors are errors that were done by state clerks who are taking down this information. And particularly immigrant communities that people tend to vote democratic, people have names…spell Muhammad with an “o” instead of a “u” (crosstalk)
Pap: “Are the democrats suing to stop this?”
Bobby: “No, the democrats are doing nothing to stop it. In New Jersey, which is a swing state, 300,000 voters in New Jersey were just sent letters saying that they are now ineligible to vote. New jersey is nice enough to actually notify them–most states will not even notify them. And New Jersey intends to send out 870,000 letters so that is three quarters of a million people off the voting rolls in a state that could decide this vote by 50,000 votes. And these are democrats that are being pushed off the rolls.
Bobby: “Let me tell you about one other of these scams people should know about. If you’re a newly registered voter–and of course the democrats have done these gigantic registration drives–12 million people on registration–if you’re a new voter you MUST include your license or some other state I.D. when you come to vote. What that means is that if you’re a college kid (and college kids now–they’re sending in absentee ballots–they’re not going to the voting place, they do everything online or they do everything remotely–they don’t dream of going to the precinct house voting on election day and waiting in a long line) so if they send in the absentee ballot and they don’t include a color copy of their license their vote is going to be thrown into a trash can. And none of these people know this because you have had to read the law in order to know it. So there is no notification for when you fill out your registration form, so all of those 12 million people that the democrats have registered: those ballots are going to be just thrown out.
Pap: “And if democrats won’t talk about this how the hell’s anybody gonna know about it? I’m involved with this kind of thing every day–I didn’t know that until you just told me. The media is not talking about it. How in the hell is somebody gonna find this out? It’s just incredible.
Bobby: “Hopefully–Obama is getting 66 million dollars a month–hopefully somebody in the democratic organization is going to pay some attention to this before election day.
http://airamerica.com/...
Suchanut- I missed your post when you came through the door. Wishing you a very happy birthday. The best gifts are the ones from the heart for sure. I’m so glad this birthday was so special for you (it’ll certainly be a memorable one!).
I’m thinking in another realm. Can we deploy the brave rabble in another spot?
Last night under cover of the debate and late night financial crisis ; the Senate passed the Shawn Bentley Orphaned Works Bill, and it has gone to the House for passing…….
Essentially, it removes ownership of the artist’s creative works and places it in the hands of the “USER”. It dispenses with the simple easy FREE system of a circle with a c on the WORK: is your legal copyright, Sen. Kennedy’s bill back in the 80′s. Now that he is too sick to defend it, they have changed it. SOme of the most PRogressive Senators co-signed it too……….. Lehey, Boxer, Clinton etc…………. THEY ARE NOT CREATORS THEY ARE LAWMAKERS…………..different skill set, they don’t get it.
Or……………do they?
Under the new law if I don’t PAY a PRIVATIZED data base Company a fee, anyone can take my art use it and I have NO legal recourse. This creates a new jobs for non creative predatory, profiteers, who will build databases..get money from me AND if my local library wants to use the images THEY have to pay too.
Artists are among the last Independant thinker in this country……..Farmers are already under siege, as are fishermen, independant retail stores etc.
Personally I, on a too small SS income, will NOT be able to protect my artwork, and the inspiration, incentive, to produce has been removed………………….
( The starving artist in the garret is a myth!) Van Gogh’s rich brother sent him a regular monthly check, and he didn’t have car/homeowners insurance. horrendous utility bills to pay. not to mention software updates and printer ink!
I bring it here because mcgoo/pain is the anticreative ticket. The warrier & the animal killer……………
If you want to take action,. please contact your Rep.
Soldotna Sue (15:05:56) :
Remember the Clinton/Gore theme song, Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow?” Why don’t Barack and Joe have a theme song? I think it helps to fire-up the troops. Any suggestions?
They do have a Theme song. Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I’m Yours!
They also have a CD of the songs they play at the events.
So, I was just doing some research on Sarah Palin and I realized, every source says she eloped in 1988 and had Track in 1989. None of them give the months. Do we know what month in ’88 Sarah was married and what month in ’89 Track was born?
Annie in Wa
My Rocky Mountain came from Prestonsburg, KY but the breeder was from FL.
They are wonderful horses. If I was to ride him in my mountain neighborhood to politic, I would probably get shot . I am surrounded by red and it’s deer season. I am sure it would be accidental though.
Rdy2wlk
Thanks for the birthday wishes, everyone!
oh, goody goody.
i just had a call from “emily’s list” and was able to tell the caller…and hence her fellow volunteers…about mudflats. suffice it to say, they were quite excited to find like thinking folks from all over.
if anyone is of a mind, someone is giving 2 dollars for every 1 dollar donated to emily’s list for the purpose of supporting female candidates.
it was my pleasure to help them out with a donation.
@MarshallAK (16:05:20) :
Pictures of today’s event at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTMDJnizaI
I really enjoyed this, thanks Marshall
gizmoNo Gravatar (16:28:59) : I’m getting this email from various sources. Don’t know how legitimate it might be. Bobby Kennedy is saying that 1/4 of the voters in Colorado have already been eliminated from participation in the November election. He also claims that 750,000 voters (mostly Democrats) are being excluded in New Jersey. If this is all true, a major crisis is brewing….. pj
Gizmo, you have published a fairly accurate transcript of the first part of the “Ring of Fire” Air America show that was on 9/20/2008. I can’t at this time attest to its authenticity, but we all have been hearing about various registration scams the Rethugs have been pulling. You can hear it here:
http://airamerica.com/node/86106
DB, The baby was born 8 monthe later!!!!
The Rethugs will not get away with stealing democracy again!!!! Ever!!! People are not going to take it this time!!! It could get very nasty, so they better think twice about deception!
I’ve heard of other things they are doing, but I can tell you, as mad as a lot of people are now…let them try to still this election!!!
DB: I think it was covered before, but yes, Track was born eight months after her wedding, so yes, presumably she was pregnant before getting married. Uh-huh.
AKM: Keep us posted on the rallies. I worry about you folks, but I also think it must be a good thing, to bring ‘sunshine as disinfectant’ to the unique politics of a unique place. I wonder, do you think Alaska will be forever changed (has been changed) as a result. I think the liberal/progressive community has come together in a way that has never happened before and that is a wonderful thing. I think this election is doing that for many of us.
Meanwhile, ‘Troopergate’ is turning into bad television, really. If you don’t laugh you have to cry. Spot any witches today?
Meanwhile, in some polling MN has turned from blue to ‘toss-up.’ So I have my work cut out for me. Not sure what’s going on, I need to check with the local DFL office.
Randomly, I was at the public library today and there was a kid’s book, ‘When the Wolves Came Back to Yosemite.’ Great story about how the wolves have been essential to the health of Yosemite park, and how it was failing and out of balance without them. If you are at the library, check it out.
Even the WSJ is saying this bailout stinks if there is no equity or accountability. I guess if nothing is done by 1 October things could get really bad. How can so many have been wrong about how to run things? Culture does indeed flow from the chief executives, that’s part of the answer.
Geese Whalebone Palin:
8 months? was he early? I know it was a pretty rushed affair (when the Palins found out they needed witnesses, they just asked two elderly strangers to stand in for them, right?)
has this already been discussed and I just missed it? it seems like a pretty big thing not to be mentioned, coupled with the hasty marriage. Do you know the exact dates of the marriage and birth?
Geese whalebone, et al.
Not sure very many people will think it terribly relevant that Sarah’s first baby was born 8months after she was married.
This opens us up to attacks that we’re being unfairly personal. but there are plenty of other lies to cover.
For instance, Andrew Sullivan has been searching for evidence of trade missions with Russia, and finds none. Anybody know of any?
Not sure very many people will think it terribly relevant that Sarah’s first baby was born 8months after she was married.
I agree!!!! Just sayin’!!!!
DBNo Gravatar (17:00:21) : has this already been discussed and I just missed it? it seems like a pretty big thing not to be mentioned, coupled with the hasty marriage. Do you know the exact dates of the marriage and birth?
DBNo, sorry to say, this is old news, not much reported in the MSM, and sorta overshadowed by all the other cockroaches crawling out from under SP’s carpet.
The Rule of Law
http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/principles/law.htm
If McSame doesn’t lose on this one, there will be a revolution in this Country.
These subpoenas are legal instruments of law under the laws of the State of Alaska.
Bench warrants should have already be issued, and deputies should be waiting at the airport to arrest Todd Palin for contempt of court. They should have already picked up those residing in Alaska.
Oh wow. Aol has picked up the story of the rally. They have pictures. I did not look at them all but one of my favorites was the sign of Palinochio. Aol and Cnn are part of the same media family. This should be making MSM.
lemonfair:
I’d disagree that we’re being unfairly personal. I was a HUGE Edwards supporter and now all hopes of him ever reaching office are crushed because he had an affair.
If Palin really did have a shotgun marriage and now Bristol is in the same situation, shouldn’t it reflect on the Palins’ morals the same way Edwards’ actions reflected on his? True, infidelity is different from an accident, but either both are personal, or both are a reflection of your character and responsibility.
AnneinWA (15:33:51) :
I am LIVING with a lifer! However, my initial mission today was to strike up nonthreatening conversations with folks living near me – that I don’t even know. I don’t know about you, but I don’t appreciate it when someone comes riding in on her dapple-chocolate horse (couldn’t resist) and starts slamming me with their talking points.—————
Not sugesting you shove it in their face just giving you a few local reasons YOU might want to vote for Obama. These are some of the reasons I switched from being a republican, they are the same reasons my mother, my three living aunts and even, heaven help me, my three red neck brothers are supporting Obama these are all former republicans who I am sorry to say voted for George Bush. My uncle is fence sitting at the moment this is a man who can make me want to scream in frustration with his conservitive views which he spouts regularly, is really leaning away from McCain and more to Obama. This side of my family has been living out in the bushes since before Washington was a state. I don’t fight with people I give them the reasons for my choice on a local close to home level they probably haven’t considered, they can then can then digest the information and do what they want with it. I listen to their points of view as well, I live in an area where conservitives are as common as, dare I say it, mosquitios while they will not change my choice non threatening visiting is good.
This is going to bite mcsame, et. al big time, as well it should.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/27/Palin_aides_ignore_subpoenas/UPI-10341222563439/
MarshallAKNo Gravatar (16:05:20) :
THANKS for the video – and the entertainment. I mean…I had to laugh. I know it’s not a funny situation, but your song made it impossible not to snicker and snarl at the same time!
YES WE CAN ANNE!
http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/538881.html
Monegan releases e-mails PROVING that Palin’s aides knew about his trip to DC.
Shout out from Florida — keep up the great work Alaskans!
More Rally details…
Shannyn Moore was there and was absolutely fabulous! Hysterically funny and spot on with her comments. She is really quite beautiful inside and out. There is a link to her blog above somewhere – check her out if you don’t know about her. I hope they put her on Olberman again – she could do her own show!
Celtic Diva from Blue Oasis was also there and thanked all the Alaska and Progressive bloggers out there. I hooted when they mentioned Mudflats, of course. I had a little pair of yellow boots on the corner of my sign…
And here’s some context for you. The speakers were, for the most part, not too well known. Why? Many of the folks contacted and asked to speak said they are afraid of retribution!!! I’m sure AKM knows more about all of that and will share it with us…I mean WTF!
There was a guy there in a Nixon mask and suit, doing the double peace sign with a sign around his neck that read:
“Stonewall It. Plead the Fifth. – Palin Truth Squad – we learn from the best.”
There was also a faux Sarah there, glasses, lipstick – one of those plastic mask thingies – someone got a shot of the two of them together, I missed it.
Off for Birthday dinner – Later Mudpups…
Chin Trout Palin (NJ)No Gravatar (16:25:02) :
Hi Annie in WA– Our son is great, actually– he’s only 17 (can’t vote) but he sent $$ in to support Obama/Biden! Overall, too, he’s a great kid. Sounds like you have an “Alex P Keaton” in your house–(remember the very Republican son in the Family Ties show in the 80’s, starring Michael J Fox) You know, it’s good though that he’s involved– whoever he supports!
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Chin,
Sometimes I think it’s a good thing he is involved. However, he is 42-years-old and gets his news from TV and his wife’s fundamentalist family (nothing against ANYONE’S religion!). I simply think pulling his head out of his…uh…small array of sources for a while and doing a bit of research might be enlightening.
Debbie AKA Commando coalfire PalinNo Gravatar (17:08:54) :
I live in an area where conservitives are as common as, dare I say it, mosquitios while they will not change my choice non threatening visiting is good.
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Deb
My situation is much like yours. I only found ONE neighbor who is an Obama supporter but afraid to put up a sign (if we could find any!). I am gonna have to make one! Are you residing in Washington now?
I expect Palin to perform well in the VP debate.
ESPECIALLY since the bar is being put so very, very low. At this point, if Palin just shows up she is beating “expectations.”
Let’s help our side and Joe Biden out by not making it so easy for Palin to beat expectations. It is not fair to expect so little of a VP.
Palin is spending a LOT of time being coached, memorizing lines, and practicing how to deliver them. She will do GREAT! It is not like she will be taking a test where she doesn’t know the answers. She has a TEAM of educated, politically sharp, partisans MAKING UP THE ANSWERS. Daily, if not hourly, rehersing. Palin will be WELL REHERSED. Ready for . . . moose. Able to DELIVER zippy coherent REHERSED ANSWERS no matter what. She WILL do well. Plus she is attractive, so she will get cut some slack on that alone. She and her handlers plan to use every edge.
HIGH EXPECTATIONS for Republican Vice Presidential Nominee Governor Sarah Palin. The higher the expectations, the farther she has to fall.
I’m trying to put a rally of 1000 people in Alaska into perspective for those of us not from Alaska.
Starting with the question – how many people live in fairly easy driving distance of Anchorage?
I’m finding on the web that most of Alaska’s population of 600,000 lives in South-central Alaska – the area that Anchorage is in. I don’t know if that is all easy driving distance, but it’s a place to start.
40% of Alaska’s population – 260,000 people – live in Anchorage. So, to probably overestimate the population of South-Central Alaska, let’s say 400,000 live in driving distance.
If 1000 people were at the rally, that is 1 of every 400 people in the area.
4 Million people live in the greater Seattle area. If 1 of every 400 people in the greater Seattle area came to a rally there, there would be 10,000 people at that rally.
Again, I don’t know the area. Please correct my numbers, etc. I’m trying to put this in perspective for those of us not familiar with Alaska.
The rally was mentioned on the CBS tv news this evening, but no video, and no numbers cited.
ohiovoter, HamletMills, Cassie Jeep, LJP, and anyone else who kindly answered about Palin-speak,
The quote I asked about came from ABC news, which quoted Palin word for word. Like they believe it will matter to those who only vote Republican and Anti-Abortion. From http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/palin-gets-the.html
I am glad to hear that she does Palin-Speak, not Alaskan-Speak. It so underlines her likeness to our beloved Bush. GAG.
Anne in WA–
I was 39 at the last election — I voted for Bush (believed Colin Powell at the UN meeting w/ the WMD photos) I’ve since changed my party affiliation to independent, and then to Dem (in NJ you have to declare to vote in a primary)–so, there is hope for your son– (and, hopefully, my in-laws) and most importantly, our country!
Go Obama/Biden 08
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Re: the wedding — I thought the Republicans said that “families are off limits in this campaign” ??
(Just ANOTHER lie ?!?!)
VP Debates – Her MO in the Gubernatorial debates was to have an elaborate system of note cards behind the podium which she would flip through to get to the right subject. She has that TV commentator ability to glance at a script while talking to the camera/audience. If the moderator lets her get away with a general answer on say energy, defense, solar power, etc she’ll look good. If she gets pressed for specifics or if an answer is on in her cards, she’ll slip back in to that no verb, no subject, no point babble.
When debating Knowles and Halcro for Gov, they tried to draw her out from behind the podium, but to no avail.
Let’s all hope for a good moderator.
Chin Trout Palin (NJ)No Gravatar (17:48:17) :
Anne in WA–
I was 39 at the last election — I voted for Bush (believed Colin Powell at the UN meeting w/ the WMD photos) I’ve since changed my party affiliation to independent, and then to Dem (in NJ you have to declare to vote in a primary)–so, there is hope for your son– (and, hopefully, my in-laws) and most importantly, our country!
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Chin,
You give me hope! Thanks…and YES WE CAN…we have to!
galwhohashadenough!No Gravatar (15:47:10) :
Woohoo nice to see some stories of the rally coming in. As I was waiting patiently I went over to view http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/ and to my absolute amazement it seems that Florida has moved from light pink to a light blue tinge. Great commentary from the blog. I just did a little happy dance. To all of you in Florida keep up the good work!!! Your actions are being rewarded:)
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look at indiana—- look at indiana! it was red then slight red for the longest time! don’t stop people!
Andrew Halcro has a link to a tape from the 2006 Governor Debates up on his blog. I watched about half of it (it is the full debate). Palin wasn’t that bad. Not at all. Either McCain has turned her into a drooling mass of meaningless words in less than 4 weeks or perhaps they’ve been setting us up with low expectations in the hopes of delivering a surprise. With McCain one never knows what low and creepy levels he’ll stoop to just to win.
hindsite – I’ve lived in Boston and the tony suburbs thereabouts, and I live now near Perry County, pennsyltucky – a place where large appliances are often on porches, where amc javelin in the front yard doesn’t have any tires (or trunk hood), where many people don’t have most of their teeth, where there’s a deer rifle in every house and three on the gunrack in the pickmeup truck, where little girls are tougher than their daddies, where a mother’s brother may also be her uncle or grandfather, and where banjos can be heard on those warm summer nights…
No one really cares if a mudpuppy is a back bay elitist or a backwoods hicks. We all want the same thing: a return to a sane and competent government and a one-way ticket back to Wasilla for Sarah Palin.
Lila,
It depends how far you define as “driving distance”. Anchorage has only one road leading in from the north, and one from the south. To the south, there are no real population centers worth mentioning for over 120 miles. To the north, we have the Mat-Su valley, which contains the now world-famous Wasilla, and much smaller Palmer. Both these towns are about 45 minutes or more from Anchorage. After them, the population gets very sparse very quickly. So, I’d say 300K-350K within “driving distance” from Anchorage.
On a related topic, while I agree that Sarah’s performance with Katie Couric was cringe-worthy, I wonder how much was due to her trying to recall/regurgitate talking points, versus speaking from the heart. In other words, if the questions were more geared towards how she would handle situations if she were president, versus defending John McCain’s record.
Great post on the continuing Troopergate saga. I just read on the KTUU that Frank Bailey has returned to work. At least he is sctually working for his pay now. I suppose he can be cast as one of the Queen’s inner circle of lackeys. The one who is so loyal and willing to do her bidding until one day when he goes a bit too far…
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=9083182
“It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”
You gotta love that one. They are equating the shot-gun marriage of a couple of errant teenagers with the wedding of Charles and Di. Yeah right, the entire country will be watching…
When did a shot-gun wedding morph from something rather embarrassing to an epic event?
Joy from Wisconsin aka Chisel Dustup PalinNo Gravatar (18:11:22) :
Andrew Halcro has a link to a tape from the 2006 Governor Debates up on his blog. I watched about half of it (it is the full debate). Palin wasn’t that bad.
The difference is in that debate she was talking about things she is familiar with. Sarah Palin is not familiar with world affairs. I get the feeling that she paid very little attention to what was going on in the world around her. She seems to be the kind of person who is centered only on herself and how her immediate world affects her. I’m betting that any one of us was more knowledgeable about what is happening in the world around us than Sarah Palin was when she first hit DC.
In the Land of DisbeliefNo Gravatar (17:52:52) :
VP Debates – Her MO in the Gubernatorial debates was to have an elaborate system of note cards behind the podium which she would flip through to get to the right subject. She has that TV commentator ability to glance at a script while talking to the camera/audience.
Please tell me that they are not going to allow her to bring notes into the debate. That kind of defeats the purpose, don’t you think?
@lila:
There is no way that there are 400,000 w/in easy commute of Anchorage. If Anchorage has 260,000, Wasilla – 50 mi out – has about 6,000, Eagle River/Chugiak/Peter’s Creek – 15 to 25 mi out – has about 15,000 (perhaps that’s generous? can’t remember numbers), Girdwood/Indian 15-25 mi out- has about 2,000, Palmer – 40mi? out – about 3,000?
Alaska is huge and there are lots of places that you have to get to via air (Juneau, the capital, cannot be reached via car, several other good-sized cities in SEast). Fairbanks is quite large (for Alaska) and is about 6 hours away by car. Kenai & Soldotna are good-sized cities/towns but are 3+ hours away by car. The towns above that I gave numbers for are really the only ones within easy commuting distance.
Just watched Tina Fey open SNL as Sarah Palin – it was brilliant.
Just found this on CNN – Protest outside of the pub Sarah Palin went to to watch the debates in Philadelphia. looks liks she will pull out before her debates…..she really should
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-95763
Those of us who live down here on the Kenai Peninsula had a supporting rally to our friends and soul mates in Anchorage. We did our best to show that there are some Alaskans who think Palin is a sad joke. We are in deep red territory here so it took some bravery. We got quite a few honks and waves and only a few flip-offs. One idiot yelled,”white power” at us but we kept smiling and waving our signs.
It was a beautiful day and some people took a lot of pictures of our efforts too! We had a good time and will gladly do it again at a moments notice.
We are so mad that the powerful McCain lawyers have taken over our state!
You are doing your nation a tremendous service…and keeping us laughing. No small task.
All I know is where there is smoke there is fire, and there’s a whole lot of high powered McCain smoke up there trying to make this go away.
freelevi.org !!!!