I’m ready to send emails or whatever to anyone that can have something to say about this. But – what if it makes more of a mess for AKM if we do, would it be better to leave it alone and allow her the time she wants “to assess” – ? *Then* go from there.?
on Shannyn’s blog,someone (sounds like a lawyer) posted that this is a violation of Civil Law – I hope no one objects as I am cross posting that comment here for you all to read and digest:
“The man (Doogan) was acting on behalf of the state. He made a determination that someone should exercise her constitutional rights only in the manner he deemed appropriate, not in the manner in which she had the First Amendment right to comment. He also made someone who had taken pains to keep her identity private a public figure.
This is a violation of federal law and of the state common law right to privacy. The fact that he did it on state time and in his capacity is what is called “state action” for a section 1983 civil rights claim. The Mudflats blogger, who was absolutely entitled to comment on matters of public interest and equally entitled to do so anonymously, has a significant lawsuit against this clown. Were I admitted to the Alaska bar, I’d love to handle it. Since I am not, I very much hope that she finds a lawyer with experience in civil rights claims. In addition to awarding damages, they also award attorneys’ fees. That is the only way to stop this sort of abuse of public position.”
Here is the email I sent to doogan…The two things we have in common are that we are both Democrats and both from Alaska. Having said that, I think what you did by exposing the Anonymous Blogger is despicable. How do you know that this person wasn’t hiding from an exspouse or didn’t want their kids ridiculed at school or a whole other host of reasons. I moved from Alaska years ago and politicians like you were one of the reasons.
Here is his response I just received…Well, gee, Larry, if they don’t want their kids ridiculed in school, let’s make everybody anonymous about everything. That way, nobody’s kids will get called names.
Here was my answer to his response…Wow! What a grade school response. You said nothing about the possible
danger you put this person in. You sir have stirred up a hornets nest
that you will live to regret. For starters, make sure you watch
Countdown on MSNBC tonight. This forum is livid with you and I am sure
by now, you have heard from many of the members. By the way
Representative…when are you up for reelection?
By the way…I received his response at Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:12:55 Central Daylight time. Do you suppose Mr Doogan was using his Goverment computer to answer personal email?
I would think Doogan can be brought up on a number of eithics charges not to mention criminal charges. I do hope we have an AK mudflatter that is extending his/her services to AKM right now.
The problem with ethics in Alaska, is that doesn’t everything have to go through nilaP’s lackeys?
The only actual avenue is to file a personal lawsuit for violation of civil rights and I’m betting somewhere there is an attorney in Alaska that is drooling to handle this. DooDoo needs his head handed to him, figuratively speaking.
The only way to really hurt this guy is in his pocketbook. Unless someone has pictures??? (sorry!)
I posted the 1st link earlier today. I just found the 2nd. This , I believe is important , because these companies need to know that we will not tolerate this. I cannot wait for KO !!
Shannyn was great! I especially liked her remark about school dropouts. : ) That will surely upset SP. Thing is, tho, it’s the truth. SP implies that we are making this stuff up, but they’re bringing it on themselves. : )
I posted the first link earlier. Just found the 2nd. I think it’s imperative that these companies know that we will NOT tolerate this type of activity.
1. using his work computer for personal business on the boss’s (that would be the State of Alaska) time is a no-no,
2. his basic premise is just plain erroneous (according to the Constitution) and runs counter to principles he engaged in as a journalist and should theoretically understand on some level,
2. his really juvenile, snarky email responses to people are unprofessional, inappropriate and are going to be read by thousands of people, plus refer back to item #1.
Again, if we need to set up a legal defense fund for AKM, that is what I would consider an honor. I simply cannot imagine a life without the wise words and thoughts of AKM.
Question for anyone…Sooo how come my flag next to my name is the oly one that looks like that…?? Not real computer smart here..Am i doing something wrong??? )
I am so pissed at that ASSHAT “too much holiday cheer” drunk doogan!
I have reported him to CREW! Citizens for responsible Ethics in Washington. http://citizensforethics.org/about/tipline
I urge all of you to email them at this outrage what he has done to AKM!!!!!
He used a state account and peoples names on a state newletter!
He is almost as bad a GINO and just as infantile. Hey Doogan Asshat hear me!
Try to find me, I dare you!!!!
Report him, report GINO this is WAR!!!!!!!!!
Doogan should be removed from his elective office by the fastest means possible under law, i.e., recall…impeach…fire him…give him an empty box and help him pack his stuff…escort him to the door!
Methinks the Fear card has been played; use the trump card!
Yeah I thought she was Great! And she was having fun, lol!
Next AKM turn! Kick GINO ass and Doogan.
I would like to here what Les Gara has to say about this.
I am sincerely so sorry Doodoo stole your anonymity. You and your family have my deepest sympathy. Know that you are not alone. Please be very proud of all the work you have done here. It is a very powerful site and if doodoo thinks this will weaken you or your words he is the one in for the surprise!
If he were a gentleman at all he would have given you more time to prepare for the fall out; which does make it seem as this was a very personal vendetta on his part. He wanted to cause some level of discomfort/pain.
The facts surrounding his actions regarding this matter need to be reviewed and will be scrutinized in a civil proceeding. For this and for the very public newsletter he used, he deserves to be sued for violating your civil right to privacy!
Please know Jeanne there are so many people out here who love and cherish you, and the work that you do. We will work to defend/support you in any way you wish.
I don’t know what I’m talking about but could we do a class action suit? Could all of us file against him for threatening our right to “talk” to each other without him attacking our right to free speech? No one has to come here and read this blog. It’s our safe place and AKM is our discussion leader. If we choose to be anonymous we have that right.
I’m very tired and very mad. That probably doesn’t make sense.
The problem with ethics in Alaska is- there are no ethics in Alaska! Everyone is appointed by someone who knows someone who owes someone… If Ted Stevens was the first link in the scum chain to break, maybe there is light. I emailed KO an RM as well- they have to pick this up and air it in daylight. Stand strong, AMR- you are on your way to your own show…
Leadership down in juneau needs to change, starting with Mike Doodoo!
I remember reading a post of his in the ADN many years ago, he was total making fun of the sport of soccer in Alaska. His comments were infuriating, ignorant, and very negative about the worlds most popular game. It seemed that he was slandering and trashing the beautiful sport of soccer for some kind personal gain. I was furious with him back then and now I’m more furious.
Its sad but true, that ignorant local Alaskans can slander, brown nose, and suck up, and spit out the muck to get into office in Alaska.
Shannyn was great last night on Olbermann. I feel badly for not saying so earlier but was kinda traumatized like so many of us here. Also, thank you to Shannyn for her continued support of AKM and I am sure she will be a great voice for bloggers and the rights of not only Alaskans but plain old decent everyday people everywhere.
SoldotnaSue’s comment above struck a chord w/me. I think I get what you were saying. AKM took the brunt of this certainly much more than the rest of us but I felt/feel violated too. By ‘outing’ AKM Doogan has clearly threatened anyone who chooses anonymity with exposure if he doesn’t like what they say. It feels wrong and just plain creepy. I want to unite against him but don’t know if there is more that we can do besides emailing him and the legislators. I will be seeking advice next week. Out of state or around the world, seems we still have a right to do something about this creep. It’s the internet for Heaven’s sake, who made him Lord of the Planet?
March 27th, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I can’t wait! I knew Keith would run with this!
March 27th, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Exquisite!
March 27th, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Hi everyone
This is great – and I copied/pasted DooDoo’s threat and sent it to the Rachel Maddow Show.
The more involvement the merrier.
Does anyone know if DooDoo used the State’s time and computer to send his threat? It was sent yesterday @2:55pm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
March 27th, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Standing is a good thing! We are with you.
March 27th, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I’m stunned. And I can’t even get to the forum.
I’m ready to send emails or whatever to anyone that can have something to say about this. But – what if it makes more of a mess for AKM if we do, would it be better to leave it alone and allow her the time she wants “to assess” – ? *Then* go from there.?
still stunned.
March 27th, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Basheert
In my letter to doogan, I asked him that very question. It will be interesting to find out!
March 27th, 2009 at 3:01 PM
I am sending out emails to everyone I know asking them for their support and telling them to watch the show tonight!!
March 27th, 2009 at 3:09 PM
on Shannyn’s blog,someone (sounds like a lawyer) posted that this is a violation of Civil Law – I hope no one objects as I am cross posting that comment here for you all to read and digest:
“The man (Doogan) was acting on behalf of the state. He made a determination that someone should exercise her constitutional rights only in the manner he deemed appropriate, not in the manner in which she had the First Amendment right to comment. He also made someone who had taken pains to keep her identity private a public figure.
This is a violation of federal law and of the state common law right to privacy. The fact that he did it on state time and in his capacity is what is called “state action” for a section 1983 civil rights claim. The Mudflats blogger, who was absolutely entitled to comment on matters of public interest and equally entitled to do so anonymously, has a significant lawsuit against this clown. Were I admitted to the Alaska bar, I’d love to handle it. Since I am not, I very much hope that she finds a lawyer with experience in civil rights claims. In addition to awarding damages, they also award attorneys’ fees. That is the only way to stop this sort of abuse of public position.”
March 27th, 2009 at 3:10 PM
I hope Shannyn alerts all to the outing when she is on KO tonight. This intimidation will backfire.
March 27th, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Here is the email I sent to doogan…The two things we have in common are that we are both Democrats and both from Alaska. Having said that, I think what you did by exposing the Anonymous Blogger is despicable. How do you know that this person wasn’t hiding from an exspouse or didn’t want their kids ridiculed at school or a whole other host of reasons. I moved from Alaska years ago and politicians like you were one of the reasons.
Here is his response I just received…Well, gee, Larry, if they don’t want their kids ridiculed in school, let’s make everybody anonymous about everything. That way, nobody’s kids will get called names.
Here was my answer to his response…Wow! What a grade school response. You said nothing about the possible
danger you put this person in. You sir have stirred up a hornets nest
that you will live to regret. For starters, make sure you watch
Countdown on MSNBC tonight. This forum is livid with you and I am sure
by now, you have heard from many of the members. By the way
Representative…when are you up for reelection?
By the way…I received his response at Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:12:55 Central Daylight time. Do you suppose Mr Doogan was using his Goverment computer to answer personal email?
March 27th, 2009 at 3:28 PM
@old salt (15:14:11) :
Most likely…
And, since he just got reelected last Nov., he’s not up again until Nov. 2010 (OR, Aug. 2010 if someone runs against him in the Primary…).
March 27th, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Somebody NEEDS to run against him in a primary and give us ‘flatters a chance to put our money where our heart is. This guy needs to be gone.
March 27th, 2009 at 3:55 PM
But … but .. but
isn’t that “misuse of public office”?
The fact that he is snarkily responding to individuals on State Paid time?
Is he really really “hooked on nilaP??? Is GINO his “companion” on the side??
March 27th, 2009 at 4:26 PM
I would think Doogan can be brought up on a number of eithics charges not to mention criminal charges. I do hope we have an AK mudflatter that is extending his/her services to AKM right now.
March 27th, 2009 at 4:31 PM
The problem with ethics in Alaska, is that doesn’t everything have to go through nilaP’s lackeys?
The only actual avenue is to file a personal lawsuit for violation of civil rights and I’m betting somewhere there is an attorney in Alaska that is drooling to handle this. DooDoo needs his head handed to him, figuratively speaking.
The only way to really hurt this guy is in his pocketbook. Unless someone has pictures??? (sorry!)
March 27th, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Hi Seattlefan…
born and bred in Seattle … good to meetcha!
March 27th, 2009 at 4:55 PM
I posted the 1st link earlier today. I just found the 2nd. This , I believe is important , because these companies need to know that we will not tolerate this. I cannot wait for KO !!
http://thinkprogress.org/stop-oreilly-harassment/
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/ups-dumps-bill-oreilly-sponsorship-th
March 27th, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Shannyn was great! I especially liked her remark about school dropouts. : ) That will surely upset SP. Thing is, tho, it’s the truth. SP implies that we are making this stuff up, but they’re bringing it on themselves. : )
March 27th, 2009 at 5:01 PM
I posted the first link earlier. Just found the 2nd. I think it’s imperative that these companies know that we will NOT tolerate this type of activity.
http://thinkprogress.org/stop-oreilly-harassment/
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/ups-dumps-bill-oreilly-sponsorship-th
March 27th, 2009 at 5:02 PM
sorry for the double post.
March 27th, 2009 at 5:31 PM
So many ethics violations, so little time.
Don’t AK politicians have real jobs to do?
How can Doogan not realize that:
1. using his work computer for personal business on the boss’s (that would be the State of Alaska) time is a no-no,
2. his basic premise is just plain erroneous (according to the Constitution) and runs counter to principles he engaged in as a journalist and should theoretically understand on some level,
2. his really juvenile, snarky email responses to people are unprofessional, inappropriate and are going to be read by thousands of people, plus refer back to item #1.
Sheesh.
March 27th, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Again, if we need to set up a legal defense fund for AKM, that is what I would consider an honor. I simply cannot imagine a life without the wise words and thoughts of AKM.
March 27th, 2009 at 5:40 PM
well heck, I never got a reply……..which email addy is getting replies?
March 27th, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Question for anyone…Sooo how come my flag next to my name is the oly one that looks like that…?? Not real computer smart here..Am i doing something wrong???
)
March 27th, 2009 at 7:02 PM
I am so pissed at that ASSHAT “too much holiday cheer” drunk doogan!
I have reported him to CREW! Citizens for responsible Ethics in Washington.
http://citizensforethics.org/about/tipline
I urge all of you to email them at this outrage what he has done to AKM!!!!!
He used a state account and peoples names on a state newletter!
He is almost as bad a GINO and just as infantile. Hey Doogan Asshat hear me!
Try to find me, I dare you!!!!
Report him, report GINO this is WAR!!!!!!!!!
March 27th, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Shannyn kicked Palin’s arse good on KO tonight….and looked like she was having fun doing it.
March 27th, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Hearts to AKM!!!
Doogan should be removed from his elective office by the fastest means possible under law, i.e., recall…impeach…fire him…give him an empty box and help him pack his stuff…escort him to the door!
Methinks the Fear card has been played; use the trump card!
March 27th, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Yeah I thought she was Great! And she was having fun, lol!
Next AKM turn! Kick GINO ass and Doogan.
I would like to here what Les Gara has to say about this.
March 27th, 2009 at 8:29 PM
To Shannyn—–Woo Hoo….(as Team Scarah would say) You were Awesome on Keith Olbermann! We so appreciate you standing up for all of us!!!!!!!
March 27th, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Dear AKM,
I am sincerely so sorry Doodoo stole your anonymity. You and your family have my deepest sympathy. Know that you are not alone. Please be very proud of all the work you have done here. It is a very powerful site and if doodoo thinks this will weaken you or your words he is the one in for the surprise!
If he were a gentleman at all he would have given you more time to prepare for the fall out; which does make it seem as this was a very personal vendetta on his part. He wanted to cause some level of discomfort/pain.
The facts surrounding his actions regarding this matter need to be reviewed and will be scrutinized in a civil proceeding. For this and for the very public newsletter he used, he deserves to be sued for violating your civil right to privacy!
Please know Jeanne there are so many people out here who love and cherish you, and the work that you do. We will work to defend/support you in any way you wish.
I wish you nothing but the best!
March 27th, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Oooo, I ACTUALLY saw her tonight! She rocked (and I too, also, loved the comment about drop-outs!).
March 27th, 2009 at 10:10 PM
I don’t think Doogan has a clue as to how popular AKM is.
I have met her and didn’t know it, It doesn’t make any difference.
I didn’t know if AKM was a male or female, It doesn’t make any difference.
He is po’d because she called him on email usage.
He IS NOT my rep but I can and will work and donate to whomever runs against him.
What a jerk, I too will donate to a legal offense fund
March 27th, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Shannyn as usual was super.
I was sooo hot about doo-doo that I forgot to give her kudo’s
March 27th, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I don’t know what I’m talking about but could we do a class action suit? Could all of us file against him for threatening our right to “talk” to each other without him attacking our right to free speech? No one has to come here and read this blog. It’s our safe place and AKM is our discussion leader. If we choose to be anonymous we have that right.
I’m very tired and very mad. That probably doesn’t make sense.
March 28th, 2009 at 1:10 AM
The problem with ethics in Alaska is- there are no ethics in Alaska! Everyone is appointed by someone who knows someone who owes someone… If Ted Stevens was the first link in the scum chain to break, maybe there is light. I emailed KO an RM as well- they have to pick this up and air it in daylight. Stand strong, AMR- you are on your way to your own show…
March 28th, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Leadership down in juneau needs to change, starting with Mike Doodoo!
I remember reading a post of his in the ADN many years ago, he was total making fun of the sport of soccer in Alaska. His comments were infuriating, ignorant, and very negative about the worlds most popular game. It seemed that he was slandering and trashing the beautiful sport of soccer for some kind personal gain. I was furious with him back then and now I’m more furious.
Its sad but true, that ignorant local Alaskans can slander, brown nose, and suck up, and spit out the muck to get into office in Alaska.
March 28th, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Shannyn was great last night on Olbermann. I feel badly for not saying so earlier but was kinda traumatized like so many of us here. Also, thank you to Shannyn for her continued support of AKM and I am sure she will be a great voice for bloggers and the rights of not only Alaskans but plain old decent everyday people everywhere.
SoldotnaSue’s comment above struck a chord w/me. I think I get what you were saying. AKM took the brunt of this certainly much more than the rest of us but I felt/feel violated too. By ‘outing’ AKM Doogan has clearly threatened anyone who chooses anonymity with exposure if he doesn’t like what they say. It feels wrong and just plain creepy. I want to unite against him but don’t know if there is more that we can do besides emailing him and the legislators. I will be seeking advice next week. Out of state or around the world, seems we still have a right to do something about this creep. It’s the internet for Heaven’s sake, who made him Lord of the Planet?