Bedtime in Alaska – Open Thread!
It’s been a busy news day, and a busy day in my “real” life as well. The comments are piling up, so here’s a shiny new open thread to discuss the events of the day. I’ll try to play catch up tomorrow!
G’night Mudflatters!
It’s a FREE thread so I’m here to wander (then go to bed). Thanks AKM for helping “center” us when we need it the most.
WOO HOO a new thread!!
It was taking forever for the last thread with 300 comments to upload with my dial up!!!
G’night AKM enjoy your evening off!
Will update everyone on meeting with Jon Moller tomorrow evening probably after I meet with him.
G’night all, very tired and starting to get sore from the ride to Emmonak today.
Ann Strongheart
Nunam Iqua Food Drive
c/o Ann Strongheart
P.O. Box 7
Nunam Iqua, AK 99666
nunamiquayouth@yahoo.com
Oh good to hear from you Ann. Yes do keep us updated!
By the way, we have a small thread started in the forum about the Better Business Bureau’s information – or rather lack of information – about Samaritan’s Purse. They have been ‘revoked’ and/or failed to send information to the BBB which BBB had requested. They call it ‘Nondisclosure’ and said it shows ‘lack of transparency’ – sound familiar??
Writing from AK,
OOh I am not brave enough to go to the forum. I tried once and just got lost. I am still getting the hang of blogs and posting LOL. I can’t keep up in here think I’ll keep avoiding the forum. Maybe someday I’ll wonder over there.
Just like I haven’t visited the facebook pages. Well ook that’s b/c I can’t get them to upload on dial up. Hopefully, some day I’ll get a faster connection and the nerve to start visiting forums LOL
G’night, Ok really leaving this time. Catch up tomorrow night!
Ann
ooh man I am tired,
soo many typo’s in that last post. I gotta shut off the computer and get to bed!! LOL
Ann
Ann, you’re probably already catching your well-deserved zzzzz’s, but anyway -
I have dial-up too, and I know what you mean about slow loading. But hey, the stimulus includes $$ for rural broadband! Let’s hope it finds its way down to us.
I do hope you are getting a well deserved rest, Ann. Getting the hang of the forum just takes time, something I’m sure you are a bit short of these days. It will be there when you are ready to tackle it, I’m sure it’s not going anywhere, but up.
Hey Anne, thanks for the update.
I was always last on the last thread. Hmm, well I have alot to do tomorrow and need rest. Should be interesting the commercials that come from this. Already the half truths are plastered all over ADN. I did leave comments on ADN that were removed.
It makes me wonder about freedom of speech, freedom of the press. When ADN removes comments, But, all that matters is those who needed help KNOW where it came from. Let us hope that places like Huffington Post and KO get ahold of this. I put the timeline on this on my personal blog , but lets see … if we can shed light on the truth.
I’m gonna take advantage of an open thread to let folks know about a notice I received Re: Alaska book we were discussing in the forum and will be on Book TV (times are Eastern):
Book TV on C-Span2
Fifty Miles from Tomorrow
by William Iggiagruk Hensley
Upcoming Schedule:
Saturday, February 21, at 4:00 PM
Sunday, February 22, at 2:45 AM
Sunday, February 22, at 6:00 PM
About the Program: William Iggiagruk Hensley, recounts his childhood as a Native Alaskan and his tenures in the Alaska House of Representatives and State Senate. Mr. Hensley was an author of the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act, signed into law in 1971, which protected 44 million acres of land in Alaska from non-native and government acquisition and awarded $962.5 million dollars for ceding claims to the remaining land. This event was hosted by Hearthside Books at the Baranof Hotel in Juneau, Alaska.
About the Author: William Iggiagruk Hensley served four years in the Alaska House of Representatives and six years in the Alaskan State Senate. He assisted in establishing the Alaska Federation of Natives and has been the organizations executive director, director, president, and co-chair.
What I googled: Reverend Franklin Graham, the head of Samaritan’s Purse, a faith-based organization which has received more than 13 million in US government funds. With a total annual budget of over 220 million ($US) Samaritan’s Purse is active in about 100 countries worldwide including providing emergency aid in places like Indonesia, Iraq and Sri Lanka… Graham, a second generation evangelist and right-wing fundamentalist, has been publicly disparaging about Islam calling it a “wicked religion” and has also said that Hindus are ‘bound by Satan’s Power.”
I was at an event tonight. (I’m in Alaska). And a group of us women talked about how SP’s portrayal with her guns, hunting, commercial fishing, hockey mom, snowmachining creates some kind of dream girl wonder woman image for people in the lower 48. But, jeez, many Alaskan women do these things. We have a bumper sticker here: “Alaska Girls Kick A**” This is not unique here in Alaska. We are a state of tomboys, who can hunt and fish by day, and wear heels and ball gowns the same night.
GOOGLE REPORT: Samaritan’s Purse is not new to such controversy and has a history of aggressive proselytization. In 2003 their Operation Christmas Child program came under scrutiny for delivering shoeboxes filled with presents and evangelical literature to children in developing countries. During the 1991 Gulf War, the organization shipped Arabic copies of the New Testament into Saudi Arabia, not only breaking Saudi law but also defying the US-Saudi alliance. After an earthquake in rural El-Salvador, the agency insisted on holding prayer sessions before helping and teaching residents to build emergency shelters.
Samaritan’s Purse is not the only organization which has used the desperation of communities after wars and environmental disasters as a platform to proselytize.
@Polly (02:25:12) :
It’s a golden opportunity for them to grow their base in Western Alaska. What took them so long?
Conservatives4Palin … have an article gushing over how she is going to help out and bringing Samaritan’s Purse… how godly she is.. yadda yadda
Then read the comments.. They come to an abrupt stop (well last one was 4:38 am so may pick up tomorrow) after a poster Andre T put a little damper on their hootin’ and hollering by posting a link of the Better Business Bureau showing the Samaritan’s Purse was dropped :
On January 16, 2009, this charity’s BBB Accreditation was revoked by the BBB’s Board of Directors due to failing to meet BBB Standards of Charitable Accountability.
http://www.nwnc.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=1507
(Here’s the Conservatives4Palin rant….
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2009/02/governor-palin-heading-for-bush.html)
Hi Polly, I’m interested in this group. Any other info please post on my comments at http://nailinpalinnow.blogspot.com/ but this should be enough to go on thanks…
Hi Mudflats, by the way, I’ve been meaning to ask you, do you think you could list me on your blogroll? I just want to get the word out and the one time one of your members mentioned me in comments I got a lot of visitors from you….g’night then, sleep tight.
Ann – you are indeed special.
Wouldn’t the charitable status of Samaritans Purse be compromised by promoting a Repub politician?, there seems to be a lot of this with religious organisations in the US. They should lose tax free status, it is outrageous.
UK Lady – Rachel Maddow and a guest discussed your concerns at length last nite. It’s a mess for sure.
Just saw Alan Keyes on MSNBC say PO is a “radical communist” and that if the Republicans don’t stop him – “he will destroy this country”………sigh.
The repubs really don’t get the premise ‘you lost’, do they? Lots of exploding heads.
Instead of trying to tear down and scare people, they should concentrate on why they lost and repairing their own party.
It seems to me they only believe in having a democracy if they win the vote, so no irony there then.
With the handfull of right wingers ‘leading’ the Taliban, I cannot see them coming back anytime soon. But, hey, we has Bushwacker for 8 years, so who can tell? I do hope that the great majority of Americans are sick to death of this right wing mumbo jumbo.
I also saw that Govs HAVE to publically accept or reject bailout money. Kudos. Let ‘em do it in public then let the voters decide. I for one will be voting in every election humanly possible… D of course
Rep. Jay Ramras, R-Fairbanks, has been organizing food deliveries to many Western Alaska villages and was among Palin’s most vocal critics.
“I applaud her for following in the footsteps of what Alaskans and nonprofits and churches have already been doing over the last four to six weeks,” he said Thursday. “I think she’s setting a great example for the next wave of giving.”………………..lol, too funny I am glad he got the jab in, ya go boy!!!!!
Not surprising Sarah Palin is a do nothing show horse on helping Native Villages. Back when she was Mayor of Wasilla, the town had to hire a manager to run things. Sarah has the same policies failures as President Bush; socialism for the wealthy and well connected and you’re on your own for the rest.
oops I also forgot I left comments on ADN and they were properly removed also,lol, unbelievable….
story up on Halcro
I bet ADN would not run a paid in cash full page ad stating the facts and timeline of the help the bloggers have given.
SON OF A PREACHER MAN
“..being good isn’t always easy..”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJM5K51peVw
(change of pace!)
@ austintx
I bet they wouldn’t either, it appears they have no spine.
BigPete – Way to go!! You ALWAYS find and post the nuggets…….above you is no other. Thanks.
HEY FOLKS-
ADN only semi moderates their comments sections.
If you got deleted it is because someone else ‘report abuse”-ed you too many times.
ADN has come a lonnnnnggg way in the last few years- not a great paper but a heckuva a lot more balanced than it used to be.
If you read all the crabby snarky remarks by folks obviously on the “other side’ you will see the same kinds of deleted-me! remarks and so on.
Somehow ADN’s greatest gift is to irritate MOST folks…
Another thing-
Please- do not let the ghastly gov’s use of “faith-based’ obliterate the fine work done by churches all over Alaska to gather necessities for neighbors.
We have anonymous donor types all over this state –
And they come in every category-
Youth groups and students,
Churches,
Small businesses.
Everyday people, inc jammie clad bloggers,
Lots of work to do…
for everyone.
so far- the only real laggard is the gov…
Grahm quote from Bush Inag”
I have been many places in the past few years where the masses of people are looking for some kind of savior to rescue them from their political and moral messes in which they find themselves. Only a personal relationship with the living God can fill the moral vacuum that exists in the world today. It is God and God alone that can solve the crises in which we find ourselves, and he uses people to carry out his work.
Today we face new challenges that previous generations could have never dreamed of. Some are matchless opportunities, others however are unparalleled dangers and threats. The greatest threat however lies deep within our own hearts that are infected with greed, hate and lust.
We frequently hear stories of war, terrorism, crime and social injustice. We’re asked, “Why?” These testify to the fact that something is wrong with the human heart.
As my stomache turns…………….
This is Palin’s way of shoving God into the native villages! Evangelizing is Franklin Grahams whole agenda. What is the language of the villages that Palin is going to? And what ever happening to that Government order to help the natives vote in elections? hmmmmm?
http://pursestrings.ca/
““Our outreach to these children and their families may begin with a shoe box gift but our ultimate goal is to open doors to share the Good News of Jesus Christ and to open hearts to receive Him as Lord and Savior.” – Franklin Graham
“That’s one of the things about Samaritan’s Purse,” Michael, an OCC representative, said. “It’s not just about giving the boxes so the children can receive presents. Giving the boxes actually evangelizes more than people think.”
“It’s not just a big gift. It’s not just humanitarian aid. It is a tool for evangelism so thank you for helping us evangelize our people.” – OCC representative, Kosovo”
The United Nations Declaration of the Elimination of All Forms of Intolerance and of Discrimination Based on Religion or Belief
The United Nations Declaration of the Elimination of All Forms of Intolerance and of Discrimination Based on Religion or Belief, Proclaimed by the General Assembly resolution 36/55 of 25 November, 1981, Article 5.2. states:
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/d_intole.htm
http://www.humanrightsreference.com/appendix8.html
http://www.hri.ca/uninfo/treaties/17.shtml
2. Every child shall enjoy the right to have access to education in the matter of religion or belief in accordance with the wishes of his parents or, as the case may be, legal guardians, and shall not be compelled to receive teaching on religion or belief against the wishes of his parents or legal guardians, the best interests of the child being the guiding principle.
It would appear that Samaritan’s Purse, through Operation Christmas Child, has apparently violated the rights of the “voodoo priest” and has no qualms about undermining the social fabric of the communities it operates within.
Here’s the time line as I see it…
http://anonymousbloggers.com/timeline.cfm
Please post additions/corrections here.
Thanks
Jane
I am not 100% sure, but I thought there was some other discussion/calls for need again in October.
And I would add the CNN report that likely shamed her into finally acting. And, I would include some background on the evengelicals she has selected to bring them some food and “good news.” Those folks aren’t there to feed.
There were requests for help from the villages in October and I think earlier.
And just what is Palin and her administration up to with this crap? Is she deliberatly setting up alternative energy programs to fail in order to “show” how they don’t work in AK? or is she trying to “show” how the stimulus package money into these programs was a waste and ill spent by Barack and democrats?
Btw…….I forwarded this to the white house asking that the President and Ken Salazar be informed about it. What the H*ll is wrong with her?
Another btw, I think Palin’s appointed energy czar sounds very suspect to being manipulated by Palin and/or others. Someone needs to investigate him, like right now! He’s been caught lying several times! We don’t need half assed efforts. Get a real expert in there!
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/of_audits_assesments
At a February 4 meeting, the LBA tasked the audit division to “evaluate and recommend alternative energy projects for funding” under the terms of legislation passed last year to provide state assistance for renewable energy projects.
“Instead of reviewing all of the seventy seven projects, Rep. Hawker (R-Anchorage) requested the Division of Audit review a selected group of projects. The division chose five randomly selected projects out of the dozens proposed, and found four out of five had raised red flags.
In their report issued on Tuesday (2/17/09) the division identified “a variety of areas on which AEA did not follow its established methodology or was not as comprehensive or complete as other (state and federal) agencies are when evaluating alternative energy projects.”
Note the date on this article: August 6, 2008. This was before the freeze-up, I believe.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-08-06-gas_N.htm
Palin has probably been shamed into doing this. (Not that I think she ever really feels that emotion)…however; I don’t really care HOW the villages receive the help or WHO delivers it as long as it gets there.
What cannot happen is Palin taking the CREDIT for getting it there!! Exposing her lies is all that we can do with the help of the MSM.
I have faith that Ann will let it be known how much this Governor has done for the folks in rural Western Alaska.
I also found this very interesting page on Alaska, I was looking for how many different tribes there were and where they are located, I’m trying to get a better picture of what this looks like logistically. It says there are “hundreds” of native villages! Just how many are hurting? How many don’t we know about?
Hey Victoria, I mailed 3 more boxes yesterday, hugs and love to those in need. (should be there Sat. or Mon, sent from MO.)
Natives…….http://www.kstrom.net/isk/maps/ak/aklinks.html
I can relate AKM… as this stuff is enough to make even Brian dizzy! We truly applaud your valiant efforts to keep us apprised in the “spin zone”… while diligently “swatting” at the occasional flies. I really need to disconnect for a minute ~ get off the wheel for a while and catch up on some serious “homework” too.
Nevertheless, I wish to commend all the noble Alaskans and mudpups (and Brian too!) for having the compassion to get involved in the lives of other ~ for truth be known, we’re in the morass together…and will have to depend upon one another more than we know in the coming days, months, years…
I take heart that those in dire strait are continuing to have their needs addressed, despite GINO’s blatant disregard…but this one thing I know; and that is that “in this life ~ we reap what we sow”, be that good or bad…
So fret not ~ and let us each continue to do our share to make our corners of the world a much better place for all of us. As we now look to the new leadership to make the necessary changes that we all need, our President will be depending on us to do our part. Collaboratively, we will change the state of our nation for the better, one community at a time. We are each co-laborers; having vested interests.
Be encouraged to continue.
8~}
I could swear I read that SP was warned of an impending rural crisis as early as July 08, and I could wear I read that it was Walt Monaghan that warned her. However, my memory is shocking and I am not having much luck googling. Hasn’t AKM got all this stuff on archived posts?.
Yes, it was actually in Walt Monegan’s farewell letter, and you are correct about the date. It was originally posted on the ADN site. A search for “Monegan letter” will probably pull it up. Just use the search box at the bottom of the sidebar. AKM
Good grief…..are we going to have a foursome? (Coale is Gretta’s husband)
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/van_susteren_scientology_and_sarahpac
“Coale has traveled with the McCain campaign and has spent time with Palin, whom he has found to be smart and fun to be around.”
“He still tells people the pin is “a gift from my girlfriend,” and he doesn’t mean Van Susteren. Is Greta OK with that? “She knows it,” he said.”
“There certainly appears to be a real connection between Coale and Palin and it would appear that Van Susteren and Palin have forged a relationship that allows for special access. “
How on earth do the evangelicals and the scientologist relate to each other. Won’t the fundies be p*ssed that their Sainted Sarah is pallin’ around with moonies?.
p.s. is she gullible or what?.
Ann Coulter on Larry King last night said Bristol Palin should either marry or put her baby up for adoption. Let’s see if Mama Grizz attacks Coulter.
As a Canadian, I readily admit I dont know all about the US and her politics.
However, lately reading many blogs I feel nervous. The rabid right wing, is becoming even more rabid by the day. When someone like Alan Keyes will announce his thoughts that Obama is a communist…Rush Limbaugh spouting his hateful rhetoric. That horrific cartoon in the New York Post…well it leaves me wondering what the quieter nut cases are planning.
I read comments on different sites like Town Hall and others that hint that he should be shot. Its frightening, because there are so many nut cases out there.
Someone please tell me I am worrying about nothing.
Hobojohn, thanks for the laugh! We can always depend of Rush & Ann to come out with the most insane opinions.
CRFlats, Martha Unalaska, Nan and InJuneau,
I have joined the forum, still trying to figure out how it works, but I just wanted to let you know. I haven’t figured out yet how to PM you.
Nan and InJuneau, there are some things you brought up I am dying to talk about with you. Might develop into something interesting.
ICVillages
UK Lady…you are right. Walt Monegan did warn her back then.
Laurie, “Someone please tell me I am worrying about nothing.”
I wish I could. But these people are as dangerous as any extreme religioud group. They’re now following the lead of the Taliban… it is scary and it is real. Maybe we should turn gitmo into a debrainwashing camp for insane right wingers?
Paula or problem child or anybody for that matter,
Did the former rural advisor’s resignation figure in here?
Thanks,
Jane
Say No TO Palin In Politics (07:12:03) :
Look here too…
http://fairbanks-alaska.com/alaska-native-corporations.htm
Lots of links to follow…
Jane, I am not aware of any proven connection, other than his letter of resignation warned that the rural areas would face challenges this winter and he seemed to looking at it primarily from a public safety point of view. Did you catch my link above to USNews?
Hobojohn
Seriously?, Ann Coulter said that?, I mean I am laughing ……. but that is terrible!, well at least SP will have a new target – flame war anyone??!!.
Laurie, thanks, I am not going mad then, just can’t find the reference but thought Jane in Miami would be interested.
Also Laurie, try not to worry too much. Don’t forget everyone who comments has an IP number, that makes them traceable and watchableby the feds.
COOL! take that! late to care Gov!
http://shannynmoore.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/breaking-news-western-alaska-relief/#comments
“Before Governor Sarah Palin even stepped on a plane with the Reverend Franklin Graham in tow, a solution is at hand.
Both Senator Begich and Senator Murkowski, working with The Bureau of Indian Affairs, have secured money for the people in need, and it is immediate.”
So basically John Coale has a crush on Sarah
Greta has a crush on Todd..
The foursome………
Never mind…it’s just to disgusting to even think, much less say………
Jane, a link to AKM’s post including the letter. http://www.themudflats.net/2009/01/17/rural-alaska-in-crisis-the-real-tragedy-of-troopergate/
Jane, sorry I misread your query & thought you were talking about Monagan. Yes, the rural advisor was frustrated she got no SP meetings during her tenure and publicly stated that she thought a native person should be doing the job.
OT (sorta)
@ICVillages
I C U in the forum! Ok, that was too cutesy, sorry. But I do see your name and will have a PM to you by the time this gets posted. Just look at the top left of the page, and it should say “you have 1 (or 2 or whatever) messages” Just click on that.
(you might have to refresh the forum page)
later,
Nan
HobojohnNo Gravatar (07:40:18) :
Ann Coulter on Larry King last night said Bristol Palin should either marry or put her baby up for adoption. Let’s see if Mama Grizz attacks Coulter.
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Palin’s gonna crack under all this pressure!
Thanks for the link Alaska PI…..I’ll go check it out. Gosh, it sure is busy up there, lol…….how many hours of daylight do you have now?
@ everyone
If anyone has links to articles or previous Mudflats posts (about the energy vs food crisis) could you give me a holler? We are trying to document a timeline of information and events and it would be a big help.
thanks,
Nan
Say No TO Palin In Politics
HobojohnNo Gravatar (07:40:18) :
Ann Coulter on Larry King last night said Bristol Palin should either marry or put her baby up for adoption. Let’s see if Mama Grizz attacks Coulter.
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Palin’s gonna crack under all this pressure!
Thanks for the link Alaska PI…..I’ll go check it out. Gosh, it sure is busy up there, lol…….how many hours of daylight do you have now?
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Oh, for the good ol’ days, when AC’s jaw was wired shut. (anyone know why it was? Just wondering is all)
Say No TO Palin In Politics (08:01:47) :
Hah!, excellent! – methinks Lisa is a lot smarter than SP. Not too difficult I know, visions of SP spitting turkey feathers.
After attending dinner with Senator Murkowski and being able to talk to her one on one, I expect to see her and Senator Begich working together, “for all of Alaska” on more joint proposals. I was able to thank her for not forgetting about our region (Southeast Alaska) and am extremely happy to hear the latest regarding our villages out West. She truly cares about Alaska. It is also interesting to note, that the dinner was sold out and the large room was packed with not only Republicans, but also major Democrats….yes, the majority were women from both parties. Those two Senators working together for Alaskan’s are a dynamo pair. We are lucky to have them. Now that is leadership!!!!
In keeping that in mind….it’s going to come down to the women in Alaska who are going to step out front and rally against Queen Gino if she attempts to run against Murkowski and/or tries for a second term as Gino.
In the world of politics, it’s hard for a man to run against or say anything negative against his opponent, when she is female. That’s why I keep on saying, “it’s the strong women” of Alaska that will be out on the front line. No worries….their will be plenty of us.
My terminology might not be right and is not meant to create offense – but to help those outside of AK understand better.
Info-
There is 262 villages – what the feds ended up calling a ‘tribe’ for lack of a better word. Some ‘villages’ are totally related to other villages but for the politics of things are different entities entirely. Each recognized by the feds as a seperate organization or ‘nation’.
There are 12 regional corporations tend to follow the ethnic lines a little more.
There are lots of exceptions but this gives those of you trying to wade through a little more info.
How many are in need-no real way to tell easily.
Hope this helps
Can’t wait to see GVS duking it out with Ann C, re: Bristol should’ve put her baby up for adoption. Wonder if it’ll be pay per view?
Scientology and Fundamentalist Christians – strange bedfellows, indeed.
I can see the Village from my House (07:43:26) :
CRFlats, Martha Unalaska, Nan and InJuneau,
I have joined the forum, still trying to figure out how it works, but I just wanted to let you know. I haven’t figured out yet how to PM you.
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You can also just click on someone’s name, that brings you to their profile….and under actions…click on send personal message.
So glad that the Senators – Begich and Murkowski – have stolen SP’s thunder! I can just imagine what she’ll try to say as the cameras are rolling (do you think she’ll be in those spiky shoes with all that snow??), “We are so also thrilled too here in the Villages to progress the solutions to also there in the Villages with our great Native heritage that The Dude shares also there in the Villages (head spinning, turkey feathers flying) also too.”
ROTFLMAO!!
I wonder how Sarah will spin Ann into part of that elitist gotcha attack media???
Attacking her own side, should be real fun.
Maybe Hobojohn was joshing, can’t find specific Ann Coulter comment on Bristol Palin anywhere.Tried you tube etc. Would have thought it would be headlines by now.
UK LadyNo Gravatar (08:45:00) :
Maybe Hobojohn was joshing, can’t find specific Ann Coulter comment on Bristol Palin anywhere.Tried you tube etc. Would have thought it would be headlines by now.
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I watched it here
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/20/lkl.coulter.long.cnn
It’s towards the end.
Bristol first mentioned at 17:49.
Charity Navigator has a report on Samaritan’s Purse, including compensation to Rev Graham at
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4423
Lance the Boil
Thanks for link. Watched the last 7 minutes or so. That woman has a small bag of fetid pus for a heart. Her breath must stink.
Can’t believe she even vocalised that! Even I feel sorry for Bristol on that one. Perhaps that will give GINO pause for thought about who she is pallin’ with.
Thank you Irishgirl. That is helpful.
There are 227 Federally recognized Tribes in Alaska. This only happend in the last decade or so, this status. Under the Clinton Administration, a singular act by the Asst. Secretary of the Bureau of Indian Affairs Ada Deer in 1997 changed our relationship with the federal government forever.
A Menominee Indian, Ada made the federal designation of our communities in Alaska, designating them Tribes in Washington’s eyes. This helped so much since our relationships with the State of Alaska has always been confusing. This also opened up federal funding we were traditionally ineligible for, in terms of the trust responsibility the Federal Government is responsible for. Health and human services, justice and public safety, education and training just to name a few.
There was such a void in services because the State was unwilling (and remains so) but it has changed so much, especially since the Feds are willing to let Tribal self-determination lead the programs.
That Governor Palin claimed she attempted to work out a visit with Emmonak may be true – but she or her staff only concentrated on trying to reach the City Office of Emmonak, an office that could only remain open one week out of the month because they could not afford to light and heat the operation. They were talking to a cold and dark wall.
Why they did not try to reach the IRA / Tribal office as an alternate, especially since they are the ones that administer the social services, illustrates the disconnect between the State and Tribes.
OK don’t boot me out of the mud if I admit something pwease! I have heard the name Ann Coulter several times and never heard her speak, and that was just the first and probably last time. Is she always so condescending when she speaks to people? I know now why I have never really been interested in politics, it is crazy.
@ Tewise
I’ve only recently heard her myself, so I’m in (almost) the same boat. But from what I understand, she’s always like that. Except for the times when she’s *really* hateful.
Scary, huh.
You might want to check out the Margaret & Helen blog (I think there’s a link on the right hand side of this page)
Frankly, she’s … well, she’s somethin’ else.
Okay thank you Nan I will do that, my jaw hurts because it stayed drop almost through that whole interview thing. unbelievable. Well I can say one thing I don’t thank goober head has a prayer chance against her. Only positive spin I could come up with, although I think that Coulter person is dead wrong in what she said.
Nan – sorry, only just seen your question, apparently Ann Coulter broke her jaw last Oct/Nov in a bad fall. (Shame). From what I’ve seen of her, they should have made the wiring permanent.
Maybe God was giving her a hint.
Hey Nan, Since there’s no risk of being OT on this thread, I want to bring your (and InJuneau’s) attention to the black helicopter post on Halcro’s blog. In the comments is a photo that has Piper front and center in a very cute knit hat. Probably not knit by Sarah (hahahahhaahaha), but possibly hand spun? Also.
OK, back to the needles… (currently knitting a stash scarf)
RE: Samaritan’s Purse: My husband is Jewish and Jewish charities just give, they don’t make anyone sit through a sermon or read their pamphlets. Catholic organizations too just do their jobs for the most part.
Tying help to participation in religious services is just so anti-Jesus!!
they should convert by example which is what Jesus would do.
Give them food and love and care and they might ASK about the god that motivates these people to help.
Sarah is cookin’ up quite a “pot ‘o pals” isn’t she ?? How in the world she thinks she can serve up that fragmented stew to the masses is beyond me. re: Ann Coulter/broken jaw….. aren’t most broken jaws caused by a fist blow ?? I do not condone violence of any kind. …………but with a vile mouth like hers…….just sayin’.
UK LadyNo Gravatar (09:09:01) :
Lance the Boil
Thanks for link. Watched the last 7 minutes or so. That woman has a small bag of fetid pus for a heart. Her breath must stink.
Can’t believe she even vocalised that! Even I feel sorry for Bristol on that one. Perhaps that will give GINO pause for thought about who she is pallin’ with.
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Me either. But….. it sure puts 2 right wingers are opposite sides of the same issue. Wonder if GINO will respond (through Meg, of course).
Sure do miss the edit feature…….
’2 right wingers ON opposite sides………..’
Lance the Boil
She will be asked what she thinks of Coulter’s comment, lets see what word salad she comes up with. I think this little spat could end up being very funny. No doubt she is furious, and from one of her own acolytes too.
@I can see the Village from my House (07:43:26) :
Hopefully you’ve figured out how to PM by now. In not, you can go to the Members list and find a person’s name and then click on the link toward the bottom that says “Send this member a personal message.” which is under the Additional Information section. OR, you can find anywhere where they’ve posted and look for the “IM” bubble under their icon on a posted comment and click on that to get to the same send a PM page. CU over there!
@wired differently (09:37:19) :
Thanks for the “black copter” heads up. I actually read it late last night. Interesting… (and more than just slightly scary also too).
UK LadyNo Gravatar (09:57:50) :
Lance the Boil
She will be asked what she thinks of Coulter’s comment, lets see what word salad she comes up with. I think this little spat could end up being very funny. No doubt she is furious, and from one of her own acolytes too.
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Oh, yeah. Sarah makes me weep with frustration, then turns around and has me laughing my a$$ off. Thank God she’s still good for ‘entertainment value’ even while she pretends to be the Governor.
@wired differently (09:37:19) :
Oh, and welcome to the stash club (NOT in any way realted to SJ’s type of stash!). I think we should set up a new Forum thread if we don’t fit just in the Crafters’ Club one (although my bet is most of those crafters have similar stashes too!).
Laurie (07:42:06) :
As a Canadian, I readily admit I dont know all about the US and her politics.
However, lately reading many blogs I feel nervous. The rabid right wing, is becoming even more rabid by the day. When someone like Alan Keyes will announce his thoughts that Obama is a communist…Rush Limbaugh spouting his hateful rhetoric. That horrific cartoon in the New York Post…well it leaves me wondering what the quieter nut cases are planning.
I read comments on different sites like Town Hall and others that hint that he should be shot. Its frightening, because there are so many nut cases out there.
Someone please tell me I am worrying about nothing.
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No, Laurie, unfortunately, I believe you are right, and I totally agree with you. The right-wing Taliban GOP is trying to stir up their crazies (and if they succeed, they will innocently say ‘who, meeee? I didn’t SAY anything’…)
I am personally fearing that one day they will succeed in offing President Obama – he is too innocent and believing in the good of people, too accessible in his forays into the crowds – and then, ALL H*LL WILL BREAK LOOSE!
We will have another Civil War, because the ‘blacks’ have finally someone in the WH, they feel like they FINALLY have some acceptance, and they will NOT sit still if anything happens to him. Many, if not most, Dems will not sit still. There will be a HUGE uprising, and a HUGE blood letting. It will be good to be FAR AWAY from here then!
Just checked on CBN news (I googled that) to check if they had a story of SP and Graham; sure enough. I would advise you if you read it to gird your loins………it is saying that residents in Marshall and Mission ? are having the desperate crisis…..also giving all credit to Palin, you’ve got to read it. I don’t know where they got their info, but it definitely is slanted.
@wired differently (09:37:19) :
I took a look at that hat (it is cute, made by grandma maybe?). Not sure if it’s handspun or not, but I hear there’s a good yarn store out in Palmer so maybe someone popped over to get nice yarn. And there are tons of yarn stores in Anchorage. Though since GINO’s rarely here, I’m pretty sure she didn’t go yarn shopping in our awesome one!
http://www.alternet.org/election08/99661/sarah_palin’s_troopergate_scandal_reveals_her_fundamentalist_street_cred/
www(dot)andrewhalcro(dot)com/van_susteren_scientology_and_sarahpac
www(dot)shannynmoore(dot)wordpress.com/2009/02/19/palin-pallin-with-preacher/
So we have preacher who helped GINO run for VP, GVS involement with preacher, GVS and husband scientologists & her husband has a crush on GINO, and maybe did SARAHPAC! What e evil mess!
Yes, I was seroius about Ann Coutler saying Bristol should either marry or put her baby up for adoption. The video is at CNN/Larry King site.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/02/20/lkl.coulter.long.cnn
She is being interviewed by Joy Behar. Ann’s point was that 80% of prison inmates were raised by single mothers. Proof to Ann that single mothers are hazardous.
Small Steps: “We are so also thrilled too here in the Villages to progress the solutions to also there in the Villages with our great Native heritage that The Dude shares also there in the Villages (head spinning, turkey feathers flying) also too.”
You got it down; new career for you: teaching palinese! Thanks for the laugh.
HaHa, AC attacking GINO ! Wonder if the “mother Pit bull” will rise up? I can see wingnut’s head’s exploding trying to figure this one out.
Its bad that she picked on poor Bristol….but she does have her book to promote and isn’t it about the evils of unwed mother’s? And since GINO has pushed Bristol out there as Poster child for Unwed mother’s, it make’s sense AC attacked, frankly I’m surprised she waited so long.
Election 2010 wear?
http://www.cafepress.com/sarahsatanpalin
http://www.cafepress.com/sarahpalin101
Oh you guys need to check out Gryphen’s report today about the alleged affair of GINO & Brad Hanson….
How could it be considered and affair, if nobody had sex?” asked one of my friends. And the other one said, “Trust us, they consummated the relationship.”
http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2009/02/all-we-need-to-know-about-sarah-palin.html
Is Britta Hanson his daughter?
crystalwolf aka caligrlNo Gravatar (10:36:40) :
it make’s sense AC attacked, frankly I’m surprised she waited so long.
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Especially since GINO replaced her as ‘Hot Poster Girl’ for the GOP, while her jaw was wired shut.
I like the idea of a “stash” thread!
@ Tewise
I finally watched (some of) the Ann Coulter on Larry King video. She was pretty tame, really. You can also look on YouTube for video if you really want to; you might want a strong drink afterwards, though.
Omigawd! I just saw the hat Piper is wearing – I think I have that yarn in my stash somewhere. Or something very, *very* similar. Wild. (it was on SALE, discontinued!) lol
Since we “can’t” go OT, here’s a heart-warmer for everyone (husband sent it to me):
http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=914609 Somehow, the kids got it right.
@ Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble
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Especially since GINO replaced her as ‘Hot Poster Girl’ for the GOP, while her jaw was wired shut.
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That’s IT! You just might have hit the nail on the head. Coulter’s head there, too.
Been waiting for a good time to post this site re: Separation of Church and State, and given the actions of SP and Rev. Graham this may be a good time. The site is: http://www.ffrf.org/quiz/ffrfquiz.php
Here you will find a quiz to test what you know about the issue, and if you click on the link to quiz answers at the bottom of the page you will see what the truth is. (When I took it the link to score my answers did not work so I had to do my own score, which was not as good as I expected it to be.)
I think knowing this info is important because SP and the rest of the crazy Christian fundamentalists seem to believe that the US was formed to be a Christian country and that the founding fathers included “God” in their documents. They think that only Christains are worthy of being a US citizen, it seems, and not any Christian at that, but only the New Born Again variety.
So, take the test, learn the truth about what the United States is really all about and has been from the beginning so that these crazies can be stopped when they start spouting their doctrines as truth.
Hudson Elizabeth
Thanks for that link, Nan.
I turn AC off always but was surfing and Joy Behar had some great lines.
Joy asked what is this about conservative woman having more fun in bed. Ann said they are more serious and don’t sleep around with every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Joy replied, oh you mean those whoring Democratic women who are in bed with every guy.
AC said Obama turned out to have the same war policies as Bush and fooled all the people. Joy said, Oh so now he’s torturing people?
Think Progress Reports:
Palin Campaign Manager: Palin ‘Cringed At The Idea’ Of Reading A Gay-Friendly Children’s Book»
Last fall, media reports alleged that Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) had tried to ban books from the local library while mayor of Wasilla. The McCain campaign countered that under Mayor Palin “not one book was banned, period,” while Palin insisted that her inquiries into removing books from the shelves were strictly “rhetorical.”
In a new biography of Palin released this week, Trailblazer: An Intimate Biography of Sarah Palin, her former campaign manager details Palin’s disgust at the idea of a gay-friendly book. During her 1996 mayoral campaign, Palin questioned the local library director about the “content and selection” of the library’s books. [p. 76]
One book that Palin questioned as not being “appropriate for the public library” was Daddy’s Roommate, a story about a young boy whose father is gay and moves in with his partner. Palin’s campaign manager at the time, Laura Chase, urged Palin to read the book before passing judgment:
I found it to be a sensitve book about showing love for additional family members. I took the book to show the other council members and said I felt it was inoffensive and suggested for everyone to read it, but there were not takers. I said, ‘Sarah why don’t you take it home and read it.’ I could tell by her body language she cringed at the idea.I was shocked. It blew my mind that she wouldn’t look at it. [p. 77]
Palin said the the book should be kept behind the library reference desk, telling Chase that “it shouldn’t be in a place where kids can get it without their parents knowing.” [p. 77]
It’s not surprising that Palin “cringed” at a harmless depiction of a loving gay couple. Palin staunchly opposes marriage equality, publicly supports her church’s promotion of a program designed to “help” gays live as heterosexuals, and maintains that people are gay because they choose to be.
Are there any openly gay Scientolgists ??
@ MudPup
Whoa! Calm down, take a breath as Alaska Pi and Ann Strongheart would say. You are making a LOT of assumptions in your worries. Things do look bad when you read the right blogs and view those stupid anti-everything good emails that some right wing nut sits around typing up in HUGE letters. It is disgusting isn’t it, because it’s all out in the open now? We didn’t really want to know about these creepy folks with too-radical-for-most agendas? I share your pain, but I also share the loss of my well intentioned oblivion prior to the election which brought out so many voices due to the horror of SP – voices and minds which had not been previously engaged in politics much, if at all.
They have always been there, they are just getting vocal and for many, just coming into our awareness. There are some really creepy things going on due to the last 8 yrs of black helicopters and back room deals w/ everyone except the American people. Part of this effort on the right was orchestrated to give these creeps a voice – because most of them can’t write to save their lives, nor can they speak well. They can’t do Letters to the Editor, form political groups, speak or host events. They are nasty, angry, selfish and mean – and did I mention mostly not very bright? Don’t forget hiding behind a whack job interpretation of religion. So by Rovian types working on all levels to obstruct and scare everyday people, they were pointed to the Internet, blogs, and given the task of writing emails with HUGE letters, twisted facts, and faux history & political events. They are pawns by the whack jobs who manipulate through fear – the ones who have been in power for 8 years.
There are awesome, hard working, loving, generous Republicans who don’t have anything to do with these slimy tactics from above. You will NEVER find me calling Republicans anything but their party name, but I will call a right wing whack job a right wing whack job.
We progressives have also changed in 8 years as well. We don’t sit back and “think” as much – we ACT. We are more engaged and more involved than before. We aren’t as “dreamy”, and we are angry, too.
Have faith and be part of the change. There will be some really icky things that pass since the tiger is loose now – but remain active in, and hopeful, that our culture needed this catharsis for change to come. This all didn’t happen overnight and we are part of the story. Be safe, be well and think of PO everyday, knowing that he is smarter than you give him credit for! Give him your support in every way possible, whenever you can.
Since Hubbard invented it, he got to change it as he saw fit:
L. Ron Hubbard alters position on gays and lesbians:
In 1967, perhaps in response to the groundbreaking work of Evelyn Hooker and subsequent researchers into human sexuality, Hubbard wrote:
“It has never been any part of my plans to regulate or to attempt to regulate the private lives of individuals. Whenever this has occurred, it has not resulted in any improved condition….Therefore all former rules, regulations and policies relating to the sexual activities of Scientologists are cancelled.”
Hudson, I took the test. Everyone should. I did well, but I am a civil liberties /Supreme Court junkie.
i posted this earlier and don’t see it.. sorry if it is a repost
Conservatives4Palin website have an article about her and the good reverend visiting rural Alaska..
One of the posters (Andre T) mentioned Samaritan’s Purse was recently booted from the Better Business Bureau
Scroll down to the middle of page conservatives4palin(dot)com
UPDATED: Governor Palin Heading For the Bush
(Hoorah rants seemed to have dropped off after Andre T’s posting)
AndreT said…
I just checed the Better Business Bureau in NW North Carolina and found this.
BBB Reliability Report for
Samaritan’s Purse
BBB Accreditation revoked on 1/23/2009
Seems odd that it would get revoked
www(dot)nwnc(dot)bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=1507
According to the link.. I think he/she is right.. more creepiness to add to the mix
@crystalwolf aka caligrl (10:44:30) :
I believe that is a correct guess on the parentage of Track’s GF, as I recall from past posting here and elsewhere.
InJuneau (11:27:44) :
Those Palins sure do like to keep it in the family don’t they.
The same Britta Hanson that works in SP’s office ??
UK Lady – it’s a hillbilly thing…….plus they can alway’s use that personal dirt to make sure you remain a “team player”
OK, so for you craft stashers out there, there’s now a new Froum thread: http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,6385.msg59263/topicseen.html#new
I took the test, didn’t do *too* badly, but not as well as I’d have liked (15 right) Two, I should have known, a few were just guesses.
Lance – it was good, wasn’t it?
Nan
Oops, Forum thread…
AND
@austintx (11:34:23) :
Yes, that one…
Am I being paranoid here or what? I first thought, ok, get involved because I think she is so very unqualified to be the Governor of Alaska. Then came the big surprise….VP Nomination. Got more involved, NOT only is she not qualified to be our Governor. Especially NOT qualified to be the VP canidate. Now I am of the mind set…..throw on the “Good guy super power Cape” to save NOT only America….BUT the WORLD! Am I being too extreme here? I feel she is a danger to all concerned, I don’t want her in any political office after we boot her out of Alaska’s politics. It’s to the point….”Save the World….don’t relect Queen GINO! I think I will choose a bright red cape!
austintx
Gotta be honest, it seems to work. Here in the UK, there would be kiss and tell stories, ex best friend stories, spurned lover stories etc, etc., etc., coming at you from every red top that had got anyting over £50 in their seedy little back pockets for a slush fund, plus they’d back the stories up with covertly taken mobile phone pics, vids.
Good ones from Gryphen’s blog, regarding the “book” and the AK villages in need:
Sarah and Brad (Hanson) would become good friends. They enjoyed politics, and Brad would eventually win a seat on the Palmer City Council. Years later. after Sarah was nominated as a vice-presidential candidate, the National Enquirer alleged that they had an affair after Sarah became mayor, an accusation that was vociferously denied by both sides.(Chapter five pg.70)
Okay now to divulge a little bit of “behind the scenes” blogging information. I was contacted by John South, the National Enquirer reporter who wrote that Palin affair story. He was chasing another rumor that I was not very helpful with, but while I had him on he phone I asked him about this article. He said that they had been unable to confirm this story in Wasilla itself, but had tracked down a few people outside of Alaska who were willing to confirm it. And then he told me to keep in mind, that nobody had threatened legal action over the revelation nor had Governor Palin herself ever gone on record to address it.
Now flash forward to my family room just last week. Somehow this story came up during my conversations with some political friends and I offered that I had heard that while Palin may have had feelings for Brad Hanson that it may never have been consummated. My two very knowledgeable friends from Wasilla both laughed out loud. (Now in my defense I was simply offering up another rumor that I had heard to see if there was any validity to it.)
“How could it be considered and affair, if nobody had sex?” asked one of my friends. And the other one said, “Trust us, they consummated the relationship.”
I have no direct information about this possible interlude, and can not say if it really happened one way or the other. But my friends have been pretty spot on throughout this whole situation, so take that for what it is worth.
So there is your morning dose of Sarah Palin scandal. Now I have to go read some Shakespeare to cleanse my mental palate.
(BTW Sarah is supposed to have a press conference at 9:00 this morning before she and the Christian “A” Team head off to save the wrong villages in the wake of the preemptive help that Mark Begich and Lisa Murkowski have already provided to the correct ones. What is it they say about timing?)
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Oh, happy day! Let that light shine on her like a
spotlightSpanish Inquisition.Oh, sigh. Not Daddy’s Roommate again… yes, of course, gay parents are an affront to god, as opposed to the, uh, escapades of the good christian Palins, Heaths, Hansons, Johnstons, et al.
@InJuneau and Nan: Stash club!! I’m in! But I try to stay out of the forum– if I hung out there I’d never have time to knit! Inspired by you I attempted a sort of my stash this morning. Managed to sort the roving from the yarn from the dust bunnies, but that’s about as far as I got. I felt old sweaters and cut ‘em up to make other things, too. i have a mountain of sweaters in a corner of my little parlor. Yeah, we probably should move this to the forum.
wired differently
What is ‘felt a sweater’?.
Just take a look at all the tabloids when you are at the ck.out at the grocery store…….I did it just last nite !! Ms. Hanson got that job for 2 reasons…….keep her dad quiet and keeping tabs on Track. How does SP get any work done juggling all her B.S. ?? Like a hamster on a wheel…….faster , faster……..
The need Vent!
I am off to pick up my computer, but had to share this with The mudpuppies!
I’ve been quiet these past few days b/c I’m on a borrowed computer that is kinda crazy, so wasn’t able to “Vent” properly I guess….my BF said last I went on a tangent sleep talking ranting about “effing GINO” and Stimulus bill and the Repulican taliban! He said, it was like you were writing on the mudflats blog!
So thank you AKM and fellow Mudpuppies who allow those who need to vent, VENT!
Jane in Miami (06:41:06)
re: timeline
Think it may be useful to include Denis Zaki’s trip to interview and document.
Could include how some of the funds were raised.
@ crystalwolf aka caligrl ROFLOL That’s the best laugh I’ve had in weeks!
@el from Saskatchewan Agreed! That would be the last half of January. Does anyone have links to those posts? I haven’t seen an “archive” link to anything after November, or whenever Mudflats went to this new site.
Nan
I didn’t realize in our conversations when people said “borough” they were referring to an area most of us call a “county”, lol, I thought it meant a small village or community.
I also just read that Ann’s “borough” named Wade Hampton, is THE poorest in Alaska and the 8th poorest in the United States. Both of the villages Palin is going to are also in that borough.
http://en.wikipedia.orgwikiPoorest_places_in_the_United_States
hey did ya know we bloggers made the Emmonak Wikipedia page? talk about world wide embarrassment for the Gov.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmonak,_Alaska
somebody needs to add Ann’s good work on the Nunam Iqua page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunam_Iqua,_Alaska
these are the cities in Ann’s borough……
* Alakanuk
* Chevak
* Chuloonawick
* Emmonak
* Hooper Bay
* Kotlik
* Marshall
* Mountain Village
* Nunam Iqua (formerly Sheldon Point)
* Ohogamiut
* Pilot Station
* Pitkas Point
* Russian Mission
* Scammon Bay
* St. Mary’s
@UK Lady. I take old wool sweaters and put them in the washing machine (in a pillow case, so as not to gum up the works with fuzz) and do on purpose what many of us have done by accident. When you agitate the wool in hot, soapy water, the fibers fuse and become felt. Then you can take the sweater, cut it up and make hats, bags, whatev’. This blog will give you an idea of what we do.
http://www.threadbanger.com/post/9532/weekly-diy-roundup-felted-sweater-wool-projects
@InJuneau: I posted! Had to dig deep in the email archives to find my password.
@UK Lady: at the risk of annoying people with this topic– technically what I do with already knit items is “fulling” not felting. You “felt” by working pre-spun wool roving until it becomes felt. Had to clarify that in case there’s a purist felter out there, frowning and tsk’ing my sloppy use of language.
@Women Who Run With The Wolves (11:41:22) :
Am I being paranoid here or what? I first thought, ok, get involved because I think she is so very unqualified to be the Governor of Alaska. Then came the big surprise….VP Nomination. Got more involved, NOT only is she not qualified to be our Governor. Especially NOT qualified to be the VP canidate. Now I am of the mind set…..throw on the “Good guy super power Cape” to save NOT only America….BUT the WORLD! Am I being too extreme here?
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No, you are not being too extreme. I live in Ireland and when I researched SP and discovered Mudflats after her nomination, I was appalled and really frightened by the prospect of her as VP and possibly President. I just could not believe it…..I had this horrible surreal feeling until the election. And it really irritates me when certain Republican blogs or comment’s sections in newspapers, tell us to butt out. It affects us too.
@wired differently (12:14:17) :
YEA! I noticed. I’ll post along there later today about what all I have stashed! We’ll try to keep you relatively Forum free if you need to keep up on that knitting and fulling and all! (And there’s actually no OT on the Bedtime thread, so we’re okay!)
@Hobojohn(10:35:24) :
She is being interviewed by Joy Behar. Ann’s point was that 80% of prison inmates were raised by single mothers. Proof to Ann that single mothers are hazardous.
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Oh yes…yes I love that argument, yes I do…would Ms. Coulter care to calculate how many ABSENT FATHERS there are in those 80% of prison inmates with single mothers? Meh…
AC makes me sick with her idiotic reasoning…!!
Check out the photos and captions on this link:
http://www.adn.com/front/story/696338.html
44,000 lbs of food to Marshall and Russian Mission!
First of all, GREAT! Wow, that’s a lot of food and supplies!
I personally feel that perhaps these two communities have been “suffering in silence” and are truly as needy as our friends that have spoken up in Emmonak and Nunam Iqua and elsewhere. I’m happy that something is being done.
BUT, according the ADN article Russian Mission has 335 people, according to Wiki entry for Marshall they had nearly 370 as of the 2000 census. (I think that Emmonak is closer to 900 now and Nunam is nearly 250-300, but I don’t know for certain)
I also don’t know how much in pounds has been sent to Emmonak and Numan Iqua, but I bet it’s not nearly 22 TONS but we’ve still made a difference in those communities and GOOD JOB EVERYONE!
I’m getting closer to my point….Why did Sarah and Graham choose only these two communities if they had 22 TONS of food to deliver. That seems to be enough for maybe 10 suffering villages, not just two. That was my point, seems like overkill, but still a nice thought, but perhaps they should have made a “milk run” to villages all up and down the Yukon and elsewhere, not just to two.
I hope that the airlift will also assist in “spreading some of the wealth” to other villages in the immediate vicinity that may also have been suffering in silence. I know that the people in the villages have a strong sense of duty to others that live in the region, so I just hope that a snowmachine drive or some other sort of “food ferry” system is set up out there to share this AMAZING 44,000 POUNDS of food wealth with others.
A Chevy Suburban (on average) weighs 2.5 tons (5000 lbs). So this food donation is the equivalent of nearly 9 Chevy Suburbans. That’s a whole lot of food and supplies and I hope that it can get up and down the river to others that desperately need to share in the wealth.
Just something to think about. I wish I had a plane and a pilot’s license…..
@InJuneau: Did you look at the blog link I posted above? Awesome stuff! And by awesome I mean a little goofy, but very fun. Just the antidote to all the other crap we have to deal with.
Yeah, I guess I don’t have to worry about being OT (she said sheepishly). (cracking self up)
@ Irishgirl
“…I had this horrible surreal feeling until the election.”
Too many people felt this, too and the hair stood up on the back of their necks… I firmly believe (and I will fight every step of the way to get there) that this is one of the MAJOR reasons she will not make it. In my memory I have never heard anyone describe this particular phenomena with a politician, happening to so many at almost exactly the same time and in the same way.
We have a long road ahead to block her, but we are already on it and moving forward just as we should be. Remind yourself that there is something very palpably wrong with SP, and she can’t hide it. We can’t help those that have so much invested in their agenda to accept how flawed their candidate really is – it’s everyone else that we keep this in front of – every day, and in every way. She WILL not win. She’s a joke, she’s just a crafty and sly one and we don’t let her out of sight for one single minute.
“…the other crap we have to deal with…”
Like Ann Freaking Coulter!! Maybe I’ll knit her a gag and a strait jacket from my stash of barbed wire.
re: Dennis Zaki in timeline
Having problems checking mudflats archives. link to alaska report takes you to the search for dennis zaki trip
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/01/18/where-in-the-world-is-dennis-zaki-part-ii/
http://www.alaskareport.com/sphider/search.php?query=dennis+zaki+trip&search=1
Have you all seen this one yet? The crazies of Alaska who got this shite governor elected, hard at work, organizing to support guns (instead of people) in church! Go team.
http://newsminer.com/news/2009/feb/20/fairbanks-group-will-bare-arms-support-gun-rights/
Sarah will never go after Ann Coulter- both are hateful, right-wing nutball publicity hounds, and professional courtesy would preclude a dispute.
By the way, does anyone else look at Coulter’s giant adam’s apple and think “guy in drag” ?
Thanks Irishgirl…the frustration level here is high. I had a group of Juneau people at my place last week, the big conversation was Queen GINO. One sweet young girl asked me if I felt like it was enough to make me crazy, having GINO representing us….females. I swear the feelings from women all over the State are anger, fear, frustration and pissed off at this fraud. I feel lucky to be in an area, that on a daily basis, we get a good cross section of Alaskan’s traveling thru our community. Alaskan’s are pissed off from Southeast to the Southwest part of Alaska.
FYI from Immoral Minority Comments:
Anonymous said…
Contributing writers (especially bloggers) are being sought for a book about Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin and her media coverage, especially pertaining to her many “gates” –trooper gate, turkey gate, bridge to no where gate, rally gate, etc. Please email pjc@dejazzd.com.
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Go Get’em Bloggers!
Wired differently
Thank you so much. Crap!! have you any idea how many ‘felted’ woollies I have chucked out in my non domestc goddess life?.
The visceral fear of SP grabbed me by the throat the very day Mcdamnyou picked her for VP. Thank heavens I found mudflats straight off. I find it weird that this fright hits mainly women and switched on men i.e. Cafferty.
Glad someone is compiling this and hope the truth gets out to a much wider audience!
wired differently (12:14:17) :
@UK Lady. I take old wool sweaters and put them in the washing machine (in a pillow case, so as not to gum up the works with fuzz) and do on purpose what many of us have done by accident. When you agitate the wool in hot, soapy water, the fibers fuse and become felt. Then you can take the sweater, cut it up and make hats, bags, whatev’. This blog will give you an idea of what we do.
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My mom knit a beautiful, elaborate sweater of silk and wool yarn from yarn we got in London from a picture off the front of a magazine. Then, I got a stain the size of a nickel on it and asked her, after trying myself, if she could get the stain off. She spaced, put it in the washer and we got a very expensive cat blanket. She’ll never live that one down.
Yes, the prospect of Palin getting elected did elicit fear across the world. Thanks to Martha, Women who runs with wolves and UK Lady….You all expressed what I felt! Only better. I’m here for the long haul, I want to see that stupid, vacuous woman forever out of politics.
On a nicer note, I am delighted to see supplies arriving to the villages.
love the religion/history test.
i am a “constitutional scholar” according to the results.
i reacquired my constitutional facts as a response to all things republican in the last 8 years.
what i’d forgotten from schooling, i relearned because knowledge will win out.
and what we need in this “war” with the uninformed zealots, is firsthand knowledge of just how this country was founded.
take the test.
relearn.
prevail.
el from Saskatchewan
Thanks!
I added the Dennis Zaki story.
Anything else?
http://www.anonymousbloggers.com/timeline.cfm
UKlady wrote….I find it weird that this fright hits mainly women and switched on men i.e. Cafferty
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it’s my opinion that most women “instinctively know” what type person Palin is as a female……..ages old……it’s only the females fools that she hoodwinks……..as for the guys…..same thing, the smart ones know she’s easy, those noble enough wouldn’t touch “that” with a ten foot pole…….those smart guys think with their real head, before the lower one, lol. They are out there.
@AKPetMom (12:30:50) :
The rest of the article is just as interesting… folks there didn’t know til..? and were not told much?
Count on your good ole pragmatic neighbors in those villages to accept the gov’s foolishness and food with grace and dignity and let’s work at making sure every other neighbor gets supplies too.
There are Alaskans all over the state sending stuff out- let’s push to find out where and when…
@wired differently
“Yeah, I guess I don’t have to worry about being OT (she said sheepishly). (cracking self up)”
Oh, you are so baaa-aaa-aad!
(insert maniacal laughter)
44000 pounds for about 700 people in the two villages is about 63 pounds per person. That sounds like a lot until you start eating it– when I used to backpack in the Brooks Range, I had to carry about a hundred pound pack starting off (including food) for a two week walk. I bought fancy light- weight food at REI and I made my load as light as I possibly could– I treated every ounce like it was a pound.
63 pounds per person might last a month or so– I don’t know– something like that. Depends on the food. I just went to Costco and bought a few things and it weighs 60 lbs! I don’t know how much of the stuff being delivered to villages is actually food– some of it might be toilet paper, diapers, soap etc.
To this day I have not seen anything coming forth from the State of Alaska other than temporary band aids. It is nice and wonderful that relief is beginning to flow, but where are the long term solutions? Who’s got a plan? What’s in it?
I know when I packed our firs box it was pretty big (before I learned about the base price boxes…) and after loading it up I realized this wouldn’t be even a weeks worth of food (our family has 3 kids). It weighed about 40 pounds. So, 22,000 might help about but probably won’t hold them for a year either.
If anyone is interested in an hysterically funny, chapter-by-chapter review of Coulter’s latest literary effort….
http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/
SCORE!!!!!! I got 10 reusable grocery bags for 50 cents each at Walmart!!!! I’ll be sending them right up, Ann!
: )
@Bigpete,
I enjoyed that! I love Margaret and Helen.
notice the common threads that run through personalities of high profile repub conserv: never listens, talks over, interrupts, challenges all points of discussion, rude, full of themselves, promotes, and strokes themselves…coulter, limbaugh, hannity, o’reilly…palin has subdued these traits but they’re there nonetheless…plus the ignorance and stupidity on top of everything
Since this is an open thread….I saw this on Alaska Dispatch. Cannot decide if it is HILARIOUS or TERRIFYING but I guess we get an idea of the difference between a Mayor and a Community Organizer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMocEINn-E8
Lainey – yup……..you covered it…….also.too.
Bystander
If you are still about, yes, I have noticed the adams apple on A Coulter, noticed a little bitty, fuzzy top lip too. Hhhmmm………..
Dr. Patios
That was gobsmacking!! Surely that cannot be a verbatum transcript?.
wayney(11:22:20) :
The BBB changed Samaritan’s Purse to “no rating” and revoked its approval, because SP refused to answer BBB’s questionnaire. I have seen the questionnaire form, and it’s pretty neutral, very basic and similar to Charity Navigator, so I’m not sure why the organization refused.
austintx-thanx for the ‘shout out’ on the music video. UK Lady was the first to post a music video…a “shout out” to her!
UK Lady (14:11:43) :
Bystander
If you are still about, yes, I have noticed the adams apple on A Coulter, noticed a little bitty, fuzzy top lip too. Hhhmmm………..
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ROFL
UK Lady, I thought you were above that!
Lainey – sisnce you mentioned Hannity among the repub conservatives, you might get a chuckle out of this:
They played a tape of Hannity (Rick Sanchez CNN) discussing how he is spreading his portfolio around, and mentioned he had just converted some stock into gold boullion through Stanford’s company. Yes, the same one the FBI just found hiding out in VA! He went on and on about how helpful the folks at Stanfords were, etc, etc. etc. Wonder how much he got fleeced?
Ann Coulter has enormous feet according to Helen!
Just visiting over at Halcrow, and spotted a pic of GINO and daughter decked out in advertising gear for Arctic Cat:
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/van_susteren_scientology_and_sarahpac
Should a governor, any governor, be a bill board for a company his/her spouse is sponsored by? Are the expensive gear values declared as gifts on disclosure forms? Is this too petty, or just another instance of a governor who doesn’t behave as though the rules apply to her?
Didn’t I read they were spending $4400 on stuff to go with SP and friends? And no, I see where Graham is spending $65,000 or so – going to be delivered to “dozens of families”
I have the transcript going in a different window. OMG.
And THIS from ADN!:
“Now, as for personally what Sean and I have done as individuals to help in rural Alaska, in faith-based communities, you know I think, well I think Matthew 6:3 says it best. It’s a scripture that says, ‘let not your right hand know what your left hand is doing.’ If you’re going to do a personal charitable effort … what we do personally to support and tithe and offer assistance to some of these missions, I’m going to keep that to myself.”
1st of all, since when has “the right hand EVER known what the left was doing’ in that office?! and no one really wants to know what she’s doing personally (well, yes, we do, but not *that* much), they REALLY want to know what the heck she *will* be doing *as Governor*
muttering…
Listen to this, it is great!!
The Druid Song” by the Bobs: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=11136656
First chance I’ve had to post today, tryingto read allthe comments….
Nan (08:15:26) : Oh, for the good ol’ days, when AC’s jaw was wired shut. (anyone know why it was? Just wondering is all)
‘What had happen was’ Every time she opened her mouth, her tounge would slap her accross the face, so the only thing to do was to try to retrain it…guess it didn’t work after all ____________________________________
SmallSteps (08:37:08) : (do you think she’ll be in those spiky shoes with all that snow??)
YES! I mean she wore them while she was prego and walking in the snow with no prob ______
@Dr Patois Yes, the community organizer knows what s/he is doing.
Irish Girl – UK Lady was making an observation……..ugly is ugly.
For those of you living in Anchorage who are familiar with Jerry Prevo, they had him go along too on today’s Palin village trip– What a bunch of propaganda– This is becoming quite the religious event. You’d get the impression Alaska’s executive branch is one big happy evangelist family.
Minister Prevo was featured in an episode of “Repo Man– Stealing for a Living” where he helped repo a guy’s Cessna by jumping into the poor guy’s plane and flying off in it while the guy wasn’t watching. Not kidding– it really happened. I gave Shannyn Moore a copy of the tape. She can vouch for me.
Brian makes an appearance in the above video. Do look
@Austintx…Did you see my smiley?
CRFlats – Gov. Palins gear was personalized with her name , over the left breast area. When Greta von Scientoligist interviewed her at the Iron Dog , I saw it. Sarah in semi-cursive.
Irishgirl
HaHa – No I love a good old fashioned gossip as much as the next person.
Anyone over 18 is fair game if they act badly. Ugly is as ugly does in my book.
I have met a few people who hit all the branches on the ugly tree on the way down, but it they are good, nice people they become lovely in my eyes.
That quote was under the “Alaska Politics Blog: Palin talks to Reporters”
I just read (ADN) that Graham was bringing $65,000 ish of goods “to share with dozens of families”
Can they even fly a plane that big (to carry 44,000 lbs) into those small airports? (or landing strips?)
Nan
i wonder how much of those “goods” is propagnada?
UK Lady,
I enjoyed it as much as the next man.
Just took a quick look at the Artic Cat website……..no jacket for women even comes close to how nice the one Gov. Palin was wearing……..the one with custom embroidered “Sarah” on it. Irish Girl – I hope you know I was kiddin’.
Paula (11:05:23) commented, …”It’s not surprising that Palin “cringed” at a harmless depiction of a loving gay couple. Palin staunchly opposes marriage equality, publicly supports her church’s promotion of a program designed to “help” gays live as heterosexuals, and maintains that people are gay because they choose to be.”
This is one of the reasons I was concerned (and horrified) at the fire death of Darlene Miller, the Mat-Su hospice care nurse, back in January, only 3 weeks after the Wasilla Bible Church fire (reported in the ADN the week after). Her “life partner” is a Wasilla resident (and perhaps, native), a graduate of the college there.
It was perhaps too speculative for comfort when I first brought it up here at Mudflats, but it’s been in the back of my mind because of the “Daddy’s Roommate” story.
@CRFlats (14:27:35) :
Just visiting over at Halcrow, and spotted a pic of GINO and daughter decked out in advertising gear for Arctic Cat:
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/van_susteren_scientology_and_sarahpac
@austintx (14:44:39)
I believe, in the center background of that photo is GVS’s husband also decked out in Arctic Cat gear.
Again, Jerry Prevo, a guy who had been hired (or volunteered) to repo an airplane from someone who was broke, is now delivering food to villagers who are broke? If he’s lurking in villages, I’d have thought he’d be sneaking around in the dark trying to repo stuff like 4 wheelers, snow mobiles, and Piper Supercubs. Why the about face? After his nationally broadcast repo man fame, why’s he’s giving back? The only thing in common in these opposite events (taking and giving) is he gets lots of attention for himself either way– whether he repos from people who are broke, or “helps” them– either way he gets his face stuck in front of us on TV. What a great guy! And Palin’s First Choice for company.
The headline in the news should be “Palin and Repo Man Visit Villages.”
@ UK Lady (14:19:58) :
I have no idea whether or not that is truly a Wasilla city meeting transcript or not but OMG!!! I had tears in my eyes from laughing (as long as you don’t think about the fact that gave her the executive experience to be gov. and then VPOTUS).
I LOVE the expression Gobsmacked! I have only one friend (from London) who uses it. Shame, as it is so often the perfect expression.
Nan (14:29:53) :
And THIS from ADN!:
“Now, as for personally what Sean and I have done as individuals to help in rural Alaska, in faith-based communities, you know I think, well I think Matthew 6:3 says it best. It’s a scripture that says, ‘let not your right hand know what your left hand is doing.’ If you’re going to do a personal charitable effort … what we do personally to support and tithe and offer assistance to some of these missions, I’m going to keep that to myself.”
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“what we do personally to support and tithe and offer assistance to some of these missions, I’m going to keep that to myself”
How many ways are there to say “nothing”? We already know the Palin family does not tithe. She’s keeping that to herself, too.
video here.. palin in rural alaska going on and on http://www.conservatives4palin.com/
planes of food.. Graham made sure to mention the Alaskan Gov has been accesing the situation for “months, actually” to provide the right, proper way to help these people.. that he was just contacted this past weekend
somethin aint right here
Nan wrote: I just read (ADN) that Graham was bringing $65,000 ish of goods “to share with dozens of families”
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I haven’t read ADN yet, but I have to wonder if the goods “$” and weight might include his Evangelical propaganda?
Written to the inheritors of the Alaska Constitution
http://www.alaska.edu/creatingalaska/
Youngalaskans.org is doing their part as Alaska’s next generation:
http://youngalaskans.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/coya-2009-report.pdf
“ALASKA’S GOVERNMENT WILL PROMOTE STABLE, LONG-TERM ECONOMIC
PROSPERITY THAT BENEFITS THE DIVERSE COMMUNITIES AND CULTURES OF THE
STATE.”
“Alaska shall work with rural communities to provide the necessary
tools for development of renewable energy projects by 2012″ (Unanimously supported by all attendees)
btw.. i often peep in on pro-palin sites as to hear their swing on things.. and somehow they seem to get info early
I wont rant.. but this story makes my stomach churn as others have posted..
here she is in pretty pink (with fur on her collar.. I’m sure is not faux) with eloquent words and a preacher man.. planes of food.. we care .. we will make an inpact.. and the people receiving our donations will, in turn, make account of how “we” have helped them..
SOOO any bystander who didnt pick this story up months ago .. will see her as the shining angel that swooped in
as she climbs back aboard her surely plush, warm plane
and the preacher guy too.. If i hadnt followed this blog, amongst others, I may have been swooed into thinking .. what a kind hearted family woman.. the real deal!! unfortunately behind all those words is that smirk..
I just want this to all crash down.. I wonder how the Senator did .. wasnt he in Emmonak? hmm.. noones mentioning that guy..
just wrong and I’m a bible believing Christian.. i see right through it, sad
BUT at least they got food!!!!! Yeah! Hope it’s not creepy plastic packaged stuff though.. but at least food!!!
Aussie Blue Sky (15:10:28) :
“How have I helped?……. I’m going to keep that to myself.”
What Palin really wishes she could have kept to herself, was the fact that she hits up the State for $60 every time she makes an “official” long distance call-from the comfort of her house, I presume.
My mom raised me knowing that fair or unfairly, we are judged by the company we keep. I believe we can also judge GINO by the company she DOES NOT keep. A trip to rural Alaskan villages should be in the company of say, the Pres. of the Alaska Federation of Natives, rural legislators, and anyone in the leadership of Alaska Natives. She does not have a meaningful history of dialog with the Native Community and this instance shows that loud and clear. In many ways, the company she is bringing to the villages is so insulting that it may be the final straw.
yeah with this trip you can bet ya’ll paid those per diems today make sure she at least says thank you. unbelievable.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/138240
I am just livid. Spitting nails. Because Native leaders have criticized her lack of leadership and attention on this preventable crisis, she says that we need new leadership? Look in the mirror Sarah! Unbelievable.
I didn’t know Prevo was going out too, and she’s quoting scripture, so that makes it official, only Jesus saves – not Sarah.
If any folks have airplanes where Prevo’s headed, they better lock ‘em up.
This is the song that comes to mind when I think that it took over a month to respond.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y5SSilhN-8&feature=related
If you read the article on the ADN, you will notice she isnt going in the capacity of the GOV, it isnt “the state” she is going to christianize. She is making sure that everyone knows THESE PEOPLE are not the states responsibility.
Everyone should read this article in the ADN.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/138240
Forget her saying she is going to keep to herself what she has done personally, she doesn’t need to tell us, we know. What is much more outrageous is her pointing the finger at the First Alaskans and their leaders, implying it is their fault because they don’t get jobs! And as usual she contradicts herself and shows her ignorance of First Alaskans culture.
I don’t live in Alaska, so what I know about these villages and Alaska’s policies I have learned on this site. Correct me if I am wrong but I find her statements beyond insulting, they are lies. Am I correct in thinking that it is policies of Alaska that have destroyed the livelihoods of these villagers? Palin NEVER takes responsibility. I feel so horrible for these people in dire need to have to allow themselves to be belittled by the governor and accept the donations the Samaritan’s brought in. Shameful! I hope they know that not one of us believes a word she said.
Just posted a rant about Alaska being about much more than a gas pipeline. Feedback and comments from Alaskans and others would be welcome.
http://akmk.dailykos.com
tigerwine (14:26:37) :
Lainey – sisnce you mentioned Hannity among the repub conservatives, you might get a chuckle out of this:
They played a tape of Hannity (Rick Sanchez CNN) discussing how he is spreading his portfolio around, and mentioned he had just converted some stock into gold boullion through Stanford’s company. Yes, the same one the FBI just found hiding out in VA! He went on and on about how helpful the folks at Stanfords were, etc, etc. etc. Wonder how much he got fleeced?
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Awwww… I feel so bad for the guy…NOT!
I heard William Iggiagruk Hensley speak on the radio. Learned lots and appreciated his perspectives.
Willie Hensley will be on C-Span’s Book TV this weekend talking about his book:
Book TV on C-Span2 – Public Lives
Fifty Miles from Tomorrow
by William Iggiagruk Hensley
Upcoming Schedule:
Saturday, February 21, at 4:00 PM EST
Sunday, February 22, at 2:45 AM EST
Sunday, February 22, at 6:00 PM EST
About the Program: William Iggiagruk Hensley, recounts his childhood as a Native Alaskan and his tenures in the Alaska House of Representatives and State Senate. Mr. Hensley was the author of the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act, signed into law in 1971, which protected 44 million acres of land in Alaska from non-native and government acquisition and awarded $962.5 million dollars for ceding claims to the remaining land. This event was hosted by Hearthside Books at the Baranof Hotel in Juneau, Alaska.
About the Author: William Iggiagruk Hensley served four years in the Alaska House of Representatives and six years in the Alaskan State Senate. He assisted in establishing the Alaska Federation of Natives and has been the organizations executive director, director, president, and co-chair.
Excerpt from Palin’s inspirational speech in
“I am humbled to be here with so many good Alaskans and here in a land of great native heritage. Alaska is a family and Alaska natives, you’re the first family. Your grace that welcomed newcomers to this frontier yesterday; it let us forward in unity today. Wiith respect, with good stewardship of the land of your birth, with——–let us be united with one heart. ”
“Our natural resources are our lifeline and are commonly owned by all of us. We are unlike any other State in the Union. Here it is the people who are in charge.”
Humbled? I doubt it! Be united with anything resembling a heart? We know that’s not the case! Here it is the people who are in charge? That’s the biggest lie of all, but there are plenty where that came as we all know.
I thought of a good place for Palin’s lipstick – and it’s not on her lying mouth.
Is this going to classafied as a per diem trip or is it going to be a missionary trip? Just asking.
oops where’s the EDIT button? inaugural speech! But the typo is quite obvious – there is nothing inspirational about Palin except her ability to inspire hate and loathing in those who adore her, and a “twofer” – those who do not. She is so gross!
Just read the ADN article. Oh, my. I think she’s saying that the villages need to be emptied out, ’cause there’s no place for that subsistence thing in our economy not progressin’ the state. also. and those native leaders need to be shoved out on the ice floe to drift on over to Russia. also. so they can be replaced with young leaders who prefer doin’ somethin’ else, like workin’ for minimum wage in Wasilla, maybe washin’ my Suburban, keepin’ the turtle wax shiny and fresh.
you. can’t. make. this. stuff. up.
If Prevo shows up in town, just to be safe you might want to stick him in a straightjacket until he leaves– wouldn’t want him stealing stuff.
Didn’t I read the man that we sent to western Alaska wanted to go, and was told no, there was not going to be any photo’s or video? Why is it on conservatives4palin?
Governor Palin has had an ongoing relationship with Franklin Graham……..
http://www.alternet.org/election08/99661/sarah_palin%E2%8099s_troopergate_scandal_reveals_her_fundamentalist_street_cred/
“Kevin Merida reported in the Washington Post that when Palin met with the Alaska delegation after her nomination during the recent Republican National Convention, Rev. Prevo, a member of the delegation, said Palin asked them to pray for her. Then Prevo handed the governor his cell phone; it was Franklin Graham calling to congratulate her.”
@austintx,
This may have already been posted but the first 6 paragraphs provide the connecting dots for Palin, Graham, Prevo and how McCain came to have Palin as VP.
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2008/3255
If you read Adn, Sean says he was contacted by Graham on Sat, and said can I help, what did Gov. Palin do? Nothing! Nothing! Nothing!
You can watch “Governor Palin Talks About Food Drop” on Youtube…she has some major Tammy Faye Bakker mascara going…and so, she still talks like a hillbilly also too.
and I forgot, also too, that in the video, according to Palin the reason they are so hungry in rural Alaska is that she hasn’t let them know that there are job opportunities. Because they wouldn’t know otherwise, unless she told them. so, also still, too.
@ I can see the Village from my House
Can’t make myself go to ADN right now, are you saying she told the villages it was their fault and they need different leaders? Please tell me that I misunderstood that.
Oh, and Gino’s friend’s have had tax problems too. You Alaskans may already know this.
http://www.insurgent49.com/baxley_prevo.html
Even if Prevo was straight-jacketed, he could still swallow smaller items like wedding rings– be careful. Protect your belongings.
Did I hear?….”Let them eat moose!”
Hey, mudflatters–
I just stumbled upon a great political blog–it’s by an attorney, and he mulls over some of the major Federal gov issues in readable, clear, pragmatic terms. I found reading him educational, enlightening, and refreshing. Haven’t had the courage to comment yet because I suspect these people are Very, Very Smart, but I’m definitely going to lurk under the table, and scuttle away with whatever tidbits I can grab, and maybe nip a few ankles on my way out the door. Here’s the link, if anybody wants to lurk with me:
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/
@BodieP (16:37:18) :
hey, you’re no slouch yourself.
@Martha Unalaska
I kind of thought “inspirational” was a good one.
From the Oxdown Gazette:
Graham has had a presence in Alaska for years, with an office in Soldotna. Graham has a cabin [crossed out] luxury home near the proposed site of Pebble Mine, near Lake Clark.
One of my sources in the Palin administration told me that the governor hopes that her appearances in Marshall and Russian Mission with a high-profile evangelical icon such as Franklin Graham will solidify support for her new political action committee, from within the ranks of the conservative Christian Evangelical, Fundamentalist and Charismatic belief communities.
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I think Franklin Graham has worshipped at Prevo’s church when he is in Alaska; I’ll try to find that reference. I also thought I read that an Atlanta PR firm came up with the trip idea; perhaps it was in the same article.
Would one of the more experienced alaska relief hands go back a thread and give ak angel some encouragement?
oh, i hope that she goes to anonymous blogger now.
poor dear.
I hope she does too so we can know where she is at and what is needed.
Jee-ee-sus………I can smell the potpourii of Palins “pals” down here !! ……..and thats after the norther blows thru the cattle feed lots in north Texas !! Dang – what do you say anymore ?? Prevo ?? I won’t even look him up……..this is off the charts…….I will pray tonite for AK.
Found this on anonymousbloggers:
US Military will be at numerous Yukon villages in March to train and provide medical care- yea!
http://www.thetundradrums.com/news/show/4781
austintx:
You might imagine the stench here in Anchorage, Alaska (If you can smell it as far as Texas). I’m so happy God’s Repo Guy (of Airplanes), Jerry Prevo, was sent by God on a special mission to our impoverished villages so he could pray with them, feed them, and steal their aircraft from them. May the Lord Jesus Bless them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost . . .
Have any of you read the following interview? I am horrified by Palin’s disrepect. Does she not get how she comes off sounding? She truly disgusts me.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/138240
finally (maybe) (never fast enough for me) the under-handed, behind closed doors, under the table, dishonest, yada yada (you get the picture) are paying some dues
hannity incl
well to the credit of adn’s account
the comments .. i peered through the most recent and the oldest are all pretty palin-slammin!
they tried to post a pro-palin piece, as they know SP probably takes a peeking now and then.. and yet the commentors are all spilling the beans !
I tried to post the following on ADN regarding Palin’s comments today concerning her visit to rural Alaska with Mr. Graham but ADN didn’t allow my post:
“While reading Palin’s comments about her ongoing “concern” for rural Alaska, please keep the following facts in mind: 1) Walt Monegan warned last summer in his resignation letter about an impending crisis looming in rural Alaska for the upcoming winter. 2) The Rural Advisor quit in Oct. ’08 because she had been unable to get an appointment with Palin for 10 months; she also felt a Native Alaskan should have the post. 3) The Rural Advisor Post went unfilled until a few weeks ago. 4) Rural villages’ pleas to the Gov.’s office went unanswered, so Nick Turner gave a public plea for help in early January. The unusually cold winter, high fuel costs, and poor salmon harvest had created a crisis of starving vs freezing or both. 5) Not until the crisis reached national news proportions via CNN and other MSM…5 weeks later… did Palin decide to act like a gov. with a state crisis. 6) If not for Nick Turner, Dennis Zaki, Rep. Ramras, and all the concerned bloggers, there could have been dead bodies in Western Alaska similar to the Katrina debacle. These facts speak for themselves and should put Palin’s so-called “ongoing concern” into perspective….Her comments are nothing more than a politician’s mendacious spin on the truth in hopes of countering deserved bad press. Shame on Palin.”
Wonder why ADN doesn’t want the FACTS alongside Palin’s Bullsh*t…..??
Took a harder..oops,wrong word…..uh…..look at the picture of Greta von Scientoligist’s hubby at the Iron Dog , and I’m sorry , call me a perve , but he is SO undressing Sarah with his eyes. Look on Halcro and tell me you do not see it. Just the same way McCain stared. She can play the geezers………..
@wayney
the comments .. i peered through the most recent and the oldest are all pretty palin-slammin!
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she’s EARNED every slam – can u imagine what she’d be like if the spotlight WASN’T shining on her?!?
youtube video of palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z7s0V-UL7U
SHE IS SOOO SICK
OOOOOO this woman makes me so mad!! She does not care about the villagers at all. She is there for photo ops and other ulterior selfish motives. She is trying to get support for her PAC and make people think that she rushed out to the villagers to save the day. Mark my words: She will be smiling for the camera as she gets protrayed as a good caring governor. She is such a opportunist. She cares for no one but her own selfish, greedy , egotistical, self. Sheesh!!!
@ Lee323, RIGHT ON! Call it as you see it, and read it…..BUT, please keep printing it. By the time she tries to run for office again, she will have a hard time disputing all the facts and the scores we have been keeping. Good job!
austintx (18:09:38) :
Saw that pic as well. Very creepy….. He definitely appears to have the hots for GINO. Well, perhaps we should cut him some slack since he is married to Greta van Stoneface. Wonder if Todd approves? Then again since GINO considers marriage a “business” he’d probably sell her to the highest bidder ala “Indecent Proposal.”
GINO is “Visual VIA_RA” for the flaccid GOP’ers. (A “G” goes in the blank but it won’t pass the filters here).
mmboucher Florida (18:19:17)
No video connected to that link on my end.
just type in “sarah palin talks about food drop” on youtube…you will see it.
Sorry, it’s Friday and I have potty mouth tonight.
lilyf (18:38:41) :
Got it. I’m lazy tonight as well!
enjoy…and try not to puke when you read all the slavish pro-sp comments
OY!
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTg3OTk2ZjEwYWU2MjQ1NTY0YTNmYmNjNTkxMGVhYWI=
am I the only one that thinks that the weight of the “goods” includes the PLANE!!!???
She’s just stupid enough to make that mistake.
I just read the interview on ADN.
Bleepity bleepity bleep.
humpf.
Dr. Patois – OY indeed !! ……….putz deluxe on that picture.
Wouldn’t Dare – Now you’ve got me curious. What do you know? From “Repo Man” to “Preacher?” When – where – spill it! Enquiring minds want to know.
Off of the subject, but something that we should all be aware of……
Russ Dallen
Latin American Herald Tribune
February 1, 2009
SAO PAULO â?? General Motors plans to invest $1 billion in Brazil to avoid the kind of problems the U.S. automaker is facing in its home market, said the beleaguered car maker.
According to the president of GM Brazil-Mercosur, Jaime Ardila, the funding will come from the package of financial aid that the manufacturer will receive from the U.S. government and will be used to â??complete the renovation of the line of products up to 2012.â??
â??It wouldnâ??t be logical to withdraw the investment from where weâ??re growing, and our goal is to protect investments in emerging markets,â?? he said in a statement published by the business daily Gazeta Mercantil.
Meanwhile, he cut the companyâ??s revenue forecast for this year by 14% to $9.5 billion from $11 billion, as the economic crisis began to cause rapid slowdowns …
http://www.infowars.com/gm-to-use-bailout-billion-to-invest-in-brazil/
Dr Patois – She’s a real piece of work huh? Who the hell does she think she is? Queen Esther, that’s who. That’s who all her crazy nutjob followers think she is. Sometimes I think I’m living in some kind of bizarro world! I thought this nightmare would be over when McCain/Palin lost. But no – I still have to deal with this crazy sh!!!!t! Please make it stop!
WONDERING…
will Sarah the GINO bill the state for talking to Preacher Man, I mean all the phone calls with him [& others] that it took to whip this media even togethr?
Oh- the ghastly gov out-ghasted herself today with that interview.
Well- Alaskans we will just have to get a new leader, ya know.
This one doesn’t offer ANYTHING to young peoplelooking toward their future.
Nor to elders, nor families …
I couldn’t finish watching her crap on youtube…she looks sooo annoyed about having to do her job! …nothing she says makes any sense.
word salad was a good description somebody gave.
where’s the first dud? during the campaign, we couldn’t stop looking at his mug and now he’s nowhere…is he still shredding evidence?
@Lainey – most likely the Toddle is shredding his marriage certificate and planning the rest of his life. After that shameless self-parody of stump speech talking points and “drill baby drill” as she jets off to tell rural Alaskans to just move to the city and get a job, I wouldn’t just divorce her, I’d move to another state and request annulment of the marriage under mental health provisions.
In fact if I were the first DUD I would get myself into a witness protection programme in Moldovia and get some serious plastic surgery.
@BigPete – oh thanks ever so muchly for that link – I heart Helen and Margaret! I especially like their take on rabid dog, bigfoot Coulter (man those babies could stand (sorry) in as tacky carnival floats).
@Barbette…lol
that would be sweet revenge, wouldn’t it? do you think dud is smart enough to know what he’s gotten himself into?
Michigander
Have any of you read the following interview? I am horrified by Palin’s disrepect. Does she not get how she comes off sounding? She truly disgusts me.
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It takes a lot of gall, or it takes the sort of insular, self-satisfied worldview that results from believing that White western-Europe-derived Evangelical Christians truly are God’s pet project and crowning achievement.
Confession time here–I actually understand Governor Palin (since I’m not an Alaska resident I feel a certain formality is called for) better than I would like to. I grew up on a Native American reservation in the days when Anglos could, with a certain amount of finagling, purchase “Indian” land, which they would then sell to other Anglos. A good part of the “reservation” where my parents bought is actually in the hands of people who have no blood ties to the Native Americans whose land this was supposed to be, but, in the words of Arlo Guthrie, that’s not what I came to talk about.
As a child, I was familiar with the sight of inebriated Native Americans staggering past our driveway on their way from town back to the heart of the Rez. It was illegal in town to sell booze to “Indians,” but it happened all the time. I can remember seeing the old men with their thin, delicate gray braids, wrapped in faded blankets, leaning against sunlit bars, the doors black mouths beside them. As a child, I saw the terms “Indian,” and “drunk Indian” as synonymous–it seems strange and sad now.
When we took our garbage to the town dump (which was deep in the heart of the Rez) we went past the tar-paper and tin can shacks where the Indians lived, with their scrappy, battered ponies out back and their big, beautiful pick ups and Cadillacs out front, hubcap deep in mud.
And we felt so superior, so smug. “Why don’t they fix their houses up?” we asked each other. “Why do they live in such squalor and pour all their Indian Money (and we said that with a certain curl of the lip, because it was Welfare, in our eyes) into their cars?” “Drunk Indians…stupid Indians…dirty Indians…”
Our school took field trips to the Whitman Mission in Washington. Part of the museum’s display was a small animated diorama, in which an Indian tomahawked Narcissa Whitman, over, and over, and over again. Outside, we could see the outlines of the buildings, and even, because the historians were very thorough, and our teachers had been at pains to explain before the field trip, identify the very spots where various members of the ill-fated mission had died.
Those field trips hammered the lesson home–Indians were too lazy, stubborn, and stupid to take advantage of all the benefits the nice white missionaries had brought them along with God and the measles.
The years passed, and the Indians became Native Americans and started taking a more active role in wildlife conservation. They built a casino. And then they built a museum. The Anglo locals don’t like it much–they tend to discount it as a lot of Indian whining. Visitors to the Round-up every year seem to enjoy it, though. I enjoy it, too. It’s a lovely, peaceful place, very quiet, almost church-like, even though it’s just up the road from the casino.
The Discovery Channel had a wonderful program about the Rez. As I watched, I found myself seeing familiar scenes in a new way. I had understood that having an alien way of life imposed upon them had been devastating to Native American culture, but I had never realized how deep it bit–how language, thought, and ways of being in the world were not just lost, but in many cases deliberately savaged to weaken the “Natives,” and make them more compliant.
I saw the tragedy of a culture so lost, so depressed, that it literally drowned itself in the bottom of a bottle. And I finally understood about the power of cultural values. The big, shiny pickups in front of the tin shanties weren’t the mark of foolish waste, but one of the tattered vestiges of a culture where one’s house was a lodge, transportable, replaceable, temporary–but transportation was the key to survival, and therefore to wealth and status.
It’s funny to have an “aha” moment in front of the TV, but I did. I realized that I would never look at the Rez in the same way again–and now, when I drive through it, I see different things. I don’t see a substandard, cut-rate community that is too lazy to follow the stern, uplifting, “pull-yourself-up-by-the-seat-of-your-pants” Calvinist Christianity, but a community built on different values, no better, no worse–just different. And increasingly I am seeing that community is beginning to reclaim itself. There are classes to teach the children the language and culture that was almost lost. There are nurseries now that help to provide the plants for reforesting denuded areas, particularly along spawning streams. Even the local pageant has abandoned its “Roy Rogers/Dale Evans” Indian village in favor of a moving, beautiful discussion of what it means to exist in the midst of a culture that has gone to great lengths to destroy your soul. We may be learning now, but we can’t undo the past. And that past was fueled by an unthinking assumption that we Europeans were OF COURSE ordained by God to bring the benefits of Civilization (read shirts for ladies who went bare-breasted on occasion, pants for men rather than breech-clouts, medicine, and oh yes, a new God who decreed that everyone live Just Like Us) to the Natives.
It was done in the name of love–love of God, love, even of the indigenous peoples. The assumption was that they would of course instantly recognize the clear superiority of our way of doing things, and therefore of us. Rudyard Kipling wrote a poem about it, “The White Man’s Burden.” William Blake did, too. His starts, “I am black, but oh, my soul is white…”
And that unthinking assumption, right there, that having a “white” soul is better than having a “black” soul, lies at the core of such things as Governor Palin’s visit to the village, and her remarks. Her insistence that the young people of the village would of course be better off if they went and, oh, worked in the mines, or in the oil fields (and if the Alaskan Native People’s attitude toward the land is anything like the Native People’s attitude where I live both would be deeply offensive), or maybe they could be teachers in the villages.
Nice. Why could they not be teachers in Anchorage? If we’re going to insist that they fit themselves into our world, why must we assume that they are suitable only for manual labor, or for “teaching in the villages?” Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but as I read her remarks all I could think of was the way that the people among whom I grew up regarded the Native Americans–that bone-deep scorn that placed them somewhere below us and just above the dogs that snarled and fought in the mud under the beautiful pickups–and just a little lower than the beautiful horses that we bought from them when we wanted to improve our stock.
I am not a “bleeding heart.” I am, if anything, extremely pragmatic. I am fully aware that I am not personally responsible for the plight of the Native Americans. Nor am I really culpable in the matter of childhood prejudice. I didn’t do those things–but people I understand did. The culture in which I prosper exists on stolen property.
That bell can’t be unrung, but to deny that it was rung in the first place is to compound the wrong. There was a war here. The Anglos won. the Native Americans lost. And in the losing they lost their very way of being–it would be like us being conquered by, oh, say, the Easter Islanders. How do you forget everything you have ever known, believed, or dreamed? How do you agree that the new god is better than the God you have grown worshipping, believing in, counting on in the darkest times? How do you become a man or woman when all the rituals you have to mark your passing from child to adult are gone?
The Native American culture is finding its way back, and I, for one, am in awe that so much has been saved in the face of such opposition. The Rez is not a recreation of the lost way of life–but the people are finding ways to use traditional skills–and to turn cultural values to profit. There’s even a new business park. “Coyote Business Park,” it’s called, and I laugh every time I go by, and think of Coyote, the trickster, and how very, very appropriate the name is. It’s a warning for those who care to heed it–don’t come to the Coyote Business Park unless you’re prepared to strike a careful, sharp business deal. The people who built it are clever, and you just might find yourself getting a very different deal than the one you imagined.”
I pointed it out to my sister. She smiled politely and commented, “Only you would know about something like that.” She said it like that wasn’t a particularly good thing, but I don’t know. I like Coyote, who spins delicate, elaborate traps from his victims’ own character flaws, and so brings justice with humor, with flair, and with the sort of elegance that we see in neoclassical music–building, building, building to the final, resounding, right chord.
And so, though I have no right to command him, since he is not mine, the next time I pass his business park I will ask, politely, if he won’t lend a hand to the villages up north.
Enough–I’ve gone on far, far too long. Sorry…
@ Bodie P
Thank you. Not too far at all
OT sorta (except it’s the kitchen)
Huff post
“WASHINGTON — The Obama administration, siding with the Bush White House, contended Friday that detainees in Afghanistan have no constitutional rights.”
That’s Afghanistan, not Gitmo.
I don’t care. Did the Geneva Convention have an expiration date?
And, I thought the Bill of Rights was partly to disavow that “imprison ‘em until they rot” mindset.
bummin’ here.
Bodie – Awesome. Thanks for taking the time to write this.
BodieP–Wow, what insights you’ve acquired in your lifetime. I think, if you ask respectfully, that Coyote would be pleased to listen and hear you.
And it’s the Bedtime In Alaska thread, where nothing, truly, is OT…
Worth Repeating >
BardetteNo Gravatar (21:27:46) :
@Lainey – most likely the Toddle is shredding his marriage certificate and planning the rest of his life. After that shameless self-parody of stump speech talking points and “drill baby drill” as she jets off to tell rural Alaskans to just move to the city and get a job, I wouldn’t just divorce her, I’d move to another state and request annulment of the marriage under mental health provisions.
In fact if I were the first DUD I would get myself into a witness protection programme in Moldovia and get some serious plastic surgery.
@BigPete – oh thanks ever so muchly for that link – I heart Helen and Margaret! I especially like their take on rabid dog, bigfoot Coulter (man those babies could stand (sorry) in as tacky carnival floats).
Y’all sound plenty angry. You best be checking out: http://www.mudflats.com
Sarah Palin is like a tacky carnival float. Mudflats is diferent.
Lainey said:
“I couldn’t finish watching her crap on Youtube….”
For a minute, Lainey, I thought you caught her on Youtube sitting on the toilet!
I keep hearing about how Palin can’t declare the villages a disaster to provide aid,so I thought I would look up the issue.Can anyone find anything in this link to Alaskan law that prohibits her from doing so ? Here in the Gulf coast states,Governors declare emergencies as needed by different areas of the states that are hit by hurricanes,tornadoes,etc.Never any talk about how they do or don’t fit the legal requirements,just the Governors judgement.
http://touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/STATUTES/Title26/Chapter23/Section020.htm
Canuck for Choice – I meant Coulter’s feet could stand in as carnival floats.
thanks bodie p. that was great….b
My, my, what condescending white trash talk that SP spews. Unbelievable. She went there to scold and insult them then? These plane loads of food, why must they come with conditions?
Not to be a stick in the mud, but, Ripley in CT brings up a point…the King Air 90′s cargo weight=3,100lbs. The 100′s is 4,708lbs… 2 planes… what’s going on.
Why is it that the first nations people need to do what white people do constantly? If it wasn’t placing them in residential schools, banning them from speaking their language to placing them on reservations….always accompanied by some ‘christian’ trying to convert them. What year is this anyways? Why is the ‘church’ involved with politics. Oh, it’s SP, I see, nuff said.
SP fails to acknowledge that these communities are hard pressed by dwindling herds and salmon, preventing them from exchanging their work for money to purchase fuel — whose price has risen, due to a lack of shipment because of an early freeze up…
SP has a sloped forehead the way she preaches that everyone from these communities ought to work on the north slope. Are they hiring? I doubt it. Where is the housing to accommodate 500 [say] new hires on this north slope? What absolute BS!
Thanks for the white wash, SP. now piss off.
Thanks for that link, BodieP — brill. Re: Your piece on the Rez…well done! My introduction to First Nation’s people may have been the stereotypical one you may see in a major city, but I had the curiosity to attend Pow Wow’s around the Great Lakes. I’ve always wondered why this was never taught in school, back in my day. Was it because it was a Catholic school? Hmm. No matter — the culture and its people are wonderful, the dances, the regalia, the drumming and the food and conversation. I spend many a weekend camping at these events — they’ve all been amazing experiences.
Way to go Lee323, well said.
CCH — LOL!
Thx Bodie for an interesting read!
You’re welcome for the read, folks–it’s funny; until this last election I never thought much or wrote about stuff like this, now I do all the time. More to the point, I never really had a place for sharing such things before. I LOVE this blog, and this group. And the avatar names? I read down the list and it’s like being transported to another world–a world where I suddenly realize that I have something to say that others might think worth hearing. Maybe it’s just age setting in–now I’ve finally seen enough of life to feel qualified to offer commentary. I’m going to be a hellish old lady in the nursing home; I’ll never shut up. They’ll have to give me a room by myself…
bodieP– can I be your hellish roommate if they don’t give you a single?
@BodieP (19:24:40) : AND the problem child (an aunt, also) (19:50:46) :
Yup, I think the two of you might make a great pair of roommates, you two troublemakers, you!
I believe we might–clacking our dentures and slamming our walkers against people’s legs and cursing at random passing children and bathing FAR less often than we should, and buttonholing relatives and making rude remarks about other relatives not present. None of the nurses would want to give us our meds–they’d probably use and elephant gun and dart us from out in the hallway.
Geez, I can’t spell–that should be “AN elephant gun.”
BodieP – Your response touched me and keeps me motivated. I hope you publish your words, you have a gift. I write in my mind, speak seldom, but care so much. Thank – you
Thanks back, Michigander–which part do you live in? I’m reasonably familiar with the UP.