Public Testimony on the Appointment of Wayne Anthony Ross – Let the Divisiveness Continue.
Public testimony was heard Wednesday evening by the Senate Judiciary Committee on Governor Palin’s appointment of local attorney Wayne Anthony Ross to the position of Attorney General. The appointment of Mr. Ross has been an all-consuming topic of conversation in Alaska political circles and the blogosphere. Regardless of whether you like or dislike Mr. Ross, nobody in Alaska will dispute that his selection was controversial at best, and divisive at worst. Mr. Ross’ top-down agressive nature has alienated several large and influential groups of Alaskan citizens – the Alaska Native Community, the LGBT community, and now, women.
Mr. Ross’ past outspoken opinions on these groups are coming back to haunt him as next Thursday’s confirmation hearing approaches. Testimony will be taken by the House Judiciary Committee tonight, Friday, April 10 at 5:00pm. The phone number to call is 1-800-295-4546. Listen live on Gavel to Gavel. The full Legislature is scheduled to hold a confirmation vote on Thursday, April 16. Written statements may be entered into the record after oral public testimony is closed.
Here are some of the highlights from the hour of public testimony heard by the Senate Judiciary Committee. In total, there were 17 who opposed the nomination, and 14 in support.
[Some of those who testified did so via telephone, and the audio was indistinct at times. Apologies if I missed a word here and there. I will be updating this post as I have time to transcribe more comments.]
Bradley Flitch representing the Alaska Native Brotherhood and Alaska Native Sisterhood
It is our contention that Mr. Ross has a proven track record of not honoring federal Indian law or recognition of Native Alaskan’s special relationship with the United States Government, nor does he have an understanding of the importance of subsistence to our society. I would like to point to his testimony and his candidacy as a 2002 gubernatorial candidate. In an interview with Fish Alaska, a sport fishing magazine, this is a quote from Wayne Anthony Ross. “As governor, I intend to challenge provisions of ANILCA that mandate federal management of our resources through the pressure of our congressional delegation and through court action as well.” That is a direct quote. That is not him representing any of his parties or any of his clients. That is Mr. Ross representing himself. And then in this morning’s Juneau Empire he clearly states he does not believe in tribal sovereignty. This man just wants to wage war on Alaska Natives, and it’s not moving the state forward. It’s costing us a fortune. Our children are falling through the cracks. We need to stop figuring out ways to divide ourselves, and we need to start working together. And that means the state of Alaska working with tribes, working with the Native Corporations. We do not need a litigious attorney general fighting 150 years of settled federal Indian law. Thank you.
Marcia Buck representing Alaskans Together for Equality, Inc.
I would like to testify very briefly in opposition to the appointment of Wayne Anthony Ross as attorney general. Mr. Ross’ record of negative comments about gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Alaskans would appear to make him biased against the citizens I represent, and therefore make it difficult for me to imagine how he could uphold their constitutional rights fairly, and without discrimination. We need an attorney general who represents all Alaskans equally, including gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Alaskans. I would therefore ask you to oppose Mr. Ross’ nomination. Thank you.
Nelson Angapak from the Alaska Federation of Natives
Let me begin by saying the Alaska Federation of Natives is opposed to the confirmation of Mr. Ross as attorney general. He has been quite vocal in his opposition to our rural preference priority in either state or federal law. Subsistence hunting, fishing and gathering are the very core of Alaska Native life and it has been for thousands of years. If subsistence cannot be protected against overwhelming competition from all other uses, most residents of rural Alaska will not be able to survive and will be gradually forced to abandon their home villages and move into urban areas. In his most recent gubernatorial run Mr. Ross stated that if selected he would hire a band of “junk yard” assistant attorneys general to challenge the law of ANILCA. The challenges of ANILCA have failed because a number of times it has been proven constitutionally correct. Mr. Ross has opposed the very existence of tribal governments. As you know, as you have observed in the senate, millions of dollars have come into the state to serve the Alaska Natives across the state, and has provided employment opportunities, not only to the Native people but to the non-Native community. I think it’s important to keep that in mind. Mr. Ross has stated from time to time that he opposes the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act. When Congress settled the claims of the Alaska Natives, that cleared the right of way for the construction of the oil pipeline and the enactment of ANGSA. It’s done more for the people of Alaska in many ways than people realize, like creating employment opportunities for the people of Alaska. I do believe, Mr. Chairman, the number of comments have been made byMr. Ross, openly or otherwise, have made us realize where he might stand on our own rights. Mr. Chairman, in closing let me reiterate AFN’s position on the confirmation of Mr. Ross as Attorney General for Alaska. The Attorney General’s responsibility includes representation of all citizens of Alaska, including those who are Alaska Native. Mr. Ross holds strident beliefs in opposition to issues that affect the very survival of our Native communities and people, subsistence and tribal sovereignty. This raises a major concern about his ability to represent Alaska Natives on an equal footing as any other citizen in the state of Alaska.
Nelson has been rejected!
Before reading this post I read the ADN piece and the post on C4P. Leave it to the Christinas to defend this nutball.
Yes, Nelson was rejected. Whew.
Ross is next on the list to GO.
Or should I say, right wing luny Christian right -so as not to offend moderate sane Christians (who must be suffering greatly with all these Bush, Cheney, Palin fruitloops).
I’m glad those opposed to him were in the majority, albeit slightly. They sound very eloquent. AKM, you are right..these types of selections are only creating divisiveness. Shame on Palin.
Two down……..Now let’s make it three with the rejection of Wayne Anthony Ross. Palin is not used to being told “No” so it will be very interesting to see how she spins this. Meg….? What say you? And where is Bill McAllister?
BOO-BOO BEAR,
I think McAllister is ill. Seriously, I heard somewhere that he had cancer.
So as long as you’re a white, straight male, you’re OK in Ross’ book? Sounds completely unbiased to me.
Why do we have to deal with this crap day in, day out? Can we survive another two years of Palin’s madness?
Hey, Alaskans. Way to go on Nelson.
Pls. stay strong. Palin is trying to wear you down with her utter nonsense.
But please keep fired up and ready to go!!!
Irishgirl: As much as I disagree with Mr. McAllister’s politics, I seriously hope that is not true. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy…
Congratulations to the Dems on the rejection of Nelson [not that I had anything against him personally, of course, but I'm glad they (pardon the expression) stuck to their guns.]
Is there a list of the 14 who supported WARthog? Just curious….
AKM–Brad’s (of AFB/ANS) last name is actually spelled Fluetsch.
AlaskaGuy: You forgot “land owning, gun toting, repuglican, conservative, truck drivin’ etc etc etc, lol.
Oh gosh, I just googled Bill McAllister and indeed he does have cancer. For that I am sorry. I thought perhaps he had been shoved to the side by Meg Stapleton.
@BOO-BOO BEAR–on what link did you find that info?
Oh nevermind, I found one.
AlaskaGuy: You forgot “land owning, gun toting, repuglican, conservative, truck drivin’ etc etc etc, lol.
—-woman beating, beer swilling, foul mouthed, secession lovin, cross burnin, bigoted, conservative Christian.
This was on Juneau Empire blog spot.
I oppose the appointment of Wayne Ross not because of what he believes, but because of who he is.
I practiced law in Anchorage for 28 years and tried cases against Wayne. He was usually ill-prepared. Moreover, he always villifies the opposing party. He sees the opposing party as a blood enemy. He may be a passionate advocate, but he also needs to demonstrate objectivity. He doesn’t.
Also, he will not be inclined to listen to the career, non-partisan attorneys in the various departments of the AG’s office. Moreover, he is virtually certain to take into account political and ideological views when appointing career attorneys. Pro-choice candidates will have considerable difficulty retaining their jobs or being hired, even if they are being hired to do tax work and will have no responsibility for the ideological isses that are close to his heart.
Finally, he has absolutely no administrative experience; no experience in natural resource, land or tax law and no experience in commercial matters – all central concerns of the AG’s office.
Vincent Vitale
Attorney at Law
(retired)
OT But since it’s Good Friday… did you guys see the new:
The Sarah Palin Center for the Advancement of Creation Science Research.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/subjectarchive/creationscience.html
(and yes, it is a site devoted to satirical humor)
I am SO happy people are getting involved concerning this AG choice Palin made. It takes this type involvement to make a difference.
Thank you all those who are stepping up and using your voices and letters in this issue. I’ve done it before, it’s not always easy. But if ya feel strongly about something you better get involved or shut up.
What next will Palin do to stir the crazy pot?
Thanks Tanya for posting that letter. And thank you Mr. Vincent Vitale!
Attorney at Law (retired)
Does anybody else think, like me, that those supporting WAR are going to get bitten in the ar$e by this choice?. He is soooo going to make a pigs ear of things. At least we can hope he brings GINO down with him, possibly quite soon if he blows off about the rejection of Joe Nelson.
Just wondering..?
Has there been any comment from NOW, National Org. for Women about this appointment. They must know about it… right..?
With their email list I would think they could expose the story nationally and then MSM networks would pick up on their press releases.
@Blooper and Boo-Boo Bear,
I agree, whatever about our political point of view, I think we are all able to rise above the divisiveness and wish Bill McAllister the best.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21086.html
GOP govs get dose of stimulus reality
“But what began with a bang is ending with something closer to a whimper. All three of those governors have been forced to scale back their expectations, to varying degrees, as the push of conservative philosophy gave way to the pull of political reality.”
I am glad they turned down Nelson, Heh! I wrote to them last night about WAR and said they should be the party of “no” to GINO!
I’m wondering why he’s so afraid of CPS and officials dealing with spousal abuse/rape? Could it be where there’s smoke there’s fire? He also said in his comments on Wed. he is against divorce! That means his poor wife couldn’t even divorce him. I shudder to think what would happen to her?
He answers questions defensively and not openly. Falling back on “I’ve only had this job for 8 days”
I have not heard one positive thing for Alaska from his mouth. He’s most definitely a AIP ‘r. I can totally believe he said the Rape comments too. Alaskan’s should demand the bill to go through to elect AG, not appointed by governor. Its time to remove the GINO’s power. NOW!
who does this remind you of? what was it Palin said that was so similar to what Rove just said? I can’t find the quote. It was a backhanded slam, something if I was a ??
But I think Cheney’s statement is an extreamly poor example of how to speak about our new VP. “IF I was being unkind”? give me a break!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/10/rove-calls-biden-a-liar-a_n_185527.html
“I hate to say this, but he’s a serial exaggerator,” Rove told Fox News. “If I was being unkind I would say liar. But it is a habit he ought to drop.”
Interesting letter by Mr. Vitale. Here in the lower 48, an attorney general is not likely to be the most flamboyant divorce lawyer in the state, but rather to be an attorney knowledgeable in the areas an attorney general needs to have expertise in- oil and gas, real estate, taxes, water law, constitutional law, etc. The most critical skill is the ability to manage a law department with dozens or hundreds of lawyers and staff.
WAR is clearly and completely unqualified for the position. He is a clown and a loose cannon who will further embarass AK.
Go for it honestyingov……it’s a very good idea!
According to Mr. Vitale, sounds like Lil’ Wayne is actually more like Lil’ Alberto (Gonzales).
The worst of it is,he is a disaster fore all of the most vulnerable people in the state,be they battered women,minorities,abused children,poor people,gay,anyone but the white straight male would be terrified to of the law under his rule.
Thanks Paula, this needs repeating, Palin is catching on more and more with the religious right wing-nuts;
Update: Landover Baptist is proud to announce that Jesus ordered us to rename our 100-year old facility, The Landover Baptist Center for Creation Studies, to The Sarah Palin Center for the Advancement of Creation Science Research. “Mrs. Palin shares our belief that the world was created by Jesus’ Daddy, Poppa-God, in six days but has been here for 6,000 years. That alone is enough to ensure she has the vote of every single member of this church and no doubt the vote of every True Christian™ American,” said Pastor Deacon Fred. “If you couple all of this with her Evangelical Republican zeal, her savvy new spin on traditional family values, and well kept knees, it is enough to give REAL fundamentalists like me great hope that she will lead America backwards to the wonderful Christian principles upon which our Nation was founded. Praise God!”
Per Mrs. Palin’s advice, the Center will also serve as a summer retreat facility for the National Rifle Association (and home for unwed mothers) in order to secure the Federal grants and taxpayers’ dollars necessary to create a splendid Christian edifice.
@Martha, isn’t that a piece of satirical humor?
Rove told Fox News. “If I was being unkind I would say liar. But it is a habit he ought to drop.”
Rove, you are the bad habit the US decided to drop. Next dtop, the warthog and SPee.
Here is what Ross has to say:
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/04/10/11/4-10-09_Letter_from_AG_Ross.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf
Wow and WAR has sent a letter denying the entire Burton letter. What a piece of work that guy is.
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/04/10/11/4-10-09_Letter_from_AG_Ross.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf
I feel for those in ALaska that have to put up with people like him and Palin. Good luck everyone.
thank you for transcriptions from the W.A.R. hearing.
brad’s last name is spelled “fluetsch”…but it sounds like flitch.
@ Martha – I sincerely hope that you’ve been ‘had’, and that article is snark, if not we’re in worse trouble than I thought.
Re Joe Nelson, you have to see it to believe it folks!- trot over to ‘see4pee’ to see the article they have posted, if they spin any faster they will all go down the drain with one big swoosh!!
29 wired differently Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:25 PM
According to Mr. Vitale, sounds like Lil’ Wayne is actually more like Lil’ Alberto (Gonzales).
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BINGO !!
what the heck is she talking about?
“Palin says she will restart the vetting process. She didn’t rule out the Juneau Democrats preferred candidate, Juneau Rep. Beth Kerttula, and the other three names on the list the local party sent her.
However, she wonders if the other three are really that interested in the job.”
OT OT OT
I just thanked my Democratic Senators for rejecting Palin’s second ridiculous pick for MY representation. I also asked for a special election to be called for if Palin strikes out a third time – because we are out of time due to this ridiculously short session (90 days) and the 28 DAYS that Palin took to make the first rejection. She is now blaming the Dems, and LYING about caring about Juneau’s Senator. Flat out LIES! If she cared, she would do the right thing and pick Kertulla (who is ready to GO!). At the very least, after her little stomping temper tantrum, pick from the 2nd round of names.
Gov Palin – you are a LIAR!
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Someone ‘ in State ‘ needs to call the local office… or 2 people volunteer to call 2 each…. and ask them to comment..?
I am NOT within the State and have no impact.
Note he can’t deny his presence at the more recent meeting he was at so he tries to attack the credibility of the person who witnessed what he said. Reads like something an attorney would say to cover his butt.
So yet another person (who he’s quick to note is a woman) doesn’t accurately recall what Ross said? Now it is two against him? He denies the 1991 meeting altogether perhaps because he may think he can get away with it.
If you read his letter carefully, things start to crumble. He seems to be denying the 1991 meeting. If it can be proven he was there, he’s got a problem.
The video store story is bizarre. I could speculate but I guess I’ll just laugh to myself. Whoever was there, (was it Ross?) what kind of stuff were they renting anyway? Disney movies? Ha Ha Ha.
Vince Vitale makes some of the same points I did in my letter to Hollis French urging him to reject this appointment. WAR is hard-wired to be adversarial, his temperament is not at all suited for being the attorney for all Alaskans. Since his interpretation of the law is so aligned with Sarah’s, he would effectively be HER attorney, not ours, and with all the ethics complaints out there, it is almost certain that he will conflate Alaska’s and Sarah’s interests in his representation in these matters. I sincerely hope that the legislators reject this nomination.
It is saterical, but weird enough that it could be true. Makes fun of the right, but it’s not that far off, now is it?
Is anyone truly surprised that Palin would pick an anti-native AG. After all, just look at her behavior during the YK delta crisis. She has shown herself to be anti-native and picked an AG candidate that is the same. She has indicate that she thinks natives should abandon their villages and traditional lifestyle for urban life and Ross agrees.
I didn’t think it was possible for me to detest a politician more than I detested Dubya. But I absolutely loathe Palin.
I hope 60 Legislators are listening to WAR and thinking about the lack of leadership and statesmanship that WAR and the Governor represent to the people of Alaska – LOOKS LIKE DOUBLE THE TROUBLE TO THIS ALASKAN.
Once Palin got elected, “Leadership and Statesmanship Left Alaska”!
I don’t expect anything different from her than her ALWAYS poking and finger pointing juvenile style of behavior.
OT: GINO trying to kill wolves again! Last weekend, came back empty handed!
http://www.newsweek.com/id/193370
Thats another thing WARGINO want to do is kill wolves!
I hope there is some solid proof out there. I also read the Ross letter and have to say…hmmmm??? When a person claims to have been misunderstood more than once in seperate situations you just have to wonder, “What’s up with this???” That whole video store story is a little nutty too.
I sure hope solid evidence surfaces, this guy is going to continue to defend himself based on hear-say and people’s clouded memories.
Good luck AK folk! I’m backing ya all the way from OH!
akdennis Says:
I didn’t think it was possible for me to detest a politician more than I detested Dubya. But I absolutely loathe Palin.
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They are not politicians….they are imbeciles.
AKM et al:
You might try a strategic renaming of this gasbag from WAR to MAW. Who was MAW you may ask? Mad Anthony Wayne, Native-American killer. To the Googlemobile.
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/03/26/15/Ross-res.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf
Never served except in a militia? Drives a Hummer?
ooops
“I just thanked my Democratic Senators”
That SHOULD read, I just thanked THE AK Democratic Senators – I don’t have a “my senator” yet!
I am very happy that Nelson was rejected and given that Juneau is not going to have any representation for the rest of the session I really think that we should just call for a special election. Palin hates Juneau and is trying to find a candidate that is in line with her beliefs and not the people of Juneau.
Also, I am glad that this got posted. I just finished writing my testimony against WAR and will be heading downtown in a few hours to deliver it in person. I really appreciate all the Alaskan bloggers, AKM, Shannyn, Progressive Alaska, Writing Raven & MamaDance for all of the wonderful information. It was helpful to look over some of the arguments as I prepared my testimony.
Mr. Ross’ letter is so unbelievably inappropriate. He invokes his religious beliefs? He feels it is ok to publicly discuss his virginity? I cannot believe his lack of professionalism–not to mention that he can’t write worth a damn. And the letter from a lawyer who had professional dealings with him is very telling. As a lawyer, much of my referral business is from lawyers who were on opposite sides of a case. I beat them–sometimes badly–but it was fair and square.
Have you guys seen this?
From ADN:
In response to a question from a television reporter, Palin also talked about some of the ongoing drama surrounding her family. Levi Johnston said during an interview on CBS’s “Early Show” that he moved into the governor’s house a few weeks before Bristol Palin gave birth to their child.
“I know the truth about my family. I know details about whether Levi Johnston was allowed to live with my teenage daughter or not. By the way, it would be over my dead body that a kid would live with my teenage daughter,” Palin said.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/140425
I thanked a Senator today at lunch. 8 more to go (or prob. actually a few fewer, as I’m sure there was at least one or two yes votes).
these type “arrangements” started and made during 8 years of Bush is EXACTLY why Palin and WAR don’t want government involvement. Gov. okay under Bush Gov not okay under Obama, lol. Can’t have it both ways Palin.
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http://www.americanrivers.org/assets/pdfs/mer-2009/beaver-creek.pdf
America’s Most Endangered Rivers of 2009
#8 Beaver Creek, Alaska
Threat: Oil and gas development
“Beaver Creek’s wild character may soon be traded for oil and gas
development by the very agency mandated to protect it—the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS). Although the creek is enveloped within three national conservation areas, a secretly-negotiated deal to transfer protected lands into corporate hands initiated under the Bush Administration could result in the proliferation of hundreds of miles of roads, pipelines, airstrips, and drilling wells that would cause irreparable harm to the creek and threaten the Yukon River downstream. The USFWS, under new leadership, must halt this
misguided project and protect the people and businesses that depend on a healthy Beaver Creek.”
“The Yukon Flats land swap was hatched in secret negotiations between USFWS and Doyon Ltd. The Bush Administration’s Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne directed an expedited EIS process and USFWS released the draft EIS in January 2008 to overwhelming opposition from the Native Village of Fort Yukon and other tribes. The land appraisals and final EIS are underway with release expected in August 2009. If the USFWS Alaska Regional Director decides to proceed, a 30-day review of the final exchange agreement will be solicited from Congress following approval of the USFWS National Director. Oil and gas exploration and drilling could commence within a year or two.”
I just read a c4p post. Wow. The kool-aid those folks imbibed have clearly destroyed their intelligence to the level of crazy village idiots.
How can they write such inflammatory garbage? They have the gall to troll Mudflats/Diva/Gryphen/Shannyn, et al, and then falsely report twisted facts to their readers? Whoa. Have these people always been around?
Did you guys read the Editor’s Blog posting Pat Dougherty placed in the comments sections at ADN? He’s telling c4p folks to behave or else! Good for him.
I loved Vincent Vitale’s letter. We should thank Sarah for outing all this political dirty laundry. Let’s see who hires WAR to represent them after all this publicity!
crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:17 PM
WAR – - ” Falling back on “I’ve only had this job for 8 days” !!!
I don’t thin he actually has the job until he’s approved by the Legislature … which I hope never happens …. and I pray
Regarding Mrs. P’s comments on Levi never having lived in her house…I’m sure that when he grows up, Tripp will really appreciate reading about how you called his father “a kid ” who would never be allowed to live with her daughter. Nice going, governor.
going back to what Ktuu ap release……what the heck is she talking about?
Why she can possibly say the others on the list aren’t interested is weird. Whatever Governor, then perhaps you should seat Kerttula!!
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“Palin says she will restart the vetting process. She didn’t rule out the Juneau Democrats preferred candidate, Juneau Rep. Beth Kerttula, and the other three names on the list the local party sent her.
However, she wonders if the other three are really that interested in the job.”
oh this is just choice, lol…….
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/140425
“Gov. Sarah Palin told news media here this morning she’s willing to accept the federal economic stimulus money — if legislators agree to use some of it to replace state spending.”
I’m pleased to see that voices of reason are being raised in opposition to Governor Palin’s choice of Attorney General!
On a similar note – I’m also pleased to see that Palin’s 2nd choice for Senator Kim Elton’s seat, Joe Nelson, was rejected by the Senate Democrats.
Think maybe Sarah will begin to get the message?
Nah.
ATF – unfortunately the backwards A holes who think like he does.
“Let’s see who hires WAR to represent them after all this publicity!”
Moose Pucky is proud of its Alaska Democratic Senators. Moose Pucky supports Beth Kerttula for Juneau’s seat. Moose Pucky has no confidence in W.A.R. as Alaska’s chief legal officer. Moose Pucky thinks accepting all stimulus money would be excellent to keep the money circulation through Alaskan communities.
Moose Pucky sees Alaska’s governor as being dangerously partisan and ineffectual–not to mention how she has such disrespect for us critters, our habitat, and clean water. Wolves, honestly, have better family values–also.
In response to a question from a television reporter, Palin also talked about some of the ongoing drama surrounding her family. Levi Johnston said during an interview on CBS’s “Early Show” that he moved into the governor’s house a few weeks before Bristol Palin gave birth to their child.
“I know the truth about my family. I know details about whether Levi Johnston was allowed to live with my teenage daughter or not.
By the way, it would be over my dead body that a kid would live with my teenage daughter,” Palin said.
Complete double speak. What details????
re: WAR letter in response to Burton letter
How can anyone consider the circumstances of their learning love-making to be an appropriate topic for a letter to a legislative body (and CC: a governor)? And what would prompt such a person to include their spouse’s learning in the letter?
If this was an employee of mine, I would expect them to attend counselling/ training and continue in my employ only under very strict supervision.
GEEEEEEESH!!!!
antiAnti,
I ‘ve missed the link for that! Do you have it.
ATF,
At htis stage she is a proven liar./
I am sorry to hear about Bill McAllister’s illness and wish him well.
Celtic Diva has linked the entire letter from WAR regarding Burton letter
I do oppose Ross, however I am not happy with the Native Claims Settlement Act either, because I don’t think its fair.
I have lived in Alaska my whole life and adjusting to a changing world has not been easy for me, but I do it because I have to. I think it is time for everyone to move into the 21st century, even the Native community.
@Say No to Palin in Politics:
I’ve floated Beaver Creek from Nome Creek to Victoria Creek; I’ve walked the high country above Beaver Creek’s headwaters in places like Quartz Creek, Mt. Prindle, and Lime Peak, and I’ve returned numerous times during winter to places like Windy Gap and Wolf Run. My favorite place in Interior Alaska is lower Fossil Creek.
Beaver Creek is a National Wild and Scenic River. I can say this is one of Interior Alaska’s precious and defining wilderness areas. I truly resent and am disgusted by stealthy, greedy “back room” deals (in this case between Bush administration and Doyon) that may have deliberately stifled public disclosure and input. I’m calling Begich on this one. I’m so sick of this crap and with our parasitic, manipulative, lobbyist-puppet-stringed government.
aoeu—thanks for the link to Ross’ resume.
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/03/26/15/Ross-res.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf
Really, this is the strangest resume I have ever seen. Page one gives his “credentials” but without any dates appended to these accomplishments, e.g.. “former teacher” just doesn’t cut it on a professional resume; when did he teach. When did he get his awards for patriotism from the DAR and VFW?
Then there follows10 pages of publications which are arranged alphabetically. Never in my decades of professional life have I ever seen this method of presentation. Then of course there are the publications themselves, from “A tribute to Barbara on Mothers Day” to “Where is the respect for law enforcement” (1989) Quite a list; there must be over 200 publications. Busy man if it is all true.
“That’s disappointing lawmakers have chosen not only to not discuss and vote in public but disappointed that a very experienced, educated, young dynamic Native leader was not accepted by the Senate Democrats,” she said.
More disjointed babble. Another verb without a subject. Befitting…
ADN also published his ratings when he was trying to become an appellate judge–they’re mediocre at best. This guy is a clown.
WAR’s ‘rebuttal’ letter is just bizarre. As I read on and on, it sounded like a guy who continually has to be screaming at someone to get his point across. Four pages of drivel. Personal references that have no place in this kind of communication. Talking about his kids – irrelevant to subject at hand. Reference to religion – inappropriate.
And the guy can’t even spell! My favorite was “conformation”:
Hey, Wayne, confOrmation is something they do at dog shows. ConfIrmation is something the AK legislature hopefully won’t be doing for you. But then again, maybe you really were referring to your dog and pony show ……..
Our AG should be the kind of person who sets the standard for law in our state. I wouldn’t think other attorneys would want to stoop that low.
This letter is just the kind of thing I’d expect to see day in, day out from him as AG. It’d be like the guv on steroids. How could the legislators face that every day?
Oh, and his signature! Whoa, sure would like to get a handwriting analysis on that!
So good grief, WAR writes a 4 page letter to the leg, half of it having nothing to do with what he was addressing. He’s trying to play court lawyer to the jury in his defense, lol.
So I’d really like him to address his rash remarks about how our government is the enemy. I”ll expect more lawyer ease about how he was misquoted or misunderstood, AGH GAG.
I’d also like him to explain his rash remarks about social service funding and foster care.
I”d also like to get his views on WHY Alaska has such high crime rates, rape, child abuse, drug abuse and EXACTLY WHAT and EXACTLY HOW he would change that.
This should be interesting. Leah says on her website that she intends to testify tonight to what she heard. WAR letter was a little to odd, video store? Domestic violence is not just about the woman? What’s next…it was terminator that took over his body spoke in Denny’s.
Lie…lie..deny…deny…? As a lawyer, one would think he’d have a better memory. “I don’t know this group but i went off on it’s leader…”?
The Alaska State Legislature should send GINO a letter requesting A LIST WITH THREE NAMES FOR POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS TO THE AG POSITION. HAHAHA
Amen Deist…….hey while ya got Begich on the phone ask him to comment on Palins AK attorney general pick, the Nelson selection/rejection and the possibility of a special election to seat Kertulla.
You might also call Murkowski too.
Then share the goodies.
Sorry to post so much, but I’m reeling. His resume? Those “published articles” sound largely like letters to editors, with very few exceptions. This guy apparently views his thoughts as so incredibly profound that he keeps track of everything he’s opined upon??? Oh, he is one weird guy.
Could I trouble someone for a link to Leah’s website?
Lorraine, who was there first? and who has to pay 200% more than Anchorage residents for store supplies?
As a Christian–someone who actually reads the Bible and uses Jesus’ example as a touchstone for my own behavior–I’m tired of seeing fundamantalists referred to as Christians. How about christian, “Christian,” neo-con, or just fundamentalist? I don’t expect real Christians to be perfect, or even remember to be trying to emulate Jesus’ example all the time, but I do expect a pretty good effort, and not putting down others of any religion or no religion who are really trying to do the right thing.
On another note. How long since Nunam Iqua received their first care package? I’d like to know how long it’s been that the State hasn’t been helping. I think GINO isn’t doing anything in part so she can save state money–let the private sector keep sending those flat rate boxes!
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Moose Pucky Says:……………and I totally agree with Moose Pucky
Someone should dig up a bill that WAR and another legislator floated in 1998.
I am told it that would have done the following:
1) Require divorced women to track down their deadbeat husbands on their own time and money within 30 days of said deadbeat moving out of Alaska or risk forfeiture of spousal and child support.
2) Allow men to report their wives as “runaways” after 24 hours absence from the home and forcibly return them and their children to said home.
3) Make it legal for men to carry handguns when visiting shelters for Abused Women in search of their “runaway” wives/children.
I am told the bill was tossed out quickly, but a copy must exist somewhere…can anyone find it?
Thanks for including Marsha Buck’s testimony representing Alaskans Together for Equality! We need to work together to stop this appointment.
Alaskans Together for Equality home page:
http://www.alaskanstogether.com/
Just watched Palin’s press conference on KTUU regarding the rejection of Joe Nelson. she snips at the end about a “closed door meeting.” Boy, when I think of all the closed door meetings she had with her inner circle of high school buddies, including Todd Palin, who is SHE to throw stones??! Hypocrite!
ntiAnti Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Celtic Diva has linked the entire letter from WAR regarding Burton letter.
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Thanks.
I posted the link to NOW back on post #41.
It had their 4 branches in Alaska. Was anyone able to call them and see if they are participating with opinions (or a Press release )toward the AG confirmation..?
I assume they have a Director or President or some position like that at each chapter. Does anyone here know the names of those people personally.. or at least know who they are from the community. Maybe worked with these people.
@Deist–Awesome, dude.
@BigSlick
Surely it could be found in the archives. But, more information would be needed..like the date it was presented, to which committee it was submitted and by whom.
I wonder if Andrew Halcro would remember?
You, also, Say No to Palin in Politics. Appreciate those posts.
Palin wonders “if the other three are interested in the Senate seat” because they didn’t turncoat on Juneau’s Democrats and go lap-dogging to Palin.
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BigSlick Says: ………….wow now wouldn’t that be something to find, I wonder also could Halcro put his hands on it? Anybody want to ask him?
Cool – I just “talked” to someone who is going to testify to the House Committee this eve. I hope there are lots of folks – I’m very proud of those who do this!
I have seen WAR’s letter.
Why doesn’t his wife sign her own statements?
I feel warm and safe and dry here at the Mudflats. Those out of state and out of control posters at ADN are scary.
Who in their right mind would defend such an underwhelming candidate for AG?
Speaking of juvenile and twisted candidates..reading WAR’s rebuttal letter was like reading an essay written by a 7th grader the night before it was due.
Why is Sarah suddenly so “available” today? Does her availability extend to members of the legislature and all other Alaskans or just the press?
Her hokey comment about the dems not confirming a Native was blindingly partisan and divisive. Personally, I thought her comment was patronizing and pandering. If I saw it that way, how do you think the Native groups saw it?
I will try to get more info, but my source is someone living in Alaska who is very remote and without access to computers.
Believe me, I have been scouring the internet looking for something to lead me to that gem.
In meantime, does anyone with access to the Alaska.gov archives know how to navigate them well and if so, do they go back to 1997-98??
Read the letter. WAR is a kook.
@ akdennis
I didn’t think it was possible for me to detest a politician more than I detested Dubya. But I absolutely loathe Palin.
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I second that notion….for GINO represents hypocrisy at its worst!
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BigSlick Says: …………I am looking too, I found a site I am checking out, will let you know if I find anything..
GINO is on the Eddie Burke show now!
@ BigSlick…this is the site I am checking, I looked at 98 will do 97 now, but you might want to check too I could miss it.
Here’s a mug shot (puke)
http://rossandminer.com/ross.html
lol, I forgot to include the link, sorry…http://www.akrepublicans.org/pastlegs/index.shtml
From the KTUU interview:
*Palin gave the senators a sharp elbow Thursday, in a statement calling on them not to “drag their heels” because filling the seat is important to Southeast Alaskans.
That irked Democrats, who say if the governor cared that much, she wouldn’t have taken 28 days to nominate her first choice, Tim Grussendorf, whom the Senate Democrats rejected.
Democrats and many Republicans are also unhappy about the governor’s insistence that the confirmation vote take place in public.
Lawmakers have traditionally filled vacant seats behind closed doors. There’s a good reason for that, according to Sen. Bill Wielechowski.
“It’s the smallest legislative body in the united states with 20 members,” said Sen. Wielechowski, D-Anchorage. “There are a lot of people say that one of the most important aspects of this job is personal relationships that you have with other legislators.”
But Palin seeks to break tradition.
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I’d like to remind Governor Cupcake of her own words..
“Are Alaskans outraged, or at least tired of this yet – another frivolous….. asinine political grandstanding?”
Of course, I did some creative editing, but her words, nonetheless!
Yes, I also combed through the archives at alaska.gov from 94 thru 2000, can’t find it.
WAR helped write it but it was sponsored by a leg who’s name I do not know….
To Tewise and Big Slick…look for the representative or senator who represented Seat 31 (the Hillside).
Or try your search engine to include Mitch Abood. Not sure Mitch was still serving at that time, but they were friends.
@BigSlick Says: April 10th, 2009 at 3:15 PM
– maybe try Don Tanner and beginning of Wally Hickel’s 1991-95 administration
I hope the Native community, organizations like the Ak. Network on Domestic Violence & Sexual Assault, and the GLBT community organize like never before to let the Gov. know that Ross does not represent what Ak needs or wants from an AG. Palin is once again putting her own political ambitions ahead of the best interests of the Ak. people. Speak up Ak. you have the right to be heard.
JerryH Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 1:29 PM
crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 12:17 PM
WAR – - ” Falling back on “I’ve only had this job for 8 days” !!!
I don’t thin he actually has the job until he’s approved by the Legislature … which I hope never happens …. and I pray
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Unfortunately…I emailed Les G. about this and he had this to say:
“He gets an interim appointment under the constitution”
So WARGINO can say he’s been “on the job” for 8-9days now…
Hopefully That’s ALL it will be, a very short lived job! Cripes the economy sucks ya know? Only people who are absolutely qualified may be picked!
He is differently not qualified.
definitely not qualified- sorry
If Chuck Kopper was paid $10,000 for two weeks worth of work, how much will WAR get for his severence pay?
Boy, she sure can pick em, can’t she?
Perhaps she’s a closet misogynist herself.
not OT, exactly – here’s a link to a pdf file that tells where to find what online concerning Alaska Legislature doings
http://w3.legis.state.ak.us/docs/pdf/leghistory/Legh.pdf
It’s really impressive! Now to see how much it’ll help this time.
What a ridiculous letter this is:
http://rossandminer.com/articles/92-03-08.htm
He calls Governor Hickel—Governor Fickel.
He makes a lot of derogatory comments towards Republicans and Natives.
This was PUBLISHED in the Anchorage Times.
Holy Cow.
BigSlick Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Here’s a mug shot (puke)
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WOW….WAR looks like an uncloaked Imperial Wizard. Evil personified…and one can never underestimate the “creepiness” factor.
Yeeeek!
CA dreamin of AK Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 2:24 PM
As a Christian–someone who actually reads the Bible and uses Jesus’ example as a touchstone for my own behavior–I’m tired of seeing fundamantalists referred to as Christians. How about christian, “Christian,” neo-con, or just fundamentalist?
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I make a point of calling them Christian fundamendalists, not even fundamentalist Christians. And I do that to distinguish them from real Christians, who are not professional haters.
The problem with these rabid fundamentalists getting away with calling themselves simply Christians is that they have a long history of co-opting misleading descriptions of themselves and their interests, eg Moral Majority – their first exercise in hypocrisy. Another thing they do when they have a hate on for something, is claim a PRO-something good stance. So, while they are happy to bomb clinics, they claim (and the public accepts) they’re PRO life, not ANTI-abortion. Same as the gay-hating thing: PRO-marriage, not ANTI-gay.
And the media and general public accept and perpetuate these self-coined descriptors!
It’s time for progressive people to start buying organizational names and domain names and PAC names! I’ve thought of a few beauties but I wouldn’t post them here because Sarah Palin’s paid operatives are keeping Mudflats under surveillance.
I noticed that WAR sent his letter to the State Lesislature from the office of the AG. He and Palin are both acting like he is already the AG.
I keep reading and reading and keep shaking my head….
BigSlick, I will continue to look but I have to log off we are under tornado warnings
I need more details from my pal in the bush….sorry.
The State Archives website is: http://www.archives.state.ak.us/ It’s not actually possible to look at their documents on-line. You have to go there in person and ask to see records. However, it appears that they have a Research Request option (check the middle column on that page above), so someone may be able to look for the document for you. The State Archive is the legal repository for all State records, so it ought to be there.
I came across this when I googled Ross. A stroy written by him on the OGCA site.
http://www.ogca.com/WAR_Maybe.htm
One part in particular stands out…”Nowadays there are many people who say kids shouldn’t have toy guns at all; they claim that toy guns foster aggressive tendencies in kids. I never thought that aggressive tendencies were bad. I’d rather have aggressive kids than passive kids.”
…hmmmmm????…aggressive tendencies are good? Does that mean they are also good while holding a gun???? I have a lot of questions about this.
Tewise, be safe!
BTW, New Thread Alert
@BigSlick: This might have something:
http://www.legis.state.ak.us/folhome.htm
97-98 is the20th Legislative session, right?
the daily Journals are also in there.
Oh yeah, I’d forgotten that the LAA has all that stuff on-line too.
Here’s a book by the woman named Leah, who overheard WARGINO’s comments:
http://theopalinism.com/
Watching gavel to gavel and GINO is on, she looks like Hell warmed over. I think she has a cold.
Yikes.
She’s pissed though…
WARthog’s 4 page letter is HILARIOUS (and his video store story has a definite stink to it!)
From ’92 – ’94, I managed a very small video store here in my city. Customers were issued a membership card that only showed a membership#, no other information. The only way to access a customer’s account would be to enter the membership# into the computer. If a customer didn’t have his membership card and wanted to rent a video, we could access his account only if the customer could prove his identity with a driver’s license or state ID.
Yet Ross said that he had never even been in that store, so how did the store manager know who to call?
But ok: Say the clerk just described the boor, and it somehow sounded enough like WARthog that the manager suspected it was Ross. WARthog wants us to believe that the manager looked up Ross’ phone number in the phone book, called up WAR, and started complaining about Wayne’s boorish treatment of his employee?! Like somehow THAT makes sense?!
What kind of store manager would have risked offending a prominent local citizen that way, based on just a suspicion?
Just a quick note to correct the spelling of my friend, Brad’s, name: Although it IS pronounced “Flitch”, it is spelled “Fluetsch”. Thanks for your great coverage of the issues facing our beloved state here – been lurking for a few weeks and enjoying it very much!
Alaska’s statutes give Ross full power as AG between the time he’s appointed by the gov and his confirmation vote by the legislature. Sorry, that’s the law.
Martha…landover baptist church is satire. They seriously ridicule religious fundamentalists…and got the idea from the rabid Westboro Baptist Church. I remember the first time I looked at landovers site…I was horrified, and then after a while I realized they are being sarcastic. They have no love for sarah palin, nor the neo con religious folk.
I’m listening to the nauseating support for Mr. Ross at the House Judiciary hearing with little opposition– perhaps we shouldn’t have Mudflats because we’re all B.S.ing here about Ross instead of at the hearings where it matters– Mudflats is no substitution for government. Where it matters, we’re getting steamrolled. Mudflats doesn’t matter to the guys who are now confirming Ross. I’m so depressed.
Stunning read: From I Eat Gravel
A Taste Of WAR
In a 1993 article that Wayne Anthony Ross wrote for the Alaska Bar Rag, he criticized LAD (Lawyers Against Discrimination) who were supporting an Anchorage ordinance seeking to bar discrimination based on sexual preference.
“This bill seems to give extra rights to those whose lifestyle was a crime only a few years ago, and whose beliefs are certainly immoral,” Ross wrote. “You support degenerates. … You collectively contribute $5000 to the cause of sexual perversion.”
When asked if he had changed his stance in the past 15 years he replied:
“I wrote it, and I haven’t changed my mind.”
“I think there is something unnatural about that [act],” Ross adds, “That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t invite somebody like that to dinner. But I might try to convert ‘em.
And this is only a small taste of some of WAR’s wildly divisive statements. Then there’s the fact that in a poll in 2007 containing 13 candidates, and in 2008 with 14 candidates, for a seat for the Alaska Supreme Court, Ross scored the lowest overall and in each of the 6 categories (Professional Competence, Integrity, Fairness, Judicial Temperament, Suitability of Experience, Overall).
Help! Who is chairing the hearing tonight (I’m listening on KTOO)? He’s a jerk. He’s clearly for Ross’ confirmation and has already stated he’s pretty sure that will happen. He’s been condescending to callers who are in opposition, has expounded on his views when he should be simply listening unless he’s asking callers clarifying questions, has stopped just short of calling some callers liars, and what’s with his response to Ms. Burton and indication that he thinks that even if Ross said what she says he did (though he doesn’t sound like he believes her) that surely Ross has grown and changed by now.
He sure has lost my respect.
D.
Was trying to find past info on WAR and came across Fish Alaska mag. Q&A w/2002 gov. candidate Ross. Copied this little blurb – made me laugh given the current situation:
Other outside interests find they have greater influence in Alaska by playing to some of the politicians we have elected here who have desires for national office. We need to elect representatives who strongly believe that Alaska comes first, ahead of their own political future and agendas.
Thanks michigander for sharing that classically ironic tidbit.
I read over WAR’s resume and 4 page rebuttal letter to Burton’s letter…..both are odd and very unprofessional in content and structure. Totally inappropriate to bring up his and his wife’s love-making history…..early signs of dementia?
My overall impression is even if this fellow had a “prime” once…….. he’s way past it now. Horrible choice for Alaska’s AG!
BTW….does he not know the proceedings he’s now engaged in are written as “confirmation” hearings?? Terribly embarrassing for him that a possible future state AG wrote “conformation” hearings.
The chair of the House Jud. committee is Jay Ramras. He said multiple times that that he believed WAR would be confirmed. So much for an unbiased hearing, huh?
If this confirmation flies it will be a huge embarrassment to the state. Our state goverment will look like a joke with a Diva for a Gov & cartoon character for an AG. Heavy sigh… must have a glass of vino & breathe…
IF w
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On December 6, 1989, Marc Lepine massacred 14 Women, Engineering students at Montreal’s École Polytechnique. His words and misanthropy are eerily verbatim what Wally Ross stated. I say a Psychiatric evaluation, one not in Alaska though, seems there are many short d**k ‘men’ like Ross around there.
That greasy caveman doesn’t know what year it is and all those pals of his, that haven’t dropped him… words fail me. Simply stunning.
Afghan President Hami Karzai, would permit husbands to force themselves on their wives every fourth night, and to decide if their wives and daughters may go to school, seek medical treatment, work outside the home or even go to public places. That’s an editorial. The article HERE. I was bloody outraged, because it seems our boys over there are getting wasted for naught.
What does one do? Execute every man over 40? 35?
Brainwashing starts at an early age.
Get rid if that s**t apple Ross and that gd enabler GINO along with him. Toutes suite.
I participated in the hearings today. i also was dismayed that Mr. Ramras repeatedly stated that he thought WAR was going to be confirmed–why the heck is anyone going thru the motion of testifying when the legislators have made up their minds. I watched the hearing on the gavel to gavel channel. A couple of the legislators were involved with their blackberries. nancy dahlstrom seated next to ramras was playing with hers, distracting ramras who played fingers with her-very goofy.
WHAT was REALLy disturbing however towards the end of the hearing in response to Leah Burton’s testimony, Ramras commented that IF WAR did make the comments alleged by burton, it was 17 years ago and a lot of water has gone under the bridge.
He hoped that WAR had moved on and had grown and did not feel that way now–this my interpretation of Ramras’ comments. Mr ramras also commented that he too “colored out of the lines” in the past and has learned from his mistakes–whatever the heck that means. But if Mr. Ramras believes and made statements that WAR is alleged to have made, then Mr RAmras is NOT fit for office. Any way you cut Ramras’ comments are unacceptable as they condone and dismiss some very concerning belief systems that our soon to be confirmed AG holds. Frightening thought.
RE: 141 Carol Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:57 PM
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AGREED!! I thought the behavior of those members busy texting on their blackberries showed disrespect to the people testifying. It felt like they were just going through the motions of a hearing so they can say they did it. More disturbing was the little finger games going on between Dalstrom & Ramras…that was weird. What the heck was that about? Did they forget they were on TV?
Why do we have to accept that this nominee will be confirmed unless he’s found out to be an axe murderer or the like. If he is an boob he’s a boob. Why waste our time with this guy? Is there some other motive here? Are they going to just confirm him so that Plain looks like a bigger idiot when he really screws something up? Likely just a matter of time. God help the poor employees of the Dept of Law. Hold on to your hats people!!
This one is easy to call, with WAR you will have;
1. Endless WARS with the feds, while taking their money, thank you.
2. Endless frivolous litigation costing AK hundreds of millions
3 WAR against women and all social programs.
4. Efforts to establish a right wing religious theocracy in AK
5. The AIM taking root in state government.
6. Terrible morale in the AG’s office, and anyone competent leaving and being replaced by a Palin/WAR robot.
Good luck AK, you will need it. This may be the most destructive Palin move yet.
I just read WAR’s comment at the hearing that Sarah looked “provocative” in her Arctic Cat outfit.
This guy is permanently stuck in 1962. I can’t imagine any public official making such a statement in the last oh, 40 years or so.
I once thought it impossible for AK to have a public official more ridiculous and embarrasing than the Queen. I was wrong. Good luck AK.
Sorry- from 143 #5 above I meant AIP- Alaska Independent Party (not the AIM- American Indian Movement).
Bottom line – Palin would ONLY appoint WAR in order to have legal support for her mischief, and immunity from any further ethics charges.
The question is whether WAR will be her flunky, like Codpiece, or go rogue on her. Could go either way. Generally, men like WAR who despise uppity women don’t become their doormats.
RE: 141 Carol Says:
April 10th, 2009 at 9:57 PM AND
142 Alaskawoman Says
April 10th, 2009 at 11:56 PM
I totally agree. I was in the room and watched as the representatives busied themselves with other things while people testified. I couldn’t really see what they were doing while I did my testimony but I watched while others in the room and on the phone testified. Coghill repeated wandered out of the room. Others fiddled with papers and Blackberries. Gatto was wandering around with some book. It was ridiculous.
I took time out of my day to prepare my remarks and then to go give them. There are many other things I could have been doing on a Friday evening but I thought it was important. Too bad the representatives didn’t think it was very important. I have testified three times this session and the last time (before a different committee) someone read a newspaper while we were testifying! I get the impression that they have already made up their minds and this is a pain in the a#$ formality that they have to sit through. I am trying hard to not be disillusioned by the process but it is getting hard.
@ Bystanders:
“The question is whether WAR will be her flunky, like Codpiece, or go rogue on her.”
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I think it’s pretty clear he’ll be her flunky when it’s to his advantage and he gets the adulation.
As for going rogue — he’s already there. He IS rogue.