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	<title>Comments on: NASA Photo Reveals Drift River Terminal in Jeopardy.</title>
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		<title>By: SMR</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-40186</link>
		<dc:creator>SMR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish folks would do a little more research before heaping blame on Chevron for the Drift River Terminal debacle.  Chevron has only been a part owner since it purchased the failing Unocal a few years ago.  Chevron inherited the problem so to speak. As far as environmental stewardship goes, Chevron is one of the best in the world as far a petroleum companies go and Unocal was attrocious.  Besides, when the terminal was built nearly 25 years ago, the State of Alaska would have had to approve the location, etc.  So keep in mind that the State of Alaska is as much to blame for this as any of the oil companies.  So if you are planning on not buying gas from Chevron, you shouldn&#039;t plan any trips to Alaska either as you would be supporting the problem because your tourism tax dollars go to the State.  That and all of the oil from Drift River is refined in Alaska so every time the tour bus or a rental car was fueled up, you would be supporting the problem.  

There are oil company employees risking their lives to help safegaurd the environment, but that seems to be lost on this group and I find that sad. 

I can&#039;t wait for the hydrogen fuel cell car either as it will help reduce or even eliminate our dependence on foriegn oil.  The part that everyone seems to forget is that these vehicles require lubricants to run.  Grease and Gear Oil from you guessed it--Oil.  I have one homework assignment for everyone, sit in front of your computer and list everything you depend on, on a daily basis, that is derived from petroleum (Oil and Gas production).  Gortex, your computer, the rubber soles on the bottom of your Birkenstocks, panty hose, your cell phone, the tires on your car, your ipod, contact lenses, glasses, the ambulance that rushes you to the hospital, the helmet that protects your childs head while riding thier bike, thier car seat, the electricity that heats your house and cooks your food, the trucks that bring your food to market.  Before you bash big oil, take a long look in the mirror and you will see who is really to blame, because we are all big oil.

My wife had nothing to do with this rant as I highjacked her post.  I have never done this since mudflats started but I hate hypocrits who bash companies like Chevron and than suckle off the petroleum tit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish folks would do a little more research before heaping blame on Chevron for the Drift River Terminal debacle.  Chevron has only been a part owner since it purchased the failing Unocal a few years ago.  Chevron inherited the problem so to speak. As far as environmental stewardship goes, Chevron is one of the best in the world as far a petroleum companies go and Unocal was attrocious.  Besides, when the terminal was built nearly 25 years ago, the State of Alaska would have had to approve the location, etc.  So keep in mind that the State of Alaska is as much to blame for this as any of the oil companies.  So if you are planning on not buying gas from Chevron, you shouldn&#8217;t plan any trips to Alaska either as you would be supporting the problem because your tourism tax dollars go to the State.  That and all of the oil from Drift River is refined in Alaska so every time the tour bus or a rental car was fueled up, you would be supporting the problem.  </p>
<p>There are oil company employees risking their lives to help safegaurd the environment, but that seems to be lost on this group and I find that sad. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the hydrogen fuel cell car either as it will help reduce or even eliminate our dependence on foriegn oil.  The part that everyone seems to forget is that these vehicles require lubricants to run.  Grease and Gear Oil from you guessed it&#8211;Oil.  I have one homework assignment for everyone, sit in front of your computer and list everything you depend on, on a daily basis, that is derived from petroleum (Oil and Gas production).  Gortex, your computer, the rubber soles on the bottom of your Birkenstocks, panty hose, your cell phone, the tires on your car, your ipod, contact lenses, glasses, the ambulance that rushes you to the hospital, the helmet that protects your childs head while riding thier bike, thier car seat, the electricity that heats your house and cooks your food, the trucks that bring your food to market.  Before you bash big oil, take a long look in the mirror and you will see who is really to blame, because we are all big oil.</p>
<p>My wife had nothing to do with this rant as I highjacked her post.  I have never done this since mudflats started but I hate hypocrits who bash companies like Chevron and than suckle off the petroleum tit.</p>
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		<title>By: the problem child IS MY NAME!</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39884</link>
		<dc:creator>the problem child IS MY NAME!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Peaceful Granny, some answers, but not all.
Oil is pumped on platforms in Cook Inlet. It goes to the tank farm for storage until tankers can come to siphon it off to take to refineries. Not sure how many underwater/ over land pipelines may be involved, but there is at least one. Apparently the platforms have stopped pumping because the only place they can put the oil is in the tank farm. Some of the oil was tankered out recently. I think the tank farm is only accessible by air or possibly by water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Peaceful Granny, some answers, but not all.<br />
Oil is pumped on platforms in Cook Inlet. It goes to the tank farm for storage until tankers can come to siphon it off to take to refineries. Not sure how many underwater/ over land pipelines may be involved, but there is at least one. Apparently the platforms have stopped pumping because the only place they can put the oil is in the tank farm. Some of the oil was tankered out recently. I think the tank farm is only accessible by air or possibly by water.</p>
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		<title>By: Peaceful Granny</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39711</link>
		<dc:creator>Peaceful Granny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 05:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering the same thing, what can we do to help divert a total disaster on the Drift River and the Inlet? I just don&#039;t know enough to focus my energy on this one, so many questions and not enough information which is always strange in this day and age, where we would like to believe someone knows what is needed to be done and if they just pointed us in the right direction we could get the job done. 

Ok, so here are a few of my questions. 
Where does the crude oil come from in the first place, or how does it get into those tanks. Where is it going now if it isn&#039;t going into the tanks. Why was it held in the tanks there in the first place? Where and how does it leave the tanks, then where does it go. Is all this information available some place on the net? If so, can someone put up links. I&#039;ve been reading and looking at photo&#039;s for days, but still don&#039;t have a very good idea of just what is going on up there. 

If the oil comes into the tanks from pipelines are these pipelines now also in danger? Are there roads into this area, or is everything taken in and out by air? If there are roads are they still passable? Is it already to late to do anything because of the mudflows? Is this just going to be another &quot;act of God - end of days&quot; kind of excuse so those that made the bucks on putting this hazard here in the first place will get away with it if and when the Mt blows? Sigh, so many things to think about. 

I remember when St. Helen woke up and began rumbling, warnings were coming out daily, but no one could even imagine how much was going to be change when she finally blow that side out...you just can&#039;t fight that kind of thing, but you can rethink how you live with the various possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering the same thing, what can we do to help divert a total disaster on the Drift River and the Inlet? I just don&#8217;t know enough to focus my energy on this one, so many questions and not enough information which is always strange in this day and age, where we would like to believe someone knows what is needed to be done and if they just pointed us in the right direction we could get the job done. </p>
<p>Ok, so here are a few of my questions.<br />
Where does the crude oil come from in the first place, or how does it get into those tanks. Where is it going now if it isn&#8217;t going into the tanks. Why was it held in the tanks there in the first place? Where and how does it leave the tanks, then where does it go. Is all this information available some place on the net? If so, can someone put up links. I&#8217;ve been reading and looking at photo&#8217;s for days, but still don&#8217;t have a very good idea of just what is going on up there. </p>
<p>If the oil comes into the tanks from pipelines are these pipelines now also in danger? Are there roads into this area, or is everything taken in and out by air? If there are roads are they still passable? Is it already to late to do anything because of the mudflows? Is this just going to be another &#8220;act of God &#8211; end of days&#8221; kind of excuse so those that made the bucks on putting this hazard here in the first place will get away with it if and when the Mt blows? Sigh, so many things to think about. </p>
<p>I remember when St. Helen woke up and began rumbling, warnings were coming out daily, but no one could even imagine how much was going to be change when she finally blow that side out&#8230;you just can&#8217;t fight that kind of thing, but you can rethink how you live with the various possibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Poynton</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39659</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Poynton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This photo shows a disaster that will happen if the volcano continues to erupt.
What can we do right now to prevent the disaster.
Can the oil terminal be saved?
Will the volcano stop erupting?
How much more water can the terminal withstand?
What can the federal or state government do to save the terminal?
They could airlift steel pilings to build a breakwall to channel the current around the oil terminal. This will protect the terminal from powerful surges
of the river&#039;s current.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This photo shows a disaster that will happen if the volcano continues to erupt.<br />
What can we do right now to prevent the disaster.<br />
Can the oil terminal be saved?<br />
Will the volcano stop erupting?<br />
How much more water can the terminal withstand?<br />
What can the federal or state government do to save the terminal?<br />
They could airlift steel pilings to build a breakwall to channel the current around the oil terminal. This will protect the terminal from powerful surges<br />
of the river&#8217;s current.</p>
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		<title>By: Patience</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39655</link>
		<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://volcanism.wordpress.com/category/volcanoes/redoubt/
More pictures and info here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://volcanism.wordpress.com/category/volcanoes/redoubt/">http://volcanism.wordpress.com/category/volcanoes/redoubt/</a><br />
More pictures and info here.</p>
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		<title>By: Karin in CT</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39645</link>
		<dc:creator>Karin in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 01:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one scary photo.

Thanks AKM and a big high five for your new accolade from The Fix at WaPo!  You rock!

Oh, and by clicking on the link for your latest pat-on-the-back, I found out that CT has a political blog called &quot;My Left Nutmeg.&quot;  Gotta go check it out...  As good as it may be, it will pale compared to the flats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one scary photo.</p>
<p>Thanks AKM and a big high five for your new accolade from The Fix at WaPo!  You rock!</p>
<p>Oh, and by clicking on the link for your latest pat-on-the-back, I found out that CT has a political blog called &#8220;My Left Nutmeg.&#8221;  Gotta go check it out&#8230;  As good as it may be, it will pale compared to the flats!</p>
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		<title>By: Moose Pucky</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39626</link>
		<dc:creator>Moose Pucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent illustration and commentary.  Thanks again--from all your finned, feathered, and furry fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent illustration and commentary.  Thanks again&#8211;from all your finned, feathered, and furry fans.</p>
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		<title>By: justafarmer</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39619</link>
		<dc:creator>justafarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure is anyone has seen this site for Drift River &amp; the volcano:
http://geology.com/news/category/redoubt-volcano.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure is anyone has seen this site for Drift River &amp; the volcano:<br />
<a href="http://geology.com/news/category/redoubt-volcano.shtml">http://geology.com/news/category/redoubt-volcano.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: wired differently</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39613</link>
		<dc:creator>wired differently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on Chevron, but mostly shame on the economic system that most of us participate in that puts shareholder and executive employee profit above every other consideration, especially environmental. Any of us who own stocks, unless you invest very, very specifically in &#039;good&#039; companies, have a stake in this. If we want things to be different, then we have to be the change. Let your congressional representatives know how you feel about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on Chevron, but mostly shame on the economic system that most of us participate in that puts shareholder and executive employee profit above every other consideration, especially environmental. Any of us who own stocks, unless you invest very, very specifically in &#8216;good&#8217; companies, have a stake in this. If we want things to be different, then we have to be the change. Let your congressional representatives know how you feel about this.</p>
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		<title>By: sara winnemucca</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/09/nasa-photo-reveals-drift-river-terminal-in-jeopardy/#comment-39604</link>
		<dc:creator>sara winnemucca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its amazing how the MSM has completely ignored this story.....any ideas as to how to get the word out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its amazing how the MSM has completely ignored this story&#8230;..any ideas as to how to get the word out?</p>
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