Brutus Speaks – The Palin Reaction to Alaskans for Truth Rally
Sunday, organizers and rally-goers were basking in the afterglow of the “Hold Palin Accountable” rally. The rally got front page coverage in the Anchorage Daily News, and was featured on local and national broadcast news. It was also picked up by newspapers across the country. This was a big step up from the coverage of the last anti-Palin rally. We are being heard.
Shortly after the rally, we heard the official response from Sarah Palin, via Meg Stapleton. For a little background, Stapleton was a former news anchor at KTUU, Alaska’s most widely viewed news station. She has at various times also been Palin’s press secretery , and special assistant. She was offered and accepted a position as mouthpiece for the McCain-Palin campaign in August. People used to like Meg Stapleton, the way you do news anchors and assistants to popular governors.
Since Stapleton’s faustian bargain with the McCain campaign, she has been the smirking, smearing, condescending, fib-telling face of the “Truth Squad.” The very name of the Squad is Orwellian, and so is Stapleton. She keeps saying, “2+2=5″, and expecting the world to believe it. Not only has the Truth Squad been dishonest, but they have systematically and surgically attacked well-respected public servants, for doing their jobs with integrity and the best interest of Alaskans at heart.
Here’s a good summary from The Anchorage Press (9/25/08)
“Today, we reiterate and emphasize the ongoing cooperation in the truly independent investigation involving the only legal forum in the state for the Monegan inquiry,” Stapleton said Monday. “As you know, that is the Personnel Board.”
Except that we don’t know that. And that was never asserted prior to Palin’s August 29 selection by McCain as his running mate.
And that’s not the least of the inaccuracies and inconsistencies being peddled by Stapleton and O’Callaghan.
When Stapleton alleged that Senator Hollis French (D-Anchorage) decided not to subpoena Palin’s former chief of staff Mike Tibbles, KTUU’s Jason Moore pointed out that it was actually Fairbanks Republican Representative Jay Ramras that requested Tibbles not be subpoenaed. Following that report on KTUU, according to TPMMuckraker.com, Stapleton called Moore’s wife and told her that Moore was calling Stapleton and O’Callaghan liars, then followed up by calling KTUU news director Steve Mac Donald to complain.
In trying to paint Commissioner Monegan as a rogue, the Truthers alleged that Monegan had sought to go to Washington, D.C. in July to seek federal funds to fight sexual violence in Alaska without the administration’s approval (the campaign called this “the final straw”). However, ABC News unearthed the travel authorization—signed by Palin’s chief of staff Mike Nizich—authorizing Monegan to go to Washington to attend a meeting with Senator Lisa Murkowski.”
OK, now we’re ready for the official response from Meg Stapleton about the rally that saw more than 1500 people converge in a downtown Anchorage Park. It is conveniently color coded for you in a lovely shade of muck…just to beat the point to death.
“Clearly this was an Obama rally and nothing else. The rally proves the point of partisanship which the Governor has been trying to remove from the investigation in an effort to get a fair and just result.
The Governor remains an open book and is fully cooperating with the non-partisan Personnel Board and its independent investigator, which are statutorily authorized to conduct an investigation.
As you no doubt noticed the personal attacks at this rally, it is unfortunate that while we discuss the Governor and her record, the Obama campaign is resorting to personally attacking those who will continue to stand with the Governor and Alaskans and against personal smears.”
Now you know why several people at the rally had signs directed squarely at Meg Stapleton. When Alaskans start quoting Julius Caesar’s “Et tu, Brute?” (Even you Brutus?) you realize the extent to which she is seen as the ultimate betrayer.
Strangely, the last time Meg Stapleton got national media attention was during her days at KTUU when a story she was filming made it to Jay Leno. While she was reporting a human interest story, at Christmas time, she knelt down by one of Santa’s reindeer. It got spooked and literally ran her over. Sometimes animals have pretty amazing instincts.
There’s a lively conversation about the congressional vote for the bail-out on the Bedtime Thread! So far this is a “no go” and the Down plunged 705 points (back up a bit now)…ahhh!
NO TO THE BAILOUT!
NO TO PALIN!
NO TO THIS MEAGHAN PERSON!
NO NO NO NO NO NO!! NO NO NO NO NO NO!! NO NO NO NO NO NO!! NO NO NO NO NO NO!! NO NO NO NO NO NO!!
“The Governor remains an open book and is fully cooperating”
Sure she is. And did you know it will be a beautiful day and 80 degrees in Anchorage on election day in November?
Give me a break, Meg!
Palin’s only job, which she does effectively, is to speak to the hard-core conservative base. They want to believe!!!
Keep working, Mudpuppies across the land. It’s going to be a tight race.
I wish I wasn’t an atheist so I could say something like, “LORD HELP US?” but I can’t.
Please help spread the following statement across the West and elsewhere where hunting and fishing is important to help counter the NRA attacks and lies. Target outdoor publications, newspaper opinion pages, and groups in areas with outdoor interests.
Obama on Hunting and Fishing
“Hunting and fishing are not just recreational pursuits, they are part of our national heritage. America’s hunters and anglers uphold a tradition that connects generations and brings families and friends together across our great nation. Today, we celebrate this tradition and the conservation legacy of hunters and anglers. “National Hunting and Fishing Day is a time to reaffirm our commitment to America’s sportsmen. As President, I will protect the right to bear arms, increase access to places to hunt and fish, take on polluters and clean up our streams and lakes, and protect our nation’s important wildlife habitat and wetlands. I will enhance programs that encourage young people to hunt and fish and respect and protect the outdoors. “Our nation’s sportsmen have made sure that this and future generations can enjoy our natural resources and wildlife. As President, I will stand with them and ensure that America’s hunting and fishing heritage endures.”
Does anyone have the Jay Leno video of Stapleton getting run over by a reindeer?
I sure hope so, how fun could working that video about be?
Can’t mention those pesky subpoenas, can you, Meg?
Just talked with my brother, who’s in Montana at his other house. He was talking about how amazing it is that this formerly red state is now as blue as the Montana skies, with Obama signs everywhere. Yeah!
GNo Gravatar (10:22:30) :
NO TO THE BAILOUT!
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GNo,
There is little division between “US” and Wall Street any more. If any of us (HELLO!) have a CD, a retirement account, savings account, WE are tied to the markets. If we decide to kick Wall Street now (and I AGREE THEY DESERVE IT FOR THEIR EXCESSES) we are kicking OURSELVES!
Aging hippie afraid to check the balance in her retirement account
yes, annieinwa, there are those of us out here who are truly gonna suffer from the effects of deregulation on wall street.
so much of our family’s retirement plans are tied to all sorts of finacial entities.
can you imagine what the recent declines in the market have done to hardworking folks like my dear husband and i’m sure others of you here.
we all are affected.
i want a change in washington and i want it now.
At the Soldotna rally there were rude gestures made by passers-by, and somebody yelled “Traitors!” out the car window.
My wanting Obama to be the president isn’t why I want the Gov. I don’t want the Gov. to blow off the law and the people. The fact that she is doing this, just like her running mate, is why I don’t want THEM and their ideology and outlook to continue to run the country! That’s one part of it.
A completely different part of it is that I want Obama for president because I believe he will do what he says he will do, be accountable, think!, make changes that improve the lives of EVERY ONE both here and abroad (with our continued help and support!), and be intelligent, caring, courageous and powerful with INTEGRITY and RESPECT for persons and for democracy!
That has nothing to do with Palin – IN EVERY SINGLE WAY! Those who want to continue to rape the earth, (and probably charge us for the kit!), and to spit on the downtrodden, those who want to continue to dehumanize their own and every other country that doesn’t serve THEIR needs and comforts, those who want to lick the boots of the rich and famous and kick everybody else in the face — those who can’t allow any voices but their own — those folks need to think – HARD – about what America means. I think if they do, or COULD – HONESTLY – they’d at the very least keep their fingers and their accusations to themselves when driving by people who are trying to raise the issues of oppression and flawed leadership in the only way we know how.
one can only
HOPE!
I just heard Obama speaking about the failure of the vote in a VERY calm manner. He said this will get worked out – don’t panic. Lots of mavericks on the floor it seems, but WOULD THE LEADER PLEASE STAND UP?
Were there a lot of Obama signs? I hate that they automatically say the other side is behind this to make people “disregard” this type of thing. Oh, don’t listen to the media they are all working for Obama. Please! I wish people would just read and educate themselves instead of using the free pass, “this is propoganda from the other side”, that is such a horrible reason to disregard something.
let them keep talking. their words will hang like shackles around their necks. these people are just unbelievable.
At the Soldotna rally there were rude gestures made by passers-by, and somebody yelled “Traitors!” out the car window.
My wanting Obama to be the president isn’t why I want the Gov. to be accountable! I don’t want the Gov. to blow off the law and the people. The fact that she is doing this, just like her running mate, is why I don’t want THEM and their ideology and outlook to continue to run the country! That’s one part of it.
A completely different part of it is that I want Obama for president because I believe he will do what he says he will do, be accountable, think!, make changes that improve the lives of EVERY ONE both here and abroad (with our continued help and support!), and be intelligent, caring, courageous and powerful with INTEGRITY and RESPECT for persons and for democracy!
That has nothing to do with Palin – IN EVERY SINGLE WAY! She has NONE of those qualities! The point is, she needs to do what’s right here in Alaska regardless of who any of us vote for for president.
Those who want to continue to rape the earth, (and probably charge us for the kit!), and to spit on the downtrodden, those who want to continue to dehumanize their own and every other country that doesn’t serve THEIR needs and comforts, those who want to lick the boots of the rich and famous and kick everybody else in the face — those who can’t allow any voices but their own to be heard — those folks need to think – HARD – about what America means. I think if they do, or COULD – HONESTLY – they’d at the very least keep their fingers and their accusations to themselves when driving by people who are trying to raise the issues of oppression and flawed leadership in the only way we know how.
one can only
HOPE!
“The governor remains an open book.”
The only problem is, she has erased every page.
sorry, I tried to edit my long Hope comment, and it didn’t work, so now there are both versions up there. Guess I just don’t get it! (editing, that is!)
hope
The problem with her open book is she won’t give public readings.
Cin in South Georgia, what part of South Georgia do you hail from? I grew up in St. Marys and am now in Missouri. It is nice to see a south georgian that is not a republican.
I get sick and tired of the spin from the McCain and Palin campaigns. If you do not agree with them it is because you are in the tank for Obama. I am sure that there were Obama supporters out there, but I wager to bet there were more people out there trying to support public servants that have been thrown under the “straight talk express.” I am proud that people have chosen to speak out against Gov. Palin. She said she would cooperate and she has not done so to the this point. It is that simple. No amount of spinning changes that important fact. She is not a woman of her word.
…and her open book, for some reason, is being censored, anyway, so whatever she may have written (or want to read to us from index cards) is not available. Neither is our governor.
Let’s all invite friends from both parties over for the debates….well maybe just a couple who need encouragement, not all…….
@slappyOC:
I don’t recall seeing ONE Obama sign. Everything I saw was directed at Palin.
Sara, Mother of Pistol Tanker and Fire Patriot
I’m near Jesup (Odum). In my other life (formerly married) we used to go to St Marys alot to go crabbing. Nice to meet you. Can’t wait to vote for Obama and against M&P!
There were very few Obama signs at the rally. I spoke with someone, obviously bemused (out of towner pilot, I think) about it for a bit. As I told him, it was NOT an Obama rally — that is NEXT Saturday — it was an Alaskans For Truth rally. My signs, and I brought five of them (handed out to others), did not say a thing about Obama. The fella had heard about Troopergate of course. The main goals for the ralliers, I told him, were to eject the McCain legal team from Alaska, recall a corrupt Attorney General beholden to our Gov for his job, and to ensure that our legislators see that the Branchflower investigation is carried out and the results made public.
Anyone viewing the signs can see that there was little about Obama in this rally. Of course it behooves Meg, as a McLame snake in the grass, to continue to use their “partisan” & “personal attacks” lines. Naturally it is the McLame campaign M.O. to use partisan & personal attacks, so they would not recognize a non-partisan issue if it bit them in the ass. Further, of course it’s personal, these are PEOPLE committing these outrageous acts against our state & public servants, not inanimate objects!
There was an important document given out at the rally, “The Countdown to Truth” — I don’t know if it’s been addressed at the Forum, but if it hasn’t I will type it up over there. Please please check for it (in 1/2 hour or so) and read up. It is very important, and will shed more light on the truth of the rally & what Alaskans for Truth are trying to accomplish. If it’s already on the forum somewhere I will come back to this thread and tell you all where.
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The official “Countdown to Truth” begins on October 1st…10 days from the date we are supposed to receive the report from Stephen Branchflower, the independent investigator appointed by the Judicial Council. I’ll be posting on this extensively, and dedicated Mudflatters will even have a homework assignment! Fun!! AKMuckraker
Palin will keep up this charade until the bitter end. If you tell enough lies over and over, people may start to believe them. This is what they are hoping.
On a lighter side, you need to write a book using your blogs about Palin. It would be hillarious and a best seller. Even the reindeer are running for their lives poor things!
If you are against the bailout of Wall Street bankers with taxpayers’ dollars you can have faxes sent to all House members and all other main players for $15.00 @grassfire.net. You can persoanlize your message.
I’m not so much against the bailout as uncertain. The repurcussions could truly be worse. Like cutting off our noses…
But I do think Paulson and other VIP’s will just sell the choicest bits of the securites to various buddies for bargain basement prices. The taxpayers will be left with bottom of the barrel/defaulted loans.
Re: I wish I wasn’t an atheist so I could say something like, “LORD HELP US?” but I can’t.
There’s always the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
AnneinWA is exactly correct. Not passing the bailout was an act of political cowardice. The House members know there’s a lot of anger out beyond the Beltway. Some of it’s rightly directed at Wall Street, but Congress aided and abetted them by de-regulating the industry and then not funding the inspectors or providing any oversight themselves.
So, now, rather than exert some real leadership, they’re looking to each other — sort of a “you go first” deal. They want the plan to pass, but don’t want their name attached, especially this close to the election. That’s not putting country first. That’s not leadership. It’s cowardice.
Meanwhile the Dow is dumping, along with the European markets as bank failures spread there as well. That’s why I’ve been blogging about the bailout for days. Please forgive the shameless self-promotion, but the links from our names to our blogs seem to have disappeared with the migration to the new site…
http://morelightthanheat.wordpress.com
I’m sorry it should be grassfire.org (not grassfire.net)to send faxes to congress against the huge Wall Street bailout. It’s very easy and fast.
Both the Republicans and Democrats are going to have to come up with a bill soon. Many people do not understand what this is all about. If something is not done now—-or very soon—-your 401/s can go south. Or your c/d’s , or your business will not be able to borrow money to pay employees & etc, etc, and etc. It is all about MAIN STREET!!!!!!!!—-economics 101.
This must be a bill written by both political parties—NOT a political football.
God Bless America
Obama/Biden 08
Her open book is full of those baloney quotes
Palmdale aka Moose Roadster PalinNo Gravatar (11:43:48) :
Not passing the bailout was an act of political cowardice. The House members know there’s a lot of anger out beyond the Beltway. Some of it’s rightly directed at Wall Street, but Congress aided and abetted them by de-regulating the industry and then not funding the inspectors or providing any oversight themselves.
So, now, rather than exert some real leadership, they’re looking to each other — sort of a “you go first” deal. They want the plan to pass, but don’t want their name attached, especially this close to the election. That’s not putting country first. That’s not leadership. It’s cowardice.
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Palmdale,
You know I agree with you. McCain is on the trail blaming Obama for this, saying he simply “watched from the sidelines”. I am sick of the COWARDS playing politics with our country. The market is dropping, banks are closing, and Congress is going on “break”? STAY IN DC AND WORK! Write to your legislators AGAIN!
Oops! Sorry – that last post sounded a bit bossy – like it might have come from the lips of a pitbull! Grrrr!
Silly Wabbit
(There’s always the Flying Spaghetti Monster.)
We LOVE the FSM!
World without end,
ramen.
I don’t understand most of this bailout, but I feel doing something is better than doing nothing. I think it is absurd some of the republicans voted no because they didn’t like pelosi’s remarks. They admit to such a childish excuse? Just how brain dead can they be? Our country looks worse than ever.
Palmdale,
You know I agree with you. McCain is on the trail blaming Obama for this, saying he simply “watched from the sidelines”. I am sick of the COWARDS playing politics with our country. The market is dropping, banks are closing, and Congress is going on “break”? STAY IN DC AND WORK! Write to your legislators AGAIN!
Anyone who was paying attention knew that Obama met with Paulson, Bernake, economists and members of Congress. He is also the one who insisted on taking care of the people on main street who are losing their homes, limiting golden parachutes, oversight and equity for taxpayers. Anyone who was paying attention knows that McCain did absolutely nothing, including even reading the plans.
Yes, heaven forbid Alaskans actually think and speak for themselves! These people are insulting.
It amazes me how people can so easily lie… btw, there is scuttlebut that Palin will bail from the debate so she can rush with McLame to Warshington to save the economy. Didn’t they try that last week? This is absolutely nuts.
Um… Meghan dear, let’s count the anti-Palin signs, shall we? Might think about moving. Word on the street is that it’s getting hot in Alaska for you. And take Sarah with you to a galaxy far far away.
Can I buy that reindeer a bunch of carrots?
The bailout failed today because of politics not because anyone in the House really believed it wasn’t necessary. That is the truth. I know there is much discussion everywhere that this bailout isn’t necessary. Kos himself has come out strongly against it.
But as I said (in another thread) orginally I was against it (gut reaction) but now, I’m not so sure. I’m not a young kid anymore. I’m a middle-aged woman who has worked hard her entire life and I have a very modest retirement compared to a lot of people. But sorry but I really don’t want to lose it.
But what we really need right now is strong leadership. Bush is of course a huge joke and with his 18% approval rating (or whatever it’s tanking at these days) he is completely useless. McCain is just an ineffective as he is a proven liar so no one really believes anything he says.
Obama, however, could really provide some very necessary leadership at this critical time because people believe him. I fear he is trying to avoid the fallout from being too supportive of the bailout plan as so many voters oppose it.
This is a crazy time right now. The leadershp void in this country is just plain scary. I understand that it’s not Barack Obama’s responsilibity to take the leadership reins as he is not the president and he did not put us in this mess.
However, I personally believe, Barack Obama is one of the few politicians right now, that still has the trust of the majority of the American people.
I sincerely wish he would speak out clearly about where he stands on this bailout and more importantly why! The American people need assurances that this bailout is necessary and I personally believe Barack Obama is about the only guy around who can provide it.
Someone needs to tell the American people what the ramifications are if this bailout doesn’t go through.
That is what I personally am still not hearing loud and clear and trust me I’m looking and I’m listening. I want details and specifics – not gloom and doom end of the world predictions. (If I wanted that I would join Sarah Palin’s church).
And I believe that lack of specifics is what has turned the American public against the bailout.
Is there information, specific details about the bailout that are available for the public to read? What exactly is the plan — does anyone outside of the beltway have a clue?
I use to like Meg Stapleton. But that was before she became an evil liar.
Tomorrow will be worse. The news came AFTER the most of the foreign markets closed. When they open and see the Dow, you can bet there is going to be some screeching sounds on Wall St. Let’s hope Washington gets this done tonight.
Strangely, the last time Meg Stapleton got national media attention was during her days at KTUU when a story she was filming made it to Jay Leno. While she was reporting a human interest story, at Christmas time, she knelt down by one of Santa’s reindeer. It got spooked and literally ran her over. Sometimes animals have pretty amazing instincts.
Does anyone have the Jay Leno video of Stapleton getting run over by a reindeer?
I sure hope so, how fun could working with that video be?
bPoint
Washington had better be quick. The Japanese market opens at 7:00pm EST and the Hong Kong market opens at 9:00pm EST. London opens at 3:30am. I expect them to really drop fast.
to AnneinWAThere is little division between “US” and Wall Street any more. If any of us (HELLO!) have a CD, a retirement account, savings account, WE are tied to the markets. If we decide to kick Wall Street now (and I AGREE THEY DESERVE IT FOR THEIR EXCESSES) we are kicking OURSELVES!
Aging hippie afraid to check the balance in her retirement account
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I agree. I won’t look at mine and haven’t in a few months. I’m 64 and keep hoping it will recover before I’m 70, but I’m willing to risk it all in the hope that they will come up with a better plan which will be more acceptable. No one wants anything George Bush wants anymore and the scare tactics are so reminiscent of the beginning of the war in Iraq. Apparently the Daily Show (according to my son) did a comparison of the language for the bailout and the war and the similarities were striking.
This from a message on The New Republic:
Breaking: Sources close to Senator John McCain say he will suspend Gov. Sarah Palin from her debate with Senator Joe Biden. “The failure to pass the recovery plan demands she focus all her energy along with me and we will both head to Washington and be on call.” The paid informant confirmed McCain had decided on this course before the vote and before today’s airing of Palin’s interview with Katie Couric on CBS Evening News. He’s urging CBS to not air the interview as it my further “harm their effort” in Washington.
Not sure what his source is, but this wouldn’t surprise me.
To be clear, the message cited by B in MA is in the comments of a blog post, not in an article posted on the site. Has anyone seen it somewhere more “official?”
B in MA (13:11:17)
For a campaign against abortion, they sure know how to plan one!
B in MA (13:11:17) :
This quote appears in a comment to the main post, and the way the rest of the comment it is worded makes me think that this is bogus — where did the commenter get a “paid informant” — and why is this particular quote sourced nowhere on google other than as at that website?
Let me get this straight. The way I’m reading that last message is that the economic crisis was manufacturered by the McCain campaign to get Palin out of the debates?
I mean seriouslly!!!!! That is what it sounds like McCain is saying. Did he urge Republican NOT to vote on the plan so he could get his airhead out of the debates?
Give us a F*&**(*() Break! If McCain thinks Sarah Palin could do anything to help in this crisis, then why doesn’t he have her get on National TV RIGHT NOW and explain to the American people what this is all about.
Afterall, she is ‘just like us’ so she should be able to make us all understand it and put our collective fears to rest.
John McCain is a disgrace to America. The country needs leadership, REAL leadership, not political posturing right now.
Message to the McCain campaign. Please take your Caribou Barbie and go home! We don’t have time for your games right now!
If you don’t want her to debate then come out and say she can’t debate because she sucks! We all know that anyway so maybe you could garner one iota of respect for telling the truth just once in this campaign.
Pathetic. There are no words for how low McCain has sunk.
McCain just spoke live from Iowa. He did not mention his return to Washington, or any postponement of the debate.
He just blamed Obama for the whole mess today
I haven’t been able to track down any other mention of this yet.
Probably just crap.
That Stapleton would link the rallies to Obama/Biden is ludicrous and just demonstrates the level of denial and spin. She’s thinking like the Republican machine and doesn’t know genuine citizen concern and participation when she sees it.
The best plan I have seen for the bailout is the Swedish plan detailed in the NYT. The current measure, also known as ‘take the money and run,’ deserved to fail. As Paul Krugman just said on his blog, ‘We have become a banana republic with nukes.’ Thanks, GOP. Now Limbaugh is trying to pin this on the Dems, as is McCain. There are no perfectly white hats here but it is a thankless task to clean up or at least put a finger in the dike during this benighted administration.
I want Obama out in the media NOW condemning McCain’s statement and putting out the TRUTH.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/23/business/worldbusiness/23krona.html?scp=1&sq=swedish&st=cse
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/29/ok-we-are-a-banana-republic/
How exactly is this Obama’s fault?
Inquiring minds want to know.
From everything I’m reading, it’s more McCain’s fault because he has no leadership status AT ALL within his party and was not able to recruit the necessary Republican votes needed to pass the bailout plan.
Republicans bailed on accepting the plan after promising they would support it.
How is that Obama’s fault?
Or is it Obama’s fault that McCain voted against any regulations involving the banking industry for the last 24 years?
Please, please, please Katie Couric! Please release the rest of the interviews!
Palin Says she’s ready to rumble
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/palin-says-shes.html
She can only speak like this when there is no question.
Ok, I just read something that makes a lot of sense. The 700 billion bail out of Wall Street was supposed to cost each taxpayer $2,500. How many taxpayers lost that amount of money in their retirement account today with the stock market falling 700 points. And the same will probably happen the day after and the day after.
So, which would you rather have. Would you rather pay $2,500 to bail out the Wall Street thieves, and retain the money in your retirement account or would you rather do nothing and see your retirement go down the drain.
If we bail out Wall Street, we will all feel bad because they don’t deserve it. But Obama can fix things so that Wall Street can never rip us off again like that. I’m not sure how Obama will be able to fix a total melt down of our economy and the loss of your retirement.
Re: the bailout
I don’t think anyone WANTS the bailout, but my husband (primary wage-earner) works for Science Diet. If the market tanks and the economy worsens, there is a probability that customers will no longer buy premium food for their pets. If this happens, he loses his job and we lose insurance. So although “No to the bailout!” sounds good, the truth is that we need to do it. Hold our noses if we must, but it has to pass.
@oc liberal
I’m with you! Whether the comment about pulling SP from the debate is true or not, it’s believable… and that in itself says volumes. Given her response to Katie Couric (and McCain’s own response during the debate) on the economic crisis and how the bailout would create jobs and reform healthcare…. Need I say more?
Bush would be better off going on vacation. At least then he wouldn’t be doing any more harm. He needs to let the grown-ups try to pull the fat out of the fire.
Pelosi may have been absolutely correct in her assessment of blame. I agree with her. But that wasn’t the time to make her remark She should have known that it was incendiary. I was disappointed in her. That said, I do think someone should go up to the Hill and knock some heads together. We don’t need political cowardice right now. We need some actual leadership. No wonder people are even more pissed at Congress than at Bush!
So, right after I’ve blasted Congress for being self-serving, I just posted a rant on my blog…
http://morelightthanheat.wordpress.com
Although I must admit that my temperature has gotten pretty high lately. In fact, I’m mad as hell.
I say we all vote for actual adults this time around. GO Obama/Biden!
This ‘bailout” has not been explained to the public at all well. It MUST be passed in some form, or the consequences to people’s jobs, life savings, retirement accounts, etc will suffer much more than the “fat cats” that many people seem to think not passing the bill will hurt. With credit tightened up to the extreme all over the world, it will be harder and harder to meet payrolls, expand businesses, and hold on to your job. By not passing a bill, you end up cutting off your nose to spite your face. The financial crisis that is pending will be your ‘trickle down economics’ big time! I think some people don’t really understand the word ‘socialism’, confusing it with communism. Canada, New Zealand, Australia, France, Germany, England, Ireland, Scotland, Switzerland, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Austria, etc etc are all DEMOCRACIES with some sociaIZED programs. Needless to say, it works quite well and has for centuries. What is going on now in the US is unfettered greed run amok, passed off as capitalism that is ‘good’ for the average citizen. Lunacy – it’s good for those at the top with little trickle down effect for those lower down on the social ladder.
AlaskaDisasta,
I couldn’t agree more. I searched everywhere on line for a simple, no jargon, no fearmongering explanation all weekend to no avail. Finally no that is not passed they are breaking it down to laymans terms. I hate it but do believe it has to pass.
Congress is recieving messages against the bailout of at least 100-1. This is a populist movement that includes both Democrats and Rebublicans by the tens of thousands! Contact your Senators and Represenatives!
They admit that they have no idea if this massive bailout, using our money, would even work! Remember the rush to war in Iraq? We had to do it immediatly or there would be a mushroom cloud! So… is this a financial mushroom card? Yes! Exactly! Yet, another fraud by our Government!
I have to agree with Soldotna Sue. I contacted Stevens, Young & Murkowski and asked the they proceed with caution! This is not something that happened overnight, and it will not be solved overnight. I particularly want the issues of executive compensation & Sec of Treasury powers addressed. We cannot have it both ways! We can have a reasonable & equitable solution that will work in the long-term OR a quick-fix. I don’t think we can have both, but that’s just my opinion of course.
In regard to the latest remarks by mclame re: Obama sticking a spoke in things, one hopes that voters who have not yet decided on a candidate see through his posturing & partisan poison. There has been plenty of flip-flopping going on, and hopefully the big MSM streams will call him out on it. Hold on to hope everyone!
I just saw a piece of the Couric interview on Keith Olbermann’s show and McCain was with Palin and doing all of the talking! They can’t trust her out there by herself! Shucks! I was looking forward to the third segment of her mumbo-jumbo! They didn’t tell us that McLame was going to be with her when they were advertizing this part of the interview! !@#$%^&*
From my vantage point, there was never meant to be a fix, but a short term necessity in order to get the markets flushed with money again in order to provide needed credit.
Without that, people, small businesses and corporations would not be able to get the money needed to do day to day living, such as buying homes, cars, meeting payrolls, etc.
My issue is they are not selling it with the correct amount of information. They keep calling it a “BailOUt” and it is not a bailout, notany more. This is no longer about Wall street, it is about mainstreet. As someone said in an earlier post, almost every area of our lives is tied to wall street in some way.
We cannot let the economy or wall street crash, “don’t forget 1929″. That is not an option. People think they are losing jobs and homes now, they’ve not seen an anything yet. Not to mention the world markets. AsUS goes; so goes the rest of the world.
Congress, Wall Street and the media have all talked about the doom and gloom and have not provided enough information to the average American as to the benefit of this on the upside. IT is not guaranteed, however there were provisions included that would help protect taxpayers as much as possible.
Bottom line is, that need to st op the scare, panic tactics and give a realistic explanation as to why this is a good deal based on the circumstances.
The main thing is don’t panic, get information, don’t listen to the media or the politicians and begin looking at what additional options we need to put in place on a personal level to increase our own revenues.
Meg et al are a disgusting bunch of rats. What are these people going to do when they have to go back to a “real job” after McCain loses? Hah!
AKM: “Strangely, the last time Meg Stapleton got national media attention was during her days at KTUU when a story she was filming made it to Jay Leno. While she was reporting a human interest story, at Christmas time, she knelt down by one of Santa’s reindeer. It got spooked and literally ran her over. Sometimes animals have pretty amazing instincts.”
hehehehehehehhe! good one Muckraker!
just caught up on my Mudflats reading, and with all the seriousness of the day, this fractures me.
“Run run run, run little Rudolph..”
poopie trolls
I thought the investigation by the Personnel Board was off b’cuz Palin w/drew her complaint against herself??
Meg is a very pathetic person, how sad to spout such lies and b.s. w/ a straight face . . . hopefully, after all this is over, her credibility will be shot and she won’t find a job any place in AK. Along w/ a lot of other people.
Meg Stapleton Should NEVER Work in Alaska Again!
When the Geezer-MILF ticket loses on November 4th, on November 5th, Meghan should be presented with a sympathy card along with a gift certificate for a $25 worth of resume consulting and a pre-established account on Monster.com. After being a McHo for eight weeks, she should be able to find a nice sinecure for the Biloxi Chamber of Commerce.