OK, this is not for the faint of heart. But it answers the question that was on everyone’s mind as the Legislature deals with the frantic last week of the session, working on budgets, a senate appointment, an attorney general confirmation, and other critical issues.
Yukonbushgrdm: I think you are right. That is why she doesn’t attend the GOP party meetings, but does speak at local Right to Life dinners.
She is going to position herself as a third populist party. SHE is the outsider to both parties. SHE is not going to be an elite. She will go church to church to klan meeting to get her grassroots campaign going.
And if the economy is still broken, well, read It Can’t Happen Here or see A Face in the Crowd. The latter will be especially familiar.
It’s a big risk, to be on Obama to fail, but it is her only chance.
The sad part is,is that the folks in the lower 49 still are under the illusion that Palin has something important to say! Alaskans are finally getting it.
If Sarah Palin believes she’s going to start up a 3rd party and be at the head of it, then she’d better prepare to go down in the same ball of flames as her recent AG reject. It just ain’t gonna happen for her. Given all her baggage, she’s not a viable candidate for POTUS no matter what party she’s a member of.
Judith… trust me when I write that there are more peeps in Alaska who think she’s got something important to say… and there’s fewer of those every day. Us in the Lower 48 are well aware of what a nutball she really is.
So Sarah thinks a woman it would be great to give your child up for adoption- that’s fine if it is white and isn’t handicapped, ie: down syndrome. Good luck finding an adoptive parent for mixed race or down syndrome child. These people just don’t get it.
How about the judgement of people “how could you give your child up?” It sounds like abandonment to them.
I did appreciate what Professor Geezer asked somewhere up around #77 – why would a mother go in front of what is sure to be a national audience and tell a story about thinking of aborting one of her children?
Is she thinking of the child’s feelings, having that made a part of the public record. And yeah, little Trigg may not get it, but her other kids sure would wonder that Mom wanted to abort baby brother. It’s creepy. If I ever contemplated aborting a child I later carried to term, I’d never tell anyone other than my closest confidants. Can you imagine people looking at a kid and whispering, “His mom wanted to abort him”?
It reminded me of a creepy feeling I got seeing an interview of her during the campaign – she was telling a story about deciding whether to accept McCain’s offer, and she said she asked the girls what they though, but didn’t ask Track, because, “He’s off doin’ his thing,” meaning being shipped over to Iraq.
Now, frankly, if my son were going off into danger, I’d hardly use the phrase “off doin’ his thing” to describe it – nor would I dismiss his role in family decision-making.
FWIW, her account of the discussion with the girls about her decision ended with the girls saying, “Mom, go for it!” – odd, I would think that a mother might be concerned with how this might affect her daughters’ lives, rather than looking for them to cheer her on.
She is such an narcissist. She is one of the most openly narcissistic public figures I’ve ever seen. Lots of them are, but most of them are smart enough to pretend not to be.
saurkraut, I agree. We here in the lower 48 don’t think Palin is a viable candidate for office. She is a real phony! After all the glam is gone, there’s nothing but marshmallow brains left. Oh sure, she has hard core followers, but check them out…they are just like her. I have yet to hear her say something important, much less the truth!
To Sarah in South Carolina: I did not mean to upset you.
Oh, Debra! I didn’t mean to come across as upset! Not upset at all–I’ve just been reading so much stuff (especially over at PD, where I’m a regular stalker for new info! lol) about amnios, that I just thought perhaps no one had heard the “other side” of amnios & pro lifers. lol And I’ve been away from my puter all weekend, and only saw your comment this afternoon.
The beautiful thing about the whole deal is that a mom can “choose” whether to have an amnio, or not! I’m sure your SIL’s (am I getting that right?) doctor gave her the “odds” on miscarriage vs. risk of abnormalities, and probably the risks, in her case, were greater of miscarriage than abnormalities, so it makes perfect sense not to choose amnio.
I chose not to with both of my girls–but at that time I had “only” lost 6 babies. The only new info I would have gained at that time (with the girls) is whether they also carry the translocation, or had “normal” (whatever that is!) chromosomes, and thus be able to tell if they will have similar difficulties with pregnancies. (Because with our situation, it’s either gonna work, or it’s not–only time will tell–we either carry to term, or we don’t.) But I can also get that info from a blood test any time in their life, so I chose not to with them.
With my first child, we had just lost 3 babies in a row, and I HAD to know whether to “invest.” With my last, we had just lost 3 in a row, and the last of the three at 20 weeks. I just *couldn’t* sit around again for 20 weeks only to find out we lost another that late–so we did CVS w/ him at 13 weeks. It was an enormous sense of relief to find out that the remainder of my pregnancy *should* be “normal,” and we could go ahead and circle the date on the calendar.
Sorry for another novel! It’s not easy to explain this stuff in 50 words or less! lol I guess the main point is that everyone’s “risk” is really different based on other factors. I just thank God that we have the capability to test for abnormalities at all. If I had gone thru all of my “stuff” without knowing what the problem was, I probably would have jumped off a bridge or something. The grief is unbearable even with the knowledge that it’s out of your control. If I was still under the impression I could do something about it (no test to tell me otherwise)–I’d have been in a padded cell a LONG time ago.
April 18th, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Yukonbushgrdm: I think you are right. That is why she doesn’t attend the GOP party meetings, but does speak at local Right to Life dinners.
She is going to position herself as a third populist party. SHE is the outsider to both parties. SHE is not going to be an elite. She will go church to church to klan meeting to get her grassroots campaign going.
And if the economy is still broken, well, read It Can’t Happen Here or see A Face in the Crowd. The latter will be especially familiar.
It’s a big risk, to be on Obama to fail, but it is her only chance.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:01 PM
The sad part is,is that the folks in the lower 49 still are under the illusion that Palin has something important to say! Alaskans are finally getting it.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:45 PM
If Sarah Palin believes she’s going to start up a 3rd party and be at the head of it, then she’d better prepare to go down in the same ball of flames as her recent AG reject. It just ain’t gonna happen for her. Given all her baggage, she’s not a viable candidate for POTUS no matter what party she’s a member of.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Judith… trust me when I write that there are more peeps in Alaska who think she’s got something important to say… and there’s fewer of those every day. Us in the Lower 48 are well aware of what a nutball she really is.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:25 PM
So Sarah thinks a woman it would be great to give your child up for adoption- that’s fine if it is white and isn’t handicapped, ie: down syndrome. Good luck finding an adoptive parent for mixed race or down syndrome child. These people just don’t get it.
How about the judgement of people “how could you give your child up?” It sounds like abandonment to them.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:53 AM
I did appreciate what Professor Geezer asked somewhere up around #77 – why would a mother go in front of what is sure to be a national audience and tell a story about thinking of aborting one of her children?
Is she thinking of the child’s feelings, having that made a part of the public record. And yeah, little Trigg may not get it, but her other kids sure would wonder that Mom wanted to abort baby brother. It’s creepy. If I ever contemplated aborting a child I later carried to term, I’d never tell anyone other than my closest confidants. Can you imagine people looking at a kid and whispering, “His mom wanted to abort him”?
It reminded me of a creepy feeling I got seeing an interview of her during the campaign – she was telling a story about deciding whether to accept McCain’s offer, and she said she asked the girls what they though, but didn’t ask Track, because, “He’s off doin’ his thing,” meaning being shipped over to Iraq.
Now, frankly, if my son were going off into danger, I’d hardly use the phrase “off doin’ his thing” to describe it – nor would I dismiss his role in family decision-making.
FWIW, her account of the discussion with the girls about her decision ended with the girls saying, “Mom, go for it!” – odd, I would think that a mother might be concerned with how this might affect her daughters’ lives, rather than looking for them to cheer her on.
She is such an narcissist. She is one of the most openly narcissistic public figures I’ve ever seen. Lots of them are, but most of them are smart enough to pretend not to be.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:48 AM
saurkraut, I agree. We here in the lower 48 don’t think Palin is a viable candidate for office. She is a real phony! After all the glam is gone, there’s nothing but marshmallow brains left. Oh sure, she has hard core followers, but check them out…they are just like her. I have yet to hear her say something important, much less the truth!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Debra Says:
April 17th, 2009 at 10:34 PM
To Sarah in South Carolina: I did not mean to upset you.
Oh, Debra! I didn’t mean to come across as upset! Not upset at all–I’ve just been reading so much stuff (especially over at PD, where I’m a regular stalker for new info! lol) about amnios, that I just thought perhaps no one had heard the “other side” of amnios & pro lifers. lol And I’ve been away from my puter all weekend, and only saw your comment this afternoon.
The beautiful thing about the whole deal is that a mom can “choose” whether to have an amnio, or not! I’m sure your SIL’s (am I getting that right?) doctor gave her the “odds” on miscarriage vs. risk of abnormalities, and probably the risks, in her case, were greater of miscarriage than abnormalities, so it makes perfect sense not to choose amnio.
I chose not to with both of my girls–but at that time I had “only” lost 6 babies. The only new info I would have gained at that time (with the girls) is whether they also carry the translocation, or had “normal” (whatever that is!) chromosomes, and thus be able to tell if they will have similar difficulties with pregnancies. (Because with our situation, it’s either gonna work, or it’s not–only time will tell–we either carry to term, or we don’t.) But I can also get that info from a blood test any time in their life, so I chose not to with them.
With my first child, we had just lost 3 babies in a row, and I HAD to know whether to “invest.” With my last, we had just lost 3 in a row, and the last of the three at 20 weeks. I just *couldn’t* sit around again for 20 weeks only to find out we lost another that late–so we did CVS w/ him at 13 weeks. It was an enormous sense of relief to find out that the remainder of my pregnancy *should* be “normal,” and we could go ahead and circle the date on the calendar.
Sorry for another novel! It’s not easy to explain this stuff in 50 words or less! lol I guess the main point is that everyone’s “risk” is really different based on other factors. I just thank God that we have the capability to test for abnormalities at all. If I had gone thru all of my “stuff” without knowing what the problem was, I probably would have jumped off a bridge or something. The grief is unbearable even with the knowledge that it’s out of your control. If I was still under the impression I could do something about it (no test to tell me otherwise)–I’d have been in a padded cell a LONG time ago.
Enjoy those little relatives!