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	<title>Comments on: TransCanada &#8211; Alaska&#8217;s Pipe Dream.</title>
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	<description>Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics</description>
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		<title>By: Moose Pucky</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2008/12/21/transcanada-alaskas-pipe-dream/#comment-5317</link>
		<dc:creator>Moose Pucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fewer pipelines, also--also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fewer pipelines, also&#8211;also.</p>
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		<title>By: Moose Pucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moose Pucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, here!!  More skunk cabbage and fewer pipilines (and those nasty subsidies), I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, here!!  More skunk cabbage and fewer pipilines (and those nasty subsidies), I say.</p>
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		<title>By: Irishgirl Rosebud.</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2008/12/21/transcanada-alaskas-pipe-dream/#comment-5278</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishgirl Rosebud.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SMR, 
What an enlightening post. I had been trying to follow this on Andrew Halcro&#039;s blog but some bits of the puzzle were always missing for me. You filled in those blanks and I now feel that I understand this whole debacle so much better.
What doesn&#039;t surprise me is SP&#039;s complete ineptitude. How could anyone, having seen her performance on the campaign trail, entrust her with 500 million dollars of Alaskas&#039;s money? This woman doesn&#039;t seem able to run her household (honestly), let alone run a state. And in the long run, it will be the Alaskans who suffer. This woman makes my blood boil! She is just so unqualifed for the position she holds. I can certainly understand your anger.
SMR, always read your posts.  Is it still Calgary for the move?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMR,<br />
What an enlightening post. I had been trying to follow this on Andrew Halcro&#8217;s blog but some bits of the puzzle were always missing for me. You filled in those blanks and I now feel that I understand this whole debacle so much better.<br />
What doesn&#8217;t surprise me is SP&#8217;s complete ineptitude. How could anyone, having seen her performance on the campaign trail, entrust her with 500 million dollars of Alaskas&#8217;s money? This woman doesn&#8217;t seem able to run her household (honestly), let alone run a state. And in the long run, it will be the Alaskans who suffer. This woman makes my blood boil! She is just so unqualifed for the position she holds. I can certainly understand your anger.<br />
SMR, always read your posts.  Is it still Calgary for the move?</p>
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		<title>By: SoCalWolfGal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SMR, thank you so much for your post. As someone else commented, it really helps to understand a very complex subject. I can understand the people of Alaska really want this to happen, but at some point surely reality has to set in. I simply cannot believe that Alaskans are going to continue to buy her outright lies. The woman wouldn&#039;t know the truth if it hit her in the face! And by the time everyone realizes the $1,200 check is not in the mail again, well I just hope it is not too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMR, thank you so much for your post. As someone else commented, it really helps to understand a very complex subject. I can understand the people of Alaska really want this to happen, but at some point surely reality has to set in. I simply cannot believe that Alaskans are going to continue to buy her outright lies. The woman wouldn&#8217;t know the truth if it hit her in the face! And by the time everyone realizes the $1,200 check is not in the mail again, well I just hope it is not too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Goalie in NM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goalie in NM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post SMR....somethings just need more than 750 words to get it all said and this is the case here.

Thanks.  It&#039;s worth reading several times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post SMR&#8230;.somethings just need more than 750 words to get it all said and this is the case here.</p>
<p>Thanks.  It&#8217;s worth reading several times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SMR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the supportive comments.  I don&#039;t have the superpowers (like AKM) that allow me comment on individual comments or questions, but I will say a few things ---

You all are real troopers for reading the whole thing.  I think it went slightly beyond the 500-750 words that AKM suggested... but really the issue is far too complex to do it justice in even the length that I ended up with.  The bottom line is that anyone who is interested in getting to the facts of the matter can quite easily find out that it is all a case of the empress&#039; new clothes quite easily.  Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think that the local press was willing to put together something that definitively outlined that, but if you parse or extrapolate info from their articles it&#039;s all there in black &amp; white.  Check out this link for more: http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/pipeline/

As someone above posted, Alaskans really really really want this, so they do not have the desire to see it clearly.  If they&#039;d have wanted to look at it clearly &amp; objectively they&#039;d have seen through the TransCanada pipeline issue long ago.

I agree that Andrew Halcro has plenty posted about this, and he is a good resource for info about this issue.  I was not living in AK when he ran against SP for gov, so can&#039;t say what it was that led to the general consensus that he has an anti-Palin agenda.  As far as I&#039;m concerned she is a really really atrocious Governor -- I have no anti-Palin agenda, just a truth agenda, as I think Halcro does.  If seeking the truth results in opinions that do not support Palin, well, I think that there&#039;s plenty of info out there now that points to Palin &amp; Truth = oxymoron.  

My final words:  &lt;b&gt;educate educate educate&lt;/b&gt; -- the info is all out there, tons of documents, and a reading of the House Bill (http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/agia/pdf/agia_docs/HB0177F.pdf)
that I referenced will make you sick, the waste of $500 million with a bottom line that neither the state nor TransCanada are actually obliged to build a pipeline: 
(e) If the commissioners and the licensee agree that the project is uneconomic or an arbitration panel makes a final determination that the project is uneconomic, the licensee shall, upon the state&#039;s request, transfer to the state or the state&#039;s designee all engineering designs, contracts, permits, and other data related to the project that are acquired by the licensee during the term of the license upon reimbursement by the state of the net amount of expenditures incurred and paid by the licensee that are  qualified expenditures for the purposes of AS 43.90.110.

And doesn&#039;t it make you nervous when there is verbiage like this, kinda Bush-Cheney like:  Sec. 43.90.420. Statute of limitations. &lt;b&gt; A person may not bring a judicial action challenging the constitutionality of this chapter or the constitutionality of a license issued under this chapter  unless the action is commenced in a court of the state of competent jurisdiction within 90 days after the date that a license is issued.

And of course there&#039;s the promise on the part of the State that they will hurry along any permitting or court cases that impact the pipeline process.  &lt;b&gt;That makes me nervous, how about you???&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the supportive comments.  I don&#8217;t have the superpowers (like AKM) that allow me comment on individual comments or questions, but I will say a few things &#8212;</p>
<p>You all are real troopers for reading the whole thing.  I think it went slightly beyond the 500-750 words that AKM suggested&#8230; but really the issue is far too complex to do it justice in even the length that I ended up with.  The bottom line is that anyone who is interested in getting to the facts of the matter can quite easily find out that it is all a case of the empress&#8217; new clothes quite easily.  Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think that the local press was willing to put together something that definitively outlined that, but if you parse or extrapolate info from their articles it&#8217;s all there in black &amp; white.  Check out this link for more: <a href="http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/pipeline/">http://www.adn.com/money/industries/oil/pipeline/</a></p>
<p>As someone above posted, Alaskans really really really want this, so they do not have the desire to see it clearly.  If they&#8217;d have wanted to look at it clearly &amp; objectively they&#8217;d have seen through the TransCanada pipeline issue long ago.</p>
<p>I agree that Andrew Halcro has plenty posted about this, and he is a good resource for info about this issue.  I was not living in AK when he ran against SP for gov, so can&#8217;t say what it was that led to the general consensus that he has an anti-Palin agenda.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned she is a really really atrocious Governor &#8212; I have no anti-Palin agenda, just a truth agenda, as I think Halcro does.  If seeking the truth results in opinions that do not support Palin, well, I think that there&#8217;s plenty of info out there now that points to Palin &amp; Truth = oxymoron.  </p>
<p>My final words:  <b>educate educate educate</b> &#8212; the info is all out there, tons of documents, and a reading of the House Bill (<a href="http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/agia/pdf/agia_docs/HB0177F.pdf">http://www.gov.state.ak.us/agia/agia/pdf/agia_docs/HB0177F.pdf</a>)<br />
that I referenced will make you sick, the waste of $500 million with a bottom line that neither the state nor TransCanada are actually obliged to build a pipeline:<br />
(e) If the commissioners and the licensee agree that the project is uneconomic or an arbitration panel makes a final determination that the project is uneconomic, the licensee shall, upon the state&#8217;s request, transfer to the state or the state&#8217;s designee all engineering designs, contracts, permits, and other data related to the project that are acquired by the licensee during the term of the license upon reimbursement by the state of the net amount of expenditures incurred and paid by the licensee that are  qualified expenditures for the purposes of AS 43.90.110.</p>
<p>And doesn&#8217;t it make you nervous when there is verbiage like this, kinda Bush-Cheney like:  Sec. 43.90.420. Statute of limitations. <b> A person may not bring a judicial action challenging the constitutionality of this chapter or the constitutionality of a license issued under this chapter  unless the action is commenced in a court of the state of competent jurisdiction within 90 days after the date that a license is issued.</p>
<p>And of course there&#8217;s the promise on the part of the State that they will hurry along any permitting or court cases that impact the pipeline process.  </b><b>That makes me nervous, how about you???</b></p>
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		<title>By: Say No To Palin in Politics AKA Knife Pile Palin AKA PEM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Say No To Palin in Politics AKA Knife Pile Palin AKA PEM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so someone please explain to me just what Gov Palin gets out of making this deal? surely not just a high approval rating? there&#039;s got to me more to it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so someone please explain to me just what Gov Palin gets out of making this deal? surely not just a high approval rating? there&#8217;s got to me more to it</p>
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		<title>By: blue moose</title>
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		<dc:creator>blue moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Canadian&#039;s are already are building a gas line down the middle of Canada to Chicago
so why the competition with Alaska which is much farther away,, the Gov should know this. Todd watches Ice Road Truckers. it was on that show. I believe that is where this gas line was going to the Midwest. or have they changed the route??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Canadian&#8217;s are already are building a gas line down the middle of Canada to Chicago<br />
so why the competition with Alaska which is much farther away,, the Gov should know this. Todd watches Ice Road Truckers. it was on that show. I believe that is where this gas line was going to the Midwest. or have they changed the route??</p>
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		<title>By: austintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>austintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our very own hillbilly - Jerry Jones - just built his own monument to ego...........displaced longtime homeowners by emminent domain - said the stadium was &quot;for the good of the Community&quot;........same thing Bush did when his Daddies buddies gave him the sweetheart deal on the baseball team.....surely there is a special little place for these ass-wipes when check-out time comes.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our very own hillbilly &#8211; Jerry Jones &#8211; just built his own monument to ego&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..displaced longtime homeowners by emminent domain &#8211; said the stadium was &#8220;for the good of the Community&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;..same thing Bush did when his Daddies buddies gave him the sweetheart deal on the baseball team&#8230;..surely there is a special little place for these ass-wipes when check-out time comes&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Proud Community OrganizerWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud Community OrganizerWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great rant SMR! I would be incoherent with bunches of very colorful words thrown in!

Seems like a sweet deal!  For the CANADIANS!

What a mess! Personally if any of our federal dollars go to this project right now I am starting a letter writing campaign. Now is not the time to even look at this mess that sounds like lawsuits from here to nowhere to me!

Asiangirl we lost the Seattle Super Sonics this year because we said NO to a new arena. The people here were fed up with funding stadiums and arenas at the expense of all of the projects that are a much higher priority.

It was a long fight but I feel the people of Washington did the right thing. I am one of those people that feels sports should pay for their own freaking stadiums period! If they can pay one player the salary of a government then they can build their own dream! IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great rant SMR! I would be incoherent with bunches of very colorful words thrown in!</p>
<p>Seems like a sweet deal!  For the CANADIANS!</p>
<p>What a mess! Personally if any of our federal dollars go to this project right now I am starting a letter writing campaign. Now is not the time to even look at this mess that sounds like lawsuits from here to nowhere to me!</p>
<p>Asiangirl we lost the Seattle Super Sonics this year because we said NO to a new arena. The people here were fed up with funding stadiums and arenas at the expense of all of the projects that are a much higher priority.</p>
<p>It was a long fight but I feel the people of Washington did the right thing. I am one of those people that feels sports should pay for their own freaking stadiums period! If they can pay one player the salary of a government then they can build their own dream! IMHO</p>
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