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		<title>By: SURVIVOR JUNEAU &#171; SHANNYN MOORE: JUST A GIRL FROM HOMER</title>
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		<dc:creator>SURVIVOR JUNEAU &#171; SHANNYN MOORE: JUST A GIRL FROM HOMER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Survivor Tribal Council and was voted off once it was learned he was a mole from the other tribe.  Joe Nelson is the next player to appear on Survivor Juneau. His fate is to be determined. Everyone plays this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Survivor Tribal Council and was voted off once it was learned he was a mole from the other tribe.  Joe Nelson is the next player to appear on Survivor Juneau. His fate is to be determined. Everyone plays this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Old_Juneau_Boozer</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/07/there-she-goes-again-palin-gets-all-mavericky/#comment-39156</link>
		<dc:creator>Old_Juneau_Boozer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common sense and fairplay does not enter into this debate, is she going to do just what SHE wants...you betcha! 

She&#039;ll make the rules up as she goes along, the soap opera will continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common sense and fairplay does not enter into this debate, is she going to do just what SHE wants&#8230;you betcha! </p>
<p>She&#8217;ll make the rules up as she goes along, the soap opera will continue.</p>
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		<title>By: Terpsichore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terpsichore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you written, e-mailed or called your Gov. and request she select someone off the latest list?

Can anyone there get a campaign going quickly, like, viral quickly, today?

Obviously it will take more than just Mudflats-reading Juneau citizens to make a dent, but perhaps her (or her office) hearing from you will actually do some good.

Document everything you do.  Follow up.  And turn details over to the press for a juicy story if she doesn&#039;t listen to you.

Just call me Pollyanna!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you written, e-mailed or called your Gov. and request she select someone off the latest list?</p>
<p>Can anyone there get a campaign going quickly, like, viral quickly, today?</p>
<p>Obviously it will take more than just Mudflats-reading Juneau citizens to make a dent, but perhaps her (or her office) hearing from you will actually do some good.</p>
<p>Document everything you do.  Follow up.  And turn details over to the press for a juicy story if she doesn&#8217;t listen to you.</p>
<p>Just call me Pollyanna!</p>
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		<title>By: alaskanwoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>alaskanwoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why this turned into the &quot;ask Andree McLeod&quot; thread. Seems odd since she is neither a democrat nor a Juneau resident.... Anyhoo, I&#039;ve lived in Juneau 20+ years &amp; keep myself very well informed on the civic/political issues locally, statewide &amp; nationally. I am undeclared because I vote issues not people. My first reaction to this next pick by Palin was &quot;Who the heck is Joe Nelson? I asked co-workers (all longtime Juneauites) the same question... nobody knew anything about him. Even people who worked at CBJ for many years didn&#039;t know who he is. Granted, he may be a nice, educated guy but seriously, at this point, who can trust Palin&#039;s motives with this one? Not only is she &quot;thumbing her nose&quot; as AKM points out, she is basically wielding her other digit (middle finger) toward Kertulla, the Juneau Dem. party, &amp; mostly the Juneau citizens &amp; double-dog daring the Senate Dems to vote THIS one down. To Palin I say &quot;Grow-up!&quot;, to the Senate I say, stand firm &amp; do the right thing for Juneau. Too much is at stake for us to continue being unrepresented. I know of the others on the list given to the Gov. They all have experience &amp; I can accept any of them as my senator. Pick one of them &amp; let us get on with the business at hand. Stop the games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why this turned into the &#8220;ask Andree McLeod&#8221; thread. Seems odd since she is neither a democrat nor a Juneau resident&#8230;. Anyhoo, I&#8217;ve lived in Juneau 20+ years &amp; keep myself very well informed on the civic/political issues locally, statewide &amp; nationally. I am undeclared because I vote issues not people. My first reaction to this next pick by Palin was &#8220;Who the heck is Joe Nelson? I asked co-workers (all longtime Juneauites) the same question&#8230; nobody knew anything about him. Even people who worked at CBJ for many years didn&#8217;t know who he is. Granted, he may be a nice, educated guy but seriously, at this point, who can trust Palin&#8217;s motives with this one? Not only is she &#8220;thumbing her nose&#8221; as AKM points out, she is basically wielding her other digit (middle finger) toward Kertulla, the Juneau Dem. party, &amp; mostly the Juneau citizens &amp; double-dog daring the Senate Dems to vote THIS one down. To Palin I say &#8220;Grow-up!&#8221;, to the Senate I say, stand firm &amp; do the right thing for Juneau. Too much is at stake for us to continue being unrepresented. I know of the others on the list given to the Gov. They all have experience &amp; I can accept any of them as my senator. Pick one of them &amp; let us get on with the business at hand. Stop the games.</p>
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		<title>By: austintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>austintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>150 mlaiuppa Says: 
April 7th, 2009 at 12:38 PM 
Just like a two year old that needs his hands slapped because he cannot reason enough to keep them away from the stove, Palin needs to get slapped until she finally follows the rules. 

“Joe who? Sorry, not on the list. *slap* Try again.”
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Instead of a *slap* , how about a loud hockey buzzer ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>150 mlaiuppa Says:<br />
April 7th, 2009 at 12:38 PM<br />
Just like a two year old that needs his hands slapped because he cannot reason enough to keep them away from the stove, Palin needs to get slapped until she finally follows the rules. </p>
<p>“Joe who? Sorry, not on the list. *slap* Try again.”<br />
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Instead of a *slap* , how about a loud hockey buzzer ??</p>
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		<title>By: GlobalVillage</title>
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		<dc:creator>GlobalVillage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marnie.  

Thank you for your insight. There&#039;s no second guessing which piece SP considers herself to be - white queen, no doubt.  Let us hope for the sake of everyone in Alaska, that those pesky pawns on the other side of the board, band together and outsmart their opposing queen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marnie.  </p>
<p>Thank you for your insight. There&#8217;s no second guessing which piece SP considers herself to be &#8211; white queen, no doubt.  Let us hope for the sake of everyone in Alaska, that those pesky pawns on the other side of the board, band together and outsmart their opposing queen.</p>
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		<title>By: JuneauMissesAnchorage</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuneauMissesAnchorage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sorry, I felt the need to rant in my last post.)  I just wanted to add: My point is, I don&#039;t want this to turn into a game of rejecting someone just because they were nominated by someone I don&#039;t like.  However, that&#039;s what this has turned into, and I&#039;m willing to accept it.  I feel like the Senate needs to teach Sarah a lesson that she can&#039;t just do what she wants.  I don&#039;t think she&#039;s going to learn, and I&#039;m sure the Senate democrats will get a lot of negative publicity for rejecting Nelson, but [curse word], it&#039;s the principle of the thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sorry, I felt the need to rant in my last post.)  I just wanted to add: My point is, I don&#8217;t want this to turn into a game of rejecting someone just because they were nominated by someone I don&#8217;t like.  However, that&#8217;s what this has turned into, and I&#8217;m willing to accept it.  I feel like the Senate needs to teach Sarah a lesson that she can&#8217;t just do what she wants.  I don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s going to learn, and I&#8217;m sure the Senate democrats will get a lot of negative publicity for rejecting Nelson, but [curse word], it&#8217;s the principle of the thing.</p>
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		<title>By: JuneauMissesAnchorage</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/07/there-she-goes-again-palin-gets-all-mavericky/#comment-38821</link>
		<dc:creator>JuneauMissesAnchorage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Juneau, and I want a senator.  I really do.  However, I don&#039;t want someone that Sarah picked.  I want someone JUNEAU picked.  Obviously, we&#039;re not going to have an election (can we look into having one held?; that might even make me get registered here), so the next best thing is someone the Juneau Democratic Party picked.  

Maybe Joe Nelson is a great guy -- I know nothing about his positions, and neither the ADN or the Empire is telling me what he believes.  But, really, even if he agreed with me on everything, I still would not support him, because he&#039;s not someone the JDP picked.  

What Sarah doesn&#039;t realize (and apparently never will) is that politics is a matter of give and take.  The JDP submitted Kerttula, Sarah no likey, so she asked for other nominations.  I suppose that&#039;s acceptable, but Grussendorf obviously was not.  So, in the spirit of compromise, they submitted other names.  Sarah needs to pick one of those names, and I&#039;m perfectly willing for Juneau to not have a bleeping senator until Sarah picks one of those names.  I don&#039;t frigging care how long that takes.  

Though, really, I&#039;m not surprised by any of this.  As soon as Gruss was nominated, I called up my parents about it.  (I can&#039;t discuss this at work, since I work for the state under a Palin appointee (the horror stories I could tell you about her).)  After being properly appalled (good parents) and determining that the Senate had veto power, they were sure Palin would just continue to nominate whomever she wanted until the end of the session.  And, lo, it is so.  

The Senate bloody well better (wo)man it up and reject Nelson and frakking give Juneau who we want, not who Sarah wants.  Sarah never even comes to Juneau -- she doesn&#039;t know whom we want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Juneau, and I want a senator.  I really do.  However, I don&#8217;t want someone that Sarah picked.  I want someone JUNEAU picked.  Obviously, we&#8217;re not going to have an election (can we look into having one held?; that might even make me get registered here), so the next best thing is someone the Juneau Democratic Party picked.  </p>
<p>Maybe Joe Nelson is a great guy &#8212; I know nothing about his positions, and neither the ADN or the Empire is telling me what he believes.  But, really, even if he agreed with me on everything, I still would not support him, because he&#8217;s not someone the JDP picked.  </p>
<p>What Sarah doesn&#8217;t realize (and apparently never will) is that politics is a matter of give and take.  The JDP submitted Kerttula, Sarah no likey, so she asked for other nominations.  I suppose that&#8217;s acceptable, but Grussendorf obviously was not.  So, in the spirit of compromise, they submitted other names.  Sarah needs to pick one of those names, and I&#8217;m perfectly willing for Juneau to not have a bleeping senator until Sarah picks one of those names.  I don&#8217;t frigging care how long that takes.  </p>
<p>Though, really, I&#8217;m not surprised by any of this.  As soon as Gruss was nominated, I called up my parents about it.  (I can&#8217;t discuss this at work, since I work for the state under a Palin appointee (the horror stories I could tell you about her).)  After being properly appalled (good parents) and determining that the Senate had veto power, they were sure Palin would just continue to nominate whomever she wanted until the end of the session.  And, lo, it is so.  </p>
<p>The Senate bloody well better (wo)man it up and reject Nelson and frakking give Juneau who we want, not who Sarah wants.  Sarah never even comes to Juneau &#8212; she doesn&#8217;t know whom we want.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaska Pi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaska Pi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well- hmmm,  I think we really want to duke it out in the legislature as &quot;legislatuere&quot;
is a bit too toney for Alaska politics...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well- hmmm,  I think we really want to duke it out in the legislature as &#8220;legislatuere&#8221;<br />
is a bit too toney for Alaska politics&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alaska Pi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alaska Pi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@130 Andree McLeod Says: 
April 7th, 2009 at 10:13 AM 
Sauerkraut: I DO expect the juneau delegation (3 members) to do what they are constitutionally mandated and obliged to do to protect the jobs in Juneau. You can count me as one strong supporter of keeping the capital in Juneau. That includes keeping jobs in Juneau.
If I was a Juneau legislator I would keep a sitting governor in line. In this case I would provide incentives and disincentives to Palin and her administration by using the power of the purse. I would work with my colleagues in the legislature to make sure they know how important losing $6 million/month is to the Juneau economy. I wouldn’t let a sitting governor (and Palin at that) get away with what she’s doing and I would protect the jobs that were leaving Juneau…not just whine about it.
If only…..
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Ms Mc Leod-
While I disagree with you about some ( well maybe many :-) ) things and haven&#039;t caught up with everything here today- I am SO glad you are here .

For folks , who are not Alaskans , the divide between rural and urban Alaska , here bush and Anchorage Dems is of great importance. The issues are different and rural Alaska can easily be outvoted. 
Juneau occupies a strange place in the mix on several counts. 

There are a number  of things which are missing in talking about Juneau  and the reference to capitol move and capital creep together just named one of the elephants in the room. 
Having lived with all the  Juneau arguments for so long, I have to disagree with castigating Mr Elton and Ms Kertulla on this. AT THIS POINT, they HAVE reflected the mixed bag o attitudes which their constituents have on this subject. 
So many folks here just keep quiet and hope the subject goes away, others think a road -to-nowhere will solve the problem, others act selfishly and have alienated other Southeast neighbors, and still others, like me and you Ms Mc Leod, want to duke it out -right out in the open, in the legislatuere, in our public place of business. 

All that being said- I have no interest in Mr Nelson occupying the Senate seat  but will live with it if it happens.

 He MAY be a great new add locally to Dem party voice but I would prefer to meet him through the Rep house first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@130 Andree McLeod Says:<br />
April 7th, 2009 at 10:13 AM<br />
Sauerkraut: I DO expect the juneau delegation (3 members) to do what they are constitutionally mandated and obliged to do to protect the jobs in Juneau. You can count me as one strong supporter of keeping the capital in Juneau. That includes keeping jobs in Juneau.<br />
If I was a Juneau legislator I would keep a sitting governor in line. In this case I would provide incentives and disincentives to Palin and her administration by using the power of the purse. I would work with my colleagues in the legislature to make sure they know how important losing $6 million/month is to the Juneau economy. I wouldn’t let a sitting governor (and Palin at that) get away with what she’s doing and I would protect the jobs that were leaving Juneau…not just whine about it.<br />
If only…..<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Ms Mc Leod-<br />
While I disagree with you about some ( well maybe many <img src='http://www.themudflats.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) things and haven&#8217;t caught up with everything here today- I am SO glad you are here .</p>
<p>For folks , who are not Alaskans , the divide between rural and urban Alaska , here bush and Anchorage Dems is of great importance. The issues are different and rural Alaska can easily be outvoted.<br />
Juneau occupies a strange place in the mix on several counts. </p>
<p>There are a number  of things which are missing in talking about Juneau  and the reference to capitol move and capital creep together just named one of the elephants in the room.<br />
Having lived with all the  Juneau arguments for so long, I have to disagree with castigating Mr Elton and Ms Kertulla on this. AT THIS POINT, they HAVE reflected the mixed bag o attitudes which their constituents have on this subject.<br />
So many folks here just keep quiet and hope the subject goes away, others think a road -to-nowhere will solve the problem, others act selfishly and have alienated other Southeast neighbors, and still others, like me and you Ms Mc Leod, want to duke it out -right out in the open, in the legislatuere, in our public place of business. </p>
<p>All that being said- I have no interest in Mr Nelson occupying the Senate seat  but will live with it if it happens.</p>
<p> He MAY be a great new add locally to Dem party voice but I would prefer to meet him through the Rep house first.</p>
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