Open Thread – NASA TV!
I think this is one of the greatest pictures ever taken. It was captured by the Hubble Telescope back in early 1995. It’s called “The Hubble Deep Field.” Yes, this is a picture of the night sky, but it’s much more than that. Scientists decided that they wanted to point the Hubble at a portion of the sky that looked unusually empty. They picked the dullest, most boring little spot, without much of anything that could be detected by Earth telescopes, and they decided to take a picture. So they pointed Hubble’s great eye at that little spot.
To get a sense of scale, do the following. Go find a penny, and hold it between your fingers at arm’s length. Make sure Lincoln is facing you. Then look at the size of Lincoln’s eyeball. That’s the size of the spot of night sky that Hubble looked at. And what you see above is what they found in that spot. Hundreds of galaxies and billions of stars, and a window into the formation of the early universe. This shot contains a small red dot, which is actually the farthest known thing in the universe. The light from that dot that hit the lens of the Hubble Telescope began its journey long before our Sun, or our solar system even existed.
No wonder people love the Hubble. Sitting here on our little blue dot, looking at that little red dot, and contemplating all that lies between gives us a sense of perspective, and a sense of awe that deflates the hubris to which our species is inclined.
Now, thanks to the crew of the Atlantis who upgraded the scope, Hubble’s eye, and thus the eye of humankind will be able to see farther than it ever has before.
Today the Space Shuttle and its weary crew return home. You can catch it live by tuning in to NASA TV!
Click HERE to see it live at the following times:
DEORBIT BURN :
08:50:00 a.m. Friday May 22, 2009 in US/Eastern Daylight Time (Sadly, that’s 4:50am Alaska time)
Landing time Kennedy Space Center :
10:01:00 a.m. Friday May 22, 2009 in US/Eastern Daylight Time (6:00am Alaska time)
You can read a transcript of or listen to President Obama’s talk with the crew of the Atlantis HERE.
UPDATE: The landing was scrapped today due to bad weather. Keep the link bookmarked and an ear to the ground for news of the next scheduled attempt!
Wow – crabnebula looks scary and cool at the same time !!
I can never study the stars without thinking of Romeo and Juliet.
“When he shall die, take him and cut him out in little stars, and he will make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night, and pay no worship to the garish sun.”
Cool…I love the Hubble photos. I have the Eskimo Nebula poster on my fridge:)
from Huffpost:
If anyone has a facebook account you can join this movement:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Telling-Dick-Cheney-to-shut-the-hell-up/88683275177#/pages/Telling-Dick-Cheney-to-shut-the-hell-up/88683275177?ref=mf
I started out my academic life as a physics major and was going to become an astrophysicist, but fell in love with the earth when I took a geology course with a friend, and majored in geology instead.
But here’s a thing I’ve never figured out. Some of these stars in the picture look back nearly 11 billion years (if I remember correctly), and the light has traveled for 11 billion years toward us. But 11 billion years ago when the light started out, we (our region of the universe – the solar system didn’t exist) were a lot closer to those galaxies. So I can’t figure the geometry out – can’t figure out why the light didn’t pass us by as the light moved faster than we moved away from the galaxies, and why we can still see 11 billion years back in time. Any takers?
Aussie Blue Sky –
And I think of these verses from Psalm 8:
4 When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers, *
the moon and the stars you have set in their courses,
5 What is man that you should be mindful of him? *
the son of man that you should seek him out?
And this passage from Job 38:
1: Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind:
2: “Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
3: Gird up your loins like a man, I will question you, and you shall declare to me.
4: “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.
5: Who determined its measurements — surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?
6: On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone,
7: when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Snoskred haz a sad.
Well sort of. You kinda wonder whether the astronauts are cheering about getting to stay in space longer! 
The shuttle has officially been waved off from landing today due to bad weather. They will try again tomorrow, and in that case there are landing opportunities both in Florida and California.
I have to wonder if President Obama was channeling Sarah Palin while talking to the Astronauts –
President Obama: I do have to just, by the way, say, Captain, that you and Dr. Grunsfeld as Illinoisans, you know I’ve gotta give you a special shout out.
Atlantis: Well, thanks very much, my sister was just asking today to take a picture of Chicago as we went by. We were able to see it in the distance and take a picture so we can send that along as well.
President Obama: Outstanding. We’ll I’ve gotta get a copy of that picture. Maybe I … did you guys see my house? I’m trying to figure out if my lawn is getting mowed there. I haven’t been back for a couple of months.
Perhaps he should call Sarah. I am sure she can see his lawn from her house.
Aussie – I’m not on facebook, but it would almost be worth it to join this group. He is infuriating. nauseating. I had been so looking forward to getting rid of him. I saw a headline this morning that Bush says it’s “liberating” to be retired. No wonder – he’s out of Cheney’s grasp.
Thanks for the link. I’ll send it on to others.
lemonfair–nuh uh. i can’t figure out the question never mind the answer. i think my brain just froze. we have to wait till smarter people wake up. it is still early in new york. …love b
buubles – is that shrimp awake yet ??
bubbles – sorry
“then sings my soul….. how great Thou art…how great Thou art.” raising my voice in song praise with you lemonfair. love Job 38. a.k.m. thank you. again you elevate my mind and open my heart with your words and pictures…..b
austintx–good morning! you are up early. the shrimp scared me to death the other night it molted or something. anyhow it’s half the size it was. i am a nervous wreck…love b
Dear lemonfair;
You made my brain hurt. Between throbs of deep thinking pain, it dawned on me that none of the process was tidy. This just happens to be the one we can see. There were probably billions that went by several billion years ago when we were still babies. Since the shape isn’t a perfect circle, some still get to be seen since they’re traveling from a further spot in the misshapen universe. Or at least that’s the story I’m going with for now.
How do you think people read about this and then try to claim this all happened in 7 days — including the day of rest? And that it was, what, 5,000 years ago?
B
“Sitting here on our little blue dot, looking at that little red dot, and contemplating all that lies between gives us a sense of perspective, and a sense of awe that deflates the hubris to which our species is inclined.”
you said it all right there
@Aussie Blue Sky -
And I think of these verses from Psalm 8:
4 When I consider your heavens, the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars you have set in their courses,
5 What is man that you should be mindful of him?
the son of man that you should seek him out?
Wow, just wow.
Posted this on the wrong thread earlier, sorry AKM.
Sherry Johnston makes a plea deal
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/crime/story/804557.html
Lemonfair
My brain hurts, I don’t even understand the question
Landing Opportunities for tomorrow –
SATURDAY
Orbit – 180 Landing location – KSC
DeOrbit Burn – 7:02 a.m. Landing – 8:16 a.m.
Orbit – 181 Landing location – EDW
DeOrbit Burn – 8:29 a.m. Landing – 9:46 a.m.
Orbit – 181 Landing location – KSC
DeOrbit Burn – 8:46 a.m. Landing – 9:54 a.m.
Orbit – 182 Landing location – EDW
DeOrbit Burn – 10:12 a.m. Landing – 11:24 a.m.
I might be a bit biased and hope for Edwards Air Force Base, just so the shuttle can fly across the country on the 747 thingy.. In case you haven’t seen it –
Link to see shuttle piggybacking on a 747
Oh, and I should alsomention – they have heaps of supplies and could hold out until Sunday or even Monday for the landing if they need to..
Seeing as the shuttle will be there for at least another 24 hours, if you don’t have any clouds in your sky why not see if there is a viewing opportunity as it flies over?
http://www.heavens-above.com/
Yeah it’s kinda neat to watch the shuttle piggyback on the 747. . .it’s also very very very expensive and dangerous. . . to the 747 crew and to the shuttle itself.
We always know when the shuttle returns home – the sonic booms shake rattle and roll the place. . . and invariably someone smiles and says “honey, I’m home!” Even the dogs aren’t freaked out by the booms anymore.
17 UK Lady Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 AM
Sherry Johnston makes a plea deal
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Yup – Just like I said – Rex had ‘em by the short hairs. There was too much dirt that would’ve come out at a trial. I hope Sherry gets the help she needs and stays on the straight and narrow. And gets to see her grandchild.
There’s some great shots on airliners.net of the shuttle Enterprise (the one that never flew in space and only did test gliding in the early years – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Enterprise – ) piggybacking to various airshows around the world in 1983..
Many shuttle and 747 pics
I don’t think it ever made it out here to Australia, but it certainly toured Europe by the look of things.
BJA – that’s another thing I can’t figure out – how people think the Bible is a science textbook. Makes me wonder if they ever actually read it.
Some have described the universe as like the surface of a balloon, rather than as a sphere, which we would intuitively think it was. On the surface of a balloon every point moves away from every other point as the balloon expands (you can try this with magic marker, but it probably works in your head, too).
So one of the things that makes my brain hurts is that space is created as the universe expands. What does the space expand in to if there’s no space. My little time-bound, space-bound head can’t deal with that.
good for sherry johnston. glad mr. butler took the case. now he can concentrate on kicking collective palin rumps from ‘amazing grace to floating opportunity’[one of my mother's favorite sayings] cracked me up everytime she’d say it with that southern drawl of hers.
Not to be too cynical, but I’d like to see what the Hubble is looking at, here, down on earth, too;.
Another thought just occurred to me: has anyone used Google Earth to check out SP’s neighborhood?
24 bubbles Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 AM
……. now he can concentrate on kicking collective palin rumps….
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Oh – you can bet the ranch that’s coming. sarah loses sleep over Team Levi.
lemonfair–what about dark matter said be weblike that interlinks the whole of the universe together?
25 aha Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 AM
Another thought just occurred to me: has anyone used Google Earth to check out SP’s neighborhood?
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I like the way you think………that would be cool !! Remember when Cheney banned google from showing his residence ?? Paranoid weasel.
All – here are some great site:
Hubble galaxy photos – you can find other categories if you move around the site:
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/galaxy
http://www.wikisky.org/
Hubble Space Telescope Advent Calendar 2008!!
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/hubble_space_telescope_advent.html
Totally amazing pictures of Saturn:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/04/cassinis_continued_mission.html
austintx— yup, yup. i can hardly wait. wish they would televise the trial. be like watching an episode of south park..b
lemonfair: You think like I do about stuff like that. ‘cept my questions usually have something to do with the human body and muscle spindle cells and calcium and trying to figure out cures for diseases in my head….
insofar as “time”, you need to remember it’s all relative
bubbles – “what about” as in “isn’t that amazing?” yes it is. Pretty hard to study, seeing as how it’s dark.
I forgot to add this site, where you can actually contribute to science! The idea is that there are so many galaxies (duh) that it takes a lot of people to categorize them, and it turns out us ordinary people can do just as good a job as the professionals, if they take our answers in aggregate. So give back to the universe (:-D) and spend some time with galaxy zoo.
https://galaxyzoo.org/
Also, if you only want to click on one link to great Hubble photographs, the advent calendar site’s the one. And you can save the photos to your own picture file by right-clicking and saving image as..
Hubble Space Telescope Advent Calendar 2008!!
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/hubble_space_telescope_advent.html
Ripley – there’s a reputedly great movie I’ve never watched called Powers of Ten, which I find you can maybe watch online, and you’ve jogged my memory about it and will pursue that. It takes you bigger and smaller by powers of ten, and both are equally amazing.
Oops – forgot to include a link
http://www.powersof10.com/
I’ve got to go to work (east coast time). will check in later.
OT, even for an open thread, but here is another title, using the K.I.S.S. principle, for Sarah’s upcoming book: “Duh!”
I am so hoping to be flying around the universe after I die. There is such a big lovely world out there! I am not religious but I am in awe of mother nature and I believe that love is the creative energy of the universe and that, as Kurt Vonnegut said, music is all the evidence we have of God. I mention music because the universe has music. Black holes give off a very low B flat.
It is photos like this and contemplating the universe that convinces me that the fundie version of God, the vengeful, petty, “choose the right religion or go to hell” just cannot be true. Thinking like that makes the creator of this lovely universe into a petty tyrant.
lilybart—you and i share similar belief systems. we live in a universe that can not be codified by anyone and to allow ones self to persuaded to religious norms cheapens and leads us along paths to madness and delusion…b
When you ponder on the infinity of the infinite infinite-yes, our very finite brains aren’t really up to the task-you might wonder, “why would the Creator be so obsessed with gays, on our puny tiny little speck of a planet”?
35 Lilybart Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 AM
Black holes give off a very low B flat.
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I didn’t know that, but being an old trombone player I like it!
Snoskred,
Thanks for the update. I’m happy the landing was called off this morning as I would have missed it as I was at an appt.
Gotta tell ya — Pres could easily check his house at any time. He could order up satellite pics to see if grass cut, windows closed and probably see the ant walking up the sidewalk!!
McPain & Cindy are in audience listening to Pres give commencement speech to Naval Academy Class in Annapolis as their son is graduating. Wonder what McPain has to spew later.
ripley in ct.—reading now about muscle spindel cells. curious about muscle building. was hyperthyroid at one time and loss muscles and hair. now much better but need to build muscles in shoulders and arms. muscle coming back in legs and thighs. it will take time but i will succeed. going to read more. next month will start rehab so need to be able to talk to doctors and sound as if i have a clue….[smiles]…b
The deep field photo is my favorite of all time.
It never fails to amaze me that fundies have such a restricted god, who obsesses exclusively about what we do on our little rock.
If we are the purpose of creation, then why is there so damn much of it?
Took a boo at the Netroots Scholarship site and see they have updated by removing the first round winners from the voting page.
http://democracyforamerica.com/netroots_nation_scholarships
We in the Tucson area secretly hope for California shuttle landings. While carrying the weight of the shuttle, the 747 is forced to carry a light fuel load, and Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson is their first refueling stop. Twice I’ve gotten to see the shuttle piggy-backing, and it’s an amazing sight. If a California landing happens, I’ll be camera-ready for the return flight to FL.
Lilybart @ 35
I couldn’t agree more. Everything about fundie-ism feels so wrong.
Palin’s ghostwriter doesn’t sound that nice judging by her previous books!! Not to fussy who she is pallin’ around with either!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/sarah-palins-book-collabo_b_206713.html
A magnificent picture, the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field is. It is, without a doubt one of the most scientifically important observations that we’ve made. One of my professors from this past semester has done a lot of work on large-scale cosmology with Hubble and is helping with the development of the James Webb Space Telescope that’s replacing it in a few years.
This picture is not, however, the Hubble Deep Field, as I noted above. It is the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field (in the constellation Fornax). This picture had 11 days worth of exposure and we can see about 13BLY into the past. There are to Hubble Deep Fields, the Northern (in Ursa Major) and Southern (in Tucana) Deep Fields that both look back between 10-12BLY.
Cheney’s speech contained omissions, misstatements
AFP – Former US Vice President Dick Cheney speaks at the American Enterprise Institute on US national security …
By Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel, McClatchy Newspapers – Thu May 21, 7:10 pm ET
WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney’s defense Thursday of the Bush administration’s policies for interrogating suspected terrorists contained omissions, exaggerations and misstatements.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090521/pl_mcclatchy/3237981
LOL, Irishgirl, over on the newsminer (Fairbanks news) in the comments sections it states that the ghostwriter is an abortion survivor says Akreport from p4c, also, too, that she is also an abortion survivor. AAwwww, poor me, a victim just like GINO screaming look at me, pay attention to me.
Irishgirl Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 7:10 AM
Palin’s ghostwriter doesn’t sound that nice judging by her previous books!! Not to fussy who she is pallin’ around with either!
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I saw some links to her last night…This is going to be the biggest work of fiction ever!!! She is TOTALLY pandering to her base with this one…the woman is a freeper. This book gonna be in Fiction area of the bookstore or “christian” section.
Its going to be a totally lynin’ bomb! Memoirs my azz!
the answer is: light-years is not the same as time
The Hubble Space Telescope can see out to a distance of several billions of light-years. A light-year is the distance that light travels in 1 year. Since light has a speed of 186,000 miles per second (light can travel about 7 times around the entire earth in 1 second!), light travels about 5,865,696,000,000 miles in just one year. You can attach 9 more zeros to the end of this to get 1 billion light-years and another one for 10 billion light-years. The farthest that Hubble has seen so far is about 10-15 billion light-years away. The farthest area looked at is called the Hubble Deep Field.
Cheney had his puppet on CNN Anderson Cooper last night. IMO Cheney himself seems to have freely discussed far too much with regard to intelligence/security and memos and briefings with her just by the way she talks. I would think that’s illegal.
As much as I don’t like Cooper as his “keeping them honest” is bullcrap (he never follows up – it’s just as story), I found Liz very condescending.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/05/22/ac.liz.cheney.cnn?iref=videosearch
Bubbles: read about the “sliding filament theory”, too. Calcium is crucial to the process. My kinesiology teacher in Massage therapy school couldn’t answer the questions I came up with in class on the molecular level of action….. So, I read.
Thyroid disease is nothing to play with. I have it (autoimmune hypothyroidism). Not fun. Take vitamin D. Daily. twice in the winter. Read, Grasshopper!
*good thing this is an open thread… although I’m speaking of the internal universe, I suppose! Everything is connected anyway*
50 Ripley in CT Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 AM
*good thing this is an open thread… although I’m speaking of the internal universe, I suppose! Everything is connected anyway*
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Could you explain this then , please…….
http://ineedfile.com/montana.html
A new Pew report is out, the repubs are not going to like it, lol.
http://digg.com/d1rnfb
Dems Making Massive Gains As GOP Deteriorates: Pew Poll
“a massive Democratic advantage today of 53 to 36, a 17 percentage point split, by far the largest difference in the past two decades.”
ripley in ct. o.k. grasshopper is going read now. will purchase vitamin d today. have to take synthroid in the morning and calcium four hours later so will take calcium and vitamin together. thank you VERY much. i need all the help i can get with this. so hard sometimes…love b
austintx
Could you explain this then , please…….
http://ineedfile.com/montana.html
When all you have is a VW be sure and get a Mercedes hood ornament.
I bet he impresses girl elk.
will Scarah jump on this guys bandwagon? is there something TX and AK have in common? like ignorant republican leaders?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/19/joe-barton-gop-congressma_n_205549.html
Joe Barton, GOP Congressman, Explains Why CO2 Is Harmless: “It’s In Your Coca-Cola” (VIDEO)
“Barton, who has resisted proposals to reduce the country’s oil dependence, explained that there shouldn’t be any concern about carbon-dioxide emissions because CO2 is relatively harmless”
54 Marnie Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 AM
When all you have is a VW be sure and get a Mercedes hood ornament.
I bet he impresses girl elk.
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I’m sure.The pink helmet shows he is in touch with his feminine side……..
OT OT
Well, it’s not NASA…
but under the “you just can’t make this stuff up!” department:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/18/man-calls-911-over-28-yea_n_204889.html
This is soooo goofy on sooo many levels.
Remember, there’s no such thing as “off topic” on an open thread!
AKM
As others have said that composite photo is actually the Hubble Ultra Deep Field (HUDF) taken in 2003-2004 – not the Hubble Deep Field taken in 1995.
The photo is WAY MORE impressive than you may think. There are just a few stars from our galaxy in the pic. You are looking at about 10,000 GALAXIES! And this is just a random speck of the darkest most empty sky. It would take 50 of these photos just to cover up the moon.
So, 10,000 galaxies each with 100,000,000,000 or more stars and who knows how many planets… the mind reels!
The universe is not only stranger than we imagine but also stranger than we CAN imagine.
I love the Hubble.
I visit astronomy picture of the day ever once in a while, then play catch-up from my last visit.
I’ve got a series of 5 photos of V838Mon that I use as a slide show desktop picture. Shows it expanding and dissipating. Love it.
What I love most about astronomy picture of the day is the descriptions, written by actual scientists and the links provided in the text. And you know these guys have a sense of humor.
I’m glad they’ve repaired Hubble and given it a little more time. We’ve certainly gotten our money’s worth and it has certainly lived a long and fruitful life. I will be sad when it is finally laid to rest.
I truly hope there are plans in the works now to replace it with Hubble II, bigger, better, longer lasting.
We shouldn’t have to justify the dollars and cents of a quest for knowledge.
Because when you cease to grow, you start to die.
here-in-pa, what is an “Abortion survivor”
Was she born after an abortion attempt by her mother??!!!
Or is this what the fundies call women who have had abortions but didn’t commit suicide or something?? ugh
Enjoy a “Ahhh Cute” moment Mudpups!!
http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/2009/05/20/9517491.html
Lemonfair
But there is no information about when that red spot (red dwarf?) was formed. There was no matter at the Big Bang only energy, not even photons. I believe. So the red star, as did all matter, formed at some time later.
The energy of the original blast has had to decrease in order for mass to form to the red dot star; though probably much older than our solar system, it would not have been born at the Big Bang.
There is nothing, I believe, in the epicenter of the Big Bang, just radio waves that still echo around the universe.
Canadian Neighbour–Awww, those are cute. I esp. love photo #6; the look on that cub’s face as it’s lifted out of the basket for weighing is priceless!
I have to wonder after reading Les Gara’ statement – if Sarah assumed that the legislature (without really checking it out) would over ride her veto, and is now stuck with her nasty minded veto.
If she assumed they could legally override and then didn’t she could try to pass all the negative PR on to them. Either way she gets her RepoTaliban merit points.
At at guess, that’s the game she’s playing and once again has been caught out not knowing Alaska’s laws and regulations and not caring enough to find out.
Bubbles
- Good for you! Read, Read, Read! The best Vitamin D I have found is in drop form. (Also, get some sun! – without chemical coating your body in sunscreen) You can probably get it at any naturalpathic clinic or online. Biotics research is the one I use. Remember not all supplements are created equal. It’s like anything else. There is good quality and bad quality. Some work better than others. The best are are from natural sources not synthetic. i think when we put synthetic/manmade stuff on/in our bodies it is nothing more than pollution that our bodies than have to deal with.
Ripley – have you looked into systemic enzyme therapy? I don’t know a lot about hypothyroidism (though I keep mine monitored as a lot of my problems seem to relate) This is my latest area of research and amazement. I think thyroid people are Amylase deficient? Enzymes have done wonders for me (I have bad bad Lyme).
Anyway, I just wanted to put that out there without hopefully getting to soap boxy! I have found that by reading others experiences and what works/ doesn’t work and then researching has been the best tool.
Ha !! Henry Waxman knows how to fix those obstructionist GOP ass-wipes.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/waxman-hires-speed-reader-to-combat-gop-obstruction.php
What’s this, Sherry Johnston’s made a plea deal? If the deal doesn’t reflect what a person with no connections has been able to cut in the past the cry of equal protection under the law will be heard far and wide. I hope they get it right.
Canadian Neighbour Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Enjoy a “Ahhh Cute” moment Mudpups!!
http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/2009/05/20/9517491.html
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cubs in a basket… too cute
I am so glad that we spent the money and fixed the Hubble. Remember a few years ago when the Bush Administration was talking about trashing the whole project?
I love the Hubble photos; not only are they an inspiration as to the awesomeness (in every sense of the word) of our universe, but reminds us that our petty, little problems are just that: petty and little.
Remember, we are all made out of Stardust, and to the Stars we will return one day.
Blessings to All.
@Ripley in CT, bubbles, and QuiltAK:
I have Hasimoto’s Disease (hypothyroidism), Fibromyalgia, and chemical sensitivities–Vitamin D is awesome; if you can’t take the drops, make sure your supplement is D3. Read, read is right- I spread my Vitamin D out over the day, as 400mg is all you can absorb at one time. At night: Calcium/Magnesium/D- really helps. I also suggest trying an elimination diet. Not fun for the first 10-14 days (stayed away from knives in the kitchen, heh heh), but I discovered no sugar, yeast, and wheat really helps.
I heart the Hubble; the photos are awe-inspiring.
Need a good laugh? Watch this:
http://videoguide.msn.com/play/?g=a257b9f1-946e-4eca-b196-6e4b3713aa53&ftitle=hot%20viral%20videos&
This was an awe-inspiring post, here’s what I wrote about it on my blog:
Thank you Mudflats for a wonderful blog that reminds me of how puny we are, and how glorious and vast the universe.
http://www.themudflats.net/2009/05/22/open-thread-nasa-tv/
It is so enormous, there must be other planets with more intelligent life forms, and that gives me comfort.
I have come across many people who talk about their discovery of the drastically different future we have assured with our reckless squandering of fuel. It seems universal that we feel like we are living in a parallel universe with all those who surround us that remain oblivious. I have even read comments from people whose spouse is a denier, which must be especially painful.
I have been thinking a lot lately about the inexorable nature of extinction and the very real possibility that we have already assured the destruction of a habitable environment – not just for trees but eventually, us too. Reading the geological history of prior extinctions as recounted in “With Fear and Violence” has been quite useful in helping me to put this 6th Great Extinction in perspective.
For me there have been two major components to the process of realizing the inevitability of ecosystem collapse. The first concern is the almost certain breakdown of civilized society and a culture that is governed by laws. Even if it does not happen soon – and I think we are close to a tipping point – it will definitely happen in my children’s lifetime. And I am helpless to spare them the ravages, deprevations and dislocations and quite likely, violence that will ensue.
The second concern is the soul-crushing notion that all the beauty that humans have created, all the art, music, theater, dance, will be lost forever.
Of course, think of all the beautiful flora and fauna that humans have driven to extinction and perhaps it’s only fair.
As Lord Lovelock would have it, Gaia’s revenge.
Here is an op-ed in todays NYT that mentions Bristol and Meghan McCain.
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/meghan/
I read that link to the huffington post about the son, wow. I hope my son doesnt still live with us. He told me , he wont move out till hes like 40. I hope not. But, I hope he at least goes to college.
That is really amazing, the pictures of the stars! We dont see stars as bright down here in Washington. I know, in Southeast, its always breathtaking to see the stars.
To those who are taking vitamin D supplements. Please be careful. Excessive amounts are stored in the body and can be fatal. Be sure to check with your physician on your dosages to be sure you are doing it right. I happen to have a PhD in nutrition and am a Registered Dietitian, so I hear alarm bells when people self medicate with fat soluble vitamins.
so I wonder if all the previous talk about Bristol “working her butt off going to school and parenting” way back when Levi lost his job was all preparation for the people magazine article and the gretta interview conveniently was “supposed” to lead up to the Candi spokesperson.
People magazine has Bristol in her grad gown, holding her baby and in the article speaking of how hard she’s working to parent and supply the baby’s needs.
What next, after they build up Bristol’s celeb image will she also, too, write a book? lol, it wouldn’t surpise me that this is part of their unfolding “plan”.
I would also assume they’re trying to “hide” any big money Bristol is making because wouldn’t she get less child support from Levi if she made more than he? or even have to pay him child support? (I don’t have any experience with it myself, so I have no clue).
I just get the sense they are doing all they can to “make it up” to Bristol for using her pregnancy during the campaign and throwing her into the media eye. So I look for “Gods” unfolding plan in Bristol’s life, which is really Meg and Scarah and whoever plotting in the background, they are very good plotters.
It also makes me wonder if the break up with Levi wasn’t encouraged to happen. Hey, Scarah didn’t win VP so it’s safe to dump Levi, his mother’s drug troubled tie, she can’t be called mother in law and Mercede who Bristol doesn’t like anyway.
It all has a weird planned out PR feel to it.
The baby is born
They break up
“Bristols” interview with Gretta
People Mag exclusives
Candi’s spokesperson
More People Mag exclusive
All of a sudden she has a team of lawyers
What next a publicist?
Public speeches across the nation, youth group gigs?
Her own column in teen mags? lol
I do believe there is more to come in this little campaign to create a career and bring about financial support for Bristol. You know dang well Scarah doesn’t intend to support her, which is right, but it’s weird how all this is craftily spun and planned, I suppose who ever is the think tank behind this is doing it for free?
Did anyone see that post by Greg Mitchell on HuffPo about the woman who will “collaborate” with Scarah on her memoir? Apparently she has also co-written a book called Donkey Cons with a guy who belonged to a white supremacy group. So now Scarah is “pallin around with domestic terrorist” types also too!
THE POWER OF THE INTERNET
This serves to explain why any online poll can be hijacked by anybody for fun and profit.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/21/AR2009052104472_2.html?g=0
Thank You…BNTJudy….
I was finally able to find the links over there at WordPress to personalize the gravitar. I couldn’t get it cropped just right…. but it will do.
Mudflat yellow….. Vrooommmm…. Vroooommmm !
honestyinGov: You are welcome. I was hoping you saw my answer, and when I saw your new gravitar on other threads, I knew you had figured it out. Nice! Very, very nice!
Speaking of whiny, spineless GOP ‘ talking mouths’… did everyone see the story on HuffPo that Glenn Beck once he made it back to the safety of his dungeon/studio he found the nerve to speak up..?
He wants an apology from The View.
The man is a sea urchin. Sea urchins have no spine. Just a big ‘ jelly mass’ inside a shell.
Now, honestyinGov, please don’t bring the poor little sea urchin into this. And, while they may not have a spine like we do, they do have many protective spines externally. I might be tempted to compare Beck to a snake, but, alas, I like them, too.
Well – Our Gov.”whorehouse” Perry sure ain’t got a problem taking this stimulus money.
http://wonkette.com/408722/fiscally-disciplined-country-texas-to-spend-11-million-in-obama-money-to-rebuild-rick-perrys-house
@lemonfair: Why didn’t the light already pass us?
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Very crude explanation follows: Hubble’s Law says that the speed at which distant astronomical objects appear to move away from us (and us from them) is proportional to their distance from us. As someone above observed, the way to visualize this in two dimensions is to put some dots on a balloon, and then blow it up at a constant rate. All the dots move apart from each other, and the dots that are further apart (as measured on the surface of the balloon) move apart faster.
Now, the tricky bit here is that the dots aren’t actually moving with respect to the surface of the balloon. They are painted on, after all. What is happening is that new space (balloon surface) is appearing between the dots. Now, all you have to do is visualize this as happening to our three-dimensional universe as a hyper-surface on an expanding hyperspherical balloon. (That’s a joke. Nobody can visualize that, but you can write math to express it).
As it happens, the expansion rate of the universe is such that things that are very far away from us are getting farther away at almost the speed of light. Remember, this is because space is being added between us. So, think about that object that is 11 billion light years away. 10 billion years ago, maybe it was 2 billion LY away, and some light started out towards us at, of course, the speed of light. But the distance between us increased at almost the speed of light, because of the creation of new space, so the light is only now reaching us. Visualize the dots on the balloon, and something (light) moving between them at a speed (referred to the balloon surface) that is just slightly faster than the rate at which balloon surface distance appears between them.
As I said, this is a very crude picture. BTW, Hubble’s Law was proposed in 1929, by Edwin Hubble, and was pretty much the first cosmological concept of the modern era. Hubble was able to make distance estimates of galaxies because of about twenty years of prior work by Henrietta Swan Levitt, who doesn’t have any telescopes named after her.
strangelet
because of about twenty years of prior work by Henrietta Swan Levitt, who doesn’t have any telescopes named after her.
Figures, doesn’t it?
New thread on Flood Relief, BTW!
ripley ct, quiltak sandra, co almost native—yes i will read,read&read. i am thinking of changing my name to ‘grass hopper.’ it suits me better than bubbles. my thyroid is dead. they gave me radiation so now i take the replacement.two months ago i was diagnosed with arthritis in the shoulders[which is why i need to build muscles there] and fibromyalgia. also i lost a kidney when i was young so i have be careful about vitamin therapy. thank you for uplifting and supporting me. i will never forget and will always uplift and support you…love.. grasshopper
Say no to Palin: You say it’s right that Palin not support Bristol, but I disagree.
It is Sarah’s fault that Bristol was brought up to pretend she won’t have sex, not get birth control because that would be admitting intent, and then doing it anyway.
I hold Sarah Liable for this and she owes her.
Strangelet – Thanks for the great explanation. makes sense to me (it was I who offered the balloon analogy, but I didn’t put the rest of it together). I’ve wondered if space didn’t expand at greater than the speed of light initially, as the size of the universe at a fraction of a second is much greater than 186,000miles. So I wasn’t sure if space was expanding at a greater speed, or if the big bang involved some simultaneous creation over a greater area than the unit point of a big bang as it’s sometimes presented. (Those physics classes were a very, very long time ago).
So what’s the explanation for the initial size of the cosmos so soon after the big bang?
bubbles aka grasshopper,
I was less than 6 months away from a wheel chair (arthritis) when I discovered something called “CMO” (Cetyl Myristoleate – sp?). Sooo much improvement, no wheelchair for me, no sirree! Google it! Really.
Nan
nan; googling now..b
89 InJuneau Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Figures, doesn’t it?
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Well, yeah. That’s why I mentioned it. I want to be clear that I’m not dissing Hubble. He (and his team) did years of observations, and Hubble’s Law was more than a little controversial when first proposed. They used Levitt’s discovery of the periodicity-brightness relation of Cepheid variables to estimate galactic distances, but that is how science works.
Unfortunately, another way science worked before (at least) the latter part of the 20th century is if you were a female scientist not named Marie Curie, nobody’s ever heard of you.
Bubbles, Ripley, et al
What’s this about hypothyroidism and vitamin D? I’ve taken synthroid for 15 years or so, and have have had SAD since I was 12 or so. Have tried Rx antidepressants and St. Johnswort for it, but this last winter took vitamin D, and it revolutionized my life. My doctor says she used to work for a guy who thought vitamin D was the answer to everything. But I didn’t realize there was a connection to the hypothyroidism.
My naturapath thought some neurological symptoms were Mg deficiency, though that seems not to have been entirely the case.
Tell me more.
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TBNTJudy Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Now, honestyinGov, please don’t bring the poor little sea urchin into this. And, while they may not have a spine like we do, they do have many protective spines externally. I might be tempted to compare Beck to a snake, but, alas, I like them, too.
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Yeah…. it was nothing personal against the poor sea urchin…. but the analogy seemed to fit.
And I would never compare Beck to a snake. I ‘love’ snakes. As a kid growing up in So. Florida ,before it got developed, we could catch and collect our own ‘pets’ for free. we caught them all. Garter snakes, ribbon snakes, water snakes, black racers,corn snakes, tiny little ring necks (no more than 6 inches long) and my favorite a Yellow Rat Snake (about 3 foot long) that was the same vibrant yellow as as AKM’s mudboots. Being a boa constrictor he would just wrap around your arm and you could ride your bike all over town. Seeing as he never moved… many people wouldn’t notice till they got reeeeeeal close.
Kept them all in a big long looking coffin shaped box that sat along the side of the house.
I’m sure my Mom loved it too.
A picture of my Friend.
http://www.wildflorida.com/wildlife/snakes/images/yellowratsnake463.jpg
Lemonfair:
Vitamin D3 is what my endocrinologist proscribes and prescribes. He’s the top in his field: other endocrinologists go to HIM. He’s well versed in all things and very much ahead of the curve for new stuff. SAD will be affected positively by proper D3 supplementation. The current blood tests are inaccurate, but at least they tell you if your levels are going up or down. They ALWAYS go down in the winter if you don’t live in the tropics. I’m on 4000mg a day in the winter and 2000 mg a day when the days lengthen. The research is catching up with this line of thinking. Finally. And they are finally bringing down the TSH “normal” value after years of too high being ok. If I’m above 1.5 on my TSH, I feel rotten. My thyroid kicks in once in a while and then I’m too low. But I regulate my medication with monthly bloodwork! I hate it, but it helps keep track. There is new information about Mg and Calcuim together, too. Mostly, there is new stuff coming out all the time. Read. Educate yourself so that when you see the doctor, you can have intelligent conversation about your health. Never self-medicate, especially with a diagnosed condition. BUT, if you’re not happy with your doc, then change. Find someone who is learning the new stuff. Avoid the ones stuck in what they “know”. Because more and more, it’s what they “KNEW”.
austintx – are you out there, you will like this one, right wing radio jock gets waterboarded to prove it’s not torture – ***snort!***
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/radio-host-gets-waterboarded/change-of-heart/?cid=cs:headline6
No details yet…. But
Shannyn has posted something about a half hour ago on her blog..
“Senator Bill WielechowWIEski will be on Neil Cavuto -Fox News today…yes…”
I’m guessing they will be talking about Money, Vetos and ‘imaginary strings’…
honestyinGov: Nice pic. I grew up in MS where we, too, had many snakes. It’s amazing that we were never bitten because we were constantly playing in the woods. I never had any as pets, but I have always been curious about them.
As for Beck, I’m tempted to compare him to poison ivy; some people have immune tolerance for it, but most do not.
93 lemonfair Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 11:58 AM :
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Aha! You have discovered “inflation”. This supposes that for some relatively short period after the Big Bang, space did expand very, very rapidly, such that things got farther apart as if they were moving much, much faster than the speed of light. Even though, strictly speaking, they weren’t exactly “moving”.
Something like inflation is needed to explain the observed uniformity of the “cosmic microwave background radiation”. It turns out that wherever you point a radiotelescope, it detects (among other things) a background level of radiation in the microwave range that is believed to be the very first radiation in the universe the leftovers of the Big Bang). It’s microwaves when it reaches us because the source is receding at very near the speed of light, so the radiation is shifted down in frequency by the Doppler effect (why the train whistle going away goes down in tone).
Problem: the background is extremely uniform — it looks exactly the same everywhere in the sky. If space has been expanding uniformly since the big bang, parts of it are farther apart from each other than the distance that light could have crossed during the time since the BB. These parts can’t have “communicated” with each other, so they should have evolved separately, and the CMB shouldn’t be homogeneous.
Possible solution: “Inflation”. At the BB, everything is in the same place, so homogeneous. For a while, space expands at an even more inconceivable rate than the speed of light — inflation. At the end of the inflationary period, the universe is already pretty big, and parts of it will never be able to communicate with other parts, but it is still very homogeneous because not enough time has elapsed for the different bits to evolve separately. The radiation from that period, just after inflation, is what we see as the CMB.
Further problems: well, there are some, but let’s not go there right now.
Holy Cow! austintx – Kos have found a video of this right wing bloke being waterboarded.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/5/22/734444/-Conservative-radio-host,-Eric-Mancow,-has-himself-waterboarded,-realizes-its-torture.
lemonfair–oh no! not you too. i have gotten more answers today than i have in 15 years. ripley when next you see your endocrinologist please ask him if he knows and trusts a endocrinologist in manhattan. i am not far from beth israel hospital and new york university medical center but i will travel anywhere in the city.—Nan—— thank you, cmo looks promising. i have more reading to do. i appreciate your input…b
104 UK Lady Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Holy Cow! austintx – Kos have found a video of this right wing bloke being waterboarded.
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Thanks for the Daily Beast story link… and just now the Huffpo has the story on the Front page as well…. with some video as well.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/22/mancow-waterboarded-video_n_206906.html
His comments….
“It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that’s no joke,” Mancow said. “It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back… It was instantaneous… and I don’t want to say this: absolutely torture.”
Strangelet –
This has been great fun, and I haven’t ever had an easily understood answer to these questions before. Just one more, if you can stand it.
How good is the “balloon” analogy, in this respect: If my universe is like the skin of a balloon then there are dots on the opposite side of the balloon I can’t see from my dot, because of the curvature of the balloon – whereas that wouldn’t be a problem if we were all inside a sphere. Is that a compounding issue, or do we have access in all directions to information that isn’t too “far” away from us in the way you mentioned above. (Or is this why it’s too far away from us)
Ripley: Are you sure you are taking 2000 to 4000 mg of Vitamin D daily? 25 micrograms is considered toxic and requires close monitoring. Perhaps you are taking 2000 to 4000 IU daily. Check your label.
Bubbles – I don’t see an endocrinologist, just my internist. She generally sends me to specialists at the drop of a hat, but hasn’t ever seen the need to send me to an endocrinologist. (But it was the neurologist who sent me to a naturopath!) I just started getting acute vertigo a couple of months ago and am waiting to see a specialist for that, too – so let me know if you know there’s a connection there. That would be a big surprise.
Just a heads up for everyone. Celtic Diva did a records request with the state and finally heard back. They want to charge her $65,000.00, yes I wrote SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND dollars for that search.
http://www.divasblueoasis.com/diary/628/palins-transparencyforsale-at-what-cost-for-this-alaska-resident-about-65000
Apologies if this has already been mentioned here, just got home from work and haven’t had a chance to catch up yet.
I’m a mailman and the new People magazine came out today. Every time I delivered one, I almost got sick to my stomach. Check out the picture on the front cover:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20280580,00.html
So, that’s what $300,000 buys !
sandra: no worries, I probably just put the wrong dosage abbreviation. I’m educated, as well as in the healing profession.
Lemonfair: if you have a thyroid disorder, you need to see an endocrinologist.
Bubbles: send me a note on the forum with how to contact you. Just do a search for “ripley” and you’ll find me.
uk lady— just looked at mancow getting waterboarded. thanks for the link.wow! i cannot get over what was done in our name. i would love to waterboard cheney,palin, jindal, pelosi ,bush, rice and every other traiter and all their family and associates……………………. please give message to ukman thanking him for the stevie ray vaughn info. i downloaded them and my sister and had a few beers and rocked the house…..love b
I’m going outside to play now…. have a nice evening everyone
Ripley and bubbles, There really is exciting relatively new research about Vitamin D. Here is a link to a Harvard School of Public Health article about D and some current thought on safe levels of intake. As you so aptly pointed out, Ripley, much of what is out there is based on old research.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vitamin-d/
Ripley – thanks for the advice. I’ll take it to heart.
strangelet–yeah, and then there was that woman who was critical to the discovery of DNA (I think of the double helix structure) who got NO credit when the guys got the Nobel Prize…
I’ve been talking with my mom who has been looking into Vit. D for vision issues and talking with her docs about it. Recent research is apparently showing that we can tolerate much higher doses than previously thought and that it’s good for all preventing/treating sorts of things including cancers. The units are in IU though!
Too bad GINO is not a GOP Congressman…. I think she would like this Guy.
Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) is having a hard time getting people to sign on or co-sponsor his bill. He wants to make 2020… year of the Bible.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/22/paul-broun-gop-congressma_n_206631.html
Uhhhh… what about seperation of Church and State… or will Georgia have seceded by then…? To quote Bill Maher… ” New Rules” !
tbnt- thank you for the link. yes i have a lot work to do. wish us all well. i thought i was alone with this problem on mudflats but no, seems i have company.very good company. brilliant company….b
(I oopsed, I put this on the wrong thread so if ya read it twice, I appologize. Did it twice today, lol.)
hmmmmm, yep, things that make ya go hmmmmm……..is this because of the glaring Meg Stapleton connection and poor Scarah’s kinda tired of being picked on, poor thing. Wonder if she’ll choose another boyfriend, lol.
Is Meg in hot water or doesn’t she dare make the statement, lol.
http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2009/05/15/latest_news/8latestnews.txt
“A representative from the governor’s office confirmed Friday that Palin could not attend Founder’s Day, but would not say why.”
“We’re greatly disappointed, considering this is the birthplace of Alaska,” Palesh said. “We understand schedules get pretty tight for governors.”
@118 InJuneau: Did you look at the link I provided on Vit. D? Anyway, to convert I.U. to micrograms, multiply the I.U. by 0.025. So, 1000 I.U. x 0.025 = 25 mcg.
Say NO to Palin in Politics–that was last week’s statement; this week’s is that she IS going; miscommunication problems and all that…
Say NO to PIP
LOL, I think Scarah has said “NO thanks but thanks” since then, that article is a week old, you know that girl can’t keep herself straight for a whole week.
bubbles Says:
May 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 PM
uk lady— just looked at mancow getting waterboarded. thanks for the link.wow! i cannot get over what was done in our name. i would love to waterboard cheney,palin, jindal, pelosi ,bush, rice and every other traiter and all their family and associates……………………. please give message to ukman thanking him for the stevie ray vaughn info. i downloaded them and my sister and had a few beers and rocked the house…..love b
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Bubbles,
everyone BUT Pelosi! She is being thrown under the bus by Faux news and the repugs, to get the heat off Cheney & Co.
Brain Scientist Jill Bolte Taylor ‘s Stroke of Insight Speech.
This is awesome. Really makes you think what’s all out there in this massive universe of ours.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/lang/eng/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html
UK Lady – Thanks for the link. Yup , looks like torture to me. Did you send bubbles the picture of the SRV statue ??
bubbles – Is what you mean…………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wD-vv1sRU
Well now this is a precious bit of info on why GINO might have declined the energy stimulus $ (from KINY radio):
When asked about the Governor’s building code concern, Egan said many Alaska communities have already adopted building codes.
When asked about the Governor’s hometown of Wasilla, Egan said a preliminary examination reveals that Wasilla is one of the few communities in the state that doesn’t comply.
austintx – funny quote on Kos – “table for one Mr. Hannity?”
I just told bubbles about Lenny and Pride and Joy, I think she downloaded them.
Enjoy bubbles, UKMAN is glad you liked them.
New thread about ghosts…oops, ghostwriters!
okay……what the heck is going on…..May 15th it’s confirmed by Scarah’s office she is not going………May 21 Meg says Scarah is going to Auburn, NY.
Why the switch in plans……the book deal? does she need a state paid trip to meet with them? June 6th is 2 wks away.
Got a kick out the term “nongovernment matters”…….try mixing that with state business, lol…….silly girl.
Is she is or is she not……..
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2009/05/palin_agrees_to_come_to_auburn.html
Auburn’s Meghan Stapleton, Palin’s former press secretary who continues to work for her as a spokesman in nongovernment matters, confirmed the visit with Auburn officials in recent days.
Gawd…….Injuneau, lol……..I can’t keep up with all the AK blogosphere. Just when I think I’ve read everthing, bam, more goes up. It’s all good tho!
i played pipeline and lenny for my sister and just checked the link above. wooweee austin, rockin in the house is GREAT.thank you and ukman for steering me in the direction of SRV. really good stuff…love b
IN Juneau……..oh yes, you “know” how deep small town ties go, Toad knows everyone, those buddies that helped build their house with no building permits, LOL, heck, people who like to do things “their way” don’t like gov telling them what to do, buyer beware!
And yeah, har har to Scarah who says it should be handled on a state and community level, she has balls saying that, what the heck has she done since city council, Mayor of Wassily to AK gov to put “any” building codes in place. Nada as far as I know, except to remove them and not adhere to them in order to benefit herself, lol.
I think she’s taking a risk talking out of both sides of her mouth.
“When asked about the Governor’s hometown of Wasilla, Egan said a preliminary examination reveals that Wasilla is one of the few communities in the state that doesn’t comply.”
Yes CRock……isn’t that amazing!
Brain Scientist Jill Bolte Taylor ’s Stroke of Insight Speech.
This is awesome. Really makes you think what’s all out there in this massive universe of ours.
NYDem………..poor thing, you were tortured in the name of Scarah, lol. Go look at a flower.
“I’m a mailman and the new People magazine came out today. Every time I delivered one, I almost got sick to my stomach. Check out the picture on the front cover:”
Check out the news on the resignation of most of the directors of the Greater Wasilla Chamber of Commerce on Palingates. Regina has also put up a hokey video from SP’s inaugeral ball. Fun to recognize people we’ve come to know.
Okay, lol, this is their payback, fightback…….but how legal is it? I’m SURE they’ve got some little loophole spin they’ve dug and dug for……..part of the legal fee’s ya think? to dig and dig for “anything” that can possibly be used in Scarah’s defense.
They know this info will hit the fan, they must have “something” ready to use in rebuttal or it wouldn’t have been released to Diva……..gosh, more popcorn.
“Just a heads up for everyone. Celtic Diva did a records request with the state and finally heard back. They want to charge her $65,000.00, yes I wrote SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND dollars for that search.”
@lemonfair: When you are doing the balloon analogy, you have to remember that the two dimensional surface of the balloon IS your two dimensional space. (You are a really flat two-dimensional person on the surface).
So light, and anything else, moves on the surface, and you can see the “other side” of the balloon — draw a line on the surface of the balloon, that’s how the light goes. Except, of course, that the balloon is too big for light to have gotten here yet, but that’s a detail.
This of course leads to the idea that if you had a big enough telescope, you could see the back of your own head. That’s not quite true, since light only moves at the speed of light. Possibly, if someone is standing in the same spot with a big enough telescope 25 or 30 billion years from now, they will be able to see the back of your head as it is now. I wouldn’t worry about it.
Re: Waterboarding Mancow.
Mancow used to be on the air here in the Bay Area, and as I recall — never actually having listened to him — he was mostly a rude-boy Howard Stern wannabe at the time, rather than a “right-wing” jock.
I wanna see a real winger do it (hello, Sean; hello, Glenn — is Mancow braver than you).
Watched the Mancow video, but still holding out for Hannity. Done by Jesse Ventura.
I saw an endocrinologist. Who then told me natural thyroid was unreliable, yadda yadda, doesn’t prescribe it, blah blah.
I think I’m going to have to go outside my HMO to find a Dr that will prescribe me natural thyroid. Kaiser only does Synthroid and generic.
@Injuneau:
While it is true that Crick and Watson basically stole Rosalind Franklin’s X-ray crystallographic work to come up with the double-helix, her contribution is actually pretty well known. I’m reasonably sure she would have shared the Nobel if it were not for the rule that the prize is never awarded posthumously.
Strangelet, that may be so but according to the Daily Kos peeps (linked above), Mancow has been bleating for months that waterboarding is not torture. At least he put his money where his mouth is, which is more than can be said for Hannity, Cheney (father and daughter) , Rove, Billo etc.
Check the dress worn by Cindy McCain to her son’s graduation from the U.S. Naval Academy today. UGLY. Give thought of the price tag of this rag. To me it’s horrible.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/22/obama-jack-mccain-embrace_n_206834.html
Oh wow, that dress is a doozy!
oops, html error…
Now that dress is just Fugly.
Oh, my.
It looks kind of like a 1920′s version of a Gay Nineties (1890′s) redo of a Victorian era nod to the Regency period.
And if you followed all that, you’re probably in a world of hurt.
@strangelet
Thanks. got it. You’re very good.
UK Lady,
I’m with you. Mancow (what a name!) really did put his money where his mouth is. I give him full points too, for saying right out there in front of everyone that omigawd, this IS torture. And even bringing up his own near-drowning as a kid.
Maybe Olberman will give that 1K per second to Mancow’s charity of choice instead of Hannity (since Hannity seems to have forgotten all about his volunteering for waterboarding).
Nan Says:
Oh, my.
It looks kind of like a 1920’s version of a Gay Nineties (1890’s) redo of a Victorian era nod to the Regency period.
And if you followed all that, you’re probably in a world of hurt.
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PMPL!!!!! Excellent!!!
I read the sentence 3 times with a totally confused look on my face. Then I read your last sentence.
You Bum You!!!
ROFL Canadian Neighbour (remembering “u” lol)
Why, thank you for noticing… I’ve been studying obfuscation from hubby and from SP’s speeches (not!)
It is possible (I think – and only barely) to follow that sentence, but it’s so not worth the effort!
Hey, glad it brought some giggles to your day, we need all of those we can get, eh?
Nan
I haven’t had a chance to read yet all these comments….has anyone seen the inside pictures & quotes of Bristol’s, People Magazine exclusive?
DAYMN, they hate Palin!!!!
The only picture of her is a profile adjusting Bristol’s, graduation cap & gown. Looking, haggard, old, with four chins and way to much clown make up. The inside story, Bristol, says her FATHER is the one who taught her how to swaddle a baby & babysits (Hilariously this quote is right after Palin claims she sits listening to the baby scream at night & holding herself back from “Rescuing”, Bristol.) Then there is a subtle disclaimer Bristol, claims her GPA is 2 points from honors of a 4.0 but that it is not verified.
I am loving the pictures of Bristol on the floor carefree watching television holding Tripp, while, Todd, is on the chair behind her holding, Trigg and they are smiling/laughing. Hard life much? Do not think so. This tabloid stunt is so backfiring. I asked someone what they thought of the spread while in line at Safeway. The lady said despicable flaunting.
re: dress………No offense UK Lady , but don’t the gal’s wear stuff like that at the horse races in England ??
austintx,
Just think, there is some bozo designed making mega bucks for that as it is Cindy McCain who prances around in multi thousand $$$ dresses. You can be sure there is no clothing with the label from the online store Michelle Obama shops at — which outfits I like what Michelle has worn!!
I became attached to this blog, not only because of akm’s writing styles, the comments, but the Categories: eyerollery, numbskullery, and tomfoollery. lol. I love those categories, they crack me up every time, and I look forward everyday to see what categories are used.
Brava AKM!!!
Hmmm, and you thought AK had some of the looniest GOP’ers. Take a read of this guy from GA (yeah…my personal NON-redneck area of the woods).
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22832.html
Lawmaker wants to make 2010 ‘Year of the Bible’
When the clock strikes midnight on Dec. 31, 2009, Rep. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) hopes you’ll be ringing in “the Year of the Bible.”
It’s probably just wishful thinking.
Broun’s simple congressional resolution aimed at honoring the Good Book has produced a push-back of biblical proportion in the blogosphere, with critics dismissing it as either unconstitutional or a waste of time. Jews in Congress and atheist activists are dismissing the resolution, while none of the many Democrats in Congress who are Christian have bothered to sign on as co-sponsors.
119 honestyinGov Says: May 22nd, 2009 at 1:50 PM
…year of the Bible.
Whoops, I see someone already did a post on this Broun fellow, but didn’t link to the full Politico article, just the HP short article with comments…
A caution to everyone involved in the medical/vitamin D/thyroid discussions.
Before you do anything, please have your dr. run these 2 blood tests:
cortisol (stress levels) and A1C (diabetes).
Trust me on this….my cortisol stress level created havoc with my entire endocrine system (which includes not only the thyroid, but also the pancreas and adrenal glands), and after receiving synthroid to elevate my thyroid function, it turns out that that medicine did far more harm than good. While my body was demanding a reduction in stress and an increase in rest, the synthroid was trying to perk me up thru an increased in thyroid function. B-A-D N-E-W-S!
It was only after passing out while driving (no one was hurt, not even my CRV – don’t ask me how that was avoided!), that someone decided to run those 2 tests after listening to what I was saying on behalf of my body.
Have had 3 years of my life disrupted because something that should have been done upfront but wasn’t – cortisol & A1C – could have helped resolve my problem. The stress has gone away (of course, quitting the job that led to the stress problems did help significantly), and my A1C has dropped down low enough that I no longer am on an active watch for diabetes (was diagnosed as pre-diabetic).
Get those tests done. Even if you don’t think you have stress, stress factors are hammering away at you.
Good luck!
I just wanted to say what a great picture and comment posted. It inspired me to go to the internets tonight and find all kinds of beautiful pictures and informative “stuff”. I love this site. You never know where it might send your curiosity and sense of adventure. That picture is mind blowing both in beauty and introspection.
pepperzmom- thank you. yes i will be very careful. will see an endocrinologist before i take any action. i wouldn’t want to skew blood tests by self medicating….much love..b
@UKLady:
Sort of a late reply, but if you see this — I’m not surprised if Mancow insisted waterboarding wasn’t torture, because that would be in line with his anti-PC shtick. I’m also not surprised that he went through with it, because he also showed “Jackass” tendencies.
I just don’t want the winger-media to be able to claim that one of them got waterboarded. I wanna see Hannity and Beck and Limbo.
Hell, I’ll be gender-neutral: waterboard Malkin and Coulter and get their reaction.
BTW, I appreciate the sub-thread on thyroid/Vitamin D/cortisol/etc.
I, too, have autoimmune hypothyroidism (well, really zero-thyroidism). I’ve just been taking my levothyroxine for fifteen years or so. I had no idea there were so many potential interactions. I did start 1000 IU of D during the winter a couple of years ago (being that I’m reluctantly turning into a senior citizen).
After reading these comments, I plan to do a bit of research before my next physical. I like to give my doc a surprise question when I can, although I have to admit that so far he’s been able to demonstrate that he already knew about my concern and explain why it didn’t actually apply to me. Actually, I think he looks forward to it.
Hey, when you’re old you take what entertainment you can get.
As I have posted, please see a doctor if you have any questions. There is new information coming out all the time, and the link someone posted to Harvard is right on track. Especially the stuff in the box to the right.
A good endocrinologist will check cortisol levels as a matter of course (adrenal function), as well as the proper function of the parathyroid glands. They will also send you to an ultrasound specialist, one who reads the thyroid with precision. Not just the tech at the local hospital. A good doctor will rule out all things. They will also have you get the bloodtest for the antibodies your body might be producing against your own thyroid. To see if it’s autoimmune. There is no reason for people to be in the dark here. Read. Read, then read some more. The internet is at your disposal. Be cautious, however, and don’t scare yourself into thinking that you have every disease they talk about! Just know what tests exist and what changes you can make in your lifestyle to improve your health. I can tell you from experience that changing to a more vegetarian diet can change your life. There is not one cure-all for Thyroid disease. But it is very interesting that it is becoming nearly epidemic. Makes me wonder what we are doing to ourselves that is causing our collective thyroids to fail. I blame fast food, too many x-rays (ie: dental), and processed food. But that’s just my opinion, so I avoid as many of them as I can.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/vitamin-d/
for those who missed it.
Ripley, as you probably already know, there is significant interest in the role that low Vitamin D status might play in autoimmune diseases, as well as cancer. There is also some evidence that low Vitamin D status might be the result of these conditions rather than the cause, and D supplements might exacerbate them. Thus far, I think the body of evidence supports the first premise. Only time and corroborating research will tell.
I think that the role of diet in these diseases (and many others) will continue to be elucidated as we go forward. Sometimes it is hard for people to grasp that something seemingly as simple as good nutrition, or lack thereof, may play a significant role in our health.
I posted that link to the Harvard site because I like their no-nonsense approach to nutrition and other health issues. I also like the fact that they do not buy into the USDA Food Pyramid Guide, and like Marion Nestle of New York University, they clearly state the reasons they find fault with the pyramid.
Well said Ripley – Thanks!
I’ll second that! What we eat is of utmost importance for our health. We’re all different but I can say that 15 years ago I would have laughed at you if you told me that one day I would be advocating for a mostly raw/vegetarian lifestyle! I would just love it if when people went to the doctor the first part of any treatment would be with a nutritionist (I’m not one – I just think it’s that important) The complexities of vitamins, amino acids, enzymes, minerals and all that stuff is amazing! My opinion is that if things go wrong in our bodies somewhere along the line it has to do with what we have or have not put in our bodies (from nutrients to toxic chemicals). We need to do all we can to help it heal and keep ourselves healthy (and yes to me that means includung the occasional “indulgences”!) Best Advice – Read, Read, Read!!! Is everyone getting tired of hearing that yet?
My motto – read it somewhere and I don’t know who to atribute it to- If you don’t take care if your body where else are you going to live!
Nan – Thanks! CMO looks very promising – still reading, though!
Good point TBNT Judy!
I’m getting dangerously close to the soap box so I’ll back away now!
@QuiltAK, Thanks! You probably cannot tell that I am standing on my box
In relation to the original topic of this post. I have a daughter (11) who is an absolute space nut! I think it is absolutely amazing and beautiful and it reminds of how complex everything is. But you lose me when you start talking about all the physics and stuff. The night before this post we were watching the Universe and talking about Hubble. I got to witness a lightbulb go off in her head. She never had an interest to grow up and be an Astronaut or Astronomer (she was going to be a pastry chef). During our conversation I (without realizing it) mentioned the magic word – Astrophysicist! The past few days have been nothing but “Mom, I just don’t know if I should be an astrophycist or pastry chef!” Of course, the correct answer is you’ve got a lot of time yet to explore your options and be what you want to be. But to her this is pressing! Forgive me a little parental bragging but since she is already doing high school algebra (quadratic equations are really, really fun, mom!) I think she could really do it and love it. But she’s got lots of time. Anyway, it’s just a lot of fun to watch her be so excited! She was going to set her alarm and watch the landing. She’s not up yet so I don’t know if she did or not but I’m sure I’m probably in for another day of pulsar and quasar discussions and endless space facts!
TBNTJudy,
LOL. They’re good boxes to be on though! at least I think!
QuiltAK, what a great post about your daughter. Imagine the possibilities: pastry chef….astrophysicist. I think she could be the astrophysicist and in her spare time, she could make pastries for YOU, mom!
I really have enjoyed the discussions about the physics, but my understanding is just rudimentary. Since my little brain seems to be finite, it is quite hard to get my mind around the concept of the universe as something expanding into nothing.
“Once you can accept the universe as matter expanding into nothing that is something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easy”
Albert Einstein
TBNTJudy,
Thanks! Love the Einstein quote. Almost makes my head hurt!