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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding #175 AA: 
April 16th, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Your post was very interesting, AA. It was almost a dissection of the disenchantment process with this particular politician. From the sounds of it, you gave Palin every bit of the doubt and then some....

Thanks for posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding #175 AA:<br />
April 16th, 2009 at 2:02 PM</p>
<p>Your post was very interesting, AA. It was almost a dissection of the disenchantment process with this particular politician. From the sounds of it, you gave Palin every bit of the doubt and then some&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Blue Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie Blue Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polly Says: 
April 16th, 2009 at 7:13 AM 
I highly recommend the book “Living in Sin” by Bishop John Shelby Spong. The title makes it sound like a condemnatory book, however, it brings the Biblical text into the 21st Century, where God loves everyone. 

Bishop Spong uses science and scripture to defend the gay community, as well as those living together outside of marriage.
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I so enjoy listening to Mr Spong when he comes to Australia. He&#039;s a remarkable human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polly Says:<br />
April 16th, 2009 at 7:13 AM<br />
I highly recommend the book “Living in Sin” by Bishop John Shelby Spong. The title makes it sound like a condemnatory book, however, it brings the Biblical text into the 21st Century, where God loves everyone. </p>
<p>Bishop Spong uses science and scripture to defend the gay community, as well as those living together outside of marriage.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
I so enjoy listening to Mr Spong when he comes to Australia. He&#8217;s a remarkable human being.</p>
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		<title>By: AA</title>
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		<dc:creator>AA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On earlier post - 
&quot;At one point, someone complimented her hand-painted clogs. “Cute shoes,” the person said. Ms. Palin responded, ...“I may not be able to tell you who paints them or I may be charged with an ethics violation or something.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/politics/16palin.html?ref=us

How cute! The Governor gave a little shout-out to Romney. (Dansko Romney, not politician Romney.) Nice. Romney doesn&#039;t mind at all. She&#039;s had Palin on her website for a looong time. And she likes a bit of attention and drama. [Now there&#039;s an interview...] http://www.romneydesigns.com/

 No, Governor, not an ethics issue...unless you had some kind of contractual obligation with Romney for advertising.

Her statement to the NY Times is a turning point/milestone for me. While I&#039;ve tracked the Governor&#039;s actions, it&#039;s always been from judicious evaluative position, with an eye to fairness. I don&#039;t mind a &quot;spunky&quot; &quot;breath of fresh air&quot; approach. I certainly don&#039;t mind a politician stepping out of the box and doing it differently. All along, I&#039;ve been careful to avoid making assumptions, considering the source of the info, and fact-checking before I made up my mind; always wondering if there might be more to the story. I don&#039;t mind someone less sophisticated; there&#039;s some real power in genuine honesty without trappings. I thought that if she&#039;s the &#039;real thing&#039; she would have the capacity to grow into the job and fulfil potential.

I&#039;ve never had a preconceived critical perception, or looked for &#039;dirt&#039; on Sarah Palin, wife, mother, Chuck and Sally&#039;s daughter, from Wasilla. It&#039;s not personal. My scrutiny has been of the Alaska political scene and the action of the Governor of the State of Alaska. Nothing different than any other administration, any other time.

Here&#039;s the thing - Sarah, the person, had a broad base of supporters across Alaska, crossing all party lines, socioeconomics, ethnicities, industries, etc. Alaska has a long history of voting the individual rather than party, and less partisanship to its politics than most places. People were excited and eager for her success.
In the role of a Vice-Presidential nominee, and then Governor, she&#039;s been losing that support. Borrowing rhetoric from outstates politics, the Governor delivered lessons on partisan politics and blows to her supporters. In action, the Governor has hopelessly squandered the approval of Alaska&#039;s citizens. From all parties. And she can&#039;t get it back. 

A few genuine &#039;ooops&#039; moments along the way are no big deal. But the statement to the New York Times illustrates her mindset and intentions. Probably nothing more than a snotty smart-ass comment made off the cuff, she doesn&#039;t realize the far-reaching impact of such a statement. Or more likely - she really doesn&#039;t care. 
It reveals calculated disingenuous responses and behavior. Mrs. Palin knows perfectly well what sponsorships and endorsements are; she didn&#039;t need any explanations on how that might not be appropriate, she knows. And she always has. 

The same thing with the campaign clothing issue. I looked for excuses to give her a pass, but there aren&#039;t any. I thought that she possibly wasn&#039;t educated about campaign finance rules and she could be forgiven for that. Any thinking person would have some &#039;spidey-sense&#039; and wonder if if it was all okay and appropriate. If you genuinely didn&#039;t know, you&#039;d ask. But as an &quot;experienced&quot; politician, she had to have known. She not only ran for office, but she was the whistle-blower for someone else&#039;s ethics. 
She didn&#039;t care. She thought she&#039;d get away with it.

She&#039;s not going to own it-she&#039;s going to keep on being mean about it. To us, her constituents. She&#039;s got no sympathy for the rules that the rest of us MUST live by, whether we like them or not, or we&#039;ll lose jobs.

Mrs. Palin, you&#039;ve betrayed the confidence and loyalty of so many Alaskans. People who supported you on a personal level and because of old-fashioned Alaska connections and relationships that YOU used to your advantage while campaigning - the Palin family, Todd&#039;s grandmother, the connection to Dillingham and Homer, commerical fishing, the church and the Native card. We really trusted you, Sarah. In a personal way.You&#039;ve done nothing to return that honor, and worse, you&#039;ve done harm.
I think that you forget that you wouldn&#039;t have been elected Governor without us. 

No, it saddens me that you&#039;re just one more politician with the same old attitude. You are a card-carrying member and continuing the tradition of the &quot;Corrupt Bastards Club&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On earlier post &#8211;<br />
&#8220;At one point, someone complimented her hand-painted clogs. “Cute shoes,” the person said. Ms. Palin responded, &#8230;“I may not be able to tell you who paints them or I may be charged with an ethics violation or something.”<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/politics/16palin.html?ref=us">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/politics/16palin.html?ref=us</a></p>
<p>How cute! The Governor gave a little shout-out to Romney. (Dansko Romney, not politician Romney.) Nice. Romney doesn&#8217;t mind at all. She&#8217;s had Palin on her website for a looong time. And she likes a bit of attention and drama. [Now there's an interview...] <a href="http://www.romneydesigns.com/">http://www.romneydesigns.com/</a></p>
<p> No, Governor, not an ethics issue&#8230;unless you had some kind of contractual obligation with Romney for advertising.</p>
<p>Her statement to the NY Times is a turning point/milestone for me. While I&#8217;ve tracked the Governor&#8217;s actions, it&#8217;s always been from judicious evaluative position, with an eye to fairness. I don&#8217;t mind a &#8220;spunky&#8221; &#8220;breath of fresh air&#8221; approach. I certainly don&#8217;t mind a politician stepping out of the box and doing it differently. All along, I&#8217;ve been careful to avoid making assumptions, considering the source of the info, and fact-checking before I made up my mind; always wondering if there might be more to the story. I don&#8217;t mind someone less sophisticated; there&#8217;s some real power in genuine honesty without trappings. I thought that if she&#8217;s the &#8216;real thing&#8217; she would have the capacity to grow into the job and fulfil potential.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never had a preconceived critical perception, or looked for &#8216;dirt&#8217; on Sarah Palin, wife, mother, Chuck and Sally&#8217;s daughter, from Wasilla. It&#8217;s not personal. My scrutiny has been of the Alaska political scene and the action of the Governor of the State of Alaska. Nothing different than any other administration, any other time.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing &#8211; Sarah, the person, had a broad base of supporters across Alaska, crossing all party lines, socioeconomics, ethnicities, industries, etc. Alaska has a long history of voting the individual rather than party, and less partisanship to its politics than most places. People were excited and eager for her success.<br />
In the role of a Vice-Presidential nominee, and then Governor, she&#8217;s been losing that support. Borrowing rhetoric from outstates politics, the Governor delivered lessons on partisan politics and blows to her supporters. In action, the Governor has hopelessly squandered the approval of Alaska&#8217;s citizens. From all parties. And she can&#8217;t get it back. </p>
<p>A few genuine &#8216;ooops&#8217; moments along the way are no big deal. But the statement to the New York Times illustrates her mindset and intentions. Probably nothing more than a snotty smart-ass comment made off the cuff, she doesn&#8217;t realize the far-reaching impact of such a statement. Or more likely &#8211; she really doesn&#8217;t care.<br />
It reveals calculated disingenuous responses and behavior. Mrs. Palin knows perfectly well what sponsorships and endorsements are; she didn&#8217;t need any explanations on how that might not be appropriate, she knows. And she always has. </p>
<p>The same thing with the campaign clothing issue. I looked for excuses to give her a pass, but there aren&#8217;t any. I thought that she possibly wasn&#8217;t educated about campaign finance rules and she could be forgiven for that. Any thinking person would have some &#8216;spidey-sense&#8217; and wonder if if it was all okay and appropriate. If you genuinely didn&#8217;t know, you&#8217;d ask. But as an &#8220;experienced&#8221; politician, she had to have known. She not only ran for office, but she was the whistle-blower for someone else&#8217;s ethics.<br />
She didn&#8217;t care. She thought she&#8217;d get away with it.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s not going to own it-she&#8217;s going to keep on being mean about it. To us, her constituents. She&#8217;s got no sympathy for the rules that the rest of us MUST live by, whether we like them or not, or we&#8217;ll lose jobs.</p>
<p>Mrs. Palin, you&#8217;ve betrayed the confidence and loyalty of so many Alaskans. People who supported you on a personal level and because of old-fashioned Alaska connections and relationships that YOU used to your advantage while campaigning &#8211; the Palin family, Todd&#8217;s grandmother, the connection to Dillingham and Homer, commerical fishing, the church and the Native card. We really trusted you, Sarah. In a personal way.You&#8217;ve done nothing to return that honor, and worse, you&#8217;ve done harm.<br />
I think that you forget that you wouldn&#8217;t have been elected Governor without us. </p>
<p>No, it saddens me that you&#8217;re just one more politician with the same old attitude. You are a card-carrying member and continuing the tradition of the &#8220;Corrupt Bastards Club&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: swe123</title>
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		<dc:creator>swe123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo  Hoo....I&#039;m so addicted I just went to the other post and read the news there...the vote wasn&#039;t even close!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woo  Hoo&#8230;.I&#8217;m so addicted I just went to the other post and read the news there&#8230;the vote wasn&#8217;t even close!</p>
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		<title>By: snowbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not Confirmed!</description>
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		<title>By: swe123</title>
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		<dc:creator>swe123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...the suspense is killing me!  What&#039;s going on up there with the AG appointment?</description>
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		<title>By: AlaskaDisasta</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlaskaDisasta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What Wayne Anthony Ross Thinks About Gay Alaskans&quot;.

Much more relevant and much more credible is what gay Alaskans think of little mr. ross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What Wayne Anthony Ross Thinks About Gay Alaskans&#8221;.</p>
<p>Much more relevant and much more credible is what gay Alaskans think of little mr. ross.</p>
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		<title>By: Regi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t supporting homosexuality help keep unwanted children from being born?</description>
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		<title>By: Fish Hawk Road Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fish Hawk Road Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basheert from Arizona Says:
April 16th, 2009 at 9:46 AM

FishHawkRoadJody:
Snakes don’t use smell sorry…they use their tongues as heat seeking prey. They are also all over Costa Rica - you can virtually trip over them. If we’re lucky ….
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Yes, I know they don&#039;t &quot;smell&quot; things...maybe I should have typed, sense, taste, whatever...I had my fill of mojave greens living in the high desert in CA. However, as toxic as Blago and Palin are it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if creatures developed extra attributes immediately simply because those 2 showed up! LOL I have been to Costa Rica many times and yep, tons of snakes, well over 100 types but not many poisonous, somewhere around 17...it&#039;s still a lovely place.

I can barely read ADN anymore. Good grief some of the comments are beyond ugly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basheert from Arizona Says:<br />
April 16th, 2009 at 9:46 AM</p>
<p>FishHawkRoadJody:<br />
Snakes don’t use smell sorry…they use their tongues as heat seeking prey. They are also all over Costa Rica &#8211; you can virtually trip over them. If we’re lucky ….<br />
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<p>Yes, I know they don&#8217;t &#8220;smell&#8221; things&#8230;maybe I should have typed, sense, taste, whatever&#8230;I had my fill of mojave greens living in the high desert in CA. However, as toxic as Blago and Palin are it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if creatures developed extra attributes immediately simply because those 2 showed up! LOL I have been to Costa Rica many times and yep, tons of snakes, well over 100 types but not many poisonous, somewhere around 17&#8230;it&#8217;s still a lovely place.</p>
<p>I can barely read ADN anymore. Good grief some of the comments are beyond ugly!</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@small steps....what a sweet and kind person you are. I love my sis, and if I had to live somewhere where she could be discriminated against or even in danger, I dont know what I would do.

My sister and her partner have the choice here...to openly hold hands.  To do whatever they want.  Their home is in the country, and although it took a little bit of time...the neighbours (who used to peek out their curtains at them) got to know them and now take advantage of all the wonderful things sis has.  Like a huge swimming pool....the neighbour kids love it!

Twice a year she holds a huge gathering with over 200 people.  Some gay...some not.  Its no big deal to anyone.

Anyhow..all I really wanted was to thank you for your kind post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@small steps&#8230;.what a sweet and kind person you are. I love my sis, and if I had to live somewhere where she could be discriminated against or even in danger, I dont know what I would do.</p>
<p>My sister and her partner have the choice here&#8230;to openly hold hands.  To do whatever they want.  Their home is in the country, and although it took a little bit of time&#8230;the neighbours (who used to peek out their curtains at them) got to know them and now take advantage of all the wonderful things sis has.  Like a huge swimming pool&#8230;.the neighbour kids love it!</p>
<p>Twice a year she holds a huge gathering with over 200 people.  Some gay&#8230;some not.  Its no big deal to anyone.</p>
<p>Anyhow..all I really wanted was to thank you for your kind post.</p>
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