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JtP is Back!

I know you’ve all been holding your breath waiting to find out who Joe the Plumber, the smartest Republican in the room, will endorse for the presidency in 2012.  Here’s a tantalizing clue from his sold out performance at the Independence Institute’s annual Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms party.

I know.  You’re sad you didn’t get an invite.  Me too.  I mean….who wouldn’t want to get smashed, have a stogie and shoot cans with Joe the Plumber?  Good times.

Asked who might win his support among potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates, Wurzelbacher dismissed Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (”No … no”), before sounding like Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin might be his choice.

Sarah Palin? Maybe,” he said. “She’s a nice lady and I like her. She doesn’t have that gleam of power in her eyes.”

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee won some praise from Wurzelbacher, who ultimately said he worried the candidate was giving in to his handlers.

Nice lady…  No gleam of power…  Why do I hear Dustin Hoffman’s voice from Rain Man?

But the real potent quotable came later in the evening during a brief speech.

“This country has been great for over 180 years,” Wurzelbacher said after urging folks to study the Constitution. It wasn’t clear whether something happened in the late 1820s to make the United States great, but other than a few puzzled glances from the crowd, everyone went with it.

Can it be that Joe the Plumber is a secret fan of Andrew Jackson?  Or perhaps the year Chester Arthur was born marked a turning point in the American psyche?  Maybe he was just waiting for the death of John Jay to allow America to achieve its true greatness potential.

Answering questions from the well-lubricated crowd, Wurzelbacher revealed that he hasn’t made any money from the book he wrote, “Joe the Plumber – Fighting for the American Dream,” issued by the tiny PearlGate Publishing imprint, but suggested there could be “Joe the Plumber” Christmas ornaments in his merchandising future.

Don’t forget to check the toe of your stocking this year boys and girls!

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June 22nd, 2009

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AKMuckraker

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90 to “JtP is Back!”


  1. 1
    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Christmas ornaments ?? WTF ?? Oh gee , let me guess…….painted toilet floats.

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    IrishgirlNo Gravatar says:

    Noooo. it is my bed time. Cease and desist.

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    Super BeeNo Gravatar says:

    Or how about the little deodorant disks that hang on the side of the bowl. Pine scented of course.

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    IrishgirlNo Gravatar says:

    Fingers stuck in ears!

  5. 5

    Is there really an Independence Institute’s annual Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms party?! that just sounds like something someone — just couldn’t make up, too funny!

    and I do NOT want to think about Joe the Plumber x-mas ornaments, ewww.

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    IrishgirlNo Gravatar says:

    I just can’t take it anymore….

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    ericmiamiNo Gravatar says:

    Sarah the Governor. Joe the Plumber. It’s good to get in touch from time to time.

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    BlooperNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder if that crowd made him horny too? ;)

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    BrettaNo Gravatar says:

    The two have so much in common.

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    Those would be the 2009 equivalent of coal in your stocking!

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    BlooperNo Gravatar says:

    Super Bee: I think JTP urinal cakes would be a hot seller.

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    the problem childNo Gravatar says:

    Little red white and blue urinal cakes.

    ATF sounds like my kind of party. See you there, austintx!

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    SueNo Gravatar says:

    If you look at his comment another way, it could be that he thinks the decline of our country began in the mid-1950′s. Just a thought. Probably he’s poor at math AND history. : )

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    ENOUGHwiththetrainwreckNo Gravatar says:

    okay – so i googled: american history 1820′s

    found this website: http://hubpages.com/hub/jacksonian-era

    snippet: During the 1820s and 1830s the term democracy first became generally acceptable as a way of describing how American institutions were supposed to work. Most of the Founders had viewed democracy as a dangerous tendency that needed to be held in check within a well-balanced republic. Too much direct popular influence over government and society allegedly led to instability and even anarchy since the general public was more liable than a cultivated elite to be ruled by passion or corrupted by unscrupulous leaders. For champions of popular government in the Jacksonian period, however, the people were truly sovereign and could do no wrong. “The voice of the people is the voice of God” was their clearest expression of this principle. Conservatives were less certain of the wisdom of the common folk. But even they were coming to recognize that public opinion had to be won over before major policy decisions could be made.

    comment: so maybe Joe is looking for a new party???

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Whatever the ornament is , it will go just fine on this tree. Notice the pork rinds next to the #4 pool ball. yum……
    http://newscoma.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/101_0232.jpg

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    the problem child – OK…….I’ll go if you go.

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    honestyinGovNo Gravatar says:

    OK… I read the whole story. LOTS of Liquor & Guns together..?
    (Whose bright GOP idea was THAT… Michael Steele..?)

    And I see that he must have been channeling Sarah Palin when asked the question about who to support… ” I’ll get back to you… Charlie ”

    It’s a simple question Joe.. just like ” What newspaper do You read..?”

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    honestyinGov–maybe he’s just waiting to see if anyone more right wing is going to decide to run?

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    lilyfNo Gravatar says:

    Speaking of ignorant people who love to talk to the media as often as possible…I found this video of a young Mayor Palin announcing in a press conference, with incredible seriousness, how she will be the only one speaking to the media in her administration, and then some lady talking about how “Sarah” increased the city coffers by taxing people…omg! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IoCyqUAoA

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    BigPeteNo Gravatar says:

    “She’s a nice lady and I like her”

    Joe the Plumber couldn’t bring himself to comment on Palin’s qualifications and intelligence?

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    bubblesNo Gravatar says:

    pitiful. just pitiful.

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    the problem childNo Gravatar says:

    @austintx: You bring the guns, I’ll bring the smokes and Moosehead beer. Par-tay in the grotto!

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    MarthaNo Gravatar says:

    Joe the Bummer…………..

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    califpatNo Gravatar says:

    Gino has the same qualifications and intelligence as Joe the Plumber, so of course he could not comment on them. The two were probably sittting in special education classes around the same time in school.

    Joe the Plumber ‘s Christmas ornaments will be the little rubber ball in the top of the toilet tank.

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    CO almost nativeNo Gravatar says:

    @ austintx and the problem child:

    That means you’ll be coming to Denver metro area, because that is where the Independence Institute is. Talk about a misnomer- it is about as right wing as you can get, pretends to be a scholarly research place; hard to be taken seriously academically if JtP is your keynote speaker. Founder and Chief Mouthpiece is Jon Caldera (urg). BFF with the NRA.

    You are most welcome to hang out at my place (no guns or smokes, but lots of Fat Tire) and we can thumb our noses in the direction of Golden, the home of Coors beer and the Institute.

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    CO almost nativeNo Gravatar says:

    Here’s their web site:

    http://www.i2i.org/main/page.php?page_id=1

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    antiAntiNo Gravatar says:

    She is _NOT_ a nice lady and I don’t like her.

    Maybe pretty soon Joe TP will have used up his 15 minutes of fame and just go away. Although, AKM does a great writing job on the JTP post. So I guess Joe has his usess.

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    Greytdog ΔNo Gravatar says:

    Little rifles & plumber wrenches all painted red white & blue. . .probably start marketing them around July 4 (get ahead of that Christmas rush. . . ho ho ho)

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    MarnieNo Gravatar says:

    Isn’t it interesting that every Repocon mouth piece has been infected with “Mad Bush Disease.”
    Kind of like Mad Cow but you catch it from repeating too many Repocon talking points till your brain starts turning into a self consuming Black Hole. Facts go in and are turned into anti-facts till all your brain has disappeared.

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    Greytdog ΔNo Gravatar says:

    “she’s a nice lady. . .I like her” – POTUS reduced to Miss Congeniality

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    LaineyNo Gravatar says:

    joe, like palin, just won’t let go of that 15 minutes of fame.

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    phoebeNo Gravatar says:

    Oh Lord…..what next. I was hoping jtp would have made enough money off of media hype to quietly disappear….no such luck.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Has he paid those back taxes yet ??

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    weaver57No Gravatar says:

    Arrgghhh! Joe the Plumber ornaments – rhinestone plungers? gilded snakes? His book isn’t selling. no content perhaps? This is why Levi should not be getting ay kind of book deal, no content.

    OT – thunder in KY and adopted golden living in bathtub.

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    deeNo Gravatar says:

    Oh goody, sparkly plungers in my stocking!! I can hardly wait!!
    “she doesn’t have that gleam of power in her eye”? Is that her winking eye or the other one?

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    CRFlatsNo Gravatar says:

    ” Nice lady… No gleam of power… Why do I hear Dustin Hoffman’s voice from Rain Man? ”

    One is an idiot savant, the other, just an idiot.

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    sauerkrautNo Gravatar says:

    … ain’t no way I’m gonna let butt cracks into my xmas stockings.

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    “She doesn’t have that gleam of power in her eyes.” ????????????HUH???????????

    No, Joe, she doesn’t have the gleam of power in her eyes because her whole wretched BEING is veritably GLOWING with a mad lust for power, not just her beady little, naughty-librarian (if you could have a librarian who doesn’t read anything but rightwing screeds) eyes!

    Poor Andy Warhol is whirling in his grave b/c it turns out in the real future everyone is famous for 15 minutes, but every idjit GOP gimmick’s 15 minutes apparently resets an infinite number of times.

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    phoebeNo Gravatar says:

    #34 weaver57
    dog living in your tub?

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    BJANo Gravatar says:

    Palin/Plumber ’12
    All of the bluster, none of the brains.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    No butt cracks in my stocking either! Thanks Sauerkraut!!!

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    bucfanNo Gravatar says:

    CO almost native, read something that said that someone named John Andrews founded the “Independence Institute”. Who is he? Also read that Caldera succeeded Tom Tancredo as president of the institute. Yeah, independent in relation to what? And when will the Plumbers union sue Joe for false advertising. I wouldn’t let this guy use Liquid Plumber in my house. And since he made no money on his book, how is this guy making a living? And he may not mean since 1820. He may mean 180 out of the last 233 years. He might not count the FDR administration, Clinton, etc. There might be some eras in our history when he might think the country was good, not great.

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    bucfanNo Gravatar says:

    Buttcracks in my stockings? Wasn’t that a song by Connie Francis?

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    While you are waiting for the ornament , get one of these…….
    http://www.zazzle.com/joe_the_plumber_buttcrack_t_shirt-235208176374521632

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    Greytdog ΔNo Gravatar says:

    Maybe butt caulk for those butt cracks?

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    seattlefanNo Gravatar says:

    #44 autintx……LOL! Love it.

    Today is been a fun day with all the GOP follies. Palin, the never ending joke, Mark Sanford (What’s up with that?), Lindsey Graham and his crazy comments, and now Joe the Plumber has come up for air. I think they have all gone mad.

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    weaver57No Gravatar says:

    #39 Phoebe- We adopted a 7 year old golden retriever because owner died of cancer. He is a very gentle dog but absolutely terrified of thunder and we have had much of that in central KY. So, he goes to the bathtub. Never had this kind of dog. And all of our dogs & cats have been drop offs, rescues.

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    Greytdog ΔNo Gravatar says:

    Weaver57, for thunder/storm phobic dogs, try Bach’s Rescue Remedy – a couple of drops rubbed onto ends of ears, even a couple of drops directly on tongue or gums. . .helps take edge off their stress. . . another good homeopathic is Ark Natural’s Happy Traveler – meant for traveling, but I’ve used it on dogs who freak out during storms & have also used it on dogs who react to stress aggressively. Doesn’t sedate, just calms them down enough that they don’t overreact or react inappropriately.

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    bucfanNo Gravatar says:

    ummm. Greytdog, Jerry Prevo is having an aneurysm over your last comment.

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    seattlefanNo Gravatar says:

    #47 weaver: My dog is terrified of thunder. When we get it I always put him in a room with the blinds closed and LOUD music or tv so he won’t hear much of it. It works. You might want to try that. Same with fireworks. This time of year is hard on him with all the kids shooting off fireworks.

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    Greytdog ΔNo Gravatar says:

    Weaver57 = lots of storm/thunder phobic dogs head into bathroom. . . theory is that the plumbing in the bathroom dissipates the static charge in atmosphere for them. . .My corgi heads there – spends most of hurricane season there, even when given Rescue Remedy. . .makes her feel safe. . . (although she hides behind the toilet, can’t get into tub)

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    leenie17No Gravatar says:

    califpat Says:
    June 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 PM
    Gino has the same qualifications and intelligence as Joe the Plumber, so of course he could not comment on them. The two were probably sittting in special education classes around the same time in school.

    ————————–

    I work with special ed kids and I can guarantee that THEY can tell you what books they’ve read! At my grade levels it’s probably something along the lines of “If You Give a Moose a Muffin” (a personal favorite of mine!), but at least they can name a title, unlike a certain presidential wanna-be we all know. They can even write summaries and draw some super illustrations (in color!) to go with them. Let’s see GINO do THAT!

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    sauerkrautNo Gravatar says:

    How’s this for an xmas gift idea… give jerry prevo a gift certificate for a blind date with joe da plumber.

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    BSNo Gravatar says:

    lilyf@19 – WTF! The mayor of Wasilla needs a PR person? She knew then she didn’t have a clue and it continues to this day. I wish I was more politically aware then (my address is Wasilla but I don’t live in the city limits). My mayor is the borough mayor (Sir Colberg). Anybody out there that knows anything about Rupright? I know he had a Palin sign at his law firm before he became mayor. Haven’t heard much about him. But I don’t subscribe to The Frontiersman. Tried to put it on my homepage but can’t make it work.

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    califpatNo Gravatar says:

    @Leenie17: I agree with you whole heartedly. Gino and Joe the Plumber, never had any desire to learn anything because they already know everything, so they have not and never will be as intelligent as your children.

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    weaver57No Gravatar says:

    Greytdog (don’t know how to do triangle thingie). Vet suggested using Melatonin. It helps somewhat if we get into him soon enough. Well, we simply have been having too much rain in KY. Now that will not last. Have not heard of Bach’s Rescue Remedy but will go looking, Also Ark Natural Happy Traveler. Thanks for your suggestions.

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    weaver57No Gravatar says:

    seattlefan – it has to be an electric impulse. I saw a lightening strike that the dog could not see, yet 12 seconds later he was panting and in the bathtub before the thunder hit. He gets so exhausted from all this weather activity that it makes me wonder what happened to him before we adopted him/

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    mlaiuppaNo Gravatar says:

    LOL. He’s throwing his hat in the ring and endorsing himself! After all, if Sarah could be nominated………

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    MissSunshineNo Gravatar says:

    Not surprised to think “Joe” thought she was “a nice lady”. We all remember how McCain called her “my soulmate”. Levi said that she was “real nice” to him during the campaign, but “things changed” when she lost, and had to come back to Alaska.

    She turns on the charm and sex appeal, and then when they are no longer useful to her, throws them under the bus without a second thought.

    She completely snowed “Joe” as to her true nature. There is no doubt in my mind that she believed she would be POTUS if their ticket had won, and that “Jesus” would have called McCain home if she had to cut the brakes on his car herself.

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    mlaiuppaNo Gravatar says:

    Hmm. Did something happen in 1956? Because that’s 180 years after 1776, which is when Joe the Plumber would consider the start of “this country”. So…what happened in 1956 to make the country not so great anymore?

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    MonaLisa IS MY NAME!No Gravatar says:

    “Don’t forget to check the toe of your stocking this year boys and girls!”

    ???

    :(

    Don’t you love us no more, AKM?

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    He was urging folks to study the Constitution? Really? Seriously? Wow.

    Does anyone believe that Joe knows anything about the Constitution?

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    MonaLisa IS MY NAME!No Gravatar says:

    BTW: JtP came out as a Libertarian a while back, didn’t he?

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    NanNo Gravatar says:

    mlaiuppa
    Brown vs Board of Education was around that time, wasn’t it?

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    Far fromFenway FanNo Gravatar says:

    She’s a nice lady and I like her” reminds me that anytime anyone would ask McCain about Palin he’d ALWAYS say, “I’m so proud of her!”

    Kinda reminds me of my MIL who never speaks ill of anyone. If you ask her about someone she does not care for, she replies, “My she has a lovely complexion!”

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    K8KZNo Gravatar says:

    JtP Christmas ornament – can I say this here? “Ballcock” (that is the little rubber ball thingy in the tank).

    Weaver57 – my Mother was terrified of thunder and lightning and so then was her little dog, who I think got it from her – anywho, went to the vet who persribed valuum – said give the dog half of one and for her to take two!!

    What about that SP hairdo on the mayor footage? Were puffed up bangs like that stylish in the late 90′s? I don’t recall…..Reminded me of the “mall bangs” the teenies used to wear in the 80′s.

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    PollyNo Gravatar says:

    Wurzelbacher revealed that he hasn’t made any money from the book he wrote, “Joe the Plumber – Fighting for the American Dream,” issued by the tiny PearlGate Publishing..

    I think this will be the case when Scarah’s book is released. The publisher may break even.

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    mlaiuppaNo Gravatar says:

    Hmmm.

    “A U.S. Supreme Court ruling March 26 upholds a federal law passed in 1954 to compel witnesses to testify in cases involving national security. The court rules in Ullmann v. United States that the witnesses will have immunity from prosecution equivalent to the protection guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment.

    The U.S. Supreme Court excludes states from punishing persons for sedition. It rules April 3 in Pennsylvania v. Nelson that the federal government has “occupied the field” under the Smith Act of 1940.

    Former U.S. vice president Alben W. Barkley dies at Lexington, Va., April 30 at age 78 while addressing a mock Democratic Party convention held by students of Washington & Lee University; Admiral Ernest J. King, U.S. Navy (ret.), dies of heart failure due to hypertension at Portsmouth, N.H., June 25 at age 77. He is credited with having masterminded the Allied victory at sea in World War II; Canadian World War I flying ace William Avery “Billy” Bishop dies at Palm Beach, Fla., September 11 at age 62.

    President Eisenhower wins reelection against a second challenge from Democratic hopeful Adlai Stevenson despite the president’s illness and warnings that in the event of his death he would be succeeded by his controversial vice president Richard M. Nixon. Ike receives 57 percent of the popular vote and wins 457 electoral votes, Stevenson gets only 42 percent of the popular vote and 73 electoral votes, but the Democrats retain control of Congress.”

    http://www.enotes.com/peoples-chronology/year-1956

    Brown vs. Board of Ed was 1954. But it would be just like Joe to get the numbers wrong.

    Now since the Constitution was ratified in 1787, (again, something I don’t think Joe would really know) add 180 years and you get 1967.

    This kinda jumps out at me:

    “The U.S. Government is “the greatest purveyor of violence in the world,” says Martin Luther King Jr. April 4 in a talk at New York’s Riverside Church. He attacks U.S. sales of weapons to foreign countries, encourages draft evasion, and proposes a merger between the antiwar and civil-rights movements. Antiwar demonstrations April 15 at New York and San Francisco bring out upwards of 100,000 at New York, 50,000 at San Francisco.”

    http://www.enotes.com/peoples-chronology/year-1967

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    SameOldNo Gravatar says:

    In 1956 Dwight D. Eisenhower fought to make marijuana legal in the United States, but his campaign members told him that would be bad for the election.

    Joe is right.

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    SameOldNo Gravatar says:

    In 1956 Republicans wore cloth coats and were human.

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    PollyNo Gravatar says:

    OT: Let’s hope for a win for Governor Perry’s opponent(s), since he is so enthralled and enamored about getting Palin’s support….

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/06/22/in-texas-gov-perry-crows-about-his-endorsement-by-palin/

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    bubblesNo Gravatar says:

    dear mudpups, i left a thank you note on the brian thread. sorry to be o.t. sleepy talk tomorrow.b

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    “Answering questions from the well-lubricated crowd”,

    ahem, lol…….

    on a somewhat less suggestive note……betchya he decorates his tree with little candy canes made out of pvc pipe (plus larger front yard pvc candy cane art also too, wrapped with RED ribbon) and yeppers, a pvc shaped star tree topper, prolly even learnt how to drill some holes for pokin in little flashin and movin lites.

    all joking aside, I’m not blastin plumbers, or pvc artists or those that are creative with their yard art and senior citizen trailer lights.

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    CO almost nativeNo Gravatar says:

    @bucfan #42:

    Yes, John Andrews was/is involved. He was a leading Republican state Senator- led a midnight “raid” when he was in the Legislature to hijack the redistricting process and skew it toward the GOP. Court slapped his hands and threw out the high jinks. He writes a conservative column in the Post that is ridiculed by at least a couple of letters to the editor the day after. Tancredo was involved until he was elected to Congress–if you look at this motley crew, you can imagine what “Independence” stands for.

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    “How’s this for an xmas gift idea… give jerry prevo a gift certificate for a blind date with joe da plumber.”

    ah yap (sauerkraut)…….that would be a match made for a x-mas gift.

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    CO almost nativeNo Gravatar says:

    @ weaver57:

    All of my doggies have feared lightning and thunder. Rescue Remedy really works- although we had to use more than a few drops with the late Tippy, a 92 lb. Lab-Shepherd mix. Current doggie, Mocha, likes the laundry room- curls up on the rug by the back door. Daughter’s dog Pluto prefers the depths of our walk-in closet (it is next to the sinks in our bathroom).

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    StarNo Gravatar says:

    Gov. Perry…What a dum ass…Hope K.B.H. kicks his butt…

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    seattlefanNo Gravatar says:

    weaver57 Says:
    June 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 PM
    seattlefan – it has to be an electric impulse. I saw a lightening strike that the dog could not see, yet 12 seconds later he was panting and in the bathtub before the thunder hit. He gets so exhausted from all this weather activity that it makes me wonder what happened to him before we adopted him/
    ======================================
    ======================================
    Wow, poor pup. You could be right about the electric impulse. My dog is not that bad. As long as he can’t hear what is going on he is fine. Do you think your dog might have seen or been close to a lightening strike before you adopted him and associates the “pulse” with the terror he may have experienced? Curious….How does he/she react to fireworks? If there is no reaction there that would certainly confirm your theory.

    Whatever the case, I hope you can find a solution. Mild sedation might be a good thing if you are around all the time to monitor him/her. Good luck! Hope you can ease your doggies fears.

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    I just posted Justice Ginsberg’s dissent in the Couer vs SE Conservation case at Progressive Alaska. Sen. Begich’s endorsement of this decision was the biggest disappointment he’s brought to us. It is so short-sighted and selfishly directed toward mining interests. I almost cried when I read his press release this morning.

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    pearl89No Gravatar says:

    Have had many dogs over the years and none of them have been afraid of thunder storms except the one I have now. I have talked to the vet about it and she said it was the noise and the drop in the barometer pressure. My dog is part husky and part golden. She starts whimpering and whinning well before I can hear any thunder. She also pants a lot and her heart rate goes way up. Never heard of Rescue Remedy, where can I get some?

    She is also afraid of loud noises…fireworks, car backfires, gun shots. Heck, if I raise my voice at all (like yelling at the other dog, one of the cats, my son), she goes and hides under the bed. I have had her since she was about 8 weeks old so I know she’s never been mistreated…just super sensitive to loud noises.

    I wish she would get in the bathtub. She has to be right up next to me. She is too old now to jump on the bed to sleep except when there is a storm coming. Then she gets as close to me as possible and buries her head under the pillows leaving me with about 2″ of bed since she is a 100+ lb doggie. My other dog (St Bernard/chow mix) didn’t seem to be phased by the storms but the more time he spends with Sadie the worse he is becoming. He hides in the bathtub.

    But after 13 years, I think I’ll keep her…

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    K8KZ–do remember that all fashions come to Alaska much later than they were “in fashion” in the Lower 48. That should/might explain the “80s” bangs into the 90s in Wasilla. Then again, I’ve noticed that that’s a very popular hair style for many R women; you know–big hair. Isn’t there something in the South about the bigger the hair, the closer to God?

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    strangeletNo Gravatar says:

    Sam has outlasted his fifteen minutes.

    I might have been interested in “Alcohol, Tobacco-alternative, and shooting Firearms at Sam Wurzelbacher”.

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    LiladyNYNo Gravatar says:

    My last dog, an 80 pound Irish Setter, Lab and Shepherd mixed beauty, was petrified of thunder and fireworks. She’d hide in the bathtub. I finally ended up getting a mild sedative for her from the vet. She was afraid of the dark, too. She would not go out in the yard unless you were with her. But, she had a big deep bark and sounded very ferocious so no one ever knew she was a big marshmallow. My little Pug dog sleeps through everything. She perks her ears up at fireworks, but nothing seems to frighten her. Do you think it’s only BIG dogs that are affected so much?

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    Ripley in CTNo Gravatar says:

    Mildly off topic, however, listening to JTP talk about anything at all would require a caseload of…..

    Rescue Remedy

    I have gobs of this stuff… for ME! It comes in drops, spray, cream, and pastiches (another name for gumdrops).

    It can be found just about anywhere. Try ebay, for one. I got a great deal there on a bunch of them. Otherwise, do an Amazon search and pick.

    Bach’s Flower Essences are effective, no matter what people who are skeptics will tell you.

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    sauerkrautNo Gravatar says:

    Phil @ 80: I’ve been following an interesting situation in Libby, MT. There, a former vermiculite mine operated by the Zonolite division of W.R.Grace & Co. has contaminated the town to such a degree with tremolite asbestos that the federal government has classified the entire town as a hazardous site. Part of the contamination is from the fines which were used to pave the streets, fill holes and construct the high school track. Additional contamination comes from the wind blowing asbestos in the fines all over the place.

    But, hey… what a few fines between friends? It’s not a problem until actual people start coming down with diseases or start to die. Even then, there’s a real question of whether Sarah Palin will give a crapola.

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    Lee323No Gravatar says:

    “She’s a nice lady and I like her.”

    Nice example of “damning with faint praise.”

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    MacNo Gravatar says:

    WR Grace – what a disgraceful company! They are responsible for so much toxic dumping all over the country. They were the polluters here in MA (Woburn) that was written about in the book “A Civil Action” that was made into a movie with John Travolta. I think I went through at least one big box of kleenex reading that book. Couldn’t bring myself to see the movie. I don’t understand how these people sleep at night…

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    sauerkrautNo Gravatar says:

    Mac… that was a pretty good movie.

    Yeah… the Anderson family. Travolta did nice job in the flick. First time I could stand any of his work. The guy he portrayed, Jan Schlictman, was a real piece of work. The Hale & Dorr lawyer who hid in the document retention area died before the red sox won the series. Too bad for that d***eb**.

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    BonnieNo Gravatar says:

    jtP ornament? groannnn….