McCain Camp Figures Out Sarah Palin’s Problem!
Rarely do things actually make me laugh out loud, alone in a room…especially the Wall Street Journal. But, there’s a first time for everything.
(clearing throat and trying to be serious)
Apparently Republicans have figured out what Palin’s problem is, and what she needs to do to bolster her plummeting poll numbers. I DARE you to keep a straight face.
Some prominent Republicans and senior members of Congress have expressed worries about certain facets of the Palin campaign, particularly that Gov. Palin may be “overprepared” and not encouraged to be herself, an adviser said.
And, the same article plants the seed for the “need to spend more time with my family” excuse that some are starting to think may be the excuse used to mark the end of her candidacy if things tank after the debate.
“For his part, Mr. Palin has worried about the frequent separation of his wife from her family, friends and Alaska staff, an adviser said.”
Ahhh…Todd is not pleased.
But, back to the debate on Thursday… Here’s the strategy we can expect.
“It’s time to let Palin be Palin — and let it all hang out,” said Scott Reed, a Republican strategist. Yes, enough of that”overprepared” rigid Palin who lets none of her personality escape. Go ahead….let it all hang out. I’ve got my popcorn.
You guys have probably seen this already, but if not:
http://interviewpalin.com/r0
Andrew Sullivan is warning Dems and other Obama supporters to watch out now that the GOP is cornered and critically wounded. They are vicious at the best of times–it could get really extra ugly from here on in. Unless, of course, they completely turn on themselves, like the House started doing today. Good thing Palin is familiar with a gun–she may have to shoot her way out of Washington. She might take a few of those latte-fed carcasses with her.
What planet are the Palins from? They just assumed that their run for the VP office would be a walk in the park and not change their lives much? This just demonstrates even more that SP is not ready to lead this country if she is so naive and can’t take the heat for 30 short days, while being hidden from the media for the most part.
Well the seed has been planted, how soon does everyone think she will withdraw?
Wow. Thats amazing.
When I watch, I’ll bet that I start talking to the screen pointing at it, and throwing popcorn.
Over prepared. Well that may be true. She may have reached her limit of what she can absorb, and she may need to go home so her head can explode in private.
Kidding aside I read the (ADN?) article about how Palin’s debate style is to be perky speak in generalities, and ignore questions as she uses her time to spout her talking points.
Hard to beat that !??? :-/
AKM its clear you’re ‘paying attention’. I hope the nation does too as she does her little sound byte cheer / debate.
Oh, great catch, AKM!
Yes, that Todd comment is very telling. The seed has indeed been planted.
It worries me a little bit when the real news is completely indistinguishable from The Onion….
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It’s kind of like when all SNL has to do is faithfully reproduce reality to be hysterically funny (or downright frightening).
AKM
At work today we were debating what to drink/eat after every Palin gaffe on Thursday. We determined that shots would not work because we’d all be blasted after the first half-hour. We’re now torn between chocolate or jelly beans.
I say, go for it Sarah! You can’t be any worse than you’ve already been. Stop preparing now and wing it!
It worries me a little bit when the real news is completely indistinguishable from The Onion….
This was my first laugh aloud moment of a the day! How true that is!
Yes, that’s her problem! She just needs to be MORE herself!
Because whoever she is now is just someone trying to overwork poor Tina Fey! Give Tina a break!
Mr Todd has spoken. Let the games begin!
“Overprepared”? *Blink Blink* I am so gonna Tivo this so I can watch it over and over again. I have a lot of stress in my life. This is sure to provide me some comic relief.
Does anyone think that after McCain wins the election from Palin delivering the right wing side of the party that she will then step down citing “family pressures” and Lieberman will fill in the Veep slot?
And if that’s so, how many think that if they did that right this very very second they’d likely get more votes?
The Democrats are very very smart with this. Just like Napolean’s strategy with stupid enemies, they’re letting her have as much rope as she wants to hang herself. Go Biden!
The McCain campaign is really between a rock and a hard place (several) with Sarah Palin now. They were preventing her from being herself and “letting it all hang out” because they knew the independents would run for the hills. But obviously, she’s not as trainable or as quick a study as initially thought, so she can’t be trusted to parrot back the Republican talking points in a coherent fashion. She can’t withdraw this late in the game without dealing a fatal blow to McCain. (And who would be stupid enough to pinch hit for her anyway?) Let’s see what desperate, crazy stunt McCain pulls before Thursday!
I posed this question on another post on this blog, but I’m really curious about who from Palin’s Alaska staff got posted to her “operation” i.e. her run as Veep?
I wondered if it was someone on the state’s payroll and a member of her Juneau/Anchorage staff, or is it someone from the local national campaign office.
If it is someone from the gov.’s office, would that be legal, ethical, legitimate use etc.
Anyone know anything about this. I read this on the Examiner.com
I read that Palin was going to be ensconced at the McCain ranch until the debate. If she is going to go through with the debate (I have doubts), she’ll have to pull out afterwards. Or, maybe the repugs are just going to “walk the dog” that is their campaign. I know, I know, it’s an insult to dogs everywhere! Sorry pups!
@ boretide: I think it’s the babysitter. She’s paid state staff, but her job is primarily Palin’s nanny.
YouTube video of Palin speaking at her church.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k
Palin mentions Christy on the video at the 3:17 mark. Christy was their nanny. This may be the ‘admin assistant’ that’s with them now.
Christy the nanny is also mentioned here:
http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2008/09/02/text-transcript-of-sarah-palins-speech-of-june-8-2008-at-masters-commission-of-wasilla-alaska/
NOW, the first Dud is worried?????? He seems to have a problem with withdrawing from things a little too late.
If she withdraws the replacement won’t be Lieberman, it’ll be Don Guilliani if anyone. Nobody else would touch this toxic campaign with a long stick
How, BTW does Tina Fay manage to do a perfect impression of S.f.B and still be an order of magnitude prettier?
thanks for the laugh.
Let’s not forget that Palin was McCain’s crap shoot. What are the odds of making point on snake eyes ?
McCain & Palin
The Three Mile Island of political campaigns.
posted earlier that it started in Az, and it will end in Az. bye Sp.
Snowbelle, you made me laugh.
As for me… I say: Uncork the fermented talking points… let her spew!!!
I can’t wait.
Can anyone tell me why…any thinking, caring, normal non-crazy person…would vote for that nasty, old banty rooster with Napoleon syndrome..John McCain?
I see nothing redeemable in the man. He is belligerant..nasty..and out and out liar…and I dont care that he was a pow.
Someone help me with this please.
snowbelle (14:29:48) :
It worries me a little bit when the real news is completely indistinguishable from The Onion….
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I had to laugh out loud at that too.
No Kidding, I’d like the Onion to run that story straight…
“Palin over Prepared”
- Goes home to protect us from Russia.
@ Epic (14:52:17) : How, BTW does Tina Fay manage to do a perfect impression of S.f.B and still be an order of magnitude prettier?//
Tina is bit younger (1970) and more slender than Sarah Palin (1964).
McCain’s probem is that he should have never asked her to be his running mate, and Palin’s problem is that when he asked, she should have graciously declined.
Same thing happened to FDR. He asked another very popular Governor to be his running mate the last time he ran for President, and the politcian said no, citing that he knew his limitations. And then FDR turned around and asked Truman.
snowbelleNo Gravatar (14:29:48) :
“It worries me a little bit when the real news is completely indistinguishable from The Onion….”
Belly laugh – spitting my water all over my desk. Thank you!
McCain is already running around the country following Palin and giving counterpoint interviews to undo the damage little Sarah is doing to his campaign. What’s he gonna do after the debate, challenge Biden to a duel? If it would get the attention off his massive errors in judgment, I’m sure he’d give it a try.
Pathetic.
Nope couldn’t do it.
Not even close.
Well I support their desire to let Sarah come to the debates with less preparation and a mandate to “be herself”. If that happens I imagine this will not be the last time that I laugh out loud this week.
Just watched the McLames on CBS. McA$$ claims ‘gotcha journalism’ on the Pakistan
question. Can’t wait to hear y’alls impression of yet another fiasco. But look here,
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/eveningnews/main3420.shtml
Is Mr. Palin more worried about the frequent separations from his wife or because he’s not invited to the meetings? Must be hard on him since he’s gotten used to making government decisions with her.
I agree with AlaskaDisasta ..
NOW ‘first dude’ is worried??? Ummm .. excuse me? Didn’t she discuss all this with him BEFORE she accepted??? She told Faux News that she didn’t immediately accept, contrary to her previous lie, but took some time to discuss it with ‘my girls’ .. then accepted.
Don’t either one of them have a clue what CAMPAIGN means?? It looks obviously like they don’t .. and that the ‘first dude’ is as totally clueless as Sarah.
Or .. he’s been directed to say that to prime the sheeple for Sarah leaving.
And the thought of her being replaced by Guliani, to me, is as frightening as having Palin in office. Can you imagine the lunacy of a John/Rudy ticket?? I hate to say it, but it would make Bush look good.
Supreme Court Vacancies Likely in Next Four Years
Off topic, but it nobody’s talking about it ANYWHERE and it’s really important!
This from http://www.electoral-vote.com/:
One issue that has been totally absent from the campaign is the Supreme Court. Five of the justices are 70 or more. Justice Stevens is 88 and unlikely to want to serve 4 more years. Justice Ginsberg had cancer and was operated on for it. Justice Souter is known to want to retire and return to New Hampshire. These are three of the most liberal justices on the court. If all three retire and are replaced by Obama, the court will retain its even split between liberals and conservatives for many years to come. If all three are replaced by McCain, the conservatives will have a clear majority and surely reverse Roe v. Wade and many other decisions that conservatives think are wrong. It is amazing that the court has gotten so little attention.
who knows in which thread to place this.
but i’ll first try here as it seems to be the most up-to-date.
this explanation of our current financial crisis and how it affects each and everyone of us is brief and to the point.
the writer posts regularly on the website: tvclubhouse.com which has, surprisingly, become very involved in current affairs.
this is what she says:
“…you asked some time ago what a market crash means to people who aren’t invested in the market. This is primarily a credit crisis, and our country runs on credit. The first thing it means that people who want loans and can qualify for them won’t be able to get them.
You won’t be able to buy or sell your home. You won’t be able to buy a car. You can’t get any new credit cards, and may not be able to use your existing cards. You won’t be able to buy anything on credit at all.
A level away, it means many businesses will run out of cash. Many of them use short term lines of credit to make payroll – and that’s businesses large and small. They won’t be able to expand their businesses, move their businesses, nothing. Many of them will fail.
The dollar will fall. Everything will cost more to you – food, clothing, utilities. We will fall deeper into a recession.
As businesses fail, people will lose their jobs, maybe you will lose yours. With unemployment high, opportunities to find new jobs will be few and far between. Employers will pay less, if you can find a job at all.
So, that’s how a market crash, particularly because of a credit crisis will effect you.
And that is what our lawmakers, in all their political posturing about ‘saving Wall Street’ have either failed to convey to everyone, or don’t understand themselves.”
Palin was a Hail Mary. Mostly they get intercepted or batted down.
A flock of Canada geese just flew over my house here in PA, so I am preparing for my new job as the Prime Minister of Canada. Wish me luck.
Re: Gina (15:15:30) :
Supreme Court Vacancies Likely in Next Four Years
Off topic, but it nobody’s talking about it ANYWHERE and it’s really important!
And McCain has given us his first example of how he make important appointments in Palin.
Anyone have any thoughts on who would he manage to come up with for the Supreme Court?
AlaskaDisastaNo Gravatar (14:46:29) :
NOW, the first Dud is worried?????? He seems to have a problem with withdrawing from things a little too late.
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LOL! Got the double entendre! Spot on. This should be a bumper sticker put out by Planned Parenthood! But if this statement from The Todd is real, then I think it is indeed a planted seed. Hubby NOW objects that the Little Lady might be Vice president of the United States. Wow! Doesn’t this new plot twist in the soap opera now set Women’s Lib back FULLY 40 years if they go with this escape plan story? Can’t the Republicans get better screenwriters than this?
Good luck, Dee! That was hilarious! You just reminded me that for the longest time, I called them Canadian geese (they took over a pond where I worked), and every time I did, a coworker would call out “eh?” (No offense to our good neighbors to the north!
RE: marksmyword aka Barrel McRaven PalinNo Gravatar (14:31:14) :
I wish I worked where you do. My office is full of Palin lovers! Ugh!
Dee:
We would welcome a new prime minister. The one we have is in Bush’s pocket and it looks like he might actually get in with another minority government. His dream, of course is for a majority so he really implement his right wing bigoted agenda. The geese are leaving early this year, it seems…
@ Laurie
What makes people willing to vote for McCain? He has an “R” after his name, and for some people, that’s all that matters.
4 WEEKS from the election and her party has to constantly make excuses for her and spin her behavior and words into something they think the voters will buy. Not gonna happen (at least, I sure hope so). We’ve seen the real Sarah Palin and she isn’t someone most of us want to see anywhere near the White House.
You know, just because I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean “they” are not out to get me, but have you ever really wondered why in the name of all that is holy, he chose her in the first place? I mean there’s Kay Baily Hutchison and several others with the “woman” thing going for them who would have been better choices. I am deeply suspicious of “these guys” and am constantly waiting for the “other shoe to drop”. I mean. let’s face it, Karl Rove may be evil, but he is a genius when it comes to political trickery.
And this has been such a roller coaster, I fear that there may be some underlying sneaky crap afoot.
And yes, the geese have been buzzing over head for a few weeks. But the ones I saw this evening were heading NORTH!!
Gina, the Supreme Court replacements are a huge, HUGE issue! Sarah Weddington (who argued Roe v. Wade) must be beside herself!
Palin Says she’s ready to rumble Thursday:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/palin-says-shes.html
She can only speak like this when there is no question.
Oh oh! Palin’s Pissed! Watch out!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/In_reintroduction_Palin_to_do_more_interviews_and_tell_her_story.html?showall
Also,
Shame on you CBS! How can Palin be herself if you keep releasing things she said – oops I mean things she ‘didn’t’ say….
But seriously, what other court cases would Palin need to know? Isn’t that court case the only reason she is on the ticket?
Oy-vey!
If she wants to set the story straight, clear up the inaccuracies, don’t do interviews, don’t call Rush….Hold a freakin’ press conference and answer the reporters questions. Stand up to the mike without the preconditions of an interview and without a teleprompter. Sarah if you are such a fighter, put the teleprompter down and talk.
Scott Reed is one of McCain’s gambling buddies. There’s an excellent article on NYT’s website on McCain’s Indian Gambling history. Scott Reed is mentioned numerous times.
Yes, the powers that be are laying as many seeds as a bear defecating during fall berry season. The McCain camp’s hope is that at least one will sprout through all of the scat they are dropping on Americans.
Will it be the seed of ‘change’ (who are we kidding), the seed of ‘low expectations’ (yes), the seed of more of the same (only if the unimaginable occurs and McBushlin get elected), or will it be the old fall-back ‘family’ excuse to exit the race and save the remnants of face.
In many ways McCain/Palin share a lot in common with the Alaskan Brown Bear. They produce an inordinate amount of feces/waste come fall/election season. They produce fear. They are known to cannibalize and attack their own (other cubs/Walt Monegan).
Agreed Muck, we will know more after Thursday of which Palin will sprout through McCain’s own steamy pile of a mess in his road to the Outhouse. As an Alaskan, I can think of a hundred adjectives describing Palin and ‘overprepared’ is not ever one of them.
Dee:
as they say LMAO! You’re probably just as qualified to be PM of the Great White North.
after watching hardball tonight, and reading AKM”S comments here, it seems there is a good chance that sarah is going to go back to how she debated in the race for governor…i.e. she doesn’t HAVE to answer the questions, she just has to state she’s a hockey mom, a mother of five (including a down’s syndrome child, is pro-life, she’s just like US and is a reformer!
it was obviously effective in her run for governor, but I don’t know if it will be enough for a national election. the reasoning is that her CHARM is what wins for her, never mind actually being QUALIFIED
snowbelleNo Gravatar (14:29:48) :
“It worries me a little bit when the real news is completely indistinguishable from The Onion….”
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My thoughts exactly! I keep thinking how funny it would be if it were not true!
Reposting from the “keep Sarah quiet” thread:
This link gets you to the joint interview Couric did with SP and JM. Repeating the “gotcha” meme.
http://cbs13.com/campaign08/palin.mccain.interview.2.828612.html?detectflash=false
Sarah Palin is having a rally at the Chaifetz Arena at Saint Louis University after the debate, who do I let know so there can be a counter rally?
Dee (15:25:03) :
A flock of Canada geese just flew over my house here in PA, so I am preparing for my new job as the Prime Minister of Canada. Wish me luck.
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Rofl – you’d be welcome compared to the wooden-headed jerk in there now!
Just saw the CBS ‘interview’ with Failin and her protector, John McWayne. When did ‘privilege’ become a verb? Yet another cringe moment. Also, what’s with McDaddy Warbucks being there? Can you imagine if that were a male VP nominee? Certainly Old Dud (not to be confused with First Dud), would not be answering Katie’s questions on his VP’s behalf – how condescending and how belittling.
Re: that new CBS joint interview — I think this is a preview of the debate style. She does not actually answer a single question.
And Katie doesn’t even try to call her on it, because JM always follows up with comments of his own that draw her away from what SP said.
Sarah Palin is having a rally at the Chaifetz Arena at Saint Louis University after the debate, who do I let know so there can be a counter rally?
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Just contact the one person who will turn up to participate in Failin’s rally. Promises to be a yawner.
Shove Maggot Palin aka the problem child (16:10:43) :
Thanks for the link: Wow, McCain pissed Katie off. Did you see the look on her face when he admonished her for interrupting.
If the guy asking in Philly yelling the question was a voter, than it wasn’t an interview.
So how can they try to sell the ‘gotcha” interview questions.
The video looked like her father came to school with his daughter to straighten out the teacher. for not treating her special.
Sarah Palin is having a rally at the Chaifetz Arena at Saint Louis University after the debate, who do I let know so there can be a counter rally?
The hall is going to be filled with sand, so Sarah and her handlers have a place to stick their heads.
I caught Katie Couric with BOTH John and SWWNBN in a clip done today in Ohio where John “explains” her…and she, of course allows him to do so (sit, Fido, sit!) and concurs with him. John looked really bad in this clip—not only physically, but the condescending and dismissive and petty part of him. I felt a little dirty after watching it.
Personally I don’t think it really matters how Palin does in the debates. McCain is on very thin ice right now.
Americans have real concerns and fears right now that require real leadership. Sarah Palin was a fun diversion but I really, really doubt there is a thinking man or woman in this country that can stomach the thought of Sarah Palin being the leader of this country.
McCain is digging a hole deeper and deeper and even if Sarah Palin could pull herself EVEN in her approval rating right now. (It’s now at -10 from a post-RNC of +17) it isn’t going to do McCain much good.
But here is my thing about Palin. She may be ‘attractive’ or superficially ‘charming’ but basically deep-down she is a mean-spirited, close-minded, snide,back-stabbing b*tch! She has no warmth or inate compassion. She have never ONCE in this entire few weeks we have ‘known’ her shown one ounce of humility or just plain old-fashioned humanity.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/palin-says-shes.html
And now since she can be herself again this is the ‘real’ Sarah.
Here are her comments about Biden
There is NO way this woman will still be on the ticket come November 4th! They are getting ready to withdraw her as we speak. And then McLame gets who he wanted in the first place – Joe Lieberman.
Bets anyone?
OMFG Our Bush clone prime minister was just quoted on the CBC (like NPR, only Canadian) saying that the fundamentals of the Canadian economy remain strong!!!! He must be getting his talking points from the McCain campaign. (Our stock exchange, like yours, sunk like a rock this afternoon.)
Am preparing BINGO cards for myself & friends to take to the big Debate gathering this Thursday. Help me with phrases & key words please! I’m not creative…
bPointNo Gravatar (16:00:10) :
If she wants to set the story straight, clear up the inaccuracies, don’t do interviews, don’t call Rush….Hold a freakin’ press conference and answer the reporters questions.
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Will you just stop it?
With EVERYTHING else she’s had to do, how can she possibly learn reporters names to be able to call on them personally at a press conference????????????? Sheesh!
The “Lets straighten things out with Katie” interview is already a disaster. The only people who will not be able to see the juvenile behavior under this chat is the McCain camp, and shame on them for playing make believe.
check her profile on Linkedin:
http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=30776256
She speaks well. I heard her speak at the convention and in subsequent interviews. She demonstrates a clear thought process, grace under pressure and comfortability with herself, her convictions and the people she serves
“OOH-RAH! A VP candidate that has thoroughly renewed my interest in this campaign– a true leader in the mold of Reaginus Magnus. Is already CINC of AK National Guard, cuts spending, and fights bureaucraps. And she can handle a speech WITHOUT a teleprompter–you can BET she gets my vote!” September 9, 2008
Top qualities: Personable, Expert, High Integrity
yeah right!!!!!!!!!!
ocliberalNo Gravatar (16:21:20) : “But, I’ve been hearing about his senate speeches since I was in like second grade. ”
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You got it…the snark factor! I suspect we’ll see a lot of that, John got her started on that re-approach tonight.
Too bad she still doesn’t understand any of the content of Joe Biden’s speeches.
How many times might she say “Got ‘cha” between now and Thursday.
Shove Maggot Palin aka the problem childNo Gravatar (16:22:56) :
OMFG Our Bush clone prime minister was just quoted on the CBC (like NPR, only Canadian)
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You might want to prepare for the worst, Shove Maggot!
SMR, here are some Bingo words:
Main Street
More Troops
Absolutely!
Alaskan Airspace
Maverick
eBay
Thanks, But No Thanks!
Lobbyists
Victory
National Guard
War on Terror
Great Depression
Death Tax
Bingo Words?
How about a grand prize for the “Palin McCain” ticket
OC – you are so right about Palin! IMO – I don’t think we’ve had a more dignified and honorable Dem candidate in years, and the first words out of her mouth at the convention were so snotty and disrespectful of him. I was shocked. She doesn’t know the first thing about Obama and had the nerve to read that Republican script with such arrogant force.
Sickening then. Sickening now.
@ SMRNo Gravatar (16:27:04) :
“shore up the economy”
“hockey mom”
“Russia” she will mention that a lot
“oil and gas” she knows a lot about that too! LOL
AKM,
Your site is more up to date and complete on a virtually instant basis than anything else that I can find. TV news is strictly soundbites, and Drudge serves as a good portal to other sites, but it in itself is very right wing slanted.
Thanks for your work, much appreciated.
Cassie Jeep Pike (newly a Trout, too!) (16:36:32) :
I’ve been expecting this for a while now. That doesn’t make it any easier for me to swallow.
Sigh, what a conundrum for McCain and the Dooood. Premature withdrawal just wouldn’t be manly, would it?
a couple for the bingo:
“Myself and Senator McCain”
“If we’re blessed”
So, the bimbo has been listening to Mr. Biden since she was in grade 2, has she? How precocious she must have been. More like she failed grade one or was deemed “intellectually challenged” and started school a year late as Mr. Biden didn’t take office until January of 1973, one month before ‘Our Gal Sal” turned 9 (nine !). Not only an easy liar, but one who doesn’t ‘vet’ her own answers before inserting her little foot into her whoppin’ big mouth!
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for all of those who thought the palin baby name generator was a laugh riot, we now unveil …. dah dah dah dum!
the palin interview answer generator!
http://interviewpalin.com/
here’s a sample (warning, this has the appearance of actually being a true palin answer but it is indeed fiction, which unfortunately cannot be said of the couric interviews):
There’s no thread for this, but it’s been mentioned a couple of times today, so I’ll go with it (cuz I’m wired differently).
The House voted down the bailout bill. McCain, with the words, “I’m responsible for the bail…” caught in his throat, coughed and switched to,”I meant, Pelosi and Obama are to blame.” Markets are plunging around the world, (when do they open in Asia again? about now?) and that big, old, ugly piper has got us by the collar, feet dangling, demanding to be paid.
I looked at the vote from my state’s delegation and saw that my guy was the only one, R or D, (he’s D) to vote against it. Now that took guts. I called his office and left the message that I support his vote.
The Thursday debate is going to be on the back page, and we won’t even remember Sarah Who? if this continues. Hold onto your hats, Mudpuppies, we’re goin’ for a ride…
Also, why would Bimbo seem to denigrate Mr. Biden by insinuating his age was a factor when her own running mate is 7 years older than Mr. Biden? I noticed that Cindy Lou Who was having a little chuckle at her husband’s expense when Bimbo went on about age. Class acts ! lol
I’m leaning toward a heretofore unknown medical condition as the Palin withdrawal rationale. That would get McCain off the hook for a bad pick. And Palin would say she is putting “country first”. Win-win for the pair.
Bingo word
“My opponent”
“Our opponents”
“Gwen”–(as if she even knew who Gwen was until the debate!)
karen marieNo Gravatar (16:52:11) :
Palin answer generator—-
I have to leave for a few minutes….I’ve go to send this out to several hundred friends! Thanks for this!
antiAnti (16:53:54) :
“heretofore unknown medical condition” Like another pregnancy?
I was walking around today and I kid you not, saw 3 women ages 25-50 with Palinesque glasses! At least the eyewear people will survive the credit crunch.
Gads, what a few weeks. I liked what Obama said about Congress’s needing ‘adult supervision.’
I think, paradoxically, the vote went the way it should, in terms of the power grab, if not the markets. The plan Sweden used is ultimately what we should use.
AKM, popcorn and a few homemade Margaritas or Cosmos for me. Anyone?
More bingo words:
Commander in Chief
Drill
Pipeline
Fighter
Mortgage
I heard the networks were going to get the ghost of Rod Serling to introduce the VP debate, because we have crossed into the Twilight Zone!!
Totally off topic but there’s lots of stories and emails floating around tracing this current crisis to the Democrats back 30 years. But there’s a little known simple fact that let things get out of hand. So when you see McCain’s people regurgitating their bias you might want to mention this. So much for that diehard Republican principle about empowering the states the chart their own course.
http://www.slate.com/id/2182709/
Derugulation actually started during the Nixon administration and has snowballed since then.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hee
Just got off work late and browsed the cnn web page for news and just finished reading the “Let Palin be Palin” article on cnn and was laughing when I clicked on you AKM and just continued to laugh out loud.
By the way, it felt good.
Now . . . more work–ughh
AlaskaDisasta (16:53:30) :
I noticed that Cindy Lou Who was having a little chuckle at her husband’s expense when Bimbo went on about age. Class acts ! lol
Cindy McCain reminds me of a grown up Joan Benet Ramsey beauty contestant. Please excuse the reference to Joan Benet
Pepper, I’ll take your bet! I think there’s NO WAY Sarah Palin can drop out at this point. The only reason McCain is doing as well as he is (and that’s not saying much) is because the Republican base is excited about Palin. If she leaves the ticket and he picks Lieberman, those right-wingers are gone. McCain knew he couldn’t pick Lieberman from the outset because there was going to be a revolt at the Republican Convention. If he changes horses (er, maybe mooses?) mid-stream, that will be tantamount to admitting that he has terrible judgment, as if that’s not obvious already. I think we’re all stuck with Palin. I’m actually OK with that now because I think she’s clearly a drag on the ticket, which means…OBAMA/BIDEN ’08!
That said, I do think McCain has got plenty of other Hail Mary stunts he can pull. That man has no shame.
I do agree with the sentiment that Palin is over-coached. Whenever I watch McCain and see him plaster a smile on his face and start blinking, then I know he’s really angry. He looks like on old-school, high school football coach who’s watching a bad pass from his quarterback turn into an interception and is telling himself with all his might that he can’t lose it. In the Stephanopoulos interview on Sunday McCain was grimacing and batting his eyes in joy over Palin. Maybe over-coaching is an insufficient term: Maybe it’s McCain cursing her out, bossing her around, and second guessing her that’s making her lose her mojo. She’s probably getting one message from aides and another message (or two, or three) from McCain. Okay, plus she doesn’t know jack.
I’m by no means an apologist for McPain, but Palin didn’t get this far without being smart and tough. However Palin’s experience is still like taking the smartest kid from a tiny high school who’s used to winning all the awards and honors and dumping her at Harvard Law School and saying “edit the law review!”. It’s a nasty learning curve. And she’s got better aptitude in sports than law.
I think if Palin comes out swinging, IGNORES Gwen Ifill, spouts memorized lines, and REFUSES to clarify any statement she’s made that she stands a chance to look good in the debate. And Biden must channel Obama and take the absolute high road with her. Palin looks particularly bad when she attempts to clarify herself or do any explaining. She’s got the cute, perky, spunky thing down pat and could probably throw a few good zingers at Biden if given an opening. But I think she’s not used to having to explain herself or be questioned. She can’t exactly fire reporters after she’s agreed to being interviewed, so being questioned by them and not being able to get away with a pat, cute statement or not fire them must be freaking her out.
And the “I can see Russia from my house” issue has absolutely gotten into her head. I don’t know: Maybe they’ll make her see a therapist. Or a hypnotist. Or bring in Muthee and scare the witchcraft away from her. I think during the Couric interview she was planning to make light of the “Russia from my house” issue, stumbled on the word “caricature”, then got pissed, turned away from Couric, and then chewed at the word “mock” that Couric threw at her as a life line. Sarah cannot laugh at herself. But she can go into attack mode.
SP: “if Americans…privilege us…” (from 9/29 Couric interview with McCain & Palin)
Silly me…I didn’t realize “privilege” was now a verb. I doubt there are any language translators who could possibly translate her spoken words. Heck, we Americans could use a translator of our own to help understand what she said to Katie Couric last week!
White Agate I was walking around today and I kid you not, saw 3 women ages 25-50 with Palinesque glasses!
Here’s a Bingo word: Ronald Reagan. Never fails!
Guys…and Gals,
You know it is scary way down here in the 48. But we hope the snow-boogie doesn’t trudge back to Wasilla too soon. I’d hate to see her dropped (which McCain would do in a 72 year old heartbeat if he thought it would get him more votes). They might pick somebody who actually makes voters think, hmmm, I feel safer.
I hope she does well enough in the debates to scuttle that idea.
Ok, something weird is going on here. Watching Countdown tonight I saw several clips of McCain and Palin at their rally today. And who was on stage with them? Bristol Palin! No Cindy, no “first Dude”, just McCain, Palin and Bristol Palin. Same with their handshaking deal after their speech. And as far as I can see, Bristol doesn’t look pregnant. She looks like someone who recently gave birth (large boobs and pregnancy weight still around the middle). Why was Palin stumping with her daughter and not with her husband?
I thought I saw her with Willow yesterday, not Bristol.
Palmdale:
“What makes people willing to vote for McCain? He has an “R” after his name, and for some people, that’s all that matters.”
In the State of Washington, the Repugnant (R) candidate for Governor, has had the election commission print up ballots with “favors the GOP” beside his name. Apparently, he figures to distance himself from Bush in this fashion, and capture the disenchanted who would never vote for a Democrat, but would never support a Republican either. He must think that the voters are as dumb as he is.
Ron
How to hold a rally, cont. (sorry, hit button!)
Get a bunch of friends together over coffee: make a clever flyer or two anouncing the where, why and when. Make a bunch of copies and disperse widely – it’s likely you know your local fav lib hangouts: coffee shops, cafes, organic foods, etc. If you can, just leave a pile for the taking (that was my first notice)
Write up a press release and distribute; if you are very lucky, there will be hate-rants and possibly name calling on right-wing radio. Make sure you listen and report any abuse – now you’ve go a real news story, and maybe MSM will cover it. BTW, use a disposable Track phone as a contact; do not use your home phone no.
Use email to notify all your friends, encourage sign making.
Choose your location to provide lots of parking.
Enjoy being surrounded by people who think just like you.
gobama: How to hold a rally:
I was proud to participate in Anchorage’s She Doesn’t Speak For Us rally here two weeks ago. From my observations on how this wildly successful gathering happened, I offer the following advice:
Get a bunch of friends together over coffee: make a clever flyer or two anouncing the where, why and when. Make a bunch of copies and disperse widely – it’s likely you know your local fav lib hangouts: coffee shops, cafes, organic foods, etc. If you can trust the place, just leave a pile for the taking (that was my first notice)
Write up a press release and distribute; if you are very lucky, there will be hate-rants and possibly name calling on right-wing radio. Make sure you listen and report any abuse – now you’ve go a real news story, and maybe MSM will cover it. BTW, use a disposable Track phone as a contact; do not use your home phone no.
Use email to notify all your friends, encourage sign making.
Choose your location to provide lots of parking.
Enjoy being surrounded by people who think just like you.
i wrote a comment and then thought better of it.
i may be advanced in years but i am still enjoying learning!
Although I am already decide that I will vote for Obama, I still answered this questionnaire designed to help the undecided. I really liked it and thought I would share:
http://votehelp.org
watching them both with Couric this evening was painful….. for Couric. And at the end, I had the same sentiment as many of you: Papa was defending his little girl and the grin on her face was…well, just sick. Can you say, “Couch time needed?”
And look at her recently. That little lilt is gone, that quick brightness is gone, she’s aging before our eyes. She knows she’s in over her head now. It can’t be painless to watch yourself read notecards and suddenly blurt out “JOBS!!” when talking about the bail out. Pathetic.
ocliberal (15:48:36) :
Oh oh! Palin’s Pissed! Watch out
I worry about that that charged pitbull that they are thinking of unleasing…whose brilliant idea was that?
Lets let Sarah off of her lease and see what happens!
Priceless
Wouldn’t it be something if Sarah surprises us ALL and actually beats Biden?
Yeah right! That was a funny thought for a while, I mean what if the next day everyone is raving about Sarah being so brilliant and who would have thunk it?
I saw someone today while watching Chris Mathews show who said that all she needs to do is reach the people, just tune out Biden and the moderator and just be herself talking about her being the mother of five kids and all. What do you think, will that win you over and convince you that she is the one in who’s hands we should place our nation?
As to the debate, isn’t it the moderators job the keep the answers on track with the questions?
“It’s time to let Palin be Palin — and let it all hang out,” said Scott Reed, a Republican strategist.
Did it seem to y’all that McCain was letting her be Palin in the Katie interview tonight?
I tell you, if I were McCain after treating her the way he did tonight in that interview, I’d be sleeping with the Secret Service. If she’s not seething, I’ve really read her wrong.
grumpyNo Gravatar (16:59:55) :
I heard the networks were going to get the ghost of Rod Serling to introduce the VP debate, because we have crossed into the Twilight Zone!!
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Good SNL idea.
This lady is pretty good too!
Gov. Palin Vlog #16: TATTOO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMxjomBUm30
You just watch. . .if Palin makes it to the debate ( I still think there is a ‘Razzle Dazzle’ up McCain’s crooked sleeve ), but if she gets there and doesn’t do so great (and we all know that’s coming ), the McCain goons will find some way to blame it on Gwen Ifill (the moderator) and her preference for Obama. Even though she’s debating Biden they’ll find a way to play the race card. You know how McGrumpy likes gambling. McCrime won’t do it directly – but you know there are some who will. I heard she’s ( Ifill ) already getting some serious flack.
I’ve made myself sick . . . .
Maybe “WE” should hire a witchdoctor.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/mccain-palin-joint-interv_n_130412.html
you MUST watch this. Twice. look at how the old man’s jaw clenches when she repeats Obama’s stance on Pakistan. Just watch how they interact. He definitely wants her to shut up.
And he looks at her chest a lot… a lot.
And what is UP with the bottom of his tie? I think it would have been better to let it go ahead and cover his *ack* package.
katiebegood (17:30:00)
It was Willow. They look the same..but Willow is a little bit shorter
On the bailout
Chris Matthews’ is blaming McCain
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/matthews-on-mccains-faile_n_130309.html
Commentary on the bailout.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/29/miron.bailout/index.html
I have to say I am really looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate! That is really going to be a show stopper!! The plan to Suspend the Campaign until the dire financial crises is averted, failed!! How incredibly lame!
Finally the congress is shaking in their boots at how many Americans called their congress people and said “no, we are not going to rescue businesses that exercised poor judgement”! Apparently the calls were 200 -1 against the bailout! I know the freezing of credit is going to be difficult, but I really feel in the long run the stabilization will come quicker once the really heavily leveraged banks are dissolved.
So Biden/Palin will be some much needed entertainment come Thursday!
@Worried in Virginia
‘Privilege’can be used as a verb too. Sad but true.
Couric interview: SP was very cool and collected, while Mc was fidgety. Huh. She didn’t really say anything of substance, but the debates are won on tactics too.
She was chosen because she is a hottie, with a command of home spun humor, sports talk and Fundie creds. Who would that appeal to?
Biden will still mop the floor with her.
(I suffered Mudflats withdrawal all day today at work. Better now.)
Read it a while back. Enjoyed, and then thought nothing more of it. Turns out it generated a real sheetstorm.
http://news.spreadit.org/thats-all-we-have-for-now-on-heather-mallick-cbc-palinheather-mallick-sarah-palin-blast/
I think they (McCain, Rovian Schmidt, etc.) are all plotting at how to get rid of Sarah and beg Romney to be VP after the vote today on the bailout and the debate Thursday. Democrat, I be, but I know Romney has more financial smarts in one finger than in McCain’s head. In the past few weeks Every…thing, everything, has gone wrong for the McCain/Palin ticket and she, after consenting due to her own hubris to be the nominee, making unforgivable gaffs, and now the realization of the electorate that they would rather have Tina Fey for VP, has sent the campaign into meltdown. She has been sacrificed on John McCain’s ego; she will be the sacramental lamb of the Republican Party. She will never be invited back to Sedona again.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/09/29/zakaria.sarah.palin/index.html
…”CNN: What did you initially think when Sarah Palin was announced as the Republican vice presidential nominee?
Zakaria: I was a bit surprised — as I think most people were. But I was willing to give her a chance. And I thought her speech at the convention was clever and funny. But once she began answering questions about economics and foreign policy, it became clear that she has simply never thought about these subjects before and is dangerously ignorant and unprepared for the job of vice president, let alone president…”
I flunked my test–I must have been overprepared.
mark my words….sarah will steer AWAY from actually answering questions…..be in ATTACK mode on obama….talk about hockey mom’s/mother of handicapped child/pro-life/just like “us” and mumble mumble about reform and the “maverick” and smile and look pretty…….and yes, repubs will declare that a “win”
don’t you get it? if you have a BRAIN…you are “elitist”
Sarah, just hang in there!
We need you to explode into the face of McCain just a few days before the elections.
Be fair with Sarah and keep her in the race !!!!
Jo, please go easy on her. If it gets to national security, talk about how she chased back the Russian moose crossing the frozen Baring straits. Let her tell the true story how she and Todd hunted dinosaurs to extinction.
Nothing complicated, please, at least for the time being. Then simply wipe off the lipstick.
as for who I feel sorry for….(besides her 5 children)…it would be Todd…..what on earth is he doing with himself these days? no more yahoo emails….no more being having much to offer on this political roller-coaster. he’s relegated to being first-dude of a VP…not a lot of influence there…cuz if you think Mccain’s lawyers/managers are managing alaska…they must be ALL over todd!! poor dude! go home and take care of those kids, todd!
Ripley_6 AKA Copper Catfish P. (18:11:56) :
I just watched that video clip. OMG! I thought McCain was going to lose it!
@ Deb: Wouldn’t it be funny if Todd Palin got into it with John McCain over Sarah? I’d pay to see that fight.
Bingo words:
small town
ultimately (“olltimately”)
so blessed
Putin
shore up the economy
“Fannie and Freddie”
snark
General Petraeus
visiting soldiers reference
terrorist “who would seek to destroy”
America “and her allies”
In what respect, Gwen (do we dare to hope??)
AKMuckraker
Off topic but a question nevertheless…..
Are the candidates allowed to wear ear pieces to be given info while at the podium while debating? If not then how do we know that they are complying?
Also do they know the questions in advance?
Thanks,
Avril
What is going to be funny this week, is when Katie Couric gets even with John McCain for being condescending. The editor is mightier than McCain. Do not be surprised by what is not edited from this weeks interview, and what might show up from last weeks CBS interview.
Then McCain/Palin will know what “Gotcha” journalism really is.
bingo words
oil
Russia
border
oil
caricaturemockreadiness
ill
oil
energy
reformer
20 percent
oil
POW
DeeNo Gravatar (15:42:16) :
You know, just because I’m paranoid, doesn’t mean “they” are not out to get me, but have you ever really wondered why in the name of all that is holy, he chose her in the first place? I mean there’s Kay Baily Hutchison and several others with the “woman” thing going for them who would have been better choices. I am deeply suspicious of “these guys” and am constantly waiting for the “other shoe to drop”. I mean. let’s face it, Karl Rove may be evil, but he is a genius when it comes to political trickery.
And this has been such a roller coaster, I fear that there may be some underlying sneaky crap afoot.
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Dee,
I am PARANOID right there with you. For those of us who have been around long enough to watch elections play out, we know that ANYTHING GOES from now until November 4th! S C A R Y !
We are gonna have a debate watch party in Elkton, Oregon. I’ll have moose stew (alright elk chili) and deleware crab cakes and voodoo dolls. Whichcraft attire is a must.
No, No, No. No problem.
“I am ready….should we be so blessed as to be elected and sworn into the White House.”
“The problem, everyone knows, is Gotcha journalism.”
As when a constituent asks a question in public and she has to answer it in public. Dang that “Gotcha journalism”. It is so unfair!
WOW. I am encouraged by the plummeting polls that things will continue to go badly for her and McCain, but as we know, polls don’t always lead us in the right direction. I am terrified she will end up in the White House! At least you Alaskans are close to Canada up there…
Palin is over prepared?? Are you kidding? Over prepared with what? Preparation-H?
Good lord but Tina Fey nearly verbatim’d her and it was hilarious.
Too bad real life with Sarah Palin ain’t nearly half as fun or funny.
I’ve become a conspiracy theorist! OMG!
Someone on one of the threads asked what happened behind the scenes that caused McCain to select SP.
OK, so SP reports Randy Ruedrich, the chair of the Alaskan Rethug Party, because he is conducting party business from a State Office. She knew exactly what she was doing and did it to position herself for a ‘run’ at something. She probably wasn’t sure what at that point. Randy loses his job, pays a fine, but won’t resign the Rethug chairmanship.
She gets elected Gov (without Randy’s help) and tries every which way she can to get rid of old Randy. He won’t resign. The FBI shows up, investigates a bunch of the good old boys and indicts the carp out of a bunch of them. SP has no direct role in any of it but is gleeful and happy to take credit.
Randy has some clout with the RNC. He convinces them that if they run Sarah as the VP, that Congressman Don Young (under investigation) and Senator Ted Stevens (currently on trial for a felony) will stand a better chance of winning relection this fall. The coat tail effect and believe me, the polls here show both of them leading their democrat challengers. Unbelievable but true.
The Rethugs would rather have failed and corrupt politicians win in November than Democrats. If they are both convicted and forced to resign, there must be a new election and at least the rethugs have an opportunity to hold on to those seats.
Randy gets rid of Sarah, Don and Ted’s seats are at least retrievable, and best yet….the remaining good old boys network is intact and Sarah-proof for at least four years.
Sheesh….it’s almost believable.
Get serious folks. What about a McCain/Palin Supreme Court for 4 years!
Oh to be the worm with big ears in the tequila bottle at debate camp.
I think she will mention world peace and eliminating poor people, ah no, hunger and poverty. That’s about as foreign as policy can get.
No need to tell me worms don’t have ears. They don’t have eyes either. Actually they don’t have brains. They do have mouths however. Has Sarah sucked up a lot of knowledge in debate college?
bingo words:
job creation
reign in spending
pork
Strive On, friends….
@ds55 (19:11:21) :
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@ Deb: Wouldn’t it be funny if Todd Palin got into it with John McCain over Sarah? I’d pay to see that fight.>>>
…Me too !
LOL – love the hilarious names people are coming up with for Toad, I mean, Turd, I mean Todd, the First Dud, er, Dweeb, um, Dude. Thanks for the larfs!
“For his part, Mr. Palin has worried about the frequent separation of his wife from her family, friends and Alaska staff, an adviser said.”
Reality sucks, Dude.
@ MNGma (18:45:02) :
“She has been sacrificed on John McCain’s ego; she will be the sacramental lamb of the Republican Party.”
I agree, although I think she WILLINGLY “sacrificed” herself, i.e., she voluntarily chose to be part of the Republican ticket. As you say, due to her blind hubris, Palin exposed herself to the difficulties and intricacies of national politics. Every choice has consequences, both positive and negative. It’s better to think – i mean blink – before making those big decisions
re: paranoia
1) Consider that moderate Republicans like Olympia Snowe & Susan Collins, and some conservative ones (like Kay Bailey Hutchison) don’t say much strongly (if anything) that I can find in support of Gov. Palin.
2) But even various conservative pundits (like George Will, David Brooks and Kathleen Parker) seem to be worried about her.
3) BUT, (and this is purest speculative paranoia), is there a set of people who would *like*
a) McCain/Palin to win, but McCain to become ill.
b) And Palin to become President.
I.e., are there any people who would find it easier to “advise” Palin rather than McCain?
Are there any people who prefer being the “power behind the throne” rather than on it? [If one studies histories of monarchies, quite often there have been regents who really ran things on "behalf of" minor kings.]
Mogul asks… what planet are the Palins from?
Why… they must be from Uranus.
musingsinWA (19:59:09) :
“For his part, Mr. Palin has worried about the frequent separation of his wife from her family, friends and Alaska staff, an adviser said.”
Reality sucks, Dude.
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Maybe Todd Palin was hoping that as VP, Sarah could work from Alaska and collect the per diem.
SMR – bingo word: evil
The separation from family and friends? Well, ok. But her Alaska Staff? So… are they the ones who she normally channels?
She’s proven she can read form a teleprompter. She used color coded note cards for her debates in Alaska. She was over-prepared for her interviews with Gibson and Couric (I won’t stoop to label what Hannity did an interview)… So, can someone please tell me who the REAL Sara is? If she was over-prepared, God help us all! I’m delighted that our TV is set up so I can listen to the sound with the picture off. Will be an interesting comparison. From what I’ve heard and read, she’s made it a long way on looks and charm. No visuals might offer a REAL interesting experience.
@ JM (20:09:51) : Karl Rove would love to have a President Palin he could control from the shadows.
” Why was Palin stumping with her daughter and not with her husband?”
Well Katiebegood, **SOMEONE** has to run the AK Governor’s office….
@Lana
Gwen Ifill is ‘good friends’ with Condi Rice. She won’t be that tough; jobs are still tough out there, despite Pubbie welfare.
SMR – bingo word: evil
Ripley_6 Thanks for the video – had to laugh at mccain saying how fired up the repubs are as numbers of them are saying that palin is not ready and should withdraw!
Katie Couric – Total and complete congratulations to her for not reaching over and throttling mccain when he said that snide comment about journalists. The payback for that one should be priceless and we should all send a comment to Couric in congratulations on her restraint! Trying to get a straight answer out of these people is impossible – they are masters of deflection and assault.
Anyone remember the SNL skit where Bush 41 congratulates Shrub on winning the Presidency and wishes him the best of luck over the next four years? And Bush43 says
DADDY! You didn’t tell me it was for FOUR YEARS!!!
Who told First Dud? Are we sure SWWNBN knows? This should definitely be the first question on Thursday.
re: Todd Palin – I believe that Sarah is incapable of the level of thought process needed to run ANYTHING, be it state, city, or family. But she is also narcissistic and vain and MUST be in the spotlight. So Todd, I think, has been covering for her ever since they got married–in their family, in the mayor’s office, and in the governor’s office. Although I do not see him as “the power behind the throne,” I think he has been monitoring everything she does and making sure that she doesn’t completely bomb at it– making sure that she appears to be minimally competent. Now that they are separated physically, there is no one to rescue her, and her lack of intelligence is showing. He was able to keep it somewhat hidden until she decided to run for VP.
from the get-go there is something about sarah that has bothered me. granted, I am an “older”woman with four grown children…and while I am a feminist…I have always tried to keep priorities in check. I just sent this off to Mccain/palin….but to me, it represents the problems I have with sarah…not as a republican…but as a woman and a mother.
Dear Sarah,
I am writing as a mother of four BEAUTIFUL grown children (my youngest is now 27). I was lucky enough to be married to a man who was a wonderful “provider” when my children were growing up, and that allowed me the “luxury”, even though I had a Master’s degree in a profession was in high demand, to make that choice to allow me to stay at home on a part- time basis to raise children(not as glamorous as running for VP, I know). As the children came and grew, their activities/schooling/teaching became paramount in our lives. (Other than the challenge of having twins, we had four children born without physical or mental challenges)
As the children grew, over the years (with four children that is a LOT of years), I was a T-ball mom, a soccer mom, a ballerina mom, a music mom, a drama mom, and a religious-education mom. In other words, I was there for ALL four of my children and those significant activities/interests/moments in their lives. I read where you were a hockey mom…I assume that was with Track. What are Bristol’s, Piper’s, oh my gosh….the middle one seems to be lost all together …oh yes, Meghan’s, and what will be, Trig’s interests? You obviously have five children and yet you are JUST a “hockey mom”? Do you think by labeling yourself as a “hockey mom” you have ignored/diminished the other interests/activities of your other four children?
All of those “blessed” years I had with my four children while they were growing up, allowed me the time to instill in them the values that I hold dear–we are ALL equal and respect and value those differences among us, don’t make excuses for you not stepping up to a task, make good choices (I am there for you when the “choice” isn’t clear, to GUIDE you, not to DICTATE), education (in whatever form it takes) makes you a better person)….I could go on and on. To me…and I think if you asked EACH of my four children…the most important thing for ME and for them was that they ALL knew I was there for them. Sure, I balanced part-time work and a not-so happy marriage. And to this day I know I did not do all that I COULD have done to be a better parent. But, I tried to be there. I’m not running for VP….but that is my legacy I was THERE for them. So when you say you are a mother of 5 children and yet, JUST a hockey mom…and your CHOICE , as you said, made “without blinking”, is to run in a campaign which pretty much IGNORES the four children who do NOT play hockey, I have a problem with that.
I am also an educator. That is my profession. That is my love. Call me a “maverick”. And it is not popular to be a maverick these days, but the SINGLE most important factor in a child’s education is the influence of a parent. (and note, I did NOT say TWO parents). I realize that today we have many one-parent families today trying to balance it all…..and I feel for that, and understand that. That’s why we need LEADERS, we need WOMEN/MOTHERS/PARENTS to stand up and say …….the SINGLE most important thing we can do to raise the bar, educationally, for our children is to BE THERE as parents! (By the way, unless you can afford it, that does NOT mean shipping them off to a private school. Most of us cannot afford private school even WITH vouchers) You do not represent that model to me…..and you are not a “single” mother trying to balance it all! You have the “choice”…..and it is clear what your choice is! I see LOTS of upper middle class families choosing career over being there for their children…and somehow, the public schools are to blame for this CHASM in child-rearing!!! I see MANY poor/lower class families who, because of economics, are FORCED to work two and three jobs (per parent) to make ends meet and you are the role model—choose work over family. The single most effective way to fix education in this county is to fix the great disparity between rich and poor!! It has NOTING to do with public education. My four children, who I brag about so unashamedly, are the product of public education. ALL are college graduates. Three have post-grad degrees, and the fourth is finally working towards it. Two are working BEYOND Master’s degrees.
I am blessed. I have four beautiful children, all of whom graduated from high school, went on to college, graduated…and are married or soon to be married. I saw your interview with Katie where you seemed to “scorn” those of us who would encourage our children to look beyond the horizon. (All 4 of my children had passports before 6th grade, and we were MIDDLE class) I am STILL middle class… (Although your running mate and his calculation of “wealth” would call me “poor”) and STILL would encourage the students I work with to look BEYOND their horizon’s and BEYOND where they are and yes, even get a passport!
But, Sarah, from a mother of four children….to a mother of FIVE (which includes a special needs child) I challenge you to be a ROLE MODEL….for education, for family values and for integrity. Then you would have this woman’s vote. TIMING!!
Sincerely,
Deb
Bingo word -
Executive experience
Whomever came up with First Dud, you get my vote!
addendum to the above…as a mother with FIVE children…you can’t JUST be a “hockey” mom….
and you can’t tout “family values” while ignoring your children while on a VP campaign….
“So, that’s how a market crash, particularly because of a credit crisis will effect you.
And that is what our lawmakers, in all their political posturing about ’saving Wall Street’ have either failed to convey to everyone, or don’t understand themselves.”
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Fawnskin, you are so right to post this here. Everyone who called or pressured their reps in government, as well as the reps themselves should see this.
It is so clearly explained. So, please, send this to as many people as possible.
Thanks for your effort.
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old rancher, whose hand was caught in the gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Palin and her bid.
The old rancher said, “Well, ya know, Palin is a ‘Post Turtle’.”
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘Post Turtle’ was.
The old rancher said, “When you’re driving down a country road you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘Post Turtle’.”
The old rancher saw the puzzled look on the doctor’s face so he continued to explain.
“You know she didn’t get up there by herself, she don’t belong up there, she don’t know what to do while she’s up there, and you just wonder what kind of dummy put her up there to begin with.”
Ok ~ according to Bloomberg.com
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aH6Cz4OKDh.U
Lehman Brokerage Lost $400 Billion in Assets Before Bankruptcy – so if ONE company can loose $400 Billion in basically 6 months, then how in blazes do they figure $700 Billion will help? Am believing the $700Billion is only for this QUARTER. And “the market” would be back with hands out before New Years for another “donation”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5PS6bNiD5U
I just wanted to again thank you for all the great information. I plugged your new site on my blog. I’m sure all three of my readers will come check you out!
Nicki
Wichita, KS
Nicki @ Mindsay
I am really happy this has happened on GW’s watch ~~ bet they were trying to keep it buried till AFTER the election…..
Yanno… I’m a non-political foreigner grubbing away quietly in the backwoods swamps of Minnesota after a decade of grubbing away quietly in the backwoods mountains of Arizona. As a resident but not citizen, I’m not allowed to vote. Not that I could remember what the difference between Republicans and Democrats is anyway, or who’s who in politics at large. TV service isn’t in my poor-people budget or among my desired distractions from life as pertains to me either. In short, I’m not into politics and have very little knowledge of or interest in the topic.
Enter Palin. She’s got me hooked, but much less in her capacity as a potential VP than from a more personal standpoint.
There’s the fear that she might actually get to go where she wants to go – McCain does after all have a lot of people on his side – which I see as a horror story in the making. Danger, red alert, the works. Not so much because of her current lack of qualifications, but because she’s got what it takes to be big bomb and red button and ready finger combined. If you ask me, Palin is a very unstable and unsafe package.
Then there’s my very own feeling of having been betrayed – citizen or not, I’ve made a home in this country for some 18 years and my flag ain’t frizzed, and when I’m presented with a potential VP who, without blinking, in less than a month, proves herself to be less qualified for the job than I was as city clerk (and boy, did I stink at it), then I feel like The Big Guy(s) pulled the wool over my eyes. Deliberately, too. Deceivingly. Trying to sell me a French poodle for a working dog. I resent that.
For her own part, I feel towards Palin like I’d feel towards any “Hochstapler” – a con man, swindler, whatever the correct translation may be. Someone like the fake Rockefeller, Mr. Gerhartsreiter. Palin breezed onto the national scene full of claims about her accomplishments and abilities and qualifications, arrogant and cocksure, radiating the conviction that she’s in her rightful place on the way to the White House. Now that she herself, with her own words, has collapsed her house of cards, I can’t help snickering. It’s a nasty thing to do, but Gawd, I can’t help it. I like it when the holier-than-thou and the moose-shootinger-than-thou and the pitbullier-than-thou and especially selfish con (wo)men crash and burn. It’s a justice thing. I like justice.
And I like the truth. Aside from the fact that a presidential race and truth have never been in the same basket, there are guidelines to follow, IMO. Palin and her camp went way too far out of line as those guidelines go, and frankly, you don’t have to be in a particular political camp to see that.
I’m adding my voice (if not my unauthorized signature and voting mark) to those who ask for her accountability for past misdeeds and her return to – oh my… poor Alaska… is it ok to wish for her slinking back to Alaska? It seems unfair to Alaska. But lacking a better idea, that’s what I ask for.
Q. Can anyone tell me why…any thinking, caring, normal non-crazy person…would vote for that nasty, old banty rooster with Napoleon syndrome..John McCain?
A. Those would be the Village Idiots, in and out of the closet racists, far rights voting only on the abortion issue, people who don’t bother to read and find out the truth for themselves, people who hold up Country First signs but are too blind to see he means ME FIRST, people who have never been in or near or even know what poverty means, and people who vote for a president based on things like “I’m going to vote for Bush because I think I could bring him home to dinner!” and a vice-president because “She’s a mother just like me!!”
In DC we call them Republicans. In Philly during the last election large numbers of fliers were found in the inner city neighborhoods that said “Due to the large turnout of voters expected, republican’s will vote on Tuesday and democrats will vote on Wednesday. But be warned, if you owe childcare payments, you may be arrested at the polls.”
(BTW – That first quote was exact, from a woman in Ohio, televised on National News, from the last election.)
I’m guessing maybe he should take her to dinner now, she probably needs it.
OK. The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens went into Overtime on Monday Night Football. It was not a pretty finesse game. It was a heavyweight fight. The Steelers were terrible in the first half. But they fought back. At the coin toss for the Overtime with the energies deadlocked, I took a moment to check the Mudflats and go into cosmic flash meditation mode. The Spirit of the Wolf Mother came upon me in the a vision of the void of endless snow pack and majestic forested ridge lines of the Great White North. I said reveal to me and then to everyone on Mudflats the strategy for the debate in terms of the Overtime play by whoever wins. With kudos to the Baltimore fans here on Mudflats in their valiant loss, this is what came to me:
To achieve going to Overtime It came down to a “test of vision” on seeing the entire field in the 4th Quarter. Roethlisberger has been here before. He found his receivers in the clutch. Baltimore Rookie Joe Flacco played brilliantly in the first half but he could not see the field to the same degree as experienced Big Ben as the intensity level went up at the end.
Esoteric Translation For the Debate #1: Joe Biden can see the true “field of vision” in the world. Sarah Palin does not have full vision of the field of the world. She does not have enough game experience to sense the flow of energies. She has never thought about any of the pressing big issues in the world right now. She does not understand the nuance of DOWN and DISTANCE. She cannot call the right plays in specific situations. Joe Biden must exploit this. He must force her to call a play in a specific down and distance situation. He must force her to make a specific statement on specific situations in the world.
The Steelers stayed in the game to achieve Overtime because of a devastating hot head penalty cheap shot by a Baltimore player that led to the Steelers keeping a drive alive that led to a go ahead score.
Esoteric Translation For the Debate #2: Joe Biden must patiently wait for her to try one of her cheap shots in her arrogant weakness. (For example: “I was in second grade when Joe Biden started giving speeches…”) If she succumbs to one of these ignorant un-Presidential cheap shot idiocies at any time in the debate, Joe must exploit it by IMMEDIATELY getting a first down and throwing deep on her. He must do this swiftly for a devastating game changer score. He must totally exploit every idiotic cheap shot she tries to inflict.
The Steelers held Baltimore in Overtime on their first series, got the ball back, and won on their solid existing kicking game by inches.
Esoteric Translation For the Debate #3: Obama is steady in his presentation. He did well in the first debate. He has two more. His longer, much more coherent political ads during the game tonight were much more steady and informative than McCain’s shorter ads. He must keep this kicking game steady. In contrast, Joe Biden must go into full attack mode once Sarah Palin starts to make fatal mistakes. Every gaffe and every idiot cheap shot mistake she makes on the real play calling on down and distance on the world playing field, must be ruthlessly exploited by using turn around jujitsu on her own energy. It must finally be depicted as blood on the snow. None of her buzz words and robotic talking points must be allowed to be sufficient. She must be forced to call a play in front of sixty million people and have her highly specific play call being shut down, nullified, and sacked by her own lack of vision in seeing the true playing field of the world.
Thus sayeth the Spirit of the Wolf Mother in terms of the Steelers Overtime Esoteric Cosmic Symmetry Win.
Where I work, we call this kind of esoteric analysis to try to Divine business solutions “footballization”. When my CIO boss needs to decide something, his wife (she works there too) says for me to go and “footballize it” with her husband. She knows that “footballization” takes the stress out of him and he always finds a solution on our walks. Somehow GWB missed this kind of cosmic insight with his mere Harvard MBA training. But it works for us as devoted Steeler fans. It works every time. We have gone from nothing to $55 million in revenues as a start-up in the same economy everyone else is facing.
So if you are reading this Joe, here is perhaps a strategy to consider from the Mudflats in my interpretation of the Cosmic Message from the Spirit of the Wolf Mother by divining using the insights of “footballization.”
Yes. I know the market dropped 700 points today. The bill is in deadlock. Who knows what tomorrow will bring? But tonight we got the win. We will face tomorrow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZx3ZH7GUtE
kathi- I remember that in the last election…and now the rethugs in missouri are accusing obama of suppression of free speech!
<—believes in a lot of old adages…”what goes around comes around” , “the truth shall set you free”, “karma”, etc etc
the rethugs don’t like this turn in the election…and we shall hear wailing and gniashing of teeth until nov 4th!
Yes, we can!
I think this great northern couple should be crowned…
“The First Dud and the Hookey Mom”
He’s a tad ‘not working’ and she’s a tad ‘not there’.
Whoever talked about SP using the debate to paint herself as “Just one of y’all” sounds like s/he may be right. Just watched Hardball…Rep Strategist suggested that what SP needed to do to score in the debate was: “Talk about being a hockey mom, having five kids, job, challenges of unwed teenage daughter, etc. etc. “so she can let people know that she can identify with them.” Yikes! Not again!
Joe needs to stay on topic re McFibbyBriches and leave lots of time for SP to fill. She does so well with white noise (as shown by Katie).
Keep up the good work!
Unfortunately, if Obama gets elected, which I think he will, it means four years of nasty, vile hatred spewing from the likes of Bill All-Riled-Up, Rush Lowbrow, and Snippity & Prunes. The Stepfords of the Rethugs don’t like to lose and have no qualms about dirtying their own nest (their country). They have taken the median behaviour in the United States down to the ‘bully boy” level – just not the type of people you’d want to call friends.
JustPat– I saw that on hardball.. I love Joe…and he has WAAAY more brains than sarah….but in this case…it’s not a matter of brains…it’s a matter of joe giving her MORE rope to hang herself with! i.e what do YOU think, sarah? (we all know Joe can pick up the slack after she stumbles and falls ANY time thereafter)
Thanks for the Laugh AlaskaDisasta —
AlaskaDisasta (21:31:58) :
I think this great northern couple should be crowned…
“The First Dud and the Hookey Mom”
He’s a tad ‘not working’ and she’s a tad ‘not there’.
and I a personal note — sure glad we closed our loan today !!!
yay for loan today enjay! next week may be too late….but, so much for McCain and “non-partisan” politics
DebNo Gravatar (18:55:24) :
mark my words….sarah will steer AWAY from actually answering questions…..be in ATTACK mode on obama….talk about hockey mom’s/mother of handicapped child/pro-life/just like “us” and mumble mumble about reform and the “maverick” and smile and look pretty…….and yes, repubs will declare that a “win”
don’t you get it? if you have a BRAIN…you are “elitist”
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I am betting you’re spot on with your description of the strategies Palin will use – you “elitist” you!…and of course, she’ll win!
damn me and my “elitist” middle class college education!
and I should say damn all of you for keeping me up too late another nite….come nov 5th I’m starting a 12 step mudflat addiction program (no offense to you 12-steppers out here, but I CANNOT keep this schedule after the election)
Nicki-
I’m in Kansas, too!(KC burbs) Do you mind if I link to your blog from mine? My three readers will probably read yours, too.
Steph
http://still-living-in-oz.blogspot.com/
I just read someone’s post, asking why anyone would vote for McCain.
A while back a woman I know send out a mass email about Obama. It was one of those viral mass emails that is more rumor than truth. And no one bothers to fact check before sending it on.
First let me say, she and I were always on friendly terms. We worked together and always got along socially.
The email went on to encourage the recipients to vote for McCain-Palin.
I decided to reply, and nicely explained my issues with Palin, and why I would never vote that ticket.
She sent me a long email back, which basically summed up her distrust of Obama, and his ties to terrorist, and that he was in essence out for “whitey” (her word, not mine). She then went onto say that she was willing to take a risk on Palin, because she felt Obama was so un-American.
My only response to her, was a link to a reputable site that had explained the Ayers situation.
Well recently this woman had the option of working in our office, or another across town. She chose the other. And she told one of the bosses, it was because she couldn’t work with me. The impression was that we had “gotten into it” over politics.
I was stunned. My email was friendly, and SHE was the one who opened the political discussion, not me, when she sent out the nasty Obama email.
My husband told me not to worry about it, that the woman was not the brightest.
BUT….the answer to the initial question, ignorance and bigotry is a hard nut to crack.
You’re probably one of the last lucky ones, Enjay. Time to tighten the belts and do what our grannies did – conserve, save and make do with what we have.
I have no college education
( I never even finished high school. Is there any way to be “elitist” just on account of having a brain, or am I doomed to be an enemy in Palin’s camp?
JT- racism IS rampant and all I can say is to take heart. There are those, even a cousin of mne….who leans toward racism…but when I presented her with a few of the facts about Palin, is rethinking her “republican” vote…..some issues DO trump racism
I’m beginning to think that anyone who hasn’t had a lobotomy is an ‘elitist.
Ira…just by being HERE…you are an “elitist” i.e. you are not a sheep! as I said in my earlier post….EDUCATION comes in many ways
Not sure if this has been posted or not, but all this talk of Palin being ‘wired’ for the debate and someone trying to feed her lines reminded me of this video I saw a couple days ago. It’s very funny!
Sarah Palin drives her handlers insane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQOwasqxXlA
Question..
Is it my imagination, or does McCain talk differently when he is making speeches these days? He has sort of a sing song, condescending, forced enunciation, like he is lecturing the kiddies on right and wrong.
It is like his voice is not at a natural pitch or tone.
And it sounds like someone making things up. Seriously. I am not just saying that because has said so many lies during the campaign…but his voice, tone, and manner of speaking sounds….fake.
???
Yay!! Thanks for letting me be an elitist
) This feels MUCH better.
Quick question: where can I ask some questions (about Palin, of course) without committing thread drift in a comments string?
JT…yes I’ve noticedthat….and that SMILE which isn’t really a smile…..has he had botox? I dunno….it’s all so fake!
you can ask anywhere Ira…a lot of us have been here for a very long time( wow…was aug 29th a very ong time ago?) and there is LOT”S of info on this blog about sarah…so someone likely has an answer/link for your question
Reminds me of someone who is telling a lie, and they know it is a lie, so they overdo it when making the statement, not realizing that they are making the lie more obvious.
Hey !!!
This is our anniversary everyone.
I’ve been here since Aug. 29th too
Happy Anniversary AKM & all the Mudpuppies !!!
Hmm…Ira is becoming an elitist..
As for me, I discovered over the last few weeks…
I am a Democrat.
well…I do have to go to bed…and I apologize…with the bail-out news and the debate looming….I am waaay too verbose…..I’m thinking after thursday I will calm down (our guys barack and joe will have it pretty much wrapped up ) and then I can actually NOT be typing here like someone with ADHD! thank god for mudflats!
Kewl! Thanks, Deb.
Ok, one thing I’d like to know is this: If Palin is serious about her particular brand of faith – which she appears to be – how could she possibly deal with non-Christians both inside and outside the country? Having spent an hour in an Assembly Of God service a few years ago, I’d throw in those abhorred Catholics too, but let’s keep it simple for now. How could she leave her religious convictions out of the picture when making decisions involving people or governments which she must consider Godless heathens? And if she could manage to make politically sound decisions aside from her religious convictions, wouldn’t she stand before her church fellows a lying hypocrite?
Biden with a hangover and toothache, in a full body cast, without sleep for a week could make Palin blink so fast she’ll see stars.
Kathi G – Post Turtle!! Too perfect. Now Sarah has her very own Palin name. You should start a campaign that we refer to Sarah forevermore as Post Turtle Palin.
One (of many) problem with Palin, is that she forgets that when we say something foolish, it looks far worse in print. I would have thought she had figured that out by now, considering she has been in politics for a while.
Once, when giving a deposition, they told me they had no more questions, and I replied lamely “cool.”
Well, that looked even more ridiculous typed up in the official deposition!
I received this in an email I just wanted to see what others thought about this plan. If this is what we could receive with 85 bil what would 700 bil equal.
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I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free.
So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage – housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans – what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college – it’ll be there
Save in a bank – create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car – create jobs
Invest in the market – capital drives growth
Pay for your parent’s medical insurance – health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean – or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we’re going to re-distribute wealth let’s really do it…instead of trickling out
a puny $1000.00 ( “vote buy” ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG – liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.
Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC .
And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned
instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Ahhh…I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Birk
T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
Q. and McCains manner of speaking sounds….fake.
A. ha ha, yes, more of you are noticing… my opinion, coming from an acting teacher: He does not like her. He’s stiff because he is very uncomfortable. Watch the feeds from the Convention. He knows he screwed up big time by letting the far right slip her in. He’s even snippier than usual (did ya see his remark to katie tonight – VERY rude. If Biden or Obama did that to Katie the Conserves would crucify them.) because he’s on the defensive. He doesn’t look at people he doesn’t like, very often. He glances at Palin, or watches her, but doesn’t engage with her at all.
And yes, Todd is her “handler”. How many far far right evangelical fundamentalist women with power do you know? Hardly any. But just like someone said above, she likes the limelight (beauty queen, tv journalist, public office) and they needed a front “woman” to get all the PTA mom’s to line right up. First “Dud” likes the power too. The really scary thing is, Who is giving Todd Boy orders? Because I don’t see a great enough brain power, common sense, or education to be able to do anything by themselves.
There are many people in the world who are very smart, and they don’t have to have a degree, but they have to have common sense and the ability to see different points of view and accept different points of views. They accept rather than judge. OK, if you don’t want an abortion, that’s fine. But why can’t someone else, in a different situation, make up their own minds?
There is a great article on the webb, relating the common ground between the Islamic Fundamentalists and the Evangelical fundamentalists. The far far of either spectrum is no different, they just fight under a different name for their God. And remember, they follow the Machiavelli theory of “The End Justifies the Means”, so telling a lie to the “devils”, is A O K.
I have no idea where all of you live, but if you all live in Alaska, I wish more of you would send your children to live in the midwest, cause that’s where the scary people outnumber the smart/common sense/elitist/ normal people.. and I just hope she goes down so bad that she gets thrown out of your state before she does any more damage.
from DC, where the real fun is.
Have you all noticed that “elitists” are those who do not agree with the republicans???
Any one who thinks- regarldess of education- is NOT an elitist.. they are a thinking person, and therefore a danger to the PTB…
honestly, with 7+ houses, $300,000.00 ensembles.. how do you DEFINE elitism??? The republicans have attempted to co opt the “just plain folks” identity when they are not- just as they tried to co opt the flag.
What did someone say about Obama???
One house and One spouse…
No kidding, JT! Maybe if everybody read only the transcripts of interviews and speeches, the point of pointlessness in Palin’s convoluted tapeworm sentences would come through yet more clearly. When there’s neither sound nor picture to distract from the words, what she delivers makes your toes curl in a pretty bad way.
(I’m not only a newly minted elitist, I also rely solely on dial-up internet for my news. Forget watching a video clip, though I really tried a few times. The written word is it. My toes are toast.)
For Ira ~~
Before heading off to bed – will take a shot at answering your question(s)
She can’t or won’t — looking back at the blog over the last month – she continues to inject her personal & religious beliefs into her “work” as mayor or governor.
Troopergate is an example of personal retaliation against someone who offended her or her family
Picketing the local hospital in Wasilla because they performed abortions – against her religious & personal beliefs that life begins at conception – regardless of rape / incest
Charging rape victims for their own rape kits – not just to save money in the community of Wasilla – but probably because Rape Kits generally offer a “morning after pill” thereby offending her religious & personal beliefs
Ira (22:27:43) :
Kewl! Thanks, Deb.
Ok, one thing I’d like to know is this: If Palin is serious about her particular brand of faith – which she appears to be – how could she possibly deal with non-Christians both inside and outside the country? Having spent an hour in an Assembly Of God service a few years ago, I’d throw in those abhorred Catholics too, but let’s keep it simple for now. How could she leave her religious convictions out of the picture when making decisions involving people or governments which she must consider Godless heathens? And if she could manage to make politically sound decisions aside from her religious convictions, wouldn’t she stand before her church fellows a lying hypocrite?
Rene..I think my husband got that email…he thought it was a great idea!
Night all —
Happy Anniversary everyone!!
Thanks AKM
SP has a problem if she drops out. After all the interference of the McCain people in Alaska politics and Troopergate, will they stay if she isn’t in the race? Think of all the people on both sides of the aisle she–and they–have ticked off! I don’t see them as ready to cut a deal with her, so she’ll need the atack dogs to help her out of this mess! Can McCain afford to leave them in Alaska to do this? Seems he’d need them and the money for spin and to launch the new VP candidate (Pilsbury Dough Boy? It least he’s served on a ship!) If she doesn’t make a deal with McCain for this support, I’m not sure she can afford to drop out, but just has to hope Troopergate is all taken care of before the election.
If she drops out after they’re elected (Jaws theme here) then McCain’s appointment to the VP slot has to be approved by the Senate!!!!!!!!! How fun it that! And if there’s no VP and we need a replacement Pres, well, then it would be the Speaker of the House, and right now, that’s Nancy Pelosi. She’s a mother of 5, too. And religious. And successful. Say what you will about her politics, in any way you cut it, she’s sure more ready for the job than Ms Troopergate 2008.
Thanks everyone for the words for my Palin Lingo Bingo game that we’ll be playing during the debate. 8 of us heading to the local brewhouse/theater where it will be on the big screen, with beer & food served. Excellent night!!!
I added Christian Values to the list, of course! Don’t know how you missed that one, you heathens!
And welcome Ira! We have all had our days where it was all too much and the hatefulness of this divisive election got us down. I’ve had a couple of days where I got my venting done via mudflats. This is such a great community, though, that I worked through it. Hope that you find it as supportive & engaging as I have.
g’nite everyone!
If by some horrid chance McCain wins, I do not for a minute believe Palin would agree to drop out. She is a narsisist, and believes she is smarter than she is. I believe she will do what she can to get power, once she is in office.
Rene in Texas, 85 billion split between every adult is way more sensible than what’s been planned so far by the congress. Let the idiot companies and their CEO’s sink. Give all the tax payers a break. And for Lord’s sake, do something that makes people happy. That hasn’t happened in the last 7 1/2 years. We’ve earned it!
Thanks, Enjay. That’s what I based my question on – her inability, so far, to separate personal beliefs and public service. It just seems impossible to me that she should be able to do a 180 going from local and state politics to national and international politics. It’s another thing that makes her dangerous… and I think that no amount of “cramming for knowledge” can outdo what’s running her mind. She may be able to learn to cover it up well for the sake of her public image (i.e., apparent vote-worthiness), but her stripes are inside her skin and I don’t see them changing.
Interesting to me is that much of what seems to be so attractive about her here (to her fans, of course) is a big turnoff to people in Europe. You can’t really find a good word about her on German-language news sites and the BBC. A European is hard pressed to be infatuated with a politician whose claim to fame is “I’m just like you” and things like shooting moose and liking hockey. If it’s the same distance from where you live to the nearest trouble spot of Islamic fighting as it is from the US coast to Kansas, a hockey mom in America isn’t what you’re hoping and praying for… you want skilled, capable, serious politicians at the top of the country which has the power to make all hell break loose in your neighborhood.
I haven’t read anything mentioning race (black/white isn’t really a topic of general interest there), but people do get suspicious when someone comes barging in with Jesus on his or her shoulder. Religious hardliners have wreaked much havoc on Europe (and beyond) over the centuries, so the suspicion – or call it caution – seems justified. The same goes for gung-ho warmongers.
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They like Obama over there
Enjay aka Turbine YukonNo Gravatar (22:48:13) :
Before heading off to bed – will take a shot at answering you question(s)
She can’t or won’t — looking back at the blog over the last month – she continues to inject her personal & religious beliefs into her “work” as mayor or governor.
Troopergate is an example of personal retaliation against someone who offended her or her family
Picketing the local hospital in Wasilla because they performed abortions – against her religious & personal beliefs that life begins at conception – regardless of rape / incest
Charging rape victims for their own rape kits – not just to save money in the community of Wasilla – but probably because Rape Kits generally offer a “morning after pill” thereby offending her religious & personal beliefs
Whiskey otter palin—You forgot apocalypse
Deb (20:44:03) :
Don’t worry about Trig too much. Trig and his Mom absolutely adore each other as was quite obvious to anyone who saw them together at the RNC
He might have challenges but Shortage of Cuddles isn’t going to be one of them.
JT, that’s what I’m thinking. My sister and I discussed very briefly what we think of Palin, and we both came up with “Hitler”. Not that there’s a direct comparison, mind you, but some of the parallels are nevertheless scary. The immense personal ambition to make it to the top (didn’t Palin say “I want to be president” when she was told she might make governor in as little as – what, ten years?), the using of people to climb up and then the dropping of them (how many of those who paved her way to governorship has she fired since then?), the knack for rallying masses of people by way of “talk” (she’s credited with having a real gift for “reading” an audience and knowing and delivering what they want to hear)… these are just a few examples that don’t have much weight over here and yet seem so obvious where people have cheered and then suffered from a politician’s blind ambition and refusal to keep personal interests and public duty apart.
Honestly, if there’s only little old McCain between her and the presidency, she’d be as good as there. The mind reels at the thought.
JTNo Gravatar (23:21:32) :
If by some horrid chance McCain wins, I do not for a minute believe Palin would agree to drop out. She is a narsisist, and believes she is smarter than she is. I believe she will do what she can to get power, once she is in office.
@Rene in Texas (22:42:00) :
you said>>>
I received this in an email I just wanted to see what others thought about this plan. If this is what we could receive with 85 bil what would 700 bil equal.
I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. etc>>>
This email has been doing the rounds for some time.
I was told that it is incorrect…too many zeros (0000s).
Apparently if the $85 billion was divided out each person would only get about $425
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/dividend.asp
JTNo.
Don’t believe for a moment that McCain will give her anything meaningful to do as VP. He has just used her to get the vote. She will be shut out and relagated to social functions. OHHHH POOR Sarah….NOT.
Obama/Biden
If you give everybody enough money to pay off their debts, and they do. Doesn’t that mean that all the lenders have cash but no income?
Hi Zim, How’re the markets in Oz? We’re a bit shaky over here – one Swedish bank rumoured to bit a bit unsteady, but I don’t think it will be allowed to collapse.
I have Palin fatigue today, I just want to hide under the covers and wake up to a Democratic new world on Nov 5. Still, I’m glad someone made the point that there’s not really that much difference between Islamic and Christian fundamentalists/extremists – somebody want to point it out to them?
***TOTALLY OFF TOPIC***
If you haven’t visited the “Aging Hippies for Obama Club – ANYONE CAN JOIN!” thread at the Forum, you have missed reading absolutely incredible stories! They are posted on the General Chat thread.
Oh my! I knew this was a unique and talented group of people (NO! I am not talking about ME!), but you folks, collectively, have restored my belief that there is a huge group of us who are largely unnoticed but genuinely concerned about the future of America…and we may just be the October/November surprise!
Your shared experiences have made me laugh, cry, play my “oldies but goodies RECORDS”, call former “partners in crime” to reminisce, hunt-up old pictures and giggle…and, most of all, LONG TO BE IN A JAIL CELL WITH JAMES TAYLOR!
Thanks for allowing us to peek into your pasts, in hopes of rekindling the unity required for changing our country’s future!
GIVE PEACE A CHANCE – YES WE CAN! – PEACE AND LOVE
(I intended to post this the Bedtime Thread” – to invite our International friends to join in the conversation…but I am headed for bed.)
Nite Mudpuppies
I have an election day advent calender with an A4 sheet of paper with the dates on stuck onto a box of chocolates.
Today was a Coffee Creme.
Much as I’d love to receive that check for $425,000.00, the math works out to $425.00. Remember how much good that $600.00 “stimulus check” did for ya? It bought me 3 1/2 tanks of fuel for my truck…
Wow! look at the angle of the uptrend for Obama on fivethirtyeight.com
Must be less than 30 degrees
Todd worrying she might not be spending enough time with her family reminds me of the scene in “Coal Miner’s Daughter,” where Loretta Lynn is recording her first song in the studio and can’t do it till her husband brings the kids in to be her audience.
2 things:
Mr. Palin = reTODD
second. Joe Biden has just as much common man appeal as SWWNBN has as the hockey mom. If she goes on about her family life, he can too. And he can talk about his son in Iraq, if she does. he can talk about taking the train to work, too. That will be a losing argument for her. He’s the opposite of elitist, IMHO. And his smile lights up a room as well as hers.
From Huffington Post:
Top 10 Reasons Sarah Palin Cancels The Debate:
10. Suspicious Russian tourists spotted across the Bering strait in Dezhnevo
9. Wrasslin’ a bear
8. Learns Tina Fey will be watching
7. When taken on tour of White House by McCain handlers, is “inadvertently” locked in Cheney’s man-sized safe
6. Schedule for memorizing state capitals thrown off by need for new schedule to memorize states
5. Speechless after finally looking up what “MILF” stands for
4. On deadline to finish her book, Namin’ Your Baby the Alaskan Way
3. Needs more time to really nail those hilarious hair-plug zingers
2. No matter how hard she scrubs, she can’t get Kissinger’s moral stank off of her
1. Stuck in traffic on the Bridge to Nowhere
Dee (15:25:03) :
A flock of Canada geese just flew over my house here in PA, so I am preparing for my new job as the Prime Minister of Canada. Wish me luck.
Oh my God,That is too funny,Thank You
marksmyword, you wrote:
“At work today we were debating what to drink/eat after every Palin gaffe on Thursday. We determined that shots would not work because we’d all be blasted after the first half-hour. We’re now torn between chocolate or jelly beans.”
I suggest you go back to shots. Why be sober in the second half-hour? If you train yourselves to associate Palin’s ravings with tasty munchies, you will end up thinking of her every time you have some – wouldn’t work for me, how about you?
Avril, you wrote:
“Are the candidates allowed to wear ear pieces to be given info while at the podium while debating?”
No.
“If not then how do we know that they are complying?”
Search under Palin’s hair if she’s wearing it down.
“Also do they know the questions in advance?”
If the questioner is honest, no.
Suchanut, you wrote :
“I’ve become a conspiracy theorist! OMG!”
(snips)
“Sheesh….it’s almost believable.”
Not totally farfetched. In 1900 the New York State Republicans pushed Governor Theodore Roosevelt to run for vice president because they wanted him out of New York. McKinley and Roosevelt were elected, and then McKinley got blown away. McCain claims to be a successor to Roosevelt – but could Palin be hoping she is?
JM, you wrote: “Are there any people who prefer being the ‘power behind the throne’ rather than on it? [If one studies histories of monarchies, quite often there have been regents who really ran things on 'behalf of' minor kings.]”
Dick Cheney, Karl Rove…
Ira, you wrote : “I have no college education
( I never even finished high school. Is there any way to be “elitist” just on account of having a brain, or am I doomed to be an enemy in Palin’s camp?”
I would not have guessed, after reading your other messages, that you have not had the benefit of higher education. So the answer to your question is, Yes. You think, and you write in complete, grammatical sentences. Therefore you are the enemy.
Does anyone know where Trig is?
SteveNG (07:51:11) :
Steve, I was taken out of school halfway into 10th grade just before the school would have kicked me out
) It was less embarrassing for my parents that way. My grades in English were the German equivalent of the American “F” for several years running before that, so it’s rather obvious that “school” and “I” simply never got along. I’ve always been a voracious reader, though, and incorrigibly curious about everything and nothing.
Being free to make up one’s mind based on a grand variety of information rather than having to go by limited and pre-chewed opinion would serve our politicians well too – and even more Us The People. ‘Course, that’s not realistic, but it’s a nice dream.