Bedtime in Alaska – Open Thread
What a day! Before I pour myself into bed, I thought I’d share some great videos from today’s rally. Enjoy! And thanks to all the Mudflatters who were there today, and all those who were there in spirit!
Good slideshow of the Alaskans for Truth Rally.
Shannyn Moore speaks at the rally.
I don’t know who did this, but it’s great. “Sarah the Knife” musical montage.
Keep up the fight Alaska!
Good evening from Australia *waves*
Great videos…
LOL …I have become so fascinated with Alaska that I have had to add Anchorage to my ‘World Clock’. I must admit my ignorance here, I always thought you were on the same time line as Los Angeles. I was surprised to see that you are an hour behind them.
PS… how about a couple of clocks on the blog below the map ? ( which I just love ! )
Love the videos! Thanks for sharing them!
Go Obama-Biden ’08!
**OFF TOPIC!**
For those of you who might be interested, take a short jaunt to the Forum and join our “Aging Hippies for Obama Club” – ANYONE can join. Some of the Mudflatter’s stories that are posted are incredible!
The “club” is posted at General Political Discussion
@Anne – don’t you ever sleep???
Alaskans, you got it going on! You’re rock stars.
A big shout out from Sacramento…and we hear you loud and clear.
Thanks Alaskans for speaking the truth
AnneinWA
Thanks for letting me know about the aging hippie forum. I haven’t figured out forums yet. I’ll be there in a day or two.
Great videos. The third one was a real winner.
Great job AK. Thanks for those videos and thanks to the wonderful people of Alaska. Your/Their actions should result in a cleaned-up state government, as you spare the rest of the world from McSame/Palien
Priceless. Thanks for the wake-up laughs.
Just trying to catch up on all of the overnight additions. Yes, we were ALL there in spirit, AKM. The signs, the speakers, the messages represent the true
American spirit. Keep up the pressure!
And thanks for being a positive safe haven for so many of us who are frustrated beyond.
Alaskans are showing America how democracy works..Good work..loved the U Tube videos…they are on their way to family and friends…
AWESOME VIDS!
keep up the good works my dear akm! i hope sarah gets to see the force she coming back home to face…
Great stuff. The only problem is, it will be played down as Al Khaida operatives infiltrating Alaska (supported by the Russians) requiring immediate (preemtpive) military intervention by the Alaska national guard under the command of our lady the Saviour, Sarah.
Great job! Makes me even prouder to be an American (and wannabe Alaskan).
(Sighs) Folks, I say to you again that the bar for Palin is now set so low, that if she actually walks out of that room alive, she wins.
Some of these signs are pure genius. This whole event demonstrates the kind of individual and collective intelligence and creativity in action that democracy depends on for survival. Thank you Alaskans for bolstering our spirits and reminding us what can and must be done.
Thank You – Thank You – Thank You!!! I am so proud of my new Alaskan family.
Spent most of yersterday tying up extra work I didn’t get done while reading mudflats so that I will have time to go to mudflats.
Every 15 mins stopping to cosmically send some positive energy to my brethren in Alaska.
Sending out as many press releases about the rally to media connections all week by us has worked. People are getting it; All Alaskans are not blindly supportive of Sarah Palin.
When people try to give me the executive experience line I now say;
a. Four years as POTUS didn’t help Bush the second term.
b. Took her less than two to get investigated for ethics and abuse of power.
c. What kind of experience does she have when she hasn’t had to balance a budget deficit and with a surplus has been reticent to tackle the REAL issues of Alaskans? I’ll give you a week for your answer.
d. How many times have you met a Lady who seemed to have it all together and you thought that she MAY be the one and then when the spell wore off and you paid attention you found that you were in bed with a total nut case?
You guys are the greatest!!! Keep up the good work. We’re here trying to turn Florida a DEEP BLUE. Go AKM and Alaskans for truth.
Rickets Nixon Spirograph Agnew in Oz Like Wahateverrrrr(05:08:13) :
Maybe it’s so low that all she has to do is show she has a pulse… but perhaps she’s a were-pit bull (a domestic variant of werewolf) and doesn’t have a pulse. It seems logical given her obsession with witchcraft. Do you think her candidacy might be some sort of odd Halloween prank? After all, the election is only a few days later.
Thanks AKM—your videos, photos, and words are the next best thing to being there….Great job!!
LOVED the videos!! Great Job Alaskans!!
OK on another note late last night I turned from political talk to watch Chris Rock, Boxing and 30 Days of Night.
In the story a small Northern off road Alaskan town was taken over by vampires during 30 straight days of nightime. It reminded me of the fragility of the small towns way up north that are off the road system and I wondered are they really ignored for weeks while they sit in darkness?
My life and attitude about Alaska has been changed forever… I was the Black lady who didn’t get off the ship for long because I felt an energy of unwelcomeness that my white traveling companions also picked up on.
I have now pre-booked two trips by air with open dates and await feedback from ALASKANS when I should take my two 5 day trips over the next few months. ( Is the Anchoage Sheraton nice digs?)
Waiting for input: It would be great if next trip can be during an Anti-Palin rally pre- election and the other when she is being impeached.
The audio is amazing, let me know if you have a lyrics sheet…that would be worth having around.
You Alaskans, you…once you get going you will get to the bottom of it, no questions. It’s interesting how the progressives/libs, true old-fashioned conservatives, and libertarians have similar views on Palin and the whole political scene nationally. It’s all about good government, equity, accountability, and just plain golden rule.
AKM, does it feel great!? I know it does, to see all those people together who care.
Thank you Alaska, you have made me cry to see real Democracy in Action and coming out for the Real Truth. American thanks you.
KILLER sarah the knife song! please post lyrics!
OK Here’s the link to the Tina Fey SNL experience
http://www.hulu.com/watch/36863/saturday-night-live-couric–palin-open
You can post upcoming Alaskan rally or event dates here:
http://sobenola.wordpress.com
I created that site to be a central point for publicizing any events and a place where the public could find out about events. I hope it helps. Keep up the great work, mudflats!
I want to thank Alaskan’s for helping me to find my voice! I thought it had been stomped down forever. You give me hope and courage!
good morning organizer wa !
thanks for the use of your story about your military son during the debates.
it helped me make my point to the not-so-well-informed poster on another site.
tell him, please, that he is heard.
Give her hell, Alaska: you doing a great service for your state AND your COUNTRY! Force the McCain tools out of the state or put ‘em in jail.
Know what I thought about when I heard about O’Callahan’s background? How is taking the nation’s #1 terrorism prosecutor away from THAT duty putting America first?
While you have a head of steam, sweep up the rest of the dishonest Failure Party members and get your state going in the progressive direction.
ok posting my new baby name.
Sounds ominous
Fawnskin Chipdragon Mudpuppy:
You are so welcome! If we inform and change just one mind, we have done our job.
I hope at the very least it gives them food for thought, just as it did for me.
Keep fighting the good fight, Alaskans!
Woo Hoo! This is right on the home page of Daily Kos today.
And — they ticked Obama up another point in their tracking poll – Obama 50 McCain 43
http://www.dailykos.com/
I knew it, another great morning of great pics and now music. I just couldn’t make it through my morning without a quick peek in on all the great Mudflatters. Yes, you folks rock. I’m so encouraged each time I drop by, it’s much better than coffee or booze, it picks me up without the let down later.
Thanks AKM – I wish all politicians would remember what Shannyn Moore said at the rally: “The truth is not partisan.”
You all need to march on the state house. You need to get much more aggressive, in order to get national media attention. Sorry, but what is happening in your state on your watch is the kind of thing people got tarred and feathered for when Americans actually gave a damn. You are not doing enough. Standing on the corner with a sign in your hand will not change a damn thing. You need to show up where these folks are and demand that they leave your state… show up and demand that the legislature holds these people accoutable for circumventing state law. Show up and demand a special session. Demand it.
Question for you bloggers: Given Sarah Palin’s nosedive as of late, is it possible that Alaska may come into play for Obama? Any polls out there?
BREAKING!!!
New group forming: Gamblers for mcCain
Be among the first to join this prestigious group and campaign for mcShame at your local Mega Church or other event near you.
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/09/gamblers-for-mccain.php
I’ll bet we could easily (relatively) get a group of several hundred people to protest in Juneau – I’d be willing to go. Are there any Juneau people here?
A great big hearty thanks Alaskans – from your Canadian neighbours!
WOW——GREAT JOB Alaskans——-This old woman in IOWA is so happy and proud of all of you GREAT people in ALASKA—-wish I could have been there with a sign. THANK you for the GREAT videos—-I will be watching them over and over and over today. I will send them to all my friends.
PLEASE get these videos out to CNN, MSNBC, AC360, Larry King and ooohh just Everyone. —-GOD BLESS each and every one of you–GOd Bless America!!
I pray that you can get your Alaska back and kick out the #$%^$%!!!–
Obama/Biden 2008
Fantastic! Loved the “Sarah the Knife” rendition. Someone has talent and a great satiric wit.
To Proud Community Organizer: thinking of what you wrote, still brings tears. Very powerfully expressed, and hopefully very widely read.
OFF TOPIC:
I just read @ TalkingPointsmemo .com that the McCain people are talking about the “benefit” of having Bristol & Levi get married BEFORE Nov 4th.
“Inside John McCain’s campaign the expectation is growing that there will be a popularity boosting pre-election wedding in Alaska between Bristol Palin, 17, and Levi Johnston, 18, her schoolmate and father of her baby. “It would be fantastic,” said a McCain insider. “You would have every TV camera there. The entire country would be watching. It would shut down the race for a week.”‘
Any thoughts about this?
mainiac-
I can understand mccain et al. trying to SPIN a bristol/levi wedding before the election…but MEDIA there……oh dear, what about all the complaints from them to “leave the children out of it”???? they can’t have it both ways…..and lyndsay lohan’s mother would be FURIOUS!!
I want to thank the Alaskans who came out to demonstrate. Your signs are amazing, and your message is so important. The rest of the US needs to realize that Sarah does not have 100% support of Alaskans. I think her popularity has been spun by McCain’s group to make it seem she’s the most popular governor ever.
On Obama sign live chat someone suggested that we write and complain to networks if they allow a media frenzy to happen.
@Maniac,
I think a Bristol and Levi wedding could play either way. Even some on the right might think that exploiting this poor girl’s situation is tacky. But heck, I can’t begin to read the minds of McCain and his advisers. Slate had a list of the next 10 campaign stunts McCain might pull – this should have been on it.
Thanks, Alaskans.
This http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-cohan/unfit-for-the-presidency_b_129610.html is why Gov. Sarah worries me so much.
From WAPO today … another serious legal problem for Palin related to the mining initiative. Wow … Ms 1 inch deep just can’t help herself when crossed.
…http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/27/AR2008092702834.html?hpid=topnews
SWWNBN is now under investigation for perks!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080928/ap_on_el_pr/palin_ethics
Can anyone tell me when the wedding is?
Horrible. “Leave the kids alone! (unless you need another game changing hail mary) then use the hell out of them… for the moment”.
The Shotgun wedding… such a cool thing to introduce to the public in another series of failed distractions that are the McCain campaign!
This will fall flat on it’s face. Watching two unhappy young teens scared out of their minds, forced into parenthood and marriage by one of our major politcal parties will scare the hell out of voters. Bet on it!
Sunday News Shows –
- McCain on “This Week” seem aggressive and defensive – not presidential at all.
- Obama on “Face the Nation” seemed thoughtful, reasonable, clearheaded. I hope undecideds watched both and saw the contrast.
- Fox News panel seemed to set the bar so low for SP that if she shows up at the debate and pronounces Gwen Ifil’s name right, they’d consider it a victory. Kristol (at least I think it was him, was reading Mudflats at the same time
) complained about the campaign not letting her be herself. Seemed to be getting back to the notion that what she knows is irrelevant, she’s just qualified b/c she has maverick DNA. Should be an interesting debate.
Mainiac- Given the fact that Sarah Houdini is trying every trick in the book to dodge her *tormenters* to the point that it’s become a national joke, an announcement of a shotgun wedding (and the need to choose family first over frivolous national concerns) would hopefully open the eyes of any fencesitters (or die hard repugs for whom a light bulb suddenly get juice). However, I bet the research pollsters are asking those very questions, ya think?
Funny though that I remember a Sonoma-Williams gift registry (fake, I’m assuming ?) for the couple that hit the email circles about a month ago with a wedding date of October 4 so who knows.
there is an interesting post up at “american conservative” magazine, in a blog, “eunomia,” by daniel larson that you all might be interested and reading and passing along to your “conservative” friends and family.
it begins:
“Ross mentioned Palin’s old CNBC and C-SPAN interviews as evidence of what she was capable of when she is discussing subjects she is more familiar with, but what becomes painfully clear on reviewing these is that she has an established set of rote remarks on Alaska, energy production and “hungry domestic markets” that she honed over many years and yet she has nonetheless produced confusing or nonsensical answers in connection with her presumed area of expertise in just the last few weeks. If you watch her interview with Bartiromo, you hear all the same things that you’ve heard over the last few weeks including the apparently incorrect 20% figure she keeps throwing around, and you begin to realize that if you pressed her much on any of these points she would resort to the same bizarre filibustering that she did in the Couric interview. Her apparent fluency and ease in the CNBC interview in particular were the products of her being allowed to speak uninterruptedly about something extremely specific to Alaska along with the relative unfamiliarity of her interviewer with Alaska. The questions were not challenging, and there were no follow-ups demanding elaboration or specificity. ”
go here to read more: http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2008/09/27/a-world-of-hurt-there/
These videos are giving me a bigger warm and fuzzy for Alaska than I’ve ever had before in my life. I like these people! I’m so totally going to have to visit some day.
I remember seeing that Oct 4th date but thought it was a spoof. The article that I read did not have a firm date.
I agree with Disenchanted that it could play very badly with “fencesitters” and diehards.
Could this be the October surprise I keep hearing about?
karen-
interesting article. what I can’t understand is why a lot of reports on Palin always begin with “she is smart”. Being able to SOMEWHAT memorize a list of talking points, and having some skills at looking good while public speaking does NOT show me that she is smart. If she were smart, she should be able to discuss the issues “off the cuff” and that she has failed miserably at. My trained dog can memorize tricks and look good! Doesn’t make her(my dog) smart enough to be VP.
Deb: The reason all the reports start off with something like “she is smart” is because their Mama told them they should always say two nice things before saying something bad. They’re kind of hard-pressed to come up with two nice things, but they do try.
this just in on CNN “mccain retracts Palin statements on Pakistan”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/
I have never been more in love with my former fellow Alaskans than at this very moment. I am deeply moved by your commitment to get the truth out, and you entertained me with the creativity of your signs…I laughed my A** off!!! One of my favorites: “Hey Sarah, I can see the end of your career from my house.”
I keep sending these links to the news bureaus…I hope one day they pick up on how you all feel about your Governor. Keep up the good fight, not only for our country, but for the great state of Alaska!!
shoot….this time/delay on posts here is driving me crazy….
forgive me if this is a re-post, but this just seen on CNN
“McCain retracts Palin’s Pakistan comments”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/
I was moved and inspired by these amazing videos. Sadly, I live in one of the red states that will be rooting for the old guy and the barracuda, but that won’t stop me from screaming my dissent at the top of my lungs! Not only was I inspired by these videos, but I was educated as well. I know very little about Alaska and its politics as do many of the people I know here in the South. So thank you, thank you, thank you for posting these videos! I have great respect for those of you keeping up the good fight. Kudos!!
….this time/delay on posts here is driving me crazy….
forgive me if this is a re-post, but this just seen on CNN
“McCain retracts Palin’s Pakistan comments”
here’s the link-
“McCain retracts Palin’s Pakistan comments”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/28/mccain-retracts-palins-pakistan-comments/
Good Morning Mudpals!
Just stopped by Fox News (a good gauge really) and the interview this morning was about how McCain is coming off snarkey and not “maverick-ish” anymore. The whole ploy about cancelling/not cancelling is not winning him points and he looks weak and will repel undecideds. (paraphrasing here) Bottomline, when Fox starts to rip on him they are in big trouble.
On a light note…every birthday my hubby and I take a trip. We have done Machu Picchu, Paris, Mexico, etc. Well, yesterday afternoon he asked with all sincerity if I wanted to go to Alaska for my birthday this year!! He said “then you could meet some of your friends and show support”. The best part is he’s a Republican for Obama and he really meant it. So I have one question…how’s the weather up there in mid-October?
I took a break from Mudflats to actually try and read the newspapers I pay for that are stacking up. The Sunday Chicago Tribune actually has the entire page 3 on Palin — here is the link
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-palin-wasilla_bdsep28,0,1922879.story
Also in the Trib today – one genuinely thoughtful woman columnist discusses why women “hate” Palin.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-schmich_28_bdsep28,0,4319958.column
Another columnist, Eric Zorn, mentioned a tag for Palin I’d hadn’t heard so far “The Disasta from Alaska”, and has been discussing her on his blog.
And yesterday, our CBS affiliate had an interview with Sarah’s parents at their home – of course saying how wonderful she is.
Deb – no delay on posts – it is just a timeframe where you can edit your post – but it goes up immediately. I know – confusing!
Boston here!
VERY, VERY impressive. I never knew much about Alaska before except that your weather got cold before ours, and that your state was drop dead gorgeous, but I have gained such respect for your courage, your tenacity, your brilliance ( those signs were priceless!) and your willingness to speak up when something is wrong.
Thank you for all you’ve been doing, and we’re busy spreading the word down here.
you alaskans are the shit.
just so you know.
and everytime you protest, i am there in spirit.
obama/biden!
Ha ha ha!
Great videos, Alaskans.
Didn’t realize that Inuits could have so much fun. lol
The opportunist McCaint is worse that bush. And that should scare the ish out of all Americans.
Warmongering McCaint DESERTED his partially incapacitated and OLDER wife, along with his children, in order to ‘marry up’ into money and uncountable mansions, and ‘marry down’ into YOUNGER flesh, Cindy.
Such lying opportunists are without character or honor! No alert Americans would want them as their leader.
RE: the shotgun wedding. You can bet Entertainment Tonight has already negotiated the exclusives. Gag me. They fell for the Tom-Katie wedding and give him a gazillion dollars worth of publicity to revive his reputation stunt. And all the Anna Nicole stuff. So they will be right there, I’m sure. But, IMHO – it would be ridiculous to play up such a wedding. Anyway – Bill Maher is already working on an escape plan for Levi.
mvngfwdNo Gravatar (09:01:16) :
The weather? Cold, sometimes clear…sometimes snow. Hard to say, but can be beautiful. Better than February’s weather, for sure!
You’re welcome to come up any time!
Enough Already @ 6:13
Yes, I saw Sarah’s interview on SNL last night. I was struck by the selfless sacrifice of all those Alaskans who begin each day by searching for Russians, in order to shoo them back to where they belong. Does anyone have any photos of a real live Alaskan “Russian-Shooing” Encounter they would share with us here?
re: DEB 8:58
here is the link for the CNN Ticker on McCain’s retraction of Palin’s Pakistan statement –
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
@ brian and alaskans “shooing” russians! LOL
I’m thinkin the alaskans wish they had tina few as governor!
oops fey not “few”
@PCVirginia Beach
take a step back and look at how negative you sound. for shame. these brave and vocal folks are doing more to stem the tide than anyone else anywhere. please don’t tell them what they “should” be doing according to you.
Go Alaskans! go Obama!!
hose hotrod
I just had a psychic experience — the ghost of Ann Richards came to me and I heard her clearly say: Poor Sarah, she can’t help it, she was born with a $150 wolf paw in her mouth”
Zim from Oz (01:37:47) :
I must admit my ignorance here, I always thought you were on the same time line as Los Angeles.
Off topic, but until they changed the time zones in Alaska to make things like VOTING and banking and things more convenient, Alaska covered FIVE time zones! Our capital city, Juneau, and that LOVELY little leg of the state known to travelers as the “inside passage,” or South East, used to be in the same time zone as LA, but the whole state, except for the Aleutian chain, was consolidated to what is called the “Alaska Time Zone,” while the chain was put into the Hawaiian time zone, one hour earlier for part of the year, and two hours earlier right now. (They don’t do daylight savings time in the Hawaiian time zone.) I can’t remember when this change was decided, but I moved here in 1980, and it was just before or just after we moved here that they changed it. It’s weird for the lighting, but our sunlight is always in flux, and, like so many aspects of Alaska life, more extreme than down south. Where I live used to be two hours earlier than PST, and on out west there were two more time zones! So our votes REALLY were made LONG after the rest of the U.S. in those days! No wonder it didn’t seem to matter sometimes whether we got in and voted! It was often all decided before some of our polls opened! THIS year it matters SO MUCH! I’m STILL hoping we go BLUE in ALASKA (and NOT from the COLD!!)
GObama/Biden08!!
HOPE!
PC-as for the alaskans taking their cause to the capital…..in alaska you cannot just DRIVE to the capital…juneau is not accessible to the rest of the state primarily by water or air
Great pictures of the Obama rally at UMW!
“How many people do you think are going to show up for the political rally? If you guessed 26,000….then you’re right.”
http://fredericksburg.com/News/Web/2008/092008/ObamaPics/index_html
Great jpb Alaskans…you are getting some serious press…It was even reported on the evening news!
I just watched all the rally videos (here and on Kos!) Absolutely phenomenal! Kudos to every Alaskan and especially every Mudflatter who made a very, very powerful statement yesterday about what America REALLY is!
But as I’m watching all of it a very strange thought crossed my mind. Does anyone think perhaps Palin accepted the VP nomination because it was her ticket out of the Troopergate investigation?
It obviously wasn’t because she was qualified or could even seriously believe herself she was qualified to take on this responsibility. I mean seriously.
But the speed that the McCain machine descended on Alaska to try and squash the investigation just makes me believes more and more that was a deal offered to Palin if she took the job.
And the speed in which Palin jumped on the train and turned her back on Alaska makes me believe more and more that this investigation has more on Palin than anyone originally thought or knew. Palin may have grabbed a ride on the McCain no-talk express because she needed a ride out of town – FAST!
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In other news. RIP Paul Newman. What a class act.
It was one of my life’s proudest achievements. More than the films, more than the awards — finding out that I was on Nixon’s Enemies List meant that I was doing something right. Paul Newman
And in 2007
I am proud now to stand with a new generation of Democrats against a president who poses what I believe to be the biggest internal threat to American democracy in my lifetime.
Paul Newman – a great actor, a great philanthropist, a great liberal and a great American and as many of us ‘older’ Mflatters know, one of the original ‘hunks!’.
Mr. Newman – Thank you. You will be missed.
Heh Heh, all McCain has to do now is go on CNN and retract his own statement that Pakistan was a failed state when Mushariff usurped a Democracy!
off topic ….. anyone else experiencing difficulty with getting into the forum. i keep getting a server error.
thanks.
off topic….. is anyone else having difficulty entering the forum? i cannot get back in, replies with a server error?
it’s mccain/rove/cheney i’m sure.
thanks
greta, I’m having trouble here. Page is slow to refresh. Post was eaten.
Maybe AKM is helping us with our addiction?
Obama Biden on MSNBC appearing in Michigan!
Either Mudflaps is getting spammed or hacked or there is just a whole lot of traffic flowing here. I’ve been having a lot of trouble getting on too.
DeMo:
Thanks for the heads up on MSNBC …I’m watching it now!
Bec posted this link to an op ed piece from the Chicago Trib by Mary Schmich. “Tracing Source of Women’s Hate for Palin.”
Here’s a short quote from the piece:
“At its most logical, the hatred many women profess for Palin is rooted in the feeling that she has ascended to power she hasn’t earned and that she could turn that power against the beliefs and best interests of most women.
But the way some women talk about her risks making us look like the very thing she is sometimes accused of being: mean girls.”
Sigh. Men and women can speak viscerally and emotionally about McCain and Obama and Biden. But the minute women respond with outrage to the usurpation of what could be a hugely historic moment for this country, the election of a woman to the Vice Presidency (and potentially, the Presidency), by an embarassingly unqualified, token caricature of a candidate, the ‘mean girl’ stereotype is invoked. And by a woman. Thanks, Mary, for perpetuating one of my least favorite, divisive stereotypes about women.
But look at that first quoted paragraph. If that’s not a good reason to really, really dislike Sarah Palin and what she represents, then what is? Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
I don’t think even SNL can make this stuff up…
McCain told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos of Palin. “In all due respect, people going around and… sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that’s—that’s a person’s position… This is a free country, but I don’t think most Americans think that that’s a definitve policy statement made by Governor Palin.”
I think what he was really meant to say was… “Good grief George. You and I both know the stupid broad doesn’t have a clue what she is talking about! Quit asking her questions and most of all quit listening to her answers!”
Yes, I had a problem. Several people on the SignWatch can’t get in now. I seem to be in now. Odd problem. Something about Database Error.
OMG.. thank you for figuring out the issue…. I was having DT’s like you never saw!!! ( I know it’s bad grammar)
I must confess… I come here for “news” now. The truth is here. And apparently everyone knows it now!
thank you mudflats.
Great pictures and wonderful signs. What a fantastic cross-section of the people, all ages, and all smiling.
Thanks, AKM.
Woohoo! Way to go AKM and Alaskans!!! An AP photo (no story beyond the caption!) of yesterday’s rally appears in our local paper this morning. The photo was of the chickens, a few of the signs and the caption names of two of the participants. No wide shot or mention of the size of the rally, but to have any mention of it here at all is nothing short of astounding.
Our local paper is strongly right-leaning. Ann Coulter is the most favored (and most hated) columnist, and some of the locals think George Will is a liberal. I’ve noticed that the paper has not had an op-ed page several times this week. So locals that don’t read other sources haven’t seen many of the recent conservative columnists questioning McCain’s choice of Palin. Despite all that, there’s the photo, right on the front of the “Second Front” section, where all the national and international news is covered.
As I’ve mentioned before, Bush/Cheney ’04 signs were EVERYWHERE last time, and I’ve only seen one McCain sign this year. During the primaries, Ron Paul yard signs and street corner demos were in evidence.
Next Rally/Protest
Would be great to hold it on Alaska Day, October 18th – it’s a Saturday this year, too!!
Maybe something could be done in Sitka, too.
FYI “Outsiders” – Alaska Day is the day that Alaska changed hands from Russia to the U.S. It’s a state holiday (which will be Friday this year), that’s how proud Alaska is to recognize its history!
The key words from Shannyn Moore’s comments:
“THE TRUTH IS NOT PARTISAN”
And amongst all the signs I saw in AKM’s pics and the videos was one for evangelicals *against* Palin. That was encouraging, too.
A *wonderful* collection from the rally .. thanks AKM!!
I’m having problems with Website, too. I wonder if all the new photos that were posted overloaded it for a bit.
Wired — I was disappointed in Mary’s take on Palin “hatred” too. I actually thought the first Tina Fey skit on SNL illustrated the “unearned” aspect of the VP slot in vibrant imagery — just seeing the quivering expression on Amy/Hillary’s face said it all. McCain handed the honor of a female VP candidate to one of the most undeserving people imaginable. And in her narcissistic spunk – Palin jumped at it. So there is a feeling of hatred here – yes – but maybe directed more at McCain, and all the Repugs who immediately started singing her praises and still put up their phoney mantra when interviewed on TV.
The one caveat to this is — we know Palin must be ready to explode from being yanked from her home and comfort zone these past few weeks, holed up in a hotel rooms, traveling all over the place, and bombarded with policies, 101 lessons, and being muzzled. I’m thinking an implosion is near.
Do we “hate” Palin? I think really – we HATE being insulted like this.
Rally coverage at Michael Moore’s stie!!!!
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=12311
This is an article that ran in today’s Anchorage Daily News. It is written by Andrew Halcro who debated Sarah Palin many times in his quest for the gubernatorial nomination. Bottom line: do not underestimate Palin’s “stage presence”.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/539459.html
The http://www.adn.com website also has more photos and videos of the rally yesterday (if you can’t get enough) –
AKM – Great coverage and story! You are AWESOME!
Great – now I have the tune to “Mac the Knife” running through my head. That was very clever!
Bec– I agree. I *do* hate being insulted by the McCain campaign.
And as an American (with or without ovaries) I hate being insulted by Bush, Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rice, the whole damn lot of them.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Sarah in the next week. If the people who say she’s a narcissist are right, she’ll just keep slugging away and not even realize what a fool she is. I imagine McCain aides have already slapped her a number of times for her gaffes, but after all, she’s on a mission from god, so those are just satan’s tests. And if she does implode, well, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but she brought it on herself. What craziness.
I couldn’t understand the picture of the McCain Palin Buttons.
Until…. I went to another site one of you guys posted and realized they were condoms with McCain Palin Stickers
Love your Alaskan humor
Time Magazine, Sept. 22 issue, just arrived in Alaska. The headline on the story featuring Sarah Palin announced boldly: “The Sarah Show: A front-row view of Sarah Palin’s campaign debut reveals why her grip on women voters is likely to last.” The story went on to expound her image as put forth by the Republican Convention.
So, Mudpuppies, I think it’s time for Time to get a letter bomb from Mudpuppies. Please join me in writing (E-mail) to letters@time.com with women’s comments to Palin and such superficial reporting by Time. The author of the article was Michael Scherer.
Stop now, write an E-mail to Time Magazine: letters@time.com
“Sarah the Knife”
Oh that Sarah has pretty teeth dear
And she shows them pearly white
When she stands next to McCain now
Well he fades almost out of sight
Randy Ruedrich.. is corruption
With a soul as dark as lead
Andrew Halcro fell by the wayside.
But she didn’t she didn’t quite kill them dead
Some like women, but she is one,
Some like money, but Sarah don’t care
Oh but power, and control babe…
Blind ambition; Sarah’s there.
A barracuda, and a geezer
Who would ever see those two in bed..
Blind ambition, its like Vi-agra
Careful Careful someone’s gonna wind up dead
All those bodies by the wayside
Randy, Andy, Tony Don and Ted
Ya better win that big election
Cause you didn’t didn’t quite kill them dead
Talis Colberg disappeared now.
Off to Kansas like a rat he fled
He’ll face disbarment but won’t cross Sarah
Under the bus boy..your career is dead.
Lyda Green, yeah Trooper Wooten
Hollis French now and the list goes on
Ya better win that big election…
Or don’t ever ever come back to town..
Don’t come back Sarah…
Damn she’ll look good in stripes
I am feeling really positive this morning. I spoke with friends who a year ago where buying into all the nasty spin about Barack Obama. And of course they would never vote for him because of his race. I have been trying to gently counsel them on the error of their ways, but did not sense they would really change their opinions.
Well today all that has changed. Not only are they now registered democrats, they are voting for Obama/Biden. YAY!
I cannot help but wonder how many more people there are out there that have done the same turn around.
Hope…it’s a good thing.
More photos here http://www.northernvisions.smugmug.com/gallery/6083679_8Emun#381797613_Y8QKH
feel free to post these with the video or anywhere else!
â??Sarah the Knifeâ??
Oh that Sarah has pretty teeth dear
And she shows them pearly white
When she stands next to McCain now
Well he fades almost out of sight
Randy Ruedrich.. is corruption
With a soul as dark as lead
Andrew Halcro fell by the wayside.
But she didnâ??t she didnâ??t quite kill them dead
Some like women, but she is one,
Some like money, but Sarah donâ??t care
Oh but power, and control babeâ?¦
Blind ambition; Sarahâ??s there.
A barracuda, and a geezer
Who would ever see those two in bed..
Blind ambition, its like Viagra
Careful Careful someoneâ??s gonna wind up dead
All those bodies by the wayside
Randy, Andy, Tony Don and Ted
Ya better win that big election
Cause you didnâ??t didnâ??t quite kill them dead
Talis Colberg disappeared now.
Off to Kansas like a rat he fled
Heâ??ll face disbarment but wonâ??t cross Sarah
Under the bus boy..your career is dead.
Lyda Green, yeah Trooper Wooten
Hollis French now and the list goes on
Ya better win that big electionâ?¦
Or donâ??t ever ever come back to town..
Donâ??t come back Sarahâ?¦
Damn sheâ??ll look good in stripes
My letter to Time Magazine. Please write yours to: letters@time.com
The Sept. 22 issue just arrived in Alaska and I’m wondering what corner of the planet Time’s superficial reporting on Sarah Palin is coming from? I wish Palin were “the reformer” she purports to be. Time’s irresponsible reporting on this candidate is about as reckless as John McCain’s selection of her for V.P. I believe you’ll be hearing from women on this one.
The Obama/Biden team represents stabilization of the economy, a smarter and more diverse energy policy, and honesty and ethics in government. That’s what women want!
good job Alaskans! watching with admiration from Honolulu…..
**Sorry if this has already been posted.
**Must See Video interviews of (2) Veterans supporting Obama
Despite Rain, 26,000 Virginians Show Up For Obama-Biden Rally
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/despite-rain-26000-virgin_n_129981.html
McCain is now making retractions for Palin.
Never a dull moment… :~)
McCain Says: Palin’s Conversations Not Indicative of Her Positions
well, the Time magazine cover got me riled.
i sent off an immediate email:
“How can any reputable magazine possibly tout the likes of Sarah Palin as someone who has a grip on women voters.
Palin has shown to be as ignorant of women’s issues as she is clueless to international affairs. Her tenure as both a local small town politician and that as a short term governor has been rife with scandal and vindictive politics.
I guess if you substitute “grip” with “vise” or, better yet, “vice”, your portrayal of Palin would be more accurate.
Do the women voters of this country a service with a follow-up cover of the truth of the Palin story.”
Margaret Atwood is a goddess! Check this link about her current writing, which involves, presciently enough, debt, ‘The Handmaid’s Tale,’ and Sarah Palin. She is brilliant!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/magazine/28WWLN-Q4-t.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=margaret%20atwood&st=cse&oref=slogin
I have not seen Time…I grew up reading it but haven’t found it to be relevant for a while now. Unfortunately, many people do read it. Talk about parallel universes…all the more important for the blogosphere to exist.
Got dumped into the spam…check this brilliant article by Margaret Atwood in today’s NYT…
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/magazine/28WWLN-Q4-t.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=margaret%20atwood&st=cse&oref=slogin
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK HOLDING PALIN’S FEET TO THE FIRE –
GREAT COVERAGE – YOU ALL INSPIRE ME.
I simply loved it when John McCain, during the section of the debate when Obama pinned him about his comments concerning the leader of Spain, uttered “HORSESHIT” two times. Something he obviously recognizes so well by the tremendous amount of “crap” flying out of his campaign.
Keep up the bitterness McShame – you’re showing your true nasty self.
OBAMA / BIDEN ’08
Marti and any other Juneau people: I started a thread in the Forum to discuss possibilities. We can’t leave it all to Anchorage, right? Thread is in the Alaskan Lodge, here:
http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,1323.0.html
@Enough Already re: trip to AK
Yay! You’re braving the cold to come to AK! Have to say that there’s really no great time to come here after September, so come prepared for snow & cold. Of course NY gets that too, so shouldn’t be a huge deal. It starts getting bitterly cold in Dec, so if you can come in November you’ll enjoy it more. I think you will deserve a break after the election is over! The Sheraton is fine, good location to see things. Make sure that you touch base with the local mudflatters so that we can all raise a toast to Obama’s election as pres of the US!!!!
Congratulations on your rally! I especially enjoyed the creative videos, posters and enthusiasm. America needs more activism like this, on local, state and the federal level. It would be great to have more National coverage of what is going on in Alaska concerning Palin. Just an idea: sara Silverman just did a great, and very funny youtube video on “the great schlep” to rally young jewish voters to get their grandparents to vote for Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgHHX9R4Qtk
Perhaps someone could convince her to do a funny video bringing to light your issues with Palin and what an irresponsible choice she was for a VP to a 72 yo who claims to put “country first”.
AWESOME Nana and Fawn! You both have a way with words! Well done!
Brilliant interview with Margaret Atwood, check it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/magazine/28WWLN-Q4-t.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=margaret%20atwood&st=cse&oref=slogin
this is a must read. Got it from a friend in Cali that is on the same page as us.
Thank you Blondie
http://kimeleon.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/a-womans-worth-goldie-taylor/
Wow, this is great. I love the ‘Sarah the Knife”. We are so creative.
Can anyone tell me where to find the link to the discussoin panel of
former Secretary of States? I can’t seem to find it.
thanks
OOOOOOh that Times magazine thing has me ticked off!
Here’s my letter that I sent off:
I would think that you, as one of the preeminent voices of the mainstream media, would be in a position to know that following the initial euphoria post-RNC Ms. Palin’s appeal is not worthy of the cover of your magazine. To report her appeal is nothing more than pandering to McCain’s sound-bite campaign.
I am a born & raised Alaskan who has lived here for 35 of my 40 years. I was formerly registered Republican, but am voting Democrat for the first time since I have been able to vote. My husband, who remains a registered Republican, intended to vote for McCain until Palin was added to the ticket. He will now vote for Obama. He & I share the fiscally conservative views of Republicans, but have become disenchanted with their evangelical radicalism and war-mongering over the course of Bush’s tenure in the White House.
Let me be perfectly clear: intelligent & informed women voters are not in the grip of Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin represents all that is counter to the rights of women throughout America. Women voters who vote on evangelical beliefs before the economy, military & diplomacy are not putting their country first, and those are the voters in Ms. Palin’s thrall.
The smoke & mirrors game that McCain is playing with Ms. Palin’s flock is a disservice to America. This is not about Obama, everyone deserves to have a vote for whomever they choose; rather this is about the fact that your magazine has chosen to perpetuate this sham. Your credibility is lost. I will never buy your magazine again, even if your cover states that you have the key to everlasting youth, to unlimited riches, to the solution of this unending & pointless war — your story about Sarah Palin is certain to be as credible as any that you might write about those issues.
Sorry, a little off topic but
I was reading the article on the Huffington Post -*McCain Camp Can’t Get Story Straight on Bailout*- when a quote from Johnny Mac jumped out at me.
“…but I’m never going to not get engaged when the taxpayers and middle class of America are in danger of losing everything…”
Since when are the TAXPAYERS and MIDDLE CLASS of AMERICA separate groups???
MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA- new buzz word (since he failed to knowledge them during the debate)?
Great answer!!!!
After reading my opinion column in the Anchorage Daily News this morning, fellow Alaskan blogger Tom Lamb, asks “Why is it that Andrew Halcro who is so critical of Palin, wanted to be on the same ticket with her.”
That’s an easy answer; because I believed Sarah Palin had the qualifications to be a terrific Lt. Governor. And watching her struggle to give coherent answers on the national stage, I believe more today than ever before she has the qualifications to be a terrific Lt. Governor.
I think it might be helpful for us Non-Alaskans to help get the word out about what’s going on up there. I read my local papers (Ft. Laud. Sun-Sentinel and Miami Herald) and there’s barely a blip. Granted, there’s a lot going on. But the responses on the blog posts are STILL saying Palin’s got such a high approval rating. At least we can help dispel that myth. And they are not even talking about Troopergate. I haven’t seen the issue raised by anyone lately. The Anti-Palin posts tend to focus on her disastrous showings on the interviews, but as we have seen, some people can see and hear the exact same thing we do, and they see “she held her own” while we see “complete disaster”.
Ignoring subpoenas, though, and encouraging people to do so, that’s bad. So is the McCain campaign apparently not ALLOWING Palin to speak for herself about the matter (Are the Vegas bookies taking bets on when her book deal is signed and for how much?).
If you haven’t already, take this info to your local blogs. Let everyone know the people of Alaska do not have such a favorable rating of their governor and why. The pictures and videos from the rallies are great resources for that.
However, I have one suggestion – when linking to videos, I suggest you use the link straight from YouTube, if available, rather than the mudflats link. Not that I’m so worried that would lead to us being inundated with trolls – I think we know how to handle that – but because if people read the comments here, they might dismiss what they’ve seen or read because the source was “biased”, e.g., “Oh, those mudflatters, there just all biased against her”, whereas the YouTube forum I think provides a little more universality.
We’ve just had a short 15 minutes of analysis of the first debate (on a Swedish current affairs programme). Swedish conclusions: McCain’s body language took things too far; Obama won on most points; Obama was the most presidential and appeared most suitable to be Commander in Chief; Obama is the candidate who is looking ahead and looking for change…
…and the commentators couldn’t keep their smirks under wraps when Palin was mentioned (leading in to next week’s debate).
I do worry about underestimating her though. Halcro’s piece on twinkle vs facts is veeeery interesting.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/539459.html
A must read:
McCain camp prays for Palin wedding
The marriage of the vice-presidential candidate’s pregnant teenage daughter could lift a flagging campaign
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4837644.ece
O I am so obsessed!
What an amazing event .. what an amazing time.
Will justice prevail and is there hope to believe?
My letter to Time:
“Dear Folks of the Lower 48
I am an Alaskan woman, I am a commercial fisherman, I am the mother of two and a grandmother, I can dress a moose, shoot a gun, I wear lipstick even when I’m fishing, I’ve had a passport for well over 30 years and still have the curiosity to travel the world.
I do not believe in drilling the Arctic reserve, I believe in conservation and management of resources. I do not believe in aerial hunting and I do not believe in leasing our lands to foreign investors to rape our region and foul our waters.
I did not vote for Sarah as Governor and most of the folks, that I know, that did .. did so because there was no other choice.
I and many other Alaskan women and men will be calling for her impeachment due to her blatant lies and irresponsible actions.
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time. …”
By your irresponsible article “The Sarah Show” .. you promote the illusion and encourage those who know no better, or are not savvy to truth, to be swayed into believing another invention of Sarah’s mind.”
Thank you thank you thank-you Mudflats and all!
thanks for the videos…!
good way to kick off the week! Intrade odds standing as of Sept. 28th:
Obama – 58.5%
McSame – 40.8% (trended downwards this past week)
http://www.intrade.com/promo/Affiliates/sites/realclearpolitics.com/quoteBoard.jsp?id=409933&id=376101
What is intrade?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrade
Political contracts
Tradesports has offered a number of markets for political events, such as “George W. Bush to win 2004 US Presidential Election.”
In the 2004 presidential election, the market favorite won the electoral vote in every state. This occurred when, even as late as election day, many pollsters and analysts were predicting a John Kerry victory. In Florida, a number of polls put Kerry ahead in that state, or said the race was too close to call. The betting markets, however, correctly and consistently showed Bush would win Florida comfortably.[4]
good way to kick off the week! Intrade odds standing as of Sept. 28th. :
Obama – 58.5%
McSame – 40.8% (trended downwards this past week)
Faux News and many of John’s surrogates will be in hyperdrive for the upcoming week. It will be exciting to see what distractions and broadstroke virtuous outrage we will be treated to.
http://www.intrade.com/promo/Affiliates/sites/realclearpolitics.com/quoteBoard.jsp?id=409933&id=376101
What is intrade?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrade
Political contracts
Tradesports has offered a number of markets for political events, such as “George W. Bush to win 2004 US Presidential Election.”
In the 2004 presidential election, the market favorite won the electoral vote in every state. This occurred when, even as late as election day, many pollsters and analysts were predicting a John Kerry victory. In Florida, a number of polls put Kerry ahead in that state, or said the race was too close to call. The betting markets, however, correctly and consistently showed Bush would win Florida comfortably.
Wow those videos are awesome. LOL
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijvcK8P0ztXwMgir7NnkIy4rcI0AD93FQIA81
Sounds like Palin took some pointers from Uncle Ted…
Visibility is huge!
Get it out there, Alaskans. Solidarity of souls. You will need your friends and will need people to know you are there, good work!
If, as is looking increasingly possible, Obama and Biden are elected and Palin returns to Alaska as governor-what will happen to Alaska?
One scary possibility is that there will be a surge of the rabid Palin supporters who have sprung up around the country towards Alaska, as a refuge. A kind of self-fulfilling end days stampede. I think certain players might encourage that. At the very least, she will potentially have a huge new pool of outside supporters and money and power to draw on. What kind of threat she could pose to democracy in Alaska remains to be seen. Could it turn out that the rest of the country goes modern and democratic and Alaska turns into a refuge state for every damaging thing that Palin supporters hold dear?
A Palin neofascist dictatorship grips hold of Alaska? The oposition to an Obama administration finds its holdfast in Alaska?
Forgive my concern. The best defence against that danger is to network and build solidarity among Alaskans as well as gain visibility and sympathy nationwide. Which is exactly what Mudflats is doing. Keep up the good work! And for the rest of us outside Alaska-we can’t let ourselves lose touch with Alaskans when this election is over. Sarah is going to be centered in Alaska again, but this time with a hornet’s nest of bitter, defeated supporters from all over the country potentially at her service. Alaskans will need our concern and support. This is no silly battle, this is the real “struggle for survival”.
I so hope Alaska can hold on to the sane and human ties binding neighbor to neighbor that make community life the blessed gift it is, that overcomes maddness and works for the good things possible in life for everyone.
Humor,light, warmth in a cold winter and truth are great battledress.
Love you all,
Mean it.
Riverside
good way to kick off the week! Intrade odds standing as of Sept. 28th. :
Obama – 58.5%
McSame – 40.8% (trended downwards this past week)
Faux News and many of John’s surrogates will be in hyperdrive for the week. It will be exciting to see what distractions and broadstroke virtuous outrage we will be treated to.
http://www.intrade.com/promo/Affiliates/sites/realclearpolitics.com/quoteBoard.jsp?id=409933&id=376101
What is intrade?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrade
Political contracts
Tradesports has offered a number of markets for political events, such as “George W. Bush to win 2004 US Presidential Election.”
In the 2004 presidential election, the market favorite won the electoral vote in every state. This occurred when, even as late as election day, many pollsters and analysts were predicting a John Kerry victory. In Florida, a number of polls put Kerry ahead in that state, or said the race was too close to call. The betting markets, however, correctly and consistently showed Bush would win Florida comfortably
Riverside, you make very valid, and scary, points. What will happen when she goes back? She has burned bridges there. No pun intended. She has awoken a zeal in Alaskans that will not easily be quashed. And thank God for that.
Stay strong, fellow Americans of the North. You will need every ounce of fortitude you can muster. Move forward and take your state back. Democracy is alive and well. Thanks for showing us the power of a few.
SMR
Although I am no cold weather fan I am very used to it. Spent several winters in Norway and Korea sleeping in a tent. (cold weather training)
I am planning a Thurs to Sunday trip pre-election that I’m hoping will coincide with another rally or event. I need to get it planned soon so I can slip the dates in while the boss is busy watching the stock market. The weekend before the election is out since there will be last preps in organizing muti-state poll watchers with my Dem Club and I will be working that long busy day Nov 4 in my local precinct. My window is closing and I know I will regret not supporting in person the people of Alaska that I have come to love, admire and respect so very, very much during these trying times.
I don’t trust paypal, I want to put money in hands and help in any other way I can.
My letter to Time:
Just curious, how much did the McCain camp pay you to write such one-sided, poorly researched, drivel?
“Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views beyond the comprehension of the weak; and that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.” John Quincy Adams
Sarah Palin: The Movie
Check it out!
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1831461
Riverside (12:31:51) :
You spoke to my heart! I’m all bleary eyed now, but empowered and determined. We do love you Alaska and we mean it.
This is the best laugh today courtesy of Huffpost
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/new-hampshire-newspaper-g_n_130047.html
omg, I laughed out loud at this stupidity.
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1829935
Just noticed an AP story outlining Sarah’s ethics-challenged shenanigans as mayor:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080928/ap_on_el_pr/palin_ethics_2
LOL Andrew! Good answer!
Can you believe this? The HuffPost story was good, but within the comment section was this little bit about McCain’s commenting army of trolls. Wow, blows my mind. That has the stench of desperation wafting around it…
…http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx
What, McLame & Failin can’t get their views out through INTERVIEWS and DEBATES and ADVERTISING, so they have to send out their thugs online now!!!!!!!!!!! Citizens of the US we need an internet revolt!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate this so much that I am putting the link here again!
…http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx
FAN-freaking-TASTIC! Go Alaska go!!
Link not working to trolls story, suggest go to Huffpost story and scroll down.
They have been doing this for ages, disgusting and pathetic.
A Nana from AlaskaNo Gravatar (10:52:30) :
I just emailed. Thanks for the tip!
Portland Oregon Native (10:53:39)
That is fantastic about your friends switching over to Obama. I’m sure your earlier proddings helped, but it must have all added up to them in the end. Music to our ears. Lets hope it is happening with many many people, all across the country,
WEAK STATE!
I thought about it for a while… and tried to think of other states in our union that would lie down for this kind of attack on local authority… I could not think of many… if any really. Alaska seems weak to me. A weak minded state full of weak minded people…
Think for one second.. could have happened in Vemont or Texas? Nope. Maine- Nope. Alaska is as weak as Florida.. must be full of transient people with no real pride for their local autonomy! Ripe for manipulation!!
Not to worry, the next multi million dollar gov handout is right around the corner for you folks up north!
Like I said- WEAK!
To cheer you up though – check out the prices on this site, McShameless tanking ……
http://www.intrade.com/
You might have already seen the Haley videos. Here is the link for your enlightenment….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x3ymY7YcdE&feature=related
RE: SMR –
This support of trolling is unbelievable. I guess I’m just naive, but I had no idea that a campaign would endorse this – here is the beginning of the site.
“Tell The Web
Help spread the word about John McCain on news and blog sites. Your efforts to help get the message out about John McCain’s policies and plan for the future is one of the most valuable things you can do for this campaign. You know why John McCain should be the next President of the United States and we need you to tell others why.
Select from the numerous web, blog and news sites listed here, go there, and make your opinions supporting John McCain known. Once you’ve commented on a post, video or news story, report the details of your comment by clicking the button below. After your comments are verified, you will be awarded points through the McCain Online Action Center.”
http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx
Perhaps someone more internet savy than I am would like to send a few posted comments to their online action center.
(I don’t know how to disguise my address and identity sufficiently to keep their thugs from retaliating somehow – I feel paranoid, but….)
Re: McCain’s call to post on blogs… Look at the number of liberal and moderate blogs (total of 9) compared to the multitude of conservative ones he wants people to post to. Even combined with the 14 he lists as “other,” there are far more conservative ones listed.
Does that mean he’s actually worried about holding the GOP together???? I would have expected a huge list of moderate blogs to inundate. The libs aren’t going to vote for him anyway, and the conservatives don’t have anywhere else to go — except for Barr or to write-in Paul. I think it’s a sign of how desperate he really is.
SNL Palin Skit
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/couric-palin-open/704042/?dst=nbc|widget|NBC%20Video&__source=nbc|widget|NBC%20Video
Kerry on Obama & McCain on the fiscal crisis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH5R1s5_w5E
PCVIRGINIABEACHNo Gravatar (13:55:07) :
I hope you got lots of “McCain points” for that post. Go cash it in for a t-shirt and leave us alone, will ya?
today’s latest polls both Gallup and Rasmussen have Obama at 50 to McCain’s 42 and 44 respectively
Yes, we CAN!!!
(sigh) I know, I hate it when I do this “off topic thing”, but have you taken a look at the national debt clock lately?
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Each and every one of us owes $32,335.35. ( as of this moment) For my husband and me, that’s way more than our meager retirement income annually.
I was looking for the debt clock that moves as you watch, but I got an eyeopener when I stopped at this one. I wonder how much it will jump when Congress signs the bailout bill tonight? (peeking through fingers!)
Question” So if hubby and I do not live long enough to pay off our (increasing) I.O.U–and many “Baby Boomers” won’t–who do you think gets to pay it off?
PCVIRGINIABEACH
You said Alaska was weak? That this could not happen in Texas or wherever else you mentioned. What in the #$%@ do you think this nation has been doing for 8 years. Bush lied about WMD and took us to war. What did we do? What about the outing of Valerie Plaime(sp?)…what did we do? What about holding prisoners in Guantanamo? What did we do? Torture….we did nothing. Those are things that have just come to mind this minute…There are many, many more. We lived with these thugs for 8 years and have done nothing. Then there’s Alberto Gonzalez. I guess he has already retired in Texas. Don’t get me wrong, I love the great state of Texas but don’t call Alaska or any other state that has been temporarily overrun by thugs weak. They will probably get justice before we as a nation does on the above mentioned crimes.
Go Obama
GO MUDFLATTERS!!!!
I am soooo impressed by your rally & the handmade signs are great. It’s good to know that the First Amendment is still alive & well in Alaska.
No doubt Americans all over the country are heartened by your determination to step up & make your voices heard. We are all hangin’ in there with you.
I may be in California, but I can see the Palin impeachment hearings from my house. Hmmmmm…….
Best Regards, Karen in California
Well I have just returned home for our local Democrats Election office with my new Obama/Biden sign. I have been waiting for 3 days to get it.
Hehehehehe It is 4 ft by 8 ft and will sit in a prime spot in our back 4 acres right by a state route for this area!
You guys have gotten me all fired up!
As my friend and I were unloading out of the back of her truck people were honking and waving like mad fools as they drove by my house!
Tomorrow it goes up and I am so excited!
On the john mccain website there is the following disclaimer at the bottom of each page:
“Military Images and Information Do Not Imply Endorsement by DoD or Service Branch”!!!
So, the military doesn’t support what McCain put on his website? (wait, isn’t McCain having a website an oxymoron of sorts??)
Cassie Jeep Pike (newly a Trout, too!) (14:24:46) :
(sigh) I know, I hate it when I do this “off topic thing”, but have you taken a look at the national debt clock lately?
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Cassie – feel free to go off topic any time…:)
Like OMG, like Haley is so funny!
I heard you Alaskans down here in Kansas! My husband said, “2000 people? Isn’t that about 10% of Anchorage?” I said I had no idea, but since the whole state is less than 700,000, probably.
My fantasy is that Obama-Biden win, and Sarah is forced to go back to Alaska to deal with the ethics violation. And although I know Bristol is off limits, I would add to my fantasy that the black kid who is claiming to be Bristol’s baby’s father is and Jesse is off the hook. Can’t hide bi-racial, Sarah…then what? Are you going to call your own flesh and blood a “Sambo”?
Chin Trout Palin (NJ)No Gravatar (15:21:03) :
(wait, isn’t McCain having a website an oxymoron of sorts??)
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ah, yup…I think so! But he has many young R-thugs in his employ.
You know the type, we called them jock sniffers, in the day
Was just wondering if any of you Alaskans can confirm or deny the Salon article at
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/09/26/trade_missions/index.html
which is interesting in two respects:
* the author was not able to find any support for Palin’s claim that she was involved in “trade missions back and forth” with Russia. A commentator mentions that there is an Alaskan Office of International Trade and that there have been Russian political visits, but nothing directly supporting her claim of involvement in a trade mission.
* when the author asked Palin’s spokeperson Kate Morgan for examples of Russian trade missions, Morgan replied that she could not “legally discuss any trade missions” because of a “stringent” state law prohibiting state employees from discussing matters that the questioner learned about “in the context of the campaign.”
Not hard to believe to Palin embellished her “trade mission” credentials, but very hard to believe that there is a law prohibiting discussion of official state business, even if learned “in the context of a campaign.”
Is there anyone who knows the actual facts on both of these points?
Oh…here’s the “real time” National Debt clock. It’s like watching the Ball drop in Times Square on New Year’s Eve
http://www.babylontoday.com/national_debt_clock.htm
Only this one implodes when the signatures go on the bailout bill!
Truly, I didn’t spam—it was only the real time National Debt clock!
Sorry if I tilted something, AKM
UK Lady wrote:
This is the best laugh today courtesy of Huffpost
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/new-hampshire-newspaper-g_n_130047.html
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Hey, that’s my hometown newspaper! And I have a friend who’s a reporter there. This is a fine example of why Judd Gregg has referred to us as Eastern Vermont before. But the rest of the state is turning too.
Anyone coming to leaf peek, just wear your Obama buttons, smile a lot, and hold doors open for folks. Subtle works best here. Because of the craziness during the primaries the in-your-face of phone calls and even door to door can be counter productive, but the gentle message of good manners (and humor) does well.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
I see that McCain is retracting the invasion of Pakistan and sending someone off to debate camp in Arizona. Can’t be left wandering around unattended apparently.
GreenCajun – that response from Palin’s Kate Morgan (not the “adult movie” star is it??) about not replying to anything learned on the campaign trail — are you kidding me?
I actually posted something on this last night – I think on the other thread. I’ll go look for it.
@ Cassie,
Actually, the national debt clock will only go up about $2300. Sort of gives you a real perspective of the actual size of the total debt if $700,000,000,000 can be added to the total debt and have each person’s share only rise by $2300!
I don’t mean to minimize the per person share of the bailout, but let’s keep it in perspective. For everybody who’s living off their retirement funds or trying to build a 401(k) or an IRA or even a college fund for their kids, take a look at what’s happened to that over the last several months. To do nothing would very likely plunge us (and the rest of world) into a depression — and I’m not talking about a Phil Gramm style mental one.
The other thing to keep in mind is that the total cost will almost certainly be far less than $700 billion. Some economists are even going so far as to predict it will be a net gain to the Treasury. I don’t buy that — at least not yet. But the loan to AIG may already be showing a positive return on investment. As it’s now structured, the bailout is more like capital investment, not just a money sink.
And just maybe, we might just turn the corner on the greed and excesses that got us here. I posted a couple of thoughts today on my blog to add to the discussion.
http://morelightthanheat.wordpress.com
At least Time Magazine nailed the truth about Sarah’s record on Alaska’s economics in this piece:
http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1839724,00.html
The piece about her debate skills has me concerned. http://www.adn.com/opinion/story/539459.html
I can only hope that Gwen Ifill won’t tolerate non-answers. Maybe the format is a mere 2 minute answer, but a few seconds is enough time for Sarah to reveal herself. At least, that’s what I’m hoping.
New thread about the Palin shotgun wedding. I’m over there talking to myself!
Alaskan Animals for Obama!
http://www.cafepress.com/socaltees/5773082
Palmdale aka Moose Roadster PalinNo Gravatar (16:08:50) :
I am familiar with the economics of all this, but I do not trust that the greed will disappear from the money managers, or the “firms left standing”.
My major concern is this: I have felt for a long time that the “real polls” (see previous postings” are not the ones reported by the MSM. I’ve been trained to follow the money.
In my meager experience, this entire 7 months represents a lining-up-at-the-trough. Line up and get yours before an administrative change.
“The money” indicates to me an insistent poll that the United States is going to vote for Obama.
That said, if you want yours, get it now.
But, again, who is lobbying for us? Where do “we, the people” get in line?
And, coincidentally, if these government welfare “emergencies” continue, how can we fund needed programs in a new administration if the cupboard is bare?
Typically, the neocons foul the nest…our nest…and effectively hamstring an Obama administration.
My 2 cents.
Somewhere on this site earlier today I read a warning about the practice of ” caging” a new term to me and apparently a scam to disenfranchise voters. I did some google research & find it is a cause for real concern. Please go to the link included here & link spread it on to others. Forewarned is forearmed. Hard to believe the “dirty tricks” of a legitimate party in a “democratic country”. I also understand the “Michigan Messanger” had a report about Obama Campaign suing the Michigan GOP” in August this year to stop their “caging” attempts to block some Michigan voters. I am sorry I do not have the link to their site.
Pray with the little people’s ( grassroots’)interventions democracy will prevail.
http://outtheotherear.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/at-it-againvote-caging/
Somewhere on this site earlier today I read a warning about the practice of “caging”, a new term to me and apparently a scam to disenfranchise voters. I did some google research & find it is a cause for real concern. Please read about it at the link included here & spread it on to others. Forewarned is forearmed. Hard to believe the “dirty tricks” of a legitimate party in a “democratic country”.
I also understand the “Michigan Messenger” had a report about the Obama Campaign suing the Michigan GOP” in August this year to stop their “caging” attempts to block some Michigan voters. I am sorry I do not have the link to their site.
Pray with the little people’s ( grassroots’)interventions true democracy will prevail.
http://outtheotherear.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/at-it-againvote-caging/
Re: Alaska Trade Missions w/Russia
Heard yesterday at the rally something that relates to that. This person said that MsP had had opportunities to participate in those sorts of forums here in AK while gov, but had not participated in ANY of them. Apparently whenever/wherever it was that she met the Pres of Iceland did not impress her enough to remember that she had done so…
Bwhahahahahaaha! You had some feds come in and take control of your state Gov about a month ago without any cause or legal right, and you all walk around with some signs! Bwhahahaha.
Alaska is a joke.
“VERY, VERY impressive. I never knew much about Alaska before except that your weather got cold before ours, and that your state was drop dead gorgeous, but I have gained such respect for your courage, your tenacity, your brilliance ( those signs were priceless!) and your willingness to speak up when something is wrong.”
Thank you for all you’ve been doing, and we’re busy spreading the word down here… Form proud2ba mud puppy in Boston.
Proud2b- How long would a crew from Washington last taking over the state house on beacon hill? Oh that’s right…. less than half a second! Nice signs though… Alaska is a joke!
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A Brit abroad aka Flag CobraNo Gravatar (02:28:13) :
@Anne – don’t you ever sleep???
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A Brit Abroad,
I am a bit late in responding (or a bit early, depending on how you look at it), but the simple answer is “NO!” I don’t think I have had a good night’s sleep since this campaign began! and I KNOW I haven’t slept well since Sarah Pitbull notified the world she’s the one who is “in charge of watchin’ Russia and keepin’ us safe!”
Thank you Alaska– you give us hope!!! Keep it up.
Ich bin ein Alaskan!
(or, Ich bin ein Einwohner von Alaska…but the first sounds more Kennedy-ish
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***STILL OFF TOPIC*** – Wait am I on the Bedtime Thread? Yep.
Then make that ***OFF KILTER!” I’ve been out “Riding for Obama” until I am pooped! It’s a good thing my horse loves to visit PEOPLE – I am looking for an OBAMA sign to put on her
If you haven’t visited the “Aging Hippies for Obama Club – ANYONE CAN JOIN!” thread at the Forum, you have missed reading absolutely incredible stories! They are posted on the General Chat thread.
Oh my! I knew this was a unique and talented group of people (NO! I am not talking about ME!), but you folks, collectively, have restored my belief that there is a huge group of us who are largely unnoticed but genuinely concerned about the future of America.
Your shared experiences have made me laugh, cry, play my “oldies but goodies RECORDS”, call former “partners in crime” to reminisce, hunt-up old pictures and giggle…and, most of all, LONG TO BE IN A JAIL CELL WITH JAMES TAYLOR!
Thanks for allowing us to peek into your pasts, in hopes of rekindling the unity required for changing our country’s future!
GIVE PEACE A CHANCE – YES WE CAN! – PEACE AND LOVE
(I am going to post this again tonight on the Bedtime Thread” to invite our International friends in on the conversation…so if it looks familiar…you’ll know why!
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!
Re: PCVIRGINIABEACH –
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!!!
ecp-
I am trying to think of some states in the lower 48 that would allow their entire system of gov and judicial due process to be taken over by a team from Washington for months. I am having a hard time coming up with many State governments that would lie down for that kind of thing. Signs are all fine and dandy- but how come you folks up North have not hired a team of lawyers and press agents to fight back? How come you have not petitioned your state reps to push for a special session in order to back up your bi partisan subpoenas?
Seems pretty weak to me. Nothing trollish about it. You may not like the observation, or the way in which it is framed, but It is a legitimate question.
Also- there is an arguement in this thread abotu what Bush has done federally, and that somehow that explains how an entire state can be taken over by outsiders and manipulated for political purposes. That is a weak argument. We are talking about a simple question of single State’s power and authority, being challenged by a partisan outside group that represents a single political party.
Sorry for my framing earlier… I am wondering…. literally, what more is being done?
I have also seen a lot of people stop giving interviews, and retract statements that might have been harmfull to Palin. That has to make me wonder about the protections that are in place for speech.
McCain’s public statement of support for Palin late this week just sounded to sweet to be true. It had to be issued to keep the Palin hoards at bay. I don’t think McCain is happy about Palin’s fans dominating campaign rallies, because they are not his fans. The jokes about her usurping his place as head of the ticket are probably not sending John into convulsions of laughter.
I don’t think John likes Sarah anymore. I think he wants her to go away.
The now established McEdict that this woman should be seen and not heard has gone too far. By now it has surely undermined any claim about Republican support for women’s advancement that her addition to the ticket was originally used to make. It completely obliterates any illusion that the “Hilary voters for McCain/Palin” phenomenon is anything more than a Republican hoax.
Women should be seen but not heard.
Repeat after me: Women should be seen but not heard.
This team is off their game-the partnership is on the rocks.
P.S.
Women are being taught a new lesson in gamesmanship.
I wonder how the evangenical women who were honestly looking for Sarah’s candicacy to help expand their often restricted roles within their church and culture are taking this. I actually do hope women in those situations find a way to increase their opportunities. I think we all might care to be supportive of their struggles in this regard. Oppression is not healthy.
OBAMA SIGN ALERT
For you occasional sign-watchers – you know, the one being “guarded” by Mudflatters and others via video – http://www.ustream.tv/channel/obama-sign-cctv-1 – ,
well the whole thing has made the Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122264086842483853.html
I was quite amazed that McInsane brought up again during the debates how excited he was about SP…. I do hope she will stay in the race for a few more weeks.
Shall we reverse the Mudflats campaign now to “Amercia needs you, Sarah?”
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WE LOVE YOU ALASKA:
YOU GUYS ROCK. SHOW THAT SPUNK:
FIGHT, FIGHT AND FIGHT SO MORE:
Been lurking for weeks but decided I’d better come out onto the mudflats with the following info:
I’ll post this on other threads and will try to join and post to the forum too, but I wanted to let people know that there is a rally in the planning stages for Juneau on October 11, prob. at 10 am, on the steps of the Capitol. I think the organizing group is calling it Alaskans Protesting Palin or something like that. Bring signs, mudflats/mudpuppy boots, spouses, kids, friends, neighbors, dogs, whatever. I’ll post more details when available. They’re trying to keep it under the radar for now, but I figure this is a relatively safe place to start to get out the word. Let’s try to circle the Capitol (not that she’ll be there to see us, but…)!