News from Assembly Meeting.
Not good news. Prevo’s army is out in force. Bussed in from the Valley. Sea of red shirts coming to rail against civil rights of Alaskans. Please come if you can to show your support. Wear anything but red…
Loussac Library Assembly chambers.
Wish I could be there….
BigSlick..Me too
Me, too. It’s obvious they’re not asking themselves, “What would Jesus do?”
I wish I could fly up and give you a show of support.
Dang it !! I wanted to go with Ripley and problem child. Hang tuff up there guys.
I just got a picture in my mind of the Church folks who arrived in number to nail Jesus to the Cross. Yes, it was nuts like these. Don’t they get that?
Another sad day up there in Anchor town. I too wishing I could be there to help! Courage, all…!
A decent Governor would make a statement regarding this push for further discrimination – but she is too worried about what to wear, how mean Letterman is, what the Tabloids will say about her next week ……..
Sitting here in CT and shaking my head.
Why, why, why can these nutcase religious zealots determine public policy?
I am saddened beyond belief.
Smart words beat ignorant masses. Thinking of you folks!!
Is there an email address that we can all send our comments? Virtual participation would be a good thing. Can someone there find out?
The vote may still go well. Don’t lose hope.
What does this have to do with the Valley people? They don’t live in Anchorage.
Keeping fingers crossed, AKM.
Obviously Prevo’s Mob does not read the New Testament, just cherry-picks passages from the Old. If his followers believed it literally, they would be stoning all adulterers…
Sending good vibes and warm hugs to Anchorage- we have your backs.
I’d be there, but KY is a little far. Hope to send some positive vibes.
On ADN web site: 180 signed up to speak, and all will get 3 minutes each. Could be a long night at the Assembly meeting-
CO almost native Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Obviously Prevo’s Mob does not read the New Testament, just cherry-picks passages from the Old. If his followers believed it literally, they would be stoning all adulterers…
Don’t give them any ideas. If they get away with this, there will be no bounds regarding their efforts to impose biblical law. The American Taliban is here, hiding their bigotry, hatred, and violence behind a cross. Needs to be Federal laws in place to protect the LGBT persons.
Isn’t funny how these are the same people who rail the loudest against “Islamic Extremeists” when the plain truth is they are the American Taliban?
Sickening.
@ CO almost native,
If they started stoning adulterers, they would lose at least one of their 2012 Presidential front runners.
Newtie is a 2x breaker of the 7th Commandment. Funny how the Catholic Church was happy to overlook that fact and went ahead and let him convert recently (at the behest of his 2nd mistress/3rd wife– an apparently very ‘pious’ woman.) ***puke***
The hypocrisy is almost too much to believe, isn’t it?
GDI, Ripley, austintx, when is the next fricken flight? I/We need to make it up there in time for Babble Service on Sunday!
On a serious note, I hope that the silent (immoral) majority will prevail. I’m pretty sure the council people have for the most part already decided.
Gryphen has an AMA
Holding good thoughts for the good guys – the ones that like other people. Remember – on Star Trek, the red shirts never make it to the end of the episode!
my Z is stuck… AMAZING, very personal, post on this topic.
Sounds like the haters are so filled with bile that not only are their faces red, but their shirts as well. Tell ‘em all to go to hell.
lol, Martha! That was my thought when I read “red shirts.”
I can’t understand why people just don’t understand that this country has a separation between church and state. It’s pretty simple–and it protects both church and state as institutions, as well as individuals.
holding virtual hands with my fellow mudpups who can’t be there and sending positive thoughts.
@weaver57:
So nice to see another Kentuckian here!
Sending good thoughts. Illegitimis nil carborundum (Don’t let the b**tards get you down!). Be strong. From all over the world we’re with you.
taking hold of just a farmers hand from here in california
Holding justafarmer’s hand here in New York.
Just a farmer..I’m in…..from ca.
Just a farmer I’m in from West Central Florida.
joining just a farmer and the rest of the circle, extending hands from Los Angeles.
ok, now all together….
kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya
(just had to do it. my bad)
You sure they haven’t bussed in Mormons from Utah? That’s what they did in California.
@ fawnskin
I LOVE kumbaya – our dad used to run a summer camp in the Sierras and we totally sapped out and sang this at every group campfire which I remember! It’s powerful and I don’t care a whit if someone makes fun of me for loving it!
Count me in the virtual hand holding circle, from Boston. Justafarmer is either an octopus or has run out of hands, so I’ll take hold of LiladyNY’s hand
I wonder if that woman who called Shannyn the other nite is there ?? She was so filled with hate and misery.
smiling at fawnskin!
Thanks all, looks like we’ve got a circle happening!
~~~ humming kumbaya ~~~
while still sending positive vibes to Anchorage
Bea Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Isn’t funny how these are the same people who rail the loudest against “Islamic Extremeists” when the plain truth is they are the American Taliban?
Sickening.
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And the guy’s that scream the VERY loudest are the ones that will someday be texting our teenage sons sexy messages and photos of themselves in lingerie, or looking for hookups in airport bathrooms, all the while denying that part of their existence.
This hearing is streaming LIVE right now!
http://anchorageak.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&event_id=38
audio and video is good – people are giving testimony. must see.
they just said they want to limit the testimony to people in anchorage, loud applause for the motion, but MOTION DENIED – the bussed in red shirts WILL be allowed to speak, dang it
still arguing about why bussed in people should be allowed to speak when this is an ANCHORAGE deal.
so wrong to allow non residents to speak.’
Not giving up hope for civil rights for all in Anchorage.
At the risk of being overly optimistic….all those valley redshirts will be hearing the testimony of those supporting the ordinance and exposing their preacher/s lies. It will give them something to ponder and possibly be an eye-opening experience.
Well, maybe they’ll let the bussed in religulous speak, but not take them into consderation when they make their decisions. That’s what I’m hoping for…..
bubbles checking in and joining hands with lilady ny. hey everyone.
Unbelieveable, nonresidents get to speak!!!! Joins in hand holding for support
Grrrr, my sound is gone on my puter. I can’t listen.
lori, Thanks for the play-by-play. I don’t have the heart to watch or listen. I am maxed out on listening to people who make no sense.
unbelievable that non-constituents are allowed to speak on a local ordinance!
~~~ holding hands tighter ~~~
hey bubbles. ck. your e-mail later. non-residents should have one spokesman. period.
the guy speaking now is from the anchorage equal rights commission (mr. Bower) he is good. is anyone listening to the hearing with me? hello?
I doubt this item will get decided tonite, after hearing the fellow from the Equal Rights Commission’s statements.
wish I could listen in, connection here i the backwoods is slooooow… it keeps buffering.
When I try to link it says something about the maximum number of connections being full or something…
i=in
grrr…even my keyboard is slow tonight… or I’m running out of hands!
Lori – I got the link……but I was watching/hearing about veterans discrimination ?? I only saw a couple of red shirts in the background.
here is donna from anchorage, who has “issues with this” and claims to have gay and lesbian friends, yeah sure……….but she is a CHRISTIAN, cannot support………..thinks there is no problem with discrimination in the community……..
thanks Lori! I just lost the connection completely.
56 Suchanut Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 8:06 PM
When I try to link it says something about the maximum number of connections being full or something…
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Yeah…….on the right side of my screen that along with a small box on the left with what I mentioned above ????
Lori in Los Angeles….I’m listening! I can’t believe they are letting non-residents spam this thing!
very moving statement from a transexual – excluded from health care, fired from job, abused …………
Suchanut Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 8:06 PM
When I try to link it says something about the maximum number of connections being full or something…
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I did read on the site earlier that it was being broadcast on Channel 10, if that means anything to you.
this young mom is good. her little girl wanted to wear boys clothes and play ith boys toys – this mom raised Christian was fighting it, now points out:
“Why would anyone CHOOSE this?” good lessons she learned from her little girl …………………
Yikes – the red shirts are streaming in……..
oops, I did a swear word and went to spam………….oh “shoot” red shirts just marched into room en masse!
Mike is good…….
great speaker, calls the arguments against anti-discrimination ordinance absolutely ABSURD!
about equal rights for everyone, nothing else. those who oppose are on side of hatred and unfairness. yaay.
Joining in the virtual circle of holding hands here in California and holding onto optimism.
yes austin, mike was great. the chairwoman is a b*tch. she keeps telling everyone not to clap – they clapped loud for mike, lol.
Oh boy — A pre-op named Piper…….not kidding folks….
link to the live video for those who have just arrived:
http://anchorageak.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&event_id=38
austin, it’s you and me – mudpup journalists for this event.
the chairwoman only tells the people clapping for those in favor of the ordinance to stop clapping.
at least that’s what i’ve observed.
chairwoman called the next names – red shirts coming, d a m n
ty Lori & austin!
b4 red shirts we have a pastor, I think he is on the right side – says “Love casts out all fear.” He is urging support.
i love the pastor
a pastor……he is good…….equal rights……healthy community..
I am amazed that people subject their kids to this type of environment.
I happily take a hand in support of equal rights for all. Most people I know whether they be straight,gay,bi,black,white,….all want the same things – a decent job, a decent place to live….and love without fear.
oh this good christian woman is saying all the things that any real christian should believe.
i adore her
who is this lady – austin? I missed her name………..wow (not a red shirt, quite the opposite)
fawnskin, who is she? did you get her name? talk about a true Christian, she is amazing
Mary – Christian , mother , grandmother……..articulate…..freedom for all……..she is good.
Mary Carpenter
After listening to several of the speakers they all seem very brillant, how did you end up with “Gino” as your governor up there?
now this fellow just does not make sense.
he’s saying that unless the gays are black they have no right to equal rights.
pffft……..black dude comparing civil rights and civil liberties…….not the same he says
red shirt is up! says the bible says that Jesus says “homosexuality is wrong” and this is the truth of the bible…..um, cannot find this in my bible.
likes words like “unacceptable” and “wrong”
double pfffft on this red shirt
fellow redshirts are clapping and WHOOPING for the bible thumper
ok, i forgive the chairwoman. she tried to shut up the red shirts.
Holding hands from Maui….. Humming Kumbaya…. Sending positive vibes!
bla blah blah red shirt……..bible sez……..bible sez…..
well, their opinion will mostly be “it’s in the Bible” without any real argument to back it up, as if “it’s in the Bible” is THE ANSWER and END OF DISCUSSION.
[sorry for the all caps there]
this guy won’t get to his point, he is spending LOTS of time buttering up the panel, hat is up with that?
welcome to the hand-holding circle, califpat and Kat!
this guy is a goofy-ass………talking in circles cig. break.
aha, he says it is happening too fast – what is the rush to do this?
this guy is past his three minutes?
anchorage city church (1000 members) pastor up now. no red shirt, do we dare hope?
Thanks Justafarmer! Can’t listen because of connections being full so I’m spending my time refreshing the screen. Thanks to all for listening & reporting for us.
no hope here
a red shirt wearing a black shirt………he spent too much time being a suck-ass……..move along chump.
wow, could this be the fastest growing thread ever in the blog? 100+ comments in three hours!
nope, no luck – he says the ordinance will DIVIDE the community. Ordinance may result in costly litigation. No benefit in rushing this into la, blah blah blah.
haaaaaaa – he is called back for a question and his is stumbling BADLY
interesting……..chump has been called back for a question
ok chump is willing to participate in a discussion……..hey ok
i truly do not like this swarmy fellow.
thanks for being our voice,also can not long on.
eeew, he is icky
here we go – this guy says people will be FORCED to do awful deeds if this is passed, i.e. a photographer who does not accept a job to photo a gay wedding will be SUED and ruined – unless we continue to discriminate.
he is a weasel in a suit…….
here is Stacy “I am a dyke” up now – go girl
unfortunatley the gay folks are so emotionally invested in their inequality that their ability to express a good argument is limited.
I like her, she is IN anchorage.
Sounds like her shrink is homophoic, needs new doc.
She says she is losing her kids due to her being gay (not clear if that is reason to be honest)
good point fawnskin
a gay woman is telling her story……..very poignant…….really laying her story out………compelling……..she has kids with ex-husband………tuff story.
yes, Stacy was stressed.
mr. red shirt is up, he is soooooo fking proud of himself
his red shirt is a bit hidden under his jacket.
but still red.
ick, this next one. “I don’t come here as a bigot or because I’m afraid…”
Mr. red shirt said he was not bused in.
has a stick up a$$ – says ‘I AM NOT A BIGOT” uh huh. “what is the problem that this is trying to fix?” “We should not encourage aberrant sexual behavior!”
so sayeth this creep.
this guy is a jack-ass
well, cut him off!
i don’t really feel like i live in sin.
but this red shirt says all of us live in sin.
just when i thought i was home free.
oh, the “I fear” argument…sigh
ok, i’m never wearing red again.
red plaid shirt, how do we know what side he is on, lol……. here he goes, full of fear………..there is a theme now, that giving equal rights will create lawsuits, this is ther meme, they got it down pat.
paul bunyon flannel red shirt……..quoting the bible…oh good he’s gone
ok, this guy’s name is Sergei but I can’t figure out anything else he’s saying.
this guy is from wasilla
is this new redshirt drunk? oh, nope – he is from Russia? bussed in from another Country??
apparently Sergei is doing standup comedy
is this Borat ??
i want to cut him off myself.
ooh! If you could change your name?
solution ??……..sir-gay was discriminated against……..this guy is whack……….is he Borat ??
I was thinking Borat also too! And he just said he was bussed!
from Israel. I cannot understand much of what he is saying. he wants an extra 3 minutes, he thinks he is movie star. says he as discriminated against on a schoolbus because he has a funny name, give me a break, waste of time.
hahaha, he is admitting he came in on bus with a load of other redshirts.
Borat LOL! at you fello broadcasters
the room has suddenly started to empty!
Offering hand and positive vibes from Seattle. Thanks for keeping us updated, this is tense and I can’t get direct visual.
Sergei said he came from Russia, I thought he said. Was hard to tell, though.
love the concise statement of the last woman
last girl was good.
alaska family council – red shirt up now
I lost my connection so can’t see anymore. Thanks to all you broadcasters! What’s up with this “Borat” guy? Keep up the good reporting!
OMG, this newest red shirt….gack!!!!!
well, I’m speechless listening to this guy
Disco slick needs to move along………..
who needs stinkin’ laws? “we have organizations to deal with this (discrimination). homosexuality is NOT genetic” – so sayeth he – it is a choice, chosen! why the heck would anyone CHOOSE to go though this treatment by their fellow citizens? they gays just need to change their behavior. UGH UGH UGH NEED SHOWER
new guy up. don’t know how to spell his name. The guy in the gray shirt and suspenders
poor white american has no rights he says – cannot understand why the “sick” people get to have rights – keep calling them sick, says they are NOT Gay – gay means happy, no fair! they are SICK people. OMG!
No basis for homosexuality in Human Genome studies. Funny, don’t let reality sitting in the room touch this guy’s opinion.
If ordinance passes, community will go backwards. Okay next!
I’ll call him gramps
some kind of preacher? He’s wearing a stole.
this new guy, he’s wearing a yellow stole over his shoulders. and quoting something.
Freedom of religion, doesn’t mean you get to force your belifs on others. Why don’t these zealots understand this.
david robinson of anchorage is up. points out how unfair it is when he is fired or evicted from his apt. due to someone’s religious beliefs. makes sense.
heretics???
and he’s doing heavy sighs. YIKES!
Why is this even an issue???? This is America, land of the free. I just don’t get it. What are they supposed to go to the island of misfits?? WTF.
oooh!!! this new guy with the red collar…
Do we have blood tests that prove you’re a Christian!!!! (in reference to being born gay or not)
Freedom of religion, doesn’t mean you get to force your belifs on others. Why don’t these zealots understand this.
Welcome to wingnuttia, aka Gooper America.
This town would be a lot better off if Prevo would just spontaneously self combust.
another red shirt…I’m starting to doze off…they all sound the same…
Another fancy Dan in red shirt. Down fall of Rome… predicts the same fate for Anchorage in ordinance passes.
ed singer red shirt now – “values compromised means we cease to be strong and vibrant” cites fall of the Roman Empire – it was due to homosexuality, dontcha know? Unacceptable lifestyle…..blah blah blah. cites Harvy Milk’s murder and sys gays rose up to force themselves onto others. IS HE INSANE?
these people are exhausting me.
and the threat from the last guy
now it’s the alamo, “we will not accept the unacceptable’ says ed.
Oh boy………a history lesson…………draw a line in the sand…oh a veiled threat at election time
The crazy nutters are probably hurting their own cause….tee hee
this lady is good. she says bigotry will not carry the day. amen.
i love her . absolutely love her
think AKM will be surprised we are live-blogging? : )
yes, this lady is excellent! She started off saying she was nervous but she’s kicking in high gear now!
“If Jesus Christ was sitting on your debate, what would he be thinking?”
Will the Christians force homosexuals into the ghettos like Nazis did to the Jews? Good point!
We as a race must always question any action we take when it is born of fear; for fear will inevitibly breed hatred and at times an equal helping of stupidity . Homosexuality has been a part of human society before the advent of fire and it will thrive regardless of bigotry or petty laws long after right wing conservatives are but a historical note in dusty old tomes. Love always finds a way, that is what makes these set backs tolerable for me.
that’s my religion:
tolerance
Man very concerned he can’t be a christian bigot that can discriminate against other people.
ot Talis Colberg has just been elected temp mayor MatSu
this guy is right to bring up the Constitution and separation of Church and State, but he is against this ordinance – I am confused by this guy.
oh,bringing this guy back..
good question from the chairwoman
if it was a person of color…
Man very concerned he can’t be a christian bigot that can discriminate against other people.
Also concerned about his 4 plex which is exempt. Dufus.
Aussie – I wish Talis would talk about what happened with GINO – i wonder if mayoral shoo-in was some kind of trade off.
ok, I can’t make sense of his answer
oh and she also asked him about divorce…and he’s speechless now!
the lady on the panel is very gracious, who is she – anyone know?
I’m tired of the phrase “behaviour issues”……..I like the woman quizzing the opposition………
Lori in Los Angeles Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Aussie – I wish Talis would talk about what happened with GINO – i wonder if mayoral shoo-in was some kind of trade off.
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nah, it’s only until the normal mayoral election comes round, very soon. His vote was over 2500 and the nearest other was 59 – nobody cares, it’s only for a short while
here is Donna in her red shirt – vote against! has nothing to say, really.
I don’t have bandwidth to waste on hate speech, so I stop the broadcast when it happens – more and more now
Aussie and Lori – Shoo in was due to other 6 candidates – more in open thread later.
the lady on the panel is very gracious, who is she – anyone know?
You mean Sheila? http://www.muni.org/assembly2/Selkregg.cfm
here is one from bible camp, a Baptist – he wants to talk about abortion. oy vey.
Marine pastor thinks nothing should be done because there isn’t any problem. Typical DADT position.
Why is this guy talking about abortion?
Good lord, this dude with the ball cap and abortion.
Let me tell ya farmer guy, gays don’t get abortions. Just saying.
I don’t know who that woman on the panel is, I’m assuming she’s the chairwoman, and then there’s an (I assume) an Assemblywoman. They seem to be pretty sharp. When they call back the redshirts, their questions are very to the point, making the speakers back up their statements.
Oh crap, now here’s a guy talking about child molesters….gack!
oh, great.
god made adam and eve.
no one else counts.
Someone should tell this guy that God doesn’t run this country!
Who is the assembly member who keeps asking the questions?
Man is “RED” hat. A pro-life bringing up baby killers. God only made Adam & Eve. So simple, gays don’t exist. He sees the world as black & white,
child molesting, god made adam, god made eve, god made it simple – today it is perverted. everyone has a daddy and a momma. what an ignoramous. “we are talking about sodomy!” this creep says we have a right to be a Christian, we have a right to go to Hell otherwise – stan roach, a roach all right.
GreatGrey…pleze to not say bad things about farmer guys. He was NOT a farmer guy. I’m married to a farmer guy and that guy was not my husband or any of my farmer friends. Just saying with mudpuppy love!
Stan Roach…….all red……..abortionists………vile asshole…..ignorant blowhard………hit it hater……..sodomy….this F^*ker is wearing me out………sodomy again……….
Please don’t think the whole Valley is like bussed red shirts – we have welcoming churches & pastors here, too. Public process means bussed red shirts get to speak – wonder how many work in Anchorage? If they don’t live there or work there they should have stayed home.
gack again!!!! This woman is…I’ll not say anything…except GACK!!!!
Man in red ball cap… states he is a Vietnam Vet and no one is going to dictate what goes on in his church.
Wow, no kidding! I may not make it to the end now, thanks to this a**clown.
It’s 1am in Mexico
so this lady had a five year old child/pupil who was screwed up, and it just HAD to be because the child had homosexual parents…..ugh.
GreatGrey…pleze to not say bad things about farmer guys. He was NOT a farmer guy. I’m married to a farmer guy and that guy was not my husband or any of my farmer friends. Just saying with mudpuppy love!
My apologies, sincerely.
I’ll re-label him as Palinista bigot then, OK
thanks Valley Independent – you are right, this should be for anchorage people, not those bussed in from Valley.
Victor Fisher (I might have spelled his name wrong) but he’s bringing up the Alaska Constitution, which he was part of forumlating.
hugs GreatGrey!
Then he shouldn’t want to dictate what goes on in anyone’s bedroom – much more private than church.
dunno how much longer I will be awake. hoped to hear testimony from akm, diva, shannyn, phil, and other fave bloggers but getting sleepy.
Mr. Fisher says “this is a matter of basic human rights”.
It’s odd how people pick out a group to hate and blame all ills on. Now that it isn’t PC to do it to minorities, they’ve made a new minority. Frankly, I wouldn’t mind if they held this view and were consistent, but they’re not. Yes, the Bible states that homosexuality is wrong. But I haven’t noticed them stoning adulterers and there’s a commandment against adultery. They aren’t falling apart about people using God’s name as a swear word, since that’s a commandment, too. Wonder how many of them have been envious, covetous, or lied abut someone else or advocated killing someone via the death penalty? You don’t get to choose one of the minor rules to enforce and prove that you’re a “real” Christian.
The sad thing about this is.. most of these guys in red shirts are probably looking to get their *ahem* sucked, via craigslist.
This guy is good……..Wasn’t he at the party at Shannyn’s house holding the same copy of the constitution ?? With Brian.
in answer to an assemblywoman he says “there should be no discrimination”
what a wise man is mr fisher
They are showing him the utmost respect…………
Wow. If ignorance is bliss, Prevo’s bunch must already be in heaven.
Fisher, sounds like German saying we have a living Constitution leading towards more freedom and civil rights. Things ordinance is good.
Ordinance doesn’t take any religious rights away as they are protected in Constitution.
and now we have this obtuse man on the Assembly saying “in the absence of clarity and yada yada”
Great answer by Mr. Fisher (Fischer?)
LOL @ Snoskred’s comment! Soooo true.
I like Mr. Fischer who helped write the AK constitution, but i sure wish he would have READ this ordinance before testifying.
he is wonderful!
yes, obtuse man has shown a leaning vetoing.
yes, obtuse man has shown a leaning toward a no vote, i think.
Vic Fisher is a great man.
they are bringing him back again!!!
whoops. almost double post.
read the second.
I think Stan Roach likes sheep.
ooh, I’m looking at the redshirts in the back of the room starting to show angst body language (hands in pockets, arms across chests, etc.)
I noticed that the thugs who were standing in back of room in red shirts (with arms crossed defiantly) seemed to jave left the bldg. back onto bus to pray?
off to meet craigslist “dates” as snoskred suggested?
I dropped by and only had a chance to hear red-shirts talk. At the moments where I felt like laughing because certain arguments and statements were so backward and wrong-headed, were theexact moment that drew applause. And it was as if the more illogical, crazy, inconsistent, non-sequitur the louder they were. I heard nothing that resembled intelligent discourse.
The closest argument to resemble reasonableness was the ordinance was unnecessary because nobody is being discriminated against. So hundreds of people came out waiving, making statements, and over-cheering for hours to prevent something that would do nothing. Don’t pass this because if you do nothing will happen!
can’t hear the redshirt in the cowboy hat…it’s garbled.
just a farmer, oh yes – there they are agin. bathroom break I suppose. were they not scared a person of opposite persuasion might be in the bathroom?
Does any body else remember Fischer at the prty in the pics. ??
party……tired
Lori, look to the upper right hand sign of the screen! Right there in the corner!
is this guy making zero sense or is it me?
just a farmer WHAT is it?
it looks like a very wide redshirt cardboard cutout, but then I saw it move!
http://www.themudflats.net/wp-content/uploads/brianthomvic.jpg
Does any body else remember Fischer at the prty in the pics. ??
austintx – I’m pretty sure I saw him there. Shannyn has a nice pic on her site. Me, I just got his autograph. I’m jealous.
and I have a comment that is completely NOT appropriate for here
the audio is terrible for this lady
yes austin, I remember.
ok. love this lady also
crap…the audio is really bad now. Must be the full moon…
Lady makes point that ordinance supports original purpose of city charter.
oooh! I heard a fart noise!
What happened? Did everyone pass out from the fart noise???
who is this new lady? the one with the yellow piping on her jacket lapels?
justafarmer Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 9:38 PM
I don’t know who that woman on the panel is, I’m assuming she’s the chairwoman, and then there’s an (I assume) an Assemblywoman.
Assembly member profiles can be found here: http://www.muni.org/assembly2/assemblymembers.cfm
Hope this helps.
lol at justafarmer – e know it was YOU and do not ty to blame the dog.
glad I wasn’t the only one who heard the fart noise, seagull!
peweee.
hahahaaa Lori! I always blame the dog!
There was a slow down in posts – I was wondering if anyone was affected!!!! I actually thought you meant it happened in the meeting room!!
Did Prevo place a hex on the mic?
247 Lori in Los Angeles Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 9:58 PM
just a farmer WHAT is it?
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Looks like a native woman from Bolivia or Peru.
how many times can one person say commissioner in one breath.
Oh, do we have another Russian at the mic now?
a pile of shoes??? Did he just asy THAT?
asy=say
Please can people not eat the darned mike when they talk..
a shopping experience???? What is going on there?
Everyone sounds like they are talking in a combination of German, Spanish, and Russian into a styrofoam cup.
seagull, justafarmer was IMPLYING “it” happened in the meeting room, but he was called out on it.
266 Doggonit Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Did Prevo place a hex on the mic?
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It’s every speaker. Too close…….looks like they want to eat the mic.
my bad, this is a woman? the audio is soooo awful.
The Valley has a large contingent of people from the Soviet bloc. The ones I have met tend to be very conservative.
LOL thanks for the clarification!
If God made only Adam and Eve, who did Cain marry? Must have been a sheep. And if Eve had had a choice, she wouldn’t have chosen Adam. He was a major poop. I don’t claim either of them as progenitors. No thanks. God, fortunately, made me better than both of them.
Even if I do say so myself.
you all are doing an amazing job.
much love and luck from KY.
peace
this lady understands God’s love – she should teach the bussed-in folk.
keep in mind, it’s almost 2:30 am here in Kentucky. I should have been in bed hours ago but this is too good to leave (I’ll get hell from hubby in the morning while he’s working in the fields and I’m still blissfully asleep).
i suppose we could start rating the speakers.
this one: 9
See , sound is not as bad on her…….still a bit muffled though.
I turned the sound up on my computer but down on the site player and it seems to have helped
where ate the red shirts?
justafarmer:
im from ky to. nice to see another dem. its rare.
Well, we know that Russian bus drivers with homoerotic names are conservative…
oops.
it’s either who ate the red shirts or where are the red shirts.
your choice
277 ValleyIndependent Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:10 PM
The Valley has a large contingent of people from the Soviet bloc. The ones I have met tend to be very conservative.
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Did you recognize “Borat” ??
Lady says take action on ordinance, it meets intent of original city charter which she was a part of writing.
fawnskin, going with are, who’d eat them, too high in saturated fats
this guy reminds me so much of my hubby : ) what a cutie!
We have modern “Russians” (various bloc countries) and Old Believers where the women dress in long dresses/skirts that traditionally match the man’s shirt – same fabric, lots of embellishment on both. I’d bet we disagree on this issue – but they work hard, live frugally, and do well from what I’ve seen.
this guy is saying what?
where ate the red shirts?
Past jeebuz’s bed time I suppose.
hi lexky! Technically, I’m a registered Republican because my county started as Whigs, then changed to Republicans and all county elected offices are determined in the May primary. But when it comes to November, I’m an Independent. I’m assuming by your screenname that you’re from Lexington, I’m about 90 minutes NE of you if that’s the case.
why do the afro americans take such umbrage at the gay groups
Businessman says he practice diversity. It is good for business to hire best person able to perform job.
is this guy for real? is he nuts? he pretends that discrimination cannot apply to GLBT?
GreyGrey, the redshirts stated leaving the room more than an hour ago. Lightweights!
Sorry, austintx, not watching here. Sergey is a common name.
why do the afro americans take such umbrage at the gay groups
People in California are still asking that re Prop 8.
too tired…I meant GreatGrey, forgive me!
The audio is horrible for me and the video stream keeps going out. Not sure if it is my puter or them. Usually, I have no problems with live stream.
Anyway, you guys are doing a great job providing snapshots of what is happening, and I am enjoying the humor you are injecting. Thanks!
this man actually said the same the thing as the other afro amer man
fawnskin, I dunno re your question – same thing happened here with prop. 8, blacks voted yes to ban gay marriage in large #’s.
justafarmer:
i think its amazing i had to get on an alaska website to meet one of my own.
i am a dem 4 life and a palin hater. i do live in lex. nice to meet you.
so true that, great grey
I think the ads on craigslist would look something like..
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Hey, my church bussed me in to speak against this ordinance 64, and now I am looking to get my **** sucked.
I’m wearing a red shirt. But hell, a lot of people are wearing red shirts here, so how will you find me? You’ll recognise me because I am ugly as sin – inside and out.
I’m not gay, but I am Republican, which means I can get my **** sucked anytime I like and not be gay.
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Black guy wants data to prove if there is even a problem.
i am really getting worried about the lack of red shirts.
i do not see any more red shirts. past their bedtimes. awww.
297 Doggonit – darn right. Businesses dumb enough not to hire the best based on people’s private lives deserve to fail.
too tired…I meant GreatGrey, forgive me!
I’ve had it conflated a lot worse
This blog increased fast as I went to the live stream and came back. I agree that the people who need this ordinance to pass most should calm down and present their case more articulately and convincingly.
The red shirts all have the same old fear mongering songs. Even as they step up to the podium I know that ignorance and intolerance is going to be spewed.
Just a farmer, thanks, am still holding hands tightly.
uh oh. just checked the clock.
gotta go sleepy bye.
another kumbaya and group hug.
snoskred, wash your mouth out with soap! LOL
good night fawnskin. me going soon too. yawn.
Black guy wants data to prove if there is even a problem.
One event of discrimination is one too many, and there have been people there who were victims. That should be enough data.
People wearing red get to use the bus’s unisex toilet.
lexky, send me a PM via the mudflats forum. I’m in Lexington a couple of times a year. We could do lunch (how elitist!)
waving to fellow californians, lori and calipat
glad lawyer lady is up, she is making so much sense and knocking down the idiotic assertions of the redshirts.
Amazing play-by-play and blow-by-blow acccount of this meeting, Pups!
fawnskin, re your question – I don’t get it either – but to borrow a little, when they come for me, I want all of you there.
redshirt bus must have left
i will never understand the fear.
justafarmer: i would love to do lunch.
go big blue
Lady making point freedom of religion means you can’t force your religion on others.
heya califpat! still holding hands here as well but I might have to toddle off to bed soon, getting late here!
Looking at back of room, I see woman with red shirt and man with red stripes. More fun yet to come.
Vet says he didn’t fight for gays, how nice.
how is banning discrimination giving them “special rights?” I just do not get this line of reasoning.
Debbie O , on *my* assembly supports hearing opinions of
non Anchorage citizens/taxpayers, arriving via bus from the Matsu Valley
to testify against this issue. They don’t pay taxes in Anchorage.
Hmmm time for me to take a drive to *their* valley
to spout off.
oooh!!! a Gulf War vet who says he is gay and taking issue with the term “special rights”.
Amazing play-by-play and blow-by-blow acccount of this meeting, Pups!
Live internet feed available here : http://anchorageak.granicus.com/ViewPublisher.php?view_id=2
Black guy wanting data needs to get a copy of “One in Ten” or listen to Melissa Green for starters.
Man says we’re not talikng about special rights here rather, equal rights.
im here all night with the rest of you.
Waving back at ya Fawnskin and Lori. Sleep tight.
What side is this guy on? I’m not sure..
he is either off topic or he is confused?
oooh!!! a Gulf War vet who says he is gay and taking issue with the term “special rights”.
Wow, I heard something completely different from him, but considering he went to the Palin school of Public Speaking, is it any wonder?
Did he just say “pro-rated version of ‘rights’ ” – ?
what is going on with that amorphous blob in the upper right corner of the room? It’s getting weird!
hi and good night ca pat!
I appreciate it! I’m at work and can’t watch!
Man says we’re not a one religion nation.
I don’t believe a word he’s saying. I don’t know any gblt person who is asking for “special” rights
oh my! FIVE count them FIVE children and NONE of them are GAY!!!!! And she’s a Bible Student!!!!
she hammers gay but love everyone. Oh…I need a drink….
Invading a sovereign nation under false pretenses is not protecting my rights and freedoms. I salute anyone who serves in the military………but I’m tired of people like him justifying their bigotry.
She said one of them is
Gay, that is.
Guy that said he didn’t fight for gays was probably fighting alongside one and didn’t have a clue. Betcha most protesting have no idea how many they see (and like and aren’t afraid of) in the course of a day.
She actually is for the ordinance, btw.
Lady raised in Bible belt says she never found passage where Jesus said anything about gays, rather he taught us about loving each other.
oh my bad, her son is gay. She certainly didn’t present that story well at the beginning.
Thanks for the link, GreatGrey…..but I’m way out in the wilds. Only have slow dial-up.
The live blogging comments are great :>)
This has been a very entertaining massliveblog. I hope that the Assembly will still vote in favor of civil rights for all (I’m sure they’re pretty aware of who’s from Anchorage and who’s from the Valley).
Just a remark about CA Prop 8 and AA voters — this has been pretty extensively analyzed, and while it is probably true that a higher percentage of AA voters supported the measure than did the general population, the difference was not that large. Remember that any analysis of this relies on exit polling, and the sample size of AA voters was not very large. And the percentage of AA voters in the electorate is about 10%.
Prop 8 passed because the opponents were unable to muster a sufficient turnout of white liberals.
BTW, I am a straight white liberal Californian. And I voted no, but I always vote.
I think the audio is the problem, justafarmer.. it is really difficult to hear for me – I am in Australia, but I know the audio is just as bad over there in the US cos the mods and I are watching this together via the interwebs.
this guy is very good, but his voice is so soothing I am dozing off.
ok, have a drink in hand and a cat on my lap…I’m mellow now. This guy (blue shirt, red suspenders) sounded good
Travis with red suspenders explains laws protecting gays in schools which he help write in the 90s. All students protected from discrimination. Says we need to prevent all forms of discrimination in society.
Thnx stranglet – and 8 also passed due to influx of tons of cash from out of state (Utah mormons and CO focus on family) to pay for very misleading, slick commercials full of lies.
I want Emily’s hat! She’s sounds nervous
this little lady is so sweet and the story so sad – re partners who could not see their loved ones in hospitals (who were dying) and did not even kno where their loved partners were buried. no discrimination, huh? humph.
Lady says lesbian friend unable to visit partner who was dying in ICU. Wants law to protect aginst discrimination.
she was very sweet. and I felt so much for her as she literally ran out of hte room after speaking.
egads, new redshirt thinks it is contagious. camel gets nose inside the tent and then into the derrier? OMG.
Don’t you think it is something pretty amazing that we – wherever we are in the world – are all watching this outpouring of hate and love in Anchorage together live on the interwebs?
@strangelet: I happen to agree with you. If you have seen the California Mudflats pictures we had at Fawnskins house then many of you would know that I am African American and I voted against Prop 8 as did all my family and most of my friends.
have no idea what this woman in the red shirt is talking about (apparently she is reading stuff she pulled off the internet)
God Bless the Internet, Snoskred
Oh, this lady is just worried that “lesbian wimmins” are gonna hold her down and attack her parts with love, or something..
give them rights and it will spiral out of control I tell ya! it is a campaign to turn evryone gay I tells ya. haaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa, ignorance comes in red.
@Doggonit: Good on you. I’ve read the New Testament a couple of times, and Jesus has exactly zero to say about gays.
@LoriLA — Of course you’re right. The LDS dumped in big bucks. I didn’t know that FOTF did as well, but it doesn’t surprise me. But I still feel that the opposition just didn’t take it seriously enough. Or, one could say that they just assumed that Californians wouldn’t vote for such an evil proposition.
what time is it in Anchorage right now? Just curious.
snoskred you crack me up.
Hey, there’s a dog! Is it going to testify?
Lady in red say don’t let camel stick head in tent as will see owner’s a$$.
I think she is saying she wants homosexuality hidden because it will spread like a contagious disease. She got her talking points off the internet.
it is 5 minutes to 11 and they addjourn at 11
361 Doggonit Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:40 PM
Lady says lesbian friend unable to visit partner who was dying in ICU. Wants law to protect aginst discrimination.
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Saw a story on tv about a case like that……..it was excruciating to watch……..”Christian” family had not spoken to the daughter in years and banished the partner of 10 yrs. from the hospital and booted her out of the house.
I’m out! I have to go get some sleep before work tomorrow. AKM, we couldn’t be there with you guys physically, but we were “here” with you doing the virtual support. We had great reporters and commentary. I can’t believe some of the “negative” testimony given but am encouraged by all the enlightened people that stepped up and gave their comments.
Before my live stream quit, I saw some really moving testimony, and some really disturbing statements. Isn’t it amazing we live in a country founded on freedom for all and yet we still have this kind of hypocrisy going on?
ok, the Assembly just told me the time!
seems many people may not get to testify
Oh no, they won’t extend the hearing, so we are going to have to continue this another day.
motions to extend time are failing
367 Snoskred Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Oh, this lady is just worried that “lesbian wimmins” are gonna hold her down and attack her parts with love, or something..
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She probably would love it………..
good night seattle, take care
@Snoksred: I do not think anybody would want to touch or attack any of that lady’s body parts, lesbian “wimmins” or not. Just saying…
who is the guy who just spoke, the assemblyman who said this was a wonderful example of whatever.
Snoskred…you are a piece of work. LMAO!!! You crack me up!
Oh, this lady is just worried that “lesbian wimmins” are gonna hold her down and attack her parts with love, or something..
I’m sure there is some kind of water boarding joke available in there.
IF they run into the 16th, could Prevo just come in and make people testify again and push this past the 1st of July? I mean, that is the magic date. After that, Sullivan is mayor, and will most likely veto…
I love that bald guy – bless him!
Snoskred, it’s awesome. Who’da thunk it?
wow, 300 people
noticing that panel and nearly all citizens dress and speak professionally – how the HELL did they end up with GINO, who does neither???
316 people on list, only a couple minutes left. Board member wants to go to sleep.
@califpat — Haven’t seen the pix, but I’m happy to hear you voted no. I’m happy to hear anybody voted no. I think it is really unfortunate that the AA community has been portrayed as somehow crucial to the passage of H8.
It would have taken a much smaller percentage of us white guys to defeat it. Why isn’t it our fault?
uh oh the red shirts are back, i see them in the back of the room – shaking hands with each other, long stretches so no appearance of man on man contact, would not be hetero enough ya know.
oh, this last guy is good!
this guy is right on – no one left to discriminate against – women, blacks, chinese, etc. we got equal rights – so let’s hate the gays now – so wrong he said, and he is so right
oh geez, couldn’t he even finish his sentence?! Criminy!
recessed – was hoping to hear from akm or shannyn or phil oh well
Guy says US History not pretty. His immigrant father badly discriminated against. Terrible pay and living conditions. All immigrants we treated poorly as lesser human beings. We are better off with laws that make all equal.
A big amen to this last guy.
Well, lets see what AKM has to post about this.
Now I’ll get back to my harassment of the birthers.
Sleep well all.
and to all a good night – hugs and more hugs to all
Have fun, GreatGrey
hugs back
Nan
he was good…….a fine way to end….did I under stand they pick it up on the 16th ??
@snoskred — you were unusually acerbic (and funny) this evening.
@strangelet: I do not think it is your fault. I think it is the faults of fear mongering people (in the red) like we saw in Anchorage tonight that are homophobic and will never change. And yes there are homophobic people in the African American population too. I just don’t associate with them. So, it takes all of us to fight this intolerance and get civil and human rights for all.
The 16th is Correct. I’m just worried it will be extended again past July, when Sullivan is mayor.
this has been great! Thanks to the hand-holding mudpup circle!
I suspect AKM has a major headache getting home and writing this up. Is 3 am for me, I’m off to bed now.
Thats all folks………pick a sunset……..taking 57 kids to the airport for the big NYC trip……..plane leaves at 5am.
http://www.collthings.co.uk/2009/04/40-cool-sunset-pictures.html
There could be three or four more nights of debate at the rate they went tonight. I just cannot make sense of allowing people from outside Anchorage to participate – how does that not discriminate against Anchorage residents??
@ 391 Lori – LOL @ “long stretches”
As for “lesbian wimmins,” I played some years on a softball team with some and have a good friend who is bi, gone dancing at a gay bar (with the bi friend), and never had any hit on me. Now I know the lady that testified has ‘em lining up for her, I’m depressed. What’s wrong with me? (Except, maybe that I’m straight, like her?)
(Funny thing – They never “threatened” my marriage, either.)
Ya’ll rocked with your live coverage!! Thanks, ya’ll.
Oh – And this is what a smart-ass bartender does to your receipt when you order a sissy drink………
http://www.disaboom.com/Blogs/saydrah/archive/2009/06/08/what-happens-when-you-order-a-cosmopolitan-in-a-bar-in-western-australia.aspx
Strangelet – I feel more free to be acerbic and funny, now that it isn’t my job to look after the comments.
The mods will tell you this is what I am usually like in our chats – a little funny, a bit sarcastic, with a touch of Wonkette humor. 
I have very little tolerance for intolerance – isn’t that ironic!
Plus, I don’t have much tolerance for the religious wingnuts, which is also ironic.
I could have sworn some guy got up there and claimed America is a great country, except for the GAYS (and muslins).
I do not envy AKM having to sit in that room with so much emotion swirling around – and now this evening we have a community meeting here which will have just as much emotion.. except it is about something being built in the community that people do not want.
yay austin! I just know the kids will have a great time in NYC. If there’s a possibility of a YouTube video, let us know!
throwing in just one more post to ask…
! )
is this a record Mudflats number of posts?
(we tried
@califpat — What you said. There are homophobes everywhere, and I think most of them just suffer from fear of the unknown. Shortly, we should see fairly widespread progress. The world won’t end, and in another decade or so, legal equality will be commonplace and unquestioned.
Of course, just as with racial equality, it will take generations to achieve true psychological change. But legal equality is the critical first step.
Safe journey, austintx.
Dang…I only caught c. 5 min. I did not realize that I’d be able to actually see and hear the Assembly meeting live. Thanks, this virtual attendance works. The hearing is continued 6-16? I am happy that someone posted the live link around #45.
Kumbaya (come by here) my Lord. Kumbaya and
goodnight ‘Flatters all…
South Side Chicago
@snoskred — I might try to paraphrase Barry Goldwater: “Intolerance in the pursuit of tolerance is not a sin”. But my memory is cloudy (hmm, perhaps the Shadow knows).
No I think there are some posts with more than a thousand comments..
It is a good effort, though.
Now that we know we can watch it online, the next time we can start chatting at the start of the meeting, maybe we can break the record..
I honestly can’t believe that they are willing to listen to some of the testimony that was offered, though. One guy from Palmer who was something to do with the summer camp going on about sodomy and pedophiles and abortions and sucking the brains out of kids.. geez, I would not want to be going to his summer camp of intolerance and mis-information.
I’ve just posted some pictures and information on the Loussac civil rights Anchorage Assembly hearing at Progressive Alaska.
Our poor progressive bloggers will be up half the night defragging their psyches.
Snap!
Give em hell GreatGrey! (Where do you go to do that? I usually do it at Hanitty, but just got banned FOREVER so would love to know if there is another place.
thanks Snoskred…3:30 am here now…hubby is gonna be REALLY pissed at me tomorrow (actually today!)
d,a,m,n you Phil! I have to go look at pics before I go to sleep…
@strangeletI I completely concur!!
Now at the risk of sounding imbecelic, how do I listen to the stream video next time and simultaneously post. Do I need two computers or is there a technological way to do it? God, I feel like Gino! Yuk!!!!
Thank you all for the blogging.
califpat, I just opened up the stream in a new tab by right-clicking the link. so I had mudflats in one tab, the assembly stream in another. And I could listen to the stream when I was at Mudflats.
Off to bed with me now. Night all!
Seattlefan – congratulations on your “status” at Hannity. (how’d you do that, anyway? Really, way cool!)
Nan
Wow! I got home and clicked on the post, expecting to see a few dozen comments and there were over 400! I really enjoyed your live blogging. I saw many but not all of the ones you spoke about, because I was outside taking pictures, and had to wait to get into the overflow room to hear testimony. It’s been an exhausting night. Thank you all for tuning in, and leaving such a wonderful surprise for me when I got home!
That was a fascinating experience. I was so hoping to get into the main assembly room to take pictures — I had my good gear with me — but ended up in Wilda Marston with Cosmic Diva, which was just as good.
Some of the speakers were eloquent or poignant, others were incomprehensible, many were fearful, and a few were downright hateful. I thought Sheila did a good job of following up with questions, trying to point out the inconsistencies in their arguments. I don’t know if any of them “got it” or not, but at least she tried.
I was just over at Phil Mungers post at Progressive Alaska looking at the pictures and all that RED jolted my memory back to the days of another group that dressed in red and liked to swarm town hall meetings.
Anyone else remember followers of Bahgwan Shree Rajneesh and their attempts to take over the towns of Antelope and The Dalles in Eastern Oregon?
Can you say “Cult”?
Wow AKM, you’ve had a long day!
I don’t know if you got to see the one councilman (?) state to all that he thought the people that were getting up and having their say were awesome, that it could be intimidating to do, and that he was terribly impressed and I think he even used the word “proud” – but that was the gist, anyway.
Then, the last person of the day had his say. There were over 300 more names on that list, and I think they’re going to take it up again on the 16th (?).
put your feet up, you’ve earned it.
Nan
@Justafarmer: Thanks for that information. My children and grandchildren are more technologically savvy than I am and sometimes I have to go to them for support. I am telling my age but that is ok.
AkM. unlike Cpees, we know we have an intelligent leader and we will always support you. And if we can be at a meeting for a good cause, like the passing of the ordinance tonight that we all feel is a worthy cause, then we Mudpups will be glad to be there via internet to support you. Thanks for giving us this opportunity. You have enlightened us in the most informative, comedic and intellectual way that we are indebted to you for opening up your state to us. At the same time you have have lifted our awareness of all creation both human, animal, and plant, with the introduction of Brian, Brenda and the kids. And the beautiful plants that we would never have thought important. Thank you so much, that you show us that Gino is not repesentative of Alaska
What have I missed.? Just turned on the computer and saw over 445 comments. It will take me the morning to catch up!!
HI Irishgirl
Anchorage city gov’t heard from members of the public about the coming legislation re GLB… discrimination in housing, employment etc.
Some heartbreaking stories, some intolerant, it really ran the gamut.
And my insomnia is disappearing.
see y’all tomorrow
Nan
Thanks Nan. I have a feeling there are going to be some very tired mudpups today, looks like you were all up half the night!!
Wow, I just read all of the comments. That was some fantastic live blogging going on….sorry I missed it.
I agree. Great live blogging, everyone! But I’m still trying to figure out the camel in the tent, the fart in the room, and the “wimmins” parts being attacked by LOVE…LOL! You had me laughing so hard, I was crying!
Irishgirl, like Nan, my insomnia is going away, so I leave it to you to guard the fort.
243 austintx Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 9:53 PM
I think Stan Roach likes sheep.
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But do the sheep like Stan?
277 Snoskred Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Please can people not eat the darned mike when they talk..
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The mike is prolly cheaper than anything they can get on craigslist.
304 fawnskin mudpuppy Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:18 PM
why do the afro americans take such umbrage at the gay groups
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I asked a similar question years ago. The answer went along this line: a black man in a crowd remains a black man to anyone who looks at him. A gay man in a crowd need only hold the hand of a woman and to anyone who looks, he is heterosexual. In addition, there is a much more visceral and cultural reaction among blacks to homosexuality. But why that is was not explained.
Well now… took nearly an hour to make it thru 450 posts… glad I wasn’t up until 3 am!!
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GreatGrey Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:23 PM-Black guy wants data to prove if there is even a problem.
I BET that black dude was the one on Shannyn’s show with the same issue…
Watch out WARREN, I’m not beyond a plane ticket.
Ok,,, there! I have finally gotten through all the comments (at work! shhhhh)
I just gotta say this about that one woman who was apparently afraid of the lesbian wimmins. I can assure you, lady, that none of us lesbian wimmins would want anything to do with your parts. I think she’s just jealous.
And why is every red-wearer there afraid that if they protect basic civil rights, that the gay people will suddenly run amok and “turn” everyone queer? People DON’T get TURNED into gay people. If someone wants to “play gay”, then so be it. But it’s no game to me. Nobody turned me gay. I knew when I was in the third grade, for God’s sake, that I was different.
I hope that common sense and decency prevails up there.
Thanks to AKM and all the others who endured hours in that vitriol-filled hall.
I salute you.
453 sauerkraut Says:
June 10th, 2009 at 6:28 AM
277 Snoskred Says:
June 9th, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Please can people not eat the darned mike when they talk..
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The mike is prolly cheaper than anything they can get on craigslist.
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ok, i was up all night commentating and i had a chuckle or two or three with my fellow kumbaya-ers.
but now i’m rotflmao at the above.
Wow! Great liveblogging, all. Sorry it started past my bedtime…or not, as I had to get up this morning.
hey, i just had a first. my comment got sent to the spam filter.
i am one of the cool people.
#446 califpat Says: June 10th, 2009 at 12:24 AM …@AkM. unlike Cpees, we know we have an intelligent leader and we will always support you….
Actually, califpat, if you’re talking about Rebecca Mansour (aka RAMrocks aka R.A. Mansour), she IS pretty intelligent. She graduated with honors from a college (university?) in Detroit in 1996, and she’s had one (1) screenplay made into a movie. She’s a writer (screenwriter, too) in L.A.
Her problem is that she has no sense of humor, has a hairtrigger temper, and is possibly loonier than her idol.
I saw the pictures of Prevo’s picketers.
Didn’t look like many of them were old enough to vote. Nothing like brainwashing the young into bigotry. Catch them at an early age.
And “Mrs. Alaska” was there too. If beauty queens are now free to butt into politics with their personal views on “company time”, it’s yet another reason to do away with the institution.
Meanwhile, I wonder how they’d feel with some signs saying “No apartments for blondes”, “Blue eyes have no right to marry”, and “White men need not apply”?
Bigots are always clueless. Too bad Darwinism can’t take care of that.
@Hey Kajo: You got my information all wrong. I was talking about AKM and the wonderful community she has opened up for us Mudpups. I have no idea who Rebecca Mansour is.
wow…………amazing work everyone ….. thoroughly enjoyed the read …….well done!