Threatened by Palin, a Blogger Speaks Out. Shannyn Moore, Meet the Press.
On the last bright sunny day of a holiday weekend that was jam-packed with unexpected politican maneuvering, blogger Shannyn Moore had the last word. She stood in front of Governor Sarah Palin’s Anchorage office, before reporters and television cameras, and read a prepared statement.
On the Fourth of July, when Americans everywhere were celebrating our most sacred national holiday with parades and barbeques, Governor Sarah Palin was busy having me, Shannyn Moore, declared an Enemy of the State.
In a rambling quasi-legal letter, the most powerful person in this state accused me of defaming her for pointing out the fact that there have been rumors, -rumors- of corruption, rumors that have been around for years.
When Sarah Palin gave her three-weeks notice to the people of Alaska, aborting her term as Governor, a lot of people wondered why she quit. Mid-level managers turn-in their notice, not elected public officials. It didn’t make sense. It still doesn’t. People have been trying to guess why she really quit, and everyone in Alaska has been playing the guessing game. They’re rumors. There are a lot of rumors. And with all the corruption we’ve had here in Alaska, of course we wonder what’s really behind her resignation.
Governors don’t just quit. But Governor Palin did.
The governor’s massive overreaction -on the Fourth of July no less- should make any reasonable person wonder what’s wrong with her. The Lady protests way too much. Eventually we’ll all find out why she really walked off the job.
Sarah Palin is a coward and a bully. What kind of politician attacks an ordinary American on the Fourth of July for speaking her mind? What’s wrong with her? The First Amendment was designed to protect people like me from the likes of people like her. Our American Revolution got rid of kings. And queens, too. Am I jacked-up? You betcha.
Sarah Palin, if you have a problem with me, then sue me. Shannyn Moore will not be muzzled!
During a question and answer session, Moore assured the press that this was not going to affect “how she blogged,” stressing that she had reported that rumors existed, not the validity of any such rumors. The story has already ignited the blogosphere, and has just been picked up by the Associated Press, in addition to local news media.
It’s fireworks on the 5th of July for Governor Palin, and a celebration of the first amendment for the rest of us. Thanks to a true patriot for being brave and refusing to be bullied.
Go Shannyn!!!!!
Go Shannyn, Go!!
Go Shannyn Go!! And there is a whole country of fellow bloggers that will contribute whatever you need if she dares continue this farce!!!!
This warms my heart! Hoping the tape is sent to the MSM and will be airing when “Buttercup” returns from fish-picking and turns on her tv. Priceless.
woohoo Shannyn, nice job, and you look great. Hope we get to see it on youtube soon.
So what were the questions? Anything intelligent from our media?
Amen! Congratulations, Shannyn–you’re an inspiration to the rest of us. I must admit that when I first caught wind of the governor’s plan to prosecute detractors my reaction was an involuntary stomach spasm (I probably would have Embarrassed Myself had I not skipped breakfast). But when I read your response, and realized that situations like this are precisely why we have all agreed to make Freedom of Speech a constitutional right, I realized that long, quasi-legal letters notwithstanding, we have more than a right to express dissent–we have an obligation to do so, thoughtfully, reasonably, logically, and respectfully. And if anyone tries to muzzle us, our first question should be, “Why?”
Bravo, Shannyn! I bet that lipsticked pit bull is already regretting calling you out.
1. Shannyn, you are doing a fantastic job! I support you and if you need funds for an attorney, you can count on my support.
2. Ditto to lovemydogs…any media questions?
Please post video as soon as available…was Andrea Mitchell there? I know she’s up there on the hunt (and not for moose)
guess Van Flein will check the blogs and listen next time before accusing Shannyn of stuff, looks like his client Buttucup lied to him. What number of lies is that, #15 or #29? =)
Shannyn you are my heroine. This is how progressives must react, not cower like most of our elected reps. Thank you for your work, your words and your strength. Any help you need I know there are thousands that have your back.
Well done Shannyn! – LOL thouh, I wouldn’t bank on it being the last word today – don’t forget the twit terer.
I heart Shannyn Moore and AKM and Celtic Diva
YOU all make me proud to be a woman and an American .
Shannyn I’m sorry this is on you, but I’m glad Sarah the Bully will be in the spot light now.
I see her with a little square mustache and a swastika arm band. She can rouse the rabble, but she can’t deal with the truth.
You rock Shannyn!
How nice to see all those cameras.
Is this the tail wagging the dog?
Woo-hoo! Go, Shannyn! Good job.
you have our support!!!
Nice response Shannon- love your apt choice of words.
Excellent work Shannyn.
And love that coat.
Yay! I’m glad you called her out for what she is…a bully and a coward!
Palin is a walking, talking example of the Peter Principle. It is too me, amazing that she rose to heights of being an Executive Officer of a state let alone nearly being Vice-President of the Untied States. But man, she does provide me with plenty of comedy material. Cheers!!
Shannyn, you are the hero of the day!
Your statement was very well done, and given the personal nature of Palin’s attacks against you, when you have in fact been quite fair to her, she had it coming, and then some.
Good for you Shannyn!!! You are so wonderful…and gorgeous!!! Your report on rumors was entirely accurate…you didn’t claim to be one of the few to know the truth like the Alaska ear ” There are a zillion theories about why Sarah called it quits, but only Ear and a few insiders know the truth. ” Is she being sued as well?
Shannyn Moore is a patriot who will not allow a tinfoil despot to tread on the Bill of Rights!!! Long may she wave!
“quasi-legal letter”?
I thought it was more like a quasi-weasel letter.
Bravo Shannyn!!!! GINO and her weasel will never again have the nerve to try and stifle free speech rights.
The GINO has been smacked down and hard. She’ll never recover from the embarrassment and humiliation.
Game over!
Shannyn = 1.
GINO = 0.
There has been a lot of speculation as to why Sarah has aborted her responsibilities as governor, but given her mental make up and her mental state, she probably doesn’t know why either.
What’s up, Buttercup
whoa oh whoa
What’s up Buttercup
whoa oh whoa. …
Great job Shannyn. I take it that you will not be apologizing to Sarah like Lettermen did. LOL We all have you back.
you = your
Shannyn is everything Palin wishes she could be – intelligent, attractive and brave.
lily f Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 3:53 PM
” There are a zillion theories about why Sarah called it quits, but only Ear and a few insiders know the truth. ”
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Did the odious Sheila Toomey really say that? We already know she’s a liar and gets some of her info from Mudflats. Toomey has zero credibility.
WTG Shannyn..and thanks AKM for the update.
Sarah Palin is messing with the wrong American citizen.
YAY Shannyn !! Thank you for standing up for every American’s right for freedom of speech. I feel very proud to “know” you. Love your show , love what you stand for.
And thank you AKM , for giving us this platform to read , learn , and exercise our freedom of speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-niro6p2×4o&feature=related
Wait a sec… that cannot be.
Palin aborted her term as guverness?
That cannot be!
Everyone knows Sarah Palin is against abortion… guess it just goes to show… not only is she not really pro-life, but she’s also not against abortion!!
Ohhh… let’s start a new rumor. …
Chalk one up for the good guys (or girls). It is really time that Gino got put in her place. I am glad the “real Alaska” breeds strong tough women who don’t cower and run!!
Nice job, Shanynn! Can’t wait to see the video and hear the Q & A. Keep up the good fight.
Thanks for covering this … Shannyn is my hero today. Freedom of speech, SLAPP, the 1st Amendment. They will all be left standing when SarahP crawls into the dustbin of history.
28 ds55 Says: July 5th, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Shannyn is everything Palin wishes she could be – intelligent, attractive and brave.
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Let’s add a few more things that Shannyn is but Palin is not…
dignified.
easy on the eyes.
Yeah, wtg Shannyn!!!!!! Does anyone know the questions yet? I love depositions they can get some of the most embarrassing answers to some of the most public questions. Counter suits are great too, also they can be very interesting. Thank you AKM for showing us pics please let us know more if you can…..
AWESOME job Shannyn! You are an inspiration to women, Alaska and this country. Now I realize why I started a group called Toastmaster’s ( the largest speaking organization in the world)! To start speaking out and about the biggest farce this country has witnessed Sarah Palin!
You can sue me too, when you hear what I have to say about the Biggest Coward Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin seems to think she is the only person that can slander and use free speech.
This unethical intimidation and bullying by Palin of ordinary citizens, requires a filing of another ethics complaint to the personnel board!
24 London Bridges Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 3:56 PM
There has been a lot of speculation as to why Sarah has aborted her responsibilities as governor, but given her mental make up and her mental state, she probably doesn’t know why either.
I think you’re right, she functions on instinct. At bottom I think she was afraid of the future as Governor, she’s pretty much failed to impress in that job, and she ran away.
Maybe the same pattern as her college career fleeing from one school to another.
Yay Shannyn! You look great and can’t wait for video.
To Aussie Blue Sky, yes, “Alaska Ear” really claims to be one of the few to knwo the truth. I think someone should call her to account.
Uh-OH looks like the Gov.I mean EX-Gov. has LOST Faux News.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Ecom%2Fstory%2F2009%2F7%2F5%2F750219%2F%2DPalin%2DUnleas
Good move Shannyn! You are a 1st Amendment Goddess and you represent many. I’m an artist and hold the First Amendment as one of our most important freedoms as Americans. NOBODY should ever be intimidated/bullied to keep their mouth shut…not even Buttercup can do that even though she gave it a try.
Sarah Palin is the worst kind of “American” – she is a true tyrant.
Go Shanynn. Thanks for speaking for all of us that are tired of Palin trying to censor our media, journalists, comedians, our internet, blogs. She is trying to censor every thing that offends HER.
Guess what? This isn’t N. Korea, Palin.
I think all bloggers, comedians, and journalists should unite and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH to Palin! She cannot censor US citizens.
Ha ha. IF, and that’s a really BIG IF, the soon to be former governor had any sense, she would have ignored Shannon and if the FBI are not investigating this would have blown over. Suddenly it’s all over the news and the story was given the importance it now has by they same person who wanted to squelch it.
Ha Ha. Sarah, Dave Letterman’s writers couldn’t write better material.
lily f Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 4:04 PM
To Aussie Blue Sky, yes, “Alaska Ear” really claims to be one of the few to knwo the truth. I think someone should call her to account.
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And also too sue her (and adn).
Yeah Shannyn!!!
Shannyn Moore will not be muzzeled!!!
Suck it up Buttercup!!!!!!can’t wait until she gets back from “fish pickin’ ” and catches that on the news!
Ditto to all the kudos for Shannyn. We’re so proud to know you and you have all our support.
Great job Shannyn! You have the whole blogosphere behind you and the interents buzzing. Good on you!! Your statement was perfect.
interents-internets phooie!
True dat,
Palin is a Coward who will cut and run from her elected position.
OT, but only sorta
SP tweeted (twittered?) earlier that she was heading today to western AK to the villages. Later, she mentioned joining Todd for a day of “picking fish” (while the villages aren’t allowed to fish. grrr)
I hope she finds out about this *after* the visit to the villages…
With Palin leaving office, doesn’t “The Ear’s” access to Palin seem rather silly? Or will Palin forver be gossip fodder for “The Ear”?
Shannyn, you are a true American patriot.
You rock, Shannyn!!!!!
I wonder if you’ve considered (as if you don’t have better things to do) suing for defamation? Van Fascist’s letter clearly states that you stated this as a fact, when you so clearly did NOT.
Of course, it is your right to say whatever you want– but being the responsible person you are, you measured your words and it’s not right to be defamed by a person much more powerful than you, who has access to national media whenever she wants to use it against the little guy.
Shame on you, Sarah Palin! this is an un-American as it gets!
WTG, Shannyn!!! Stand your righteous ground!
Keep up the great work! We love you in the lower 48!
I truly love coming here.You people are great.Can’t wait for her incoherant response.And we all know she will have one.
ds55 said it ALL!
Go Shannyn!
Caught the radio broadcast last eve… you don’t miss a beat!
I am proud of all the bloggers who see though GINO’s unmitigated gall and ignorance. She is one evil woman.
I wish I could think of one redeeming feature of the soon-to-be ex gov—- but there are no words.
Rock on!
If anything else happens this summer, I may just have to take off into the woods! I’ll settle for another glass of wine at this point.
I wonder when Palin will realize that throwing Alaska under the bus will hurt her more than she knows. She really loves her home state, in her way, but can she live away from it for an extended period?
Go Shannyn, AKM, and other Alaska bloggers. The truth will not be silenced.
Steve Benen @ The Washington Monthly had a good write up about how lame duck governors often affect change because they aren’t concerned about fundraising, political allies/enemies, etc. . . and then he posts a video with Les Gara!!!
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_07/018940.php
I’m so looking forward to all the news tomorrow. I hope KO will be back on .
Now Fox News and Liz Trotta are reporting the “Federal Investegation” rumors.
who’da thunk it.
LOLOL
Shannyn, you are the only Alaskan taking the contraversy to the public. The rest seem intimidated by this nutjob of a woman to speak up. Month’s before she was announced in August 08′, Alaskans were ready to impeach this woman for what they thought was questionable deals with other Party members, private contractors etc., I watched it all waiting for the legislation to do that, it never came. She got away with everything, including having people fired, paid nannies, no trips to Juneau. All of it….she won.
Alaska has let you down Shannyn, the only person speaking out. I am proud of you, the media and voters need to know, even with rumors that actually turn out to be fact.
Love your editorials. Keep up the great work.
Sarah we remember what you said during the campaign! paybacks are hell
go liz trotta go
Good stand, Shannyn. You’re on solid footing.
coward, bully, “… aborting her term as governor …” Come on deposition!
Remember “DairyGate?”
A fine statement, with just the right soundbites ready for the media to pluck. “aborting her term” comes to mind…
Count me in for a contrib. to Moore’s legal fund. Thank god some one is willing to stand up to Palin’s bullying. Moore is one gutsy woman. No one, no one, in professional politics has been willing to call Palin out for her incredibly unprofessional & disrespectful ‘acting out’ on the 4th of july. Every conversation is about whether or not she will run for pres. Who cares?! Look at how she behaved as Gov.!!! Whats more, she used Ak. to get to the next rung (albeit an unexpected leap) of her ambitions & as she has done over & over in her past, once she gets what she wants she moves on without so much as a bye your leave.In her speech she talked about what she has done for Ak. What about what Ak. has done for her? Where is her hearfelt gratitude to a state & people who elevated this nobody to become a candidate for the vice-pres. of the U.S.? How about a thanks for the 7 fig. book deal she just signed, or the millions she will rake in as a nat. circuit speaker. Talk about forgetting the little people that got you there.Palin’s had a really toxic effect on Ak. I hope that we can heal & move on. Thank you Shannyn for standing up for all of us.
Cheers to you Shannon! Keep this woman at warp speed to self destruction! She no doubt lied to her lawyer the way the memo reads. I would countersue for defamation towards you! If she wants to end the rumors, she will have to sue 3/4 of the nations citizens as hey, were all talking! Sara’s true self has come through time and again and it is not what this country wants or needs. Her personal ambitions will be her self destruction as she is well on her way! Keep up the good reporting and information flowing on this wacko case! In MN we have Bachman with her tin foil hat running her own self destruction! The extreme fanatics must be removed from any official government power!
The brave people in Alaska speaking out, keep it up. Freedom of the press is behind you all. You can change your state into the reputable state you deserve. Your leaders have sold you out, but America is listening and ready to act for Alaska. Speak out on every issue; from native rights to rape kit’s. Keep pushing for your right’s and don’t forget about health care being a given right to care, care for all.
Shannyn is one of America’s best. I wish I could send her the body armor that she needs for this mission, but I think she may have it already. Precious woman, precious mission, precious heart. Thank you.
lily f, I left you a post on the Open Thread.
It’s time for a lot of people to come out of the woodwork who have been bullied by Palin. I also think the MSM has actually been pretty soft on Palin so far, but maybe they need to start asking her the tough questions instead of letting her control the conversation. I have felt that they are all afraid of Palin’s outrage (Palin is still bashing Couric), so they play nice with her.
Isn’t the MSM tired of Palin always bashing them.
They need to take a stand like Shannyn.
thank you Aussie Blue Sky! I will go look
Whoo hoo!!! Shannyn is the woman!
I don’t know how old Shannyn’s daughter is, but I will say this. The young girl has the best mother and role model a young woman could ask for . She is a lucky girl, to have a mom who shows her by actions…what is is to be an adult…and a patriot. Well done good and faithful servant.
I wonder what Letterman’s top ten reasons Sarah Palin resigned will be tomorrow night?
10 She performed a surrogate resignation For Mark Sanford.
9. She discovered Bristol was earning more than she was.
8. She discovered Levi was earning more than she was.
anyone want to post #7?
#7. She discovered Todd was earning more than she was.
lol, it appears that Shannyn had more media than buttercup did, to f’ing funny.
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=10646276
no video yet
In one short comment, Shannon spoke volumes more than the hysterical lame-brain “dead fish” speech that Palin gave on July 3rd.
Palin has unilaterally tried to set women in politics back 50 years with her histrionic mood swings and diva act….but today Shannon has repaired some of that damage.
BTW HuffPo is AFUed… must be b/c of those stupid bloggers in the parent’s basement… etc.etc.etc.
7. She discovered that her legal defence fund combined with her governor’s salary would just barely cover a quarter of her legal expenses and decided to risk her future on the talk circuit.
6. Writing a book is HARD WORK! Especially fiction.
In one short comment, Shannon said volumes more than the hysterical-lame-brain-”dead fish” -swirling-in-a-vortex-whirlpool-down-the-commode-drain speech that Palin gave on July 3rd.
Palin has unilaterally and enthusiastically tried to set women in politics back with her histrionic mood swings and diva act….but today Shannon has repaired some of that damage.
Shannyn, I don’t know you, but mightily wish I did. Sending as many good vibes as I can from the Lower 48. You are one impressive lady!
One commenter wonders why the MSM doesn’t ask Palin the tough questions. Simple: Access. It’s a ratings bonanza to have someone like SP on a news show, so producers and anchors don’t dare offend her. Instead, they turn into simpering, obsequious fools, or else resort to polite euphemisms to describe her truly erratic behavior in order to secure the right to interview her at some later date. Anyone seen SP do an interview for CBS since the Katie Couric debacle?
Ha-ha-ha-ho-ho-ho-wheeze!!!!!!!!!
Looks like Shannyn got more press coverage than the Governator-quitter!
WTG Shannyn!
#6 She discovered Tripp & Trig were smarter than she was.
I can’t help but think of She Who Quit Again, and imagining the look on her face when she reads your statement. You know she already has. And she is NOT sitting happily outside with her family eating hot dogs, laughing at old family stories and gazing out over Lake Lucille. No, I bet she is angrily tweeting to her inner circle, cursing under her breath, and trying to figure out who she can get to take you down for what you said….(hmmm….maybe Eddie?)
Pathetic.
Gryphen has a new post, too about this also.
#3 She discovered that the scarves and flags were no longer effective in covering up all her ethics violations
Muddy: I’m so glad that you, Shanny, Mike Method and other strong progressive voices are up there at least getting the TRUTH out…It seems as if it were only Palin and her shock troops, we’d be getting the same amount of truth from Alaska as the world is getting out of Iran…KEEP ROCKIN !!!!
Pass along a HUGE thanks to Shanny……
#65 kiksadi50 Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Your post is so spot on
#2 Since she is a slow reader, she needed to devote all her time to read Mudflats, Palin’s Deceptions & The Immoral Minority.
73 London Bridges Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 4:27 PM
I wonder what Letterman’s top ten reasons Sarah Palin resigned will be tomorrow night?
10 She performed a surrogate resignation For Mark Sanford.
9. She discovered Bristol was earning more than she was.
8. She discovered Levi was earning more than she was.
7. She realized she was such a failure as Governor that even she wouldn’t vote to reelect her>
and #1
David Letterman will no longer have Governor Sarah Palin to kick around anymore.
#1 Quit? Who says she quit!! She is just moving on to a higher calling (after a period of unemployment and disgrace)
http://newsminer.com/news/2009/jul/05/liberal-blogger-says-palin-wont-silence-her/
Letterman should have a good show Monday..
10 reason out of a 100 why Sarah calls it quits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#6 She discovered van Flein was making more then she was.
#1 Bill Kristol won’t have Sarah Palin for starbursts anymore?
(I know it was Lowry with the starbursts, but Kristol was her “mentor.”
Thanks Shannyn,
I loved your speech.
I think it’s great that you are standing up to SP’s bullying tactics. Seems like too many others have not.
Way to go!!!
wow!! way to go! was great to hear you and akm last night. so proud of alaska bloggers and those who support their work….b
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Our justice system is for all of us. Surprised?
Just because you folks on the left have nearly perfected the practice of using our justice system as a cudgel to achieve in our courts what you can not achieve elsewhere doesn’t entitle you to use it as your own private playground.
Get used to it Ms. Moore…I shed not a tear for you.
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People – the Palin’s newspaper.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20289481,00.html
85 Winski Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 4:37 PM
Muddy: I’m so glad that you, Shanny, Mike Method and other strong progressive voices are up there at least getting the TRUTH out…It seems as if it were only Palin and her shock troops, we’d be getting the same amount of truth from Alaska as the world is getting out of Iran…KEEP ROCKIN !!!!
Pass along a HUGE thanks to Shanny……
Problem has been that most in the lower 48 didn’t bother to check in on Alaska’s great (I wish there were one such in Va.) bloggers to find the truth.
It has taken a multitude of Sarah’s malfunctions to even begin to enlighten the masses. Maybe this one will be the final straw PR wise, if MSM has the gumption to stand up for the 1st Amendment.
Oh, darn, that should’ve gone in the Open Thread – sorry!
The press conference is #2 story on KTUU right now.
#3 She has maxxed out all her credit cards and needs a big cash payday to buy more hair extensions
Shannon, you are amazing.
Speaking truth to idiocy is the only way.
#5 Farah Fawcett’s passing took the spot light off her
#4 Karl Malden’s passing took the spot light off her
#3 Michael Jackson’s passing took the spot light off her
#2 She needed to bring the spot light back to her and ‘one-up’ Ahmedinejad by personally censoring her opponents and calling them out by name
Just thought of something I overheard at a hair salon around 1996/1997 (elderly neighbor at the time needed a ride, so I hung around a bit) in Georgia (think heavy Southern drawl, ala Dixie Carter in Designing Women):
No matter what color you’re hair is now, sugar, your roots will always show.
I believe we are now truly seeing exactly what “roots” SP has – and they are not healthy or humane…
Shannyn Moore you are what makes Alaska beautiful and proud. As your neighbour I salute you.
Sincerely,
Canadian Eileen C. Tallon
#1 Reason ( Rumor has it )
There are pictures of Todd wearing the RNC wardrobe that has never been accounted for.
Rob in Ca Says: I can’t help but think of She Who Quit Again, and imagining the look on her face when she reads your statement. You know she already has. And she is NOT sitting happily outside…
this made me laugh. you are absolutely right. i can just imagine her, wherever she is, face blazing red and steam coming out of her nose, scribbling her thoughts furiously in crayon so she can later ask trig to spellcheck before she posts them on twitter and/or facebook, demanding her aides to find every law where punishment is specifically imprisoning bloggers and, after she is told that there are none, penning her own governor’s notice of exile to every applicable naysayer, in alaska’s best interests of course, while using her baseball bat on the computer screen to make those horrible horrible blogger words go away. right. now.
During the presidential campaign, McCain officials fretted about six or seven areas of personal and professional concern…(snip)
This official,…(snip)…said the governor’s explanations for many subjects never won full acceptance from the campaign, but the stretched-thin McCain staff decided not to pick a fight with the vice presidential pick during the final march toward November.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/05/palins-move-raises-big-qu_n_225808.html
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full acceptance= they thought she was untruthful
Six or seven? So what were all these “issues”?
Aussie Blue Sky @91
Nice comments under that Newsminer story- ha! I think they represent the base. One of the first comments said that freedom of speech only applied to the spoken word, not written. Ergo (my term), the blogs shouldn’t count for free speech. Should go right to the Supreme Court.
Thought about posing the question,” Do deaf people, therefore, have no freedom of speech?, but it required signing up and quite frankly, I don’t think it would have made a difference. Low Information Voters (LIV) are quite comfortable with limited information. Too much clogs the tubes and leads to socialism, mass abortions and pretty much anything else my uncle fears.
My point so I stay on topic- Shanynn’s actions won’t change the LIVs and that “base” they all talk about. She will remind and rally the ones fed up with the last 8 years, and the ones that are so tired of the tactics used by the religious right. Our president often said, and so did we, “yes we can.” Shanynn is reminding us that WE are the change…
Great job on the top ten reasons and Gryphen’s were great, too!
Can’t wait for tomorrow’s show!
I can’t wait to see what David Letterman and Keith Olberman have to say about this. I was looking for some new entertainment. Have been a little lost since the election and Caribou Barbie just perked me right up. I love a good street fight and have called my bookie to lay money on Shannyn.
Great job on the statement to the press and I am glad you aren’t backing down! We are with you!
#4 it fishing season in Alaska
# 5 Todd needs help cleaning fish
Ps if you need to setup a defense fund let us know over on dkos I sure we could raise few $ ;0)
‘Night Puppies… carry on in regular awesome manner!
I can’t wait either…it’s just so great we can finally say goodbye to this corny, howdy-do-dee.
Andrea Mitchell is on. She is in AK. She talked to VanFly, but he didn’t say much. Andrea Mitchell isn’t sounding real sympathetic, but she is trying to state both sides. Mitchell says she never did prove herself as governor, and cites Karl Rove as one of her sources. heh-heh-heh
AKM is on the front page of Huffpo with update/pictures of Shannyn’s presser. GO GIRLS !!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/akmuckraker/huffington-post-blogger-s_b_225817.html
Way to go, Shannyn! Thank you for speaking your mind, and for reminding Palin that free speech is the right of every American.
The NewsMiner story already has some of the Palin-bots bashing Shannon. Especially this Andrew B. fellow. He screeches on there about the Obama birth certificate. I’ve seen his nut-job ranting there before. The last one was defending Man Sour or something.
1. Toddy said that if she did not resign and come home to cook something, he was not returning from Bristol Bay.
I am not sure anyone has ever called her out in direct opposition to one of her direct threats before, like Shannyn has now. I really think this may be a new experience for Palin. Maybe she will spontaneously combust.
JHop at #105
I thought I had drawn a vivid picture of Sarah at this moment…but you totally outclassed me! Thanks for the chuckle!!
Shannon, thank you thank you thank you. You keep doing what you are doing, girl! The rest of the normal thinking country thanks you. I would think the lawsuit threat means these rumors have some merit. But we will all await the REAL reason why Palin has stepped down. I’m sure it’s a doozy. Those darn gotcha bloggers, first it was the gotcha liberal media now gotcha bloggers, what next??
Please post video!!
Go Shannyn!
#114 Honesty in Gov
That is so funny that people still care about Obama’s birth certificate. I think they should pool their money, and also call Palin and see if she can spare some money from her Pac and her Fund Trust.
Then they can take all that money and hire some attorneys and file some more lawsuits to try to get Obama to prove he is an American.
Then Obama can do that thing he does, where it looks like he is flicking a fly off the shoulder of his suit coat.
Hat’s off to Shannyn. That statement was GREAT.
Okay, this may be a bit OT but it does relate to Buttercups speech and all.
Here is what one Conservative has to say about here speech Friday. AKM, I think you will especially enjoy this little diddy!
“More on Sarah Palin’s Linguistic Ineptitude” by Conservative Blogger Nathan P. Origer
http://www.amconmag.com/postright/2009/07/05/more-on-sarah-palins-linguistic-ineptitude/
SHANNYN ROCKS!
I got her back… NO FEAR!!!
#115
Sarah the only one in the family who knows when to pull out
116 JHop Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 5:05 PM
I am not sure anyone has ever called her out in direct opposition to one of her direct threats before, like Shannyn has now. I really think this may be a new experience for Palin. Maybe she will spontaneously combust.
Can I watch? Pleeeeeae.
I can’t wait to see this online! Just shows anyone can call for a pressor, not just buttercup and Shannyn got way more people at hers!
Yeah Shannyn!
honestyingov – some of their comments are ridiculous and totally wrong, and the craziest part is that they believe them! One of my favorites:
“This is actually a very pertinent and important issue. Free speech only deals with the spoken word, not the written word. Therefore, is an internet blog covered under the free press clause? In either case, I don’t think there is a constitutional right to malign and defame another citizen with false accusations. This issue should go straight to the State Supreme Court…I don’t know Moore, but she sounds like a screeching banshee. I think she should get what she wants. A day in court. Let her defend her “right” to lie in public.”
Sweet Jesus, please go into court. I am begging. Hopefully, this commenter will represent her. You cannot go “straight” to the Supreme Court (unless Alaska doesn’t have a lower court, but I find that hard to believe). And free speech does not only cover the spoken word, that is INSANE. Obviously the written word is included. Even money and donations. Advertisements. Art is free speech. Tattoos are free speech. I could go on…
I don’t want to register for that site, but I kind of want to tell them off in one swift kick in the constitutional ass.
Does anyone besides me think it is funny that Van Flein came up with a four page “quasi-legal letter” in less than 24 hours on a holiday weekend, with quotes from media in Ak. from 6 years ago? Does anyone think maybe this had already been requested from the Feds prior?
oops – talk about linguistic ineptitude, I wrote Buttercups speech instead of Buttercup’s speech. Well, at least I’m not an elected official with poor grammer! lol
123 Marnie Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 5:14 PM
116 JHop Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 5:05 PM
I am not sure anyone has ever called her out in direct opposition to one of her direct threats before, like Shannyn has now. I really think this may be a new experience for Palin. Maybe she will spontaneously combust.
Can I watch? Pleeeeeae.
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Get that on video and it would break all youtube records !!
I have never read this guy but this is too funny:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-schweber/sarah-palin-the-first-ame_b_225906.html
116 JHop Says:
… I really think this may be a new experience for Palin. Maybe she will spontaneously combust…
*breaking out the marshmallows*
s’mores anyone?
Fox has the palin fluff program on right now. I just heard Parnell on npr he quoted the 2 million dollars it is costing the taxpayers for ethic charges. I guess they think he will never be challenged for ethics.
GO SHANNYN! WE GOT YOUR BACK!
Sahannyn won’t go down. NO WAY!!!
They don’t call them wing nuts for nothing.
Why is Fox doing a “this was her life” show on Palin? Did she die?
A bit OT, but I have no choice but to bring this to y’alls attention: a new “aka” for SP!
The Vanilla Guerrilla from Wasilla
From here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-weber/the-high-calling-of-a-low_b_225842.html
I got to the last paragraph I what I listed above and I see that Mr. Schweber sees the same pie in the sky as I did, lol. Shannyn a lot of people are willing to help you, me too, I am a long way away but I will do what I can.
@Sue, they know her political career is toast. Even FOX knows that.
JHop Says:
I don’t want to register for that site, but I kind of want to tell them off in one swift kick in the constitutional ass.
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Don’t waste your time. That’s the way they are up there. Their ignorance is the only thing that keeps them warm.
*waves to tewise*, who found same article….
More solidarity for Shannyn and the blogesphere !!!
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Howard SchweberAssociate Professor of Political Science and Law at the University of Wisconsin-Madison
Posted: July 5, 2009 03:59 PM
Sarah Palin, the First Amendment, and Santa Claus
Dear Santa,
Sarah Palin, through her attorney, is threatening to sue Shannyn Moore for reporting the existence of rumors about a pending investigation of Palin’s dealings with a firm called Spenard Building Supply and various contractors, in connection with the construction of the Wasilla Sports Complex and the Palin residence. The implication is that investigators suspect corruption. Palin categorically denies the implication and is threatening to sue for libel.
oh please, oh please, oh please
That American protection for free speech goes farther than that in other countries is a cause for celebration on this July 4th weekend. Nonetheless there are serious questions when involuntary public figures, or non-political public figures, or especially the family members of public figures are swept within the ambit of the Gertz rule.
But! Governor Palin isn’t threatening to sue people who say bad things about her children, or even her husband. She is threatening to sue a blogger who accurately reported the existence of rumors of an investigation of wrongdoing by her in her at a time when she was already a government official.
Please-please-please. I’ll never ask for another thing, I promise.
Now, I haven’t practiced law in a while, and I do not have a current Bar membership. But I will go get one if Shannyn Moore will let me represent her. The thought of the deposition of Governor Palin alone is enough to make it worth the money, but that’s only the tip of the iceberg; a motion for sanctions followed by a counter-suit for vexatious litigation is just begging to be heard.
Oh please, oh please, oh please. I’ll do the dishes and put the cap on the toothpaste and everything.
Never mind Santa. Shannyn? Fellow Huffpo blogger? Are you listening? Pleeeeease?
Read MORE here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-schweber/sarah-palin-the-first-ame_b_225906.html
Excellent piece on dailykos (standing up for Shannyn)
“So much for respect for the Constitution and “BOTTOM UP” government. So much for protecting individual rights. I mean, you do understand that you, the highest elected executive branch official in the state of Alaska, just through your lawyer threatened an Alaskan citizen with legal action for speech that you don’t like. Did I miss something, or does that seem an awful lot like “TOP DOWN” big government take-over in the area of individual rights. I mean, I like mixed sports metaphors as much as the next person, but we aren’t talking about the full court press in a football game or an “audible” in a basketball game here. We are talking fundamentally about the organized effort on the part of a government official to chill speech that may be personally uncomfortable for her and the conduct of her office. To put in terms with which you seem more comfortable Governor, it’s time to call a technical foul on your effort to chill speech.
There is another sports metaphor that your July 3, 2009 speech called to mind. It’s called the Hail Mary pass. It’s basically thrown in desperation as a last resort when the game is about to end. Good luck with that “audible”.”
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/5/750296/-Sarahs-Hail-Mary-Pass
Whoops…different articles after all tewise, but yours has some good nuggets in it to…
Kentucky here! I think we all have Shannyn back
The 5:00 Channel 2 news, KTUU was on – Shannyn looked good. They didn’t cover her side of the story as much as they covered Buttercup’s. More air time for Van Fleas than for Shannyn. But she got her point across. I am hoping CNN will pick it up.
I am sending this t-shirt to sarah tomorrow. Hope I don’t get sued……….
http://rlv.zcache.com/rehab_is_for_quitters_tshirt-p2350399563123186823sg9_400.jpg
Freedom’s on the march
It’s a bit odd that the trashy “look at me” Palin is spreading the wealth around, but Shannyn’s voice will be louder the more attention she gets.
http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/2009/07/palins-resignation-proud-to-be-trash.html
JHop Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 5:14 PM
honestyingov – some of their comments are ridiculous and totally wrong, and the craziest part is that they believe them! One of my favorites:
.
Dollars to doughnuts this idiot you quoted watches Fox News and is totally unaware of this..:)
.
“A Florida Appeals court ruled there is absolutely nothing illegal about lying, concealing or distorting information by a major press organization. The court reversed the $425,000 jury verdict in favor of journalist Jane Akre who charged she was pressured by Fox Television management and lawyers to air what she knew and documented to be false information.”
http://www.propeller.com/story/2009/06/28/court-ruling-fox-news-has-a-first-amendment-right-to-lie/
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Hmmm…read the tewsie link…that’s the same article I posted over at the older thread…
Even better read the second time around!
Heard another RUMOR. Has to do with one of the ethics complaints about Alaska Fund Trust. And making money while governor. RUMOR is that the complaint could stick and everything would be released and made public or she could resign and take the money & run. WHOOOOAA. If this is not a RUMOR (and I am not talking about Demi Moore’s daughter), then the three weeks time will give her sometime to work the trust into something more usable legally when she leaves her “titled” position.
Just a thought, just a RUMOR.
I can just imagine Scarah reading all the blogs, Twitters and then the pressor!
OMG, her head has to be exploding!
Shannyn is a Real American Hero!
What the hell is an ‘audible?’ Anderson Cooper and I want to know.
Cassie Jeep Pike Palin #106 Says:
During the presidential campaign, McCain officials fretted about six or seven areas of personal and professional concern…(snip) they thought she was untruthful. Six or seven? So what were all these “issues”?
Palingates has about 25 issues, all horrific – take your pick, could be “any of them, all of them”…………..
Sue #133 says: Why is Fox doing a “this was her life” show on Palin? Did she die?
In a way, yes – her career is dead, and even FOX knows it.
Now when this hits the fan and Palin calls Von Feline in a fit of apoplexy I hope he tells her “Told you so. Now…sit down and shut up.”
There’s never a Stever Schmidt around when you need one.
Our hero Shanny
in a manner quite canny,
knocked Governor Zero
back on her fanny.
Brava, Shannyn!
There are four words that come to mind after reading Shannyn’s statement:
intelligence
dignity
integrity
courage
Shannyn clearly is familiar with all of these qualities. Buttercup may want to look them up in the dictionary.
I may be a long way from Alaska, but even from here I sense a big change in the wind. People appear to finally be ready to speak up and demand better than the way things have always been, led in great part by the wonderful Alaskan bloggers. I think the next few years will be a very exciting time to live in Alaska. Can I watch from here, pretty please???? Maybe even come and visit???
oklad – interesting facts about fox in the case you cited. florida is known for their “sunshine laws,” they are one of the most media-friendly jurisdictions, if not the most, in the nation.
i am still just in awe of the press release. their purpose was to get everyone to STOP talking. could they have done something stupider? it has blown up in their face! rumors aside and everything else, even if we take her at her word that she is just quitting to help people, this had to be the worst start to any new chapter in the saga that is sarah.
Please give generously
See my new public service initiative:
http://bgladd.com/SkinGrafts4Sarah.org
I know we’re all suffering from compassion fatigue these days, but this is vital to the nation.
Pay it forward.
I’m laughing over the “freedom of speech only applies to speech” notion. Where on earth would someone get that idea? Most of the high profile First Amendment cases involved written communication–the parody of Jerry Falwell in Hustler, for example. All of the National Enquirer cases involving celebrities. The reporting of Richard Jewell as the Atlanta bomber. I could go on and on. Anyone who has done the most elementary reading on freedom of speech would know that. Who ARE these people?
sarah and the media……..in her own words.
http://wonkette.com/409665/sarah-palins-advice-for-lady-politicians-ignore-mean-old-media
Great speech Shannyn!
i need to do some work – but i cannot stop coming back to the flats to see what is happening. everytime i go away for even an HOUR i come back and there is a new post or a blogger news conference or more RUMORS !!!
this is the wildest dang fourth of july i have ever witnessed. and the best part is that it apparently is not a dream…..sarah took the big nosedive and now we are just writing up the history books and cleaning up loose ends.
oh– and i pledge $$ to the ms. moore’s Defend the Blogger Free Speech fund whenever it gets put together.
also — wonder if palin gets a signal on that fish-picking boat? her blackberry is gonna have all kinds of URGENT messages on it — yeah that’s what i think.
Someone just posted this over at Huffpo. It is KO talking about Palin’s scandals last October! Ya know….rumors and such. He he!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jAid_HTGnI
Geesh… none o’youse guys even responded to gotwoodtosmell… what’s a p’lander like him gonna do if ya alls ignore him? Man… must be a tough world for the sarahkin trolls these days.
Anyways… not that I’m a shoe man or anything but I did notice that Shannyn’s footwear seems so much more sense-able than what the Abortinator was wearing the other day. And Shannyn did not appear to be on hillybilly heroin or whatever it was that was making the Abortinator so jumpy the other day.
Donna… in response to your question: I call “these people”… fools.
@wired differently
An audible is a football term. It is when the quarterback changes the play he just called in the huddle by calling out a different play “audibly” when the team is lined up on the line of scrimmage. It is a last second change of “plan”.
Dear Gov. Palin:
Rumors? You’re worried about rumors? Well, cool, cuz I got some more for you to worry about. Please have your attorney get in touch with me and let me know which one(s) piss you off the most.
Thanks,
Yours In Christ and/or Witchdoctor,
J-Dog, A Hated Liberal Blog Poster
Please read and select YOUR favorite(s):
1.) Sarah was pregnant at 18, and had an abortion(s) – and the news is gonna come out.
2.) Sarah came on to Levi – and wanted more. He is about to Tell All
3.) “Sarah” Palin is really “Sam” Palin, and Todd wants “her” to come out.
4.) Sara is pregnant – with John’s Baby!
5.) Sarah is pregnant – and doesn’t know who the father is?!
6.) Sarah is an idiot that thinks Africa is a Country!
that’s as good a label as any, sauerkraut. I can go with that.
RECENT ARTICLES:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124683501038397841.html
WSJ has a harsh editorial on governor evil muppet.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/us/06palin.html?ref=global-home
NYT on Parnell citing “ethics complaints and legal bills” for resignation (there has been a big focus on this; maybe their is some truth to an ethics board deal, but she is painting it like she is doing alaska a favor – i will just resign, so i don’t waste anymore taxpayer money, because if i don’t i will definitely being going to court again)
JHop… that press release is what happens when they start give law degrees to any old dumbarse. If Van Flein thought it was great strategy, then he failed as a strategist. If he sent it because the Abortinator told him to, then he failed as a counselor. If he sent it because he thought it might actually make people shut up, then he failed at learning the law. Might I suggest that Van Flein at least read the pedestrian stuff like “what they didn’t teach at yale law school” by Mark McCormack?
donna — my guess is that folks that spew that nonsense about free speech being “oral only” are not people that read or research or do anything other than repeat what they heard on the radio.
i just got finished driving about 600 miles through indiana, illinois, and missouri and believe me when i tell you that there is all kinds of crazy crap being said on the radio. half the channels are religious (including an actual PLAY read on the radio about some man trying to decide if he should be adulterous – i kid you not – and some other characters explaining to him how it is not god’s way)…..and the other half are country or 70-80’s rock. it is almost surreal really.
oh and while we are talking about NPR — they are BEHIND the issues. very very behind. i don’t understand that.
okay – back to pretending to work
What’s wrong with her?!? Dude, Sarah Palin is crazier than Syd Barrett on an acid trip.
~~~~waving to mike1946 from eastern Kentucky!
Shanynn~ You are an inspiration to all women…I am so proud of you…IF you need $$$ ..just put the word out and it will be yours…Maybe Silly Sarah should see just how a professinal women actually conducts herself..You are a 10..Thankyou AKM also for giving me this piece of heaven…:))
We are wishing Shannyn the best..I will be concerned for you until this is over..those people are pure evil..
So like… um… Shannyn… are you going to drop your hat into the ring?? You could use Phil as your campaign manager. I bet he’d do it if you ask real nice like.
Wired Differently @172
The term is from football, not basketball. (shocking I know)
An audible in football occurs when a quarterback calls out numbers and colors and the offensive players shift into a new formation before a play. This means the quarterback has changed a play at the line of scrimmage after reading the defense.
Brilliant move to call Bailin’ Paylin on her bluff. She’s a shrill, thin-skinned sociopath who took Alaska by storm but who revealed her true colors under the harsh lights of the national spotlight. Only a few people in Alaska, none more important than you, were crucial in revealing her illegal and immoral activities. How fitting she chose to quit the day before a national holiday rather than fulfilling her obligations. Honoring commitments is only for the peasants, not for the self-professed royalty.
All David Letterman will have to do tomorrow night is just say….Sarah Palin, and shake his head..
Just stand there, shaking his head and not say another word…..
The crowd will break into applause and laughter.
Because that is all she really has become, a JOKE.
She may be as stupid as W, but at least W listened to someone that got him elected. Will she listen to anybody?
wondering::::
what happened to the ox musk thingy miss sarah?
She uses audible in just about every speech. She was a sportscaster you know. Gag me with a spoon.
He probably went to Liberty University.
Fox News- Ann Coulter says Sarah is to big for Alaska….Alaskans, I think Sarah just threw you under the bus!!! GO SHANNYN
waving back at you justafarmer for western ky here graves co.
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/04/27/1/Chatman_complaint.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf
that is the ethics complaint about the trust. you guys have probably seen it, and i apologize if you have. but we have been talking about it all day and i have been really curious about exactly what was alleged. after reading the complaint, i think there is merit to it. or, at the very least, i do not see any way that an ethics board could dismiss it outright as baseless.
there would have to be an inquiry asking palin to offer an explanation for these allegations. a demand for accounting to show the profits and how they are being spent. i don’t see any legal way to simply dismiss this complaint.
I looked Van Flein is not in Dickipedia. Should be.
198 winkwinkWA Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Fox News- Ann Coulter says Sarah is to big for Alaska
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He should know..:)
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Shannyn: You have revived the definition of an admiable Alaskan woman. thank you.
JHop
I got a “404 not found” with that link, dangit.
Nan
Sandra, not sure if that was amiable or admirable.
Actually, both apply to our Shannyn!
Mudflats was mentioned in a Wall Street Journal article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124680788967696341.html
–begin quote
In recent weeks, bloggers began posting rumors of a supposed federal investigation into Gov. Palin’s affairs. “There’s something big…something really big that’s headed her way; the iceberg that’s headed for the S.S. Palin,” a blog called The Mudflats suggested.
On Saturday, Gov. Palin’s lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, attacked as “false and defamatory” allegations that the real reason she stepped down was some criminal investigation. He singled out Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, who also posted the rumors. Ms. Moore said there was nothing defamatory about what she wrote.
–end quote–
I saw that, and noted that the part about it being a rumor got left out. AKM
Does the FBI really just tell anybody, “No there is no investigation” if they ask. That does not seem right. So if crook just calls up and asks, the FBI says “No, mr crook, we aren’t investigating you, wink wink”
She did the same thing to David Letterman, all the late night comedians had basically told the same jokes about Bristol being knocked up, but she only targeted Dave.
http://media.adn.com/smedia/2009/04/27/17/Chatman_complaint.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf
does that work?
http://touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/Statutes/Title39/Chapter52.htm
and this is the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. the statute under which she could be held liable….
JHop (209)
Worked like a charm. Go figure.
thanks
Nan
So how many stupid people have given her money. She will be laughing all the way to the bank, while she is taking money from poor people like she is a TV Evangelist, she will be living the good life with her millions of dollars from speaking and pretending to write books.
If she had just kept her mouth shut, she might have had a little bit of a chance with only Letterman back next week and Michael Jackson’s funeral on Tuesday.
But now she’s gone and done it. Attacking Shannyn in such a stupid way is giving it legs. First amendment attack on the Fourth of July by the still Governor of Alaska on a blogger?
Letterman will shred her.
And if whatever it is hits the fan when Stewart and Colbert come back they’ll do to her what they are so very, very good at.
I *almost* feel sorry for her. Almost.
But sometimes stupid people just have to get whacked upside the head until you can get their attention. Palin hasn’t been paying attention for years.
@JHop
Didn’t Andree McLeod file that ethics complaint? You should reach out to her for input on this. She might be on the forum.
Shannyn you are the most amazing woman. I have shivers just thinking of the courage it took to call WINO out on this! I am awed. Your daughter is one lucky young woman, and Alaskans are lucky to have your voice!!
Shannyn, if you’re reading this, from a fellow sourdough – thankyou, thankyou, thankyou. You are doing what I wish I had the wherewithal to do. You are helping to turn this state around to the state we can be proud of. I hope you NEVER STFU!
You deserve a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. I and many others will stand by you and defend you and support you!!!!!
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
Wonder why Shannyn wasn’t interviewed by Andre Mitchell since she is on MSNBC so much.? Maybe tomorrow she will be if Andre is still here. Surely she didn’t fly all the way to Ak. just to do a 3 min. report in front of Sarah’s house. Very strange to me
This is what she said in her speech about free speech and she wants everybody else to shut up? She has dilusional disorder.
Life is too short to compromise time and resources… it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: “Sit down and shut up”, but that’s the worthless, easy path; that’s a quitter’s way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and “go with the flow”.
kejia Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Mudflats was mentioned in a Wall Street Journal article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124680788967696341.html
–begin quote
In recent weeks, bloggers began posting rumors of a supposed federal investigation into Gov. Palin’s affairs. “There’s something big…something really big that’s headed her way; the iceberg that’s headed for the S.S. Palin,” a blog called The Mudflats suggested.
On Saturday, Gov. Palin’s lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, attacked as “false and defamatory” allegations that the real reason she stepped down was some criminal investigation. He singled out Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, who also posted the rumors. Ms. Moore said there was nothing defamatory about what she wrote.
–end quote–
I saw that, and noted that the part about it being a rumor got left out. AKM
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I got so mad I emailed the writer with a number of corrections to his story.
Dear all,
There is a move on Daily Kos to use Twitter to protest Sarah’s latest threat and provide cover for Shannyn:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/5/750332/-Tweet-it-from-the-laptops:-Sarah,-SUE-ME!
Mudflatters, this is a call to action! If you read this comment, please repost it in your own comment box so that it gains traction. Let’s tweet right back at Sarah in a coordinated way . . .
Shannyn, I can’t believe how much support and empathy you are getting on all the stories about this….it is amazing! You, AKM and all the rest are the catalysts for all of this and I send my thanks to all of you. I can’t wait to see what happens next. Lol……this is better than any drama on tv.
Keep it up!
Mattie Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:26 PM
This is what she said in her speech about free speech and she wants everybody else to shut up? She has dilusional disorder.
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The “sit down and shut up” refrain started a few weeks ago and she is bashing it to death. It’s like we’re re-living “I told Congress thanks but no thanks” all over again.
It sure would be nice if Andree McLeod would write something for AKM here.
She needs to put something out there. First… about Buttercup resigning and now the whole Palin suing Shannyn thing.
I did see her post on the ADN comments ,story of July 3rd. Her comment.
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AndreeMcLeod wrote on 07/03/2009 04:41:02 PM:
Note to Sean and Craig.
Make sure you use your secured and protected state-supplied email accounts when you conduct offical business.
ANd Sean? Will you be collecting per diem while not incurring any additional expenses for staying in your condo while in Anchorage?
Or will you refuse to collect the per diem because it is the right thing to do?
Don’t forget Rupert Murdock the same guy that owns foxnews owns the Wall Street Journal. They aren’t going to say anything bad about Sarah or any other conservative.
I thought Twitter was one way only, for sending only.
I can’t imagine Sarah Palin reading anything anyone else sent out on Twitter.
Unless it was ABOUT her.
Grass roots ridicule. That’s good.
“So sue me”.
I don’t have a Twitter account. But I can see Sarah shutting down her account in 24 hours.
Group Hug!!!
Thank you, Shannyn, for standing up to Palin. I hope those who are holding secrets too afraid of the Heath/Palin clan will stand up, too. Kick dust on those monkey shoes!!
Thanks Shannyn, AKM, Gryphen, Celtic Diva, and all bloggers! Thank you all for all the good work you have done. Palin is a liar. Liar, liar, pants on fire!! Sue me.
Hearts to all!!!
Shannyn, thanks for speaking out. You have my support as well as many others. Your voice will not be ignored.
The Andree McLeod complaint was dismissed already, it was about the fund violating ethics by having its own hiring practice or something like that.
After reading the executive branch statute, there is a lot that Palin could be liable for. Especially:
AS 39.52.120. Misuse of Official Position.
(a) A public officer may not use, or attempt to use, an official position for personal gain, and may not intentionally secure or grant unwarranted benefits or treatment for any person.
(b) A public officer may not…
(2) accept, receive, or solicit compensation for the performance of official duties or responsibilities from a person other than the state;
the trust seems to violate these, on its face.
After listening to Sarah Palin talk to the American people for the last 9 months I have something to say.
Palin talks in riddles. What do I exactly mean by that?
“Sarah Palin never says quite exactly what she means, and she never means quite exactly what she says.”
Spread that all over the internet.
But what is also interesting, is that the complaint (which has NOT been dismissed) was filed in April. According to the law:
AS 39.52.335. Summary of Disposition of Complaints and Review By Personnel Board.
(a) When the attorney general initiates or receives a complaint under AS 39.52.310, the attorney general shall immediately forward a copy of the complaint to the personnel board.
(b) Each month, the attorney general shall file a report with the personnel board concerning the status of each pending complaint and the resolution of complaints that have been closed since the previous report.
(c) If a complaint is dismissed under AS 39.52.320 or resolved under AS 39.52.330 , the attorney general shall promptly prepare a summary of the matter and provide a copy of the summary to the personnel board and the complainant.
So, since the complaint is 3 months old, it appears that the personnel board is either still investigating it or holding off on a decision. That is strange considering how quickly many other complaints have been dismissed.
another one make the rec list
In Sarah Palin we see someone unusually narcissistic, even for a public figure who seeks the limelight. I’ve never met her and would never try to diagnose someone at a distance. Yet she is certainly not crazy, and I doubt anyone could say she has a narcissistic personality disorder. She seems far too successful in all aspects of her life for that to be the case. Yet her exaggerated sense of her own worth, her indifference to the rights and feelings of others, her denial of unpleasant realities, her fondness for trivial lies easily disproved, her nonchalant self-pride, and her intemperate rage against anyone who challenges her self-appraisal suggest to me that ‘narcissistic’ is a useful adjective for describing her.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/5/750219/-Palin-Unleashed:-The-Train-Wreck-Begins
Thanks to every single one of the brave and outspoken people who know how dangerous it is for SP to have any part in the governing of any part of our country. It’s all been disgusting.
ann
Those of us over at FreeRangeTalk.com fully support you in this. If you need help with a defense fund let me know: Admin@freerangetalk.com and we will do what we can to raise you some money.
Not that I think she is actually going to sue. It is all talk, just like every other bully.
Finally, it appears that action can be taken to compel:
(h) If the disposition of a complaint is not made public…an interested party may file an action against the state in superior court requesting that the court make public the complaint, the attorney general’s disposition of the complaint, and the personnel board report.
Palin talks in riddles. She never says exactly what she means and she never means exactly what she says.
I continue my call for donations:
http://bgladd.com/SkinGrafts4Sarah.org
Give generously. A woman is suffering mightily, and her incipient COBRA coverage won’t pay for this procedure.
Bless you all.
Hmmm, wonder if SP/TVF/MS can read what’s below. If they can’t, maybe we can come up with some new “code” to explain their absurdity in attacking “rumors”.
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Only great minds can read this:
This is weird, but interesting!
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Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
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phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde
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pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot
slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.
@JHop
I’ve been wondering about this. Do you get the impression that an Alaskan can file to open the report? I firmly believe the ((RUMOR)) that the LDF was found by the investigator as unethical according to the EBEA, and a deal was struck to allow Palin to step down if she wanted to keep the money. If not, or if her attorney appealed the decision, it would be made public via the courts. Bottom line: she couldn’t continue on as governor and keep the LDF.
Thoughts??
What happened to the investigation by APOC into the Palin’s request that Artic Cat gifts are proprietary info and don’t have to be reported on the states financial disclosure forms?
Is this an issue that may have legs?
POLITICO: “We are not investigating her,” FBI spokesman Eric Gonzalez told the paper. “Normally we don’t confirm or deny those kind of allegations out there but by not doing so it just casts her in a very bad light. There is just no truth to those rumors out there in the blogosphere.”
so who wants to call the alaska branch of the IRS and ask them next?
Aloha from Juneau – it’s almost 7:00 pm and it’s still 80 and sunny outside.
We spent the weekend in Gustavus, Alaska – “Glacier Bay” area. Gustavus has a neat little parade every year. We were all entertained by the full size Cutout of Palin this guy was walking in the Parade with. Around GINO’s neck was “UNEMPLOYED PALIN” WILL WORK FOR BEER OR FISH. Hope to get a photo.
My favorite southeast pilot wrote in his flight log on July 3, 2009 – Alaska celebrated Independence Day from Governor Palin. There were lots of campfires burning in harmony around the State of Alaska this weekend.
Palin’s behavior with Shannon Moore is just one more piece of the puzzle. Thank you Shannon. Anyway, will keep posted and hit the ground running if necessary. :-} the Alaskan way. Anyway, way to stand tall for all of us.
There were campfires around the state this weekend – celebrating the peace that has come over Alaska. We are Blessed – United We Stand Alaskans and the whole rest of the entire world!
And Shannon Moore – we gave you a shout out and some fireworks at our campfire in Gustavus! Hip Hip Hooray!
JHop Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Finally, it appears that action can be taken to compel:
(h) If the disposition of a complaint is not made public…an interested party may file an action against the state in superior court requesting that the court make public the complaint, the attorney general’s disposition of the complaint, and the personnel board report.
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And a really BIG thank you! This may well be the smoking gun. I printed the complaint and will read in detail in the morning. Where are you in NY? One kid there but we are in NC.
@PepperzMom
Weird, but I figured it out….
Of course, I was the annoying student in the back of the class that caught all of my teachers’ typos, to their dismay. I do miss many of my own
PS, JHOP–
IRS will answer NOTHING. Accountants already know this.
Way to go, Shannyn!
The Girl From Homer Takes On Whack Job’s Hack Job!
I doubt anyone thought you yourself would be intimidated. They may have hoped to intimidate those who publish your stuff, but the real purpose might have been just to get Palin’s “version of the facts” out, and the threat of suit was a pretext (she wouldn’t seem to be responding to a rumor, because that would imply she’s responsible to the people) and to make it newsworthy. That would have been unethical, and in any case it was badly miscalculated, but is anyone surprised?
has anyone checked to see how much property taxes they pay on that little house that Todd built with his little hands????
GOOD LORD I am never leaving my computer again. This is EXTRAORDINARY to have AKM and Shannyn getting Palin foaming so bad she exposed herself and on the Fourth Of July….beautiful.
The screaming on Twitter by the Twit just makes her insanity that much more entertaining.
Everyone knows Palin is a jerk and a dumbass now without question.
@JHop
I’d be glad to call the IRS. Will they confirm or deny? I’m a medical professional always thinking about HIPAA……
JHop: I get that your new. Welcome. Your posting about ethics complaints and such should not be posted here. Every day AKM provides an “Open Forum,” where folks can post and discuss off-topic issues. It is a catch all for anything, really.
So, please take your ethics complaints postings there. Thanks.
Since when does the FBI comment on active investigations or make official comments to quash “Rumors”? This is total B*S* was Eric Gonzo the FBI spokes guy saying there is no investigation a pal of Palin’s?
Ya know what they say…when the FEDS have to go on record denying something then something is really going on.
JHOP———–
Here is some info….http://alaskapride.blogspot.com/2009/04/here-we-go-again-kim-chatman-of-eagle.html
@NYHawk
I respectfully disagree. The ethics complaints we have been discussing are apart of the “Rumor” issue.
SecretShopperforHungryChildren – it seems that eventually, yes, an alaskan (and in particular, the complainant) can make a request for the report to be made public. but the investigation must be complete and a decision made, neither of which has happened yet.
first:
(c) If the report prepared under this section is confidential, it is not available for public inspection unless formal proceedings under AS 39.52.350 are initiated based on the report. If formal proceedings are initiated, the relevant portions of the report are public documents open to inspection. The attorney general shall, however, make available to the public a summary of the reports received under this section, with sufficient deletions to prevent disclosure of a person’s identity.
(so palin has a BIG interest in ensuring that there are no formal proceedings, which would then make the information open to the public. this could have affected her decision to resign)
BUT, even if it was confidential:
(h) If the disposition of a complaint is not made public…an interested party may file an action against the state in superior court requesting that the court make public the complaint, the attorney general’s disposition of the complaint, and the personnel board report. The court may order the matter or portions of the matter made public if the court determines that
(1) the dismissal or resolution of the complaint was clearly contrary to the requirements of this chapter;
(2) one or more of the allegations in the information to be released is supported by substantial evidence;
(3) the matter concerns the public interest; and
(4) release of the information will not infringe on any protected rights or liberties of the subject.
so it appears that, once there is a decision one way or the other, a request can be made to compel the release of the report.
JHOP————-
and this–http://issueswire.com/releases/2009/04/prweb2319464.htm
i’ll stop if i am offending anyone NYHawk. But the response has been pretty positive. still, i am not meaning to annoy anyone. i sincerely apologize if i am.
secret shopper: I am in NYC (but my family lives in Wilmington, NC. And I went to Duke and UNC, so I am quite familiar with the area!)
Ann Coultergeist is full of crap, and of course Buttercup is too big for Alaska, but only in her widdle pea brain.
Has Shannyn’s press conference been mentioned on Palin’s website– what’s it called? ADN.com? Did they say anything?.
Ian Masters at HuffPo interviewed Shannyn this morning. He has a link for people to listen.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-masters/shannyn-moore-radio-inter_b_225912.html
252 SecretShopperforHungryChildren Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:03 PM
@NYHawk
I respectfully disagree. The ethics complaints we have been discussing are apart of the �Rumor� issue.
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JHop Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 7:07 PM
i�ll stop if i am offending anyone NYHawk. But the response has been pretty positive. still, i am not meaning to annoy anyone. i sincerely apologize if i am.
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I didn’t see at that way “Secret Shopper.” I concede. Never mind, please carry on. I was remembering that AKM made it a point recently to remind folks to use the “Open Forum” when necessary.
I drink too much coffee, too, also.
211 Mattie Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Does the FBI really just tell anybody, “No there is no investigation” if they ask. That does not seem right.
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Your sense of something not seeming right is correct. Federal agencies typically do not comment on ongoing criminal investigations. Usually, they neither admit nor deny – especially if no Grand Jury has been empaneled.
Yeah Shannon. Great job (from a fan in Illinois)!
Do we know if Dennis Z. was there filming this? Good luck Shannyn..you are one brave girl. Thinking of you from Oregon.
JHOP-
Kid # 4 is in NYC but kid # 3 went to Duke and UMass (while we were PA residents).
NYC daughter would like to buy you a round, on me, sometime!
Welcome to the Mudflats, the most cerebral of the Alaskan Blogs!
What Van Flein posted on c4p yesterday about a suit was for one reason. To fleece the c4p’s for money. Sarah’s defence fund came out on top. The Palins own a Carnival and Van Flein is just a part of Sarah’s Carney Crew. Van Flein is embarrassed by what he had to do, but he’ll get paid for it. All carney people get paid, but they all get cheated when the seasons over.
Where is Shannyn’s press release video. Sure would like to view it!
Wow – Alaskans really got themselves a real ‘piece of work’ in Mzzz Palin.
She certainly has delusions of adequacy…
this is on topic. the NY examiner has also picked up the Shannyn story:
http://www.examiner.com/x-12837-US-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m7d5-Shannyn-Moore-on-Sarah-Palin-defamation-lawsuit
Cassie – I would love to meet your daughter for a drink! I have been slammed with work since I moved back up here, so I would also just love to meet some cool people. When did #3 graduate from Duke?
JHop Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:54 PM
POLITICO: “We are not investigating her,” FBI spokesman Eric Gonzalez told the paper. “Normally we don’t confirm or deny those kind of allegations out there but by not doing so it just casts her in a very bad light. There is just no truth to those rumors out there in the blogosphere.”
so who wants to call the alaska branch of the IRS and ask them next?
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Is it just me or has everyone else noticed that whenever the FBI denial is mentioned it *always* refers back to that *one* item in the L.A. Times?
None of the reporters has bothered to confirm it for themselves. It would be so easy to do also too …..
I’m waiting to hear the story behind that FBI agent’s making himself available — on a Saturday– just to deny a rumor. As others have said, not only is this highly unusual, but IIRC, the rumor was that SP’s resignation was prompted by an impending indictment — and the office to confirm or deny that rumor would be the AK US Attorney’s office, not the FBI, since the FBI may not be involved. From the AK US Attorney’s website, (www.usdoj.gov/usao/ak/criminal/index.html):
“Felony offenses are brought to the attention of the United States Attorney’s Office in a variety of ways. In many instances, federal prosecutors are involved in a federal task force which is pursuing a pending investigation. The Assistant United States Attorney involved in this type of case is often actively involved in identifying targets, developing investigative strategy, advising undercover officers about different approaches, drafting search warrants and other court process, and finally, working with a grand jury to not only discover evidence, but to select appropriate charges.
“In other cases, a complaint may be brought to the attention of the United States Attorney’s Office or to the appropriate investigative agency. If brought first to the United States Attorney’s Office, the complaint will be forwarded to the agency. While this Office generally supplies guidance and legal advice, the agencies are primarily responsible for investigating federal offenses prior to the time the United States Attorney’s Office initiates prosecution.
“The chief investigative agencies are: Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), US Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Internal Revenue Service (IRS), Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), Secret Service, Postal Inspection Service, Department of Interior, Federal Aviation Administration, US Coast Guard, and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).”
We got your back in DC Shannon! Just do us a favor, please keep her in Alaska, we put so much energy into kicking her out of our great city!
Fox News- Ann Coulter says Sarah is to big for Alaska
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Looking at the rapidly aging Mzz Coulter, I would suggest she is well past her ‘best before’ date.
JHOP———-
email me at Cassiefarrelly (at) nc (dot) rr (dot)com.
OT, but Duke 1998 Women’s soccer.
Just a reminder for Sarah from the Alaska Constitution
http://ltgov.state.ak.us/constitution.php?section=3
§ 4. Term of Office
The term of office of the governor is four years, beginning at noon on the first Monday in December following his election and ending at noon on the first Monday in December four years later.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/854318.html
i am not sure if the ADN talked to the FBI dude himself, or just repeating information already published. But there is more about Shannyn in here too.
“Van Flein responded Sunday that it is not about muzzling. Palin is entitled to respond to lies, he said. “The Constitution allows anyone to print what they want, but it does not say you can do so with impunity and with a total disassociation from reality … to be blunt: falsely implying that the governor, or her husband, are under federal investigation, is not free speech, ” Van Flein said.”
he is completely misinterpreting the law. there was not a total disassociation from reality, considering we STILL dont know if the rumors are true and hundreds of other sites reference them. and it is free speech to report on rumors of public concern about a public official. no one has said palin is guilty of [whatever]; rumors have simply been discussed. so unless Shannyn knew the rumor was false when she made the statement, she IS protected by the 1st amendment/free speech.
I think Kim Chatman’s ethics complaint is a BIG DEAL – if you google Kim Chatman Eagle AK, there are MANY MANY articles. Speculation that it could be THE iceberg. Personnel Board does not seem ready/able/willing to dismiss this one as “frivilous?” That AK Fund Trust stinks.
Shannyn Moore for president!!! You are my super-hero.
You are indeed extremely brave and spot on. What many posters here may not know is that it can be literally dangerous to speak your mind in this state. Not just because of SP being a bully but because her supporters have guns (lots of them) and might not hesitate to use them. This is why it was so irresponsible for Doogan to out AKM. Shannyn, Phil, Gryphen and CD are all very brave to put their names on their blogs and to speak out on the radio. This might sound paranoid but it is certainly fact in my part of Alaska. JHop #146: you just got a taste of how crazy people here can be. I am sure that they are all getting an earful of hate mail and unpleasant phone calls from the Sarah-lovers. Remember how she whipped up her base during the campaign last fall? She has no qualms about doing it here. In fact she depends on them. That’s what makes her think she can get away with this kind of crap. And she always cites “the constitution” as an excuse.
I would like to say that this will change but it is highly unlikely considering the level of education in most of this state.
Welcome to craziville.
So I toast you Shannyn. You will always stand in my liberal heart as one of the strongest people I can think of. And you articulate your stand so well.
Bit OT. . .but SP related. And the analysis goes on & on…
Wow, Tina Brown is blogging about SP!
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-05/sarah-palin-and-princess-di/full/
Eric Alterman is trying to figure out how anyone can defend SP. . .
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-05/sarah-palin-and-princess-di/full/
By the way, what’s up with Parnell continuing with the 2 million dollar story? Is he just a puppet? Hasn’t that been put to bed in all of the papers (including my local rag)? It wasn’t even 1 million. WTF??? And we have to put up with him for the rest of this term??? Oh mudpuppies, it seems our work will continue…
Lori, I totally agree. After reading the complaint, the applicable law, and articles, it seems that there is definite merit to what she alleges. And even if, ultimately, she could not prove that the trust exists in violation with the law, the complaint deserves a formal hearing. I can’t see any way that a board could just dismiss it outright. I think it is interesting that the complaint previous to this one took only 2 weeks to dismiss:
“Filed on April 22: Alleged that work with Palin’s political action committee violated two provisions of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act by misusing her official position and accepting outside employment. Filed by Anchorage resident Sondra Tompkins. Dismissed as lacking merit by state personnel board May 8.”
SecretShopper and JHop:
I think my prior response went to spam, so I’ll try it again:
Sorry for my go-to-open-forum comment. I did not get that your discussion of ethics complaints was part of the “rumors” discussion. I was certainly not trying to stifle or interfere in your discussions.
JHop
Shannyn reported that there were rumors of investigations; she didn’t report the rumors as fact. That’s what makes this whole thing even more inexplicable. (ridiculous, stoopid, baseless, etc ad nauseum)
Nan
My personal respect and congratulations for/to Shannyn (from Homer) for her integrity, her perserverence and dedication for/to the citizens of Alaska and obvious love for the cultural and scenic values, the native concerns, her sense of protecting these beautiful parts of life, all so important to real freedom of expression for all, as put forth by out Founding Fathers, an indication of true teamwork by a caring person, who has stood to the challenge of that which would seek control of our essence and our rights to express ourselves.
Should legal action be taken by the obstructionists of these ideas and expressions of our freedoms to our opinions you can count on my full assistance and financial contributions if needed.
Shannyn, you have walked the walk, run the run, raced far ahead of the “opponent” and deserve our full support and I know from following the Flats and your site that it will be given with the warmest and most sincere feelings of all of us.
Thank you for the depth of your giving, like the deep diving whales there will be no floating fish here.
Ron Meier
274 lovemydogs Says: July 5th, 2009 at 7:51 PM
By the way, what’s up with Parnell continuing with the 2 million dollar story? Is he just a puppet?
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Sure seems it, doesn’t it? Perhaps he will find courage and blaze his own trail instead of following the misguided and failed policies of the past couple of years.
Hey mudflats:
Not the best, but there’s a pic of Tom at:
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=10646883
“By the way, what’s up with Parnell continuing with the 2 million dollar story? Is he just a puppet?”
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He doesn’t have keys to the “gubner’s” office yet.
“By the way, what’s up with Parnell continuing with the 2 million dollar story? Is he just a puppet?”
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He doesn’t have keys to the “gubner’s” office yet.
Besides….GINO might just change her mind. Plenty of time, ya know.
Way to go, Shannyn! We need more bright articulate women to speak up and show the country that woman aren’t all the ding-bats Republican men seem to want them to be. The fact that anyone takes Sarah Palin seriously as a candidate for anything continues to amaze me.
“By the way, what’s up with Parnell continuing with the 2 million dollar story? Is he just a puppet
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short answer: Yep.
long answer: He doesn’t have keys to the “gubner’s” office in his hot little hand yet.
One thing missing from Shannyn’s excellent press release:
“And yes Sarah, those shoes do make your ass look big.”
Alaskaguy: LOL
Shannyn, you seem to have annoyed the Red Queen.
Loving every minute.
I see that no one has mentioned this part of what Van Flein stated when responding to Shannyn’s conference
Van Flein said Sunday the governor has no plans to sue at this time.
So he has just admitted that this was nothing more than a threat!
we had to listen to s*&t like this when she was campaigning , why i say pay backs are hell
http://tinyurl.com/ouwmtl
From Channel 2 news:
“Sarah Palin is a coward and a bully,” said Moore. “What kind of politician attacks an ordinary American on the 4th of July for speaking her mind? What’s wrong with her? The First Amendment was designed to protect people like me from people like her.”
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=10646883
PRICELESS
good article deist. I think it is interesting that the LA Times may not have contacted the FBI originally. I wonder if Van Flein leaked the source to them: “Van Flein says he checked with the FBI just to be sure, and said the FBI confirmed that there is no investigation underway over the Wasilla Sports Complex or any other matter involving the Palins.”
and earlier he said: “When people come out and say the real reason she’s resigned is because there is a federal investigation for embezzlement, that is absolutely false and it is malicious,” said Van Flein.”
no one said that palin resigned “because” of a federal investigation. shannyn simply said that there were rumors of an investigation, as nan pointed out in her comment. and we do not know that it is “absolutely false.” but what really bothers me about his statement is that it was definitely NOT malicious. as an attorney, he disingenuously used the term, like an adjective in a novel, to imply that shannyn did something horribly wrong. but malicious in a defamation context means that shannyn knew the statement was false when she made it and intentionally spread false information. no one knows the truth at this point! it could not have been malicious, and thus, it could not have been defamatory. but he is twisting his words nicely here to paint a picture of the leader of evil bloggers.
And, just so it doesn’t seem like I ignored your apology, it’s okay NYhawk; I was just a little taken aback. I haven’t meant to be annoying or overanalyze the legalities of the situation. we were just discussing if the latest ethics complaint could have had any effect on palin’s resignation or the rumors of corruption. but i am new here and i certainly didn’t mean to get too comfortable or anything.
wow…..all ive missed!!
Bravo, Shannon!!
Can you imagine SP being deposed in a civil court case?
All kinds of questions, there.
sp is a coward.
EyeOnYou Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:18 PM
I see that no one has mentioned this part of what Van Flein stated when responding to Shannyn’s conference
Van Flein said Sunday the governor has no plans to sue at this time.
So he has just admitted that this was nothing more than a threat!
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P-bots are red, America’s blue,
Sarah Palin’s too chicken to actually sue.
Also too.
PALINOCCHIO has quit her job as Chief Despot of Alaska. Finally. I mean HOLY F-U-C-K., Finally. It’s taken forever. Listen to her speech, what a whack job, and what’s with all the run-on sentences and her jaw – holy meth face (cut down on the Adderall, Sarah – just sayin) . That she did it just before American Independence day (Sarah Palin trying to steal the thunder of America`s founding fathers should come as no surprise – she`s such a fame hog, yawn). So, unemployed Sarah Palin, you go now to charge women for rape kits – you batshit crazy religious zealot – you go charge those victims of sexual assault for rape kits that may well provide DNA evidence to convict their rapists – you go charge them hundreds of dollars for that service that is provided to citizens who`ve been raped in most U.S. States, Canada, and most civilized countries. Try it. Go for it, bitch. I played basketball as a kid too. I will block you, and you will lose. Loser.
Nice Bea
good catch, Eye on You!
I guess his plans changed overnight. Which is kind of crazy considering they were planning to spend next week figuring out their legal options. And even crazier because they said if anyone keeps talking about it, they will pursue legal action. Shannyn could not have given their press release a bigger F You with her press conference. But now they wont sue?
what an empty, despicable threat. sent out to the national media. he should be embarrassed.
I hope Von Fascist knows that his press releases and letters can be exhibit A in a defamation suit against his client.
Don’t be encouraging her to be stupid, Bea.
@NYHawk
No worries. I’ve been guilty of OT comments many times so I should be reminded of the open topic. Have to admit, sometimes I forget which topic I’m writing on ;(
The LDF ethics complaint IMO is a big deal and worthy of investigation.
Sarah the tweeting, dwindling twit…
Why oh why are you picking on someone who has a wide array of media talent – blogging, radio AND TV appearances? It’s not like Shannyn is shy or anything! I guess you want the MSM to cover this after all and make your life even more like he11 than you say it is NOW?
A floodgate has been opened and are you really, really, sure that you are ready for this, Sarah? I’d have thought you might have waited til you were not an official anymore – just three (long) weeks – but no, you have to leave your elected position on the sourest note possible. Shame on you – more drama for the Alaska Governor’s office – just what we don’t need. NOTHING you do is for Alaska and if you think that you have ANY credibility left with decent folks, you are in for another train wreck.
And I think your little plan of pushing buttons on the bloggers, hoping they will slip up or bow to your will – is mush. Your biggest problem is that you can’t see the world through anyone’s eyes but your own, and so you underestimate, and misunderstand, your opposition. Thank you for that – makes it kind of easy to trip you up!
JHOP,
Here is my take. Van Flein actually is doing what he accuses Moore of doing, but she didn’t do what he claims. So perhaps Moore should be suing him.
By the way, what’s up with Parnell continuing with the 2 million dollar story? Is he just a puppet?
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He doesn’t have the keys to the “gubner’s” office yet.
Still time for Ms. Capricious to change what little mind she has.
I just picked a tomato .I will mark 2012 on it and save to throw when if the ss Palin arrives in Iowa.
Another thing that I noticed in the LA Times story regarding the FBI statement. I find it curious that the story says that the FBI agent gave this information in a phone interview on Saturday. It does not state that the reporter did the interview, and Van Flein stated that he called the FBI for confirmation (did he not take Sarah at her word??).
So is the LATimes story writer taking Van Flein’s word on this from when Van Flein supposedly called? Or did he call the FBI himself and do an “interview” close to midnight on the 4th of July? The story does not make this clear.
Not that I am saying someone is lying because no doubt the FBI would come out and state that they were not contacted if they weren’t, or if someone was lying about what was said. Wouldn’t they?
This whole thing just sounds odd.
JHop
We Alaskans have been subjected to many of these “empty” threats made by Palin, her attorney, her subordinates, etc.
For example, when one ethics complaint was dismissed the gov’s presser called for Alaskans to “backlash” against these ethics complaints. IMO, very strong language used to quell dissent.
Oddly enough, our local media did NOTHING to call this in to question, and so the language continues. As an Alaskan, I find it offensive. We’ve been treated like misbehaving toddlers.
not that Sarah:
No, Van Flein is not a Fascist. Van Flein is an attorney. Palin could have hired another attorney but she chose Van Flein.
In this country even Jack The Ripper would have the right to an attorney and someone would be obliged to represent him.
sauerkraut Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Don’t be encouraging her to be stupid, Bea.
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Moi? I never! I was merely acting as a good point guard and trying to progress the ball down the court-field while calling an audible on dead fish and WHO LET THESE $%$)#!@* GEESE IN HERE?????
not that sarah and wolf pack- i agree completely. i think shannyn has a better case for defamation than palin ever did. and ironically, she would have a much easier time proving defamation as a private citizen and could collect punitive damages. the press release is a really big legal mistake. i think they have backed off since the country openly mocked it.
martha – such a good post, you should email her that as a favor.
parnell is acting shady. he repeats palin’s lies and calls her “the greatest gift that Alaska has ever given the U.S.” based on our extensive trust fund discussion, it seems that palin has not had to pay a dime for her legal bills. i wonder if he realizes that the legislature still has to confirm him…
JHop: Like I said “welcome to craziville”
We’ve been putting up with this crap for at least 10 months now.
It’s her MO. Rile up the wingnuts, throw a threat out there and see if it sticks. If it does, declare victory. If it doesn’t, backpedal like crazy.
Give’em hell Shannyn! You have all of us behind you.
Yup. What lovemydogs said. That is the MO.
@lovemydogs (I should be lovemycats!)
We’ve been putting up with Palin’s crap for 3 years now!!! My husband and I were part of the very few that had Palin pegged even before the gubernatorial election. She’s trouble now, and I knew she was trouble then. I tried to warn folks but no one listened.
@deist, I never suggested she wasn’t entitled to legal representation if she can get other people to pay for it, which she clearly can.
Her attorney has made many untrue accusations in public about a private citizen, and he should have known better than to do that– esp representing an elected official.
He is guilty of poor advice, and perhaps more.
I would not be tempted to nickname him as I did if he would abide by the constitution and the bill of rights, and advise his client likewise. His behavior, on behalf of his client, has been exceptionally poor form.
I am also not in the mood to temper my adjectives tonight, after essentially hearing that anyone can be sued by the Red Queen if she doesn’t like what we think or say.
She has acted like a Fascist. I’m calling her out on it — or rather, calling her henchman out on it.
I found this comment on huffpost:
When I was a young attorney I made the terrible error of suing for defamation on behalf of a client. Well, that opened the door to inquiries about every misdeed my client had ever committed that could bear on the state of my client’s reputation before the ocurrence of the alleged defamation.
No experienced attorney would ever bring a defamation claim on behalf of anyone who was not an exceptionally upright person. And even then, the attorney would proceed with trepidation.
Sue me Sarah, Sue the country Sarah, and Good Luck!
@ JHop
“martha – such a good post, you should email her that as a favor.”
Ha! Don’t need to! She reads “Each and every one of ‘em – whichever ones they put in front of me.” She’s pissed at bloggers, so you betcha she, or minions, are reading blogs & comments!
I felt all kind of mavericky doin’ that – you know, not following the normal comment format and all that – just speaking directly to the Alaskan Sarah Palin, without that evil liberal media filter thrown in, and to heck with the mods because what do they know, and I’m doin’ what I want, so there! It’s all about JOB CREATION and WHAT AN IDIOT Sarah Palin is!
it is like she thinks she is homecoming queen or something, and she rules the student body. and anyone who says otherwise will be outcast as a loser. it is crazy that she called for people to “backlash” against allegations of her wrongdoing (asking citizens to help bury her crimes? instilling fear in those who would otherwise come forward?!). try being ethical and fair and there would not be complaints. she has direct control over how the public views her.
she reminds me of that evil bitch from high school that thought she was really hot and really popular, but everyone secretly detested her because her personality sucked. grow up, governor. it’s a state. not bayside high.
Someone posted that Eric Gonzalez is not an agent with the FBI but that is not true. The website lists him as SSA Eric Gonzalez. They have a 24/7 number to call.
Mr. Gonzalez got his undergraduate degree in Psychology at a christian college in Oklahoma,
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Southern_Nazarene_University
and got his JD at Arizona State University.
Interesting.
From Deist:
“In this country even Jack The Ripper would have the right to an attorney and someone would be obliged to represent him….”
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This is the part of “right to a fair trial” that it’s easy to forget is important: if the worst criminal in the world does not have a fair trial (which would include representation by an attorney), then none of us does.
If the government can deny the worst criminal in the world his/her right of “innocent until proven guilty,” then all of our rights to that assumption are in jeopardy.
Criminal attorneys are the backbone of a fair trial for all of us. Johnny Cochrane is a criminal attorney, and many don’t like the games he played in defending OJ Simpson. But without the Johnny Cochranes, we could (as often happens in Iran) be tried by a kangaroo court, in secrecy, sent to prison, and no one would ever know what happened.
When we remember Johnny Cochrane is a defense attorney, we can take heart from remebering that Atticus Finch was also a defense attorney. He took on an accused defendent no one else would defend.
That’s definitely the MO.
What do you expect though? I’ve said for months she’s a Gash.
Believe me yet?
It’s not that I have been trying to be obnoxious about it, but why the Sam Hell should anyone give her a pass? People have been doing it for a long, long time and there are two things I will NOT do when it comes to her. I will not give her a pass and I will not flatter her by mimicking her. It’s not pretty when she spouts her word salad. Seriously, it’s not.
With all the back-pedaling from his previous feistiness—and his obvious fear of a truly strong woman– perhaps we should re-christen him Van Flaccid?
not that sarah:
I usually agree with most folks here including you, but not this time. I know Tom Van Flein and he’s not a fascist. He’s probably one of the best attorneys in Alaska–wish Palin would have hired someone else.
My two cents worth.
Lovemydogs:
“It’s her MO. Rile up the wingnuts, throw a threat out there and see if it sticks. If it does, declare victory. If it doesn’t, backpedal like crazy.”
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Well, that’s a heckuva way to try to run a state.
Ooops, what am I saying? I live in California.
Never mind.
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deist Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:34 PM
not that Sarah:
No, Van Flein is not a Fascist. Van Flein is an attorney. Palin could have hired another attorney but she chose Van Flein.
In this country even Jack The Ripper would have the right to an attorney and someone would be obliged to represent him.
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Jack the Ripper’s right to an attorney would only apply in a criminal matter. This is a civil matter. (Palin’s allegation of defamation). Palin is not charged with any crime, so she has no “right” to any attorney to help her pursue any allegation of defamation and no attorney is obligated to represent her.
Secretshopperforchildren AKA lovemycats:
Sorry. I was way back in the back of the democrat closet for a long time-silently staying off the radar. I voted my conscience (sp?) and did not discuss politics for fear of losing my job.
I remember when Palin ran for governor. I did not vote for her. Never even considered it. But I did have friends who were already saying “they are going to tap her to run for president”. I thought they were just my nutty friends…silly me.
When PO hit the scene, I heeded the call and came out of the closet with colors flying and have not turned back.
Dr.P:
“Mr. Gonzalez got his undergraduate degree in Psychology at a christian college in Oklahoma,
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Southern_Nazarene_University
and got his JD at Arizona State University.
Interesting.”
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You’re fracking kidding me.
Sarah Palin is like Bush Jr in that, if there appears to be a coincidence having to do with them, better make sure about 85 times that it’s really a coincidence.
Does she honestly think we want her down here in the lower 48? She needs to go home and stay there for a while. There is absolutely nothing she has to say that we want to hear. I’d be happy to buy our governor, Rick Perry a one way ticket to Alaska.
We tired of him too, and maybe he could give Todd a break.
she acts like she is homecoming queen or something and rules the student body; but anyone who says something that she doesn’t like, she outcasts as a loser and failure. it is crazy to me that she calls on the public to “backlash” against allegations of her wrongdoing – she asks citizens to bury her crimes and instills fear in those who would otherwise come forward?! there would not be a barrage of complaints, if she acted ethically and fairly. she has direct control over what the public thinks of her. she just does nothing to improve it.
she reminds me of that evil bitch in high school (come on, we all had one) that thought she was really hot and really popular, but who everyone secretly detested because her personality absolutely sucked. grow up, governor. it is a state. not bayside high.
she acts like she is homecoming queen or something and rules the student body; but anyone who says something that she doesn’t like, she outcasts as a loser and failure. it is crazy to me that she calls on the public to “backlash” against allegations of her wrongdoing – she asks citizens to bury her crimes and instills fear in those who would otherwise come forward?! there would not be a barrage of complaints, if she acted ethically and fairly. she has direct control over what the public thinks of her. she just does nothing to improve it.
she reminds me of that evil bitch in high school (come on, we all had one) that thought she was really hot and really popular, but who everyone secretly detested because her personality sucked. grow up, governor. it is a state. not bayside high.
i cant comment for some reason?
@deist,
my apologies, as I am not from there…and don’t know these folks personally.
I take your word for it.
I didn’t mean it seriously, at any rate. I get riled up when elected officials try to use their power to bully private citizens.
Please accept my sincere apology.
now i can apparently. palin acts like she is homecoming queen or something and rules the student body; but anyone who says something that she doesn’t like, she outcasts as a loser and failure. it is crazy to me that she calls on the public to “backlash” against allegations of her wrongdoing – she asks citizens to bury her crimes and instills fear in those who would otherwise come forward?! there would not be a barrage of complaints, if she acted ethically and fairly. she has direct control over what the public thinks of her. she just does nothing to improve it.
she reminds me of that evil b**ch in high school (come on, we all had one) that thought she was really hot and really popular, but who everyone secretly detested because her personality sucked. grow up, governor. it is a state. not bayside high.
ahhhh if i spell out b**ch, i get deleted! i learn new things every moment i spend with you all….
NY Hawk:
Gimme a break! Should attorneys boycott Palin?
In our great country, ANYONE is entitled to an attorney!
politicalamazon: ROFLMAO.
deist, you’ve made your point. You’re beginning to sound like Sarah.
So Van Flein and his illustrious high-maintenance client are already backing off from their threats of a lawsuit, eh?
They must have heard the belly laughs from the legal community.
That’s Sarah for you, though. She has always promised more than she can deliver. Tsk. Tsk. The only things she keeps delivering on are her own offspring…even into the next generation.
Maybe they can create a Cabinet level post just for her….. “The Department of Labor for Precipitous Delivery”…or…”The Department of Liberation of Ace Point Guard Governors”…or…The Department of Histrionics and Limbic Tantrums….or…”The Dept. of Yellow-Bellied Sap-Sucking Quitters.”……
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JHop Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:56 PM
i cant comment for some reason?
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Perhaps you have been saying things that offended Sarah “Gump” Palin. Apparently you don’t know that she has very special powers and can stifle any and all criticism from anyone, anywhere, anytime.
I’m not making this stuff up. Just ask her. She’ll confirm, in so many words, also.
JHOP this is all about High School. Buttercup is emotionally stuck in High School.
Hey, Sarah, remember when you were hunting wolves out of a helicopter???? LOL, now you know how the wolves felt! You deserve every bit of this.
deist, I’m sorry, i think you are great, but NYHawk is right.
Your 6th Amendment right to an attorney is only guaranteed for felonies or misdemeanor (but only misdemeanors with imprisonment of 1 year imposed) trials. You are entitled to counsel only at police interrogations, post-indictment interrogations, probable cause hearings, arraignments, post-charge lineups, guilty pleas and sentencing, and criminal appeals. You also have a 5th Amendment right to an attorney through the Miranda clause, but that is only for police interrogation before you are formally charged with a crime. There is no right to an attorney in civil procedures, such as defamation.
KallieinTexas:
No, I’m not beginning to sound like Palin. People who think that others are not entitled to as many rights as themselves (including the right to be represented by an attorney) are the ones who sound to me like Palin.
@JHop
Agreed. We all went to school with at least one “Mean Girl.” Fortunately I grew tall enough to look over them, literally, so I never let them get to me. I’ve always lived with the axiom: what goes around comes around. Palin obviously is emotionally growth-stunted, and I half-way suspect her provincial life has kept her from growing up. I view the entire Valley as one big high school (sorry Phil!).
@lovemydogs
I WAS a loyal Republican voter since ‘84. Not anymore. Palin did me in. I attended one of the gubernatorial debates and noticed how approachable Knowles and Halcro were to the attendees. Not Palin. She came and left encircled by her posse, you couldn’t get near her. I knew she was trouble then- got bad vibes.
Sorry to NYHawk- this was WAY OT!!!
Dr. Patois Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Someone posted that Eric Gonzalez is not an agent with the FBI but that is not true. The website lists him as SSA Eric Gonzalez. They have a 24/7 number to call.
Mr. Gonzalez got his undergraduate degree in Psychology at a christian college in Oklahoma,
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Southern_Nazarene_University
and got his JD at Arizona State University.
Interesting.
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ASU is one of the most notorious “party” schools around. I ought to know, I live in Arizona. Gonzalez’ job is vetting applicants. It says so right on the site. Besides, the FBI has lost a great deal of respect in recent years, since the Department of Justice became Bush and company’s creature. Holder is trying hard to restore the shine to the image.
Dr. Patois, that IS interesting about Eric Gonzalez. I had looked him up, also, to make sure he was an agent, but I didn’t know the other information. I did wonder, though, if he wasn’t in Sarah’s pocket somehow. I’m not suggesting he is or anything, it just makes me wonder why the FBI would come out on Independence Day to deny what has clearly been called a rumor. I don’t recall that ever happening before. Maybe I haven’t been paying attention, but don’t they usually say something like “no comment.” If they say anything at all.
Something still sounds fishy about the FBI announcement…I’m not buying it.
@deist
I too have heard good things about Van Flein. I live here too. However, I didn’t care for his disparaging remarks about Petumenos (sp) after the Troopergate investigation, since I believe Petumenos was the one who prosecuted the individual who shot Van Flein years ago. Am I correct about that?
Attorneys: we all love to hate them until we need them
Thanks JHop:
Although it is not a constitutional right, I bet if Palin went to the Bar Association and told them no one would represent her, they’d probably help her out . . .
Besides, I’ve never heard of anyone with money not finding an attorney if they have a true need. I just don’t think it happens. I call it a “right” but you are correct- I guess it is assumed.
I don’t think Palin would ever have to worry. It just wouldn’t happen– If she threw Van Flein under the bus she’d certainly find someone else in a hurry.
on the FBI homepage (http://anchorage.fbi.gov/), E.Gonzo is listed as “Applicant Coordinator SSA Eric Gonzalez;” on zoominfo.com he is listed as “spokesman.”
and this is a facebook page for an older dude in anchorage, named Eric Gonzalez. I can’t access his whole profile, since we are not “friends.” http://www.facebook.com/ebgonzalez
Remember it was not long ago when information was revealed about Kristan Cole, and her mother’s arrest for raiding two trust funds. This is not rumor—it is FACT. Did it get too hot in the kitchen for Buttercup and the realtor?
Lee323:
Too funny! LOL! How about Minister of Silly Talks (a la Monty Python’s Minister of Silly Walks).
#111 gotwood4sale should change that to “gotwood4sarah!
Shannyn Moore and AKM make me proud. They are following in the footsteps of some terrific women journalists. Molly Ivins comes to mind. Molly went toe to toe with anybody. She not only knew where the bodies were buried, but proceeded to dig them all up and parade down Main Street with them. The good ol’ boys in Texas were scared to death of her. Be afraid, Alaskan grifters, Be very afraid. Alaska is in very good hands.
@KallieinTexas Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Hey, Sarah, remember when you were hunting wolves out of a helicopter???? LOL, now you know how the wolves felt! You deserve every bit of this.
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I agree with with you.
I am advised by a friend that the FBI runs a Citizen’s Academy annually. Attendees learn about the FBI / what they do/ challenges, etc. – 8 week course, once a week. PR – Community Outreach. Part of the FBI mission I was told.
Sarah participated in one. Maybe the very first Academy from what I hear.
Who coordinated the Citizen’s Academy? My source says Eric Gonzales.
That could be the connection?
Ditto re the fishy sounding FBI disclaimer. It made me nervous — esp because I guess your new AG is a Bush DoJ graduate. That’s where they send you for special training to put the executive’s agenda before the constitution…Thankfully Holder is trying to clean the stench up, but there are way too many careerists who were improperly vetted based on their religion and party (by the Bush admin) — and Holder can’t get rid of them, even though their hiring was found to violate the code of conduct and the law for the DoJ hiring of career positions (not appointees).
Let’s hope the FBI or DoJ clears this up. Perhaps they should be contacted to clarify their agent’s statement.
oig.hotline@usdoj.gov
Both Moore and Palin need to suck it up and stop their whining.
The FBI confimred today that Palin is NOT under investigation in any form. They didn’t go so far as to say her husband isn’t though.
Enough already. What’s done is done.
PoliticalAmazon, I formerly worked with two quite well-known, now deceased criminal defense lawyers here in Alaska, and what you say is absolutely true. I really miss those guys… Some of you may know of whom I speak.
SecretShopperforHungryChildren:
First, Thank you for supporting hungry children.
Are you talking about Petumenous or the other guy (I already forgot his name; he was the legislature’s counsel who said Palin violated EBEA?)
Van Flein got shot when he was a Supreme Court clerk. That was a long time ago. I read about that in Alaska Ear at the time another Supreme Court clerk got shot a couple years ago.
It’s beginning to sound as if
1. Van Flein took SP’s word for it that it was horrible and defamatory etc
2. VF may have thought if he just rattled a saber or two he could quash any more talk – especially if he only had the info from SP – and especially if he is “old guard” about weak little ladies (and does *not* know our Shannyn!)
3.a VF found out that Shannyn did use the word “rumor” and
3.b. Shannyn is no pushover.
I’m guessing he’s learned quite a bit from this little stunt.
deist Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 8:49 PM
not that sarah:
I usually agree with most folks here including you, but not this time. I know Tom Van Flein and he’s not a fascist. He’s probably one of the best attorneys in Alaska
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One of the best?? Wow. I’m seriously underwhelmed. That threatening letter he wrote was amateurish, dumb and ill-advised for many, ,many reasons. (I should know. I’m an experienced litigator.) Any lawyer “worth his or her salt” in NYC would never have written such a letter.
There will be more than a few “rats” deserting the S.S. Palin in the coming weeks. I’m taking bets that “lawyerguy” will be one.
I hate it when the pages change and there is still good stuff on the last page. grrrr.
Parnell is a plant for big oil. He will support Gino untill she leaves the state for good. I have a feeling that Parnell will side with the oil, gas, mining, and resource extraction companys very qucikly to close deals.
Gino gave him his title, so he will bat for her and clean up all the dirt that she leaves behind. Including fudging the numbers and telling white lies to honor his master. He had a good teacher.
Will be interesting to see if Parnell moves his family down to the capital of just starts billing the state to live in his home. Aside from being a kiss@ss for GINO and her ways, I think he will surely demonstrate a level of leadership that that will put Gino to shame.
@ NYHawk,
I agree — I was shocked by the fact that he wrote it at all, knowing it could be used against her/him. And it will be…in press releases, debates, the list is endless.
I was also surprised by his use of adjectives and outright accusation of Moore — never did he use the word “allegedly” — which was his very beef with her.
I’m no litigator, but I’m friends with many who would know better than that. They also know better than to take their client’s word on something and go public with it without vetting it first.
Diest, I apologized to you for my description of Van F (not sure if you read it or not), but I stand by my assessment of his handling of this situation.
Poor form.
NY Hawk:
Welcome to Alaska. Enjoy your visit.
BLOOMBERG headline: Obama Gets Boost as Palin Departure Deepens Republican Disarray
DAILY MAIL: “I can say definitively I am aware of no criminal investigation whatsoever involving Sarah Palin. Zero,” Palin’s lawyer Thomas Van Flein said in a phone interview.
i am going to parse his words here, but hey that is what i am paid to do – i think it is interesting that he said “i am AWARE of no criminal investigation,” as opposed to a stronger statement like “there are no criminal investigations whatsoever involving Sarah Palin” or “i can say definitively that sarah palin is not under any criminal investigation.” the “i am aware” gives him leeway for anything that may turn up in the future. say, by the IRS or U.S. attorney’s office.
Another rumor, Kodiak blog under Fireworks, blogger comment states that the same folks from DOJ who investigated VECO are in the valley.
not that sarah:
Thanks!
Andrew Halcro has a post and with it is this comment. What “upcoming new ethics law?”
Bye Bye Barracuda
Submitted by Andy on Sun, 2009-07-05 11:48.
Farewell to our Princess Of Platitudes.
Given the upcoming ethics law forbidding self-enrichment while in office, she had the choice of being a leader or cashing in…
Well ya know, money talked, and ethics walked,ya betcha.
SecretShopperforHungryChildren Says:
July 5th, 2009 at 9:12 PM
@deist
I too have heard good things about Van Flein. I live here too. However, I didn’t care for his disparaging remarks about Petumenos (sp) after the Troopergate investigation, since I believe Petumenos was the one who prosecuted the individual who shot Van Flein years ago. Am I correct about that?
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That was Branchflower on both counts
I knew nor cared nothing about about Palin until I learned that she had charged women for rape kits.
She sickens me. I just have to say. She lies constantly. How this grifter has even gained 2 years in the public consciousness is beyond the scope of my imagination.
As I said in another post, I will donate money of this two-bit Fascist Aging Quitter comes after you and I will solicit others to give you money.
Take the truth to this whack job!!!!!
Note that Palin is willing to burn the Bill of Rights to protect her super-sized ego!!!!!