Open Thread
17 05 2009
Another beautiful warm sunny day. The snow is melting fast, and although it remains in the Chugach Mountains, the foothills are almost snow free. You can just see a few patches here and there stubbornly holding on in shady depressions.
Well, it was a long long day, and another one coming. Enjoy the open thread, and remember that it will stay active all day long for any off-topic inspiration that comes your way.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:36 PM
honestyinGov Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:21 PM
# 94
crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
mmboucher Florida Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
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I think I will chill out (and everyone else) When GINO is vacationing at the Greybar hotel!!!
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caligirl…. maybe they don’t realize how difficult it is ‘ to chill out’ today when we are expecting 100 degrees here in the Valley. (Sacto)
I would L O V E to ‘ chill out ‘ today….. not that easy.
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HonestyinGov: wow! I hear ya, 100, yikes! We are hot here for SF was 80!
Its not even summer yet!
Keep cool, Honesty!
It’s in the 90’s here in Palmetto also too!
May 17th, 2009 at 1:37 PM
He has a very good knowledge of various theologians and can discuss them competently, but he always amazes!!! A man with a brain and a soul! I am truly tired of the shallow and vicious people that pass off vacuous thought as victims as being believable in any way other than being manipulative and shallow, or just ignorant. Enough, already.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:37 PM
#69 penny ….I followed the ADN link. I read that article a long time ago but, today, found something funny I had previously missed.
Johnson (SP’s biographer) writes. “As a little girl, Sarah sat through services fidgeting, staring at her shiny shoes and smoothing her skirt.
Can’t you just picture that?! I’m thinkin’ she hasn’t changed much. The Palins attend 4 different churches (one is in Juneau) and aren’t members of any. Also, it’s clear from their tax returns that they don’t tithe.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:39 PM
hey sauerkraut……..did ya get help voting?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
GA Peach
Saw those photoraphs over on Kos some days ago. Just … just, unspeakable horror, and worse, much worse to come. Won’t go into on this site. I think Pres. Obama know this will all come out, but needs to be at a step back. Others on his team know what needs to be done.
Speaking for myself, I am mortified that my government under Tony Blair was complicit in this situation and know that when the American public realises what was done in their name they will feel the same. Apart from the usual 20 percenters of course.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Wow – Mudpups you all are awesome! Caligirl -so sorry you can’t chill out with your temps. I feel your pain regarding GINO and her minions. They make me so ANGRY, and in the words of David Banner “You don’t want to make me angry!!!” ha ha!!! Irishgirl – thanks for the link to Lynnrockets, and LynnRockets thanks for setting up a blog. You crack me up!!! We need a good laugh with GINO and the Rethugs around. Perl89 – thanks for the Obama speech link, and best of luck with your volunteer efforts. So NO – good luck getting out of moderation – I was there once too for ranting about GINO
. Must. watch. my. tongue. Also there too: that suit is a sad case, and true. We were exposed to that reality when applying for the Katie Becket (called TEFRA in Alaska) Waiver for our daughter (born with DS). They said that if her care got too extreme (i.e. we couldn’t handle it at home) then the alternative would be an out-of-state institution because Alaska doesn’t have that for kiddos with special needs. DS has not profoundly affected our dear daughter, and her home is with us, her family, not some institution. But I would never dare judge a family of a child with special needs who made the decision to place their child with an institution. Until I walked in their footseps I have no idea what they have faced. My heart goes out to the families who face those decisions. And Scarah is just awful in her approach to children and families of children with special needs. But if I rant, I will go to purgatory again, must. not. rant.
On another note: I had an awesome 1/2 marathon today – The Marine Corps Historic Half in beautiful Fredericksburg, VA. God bless our men and women in uniform at home and deployed oversees. And God bless their families too!
And, one more thing, Yippee that the filly won the Preakness (spelling?) i think her name is rachel alexandra?
May 17th, 2009 at 1:50 PM
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
I just saw something that REALLY Bugged me! “Palin speaks out”
I won’t link but here is her statement:
I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
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Another mudflatter left the link. Sorry, I’m all over the place today.
By reframing Obama’s abortion views and calling them ‘anti-life’, Palin obnoxiously shuts off debate and the possibility of working together to actually reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
Obama beautifully addressed the issue today in the Notre Dame address. We’ve got to keep abortion legal and safe to protect women’s civil rights, autonomy, freedom, health (apologizing for redundancy but struggling for the right words) while reducing the occurrence of abortion.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:53 PM
#65 BigSlick ….thanks for the Newsweek article. Great interview. I can’t help comparing Obama to SP and laugh imagining how she would answer similar questions. When Obama was asked what he was reading, he named the book and offered a little something about it. Oh, how I wish a reporter had asked SP to describe her favorite parts of the books she has been voraciously reading (per her interview on the book deal).
May 17th, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Curioser@95
You are welcome to the link to Faux, didn’t know wether to post it because it was them, but thought it was funny.
Bill Kristol not only thought she was a good VP pick, if my memory serves me well (it doesn’t usually to be honest), but he had a hand in finding her for McCain. I think he was one of the Alaskan Voyage people who found her along with Bill (always wrong) Morris. I could be wrong though.
I also think he may have changed alliances to Mitt Romney or Bobby Jindal but could also be wrong on that.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:58 PM
If misery is company, given Cheney and daugher, you’ve got it! My heritage, such as it is, is Cornish, Welsh, Scots, and English, and I’m proud of being a mutt. No one that I know of is a 20% yet, but you never know!
May 17th, 2009 at 2:02 PM
# 101
mmboucher Florida Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:36 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
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I would L O V E to ‘ chill out ‘ today….. not that easy.
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HonestyinGov: wow! I hear ya, 100, yikes! We are hot here for SF was 80!
Its not even summer yet!
Keep cool, Honesty!
It’s in the 90’s here in Palmetto also too!
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mmboucher…..
I might prefer my 100 to your 90. You might have it worse…… it’s the ‘ HUMIDITY’ there. Not sure where Palmetto is but I grew up and lived in Broward & Palm Bch for 35 years and it is Brutal !! I didn’t know how bad it was until I moved away. It might cool off to 56-60 at night here, which is comfortable BUT down there it could 75-80 degrees at night (and WITH …..the humidity ! )
Samual Jackson’s line from “Pulp Fiction” applies here…. ” Be COOL” !
May 17th, 2009 at 2:03 PM
lol…… it’s not really true about Dems wanting ALL business controlled by government, regulations happen because abuses happen and the rules are in place to protect all the people.
this is a post by a person on c4pea who is confused about repubs and dems…..so far no response to her.
anne s, May 17, 2009 3:36 PM
Trying to get a grasp of the differences between the Republican party and the Democratic party.. I am running into a widdle issue..
So, it seems Republicans want hands off government in their business sectors? Taxes, small businesses, gun control.. ect?
OK.. sounds reasonable
But then why is there such a push to have Government dictate people’s morals? Abortion/Antiabortion.. Gay Marriages?
So the hands off approach is only to the business sector? But they want the government very hands on when it comes to personal moral issues?
Democrats seem the opposite.. moral decisions are up to the person.. businesses the government will be sticking their noes in
Either way, to me, seem extreme
Id rather have more of a balance.. perhaps that is Independent?
May 17th, 2009 at 2:10 PM
UK Lady Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
GA Peach
Saw those photoraphs over on Kos some days ago. Just … just, unspeakable horror, and worse, much worse to come. Won’t go into on this site. I think Pres. Obama know this will all come out, but needs to be at a step back. Others on his team know what needs to be done.
Speaking for myself, I am mortified that my government under Tony Blair was complicit in this situation and know that when the American public realises what was done in their name they will feel the same. Apart from the usual 20 percenters of course.
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Yes I agree with you, I saw some on kos and was horrified and saddened, I hope the truth comes out and those responsible are dealt with. Cheney especially is one evil…if there is a satan he would be the personification of it.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:16 PM
@ UK Lady
You’re right! Kristol was one of the 3 voyagers (along with Fred Barnes and Michael Gerson – Weekly Standard cruise June 2007) who had lunch at the gov’s mansion with SP and put a lot of effort into promoting her nationally. Dick Morris met up with her after that on a National Review cruise. I’m wondering if the others are finding her less dazzling these days.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:21 PM
curiouser Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:50 PM
By reframing Obama’s abortion views and calling them ‘anti-life’, Palin obnoxiously shuts off debate and the possibility of working together to actually reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
Obama beautifully addressed the issue today in the Notre Dame address. We’ve got to keep abortion legal and safe to protect women’s civil rights, autonomy, freedom, health (apologizing for redundancy but struggling for the right words) while reducing the occurrence of abortion.
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The top paragraph: Yes that’s what makes me so angry her and those “bot”s!
If everyone practiced birthcontrol/safe sex there would be hardly any abortions…what would they do? They couldn’t be divisive and bitch all the time?’ “Palin obnoxiously shuts off debate and the possibility of working together to actually reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.” says it all…totally.
beautifully said!
May 17th, 2009 at 2:24 PM
caught in the tubes….
May 17th, 2009 at 2:31 PM
113 curiouser Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 2:16 PM
@ UK Lady
You’re right! Kristol was one of the 3 voyagers (along with Fred Barnes and Michael Gerson – Weekly Standard cruise June 2007) who had lunch at the gov’s mansion with SP and put a lot of effort into promoting her nationally. Dick Morris met up with her after that on a National Review cruise. I’m wondering if the others are finding her less dazzling these days.
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The whole bunch need to clamor aboard the “S.S. STFU” and sail off into the oblivion that awaits them. sarah and Bachmann can be the ship wenches.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I heard Sarah Palin finally graduated high school. I’m simply atwitter.
May 17th, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Wouldn’t mind putting a bet on that they all wish they’d gone on a Carribean Cruise instead austintx
May 17th, 2009 at 2:52 PM
#115 austintx Says:
The whole bunch need to clamor aboard the “S.S. STFU” and sail off into the oblivion that awaits them. sarah and Bachmann can be the ship wenches.
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LOL…really, I am.
…but, but it was all so preordained, meeting those nationally influential conservative voices and enamoring them and all…surely a sign that god was openin’ a door. And then there was all that expensive PR work to spread the energy expert myth. All falling apart. Trick door.
May 17th, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Here in Arizona, we are about to break the record for consecutive days in May over 100 degrees. We should send some of that up to Eagle to melt that ice!!
May 17th, 2009 at 3:32 PM
You know how male teenagers wear their pants about to fall off ?? Well , in Flint , Michigan , it’s a crime. Here is the diagram that the police carry to enforce the law.
http://freep.com/uploads/images/2008/07/saggychart0709.jpg
May 17th, 2009 at 4:01 PM
crystalwolf……I’m in the doghouse with ya. woof and howlin
What He’s Learned
A Conversation with Barack Obama
http://www.newsweek.com/id/197891/page/1
May 17th, 2009 at 4:15 PM
smallsteps……lol, yes, must contain rants, tubes are no fun. I “think” the filter can be fooled if it’s a short post? here’s a letter to the editor by Andree.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/letters/story/798110.html
May 17th, 2009 at 4:28 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30786730
This is an article about conservatives getting their arguements together to try to block whoever PO picks for the SC – pretty much soley based on the abortion issue.
This drives me crazy. Do these people not realize that they are being used by the Republican party?! If Roe v Wade was going to be overturned, it would have happened while W was pres. They vote on just this one issue and ignore everything else. Don’t they get it? Republicans don’t want abortion to be illegal any more than democrats do, they just let the Dems take the rap!
And why are they all for the death penalty? Did God say it’s ok to kill people once they’ve lived for a few years and I missed it? They seem to be pretty hot for war too. And they certainly don’t want to pay to take care of those poor children once they’re here! Ugh.
Sorry for the rant – sometimes the hypocrisy just overwhelms me…
May 17th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
okay, lol……someone needs to fact check this……from Palin, btw….she has “favorites” when it comes to grandpas.
“My favorite grandpa, Clem James Sheeran, was Catholic. Irish to the core, his favorite place (other than church) was Notre Dame. I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:19 PM
111 honestyinGov Says: You are right about the humidity except there is a nice breeze today and lower humidity. Palmetto is just south of Tampa. I came from upstate NY, it took some getting used to the heat, but now I would freeze back home.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:23 PM
mmboucher florida,
Umm, is your background by any chance Canadian/ French Canadian?
May 17th, 2009 at 5:33 PM
126 Say NO to Palin in Politics Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
okay, lol……someone needs to fact check this……from Palin, btw….she has “favorites” when it comes to grandpas.
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Thanks for pointing that out. Does this indicate she might have a favorite parent? Favorite child?
May 17th, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Say NO to Palin in Politics Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
okay, lol……someone needs to fact check this……from Palin, btw….she has “favorites” when it comes to grandpas.
“My favorite grandpa, Clem James Sheeran, was Catholic. Irish to the core, his favorite place (other than church) was Notre Dame. I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ she covers all the bases doesn’t she. He lived in Douglas Washington, a long way from South Bend Indiana. Personally, I think it’s just more BS.
May 17th, 2009 at 5:56 PM
@pvazwindy
she covers all the bases doesn’t she. He lived in Douglas Washington, a long way from South Bend Indiana. Personally, I think it’s just more BS.
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Me too. She’s a whore for media coverage.
May 17th, 2009 at 6:02 PM
128 the problem child Says:
No my backround is I’m a Vermonter!
May 17th, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Cool mmboucher! I’m always trying to track down those erstwhile Canucks. If Boucher is your last name, it’s pretty common here.
May 17th, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I wonder what SP would say about her favorite grandfather Clem being the main plaintiff in a class action lawsuit, suing General Electric for increased pension benefits and losing (if I’m reading correctly) the case in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/593/593.F2d.93.77-2869.html
May 17th, 2009 at 7:11 PM
134 curiouser Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I wonder what SP would say about her favorite grandfather Clem being the main plaintiff in a class action lawsuit, suing General Electric for increased pension benefits and losing (if I’m reading correctly) the case in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/593/593.F2d.93.77-2869.html
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Great find !! I e-mailed the link to an attorney to ’splain to me. He is a busy guy , hopefully he can respond. I’ll say something if he does. Grifter Gramps , huh ??
May 17th, 2009 at 8:00 PM
#135 austintx Says:
Great find !! I e-mailed the link to an attorney to ’splain to me. He is a busy guy , hopefully he can respond. I’ll say something if he does. Grifter Gramps , huh ??
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Hopin’ your attorney friend has time. Grifter Gramps….LOL
May 17th, 2009 at 8:21 PM
austintx #122 – what is up with the kids wearing their pants this way? I don’t think they should go to jail but I’ll tell you it is driving me nuts. I would like to slap them silly. It is a big deal here and I don’t get it. Is this cool all over the country? I fear I am out of touch and have to face my age.
More important things going on here but this is a pet peeve so had to get it out of my system. Carry on and thank you (o:
May 17th, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Curiouser – loved the “trick door” comment, but disagree about “Grifter Gramps.” It sounds like he was a working man trying to get what he felt was due him (and 1589 others) after GE decided that they would not increase the pension of prior “vestees.” I don’t blame the class action filers for seeking redress if they felt the original pension plan would have covered them if the plant had not been closed. I think the court made the correct decision, but it was worth a try for them to make their case. So, not a grifter, in my opinion, but a working stiff like you and me (except I’m retired too).
May 17th, 2009 at 8:33 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
I didn’t see where anyone else had published this link. They have an interactive map up giving stess test indicators for all counties in the US.
I keep reading about how much better the AK economy is than the rest of the country given the unemployment figures cited.
May 17th, 2009 at 8:39 PM
In too much of a hurry, the last sentence should have read…how can this be, given the unemployment figures cited?
May 17th, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I thought he would go for the concept of choice for all people. Whatever.
May 17th, 2009 at 8:54 PM
It’s a choice. Every where and everytime.
it is the Law of the Country of the US.
May 17th, 2009 at 9:23 PM
None is pro-abotion.
We are pro-choice
May 17th, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Physicsmom….Thanks for the acknowledgement on the ‘trick door’ comment.
The grifter comment was meant in fun. The lawsuit just seems ironic given the conservative GOP stance in union vs management issues.
Playing devil’s advocate, imagine a reverse situation with reduced benefits put in place. Those with greater vested benefits wouldn’t ask to be included. Or, say AK state employee benefits were increased for future retirees and current retirees sued the state to be included. I suspect Palin would fight them tooth and nail. The state has a limited budget and couldn’t cover the costs of raising benefits for a larger group. The current retirees knew what their benefits would be and should have planned accordingly… one of those ‘tough luck’ situations. Now, I’m truly not sure if this speculation makes any sense and there’s a big possibility that I didn’t understand the lawsuit, just speculating…just for fun.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:20 AM
137 michigander Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 8:21 PM
austintx #122 – what is up with the kids wearing their pants this way? I don’t think they should go to jail but I’ll tell you it is driving me nuts. I would like to slap them silly. It is a big deal here and I don’t get it. Is this cool all over the country? I fear I am out of touch and have to face my age.
More important things going on here but this is a pet peeve so had to get it out of my system. Carry on and thank you (o:
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I know…………it was open thread……..I saw it ……..just being a yahoo.