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	<title>Comments on: Anchorage&#8217;s Non-Discrimination Ordinance &#8211; New Developments</title>
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	<description>Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics</description>
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		<title>By: KikiAK</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/20/4805/#comment-78380</link>
		<dc:creator>KikiAK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, will admit to using the men&#039;s room when the line at the women&#039;s room was too long for my bladder to tolerate.  This has happened on several occasions at concerts and sporting events.  Personally, I really am not concerned about the bathroom issue.  It&#039;s a complete red herring... but, I&#039;m preaching to the choir, as it were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, will admit to using the men&#8217;s room when the line at the women&#8217;s room was too long for my bladder to tolerate.  This has happened on several occasions at concerts and sporting events.  Personally, I really am not concerned about the bathroom issue.  It&#8217;s a complete red herring&#8230; but, I&#8217;m preaching to the choir, as it were.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ptarmigan Nest - Ptarmigan, the State Bird of Alaska. A peaceful little creature. &#187; Can&#8217;t have any of that going on</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ptarmigan Nest - Ptarmigan, the State Bird of Alaska. A peaceful little creature. &#187; Can&#8217;t have any of that going on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hearings. For those of you who don&#8217;t know, a local Baptist group has tried to xtian filibuster the proceedings with over 500 people giving testimony on why they hate gay people and thus we don&#8217;t need [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hearings. For those of you who don&#8217;t know, a local Baptist group has tried to xtian filibuster the proceedings with over 500 people giving testimony on why they hate gay people and thus we don&#8217;t need [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Animal Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Animal Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention their argument that since animals don&#039;t have gay sex (not true) people shouldn&#039;t have gay sex. Therefore they&#039;re saying people should have sex like animals do. 

I guess opponents of the ordinance want people (okay heterosexual people) to have sex the way animals do, and we all know animals will have sex whenever and wherever the mood hits em.  Want to have sex on the People Mover, go for it!  Sex in the asssembly hall during an assembly?  Why not, it&#039;s only natural.

But some animals are non-monogamous, oh my!  Animals can be such sinners!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention their argument that since animals don&#8217;t have gay sex (not true) people shouldn&#8217;t have gay sex. Therefore they&#8217;re saying people should have sex like animals do. </p>
<p>I guess opponents of the ordinance want people (okay heterosexual people) to have sex the way animals do, and we all know animals will have sex whenever and wherever the mood hits em.  Want to have sex on the People Mover, go for it!  Sex in the asssembly hall during an assembly?  Why not, it&#8217;s only natural.</p>
<p>But some animals are non-monogamous, oh my!  Animals can be such sinners!</p>
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		<title>By: The Daily Tweets, 2009-06-21 &#8211; Henkimaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Daily Tweets, 2009-06-21 &#8211; Henkimaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] humorous look at redshirt paranoia @mudflats. @PastorD, take note of the schoolbus. http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/20/4805/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] humorous look at redshirt paranoia @mudflats. @PastorD, take note of the schoolbus. <a href="http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/20/4805/">http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/20/4805/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: leenie17</title>
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		<dc:creator>leenie17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TBNTJudy Says: 
That being said, I do know that things have changed since I lived there, but one thing I have learned by living a number of different places in the U.S. is that the South does not have the corner on the market for ignorance.

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No offense meant...I&#039;m very sorry if you read it as a sweeping generalization of people in the south, and it was certainly not intended as such.  The two friends who tried to talk me into moving down there were some of the greatest people I&#039;ve known, and among many I met who were open minded and welcoming.  However, the  conversation I referred to earlier was shocking as I had never encountered someone as educated as he was who sincerely believed that the origins of the universe and a terrorist bomb could in any way be compared.  The abandonment of logic for blind adherence to religious dogma was pretty startling to me and, obviously, had quite an impact on me since I&#039;ve remembered the conversation for more than ten years.  Of course, we are witnessing the same kind behavior in the testimony of Prevo&#039;s followers during the past few days and I find that very sad.   Hopefully, the younger generations will learn to embrace and value differences rather than fear them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TBNTJudy Says:<br />
That being said, I do know that things have changed since I lived there, but one thing I have learned by living a number of different places in the U.S. is that the South does not have the corner on the market for ignorance.</p>
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<p>No offense meant&#8230;I&#8217;m very sorry if you read it as a sweeping generalization of people in the south, and it was certainly not intended as such.  The two friends who tried to talk me into moving down there were some of the greatest people I&#8217;ve known, and among many I met who were open minded and welcoming.  However, the  conversation I referred to earlier was shocking as I had never encountered someone as educated as he was who sincerely believed that the origins of the universe and a terrorist bomb could in any way be compared.  The abandonment of logic for blind adherence to religious dogma was pretty startling to me and, obviously, had quite an impact on me since I&#8217;ve remembered the conversation for more than ten years.  Of course, we are witnessing the same kind behavior in the testimony of Prevo&#8217;s followers during the past few days and I find that very sad.   Hopefully, the younger generations will learn to embrace and value differences rather than fear them.</p>
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		<title>By: Physicsmom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great report, loved the video.   I listened to the last two Anchorage testimonies and was appalled at the hate speech the red shirts spouted.  There were so many Bible verses quoted, which were totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.  I agree that free speech entitles all city STAKEHOLDERS - citizens, and maybe business owners and landlords - to have their say, but strongly disagree that local outsiders should be allowed to express their opinions.  My husband is head of a city department and attends council meetings here.  Citizen participants must state their address and zip code in order to speak at any meetings.  If that is not a rule in Anch. now, then it should be in the future.  I&#039;ve come to believe that Ms. Ossiander deliberately sabotaged the outcome of the hearings by allowing outsiders to speak (someone from Wisconsin spoke on Tues!) and by extending the sign up time.  The other council members should be furious about this as well as the Anchorage residents.  

(((bubbles)))  (((AussieGal77)))  (((DonnaInMichigan)))  Not good to be discriminated against for any reason.  We&#039;re trying to cover your backs, but it would be nice if there were more of us.  P.S. Donna - where in MI?  I&#039;m in Northville.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great report, loved the video.   I listened to the last two Anchorage testimonies and was appalled at the hate speech the red shirts spouted.  There were so many Bible verses quoted, which were totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.  I agree that free speech entitles all city STAKEHOLDERS &#8211; citizens, and maybe business owners and landlords &#8211; to have their say, but strongly disagree that local outsiders should be allowed to express their opinions.  My husband is head of a city department and attends council meetings here.  Citizen participants must state their address and zip code in order to speak at any meetings.  If that is not a rule in Anch. now, then it should be in the future.  I&#8217;ve come to believe that Ms. Ossiander deliberately sabotaged the outcome of the hearings by allowing outsiders to speak (someone from Wisconsin spoke on Tues!) and by extending the sign up time.  The other council members should be furious about this as well as the Anchorage residents.  </p>
<p>(((bubbles)))  (((AussieGal77)))  (((DonnaInMichigan)))  Not good to be discriminated against for any reason.  We&#8217;re trying to cover your backs, but it would be nice if there were more of us.  P.S. Donna &#8211; where in MI?  I&#8217;m in Northville.</p>
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		<title>By: Kath the Scrappy from Seattle</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/20/4805/#comment-77452</link>
		<dc:creator>Kath the Scrappy from Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ DonnaInMichigan Says:
June 20th, 2009 at 7:13 AM
&quot;My son Michael is Gay…….Julie’s son is Straight.

Now you tell ME, which young man is more of a liability to society.&quot;
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Thanks for sharing, what powerful points you make that even ignorant &#039;red shirts&#039; might be able to comprehend!  You must be so proud that he turned into such a fine young man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ DonnaInMichigan Says:<br />
June 20th, 2009 at 7:13 AM<br />
&#8220;My son Michael is Gay…….Julie’s son is Straight.</p>
<p>Now you tell ME, which young man is more of a liability to society.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Thanks for sharing, what powerful points you make that even ignorant &#8216;red shirts&#8217; might be able to comprehend!  You must be so proud that he turned into such a fine young man.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/20/4805/#comment-77159</link>
		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ADN will not show my posts even though they are legitimate.  However, the bible verses are strongly represented as proof against gay people.  What has happened to the Daily News?  I moved from AK after 20 years here and I always loved it .  Still have a ski condo in Girdwood.  However, I am so sad, tearful when I read about the hate and discrimination that abounds in Alaska.  When will this end?  Jerry Prevo still running the show?  Sad sad man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ADN will not show my posts even though they are legitimate.  However, the bible verses are strongly represented as proof against gay people.  What has happened to the Daily News?  I moved from AK after 20 years here and I always loved it .  Still have a ski condo in Girdwood.  However, I am so sad, tearful when I read about the hate and discrimination that abounds in Alaska.  When will this end?  Jerry Prevo still running the show?  Sad sad man.</p>
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		<title>By: TBNTJudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBNTJudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ leenie17, I grew up and was educated in the deep South.  We learned the theory of evolution, and we were not taught anything about creationism in school.  In church, of course, we learned the bible stories, but no one ever tried to tell us that science and the bible were in conflict.  Maybe that was because I was in an Episcopal church, but it seems that we did not take the bible as being literal word.  Just as not everyone in the South is a racist, not everyone believes as the man you describe.  That being said, I do know that things have changed since I lived there, but one thing I have learned by living a number of different places in the U.S. is that the South does not have the corner on the market for ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ leenie17, I grew up and was educated in the deep South.  We learned the theory of evolution, and we were not taught anything about creationism in school.  In church, of course, we learned the bible stories, but no one ever tried to tell us that science and the bible were in conflict.  Maybe that was because I was in an Episcopal church, but it seems that we did not take the bible as being literal word.  Just as not everyone in the South is a racist, not everyone believes as the man you describe.  That being said, I do know that things have changed since I lived there, but one thing I have learned by living a number of different places in the U.S. is that the South does not have the corner on the market for ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: leenie17</title>
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		<dc:creator>leenie17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>austintx Says: 
leenie17 - I saw this and it made me think of your post. Did you have to sign any “contract” like this ??
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/8u1jl/is_this_legal_my_sister_recently

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YIKES!!!  Fortunately I live in NY where we&#039;re a little more progressive and actually recognize evolution...and even TEACH it (oh the horror!)!  

Friends of mine tried to convince me some years ago to move down to the deep south.  While I was down there for a work project, a young man (college educated with his own business) told me that the Oklahoma City bombing proved that the Big Bang theory was &quot;a lot of hooey&quot;.  I started to laugh until I realized he was serious.  He then explained that it was also a big explosion but there were no new life forms created from it, thus the proof.  I shut my mouth, realizing that there was just no way to argue with that kind of logic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>austintx Says:<br />
leenie17 &#8211; I saw this and it made me think of your post. Did you have to sign any “contract” like this ??<br />
<a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/8u1jl/is_this_legal_my_sister_recently">http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/8u1jl/is_this_legal_my_sister_recently</a></p>
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<p>YIKES!!!  Fortunately I live in NY where we&#8217;re a little more progressive and actually recognize evolution&#8230;and even TEACH it (oh the horror!)!  </p>
<p>Friends of mine tried to convince me some years ago to move down to the deep south.  While I was down there for a work project, a young man (college educated with his own business) told me that the Oklahoma City bombing proved that the Big Bang theory was &#8220;a lot of hooey&#8221;.  I started to laugh until I realized he was serious.  He then explained that it was also a big explosion but there were no new life forms created from it, thus the proof.  I shut my mouth, realizing that there was just no way to argue with that kind of logic!</p>
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