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		<title>By: Bretta</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/05/11/monday-morning-cleavage/#comment-55115</link>
		<dc:creator>Bretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>curiouser Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:21 PM
#31austintx Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 1:01 PM
I have a silly question…….Is there a dress code or policy in some sort of Employee Manual ??
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I don’t think that’s silly. I was wondering the same thing.
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Apparently it&#039;s not silly - I can&#039;t find it and I&#039;m here.</description>
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May 11th, 2009 at 1:21 PM<br />
#31austintx Says:<br />
May 11th, 2009 at 1:01 PM<br />
I have a silly question…….Is there a dress code or policy in some sort of Employee Manual ??<br />
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I don’t think that’s silly. I was wondering the same thing.<br />
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Apparently it&#8217;s not silly &#8211; I can&#8217;t find it and I&#8217;m here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bretta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  austintx Says:
May 11th, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Is this skirt ok ???
http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sarah-palin-hottie.jpg
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It&#039;s for breastfeeding!! 8O</description>
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May 11th, 2009 at 5:56 PM<br />
Is this skirt ok ???<br />
<a href="http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sarah-palin-hottie.jpg">http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sarah-palin-hottie.jpg</a><br />
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It&#8217;s for breastfeeding!! <img src='http://www.themudflats.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8O' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MO Inkslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/05/11/monday-morning-cleavage/#comment-55071</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shucks!  Maybe Sarah should have saved all those RNC clothes and handed them out to the state employees to cover up all the cleavage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shucks!  Maybe Sarah should have saved all those RNC clothes and handed them out to the state employees to cover up all the cleavage.</p>
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		<title>By: AlaskaDad</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/05/11/monday-morning-cleavage/#comment-55052</link>
		<dc:creator>AlaskaDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story has been Dugg @ Digg
(/) no cyber bully&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story has been Dugg @ Digg<br />
(/) no cyber bully&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aussie Blue Sky,
You prove my point.  That one issue would have not cost the complainant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aussie Blue Sky,<br />
You prove my point.  That one issue would have not cost the complainant.</p>
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		<title>By: the problem child</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 11:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Palin Sucks, Salam Pax was a great blog! I&#039;m glad Raed had resurfaced with a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Palin Sucks, Salam Pax was a great blog! I&#8217;m glad Raed had resurfaced with a book.</p>
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		<title>By: PalinSucks</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 06:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Whole World is Annoyed by Sarah Palin

Raed Jarrar just toured Americaland, where he stopped off in Alaska to visit with Sarah Palin. His impressions? He said that her voice was very &quot;annoying in person&quot;. Yep, that sounds about right!
http://ow.ly/6n0R</description>
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<p>Raed Jarrar just toured Americaland, where he stopped off in Alaska to visit with Sarah Palin. His impressions? He said that her voice was very &#8220;annoying in person&#8221;. Yep, that sounds about right!<br />
<a href="http://ow.ly/6n0R">http://ow.ly/6n0R</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 06:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>105 clark Says: 
May 11th, 2009 at 8:29 PM .......&quot;they’ve never been run by women or ethnic minorities, either. add that to traditions for which i have no respect.&quot;
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I agree with you 100% on this (except for the word &quot;never&quot; :&gt;) )

Things are slowly changing but it takes a continued willingness to fight for change, eh? I think that&#039;s why some of the women on this post have expressed dismay that younger women are so willing to sexualize themselves in the workplace nowdays. Older women have fought in the trenches since the 1960&#039;s for women&#039;s equality in the workplace....which included, in no small part, the fight to be viewed as more than a sexual distraction for the male workers, especially in more male-dominated professions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>105 clark Says:<br />
May 11th, 2009 at 8:29 PM &#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;they’ve never been run by women or ethnic minorities, either. add that to traditions for which i have no respect.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>I agree with you 100% on this (except for the word &#8220;never&#8221; :&gt;) )</p>
<p>Things are slowly changing but it takes a continued willingness to fight for change, eh? I think that&#8217;s why some of the women on this post have expressed dismay that younger women are so willing to sexualize themselves in the workplace nowdays. Older women have fought in the trenches since the 1960&#8242;s for women&#8217;s equality in the workplace&#8230;.which included, in no small part, the fight to be viewed as more than a sexual distraction for the male workers, especially in more male-dominated professions.</p>
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		<title>By: Alaska Pi</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@112 SMR -
No, you didn&#039;t miss anything here.
And you are correct about the overall picture.
And it&#039;s important . 

It is important that behavior towards Ms McLeod by this administration be watched carefully and mustn&#039;t be lost in talk or strategy about getting rid of the ghastly gov . 
Outing private communication  with Ms McLeod when it serves the Adminstration&#039;s purpose is worthy of the same contempt I  feel about the Administration refusing to pony up their own professional email for ... how long now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@112 SMR -<br />
No, you didn&#8217;t miss anything here.<br />
And you are correct about the overall picture.<br />
And it&#8217;s important . </p>
<p>It is important that behavior towards Ms McLeod by this administration be watched carefully and mustn&#8217;t be lost in talk or strategy about getting rid of the ghastly gov .<br />
Outing private communication  with Ms McLeod when it serves the Adminstration&#8217;s purpose is worthy of the same contempt I  feel about the Administration refusing to pony up their own professional email for &#8230; how long now?</p>
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		<title>By: SMR</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I miss something here?  I was under the impression that this was NOT a formal complaint filed by Ms. McLeod, but rather emails sent when/as a state employee.  If that is the case then her emails addressing dress-code violations are very very reasonable, and the Nizich/Toomey behaviour is spitty to the 10th power.

If that is not the case, and this is an ethics complaint (which I never got the impression that it was/is), and somehow alleges that the gov is directly or indirectly responsible for the poor wardrobe choices of State gov employees, well, then I&#039;m going to have to say that it&#039;s eye-roll worthy.

But that still does not negate the Toomey/Nizich dastardly behaviour, behaviour that seems worthy of an ethics complaint itself.  To really get steamed about that aspect check out Celtic Diva&#039;s post on this.

If one is an employee and wants to complain about having to sit around in meetings (or next to someone) with their stuff hanging out (cleavage/chest/etc), you meet with a supervisor in person or, if you&#039;ve determined that they are less than credible in relation to taking action on issues, you send an email so that your concerns are voiced and there is a paper trail.  This case seems to me to fall under that umbrella, with the spitefulness of Nizich/TOomey exploiting the situation to the gov&#039;s advantage (or at least making the attempt to spin it to the gov&#039;s advantage).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I miss something here?  I was under the impression that this was NOT a formal complaint filed by Ms. McLeod, but rather emails sent when/as a state employee.  If that is the case then her emails addressing dress-code violations are very very reasonable, and the Nizich/Toomey behaviour is spitty to the 10th power.</p>
<p>If that is not the case, and this is an ethics complaint (which I never got the impression that it was/is), and somehow alleges that the gov is directly or indirectly responsible for the poor wardrobe choices of State gov employees, well, then I&#8217;m going to have to say that it&#8217;s eye-roll worthy.</p>
<p>But that still does not negate the Toomey/Nizich dastardly behaviour, behaviour that seems worthy of an ethics complaint itself.  To really get steamed about that aspect check out Celtic Diva&#8217;s post on this.</p>
<p>If one is an employee and wants to complain about having to sit around in meetings (or next to someone) with their stuff hanging out (cleavage/chest/etc), you meet with a supervisor in person or, if you&#8217;ve determined that they are less than credible in relation to taking action on issues, you send an email so that your concerns are voiced and there is a paper trail.  This case seems to me to fall under that umbrella, with the spitefulness of Nizich/TOomey exploiting the situation to the gov&#8217;s advantage (or at least making the attempt to spin it to the gov&#8217;s advantage).</p>
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