Open Thread
Another beautiful warm sunny day. The snow is melting fast, and although it remains in the Chugach Mountains, the foothills are almost snow free. You can just see a few patches here and there stubbornly holding on in shady depressions.
Well, it was a long long day, and another one coming. Enjoy the open thread, and remember that it will stay active all day long for any off-topic inspiration that comes your way.
Good Morning Mud puppies
Morning C. Rock.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Presidential-Proclamation-Armed-Forces-Day-2009/
I’m always day late and at least $20 short. I don’t remember seeing anything posted yesterday about it being Armed Forces Day. I just wanted to send a big thank you to all those currently serving and to those who served in the past.
These are truly the men and women who not only talk the talk, but truly walk the walk. Thank you for your service. We honor you each and everyday.
Forgot…good morning, good morning, the best to you each morning!
AKM is in 1ST PLACE — ahead of Kincaid — in the Netroots Nation Scholarship competition!!!!
But it looks like the voting is still going on, so maybe AKM won’t know until June — ??
We need to keep this voting going !!!
Tomorrow is Sherry Johnston’s court date. Wonder what juicy stories we will find out.
C. Rock – Akm put this on the open thread yesterday………
154 akmuckraker Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 2:09 PM
This post moved to open thread by AKM
Originall posted by Penny
OT Warning:
From People online:
“Sherry Johnston, the troubled mother of Levi Johnston, the ex-fiancé of Bristol Palin, has been granted a short reprieve to consider her options.
An Alaskan judge Friday postponed her May 18 jury trial on felony charges for allegedly selling OxyContin. Instead, the judge, Eric Smith, scheduled a May 21 hearing at which Johnston, 42, will have the opportunity to discuss her case with a prosecutor and judge and consider changing her plea.
Johnston had previously pleaded not guilty to charges resulting from a December 2008 arrest for allegedly pedalling the prescription drug in a Wasilla shopping center parking lot. Johnston later told PEOPLE she became addicted to the painkiller after taking it years ago to treat pain from a hysterectomy and several subsequent surgeries.
Johnston’s attorney, Rex Butler, did not return calls Friday. Messages left at the district attorney’s office in Palmer, Alaska, were also not returned.
Johnston’s son, Levi, 18, recently claimed in TV interview that tensions with Bristol Palin and her family have prevented him from spending quality time with the estranged pair’s infant son, Tripp. Meanwhile, Bristol Palin, 19, has finished high shool and graduated with classmates in Wasilla on May 14.”
Things that make you go hummmmm…
yukonbushgrma – Good morning. I have not seen a lot of regulars on the voting……..hopefully they’ll come out tonite and on Monday.
Thanks austintx , I missed that post. I agree hummmmmmm….
Yeah – pleading not guilty means a trial. Signing a plea agreement means they can avoid a trial {oh the drama} and “close the book”.
I’m glad for all concerned that Tripp can spend time with his whole family. I never even met anyone in my dad’s family, and I only met my maternal grandmother once before she died.
Maybe you true legal eagles can clarify what the People article is saying:
“An Alaskan judge Friday postponed her May 18 jury trial on felony charges for allegedly selling OxyContin. Instead, the judge, Eric Smith, scheduled a May 21 hearing at which Johnston, 42, will have the opportunity to discuss her case with a prosecutor and judge and consider changing her plea.”
So Sherri no longer faces a jury trial? She will now “cop” to a lesser charge in an intimate setting in the DA’s office? No harm, no foul? Were the original charges over the top, just to get to this point down the road? Am I watching too many Law and Order episodes?
Probably more curious, why was this first reported in a gossip magazine, and not the Alaskan newspapers? I know ADN is impossibly biased, but wouldn’t some reporter have learned about this development? And why this sudden turn around? Keep the Johnstons quiet with the threat of their mother’s incarceration until the Palin’s, with the threat of the ugly truth about to come out, are ready to hammer out a deal?
As with all things Palin, the rules just don’t seem to apply.
penny Says:
Maybe you true legal eagles can clarify what the People article is saying:
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I’m definitely not a legal eagle but I remember reading recently that they pretty much threw the book at her. Apparently that’s unusual for a first offence.
IMHO – Rex Butler has ‘em by the short hairs. Remember , there was the one arresting cop who said that they had to wait until “after the election” to do the bust. There is a lot of dirt that the prosecutor does not want to see in an open courtroom. Rex’s witness list will be a mile long. Sherry is guilty , but there is a ton of potential collateral damage here.
@ yukonbushgrma, how are things going? Can you see your house yet?
The voting goes on until Jun 15. The decisions are announced Jun 19.
I voted late last night and thanked her for keeping us all informed in a very upbeat way.
AKM is up to 391 in the voting right now. Kind of reminds me of the filly Rachel Alexandra in the Preakness.
Good morning, fellow Mudpuppies.
Looks like Rumsfeld’s making the news.
http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_9217
Ruh ro!! The sidebars disappeared again on the main page. Is someone trying to hack this site?
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Confuzzle Says:
May 16th, 2009 at 9:15 PM
http://www.nga.org/portal/site/nga/menuitem.6c9a8a9ebc6ae07eee28aca9501010a0/?vgnextoid=3ef7315eff9e7110VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD&vgnextchannel=4b18f074f0d9ff00VgnVCM1000001a01010aRCRD
here’s the link for the photo. look at the group photo towards bottom of page, she’s in the front row on the left. NOT pregnant!
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NY Dem Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 6:44 AM
She is definitely NOT 7 months pregnant in that photo !
Look at Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano next to her – they are both holding their hands the exact same way, so, if Palin is 7 months pregnant, then so is Napolitano !
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WHEN is all this going to come out in the MSM ? It will be the final nail if it ever does !
Great find on the picture. I saved it to my pictures and increased the size. She certainly doesn’t look like any 7 mos. pregnant woman to me. And it certainly is a good question why hasn’t this come out?
GA Peach – thanks for the link to the Rumsfeld article. I was particularly taken with the following, which sounds an awfully lot like SP would think:
“Wat Rumsfeld was most effective in doing,” says a former senior White House official, “was not so much undermining a decision that had yet to be made as finding every way possible to delay the implementation of a decision that had been made and that he didn’t like.” At meetings, he’d throw up every obstacle he could. “Rumsfeld would say, ‘Golly, we haven’t had time to read all of these documents! I mean, this is radical change!’ ” the official adds. “And then, if you suggested that maybe he should’ve read all the documents when everyone first got them a week ago, he’d say: ‘Well! I’ve been all over the world since then! What have you been doing?’ ”
Ah, yes, it’s the old “It’s never my fault” syndrome.
Please don’t take offence, none intended at all, but we try very hard to discourage pregnancy theories on this site.
391 votes
GA Peach
The Kos peeps are disgusted with Rummy as well. He held choppers back that could have saved lives in N Orleans! What an ar$e!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/17/732410/-Rumsfeld-kept-rescue-choppers-from-KatrinaTurf-War
@tigerwine, it just blows my mind that these people were in power. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at the ugliness that continues to seep out, but I can’t help but think that it surely must pi$$ God off that they used Him to further their atrocious behavior.
Thanks GA Peach, aka … . for the article on Rumsfield. Very interesting background detail on the man, some of his personality flaws and the unfortunate effects to the country of them. Rumsfeld’s actions still do not relieve Bush from the responsibility for allowing Rumsfeld to continue on. Bush, for all his bluster, did not have the internal strength to back it up.
@Carol.Seattle, I’m starting to believe that Bush, et al, were just Cheney’s puppets, and what a scary, paranoid person he is. I hope that he will continue to open up on the airwaves and show the whole world what he’s really made of.
And Rummy opened his daily breifing to the WH with biblical quotes. I wonder who first covinced Dubhya that his Presidency was ordained by God?
At least Rummy apparently fed that delusion with his carefully chosed quotes.
@UKLady, that just makes me sick. I have friends in Bay St. Louis, which was damn near destroyed. For Rumsfeld to deny help because it would ‘create “unity of command” issues’ is unforgivable. The President is THE Commander-in-Chief – where are the “command issues” when he commands?
Good morning, all. Here is something on a lighter note. I’ve been over at Youtube reviewing the clips from yesterday’s Britain’s Got Talent, and I now have a new favorite. She’s probably not a strong enough contender to beat Susan Boyle or Jamie Pugh, but ten-year-old Natalie Okri is sure to win some hearts. She already has mine!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9hU5JFo4iU&feature=related
Some people have to “make up stories & lies” for the queen!
from the Juneau Empire:
http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/051709/loc_440931737.shtml
Anyone else having a problem with posts further down the page (after JJ dinner post) appearing completely “justified” from side to side– ie. text is spreading out into the very edges of the white space??
WOW! My book title made it to the Ear – Winkin’, Blinkin’ and Todd (they also said it was one of the ‘least mean’). Not surprising, I don’t have a mean bone in my body.
http://www.adn.com/news/politics/alaska_ear/story/798363.html
However, if I were sarah, I’d wait to laugh on my way to the bank. The book’s still just a figment of her imagination.
Bea,
I’m having the same problem!
In today’s NYT, check out Frank Rich’s Op-Ed column. He’s discussing the GQ article, referencing other resources and incidents, some very recent, and calling for more action by Obama’s administration in opening the whole thing up to light.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/opinion/17rich-5.html?th&emc=th
I just finished watching This morning with George S.
The first two guests, Senators Kyle (R) and Webb (D) had a GITMO discussion. When asked question they gave an answer. George was up on the facts though and in BOTH of their cases he had ‘exact’ dates and comments that seemed to contradict what they now said….??? Lots of stammering and trying to explain what they NOW said. Flip-flops for everyone… even Sen. Webb. Rather than be supportive of Obama he seems to be talking to people in his own State because there may be backlash about having detainees in his State.
Second group on had James Carville… always a ‘lively discussion’. Covered many political subjects BUT for the GOP they had Cheney’s daughter on the Panel…. ugghhh. Hard to talk facts and speak honestly on the subject with her on the panel George. Her ‘ Daddy’… can do no wrong.
Have to read Jason Linkins (Huffpo) opinion on the Talk shows this morning. Always good for a little sarcasm, humor and snark.
GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble@35
How about this from ADN?
-Ear’s favorite line from Sarah is how she’s not going to tell us how much money they’re giving her because it will “distract” us.
Yeah, distract us from giving our hard earned money to the poor baby’s lawsuit fund!
Palinbots in action? Yikes. These lunatics are worse than sick.
http://juneauempire.com/stories/051709/loc_440931737.shtml
Wildlife animal lover’s will enjoy this video.
Deer for Breakfast in Texas.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/316898/deer_for_breakfast_in_texas/
35 GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramble Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 7:59 AM
WOW! My book title made it to the Ear – Winkin’, Blinkin’ and Todd (they also said it was one of the ‘least mean’). Not surprising, I don’t have a mean bone in my body.
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GA Peach…. had to check it out just to see what her ‘ angle ‘ would be. Interesting…. she listed the Nolan woman AND referenced to the website she has. No mention of where she got her other info for her story and all the book names…? Why the double standard ‘Ear’…. and in the same article no less.
There are no ‘rules or standards’ though… they just make it up as they go.
bea and irish girl. me too…..no. now it is fixed and the letters are easier to read.
top o’the morning to ya alls.
that mountain looks like a manadnock… and just about as cold.
warm and breezy here, but no blue sky yet.
12 penny Says: May 17th, 2009 at 5:43 AM
Maybe you true legal eagles can clarify what the People article is saying:
“An Alaskan judge Friday postponed her May 18 jury trial on felony charges for allegedly selling OxyContin. Instead, the judge, Eric Smith, scheduled a May 21 hearing at which Johnston, 42, will have the opportunity to discuss her case with a prosecutor and judge and consider changing her plea.”
So Sherri no longer faces a jury trial? She will now “cop” to a lesser charge in an intimate setting in the DA’s office? No harm, no foul? Were the original charges over the top, just to get to this point down the road? Am I watching too many Law and Order episodes?
Probably more curious, why was this first reported in a gossip magazine, and not the Alaskan newspapers? I know ADN is impossibly biased, but wouldn’t some reporter have learned about this development? And why this sudden turn around? Keep the Johnstons quiet with the threat of their mother’s incarceration until the Palin’s, with the threat of the ugly truth about to come out, are ready to hammer out a deal?”
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Nothing all that unusual.
Could simply be a pretrial conference. All charges could be kept or some could be dropped. Some charges probably will be dropped as over-charging seems to be present, and fewer charges will allow the Court to focus on the pertinent ones.
Nothing nefarious at all.
Would not be surprised if she pleads guilty to something in exchange for more serious charges being dropped. And the Court will probably push for such as a trial will be a media circus.
Speaking of “shady depressions” (AKM’s blog entry on the snow remaining on the Chugach Mountains)…
…some C4P lurker by the name of I A Crowther apparently spent part of yesterday visiting all the progressive blogs, including here, and the ADN, then reported back to C4P with a blog entry full of insults and innuendo for their foes taking a stand on cyber-bullying, ethical behavior and cleavage — and compliments to the “barbarians” who are “badass” and “good people” (how’s THAT for hypocrisy?).
I’m not linking there, because it’s not worth your time (like NewsHounds says about Faux News, I read C4P this morning so you don’t have to!), but rest assured, their twisted point of view of politics and their idol haven’t changed.
Lemonade, anyone? I understand Piper Palin is continuing to be a traffic hazard outside the Governor’s Mansion.
No, not worth it. I shake my head as the barbarians go further over the edge. I try not to send them too much traffic. AKM
Top of the morning to you too Sauerkrat. Tis a soft day here in Ireland — that means it is ****** pouring rain. Arghhhhh
HonestyinGov,
That struck me too. No mention of the source of the book titles.
@Big Pete
I bet she got less than she wanted, with more strings attached. I also bet that defense fund is going to need to get a whole lot bigger in the months to come.
@honestyinGov
Well, they are owned by McLachy, which explains a lot. When I read on their (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/) homepage “Truth to Power” and “Trusted Voices”, it kind of reminds me of something my ole’ boss used to tell me, “if they have to tell you they’re a Christian, they’re probably not”.
Have you all seen this?
But wait…there’s more!!!!! Sourcewatch has an interesting profile of Mr. Evans and his “specialties” (emphasis mine):
“Randy Evans is probably best known nationally for his representation of former Speaker Newt Gingrich against ethics complaints made with the Committee on Standards in the United States House of Representatives. In 1996, then Speaker Newt Gingrich tapped Mr. Evans to lead his defense against ethics complaints when issues arose concerning a letter prepared by Gingrich’s existing counsel. Subsequently, Mr. Evans negotiated an agreement that permitted Mr. Gingrich to remain as Speaker. In 1997, Mr. Evans crafted the ‘Dole loan agreement’” — (re $300,000 loan from former Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole) — “for the payment of a portion of the cost assessment made as a part of the ethics agreement. Since then, he has added to Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, former House GOP Chairman J.C. Watts, as well as a number of other United States Senators and Congressmen as client.”
http://divasblueoasis.com/diary/617/governor-palin-hires-the-biggest-gun-yet
GA Peach
Thanks for GQ article – interesting insights into Rumsfeld. The following paragraph made me *snort* though
Two years later, however, Townsend had received a promotion—to assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism—yet was still unable to command Rumsfeld’s respect. In the midst of Hurricane Rita, Townsend learned that Texas governor Rick Perry had signaled his willingness to cede control of the National Guard to the federal government. She called Rumsfeld’s aide and was told, “The secretary and Mrs. Rumsfeld are at an event.”
This would be the same Rick Perry who is toying with the idea of seceding? That big girls blouse!
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mo Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 8:11 AM
Palinbots in action? Yikes. These lunatics are worse than sick.
http://juneauempire.com/stories/051709/loc_440931737.shtml
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Thanks for the link mo. I read the story and the timeline of events show that this was clearly no devious effort on the part of Toma. He had made comments last month… and had nothing to do with Palin. It was “Palin’s remarks” and her over the top and perceived idea that she was being a ‘victim’ (again) that made the story into what it was. Palin created the story by responding with her snarky comments.
The Juneau Empire when they started getting slammed must have been scratching their heads.. WT*..? They had to actually do some research (hear that ADN….?) to figure out how and why this whole brouhaha got created.
I would say they don’t have much ‘respect’ for a certain Palin Fan website. The obvious is now exposed. As for Freelancer Warner Todd Huston…. way to get your ‘facts’ straight. I looked him up on Google. I won’t give him any links here. It says he is a staff writer for the New Media Alliance. Other Google links link him to words like ‘conservative underground’ and ‘conservative articles’. He might have even gotten a direct email from that ‘certain website’… who knows.
It looks like Warner Huston started the ‘spin story’ and got it started.
Credibility gone.
Geoffrey Dunn of HP has a great article on Fino and stimulus money, he gives mudflats a great headsup! In the coment section he tell someone he would believe mudflats before anything out of palins firm.
Sorry, Gino
While checking out the ear story… I read what else they had for political news.
ADN-
UPDATE — I just spoke to Palin spokeswoman Meg Stapleton, who said the report that Evans is coming to work for Palin is wrong.
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Last week-from political blogger Jim Galloway of the Atlanta Journal Constitution
This today from political blogger Jim Galloway of the Atlanta Journal Constitution, reporting from the Georgia Republican state convention:
This morning at breakfast, state GOP chairman Sue Everhart formally announced the end of Randy Evans’ tenure as the party’s legal counsel.
Evans was leaving her for Sarah Palin, she said.
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SOMEONE does not have their Facts straight….or is lying..? Hmmm…
Who is wearing the Flip-Flops here…?
I posted this over on the forum earlier.
Geoffrey Dunn has a very good article in the Huff Po charting all Palin’s flip-flopping regarding the stimulus.
[quote]Palin has until May 25 to sign or veto a bill approving the funds. If she vetoes the $930.7 million stimulus package, or any portion of it, she will risk further angering Alaska constituents, as her approval numbers have been in serious freefall since she returned from the campaign trail last November. If she votes to accept the entire package, it will be viewed as a final cave-in to her original opposition and will carve away her support among the conservative base in the national Republican Party.
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He also quotes Palin verbatim at the news conference she gave in April, and there is a great shout out for Mudflats!
[quote]In April, Palin held one of her bizarre, unscripted news conferences (where her body language screamed that she would rather be somewhere else), and as the delightful Alaska blog Mudflats reported, Palin spouted the same economic gobbledygook that she introduced to the American electorate during her infamous interview with Katie Couric:
“We’re gonna consider how to manage the public’s expectation desiring the lawmakers and the public acknowledge these are short-term temporary funds that should not lead to government growth two years from now when the dollars are gone, and we will…we will consider on a case by case basis whether the dollars need to be applied for or the dollars that are in the budget today could or should be vetoed. It’s going to be a long process still in deciding what to do with the dollars.”
Yes, folks, that is a direct quote. [/quote] ;D
In the comments section someone responds disparagingly about Mudflats and this is Dunn’s response.
[quote]Agreed about Mudflats. And it was a Huffpo commentator on one of my posts (“meede”) who turned me on to Mudflats last fall. So I am eternally grateful. And absolutely right that Palin doesn’t pen her own press releases and Facebook comments or anything else. And she won’t be “writing” her book, of course; but I’ll be writing mine, which, since some asked, the sooner I get it done, the sooner it will get out, so back to it.
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Apparently, he is writing a book about Palin.
Anway, the article and comments are worth a read!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/stimulus-interruptus-pali_b_204293.html
Sorry, that maybe was a bit too long. I should have just posted the link.
I just wanted to share what came over my home page for “today’s quote”:
“Unprovided with original learning, unformed in the habits of thinking, unskilled in the arts of composition, I resolved to write a book.”
– Edward Gibbon
(This is the only thing SP and Edward Gibbon (1737 – 1794) have in common-Politics and a book deal. He was an English historian and Member of Parliament. His most important work: The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire–a little something our SP has never laid eyes on, no doubt)
SP’s book deal says a great deal about the “decline and fall” of what passes for a public servant now days.
I was wondering when Rummy would be making his appearance in this mess…
http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_9217
And he shall be judged indeed.
Sorry to link to a Faux Spews discussion folks, but they are discussing the future of GINO, Bill Kristol looks a little green in the gills in total CYA mode
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=5113221&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/
Just to set the record straight, as I reread my post above, it looks as if Dunn agree’s with the disparaging remark about Mudflats. He didn’t!!!
agrees
Rumsfeld makes me sick. No wonder the rest of the world hates America.
Hillsiders get a lot less summer up there.
For lynnrockets fans
http://lynnrockets.wordpress.com/
If the Bush years made you sick, have a read of this interview of President Obama in NewsWeek.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/197891/page/1
He’s definitely the cure to what was ailing the US.
lynnrockets!!!! way to go. thought you didn’t know nuthin ’bout no computers. glad for you.your songs are great…..b
IrishGirl…. I left you a comment on the JJDinner post….at the end…
According to this story in the Boston Herald, GINO personally sent her an email to comment on President Obamas speech at Notre Dame.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1172807
I thought it was interesting that she worked it into the story that her Grandfather was a ‘strong catholic’… (BTW : is Newt a Strong Catholic.. in her eyes..) and she seems to be pandering or trying to make herself relevant to a situation where she can get her name mentioned.
If Grandpa was a ‘strong Catholic’… why isn’t Sarah…. Hmmm..?
And what is her Faith. Would her newfound Catholic friends approve of Her ‘paling around with ‘ Witch Doctors. Maybe it is just/merely a NEW one-way relationship with the Catholics… for political reasons only. Ya… think!
Aren’t bible thumping true Christians supposed to attend church, regularly?
(Im a Christian and havent been in many years and probably won’t go back but it is in my heart.. I am not out judging everyone and trying to cram God down people’s throats)
S.P. and her broad don’t even attend church… regularly
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/518514.html
Palin doesn’t attend his church that often, Keller said — he sees her maybe a half dozen times a year.
I ran across another article months ago, not sure where I found it or would post but S.P. told an interviewer her family doesn’t attend church reglarly anymore now that everyone is older and has so much going on (guessing at the exact wording)
Just another case of .. she’s a religious zealot with the tongue.. not actions
Has anyone noticed that the “after JJ dinner” post disappeared???
Beautiful picture AKM…Have a great day Mudpupps..:))
The Prez Rocks!!!
Just watched his Notre Dame commencement speech! Brilliant!!
UK Lady,
So did I. A breath of fresh air from others heard.
rishgirl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 10:13 AM
For lynnrockets fans
http://lynnrockets.wordpress.com/
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Thanks for that!!! We ♥ LynnRocketts!!!!
mwThatOne.. Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 10:41 AM
IrishGirl…. I left you a comment on the JJDinner post….at the end…
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that whole post went Poof???Gone???
It is a little tough at 55 on roller-blades going up North Valley Way against the wind. But after the turn around and five strides later and you are fairly flying down the road the toil of moments ago disappears. The glory days of your youth explode in your mind. Clear blue sky and mountain peaks on the horizon as far as I can see everything seems to be a part of me. That is how I do church……It is odd how one peoples’ God is another peoples’ Satan. I guess it goes without saying that Heaven and Hell are both the same place. I tried to talk to God once, It is all in your head he said, it is not me you need, no no no it is not me you are looking for. By the way I am tired of being everyone’s excuse for everything. I pretty much leave it at that.
@Penny
I am not out judging everyone and trying to cram God down people’s throats)
S.P. and her broad don’t even attend church… regularly
Just another case of .. she’s a religious zealot with the tongue.. not actions
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EXACTLY! These types need to look at themselves in the mirror…they would gain more respect IF they would practice what they preach! STOP judging others as being too stupid to notice the absurdity and hypocrisy…this makes YOU look less than (not you Penny) … not us! You’ll NEVER win friends and influence people with this ignorant, backward, confrontational attitude!!! …and I thank you for it, b/c that’s how we can tell the difference.
crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 11:35 AM
mwThatOne.. Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 10:41 AM
IrishGirl…. I left you a comment on the JJDinner post….at the end…
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that whole post went Poof???Gone???
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Its back now?
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Am I Palinized????
I needed to find out why it was messing up the sidebar. All fixed and back now. Sorry about that! AKM
AKM….?
(my post #54)
I hope you and Celtic Diva are on top of what the REAL story is behind the Mr. Evans hiring/NOT hiring for Palin. ADN has almost become a mouthpiece for GINO like Meg…. so right off the bat I would give the Georgia story a little more credibility at this point.
Something definitely ‘smells’ fishy….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/17/obama-notre-dame-speech-f_n_204387.html
Obama’s speech to the 2009 graduating class at Notre Dame. I encourage all of you to read it. I don’t care if Obama uses a teleprompter or not…the man surely talks to the mind and the heart. It’s a heck of a speech (I think)!
I think we would all be better off, if we follow his advice and try to find common ground to build upon when trying to resolve our differences and to treat each other with respect.
One of the things I like about Mudflats is there is very little name calling even of those we disagree with.
On a personal note, been trying (not real hard, tho) to find something to do since I retired. I just finished checking out the USServices website and found a wildlife rehabilitation center that needs volunteers. I didn’t even know my hometown had such a center, but I will be calling them tomorrow. Wish me luck…
I just saw something that REALLY Bugged me! “Palin speaks out”
I won’t link but here is her statement:
I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
As we learned today, our nation is more pro-life than ever before; it is a very important time to strengthen the message that every baby is created for good purpose and has the potential to make this world a better place.”
- GOVERNOR SARAH PALIN
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WTF do we care what GINO thinks anyway??? What relevance is she??? She is nothing! What is she opening her YOB????
Who the hell does she think she is???? So she was VP candidate who LOST!
Everyday her and her stupid minions piss me off more and more! She and them need to STFU!!!!!
Palinize
When someone answers a question without any form of intelligence or foresight. In an attempt to divert from giving a correct answer and in the process sounding unintelligible.
palinize
To avoid giving any substantial answer to a factual question, by means of cobbling together meaningless platitudes; to attempt to fool the listeners and distract their attention by pandering to their prejudices and using one’s charm or attractiveness. Inspired by the distinctive style of Alaska governor and former VP candidate Sarah Palin.
Palinize
1. The act of firing people who divorce your family members.
2. To use your publicly elected powers for evil.
3. The ability of being able to point out Real America from Fake America
Irishgirl,
Dunn – A book being written –wonder will he be sharing with AKM??
another shoutout to Mudflats from Mr. Dunn at HuffPo:
responding to a palinista: “And your cheap shot at The Mudflats is equally pathetic. I’d take the word of The Mudflats any day over what comes out of the governor’s office.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/stimulus-interruptus-pali_b_204293.html
(second from the beginning comments page)
According to the HuffPo, there were approximately 300 anti-abortion at Notre Dame today. That’s a far cry from the 20,000 predicted by Michelle Malkin and those on the right. I guess the same person who counted teabaggers, made the right’s estimate on this one also.
I just read PO speech from the link above. I am glad he addressed the controversy head on, however, when people like GINO already putting her .02 in…I’m wondering how the People of NO, right wingers will spin it…
I hope there was a video made of this speech. It was a great speech with lots of food for thought for the grads.
I’m am just so sick of these “NO” people! Everything good is turned to bad…anyone remember “Debbie downer” on SNL?
That’s how I feel they are…
Did “we” know Scarah had a lawsuit filed against her in 2007 by a mother of an autistic child? I sure didn’t! How awful for this family to be put through the ringer, ignored and denied help under Palin’s watch! Read what his mother went through to get assistance and direction!
Regina has an article on it……..click on the complaint she filed and imagine you having to go through what this poor parent did. Wow, pitiful and sad.
http://palingates.blogspot.com/2009/05/sarah-palin-small-government-smaller.html
Meg is reading C4cr*p blog…….they’re “claiming” the change in the poll is due to Scarah, of course, lol…….Scarah’s capitalizing on saying SEE! me good, him evil, vote for me.
Pearl89
I watched the speech and loved, loved, loved it.
On the wildlife centre, you go girl, it will be fantastic!
pearl89 Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:10 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/17/obama-notre-dame-speech-f_n_204387.html
On a personal note, been trying (not real hard, tho) to find something to do since I retired. I just finished checking out the USServices website and found a wildlife rehabilitation center that needs volunteers. I didn’t even know my hometown had such a center, but I will be calling them tomorrow. Wish me luck…
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Pearl, thanks for the link…I think PO made a heck of a speech!
I am wishing you luck, working with Animals is very gratifying and rewarding, I’m sure wildlife services need all the help they can get with many of young wildlife being found homeless, or serious trouble from envoirmental issues. I will have my fingers crossed for you..
Let’s see, Steele wants to ‘put it all on the table’ as do a ‘lot of Republicans’.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/17/steele-open-to-torture-in_n_204364.html
Glad he feels that way.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5325444/Prisoner-abuse-photographs-surface-as-Barack-Obama-prepares-to-block-publication.html
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
Oh Thank you to the mudflatter who posted the Deer Vid! Its so cute!
I wonder what they are servin’ up? lol.. what ever the deer really love it, cute
Again, that’s and if you didn’t see it earlier….
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/316898/deer_for_breakfast_in_texas/
mmboucher Florida Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
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I think I will chill out (and everyone else) When GINO is vacationing at the Greybar hotel!!!
Happy Sunday everyone! So many interesting posts and links.
@UK Lady….thanks for the Fox link. I never would have seen that and my head is spinning with Bill Kristol’s huge shift on SP. He thought she was qualified for VP but now doesn’t not see her as ready to run for Pres. Huh? I thought the primary qualification for VP was to be capable of being the Pres.
I caught the Notre Dame commencement address, too, and will try to watch again or find the transcript. I loved his discussion of doubt vs. certainty. Gino, listen up!
pearl89
I can only imagine that your service to all of our animals will be rewarding. Thank you. If I don’t hear Obama’s speech soon, I may burst…he never disappoints, but the craters keep coming…
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crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
mmboucher Florida Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
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I think I will chill out (and everyone else) When GINO is vacationing at the Greybar hotel!!!
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caligirl…. maybe they don’t realize how difficult it is ‘ to chill out’ today when we are expecting 100 degrees here in the Valley. (Sacto)
I would L O V E to ‘ chill out ‘ today….. not that easy.
okay, now I’m in moderation bad mudpup doghouse detention…..dang, lol.
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pearl89 Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:20 PM
According to the HuffPo, there were approximately 300 anti-abortion at Notre Dame today.
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I was watching on CNN and they called the demonstation at about 30 people.
honestyinGov Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:21 PM
# 94
crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
mmboucher Florida Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
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I think I will chill out (and everyone else) When GINO is vacationing at the Greybar hotel!!!
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caligirl…. maybe they don’t realize how difficult it is ‘ to chill out’ today when we are expecting 100 degrees here in the Valley. (Sacto)
I would L O V E to ‘ chill out ‘ today….. not that easy.
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HonestyinGov: wow! I hear ya, 100, yikes! We are hot here for SF was 80!
Its not even summer yet!
Keep cool, Honesty!
honestyinGov Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:21 PM
# 94
crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
mmboucher Florida Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
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I think I will chill out (and everyone else) When GINO is vacationing at the Greybar hotel!!!
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caligirl…. maybe they don’t realize how difficult it is ‘ to chill out’ today when we are expecting 100 degrees here in the Valley. (Sacto)
I would L O V E to ‘ chill out ‘ today….. not that easy.
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HonestyinGov: wow! I hear ya, 100, yikes! We are hot here for SF was 80!
Its not even summer yet!
Keep cool, Honesty!
It’s in the 90′s here in Palmetto also too!
He has a very good knowledge of various theologians and can discuss them competently, but he always amazes!!! A man with a brain and a soul! I am truly tired of the shallow and vicious people that pass off vacuous thought as victims as being believable in any way other than being manipulative and shallow, or just ignorant. Enough, already.
#69 penny ….I followed the ADN link. I read that article a long time ago but, today, found something funny I had previously missed.
Johnson (SP’s biographer) writes. “As a little girl, Sarah sat through services fidgeting, staring at her shiny shoes and smoothing her skirt.
Can’t you just picture that?! I’m thinkin’ she hasn’t changed much. The Palins attend 4 different churches (one is in Juneau) and aren’t members of any. Also, it’s clear from their tax returns that they don’t tithe.
hey sauerkraut……..did ya get help voting?
GA Peach
Saw those photoraphs over on Kos some days ago. Just … just, unspeakable horror, and worse, much worse to come. Won’t go into on this site. I think Pres. Obama know this will all come out, but needs to be at a step back. Others on his team know what needs to be done.
Speaking for myself, I am mortified that my government under Tony Blair was complicit in this situation and know that when the American public realises what was done in their name they will feel the same. Apart from the usual 20 percenters of course.
Wow – Mudpups you all are awesome! Caligirl -so sorry you can’t chill out with your temps. I feel your pain regarding GINO and her minions. They make me so ANGRY, and in the words of David Banner “You don’t want to make me angry!!!” ha ha!!! Irishgirl – thanks for the link to Lynnrockets, and LynnRockets thanks for setting up a blog. You crack me up!!! We need a good laugh with GINO and the Rethugs around. Perl89 – thanks for the Obama speech link, and best of luck with your volunteer efforts. So NO – good luck getting out of moderation – I was there once too for ranting about GINO
. Must. watch. my. tongue. Also there too: that suit is a sad case, and true. We were exposed to that reality when applying for the Katie Becket (called TEFRA in Alaska) Waiver for our daughter (born with DS). They said that if her care got too extreme (i.e. we couldn’t handle it at home) then the alternative would be an out-of-state institution because Alaska doesn’t have that for kiddos with special needs. DS has not profoundly affected our dear daughter, and her home is with us, her family, not some institution. But I would never dare judge a family of a child with special needs who made the decision to place their child with an institution. Until I walked in their footseps I have no idea what they have faced. My heart goes out to the families who face those decisions. And Scarah is just awful in her approach to children and families of children with special needs. But if I rant, I will go to purgatory again, must. not. rant.
On another note: I had an awesome 1/2 marathon today – The Marine Corps Historic Half in beautiful Fredericksburg, VA. God bless our men and women in uniform at home and deployed oversees. And God bless their families too!
And, one more thing, Yippee that the filly won the Preakness (spelling?) i think her name is rachel alexandra?
81 crystalwolf aka caligrl Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
I just saw something that REALLY Bugged me! “Palin speaks out”
I won’t link but here is her statement:
I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
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Another mudflatter left the link. Sorry, I’m all over the place today.
By reframing Obama’s abortion views and calling them ‘anti-life’, Palin obnoxiously shuts off debate and the possibility of working together to actually reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
Obama beautifully addressed the issue today in the Notre Dame address. We’ve got to keep abortion legal and safe to protect women’s civil rights, autonomy, freedom, health (apologizing for redundancy but struggling for the right words) while reducing the occurrence of abortion.
#65 BigSlick ….thanks for the Newsweek article. Great interview. I can’t help comparing Obama to SP and laugh imagining how she would answer similar questions. When Obama was asked what he was reading, he named the book and offered a little something about it. Oh, how I wish a reporter had asked SP to describe her favorite parts of the books she has been voraciously reading (per her interview on the book deal).
Curioser@95
You are welcome to the link to Faux, didn’t know wether to post it because it was them, but thought it was funny.
Bill Kristol not only thought she was a good VP pick, if my memory serves me well (it doesn’t usually to be honest), but he had a hand in finding her for McCain. I think he was one of the Alaskan Voyage people who found her along with Bill (always wrong) Morris. I could be wrong though.
I also think he may have changed alliances to Mitt Romney or Bobby Jindal but could also be wrong on that.
If misery is company, given Cheney and daugher, you’ve got it! My heritage, such as it is, is Cornish, Welsh, Scots, and English, and I’m proud of being a mutt. No one that I know of is a 20% yet, but you never know!
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mmboucher Florida Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:36 PM
You really need to chill out!!! LOL
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I would L O V E to ‘ chill out ‘ today….. not that easy.
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HonestyinGov: wow! I hear ya, 100, yikes! We are hot here for SF was 80!
Its not even summer yet!
Keep cool, Honesty!
It’s in the 90’s here in Palmetto also too!
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mmboucher…..
I might prefer my 100 to your 90. You might have it worse…… it’s the ‘ HUMIDITY’ there. Not sure where Palmetto is but I grew up and lived in Broward & Palm Bch for 35 years and it is Brutal !! I didn’t know how bad it was until I moved away. It might cool off to 56-60 at night here, which is comfortable BUT down there it could 75-80 degrees at night (and WITH …..the humidity ! )
Samual Jackson’s line from “Pulp Fiction” applies here…. ” Be COOL” !
lol…… it’s not really true about Dems wanting ALL business controlled by government, regulations happen because abuses happen and the rules are in place to protect all the people.
this is a post by a person on c4pea who is confused about repubs and dems…..so far no response to her.
anne s, May 17, 2009 3:36 PM
Trying to get a grasp of the differences between the Republican party and the Democratic party.. I am running into a widdle issue..
So, it seems Republicans want hands off government in their business sectors? Taxes, small businesses, gun control.. ect?
OK.. sounds reasonable
But then why is there such a push to have Government dictate people’s morals? Abortion/Antiabortion.. Gay Marriages?
So the hands off approach is only to the business sector? But they want the government very hands on when it comes to personal moral issues?
Democrats seem the opposite.. moral decisions are up to the person.. businesses the government will be sticking their noes in
Either way, to me, seem extreme
Id rather have more of a balance.. perhaps that is Independent?
UK Lady Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
GA Peach
Saw those photoraphs over on Kos some days ago. Just … just, unspeakable horror, and worse, much worse to come. Won’t go into on this site. I think Pres. Obama know this will all come out, but needs to be at a step back. Others on his team know what needs to be done.
Speaking for myself, I am mortified that my government under Tony Blair was complicit in this situation and know that when the American public realises what was done in their name they will feel the same. Apart from the usual 20 percenters of course.
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Yes I agree with you, I saw some on kos and was horrified and saddened, I hope the truth comes out and those responsible are dealt with. Cheney especially is one evil…if there is a satan he would be the personification of it.
@ UK Lady
You’re right! Kristol was one of the 3 voyagers (along with Fred Barnes and Michael Gerson – Weekly Standard cruise June 2007) who had lunch at the gov’s mansion with SP and put a lot of effort into promoting her nationally. Dick Morris met up with her after that on a National Review cruise. I’m wondering if the others are finding her less dazzling these days.
curiouser Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 1:50 PM
By reframing Obama’s abortion views and calling them ‘anti-life’, Palin obnoxiously shuts off debate and the possibility of working together to actually reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.
Obama beautifully addressed the issue today in the Notre Dame address. We’ve got to keep abortion legal and safe to protect women’s civil rights, autonomy, freedom, health (apologizing for redundancy but struggling for the right words) while reducing the occurrence of abortion.
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The top paragraph: Yes that’s what makes me so angry her and those “bot”s!
If everyone practiced birthcontrol/safe sex there would be hardly any abortions…what would they do? They couldn’t be divisive and bitch all the time?’ “Palin obnoxiously shuts off debate and the possibility of working together to actually reduce unwanted pregnancies and abortions.” says it all…totally.
beautifully said!
caught in the tubes….
113 curiouser Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 2:16 PM
@ UK Lady
You’re right! Kristol was one of the 3 voyagers (along with Fred Barnes and Michael Gerson – Weekly Standard cruise June 2007) who had lunch at the gov’s mansion with SP and put a lot of effort into promoting her nationally. Dick Morris met up with her after that on a National Review cruise. I’m wondering if the others are finding her less dazzling these days.
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The whole bunch need to clamor aboard the “S.S. STFU” and sail off into the oblivion that awaits them. sarah and Bachmann can be the ship wenches.
I heard Sarah Palin finally graduated high school. I’m simply atwitter.
Wouldn’t mind putting a bet on that they all wish they’d gone on a Carribean Cruise instead austintx
#115 austintx Says:
The whole bunch need to clamor aboard the “S.S. STFU” and sail off into the oblivion that awaits them. sarah and Bachmann can be the ship wenches.
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LOL…really, I am.
…but, but it was all so preordained, meeting those nationally influential conservative voices and enamoring them and all…surely a sign that god was openin’ a door. And then there was all that expensive PR work to spread the energy expert myth. All falling apart. Trick door.
Here in Arizona, we are about to break the record for consecutive days in May over 100 degrees. We should send some of that up to Eagle to melt that ice!!
You know how male teenagers wear their pants about to fall off ?? Well , in Flint , Michigan , it’s a crime. Here is the diagram that the police carry to enforce the law.
http://freep.com/uploads/images/2008/07/saggychart0709.jpg
crystalwolf……I’m in the doghouse with ya. woof and howlin
What He’s Learned
A Conversation with Barack Obama
http://www.newsweek.com/id/197891/page/1
smallsteps……lol, yes, must contain rants, tubes are no fun. I “think” the filter can be fooled if it’s a short post? here’s a letter to the editor by Andree.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/letters/story/798110.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30786730
This is an article about conservatives getting their arguements together to try to block whoever PO picks for the SC – pretty much soley based on the abortion issue.
This drives me crazy. Do these people not realize that they are being used by the Republican party?! If Roe v Wade was going to be overturned, it would have happened while W was pres. They vote on just this one issue and ignore everything else. Don’t they get it? Republicans don’t want abortion to be illegal any more than democrats do, they just let the Dems take the rap!
And why are they all for the death penalty? Did God say it’s ok to kill people once they’ve lived for a few years and I missed it? They seem to be pretty hot for war too. And they certainly don’t want to pay to take care of those poor children once they’re here! Ugh.
Sorry for the rant – sometimes the hypocrisy just overwhelms me…
okay, lol……someone needs to fact check this……from Palin, btw….she has “favorites” when it comes to grandpas.
“My favorite grandpa, Clem James Sheeran, was Catholic. Irish to the core, his favorite place (other than church) was Notre Dame. I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
111 honestyinGov Says: You are right about the humidity except there is a nice breeze today and lower humidity. Palmetto is just south of Tampa. I came from upstate NY, it took some getting used to the heat, but now I would freeze back home.
mmboucher florida,
Umm, is your background by any chance Canadian/ French Canadian?
126 Say NO to Palin in Politics Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
okay, lol……someone needs to fact check this……from Palin, btw….she has “favorites” when it comes to grandpas.
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Thanks for pointing that out. Does this indicate she might have a favorite parent? Favorite child?
Say NO to Palin in Politics Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 4:34 PM
okay, lol……someone needs to fact check this……from Palin, btw….she has “favorites” when it comes to grandpas.
“My favorite grandpa, Clem James Sheeran, was Catholic. Irish to the core, his favorite place (other than church) was Notre Dame. I can’t imagine what he would think as the university recognizes someone who contradicts the core values of the Catholic faith by promoting an anti-life agenda.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ she covers all the bases doesn’t she. He lived in Douglas Washington, a long way from South Bend Indiana. Personally, I think it’s just more BS.
@pvazwindy
she covers all the bases doesn’t she. He lived in Douglas Washington, a long way from South Bend Indiana. Personally, I think it’s just more BS.
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Me too. She’s a whore for media coverage.
128 the problem child Says:
No my backround is I’m a Vermonter!
Cool mmboucher! I’m always trying to track down those erstwhile Canucks. If Boucher is your last name, it’s pretty common here.
I wonder what SP would say about her favorite grandfather Clem being the main plaintiff in a class action lawsuit, suing General Electric for increased pension benefits and losing (if I’m reading correctly) the case in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/593/593.F2d.93.77-2869.html
134 curiouser Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I wonder what SP would say about her favorite grandfather Clem being the main plaintiff in a class action lawsuit, suing General Electric for increased pension benefits and losing (if I’m reading correctly) the case in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F2/593/593.F2d.93.77-2869.html
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Great find !! I e-mailed the link to an attorney to ‘splain to me. He is a busy guy , hopefully he can respond. I’ll say something if he does. Grifter Gramps , huh ??
#135 austintx Says:
Great find !! I e-mailed the link to an attorney to ’splain to me. He is a busy guy , hopefully he can respond. I’ll say something if he does. Grifter Gramps , huh ??
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Hopin’ your attorney friend has time. Grifter Gramps….LOL
austintx #122 – what is up with the kids wearing their pants this way? I don’t think they should go to jail but I’ll tell you it is driving me nuts. I would like to slap them silly. It is a big deal here and I don’t get it. Is this cool all over the country? I fear I am out of touch and have to face my age.
More important things going on here but this is a pet peeve so had to get it out of my system. Carry on and thank you (o:
Curiouser – loved the “trick door” comment, but disagree about “Grifter Gramps.” It sounds like he was a working man trying to get what he felt was due him (and 1589 others) after GE decided that they would not increase the pension of prior “vestees.” I don’t blame the class action filers for seeking redress if they felt the original pension plan would have covered them if the plant had not been closed. I think the court made the correct decision, but it was worth a try for them to make their case. So, not a grifter, in my opinion, but a working stiff like you and me (except I’m retired too).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
I didn’t see where anyone else had published this link. They have an interactive map up giving stess test indicators for all counties in the US.
I keep reading about how much better the AK economy is than the rest of the country given the unemployment figures cited.
In too much of a hurry, the last sentence should have read…how can this be, given the unemployment figures cited?
I thought he would go for the concept of choice for all people. Whatever.
It’s a choice. Every where and everytime.
it is the Law of the Country of the US.
None is pro-abotion.
We are pro-choice
Physicsmom….Thanks for the acknowledgement on the ‘trick door’ comment.
The grifter comment was meant in fun. The lawsuit just seems ironic given the conservative GOP stance in union vs management issues.
Playing devil’s advocate, imagine a reverse situation with reduced benefits put in place. Those with greater vested benefits wouldn’t ask to be included. Or, say AK state employee benefits were increased for future retirees and current retirees sued the state to be included. I suspect Palin would fight them tooth and nail. The state has a limited budget and couldn’t cover the costs of raising benefits for a larger group. The current retirees knew what their benefits would be and should have planned accordingly… one of those ‘tough luck’ situations. Now, I’m truly not sure if this speculation makes any sense and there’s a big possibility that I didn’t understand the lawsuit, just speculating…just for fun.
137 michigander Says:
May 17th, 2009 at 8:21 PM
austintx #122 – what is up with the kids wearing their pants this way? I don’t think they should go to jail but I’ll tell you it is driving me nuts. I would like to slap them silly. It is a big deal here and I don’t get it. Is this cool all over the country? I fear I am out of touch and have to face my age.
More important things going on here but this is a pet peeve so had to get it out of my system. Carry on and thank you (o:
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I know…………it was open thread……..I saw it ……..just being a yahoo.