Leathers and Lima Beans
Wayne Anthony Ross, the most controversial, divisive, polarizing man possible to have been selected to be Alaska’s attorney general had a few interesting things to say this week. He always seems to have interesting things to say, and each time the gaffes just pile up. He’s giving the governor a run for her money in the gaffe department. Here are the latest gems.
The Lima Beans
Representative Lindsey Holmes asked Ross how he would view cases involving homosexuality, you know…him thinking they’re “degenerates” and all, and writing it in the Alaska Bar Newsletter.
Ross responded, “Let me give you an analogy. I hate lima beans. I’ve never liked lima beans. But if I was hired to represent the United Vegetable Growers would you ask me if I liked lima beans? No. If I disliked lima beans? No. Because my job is to represent the United Vegetable Growers.”
Now, we love a good analogy here at Mudflats. In fact it’s one of our favorite literary devices. So, if gays are lima beans, and the United Vegetable Growers are the state of Alaska, then what does it sound like when we replace those words in our little analogy?
“I hate gays. I’ve never liked gays. But, if I was hired to represent the State of Alaska, would you ask me if I liked gays? No. If I disliked gays? No. Because my job is to represent the State of Alaska.”
Ah, now we see. So do we feel better now? No.
The Leathers
In public testimony given before the Senate Judiciary Committee last week, a woman who organized a panel discussion with AWAIC (Alaska Women and Children in Crisis) and the court system at the University of Alaska at which Ross was a panelist, stated the following:
“When [Ross] got up and spoke, his views were fairly sexist and the implication was that domestic violence was starting to be on the rise because of the equal rights movement, and that it emasculated men, and therefore they beat their wives. He went on to make insinuations that there wasn’t a lot of real domestic violence and that a lot of women were liars and making it up. I just found those statements to be extremely sexist and the reaction of other people in the room was similar.”
Another woman who had been a citizen lobbyist on behalf of families and children in Alaska with regard to child support, custody, abuse, abandonment and neglect spoke before the House Judiciary Committee the following day about statements she heard at a meeting of Dads Against Discrimination. “Numerous comments were made that were appalling, not the least of which were remarks by Mr. Ross which included the following; “If a guy can’t rape his wife…who’s he gonna rape?” and “There wouldn’t be an issue with domestic violence if women would learn to keep their mouths shut.”
Despite the fact that several women have come forward with stories of Ross’ offensive sexist statements, he vehemently denied making the comments, saying “I don’t talk like that.”
But at the House Judiciary Committee meeting, Representative Jay Ramras expressed some concern over the governor wearing a jacket and pants with a giant Arctic Cat logo on the front (and ”Sarah” embroidered on the placket) at the start of the Iron Dog race. The fact that her husband Todd was being paid by Arctic Cat who sponsored his team, and the fact that getting product placement on the governor’s chest is….”priceless”, resulted in an ethics complaint.
Ramras actually gets that this is inappropriate, and said to Ross “We have a governor who is provocative in a lot of her actions. Recently it comes to mind when she was in Fairbanks for the finish line of the Iron Dog, she was wearing Arctic Cat gear, Arctic Cat leathers, while her husband…
Ross cut him off, and just to prove that he’s not a sexist, he said aloud in a Legislative hearing before the committee, on the record, “She was provocative. She looked very good in it, didn’t she?”
I know this has been a lot to absorb. But carry on with me for another minute on a little voyage of the imagination. Let’s suppose that we’re talking about the confirmation of the Attorney General of the United States, instead of the one for Alaska. It’s basically the same structure. And let’s just say our nomineee, Eric Holder, is before the House Judiciary Committee taking questions to determine suitability for the position. Actually, let’s suppose that our appointee is female….we’ll call her Erica Holder. And suppose Ms. Holder, during her official statement let us all know that she thought Barack Obama looked really provocative in his leathers.
I’ll give you a moment to imagine how the media might react to such a statement. Think through all the political round table discussions, all the talk shows, and late night TV. Think about the newspaper headlines and the reaction of the blogosphere.
Do we believe for one second that this candidate would be taken seriously? Would people be aghast at the disrespect shown to the chief executive? Would this statement be regarded as outrageous and embarrassing? Credibility would be lost instantaneously. And what would people be thinking of the person who nominated this idiot?
Rumors abound that the Legislature is actually getting the picture, and having some serious questions about confirming a man who has been so outspoken in his disdain for subsistence preference, tribal sovereignty, the LGBT community, and now the largest voting block of all – women.
About the only thing that could make him more despised by average Alaskans would be if he outwardly mocked and trivialized the Exxon Valdez oil spill.
Oh, wait…
It is Time We Quit Crying Over the Oil Spill (September 1989)
We see almost every day, the same films of what appears to be the same oil-soaked duck pulled out of the water. The state claims to have a number of refrigerated vans filled with about 30,000 carcasses of waterfowl killed by oil. No doubt some of these birds were casualties of oil. But had several thousand people combed Prince William Sound for dead waterfowl any prior summer, as they did in the summer of 1988 [sic], there is no doubt that an equal number of dead birds could have been accumulated.
What will happen between now and Thrusday’s confirmation hearing? The rumors in Juneau are that there’s about an even split on the votes to confirm or not confirm, and that the governor may not want the vote to go forward if it’s going to be close, or a lose for her. This is the time that emails and phone calls are important.
It’s going to be an interesting week.
In other news….an Oil Soaked Duck issued this in response to the comments of W.A.R.:
“Pppffffttttt…!!!!”
Please,Please,Alaska,just say NO.Send this “thing”back to wherever ‘it’ came from.
Should we call GINO in Jeneau? Or, Anchcourage? Or, Wassilla? Or, Indiana to have her considered withdrawing her declaration of WAR!
If they confirm this guy, you’ll need to impeach them also, too. It would be easier to stop WAR before a real war starts in you legilature. Go get’em, Alaskans!
wow.
it never ceases to amaze me how little distance we as americans have covered.
impeach this man. please please.
AKM wrote: “And what would people be thinking of the person who nominated this idiot?”
Nothing good. Especially since the person nominating this idiot (GINO) is the same person he’s swooning over. Immediately people would think they’re up to hanky-panky. Eww.
From AKM: analogy: “I hate gays. I’ve never liked gays. But, if I was hired to represent the State of Alaska, would you ask me if I liked gays? No. If I disliked gays? No. Because my job is to represent the State of Alaska.”…………………Does that not just frost your duck. When those two words are exchanged, doesn’t that just boil it all down for you about this piece of chit. A bigot and sexist what a waste of good oxygen..
I hear banjos! *plink*plink*plink*
Just a good ol’ boy!
Never meanin’ no harm!
WAR’s mocking and trivialization of the Exxon Valdez oil spill, is eerily similar to the following commentary by Field Marshall Rumsfeld, during a press conference addressing the post-invasion riots in Iraq.
“The images you are seeing on television you are seeing over, and over, and over, and it’s the same picture of some person walking out of some building with a vase, and you see it 20 times, and you think, “My goodness, were there that many vases?” (Laughter.) “Is it possible that there were that many vases in the whole country?”
This is so incredibly embarrassing for Alaskans. Is this the BEST we can find for an AG? He just does not get it. But what amazes me more is that any of our legislators could support him. How could so many of them put politics above the deep-seated lack of humanity and equity this man obviously has….or don’t they understand that? Are they the same way?
Where is Todd and what does he think of W.A.R. oogling his wife?
GINO does her winky-winky and W.A.R. says she’s provocative.
Now I know how Cindy McCain felt at the Repub Convention.
Funny how sarah is gonna be out of state on Thursday.
@Tewise
Yes, it frosts my duck. Hope the legislators can do their own word substitution as well as AKM.
30 years ago, I was hired by a law firm full of WAR’s- bigots, homophobes, and chickenhawks who never quite made it into the service, in spite of being of age during Vietnam. They loved guns and hunting, as long as the prey was not shooting back.
They went to church and declared the importance of faith and family life, while having a mistress or two at all times. and pushing themselves on every staff member who was female and breathing.
They were great at racist, homophobic and anti-female jokes.
WAR is exactly like these guys, straight out of a 1960’s time capsule.
If WAR gets confirmed, you will have a carnival far eclipsing the antics of the Queen.
. Why in the world would SP recommend this? I grew up in a small town, and out of all the men in my life, certainly mature 60’s something men in our community would not display such disrespect in a public setting. This one seems ostentatious, mouthy and coarse. OK, he may have been married 40-some years, but does his wife like hearing him talk like this?
I hope this selection committee sees the light.
Meanwhile back at ADN, all anti-Palin comments on the stimulus funds article are being blocked by the Palin fascists.
Someone really needs to get it together at ADN. They are letting pro-Palin people from out of AK take over their comments sections.
My sympathy for Alaskans increases daily.
The Only bright side to this mess is if WAR is elected, then this will surely be the end of Palin. I hope. Or maybe he will be so crass the media will be watching him instead of Palin. But you know, he will be the end of palin.
if he doesn’t get elected, then the legislature will have to reconvene to elect somebody else and Alaska cost more money.
I’m surprised that the link between the two has not been examined more. She most owe him a hell of a favor for her to risk putting him forward.
And what’s with the website with him already listed as AG. Doesn’t that merit another ethics violation?
If GINO gets this WAR through it will backfire on her, especially with the female vote. She must realise this by now, watch for the big bus.
p.s. The Prez would look good in leathers though, just sayin
I truly, have had ENOUGH! My head is gonna explode….it just never stops, the continuing humiliation of Alaska and the residents of Alaska. I have already sent word to my Senator in regards to this “Goat” Alaskan’s we need to vote in the next AG, along with a new Governor. How do we go about getting this on a ballot measure? Maybe Halcro or Phillip Munger has a better idea on how to move this forward.
All I can say is ewwwwwww!
And, this man needs to be discarded.
And–Sarah Palin is a nightmare the sane people
of Alaska do not deserve and need to get rid of.
Contact your Senators and your Representatives (except for you people in Juneau, you have no Senator at the moment).
Let them know that you are tired of ineptitude and mediocrity being the standard for governance in Alaska. The person heading our state’s Department of Law should be one of the best legal minds in Alaska. Tell them to demand better than what is being shoved off on us.
Here’s how to reach them:
Your Senators can be reached here, and your Representatives here.
If you click on their name, it will take you to their page, where there’s a button to send them an email.
Now some of these legislators are on the right side of this, so with them, you’ll be preaching to the choir. It’s okay to write them anyway, because emails they receive may well help them to change other lawmaker’s minds.
Be polite, but firm. Tell them that you are serious about this, and that you will be watching.
Remind them you have a good memory… and that you vote.
Poor analogies have a way of coming back to bite the unwary.
As one who loves lima beans, I would not want this lawyer anywhere near my Vegetable Growers’ Association. Um, and what’s with comparing people to vegetables? Why not “fruits”? Say what you really mean, WARthog.
ds55 Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 6:49 AM
I hear banjos! *plink*plink*plink*
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*plink*plink*plink* – that’s so graphic that even I’m hearing them now
Just think she could be VP to that aging war hero….. She can see Russia but not hoe hideous her choice is for this state…What does she see in him?? Oh maybe he kills his own food, making him qualified,,,,
Oops. Sorry, AKM. I didn’t mean to slip in the link to my own blog. Honest.
It was a cut and paste mess-up.
Steep learning curve on this HTML stuff.
I wonder how the lima beans really feel?
UK Lady said –
The Prez would look good in leathers though, just sayin
Would Santa bring us this for Christmas?
If we’re all really good? Maybe we could all pitch in and buy President Obama a motorcycle set. 
I’ve worked in the Human Rights field for over 30 years in the 2nd redest state in the union. For years the standing redneck joke here was, “Why take your wife to NV to divorce her, take her to ID and kill her.” As we worked to improve the laws and services here, I watched the worst of the rednecks moved to AK, “were men could be men and women would have to like it or never make it in the wildest towns on earth.”
I’m so sorry that the Gino’s parents joined that migration north. It seems some myths die hard.
Please deny this AG Ross his appointment! After denying making sexist remarks he answers the next question with a sexist remark that had nothing to do with the point of the question. “She looked provocative in it” (How do you look provocative in a huge padded jacket?) He disproved his previous statement. He is either arrogant or stupid. We KNOW he is a liar from these few exchanges. When I first read this in the paper my eyes rolled. We may never get a decent AG appointment from Palin- but this guy needs to be rejected.
Max Blumenthal writes for the Daily Beast on the WARthog. He’s obviously still in touch with the progressive community in AK and is spreading the word. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-13/palins-new-disaster
Thanks for that link, Problem Child.
Thanks to Blumenthal, perhaps this episode of “Sarah’s Adventures in Governing” will now become more than a blip on the national radar.
I had assumed that Ross and Palin liked fava beans and a good Chianti…
@AKRaven
We may never get a decent AG appointment from Palin- but this guy needs to be rejected.
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They could save time if they just pre-rejected any of Palin’s picks. Seems her only consistent pick is dissension and division.
@WolfeTone, maybe the name of their show is “Sarah and Todd’s Illegal Co-Ventures.”
I have written and called the members of both judiciary committees. I expressed to them my opinion on why I would not want WAR confirmed. What I want from the members who have openly stated that they would vote to confirm him to justify that vote to me.
I want them to tell me why they would vote yes, and then I want from them what they asked of me–some kind of proof or an example.
W.A.R.
What A Reject.
There are many men in Alaska like W.A.R. Their refusal to adapt reminds me of ducks who don’t get off the lake in time for freezeup – they swim around in circles but the party is over. Times are changing for some, but for women in rural Alaska, time stands still. Who do they report to, or ‘notify’ as Gov. Palin would have it, in the case of incest, rape, physical abuse or unwanted pregnancy?
I have lived in Alaska since 1974. The W.A.R. men think missing children are runaways, and statistics for physical abuse are crap. That women who get beat up and don’t leave their abuser are plain stupid. That women who dress ‘provocatively’, deserve it. That what a lesbian really needs is a stiff d**k. Stone age thinking for any individual, let alone a man with the power of the Department of Law to back it up.
The thing is, in WAR’s little analogy, he never actually answered the question that was asked. No, we get that he doesn’t like lima beans, and that if he were hired to represent them, he would. But the question was actually “how he would view cases”. Now, that’s fine distinction, but his answer didn’t really address that particular point. I think we all know the answer of “how” he would do it – not very well, or not at all.
And once again, his response about the governor’s clothing. Ramras, it appears, was trying to ask the question in a very tactful manner and all WAR heard was provocative which led him to an sexual point of view. He clearly doesn’t understand the subtleties of the English language. That’s a rather dangerous failing for an attorney general. Add that to the horrible things he has said about women, and it’s an outrage that he was tapped by a woman for the job. What was she thinking? Oh, wait. She doesn’t do that.
I really wish that it was appropriate for non-Alaskans to write and call, but I don’t think that would help. So I’ll join the many who are watching from afar, hoping that the legislature’s spine will remain strong.
It is hard to believe someone lacking the respect of the legal community would be made Attorney General.
Shouldn’t there be basic qualifications other than gun-toting?
Has anyone from the Trial Lawyers Assoc or lawyers groups come forward with the lack of ranking and/or recommendations that this guy has received? The number of trials he has been involved with versus what an AG is suppose to have experience with. The guy is terrible, are there any numbers to back that up?
ATF: What a great idea; asking those on the committees who are voting to confirm Ross, to give you justification of their vote. (Some good example of character, and qualification would me nice!) And of course revealing to us, where their minds are at…
WAR! What is (he) good for? Absolutely NOTHING!
Yeah, I’m sayin’ it “again” b/c that’s what runs through my head every time I hear more about this VILE man. That and an accompanying surge of acidic bile.
the problem child, thank you for the link. This is such a frustrating situation because it is so clear that this man is not fit to hold any public office, let alone one as important as AG. We elect our AG here in MN. I think it might be wise if AK moved in the same direction. At least, then, if a man like Ross gets the job, it’s because a majority of the people wanted him–and not just the fringe.
Nothing Palin does surprises me any more, and I can barely muster up the energy to be mildly outraged. She has worn me out by the sheer volume of her stupidity.
P.S. UK Lady, oh yeah. Now that’s what I’m talking about!
Also, too, WAR’s views on the Federal Government as the perceived enemy (perhaps THIS will be the proverbial straw to break the camels back?).
One thing I keep thinking about re GINO that saddens me: What are the odds that a State like AK would elect a female Governor? A State with a high porportion of macho men did just that. What a victory for women everywhere!
What an opportunity to further the causes of women! But, what did AK get?
A GINO who has set women back 50 years with her winky, incoherent word salad and her total disregard for law and ethics. The tragedy is bigger than GINO – it is a giant set-back for women everywhere.
AKM you are absolutely correct when you say the messages from constituents matter. Alaska is a small town, and the folks in Juneau are responsive to public opinion. If left on their own, we bear part of the blame of their decisions. Thanks again for keeping this on the front burner.
Alaskans, let ‘em know how you feel. If you are a member of an organization, that works great, too.
Problem in the first, lima bean, analogy is that WAR doesn’t answer the question, he answers a different question (kind uh like Sarah).
The analogy would be if the lima beans were bringing suit in the United Veggie Growers court for protection from someone or thing, or for action against someone or thing, or whether the United Veggie Growers SOP recognized them as being equal with other veggies.
The question is whether as atty for the UVG would he be willing to act in an even handed way to veggies he hates.
And the answer he gave was No.
He also did not, in his answer, acknowledge that lima beans are an inseparable part of all the veggies of the UVG. He would not as AG recognize gays even as citizens of Alaska.
This man, and his perverted sick views, are exactly what’s wrong with the USA. This guy is a sick ticket with not one ouce of decency, morality or ethics. If this guy gets elected to this post, well, there will just be no words.
ATF: Smart… very smart.
One thing ALL elected officials seem to forget once in office, regardless of party affiliations, is that they were elected to REPRESENT the PEOPLE, at whatever level. Just because an individual of a specific party designation was chosen, it doesn’t mean that the individual now only speaks for those who cast thier votes for that person… they represent EVERYONE in the local area, district or state. We, as voters, have a RIGHT to ask of these elected representers WHY they chose to vote a certain way, and are ENTITLED to a response! A justification, if you will. If MORE officials were made to explain thier votes, by thier constituants, they may just take a little more time in the decision process and cast the vote FOR the PEOPLE, and not for themselves. It needs to be made abuntantly clear to ANY elected official, the very day after the results are in, that thier job is NOT guaranteed, and thier job is subject to CONSTANT review and critisism. They can be voted OUT as easily as they were voted IN! That means WE, THE PEOPLE need to take more of an active role as watchdogs and overseers. No matter where you live, as an AMERICAN you have the RIGHT… make that the RESPONSIBILITY… to PARTICIPATE in your governing and representation. Get involved… STAY involved… let them know you are watching and evaluating. It matters not your party affiliations, be you a Republican, Democrat or Independent… right, left or center… liberal or conservative… dove or hawk… be a PART of it!
Sorry! Patriot SoapBox moment! I’ll step off now… NEXT!
11 ds55 Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 6:59 AM
Where is Todd and what does he think of W.A.R. oogling his wife?
GINO does her winky-winky and W.A.R. says she’s provocative.
Now I know how Cindy McCain felt at the Repub Convention.
Better yet what does salmon fisherman Dud think about Sarah’s willingness to sacrifice God given salmon runs, and 80K of his income, for the sake of her political future?
Consider the lilys of the fields, they neither sow nor reap. They don’t worship the Queen of the Universe, they’re probably welfare queens, or subsistence hangers on, so –
Let them eat cake.
http://www.statesman.com/news/mediahub/media/slideshow/index.jsp?tId=147644
Ben Sargent works in Austin, Tx. Reference is to Rick Perry Gov.
May be the out of staters can help by forwarding this unbelievable mess to the the national media while the Alaskans work on their elected officials. Just a thought…
And now I know what E. Ross meant by commenting “He doesn’t eat lima beans either,” to my post at PA, “Reading Old Wayne Anthony Ross Op-Eds While Watching ‘Milk’”
I had written that, unlike Dan White, WAR doesn’t eat twinkies.
Palin has pulled some doozies in her short rise to the top but I think the WAR pick has got to go straight to the top of the list. (And that’s saying a lot!)
How anyone but especially a WOMAN could pick this man for anything is beyond disturbing. But my gut feeling is that Palin owes WAR something in the form of some sort of political favor. I don’t think it is any small thing that he represented her in her ethics case against Randy Ruedrich. How did Palin pay for that legal representation? Inquiring minds want to know. Paying her legal fees seems to be a problem for her.
I did a quick down and dirty on the demographics of Alaska. 75% of Alaskans are white. 1/2 of those are women. By my estimation since Palin has alienated women, gays, Native Americans, vegetable lovers and those who were outraged by the Valdez Oil Spill with this atrocious pick, the most support Palin could have left with this latest outrage should be at the very most 37% of Alaskans. And that is assuming every white male supports Palin and her outrageous pick. And we know that isn’t true.
If the legislators can’t figure this one out by now, we need some new legislators!
I’ll bet Beth Kerttula would know what to do!
33 nickzi Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 8:00 AM
I had assumed that Ross and Palin liked fava beans and a good Chianti…
Naw. WAR would like red beans, and bear meat, geen onions. with about 12brewskies, with lots of belch and f(*&.
Jason Linkins on HuffPost… short, sweet, and to the point…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/13/palins-attorney-general-p_n_186201.html
A suggestion: Alaska residents should call their local representatives or Senators and give their views on the WAR appointment. Apparently the legislators are being flooded with out-of-state emails about this and are getting frustrated.
A phone call doesn’t take long, but lets you be clearly identified as a constituent, and will receive a lot more consideration than an email.
Calling all activists!
New Juneau Empire Poll of the Week:
Should Senate Democrats continue to reject Gov. Sarah Palin’s appointments to the Juneau seat until she sends forward one of the four names recommended by the local Democratic party?
http://www.juneauempire.com
Um…I just went to the HuffPost link and listened. Ross can’t even speak coherently–it sounds like he’s drunk. This guy is a complete buffoon in every sense.
56 BahstinBoyo aka Wrangler Tractor Palin Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 9:20 AM
Jason Linkins on HuffPost… short, sweet, and to the point
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Ya gotta love those comments !! People from around the world are watching this……….I hope the Leg. realizes that.
I just went back to my Ben Sargent Austin American link.
You have to hit Next in upper right and go to cartoon 2/12
Other that that Sargent is a Pulitzer Prize winnng cartoonist, mostly does Texas stuff but is usually right on.
Donna: You mentioned the word ‘buffoon’… just for grins, I went here… good for a chuckle… EVERY daffy-nition hits home! In EVERY language no less! I know the matter at hand is far from comical… but we would cry if it were not for laughter.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/buffoon
A button for the store, buy in bulk…..IMPEACH GINO
HA! Just posted Mudflats link and Phil Mungers on to the Huffpo story, rubbing hands together self importantly here!
p.s. Snoskred @ 28 – where’s the donate button?
AsingrrrlMN – Raises the bloomin’ pulse rate just thinking about it. Lucky Michelle.
mwThatOne: And the bumper sticker to go with it… the same image as on the sign on 3rd Avenue… just add ‘Enough Is Enough, Already,Also.’
What can one say – there seems to be a situation-comedy soap opera playing out up in Alaska and the citizens are the suckers being played for fools.
Other than some 2-bit banana republic with a tinpot dictator, I can’t think of any progressive and responsible places that are so dismissive of everyone except for the white, male and low-IQed. The appearance of corruption is just mind-boggling. Your Toxic Tootsie does not seem to like people very much what with her flagrant attempts of putting very questionable types into positions of authority. Quite incredible that a majority would put up with this crap and pay for it to boot!
I’m updating the info I posted last week about the MOST EFFECTIVE way to get in your comments about the AG confirmation. Bear w/ me if it’s a bit wordy!
The FINAL confirmation hearing is this Thurs, April 16th. Public or organization comments are STILL being accepted through the end of Weds, April 15 so that they can be entered into the public record and distributed with the legislative committee packets for the hearing.
Non Alaskans – If you are not a resident but want to comment (they are getting TONS of comments from conservatives who do not live here), then email the Legislators directly. The committee legislators are listed at the bottom, or if you want to email ALL of the legislators, then follow these links for all of the email contacts:
http://house.legis.state.ak.us/
http://senate.legis.state.ak.us/
ALASKANS – When I talked to Jane Pierson last week who is the Committee Aide for the House Judiciary Committee, she said the BEST way to make sure your comment is received and recorded is to submit the comment DIRECTLY via email or fax to each Committee Aide. You can CC your representatives, but the original contact should be directly to the committee (there is a possibility of delay or lost information for the committee packets & record if submitted only to the legislator’s emails).
So fax or email your comments to BOTH Committee Aides listed before the end of this coming Weds! Bury them!
And on a GOOD note, both offices are crazy busy and they’ve had lots of public contact! Keep it coming!
HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
Jane Pierson, Committee Aide
jane_pierson AT legis.state.ak.us
Phone: 907.465.4990
Fax: 907.465.2070
Representative_Jay_Ramras@legis.state.ak.us (CHAIR)
Representative_Nancy_Dahlstrom@legis.state.ak.us
Representative_John_Coghill@legis.state.ak.us
Representative_Carl_Gatto@legis.state.ak.us
Representative_Bob_Lynn@legis.state.ak.us
Representative_Max_Gruenberg@legis.state.ak.us
Representative_Lindsey_Holmes@legis.state.ak.us
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
Cindy Smith, Committee Aide
cindy_smith AT legis.state.ak.us
Phone: 907.465.3717
Fax: 907.465.6595
Senator_Hollis_French@legis.state.ak.us (CHAIR)
Senator_Bill_Wielechowski@legis.state.ak.us
Senator_Lesil_McGuire@legis.state.ak.us
Senator_Gene_Therriault@legis.state.ak.us
Just read and watched the video on the Huffington site. It brings to life the players for those outside AK.
To see and hear W.A.R. – reminds me of those fat, dirty old men sitting in their cars on the street corner waiting for a young girl to pass by. The window is open and they wolf whistle and call out “Hey little girl, come see what Daddy has for ya”. You can conclude the balance of the vision. You’d be right.
He just appeared far too excited when discussing Palin in leathers. His speech was clearer. His face appeared flushed. He wouldn’t be welcome in my home if he was my father. Would never trust him around children, most certainly young girls.
He’s disgusting.
Palin needs this distraction, (and others) because of her inability to comprehend and act on the stimulus monies. That is the critical story for Alaskans.
As AKM pointed out, in reporting Palins radio interview;
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/04/11/palin-interview-a-seven-course-salad/
Palin continues to espouse “strings attached” nonsense. These comments are factually wrong, and the legislators are aware of this. I am sure the pointed this out in their talks with her.
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/03/26/correcting-the-factual-errors-of-sarah-palins-stimulus-talking-points-2/.
Further to this, Palin wants to stop spending state monies and replace them with stimulus monies.
There are 300 million citizens in the US, who are aware that this is NOT what the stimulus is intended for, NOR will Palin or any other Governor be allowed to abuse the funding in this manner.
I sincerely hope that Palin does not take this so far, that Alaskans are denied all or part of these monies, because of her ineptitude.
I hope the legislators have the ability to consider a vote of non confidence, if she continues down this Path.
PS
I read a cute comment on Huff. Po…. Ross is Palins’ Boss Hogg..made me laugh.
A bit of his hearing is on Huffington now, including the “provocative” comment. Those who have not heard WAR speak prior to this may be amazed at what a truly repulsive fat little toad he is. He sounds drunk.
Marnie – Your mention of Ben Sargent reminded me of missed and beloved Molly Ivins. Here are a couple of quotes sarah should read :
The first rule of holes: when you’re in one, stop digging.
Being slightly paranoid is like being slightly pregnant – it tends to get worse.
Shout out from Ca….Wooo Hooo Alaska..It can be done!!!
I bet that W.A.R. frequents “Gentleman’s Clubs”.
Update on my update:
I was unable to reach Cindy Smith before I posted the “update” on contacting the committees for WAR commentary. Cindy just called me back to let me know how her office (the Senate Judiciary Committee) is handling this (a little differently than the House Committee who maybe has more staff?):
Alaskans – if you get your comments in by the end of TODAY directly to her email or fax, she will make sure it gets into the packets which take awhile to prepare. If you miss the today (Monday) deadline, then email THE ENTIRE SENATE AND HOUSE members directly (not just the committee members), right up until the final confirmation on Thurs. Even if those comments do not make it into the public record, they will noted by all the legislators who received them – letting them know how YOU feel about all of this.
Non Alaskans – feel free to email ALL the legislators, too since that’s what the conservatives who don’t live here are doing. This holds a lot more sway than clicking on one of those dumb online newspaper polls – I really think your emails will have an impact! Thank you for your help and support over and over again.
My first update here is pending moderation due to links…if it doesn’t appear soon I will post a shortened, linkless version.
Max Blumenthal’s Daily Beast article from this morning on WAR:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-13/palins-new-disaster/full/
UPDATE – Story has been bumped up and Celtic Diva is up top in the comments.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/13/palins-attorney-general-p_n_186201.html
Haven’t read the HuffPo story yet… but I would think the national MSM would be following that. I already called CNN, Rick Sanchez and Roland Martin, this morning on the toll free numbers…. again.
I put this idea on the other thread earlier. Somebody needs to make a YouTube clip. We know how a good, or funny or outrageous clip spreads. It could pick up momentum fast. Some kind of clip in front of that BIG ‘ Impeach Palin ‘ sign.
Who wants to be in a video….?
Can I just remind everyone –
If you post a comment with an email you sent to the Alaskan Legislators and you remove your name..
Unfortunately the Alaskan Legislators now have your name etc, also your email address. They could easily google the net with the text of your letter, and then they would know what pseudonym you are using online.
As we know there is at least one legislator who has no respect for anonymity, I would like us to be very cautious about this. It is small things like this which can cause anonymity to be undone.
So please, be careful.
If I see letters posted where this has happened I will mark them as pending and email you to confirm you want it posted. It is better to be safe than lose your anonymity without wanting to.
Cheers,
Snoskred
According to two sources close to the confirmation hearings, Palin may ask Ross to withdraw before his appointment comes to a vote.
Selections like war for ag ought to work magic on ginos poll numbers.
I’m really starting to believe she is self destructive.
She is either clever like the most clever fox I have ever seen or she really is her own worst enemy.
but the thought of her and war as gino and ag scares the hell outta me!!
excellent post AKM!
keep up the good work!
Time for me to click on your Paypal Button and drop a few bucks on ya!
btw, now that some a$$wipe has outed you, have you thought about a run for gov in 2010?
just saying!
80 BPOINT Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 10:44 AM
According to two sources close to the confirmation hearings, Palin may ask Ross to withdraw before his appointment comes to a vote.
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Do tell……..on her way out of town I’m sure.
Drew, I’m going with she is her own worst enemy. Look at what she did with the Levi situation. She’s sounding more like those quotes above from Hitler every time she opens her mouth. If she had any sense, she would realize she should have blinked and she was wired for the mission of keeping her mouth shut instead of inserting her foot, time after time after time.
If Gino doesn’t withdraw WAR, this is going to draw big national notice. Her best bet is to withdraw him at this stage, damage control. The big problem for Gino is that she can’t take no for an answer, so we may as well sit back and enjoy the show.
CNN just started the broadcast with their ‘teaser Headlines’.. coming up on this show.
Sanchez quoted Palins remark about Levi ‘Over my dead body’… no story yet. just the tease.
FYI : I forgot….. Celtic Diva has posted remarks within the thread on the HuffPo story now and made comments there. Posted some links to testimony etc..
austintx Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 10:56 AM
80 BPOINT Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 10:44 AM
According to two sources close to the confirmation hearings, Palin may ask Ross to withdraw before his appointment comes to a vote.
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Do tell……..on her way out of town I’m sure.
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Here is the link. The statement is in the first paragraph….
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-04-13/palins-new-disaster
austintx Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 10:56 AM
80 BPOINT Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 10:44 AM
According to two sources close to the confirmation hearings, Palin may ask Ross to withdraw before his appointment comes to a vote.
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Do tell……..on her way out of town I’m sure.
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Wonder if she’s packed all her bags. Maybe she’s planning to govern in absentia.
86 honestyinGov Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 11:03 AM
CNN just started the broadcast with their ‘teaser Headlines’.. coming up on this show.
Sanchez quoted Palins remark about Levi ‘Over my dead body’… no story yet. just the tease.
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Gotcha……switched over from MSNBC.
The Attorney General of the State of Alaska waxes nostalgic about threatening a German tourist with a gun.
“I had to place the barrel of my revolver alongside the German’s ear before he calmed down…”
http://rossandminer.com/articles/90-06-17.html
Anchorage Times, June 17, 1990
…good times…
@Lance
How is “in absentia” any different from “governing from Wasilla?”
According to this , this is the largest right-to-life banquet in the world. Wonder if Bristol is going ??
http://www.evansvilleforlife.com/vcrtl/?p=10
From the You just can’t make this stuff up department
“She was provocative. She looked very good in it, didn’t she?”
Ugh….
I hate to say this, but how would one make a passenger behave that was “punching the pilot, threatening to wreck the plane” – ? True, this is how it was presented by Ross… so the veracity is anyone’s guess.
Also (too), the best that I could say after hearing Ross being questioned would be that he really does sound ill. As if he has health issues of some kind.
All that said, I so hope you aren’t stuck with him as AG. A disaster in the making, that.
Nan Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 11:10 AM
@Lance
How is “in absentia” any different from “governing from Wasilla?”
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LOL, you’re right. I meant way out of state ‘in absentia’.
92 Nan Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 11:10 AM
@Lance
How is “in absentia” any different from “governing from Wasilla?”
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HaHaHa………….No S^*T !! Good one !!
Did anyone watch the face of the woman next to Rep Ramras when Ross said that bit about SP “looked good” in the Arctic Cat gear? Very subtle, but there was a reaction.
I swear, reading this blog is like riding that wooden rollercoaster at Fiesta Texas… I tell myself I’m getting off and NOT getting back on. But once I toss up my cotton candy, I’m ready for another ride.
Thanks for riding in the first car, AKM!
Well Muddies you all got my attention.soooooo i’m going to go to Huffo Post and catch the latest..LMAO
I think Palin has to withdraw Ross’s name now. Look, she’s already a laughingstock to most Americans not watching FOX. If this pick goes through, I believe that while it will satisfy her base (god, how I hate that phrase), it will only serve to reinforce the notion that she is, quite frankly, crazed.
However, I think she is in the self-immolation stage at this point. She is panicking because it’s all slipping from her grasp, so she hunkers down and redoubles her effort. Which, as we all know, is the classical definition of insane, per Einstein.
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
@ Nan
Yes, I noticed the prolonged wincing eyeblink. As to Ross being ill, he sounds (and looks) like he’s suffering from congestive heart failure, JMO.
P.S. UK Lady, Michelle is a very, very lucky woman indeed. My mom told me, “Maybe you’ll find your own Barack Obama some day.” One can only hope, right?
Just a question… could Palin be dragging her feet on replacing the Juneau senate position because if she appoints the kind of Democrat she shoud, then that person would likely vote against WAR?
New post!
Marnie Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 9:19 AM
33 nickzi Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 8:00 AM
I had assumed that Ross and Palin liked fava beans and a good Chianti…
Naw. WAR would like red beans, and bear meat, geen onions. with about 12brewskies, with lots of belch and f(*&.
I am guessing you missed Silence of the Lambs *s*
How could any person listen to his answers not think that he is out of his freakin’ mind? How could anyone vote for him? Even the Repubs have got to think that this man should just crawl back into the hole he crawled out of. R i g h t………………?
The scariest thing about these people (Mike Doogan – in his e-mails, SP, WAR) is that they don’t even realize how crazy and inappropriate they sound. Can you imagine what they say in private? They would never last in the business world I’ll tell you that.
nickzi – I was guessing that too. Maybe not a bad thing – Yikes.
99 txindygirl Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I swear, reading this blog is like riding that wooden rollercoaster at Fiesta Texas… I tell myself I’m getting off and NOT getting back on. But once I toss up my cotton candy, I’m ready for another ride.
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Thanks for the warning………I’ll make sure to sit in front of you !!
Ok, I just watched the clip, and there is something physically wrong with Ross. He does not sound like a well man at all–and I am not talking about his mental state this time.
Even when he’s asked what Palin has done wrong, he has to fire a shot across the bow at the Dems. Gah.
For anyone presently living in AK and are going to making a phone call to the Legs. who will be making this decision I would use this most recent HuffPo story toward the reason to vote ‘No’.
They think they can sit there anonymously… and it will not affect them personally or affect their position as Legislateurs. They will simply vote yes.. or no… and it will be done. THAT’s where they are wrong.
Press them and MAKE THEM see that the national spotlight(the HuffPo story) is now on ‘them’…. even more than GINO about this vote. THEY will be and are being looked at closely. The National Press is watching. They can not hide their Vote. Ask them directly if they read the Huffpo story…?….
And TELL them to read the comments under the story…because the rest of America now see’s WAR for who he is.
Here’s an idea:
If you want to email them…. ‘cut & paste’ the comments directly off the Huffpo story thread today. Let them see and know how they are being perceived by outside Alaska. Paste a whole page of comments. The spotlight and Heat is on Them.
just wondering,
did gino get McCain’s people to vet W.A.R. for her, cause it sure seems like a similar vetting job to me.
Celtic Diva over at “Blue Oasis” has a link to a excellent piece by Max Blumenthal on “The Daily Beast” titled “Palin’s New Disaster”
Here’s suggestions for the legislature. Alison Mendel for Attorney General!
How about:
Bob Wagstaff
Judge Frederick Torrisi
Heather Kendall-Miller
Judge John R. Lohff
Judge Beverly W. Cutler
Judge Joel Bolger
Phil Weidner
Doug Pope
Sidney K. Billingslea
There are so many excellent legal minds in Alaska. This is embarrasing.
Don’t know if it’s already been posted here, but Andrew Sullivan (The Atlantic) has two bits on his blog about the disaster that is WAR. Nice to see that outsiders have noticed that our gov is determined to drag Alaska into the black right-wing nutter hole with her.
I would love to hear of one single thing, just one, that our gov has done that has benefited Alaska that has not been done to further her own personal interests or agenda. I cannot think of one, and I would love to hear it if someone has an example!
in taking a small break from fun and sun here in suny Florida, I must comment.
This Ross guy is just the kind of man that makes me want to grab him HARD by the nads and TWIST them till he sings falsetto.
Ok, back to the beach!
When I saw that video of Ramras slamming WAR, I cheered loudly for Ramras and played it again. Then it hit me. I had heard that infantile voice before. It was a haunting memory from my childhood that reignited a looming question — one that struck me with both an irrational fear and equally irrational yearning to return to my childhood and confront an unresolved conflict that had tormented me for many, many years.
The question, now so elegantly answered?
“Who was that demented and sexually conflicted hunter that the writers of Looney Toons based the character Elmer J Fudd upon ? ”
Yes, indeed, the answer is clear.
“WAR! Ugghhh! What is it good for?! Absolutely nuthin’! Say it again!…..WAR! …… Absolutely nuthin!”
I just found this on “the Alaska Report”;
Wayne Anthony Ross goes down the drain
Palin’s pick for Alaska’s attorney general doesn’t have the votes.
I don’t know if it’s true, and I would NOT want this to deter anyone from sending e-mails, making phone calls etc, to the legislators.
I certainly hope that this IS true though. I know a large part of a result like this would be due to the diligence of AKM, Martha Unalaska Yard Sign and all the other “mudpuppies”.
This from Newminer:
•Gov. Sarah Palin committed a “terrible breach of respect” to the Legislature by yelling at the staff of the House speaker, Mike and Tim Bradner report in their latest newsletter.
The Bradners’ Legislative Digest reports that Palin was upset about an aide to House Speaker Mike Chenault who printed details on her scheduled trip back East for 36 hours during the final days of the Legislature. She “forcefully” scolded the aide, the newsletter says.
“This lack of decorum has never happened before,” say the Bradners, who have been tracking legislative matters longer than anyone in Alaska.
Look, I know Alaska has a small population and this would naturally lead to a tiny pool of qualified candidates for a position like AG but surely there is no need to siphon the sediment from the pool bottom in order to fill the position? Demand better for yourselves. These people work for you. Alaskan government should not be a private fiefdom for the Palin pack. That said, at least your state government bozos operate somewhat in the open. Who knows what our state bozos in Albany (New York) agree to in their infamous “behind closed doors” decisions.
@BPOINT…
nice piece of insider news… no surprise… isn’t this the way she treated the McCain people? And the girls on the high school b-ball team?
Also, too… I was taking a trip down memory lane yesterday and replayed the Turkey pardoning video on ADN. After Palin is asked what she is grateful for, she launches into the phoney family bit… Around 1:45 to 1:49 she tilts her head to the side and makes a weird snarky comment. So obviously insincere. What does anyone make of that?
CNN’s Rick Sanchez started off his show with ‘headline teasers’ and palins remarks about Levi ” Over my dead body” . The press conference of Gibbs ran over… he never came back to it. He was already covering GINO and had some story lined up. (ask him to cover it)
You can call and ask what his story was going to be…. or ask him to report it …etc.
1 877 692 – 6609
At the same time ask him about WAR on Huffpo…another part to the coverage.
I have been reading Mudflats for some time and couldn’t imagine how the legislators could consider WAR. But I didn’t appreciate how truly ugly it was until I watched the video clip about Sarah being “provocative”.
Words fail me. What a slimy man. While I probably wouldn’t have used the same example, Canadian Neighbour hit the nail on the head. Yech and pooey! I feel for his wife…assuming she just puts up with him and doesn’t go along with his views.
I also agree, as an RN, that he does not look well and he sounds worse.
Good luck up there. I will e-mail as suggested and keep watching. With all the publicity Alaska has received thanks to Palin, I really believe that the outcome of this nomination will be widely watched elsewhere and maybe other governors will think twice before putting forward objectionable people. We can always hope.
This story is getting around about WAR. Read the comments, there is a great one about Alaskan blggers by someone called ‘mirage’.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/13/719567/-Wayne-Anthony-Ross-is-on-my-sh*t-list-(updated)
OMG! Just read all the comments on the story I linked above, one poster claims to know Palin and WAR personally, and doesn’t think she intends to run for Gov again, but is cementing her right wing credentials!!. There are some fab mentions of AKM and other AK bloggers though. They think AK bloggers are inventing a new kind of blogging, sharing info but keeping own identity.
Think I’m talking to myself, but hey ho!, Daily Kos have another story up too, Has Palin shoved Bobby Jindal under the bus?’, it is a bit far fetched even for me, but funny.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/13/719588/-Did-Sarah-Palin-Throw-Bobby-Jindal-Under-the-Bus
No, confirm him! Then, when Ms. Palin runs for prez in 4 years, have him be his running mate! That way Obama will win re-election by a LANDSLIDE!
Muahahahahaha!!!!!
UK Lady – Jindal might run for Senate against Vidder. You know , the guy that wears diapers with hookers.
http://wonkette.com/407735/jindal-to-run-for-senate-in-2010#more-407735
The Exorcist vs. The Diaper Guy? Ohhh, pleeeease. Comedy gold! (except for the people of Louisiana) AKM
Here is a link to Alaska law re: recall. Hoping someone sees this and at least bookmark it for the (sooner rather than later) future.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Laws_governing_recall_in_Alaska
Please at least check it out.
Here is yet again another blog on sarah. She does look rather cross-eyed.
http://www.shortsshortsshorts.com/?p=1836
AKM…Mixing my vegetable analogies here….you peeled the onion beautifully on the lima bean analogy!
Who knew that lima beans are a good cover for hate and homophobia? I assume his analytic skills are only as deep as the next bean on his plate. Pitiful.
I’m unfortunately left with the clinical impression that his frontal lobes are actually the size of lima beans….and he’s in acute need of of a Lima Lobotomy.
I never did hear back with any responses from my emails to all your state rep & sen re: WAR and palin.
I guess my comments stung a little…they do say the truth hurts!
With the recent stories today on both Huffpo and The Daily Beast I sent another letter to DOJ saying more evidence came forward. Saying as an AG he would be a disgrace to all other AG’s as well as to the Dept. as a whole. Couldn’t hurt.
http://www.usdoj.gov/contact-us.html
BigSlick Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 12:09 PM
When I saw that video of Ramras slamming WAR, I cheered loudly for Ramras and played it again. Then it hit me. I had heard that infantile voice before. It was a haunting memory from my childhood that reignited a looming question — one that struck me with both an irrational fear and equally irrational yearning to return to my childhood and confront an unresolved conflict that had tormented me for many, many years.
The question, now so elegantly answered?
“Who was that demented and sexually conflicted hunter that the writers of Looney Toons based the character Elmer J Fudd upon ? ”
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Yes, when I first heard him Elmer Fudd. And according to a handwriting expert, he has “sexual hangups”…..
asiangrrlMN Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Ok, I just watched the clip, and there is something physically wrong with Ross. He does not sound like a well man at all–and I am not talking about his mental state this time.
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I agree..I listened to several minutes of the audio of him in front of the leg and he sounded horrible. Mumbling, slurring, short of breath. When asked about what Ak AGs he respected the most and which he didn’t, he ranted on about how a couple treated him as a new attorney..NOTHING about their decisions or terms as AGs or ANYthing. Just how they treated him as a brand new attorney. I clicked off after he said “please don’t make it so I have to go home to my wife and tell her I didn’t get the job like I had to do when I was a brand new attorney looking for a job”. His words on paper on bad enough, via audio he is even creepier!!!
New thread alert!
there was another confirmation hearing that had a potential candidate with no practical experience for top lawyer position, but a heady crush on the “chief executive”………..harriet miers and good ole bushboy.
and we saw how that went down nationally… fast and furiously.
diligence, alaska, diligence
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austintx Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 1:48 PM
UK Lady – Jindal might run for Senate against Vidder. You know , the guy that wears diapers with hookers.
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It looks like Jindal denies running against Vitter however Jindal IS going to write a book. Which seems like one of the new prerequisites to run for POTUS….
I emailed the House members today – so far have heard back from Foster and Gara.
115 SMR – I’m with you. I keep asking GINO supporters to list her actual accomplishments for me. So far I’ve had no takers.
I watched the clip. I can’t picture this guy testifying before a supreme court, or any court for that matter.
From where did the Ross quote regarding crying over the Exxon Valdez oil spill come? You are usually so good about citing your source.
Ross/ExxonValdez spill had link to Progressive Alaska in the first sentence. Didn’t see source there though. I read it somewhere else too, trying to find where.
In Phil’s article, he states that he looked up a bunch of old articles on microfiche. He did the grunt work himself. AKM
The Exorcist vs. The Diaper Guy? Ohhh, pleeeease. Comedy gold! (except for the people of Louisiana) AKM
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Actually it’s even better than that !!
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/09/stormy-daniels-vitter/
W.A.R. Reminds me of a nasty perv..Makes me want to take a shower
AKM I don’t know if anyone has posted this yet, but you made it to Wonkette with the above Lima-beany post
http://wonkette.com/407762/a-childrens-treasury-of-delightful-quotes-from-sarah-palins-attorney-general-nominee#more-407762
What I did was find the major paper in Evansaville and and asked the right to life people how they could condone having Palin there as sh seemed to think it was ok for people to violently hurt people at at Clinics when they do so much more than just abortions ,like give out birth control, give family planning consuling,how could they keep saying abortion is so bad in all cases yet still condone the killing of innocent people that may have worked at any clinic,Just does not make sense to me. I will do the same with thsi war thing.Maybe some of those women will think twice about what she is really all about
Several people have commented that WAR doesn’t appear too healthy. After watching the Youtube with the provocative statement a couple of times, I agree. He’s obviously got weight problems, huffing & puffing, slow to talk. Loss of oxygen would make it more difficult for him to argue his cases, or think quickly (staying at the top of his game).
I had another thought. If WAR is a ’successful’ attorney, wouldn’t he make more money, than that of an AG? Consider the other offices he has tried to pursue, even though barely qualified, he keeps TRYING to get a Govt job.
HOWEVER, once he might be placed in office as a Govt employee, wouldn’t that provide him with Medical Insurance? WithOUT pre-existing conditions potentially excluding him? Even if he didn’t last very long in the position, it would also set him up for another 29months of COBRA Medical Insurance. Worth perhaps thousands of dollars these days. Medicare doesn’t pay top dollar to doctors, like Govt Medical Insurance on the job.
I wonder if that might be a factor playing into this process?
The most fun I have had with a candidate since the Texas GOP governor nominee who stated that if rape becomes inevitable women should just “lay back and enjoy it.”
Okay, well, I’m not sure how to respond to that one. I have some very good friends who are “lima beans”. I’ve never liked lima beans either, but then again, I don’t eat “lima beans”.
Clearly, I forgot to submit my oil-covered Peeps in time for the big contest. Opportunity wasted!
(Me) – Ross said “Ross responded, “Let me give you an analogy. I hate lima beans. I’ve never liked lima beans. But if I was hired to represent the United Vegetable Growers would you ask me if I liked lima beans? No. If I disliked lima beans? No. Because my job is to represent those vegetables and fruits”
(Ross) – I never said I’d represent those fruits.
( Me ) Thank you sir.
Wow. Just…wow.