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	<title>Comments on: Breaking News &#8211; Three More Ethics Complaints Against Palin, and Then Some?!</title>
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		<title>By: Pursang</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/06/24/breaking-news-three-more-ethics-complaints-against-palin-and-then-some/#comment-81115</link>
		<dc:creator>Pursang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s time that people stop apologizing to Palin over every little thing that causes her to have the vapors.  She does this to effectively censor anyone that speaks out against her or makes light of her policies/beliefs/lack of ethics.

The next time Sarah Thin Skin gets all bent out of shape all she should get from the person is a &quot;So, who cares if you&#039;re upset.  I&#039;m upset over your inability to govern in a mature and ethical manner&quot;.   The let Palin and Meggy rant and rave like the loons they are while reasonable people laugh at her.

I&#039;m just tired of the hypocracy(sp) of the right wingers.  They run people into the ground but like typical bullies, they can dish it out but can&#039;t take it.  Well no more, give it back to them and let them whine and cry because I couldn&#039;t care less about these childish people who feel that politics are a game instead of it being a position where you are working for the best interests of the citizens of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s time that people stop apologizing to Palin over every little thing that causes her to have the vapors.  She does this to effectively censor anyone that speaks out against her or makes light of her policies/beliefs/lack of ethics.</p>
<p>The next time Sarah Thin Skin gets all bent out of shape all she should get from the person is a &#8220;So, who cares if you&#8217;re upset.  I&#8217;m upset over your inability to govern in a mature and ethical manner&#8221;.   The let Palin and Meggy rant and rave like the loons they are while reasonable people laugh at her.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just tired of the hypocracy(sp) of the right wingers.  They run people into the ground but like typical bullies, they can dish it out but can&#8217;t take it.  Well no more, give it back to them and let them whine and cry because I couldn&#8217;t care less about these childish people who feel that politics are a game instead of it being a position where you are working for the best interests of the citizens of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: sauerkraut</title>
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		<dc:creator>sauerkraut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>164	 Martha Says:  June 25th, 2009 at 3:59 PM

It appears that the Palins borrowed the money from a living trust, that her parents have majority control of AND that was created approximatley 2 weeks before they borrowed the money.

This “iceberg” threat is about the Palins and Heaths embezzling from with a trust fund that was federally guaranteed. That the federal government agencies are looking (obligated to) into this wrong doing, because of the guarantee. And that the IRS is involved in this too.
____________

That part I got.   Private transaction wherein Palin &quot;borrowed&quot; money.  Did Palin not pay back the borrowed money?   I don&#039;t see embezzlement under the scenario wherein Palin borrowed money (presumably it&#039;s a loan extended by the Carter&#039;s).

I can see where the IRS might have raised an eyebrow if Palin did not pay back the money.  Or if they paid no interest on the &quot;borrowed&quot; money (which the IRS views as an interest-free loan).

If the money was not paid back, and the value of the &quot;borrowed&quot; money never declared on a 1040, then there&#039;s a problem as the IRS tends to view these types of transactions as involving undeclared income.  Oops.  Still gotta pay taxes on undeclared income!

If no interest was paid on the &quot;borrowed&quot; money, then there&#039;s also a problem here as the IRS tends to view the unpaid interest on no-interest loans as...  income.   If that income was not included on the 1040, then there&#039;s yet another instance of undeclared income.  Still gotta pay taxes on undeclared income!

But that&#039;s all conjecture as we do not know the nature or terms of the transaction(s) that you listed.   Did the Carter&#039;s actually loan money to Palin?   Did the Carter&#039;s expect to be paid a certain amount of interest?   If there was interest, did the Carter&#039;s declare that on their 1040?  Did the Carter&#039;s provide the appropriate IRS 1099 interest form to Palin?  Has any of this shown up on tax returns released by Palin?

There are other pertinent questions, but those are where we ought to start.

Oh, and here&#039;s a kicker...  1994?   Are any claims by any of the parties (Palin, Carter, IRS?) barred by applicable statute of limitations?  Has the bell tolled on any possible enforcement action?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>164	 Martha Says:  June 25th, 2009 at 3:59 PM</p>
<p>It appears that the Palins borrowed the money from a living trust, that her parents have majority control of AND that was created approximatley 2 weeks before they borrowed the money.</p>
<p>This “iceberg” threat is about the Palins and Heaths embezzling from with a trust fund that was federally guaranteed. That the federal government agencies are looking (obligated to) into this wrong doing, because of the guarantee. And that the IRS is involved in this too.<br />
____________</p>
<p>That part I got.   Private transaction wherein Palin &#8220;borrowed&#8221; money.  Did Palin not pay back the borrowed money?   I don&#8217;t see embezzlement under the scenario wherein Palin borrowed money (presumably it&#8217;s a loan extended by the Carter&#8217;s).</p>
<p>I can see where the IRS might have raised an eyebrow if Palin did not pay back the money.  Or if they paid no interest on the &#8220;borrowed&#8221; money (which the IRS views as an interest-free loan).</p>
<p>If the money was not paid back, and the value of the &#8220;borrowed&#8221; money never declared on a 1040, then there&#8217;s a problem as the IRS tends to view these types of transactions as involving undeclared income.  Oops.  Still gotta pay taxes on undeclared income!</p>
<p>If no interest was paid on the &#8220;borrowed&#8221; money, then there&#8217;s also a problem here as the IRS tends to view the unpaid interest on no-interest loans as&#8230;  income.   If that income was not included on the 1040, then there&#8217;s yet another instance of undeclared income.  Still gotta pay taxes on undeclared income!</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s all conjecture as we do not know the nature or terms of the transaction(s) that you listed.   Did the Carter&#8217;s actually loan money to Palin?   Did the Carter&#8217;s expect to be paid a certain amount of interest?   If there was interest, did the Carter&#8217;s declare that on their 1040?  Did the Carter&#8217;s provide the appropriate IRS 1099 interest form to Palin?  Has any of this shown up on tax returns released by Palin?</p>
<p>There are other pertinent questions, but those are where we ought to start.</p>
<p>Oh, and here&#8217;s a kicker&#8230;  1994?   Are any claims by any of the parties (Palin, Carter, IRS?) barred by applicable statute of limitations?  Has the bell tolled on any possible enforcement action?</p>
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		<title>By: sauerkraut</title>
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		<dc:creator>sauerkraut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>159	 sdragon Says:  June 25th, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Why doesn’t somebody just throw a bucket of water on her &amp; see if she melts?

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Because there are federal and state laws against the pollution of water?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>159	 sdragon Says:  June 25th, 2009 at 12:38 PM</p>
<p>Why doesn’t somebody just throw a bucket of water on her &amp; see if she melts?</p>
<p>_________</p>
<p>Because there are federal and state laws against the pollution of water?</p>
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		<title>By: cheerz89</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to make sense of these land records.  It looks like the Palins borrowed money from the Carter living trust to buy a house in 1994 and gave back a mortgage/deed of trust to the Carter living trust.  Amy Carter and the Heaths are also involved but it doesn&#039;t state that they&#039;re trustees, which would be the norm.  Then, in 1996, both Mr. and Mrs. Carter, the owners of the living trust, as trustees of their trust and in the name of their trust, and Amy Carter, assigned the Palin&#039;s mortgage/deed of trust to Chuck Heath.  So if they owned the trust and voluntarily assigned the mortgage/deed of trust to Chuck Heath, I&#039;m trying to figure out where the embezzlement is?  Any educated guesses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to make sense of these land records.  It looks like the Palins borrowed money from the Carter living trust to buy a house in 1994 and gave back a mortgage/deed of trust to the Carter living trust.  Amy Carter and the Heaths are also involved but it doesn&#8217;t state that they&#8217;re trustees, which would be the norm.  Then, in 1996, both Mr. and Mrs. Carter, the owners of the living trust, as trustees of their trust and in the name of their trust, and Amy Carter, assigned the Palin&#8217;s mortgage/deed of trust to Chuck Heath.  So if they owned the trust and voluntarily assigned the mortgage/deed of trust to Chuck Heath, I&#8217;m trying to figure out where the embezzlement is?  Any educated guesses?</p>
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		<title>By: austintx</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee323 - Then Rush will blame PO..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee323 &#8211; Then Rush will blame PO&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess the news about three more ethics complaints and possible IRS investigation was getting a little hot for Palin and Stapletongue.

Hence.....trot out the baby.

I assume Palin&#039;s fans are not smart enough to understand that Diva&#039;s Palin-Burke graphic had nothing to do with special needs babies. Just like Letterman&#039;s joke had nothing to do with rape. They follow her feigned outrage like little goslings after Mother Goose.

Hmmm....Mother Goose. Now that IS a sacred icon for millions of children...... Yep. I came full circle on this post: Palin&#039;s groupies are child-like. 

Can&#039;t wait until Humpty-Dumpty has her great fall...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess the news about three more ethics complaints and possible IRS investigation was getting a little hot for Palin and Stapletongue.</p>
<p>Hence&#8230;..trot out the baby.</p>
<p>I assume Palin&#8217;s fans are not smart enough to understand that Diva&#8217;s Palin-Burke graphic had nothing to do with special needs babies. Just like Letterman&#8217;s joke had nothing to do with rape. They follow her feigned outrage like little goslings after Mother Goose.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;.Mother Goose. Now that IS a sacred icon for millions of children&#8230;&#8230; Yep. I came full circle on this post: Palin&#8217;s groupies are child-like. </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait until Humpty-Dumpty has her great fall&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MinNJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MinNJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!  That pic was just too funny!  Made my day, and thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!  That pic was just too funny!  Made my day, and thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: MinNJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly hope that I have not done anything wrong (opps,  too late)  before you guys get to me.  Go for it!  I rely on you for these details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly hope that I have not done anything wrong (opps,  too late)  before you guys get to me.  Go for it!  I rely on you for these details.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOps.....forgot to include the link;

http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/NameDocs.cfm?SelectedName=HEATH%20CHARLES%20R&amp;District=ALL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOps&#8230;..forgot to include the link;</p>
<p><a href="http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/NameDocs.cfm?SelectedName=HEATH%20CHARLES%20R&amp;District=ALL">http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/NameDocs.cfm?SelectedName=HEATH%20CHARLES%20R&amp;District=ALL</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>138	 sauerkraut Says: 
June 25th, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Martha… I don’t get it. What’s so special or unusual about these real estate transactions?
=========================================
Well, when I went to the page to read this, it looks like;

a) They borrowed money from a trust fund.

b) Palins are the &quot;grantors&quot;.........they get the money

c) Grantee - MCKINLEY TITLE &amp; TRUST INC
Grantee - HEATH CHARLES R
Grantee - HEATH SALLY ANNE
Grantee - CARTER AMY L...........they decide to give the monies, as they are running the trust fund.

d)Comments: GRANTEE NAME;RAYMOND L CARTER AND KRISTINE M CARTER LIVING

The trust is named/and or belongs to........RAYMOND L CARTER AND KRISTINE M CARTER LIVING

e) the trust was created .............Comments: GRANTEE NAME;TRUST DATED OCTOBER 21 1994

f) Palins borrowed the money......Date Recorded: 11/08/1994 Time: 09:15AM     Book: 787     Page: 447     Pages: 6    

=============================================
It appears that the Palins borrowed the money from a living trust, that her parents have majority control of AND that was created approximatley 2 weeks before they borrowed the money.

This &quot;iceberg&quot; threat is about the Palins and Heaths embezzling from with a trust fund that was federally guaranteed. That the federal government agencies are looking (obligated to) into this wrong doing, because of the guarantee. And that the IRS is involved in this too.

Who are these Carter folks? Anyone know?


Maybe someone can enlighten me if I&#039;m wrong. The following was found at this page too;

================================================
Document Year: 1989 Number: 018185 Suf: 0   	 District: 311 - PALMER
Date Recorded: 12/12/1989 Time: 09:59AM     Book: 604     Page: 657     Pages: 1    
Index: M  -  MORTGAGES	Other ID: 241 646    
Desc: RECONVEYANCE
Grantor - ALTICO INC
Grantor - ALASKA TITLE GUARANTY INSURANCE COMPANY
Grantee - HEATH CHARLES R
Grantee - HEATH SALLY A
Location:  Lot: 20     Block: 2    	Plat: 63-19  
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Document Year: 1996 Number: 007984 Suf: 0   	 District: 311 - PALMER
Date Recorded: 06/06/1996 Time: 10:07AM     Book: 851     Page: 84     Pages: 1    
Index: M  -  MORTGAGES	Other ID: 787 447    
Desc: ASSIGNMENT OF DEED OF T
Grantor - CARTER RAYMOND L TRUSTEE
Grantor - CARTER KRISTINE M TRUSTEE
Grantor - CARTER RAYMOND L &amp; KRISTINE M CARTER LIVING TRUST THE
Grantor - CARTER KRISTINE M &amp; RAYMOND M CARTER LIVING TRUST THE
Grantor - CARTER AMY L
Grantee - HEATH CHARLES R
Location:  Lot: 10     Block: 1    	Plat: 62-5  
=================================================
Document Year: 2000 Number: 008861 Suf: 0   	 District: 311 - PALMER
Date Recorded: 05/31/2000 Time: 01:34PM     Book: 1070     Page: 998     Pages: 2    
Index: D  -  DEEDS	  
Desc: WARRANTY DEED
Grantor - HEATH CHARLES R
Grantor - HEATH SALLEY A
Grantee - HEATH CHARLES R CO-TRUSTEE
Grantee - HEATH SALLY A CO TRUSTEE
Grantee - HEATH SALLY A REVOCABLE TRUST
Grantee - HEATH CHARLES R REVOCABLE TRUST
Location:  Lot: 9     Block: 5    	Plat: 79-366  
Location:  Lot: 8     Block: 5    	Plat: 79-366</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>138	 sauerkraut Says:<br />
June 25th, 2009 at 10:25 AM<br />
Martha… I don’t get it. What’s so special or unusual about these real estate transactions?<br />
=========================================<br />
Well, when I went to the page to read this, it looks like;</p>
<p>a) They borrowed money from a trust fund.</p>
<p>b) Palins are the &#8220;grantors&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;they get the money</p>
<p>c) Grantee &#8211; MCKINLEY TITLE &amp; TRUST INC<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH CHARLES R<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH SALLY ANNE<br />
Grantee &#8211; CARTER AMY L&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..they decide to give the monies, as they are running the trust fund.</p>
<p>d)Comments: GRANTEE NAME;RAYMOND L CARTER AND KRISTINE M CARTER LIVING</p>
<p>The trust is named/and or belongs to&#8230;&#8230;..RAYMOND L CARTER AND KRISTINE M CARTER LIVING</p>
<p>e) the trust was created &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Comments: GRANTEE NAME;TRUST DATED OCTOBER 21 1994</p>
<p>f) Palins borrowed the money&#8230;&#8230;Date Recorded: 11/08/1994 Time: 09:15AM     Book: 787     Page: 447     Pages: 6    </p>
<p>=============================================<br />
It appears that the Palins borrowed the money from a living trust, that her parents have majority control of AND that was created approximatley 2 weeks before they borrowed the money.</p>
<p>This &#8220;iceberg&#8221; threat is about the Palins and Heaths embezzling from with a trust fund that was federally guaranteed. That the federal government agencies are looking (obligated to) into this wrong doing, because of the guarantee. And that the IRS is involved in this too.</p>
<p>Who are these Carter folks? Anyone know?</p>
<p>Maybe someone can enlighten me if I&#8217;m wrong. The following was found at this page too;</p>
<p>================================================<br />
Document Year: 1989 Number: 018185 Suf: 0   	 District: 311 &#8211; PALMER<br />
Date Recorded: 12/12/1989 Time: 09:59AM     Book: 604     Page: 657     Pages: 1<br />
Index: M  &#8211;  MORTGAGES	Other ID: 241 646<br />
Desc: RECONVEYANCE<br />
Grantor &#8211; ALTICO INC<br />
Grantor &#8211; ALASKA TITLE GUARANTY INSURANCE COMPANY<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH CHARLES R<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH SALLY A<br />
Location:  Lot: 20     Block: 2    	Plat: 63-19<br />
================================================<br />
Document Year: 1996 Number: 007984 Suf: 0   	 District: 311 &#8211; PALMER<br />
Date Recorded: 06/06/1996 Time: 10:07AM     Book: 851     Page: 84     Pages: 1<br />
Index: M  &#8211;  MORTGAGES	Other ID: 787 447<br />
Desc: ASSIGNMENT OF DEED OF T<br />
Grantor &#8211; CARTER RAYMOND L TRUSTEE<br />
Grantor &#8211; CARTER KRISTINE M TRUSTEE<br />
Grantor &#8211; CARTER RAYMOND L &amp; KRISTINE M CARTER LIVING TRUST THE<br />
Grantor &#8211; CARTER KRISTINE M &amp; RAYMOND M CARTER LIVING TRUST THE<br />
Grantor &#8211; CARTER AMY L<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH CHARLES R<br />
Location:  Lot: 10     Block: 1    	Plat: 62-5<br />
=================================================<br />
Document Year: 2000 Number: 008861 Suf: 0   	 District: 311 &#8211; PALMER<br />
Date Recorded: 05/31/2000 Time: 01:34PM     Book: 1070     Page: 998     Pages: 2<br />
Index: D  &#8211;  DEEDS<br />
Desc: WARRANTY DEED<br />
Grantor &#8211; HEATH CHARLES R<br />
Grantor &#8211; HEATH SALLEY A<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH CHARLES R CO-TRUSTEE<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH SALLY A CO TRUSTEE<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH SALLY A REVOCABLE TRUST<br />
Grantee &#8211; HEATH CHARLES R REVOCABLE TRUST<br />
Location:  Lot: 9     Block: 5    	Plat: 79-366<br />
Location:  Lot: 8     Block: 5    	Plat: 79-366</p>
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