Ordinance 64 Public Testimony – Live Blog
We’ve had a bit of a breather, but we’ve come to the next installment of Red Shirt Theater. The Non-Discrimination Ordinance public testimony continues. It may take a while to get to it. The schedule can sometimes be fluid… But the link is HERE.
Use this thread to live blog the meeting if you feel so inclined.
This will be the first round of public testimony in front of new Mayor Dan Sullivan.
Recent polling suggests that the ordinance has very good public support, although you’d never know it from watching these meetings.
~~Mudflatter & Forum Moderator Writing from Alaska brought Brians to the Assembly meeting!
No one here?
Sullivan IS in the House!!!
Saw him with my own eyes!!!
about time, I was getting desperate not having a thread to chat on. =) Thank you AKM
Am here to show support for the few minutes before I have to go to bed. I heard for a few moments “This is a special assembly meeting” or some such, before the link went dark again.
Hi — so can someone tell me is this a hearing to pass the ordinance? and the polling is in favor of the rights of the LGBTG community? I haven’t really followed it as closely as I should I get to caught up with the palin drama, however as a member of afore mentioned community I am really curious. It is if Im wrong correct me, simply to allow the same rights on basic equalities? Such a shame to see the hatred I did scan the photos of a few articles.
what browser are ya’ll watching on, I can’t get it to play?
Thanks…….. I was feeling the same as zyggy.
http://anchorageak.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&event_id=38
lolli, I don’t know if they will make that decision tonight or if they are just listening to zealots talk about the bathroom again, and again. =)
lolli-xo,
After the business they are presently dealing with in Assembly, they will continue the hearings of the public that signed up to speak for 3 minutes. I’m not sure how many more names remain on the list.
This is not where they will vote to pay the ordinance yet.
@lolli-xo: The meeting is to hear testimony, which if you stick around, will undoubtedly make you question your sanity and that of AK resident. Be forewarned: the “churches” are busing in their members (from batshitcrazy Wasilla, mostly) to make all kinds of ridiculous claims about running into men in women’s bathrooms, that they will no longer be able to discriminate, that the world will end and that teh gayz make Jebus cry.
Don’t expect logic or a vote. But you will be thrilled to see the bravery of the LBTG community and supporters in rare flashes of lucidity.
I’m off to grab a Mike’s hard lemonade, any one want one while I’m up?
Signup and testimony on the ordinance begins at 7:30pm. If you live in Anchorage, please come and show your *in person* and bring three friends. If you don’t live here, and you know someone who does, please phone them and tell them to head over to Loussac Library ans bring three of their friends. If you don’t live here and don’t know anyone who does, then please comment on Mudflats to help us keep our sanity!
And please send chocolate.
tewise
I use explorer and have no problem
Ooops, my last must have contained a word usually reserved for Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin
akgrrl,
Support from Toronto!!!
ahhh – I manged to get the live stream running I thought it would be painfully slow but its buffered fine… I want to hear the ones about the public toilets *crazy*
#6 tewise — Im using http://www.opera.com browser i think you might find you need to update adobe flash player or windows media player.. what operating system and browser are you using?
That should have read show your *support in person*. I’m here now, on my trusty blackberry, still in need of chocolate
Firefox – had to disable AdBlockPlus
Thanks, Canadian Neighbour!
If not many people show up to testify, they could vote tonight. Many of the Assembly Members read their e-mail during testimony so you can also send them a message if you are not in Anchorage. This address goes to all of them at once. WWMAS@ci.anchorage.ak.us
Thank you Canadian Neighbor..
11 akgrrl Says:
Everyone keeps talking chocolate here… I would be happy to trade some New Zealand chocolate goodies for reeses and poptarts we cant get those here
I am travelling to the US later this month though to get married
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It appears all they are discussing the budget and funds for it? and if it was approved? What is this bifercation? they are voting for and it failed?
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lolli-xo Says I have tried Firefox and IE
This is what I find really refreshing, after hearing from Buttercup during the Presidential Campaign, I find that Alaskan do really speak English and not Palinese word salad.
Of course I knew that you weren’t all like her, but she did represent you.
I’m listening to the assemblypeeps and they are articulate, but soon enough we get to hear the whacko crazies from the Church of Hate.
John, they announced earlier that they are so overwhelmed with emails that it would be best to call if you wish to be heard. Granted, that is a bit more effort but much more effective. I’m not sure of the numbers, but if you Google Anchorage Assembly I’m sure they’ll pop right up.
akgrrl –
Sit tight. Got some of this on the way now.
BTW – Are you gonna speak ?? If not , wave ??
http://www.mariniscandies.com/product/BACON-01/ChocolateCoveredBacon.aspx
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lolli-xo Says I have tried Firefox and IE
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Try opening windows media playe on your comnputer and paste the URL http://anchorageak.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=2&event_id=38 under file – open url
Drats……the little guys wanna hit the pool……back in a bit…..
Yeppers!! The whack jobs are coming!!
I clicked on the grafitti talk is not about the ordinace… what time is it now in Alaska? its 3pm wednesday here.
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lolli-xo S thank you, I finally got it up, thanks again for your help…
austintx, I’ve been to every one of the hearings, usually outside proudly waving a rainbow flag. I will sign up to testify this evening as they only have about 130-ish currently on the list, and it’s not nearly so crowded. Not certain if they will get to me or not.
(P.S. Please forgive any typos, as I’m severely chocolate deficient right now)
No problem I’m glad it worked
here in oregon..Thanks guys for blogging.
lolli-xo
It is just after 7 p.m. in Alaska.
I’m Toronto, it being 11 p.m. EST 4 hours difference
I’m here, now! (took a nap!)
It dos not look that crowded this evening.
does
doesn’t look so “red” tonight.
Why does that moderator lady always wear red to these meetings? Is she undercover??
It is so not crowded. No red shirts outside. I wonder if their bus ran out of gas.
In assembly chambers, live tweeting @yksin while my iPod still has juice. See also twitter hashtag #anclgbt
Okay, I’m going to act like I’m one of the whacko red shirts speaking, “and um, um, a, a, God made women bathrooms and men bathrooms, and we can’t let anyone in them unless they are female or male. Dat’s all. “
BTW, welcome lolli-xo to Mudflats!
Wanted to say that earlier in the open thread but it was on page 7 or 8 by the time I woke up here in Kentucky.
hi justafarmer
All the way from Nova Scotia Canada. Here for support.
Thank you canadian neighbour!
behave, zyggy!!! (wearing stern face and wagging finger whilst trying not to laugh out loud!)
40 akgrrl Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:05 PM
It is so not crowded. No red shirts outside. I wonder if their bus ran out of gas.
No such LUCK.
heya lexky!
lol justafarmer, I’m just trying to entertain the troops.
John(Canadian MudPuppy) Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:08 PM
40 akgrrl Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:05 PM
It is so not crowded. No red shirts outside. I wonder if their bus ran out of gas.
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that’s a bathroom joke, I mean reference. =)
Lack of red shirts is a good sign. Maybe they can take a positive vote tonight.
Crazies are out…Full moon perhaps…@ akgrrl..Sending Hershey bars…Enjoy
John, please don’t destroy my delusional fantasy of equality and peace. And chocolate.
first of all, i had no idea that i had the opportunity to watch! i feel like a fly on the wall of the super secret inner machinations of the alaskan government right now. how cool. but i have a problem: is anyone else getting kicked out of the live feed? everytime i try to open it, it closes all of my tabs. every firefox window closes at once. is there a way i can fix this?
and, while i can assume, can someone give me a brief history as to why you call it “Red Shirt Theater?”
thanks. you all = the best.
akgrll, take out the flask and have a sip, you might need it as the night goes on.
justafarmer, will there be sound effects tonight?
justafarmer
we need to get together and do that elitest lunch soon
so much to talk about..
Hershey bars,,,, someone say Hershey bars. Dang,,and double dang
<————–Diabetic,,,,,And Hershey are just the best,,,,dang.. LMAO
oh, dinner break….
20 minute intermission? OMG. What will we do?
Break,, oh come on,,20 minute break,,that sucks
Break,, oh come on,,20 minute break,,that sucks
OOPS Sorry
OK, now that long break. Yuk!!
<———– Cannot sing a note,, Scare you worst that Sarah I would. lmao
lol John, looks like you’re as disappoined about the break as I am.
JHOP – I have to go back to the Archive to see if I can find one of AKM’s post when this all first began. It explains everything….BRB
Zyggy: You can refill on popcorn, chocolates and/or libations. Just stay away from those scary bathrooms. LOL!
yeppers, lexy! I’m supposed to be in Bowling Green for a University of Kentucky event in November (I think) and weaver is in Berea (on the way there). We’ve got another Ky mudmup, Mike in Graves County, We’ll have to sort something out.
Wouldn’t it make since they eat before starting the meetings.
that’s it Cali, I’m going to go pee outside, don’t trust my own bathrooms, might see a scary person in there.
Ok – we all know what seagulls do, don’t we? It has to do with going splat everywhere….Well I’ve posted on 2 other posts & will do it here, cause that’s what seagulls do…splat splat splat (and it’s on topic because of the BATHROOM reference)
Salon has an article that says the Former Gov.’s office released a spreadsheet detailing the 2M costs.
http://www.salon.com/wires/ap/us/2009/07/07/D999ULSO0_us_palin_finances/index.html
I don’t see a spreadsheet. Don’t know why Salon has it 1st? Is ADN researching it?? MEL? MEL? You’ve got even more work now!
JHop, the red shirts are the ones who are from the fundamentalist churches around the area (plus all who share their beliefs), many of whom are NOT residing in Anchorage. You will, I am sure, find that interesting. I don’t know why you are being kicked out; I am using Firefox, too. I open up the meeting in one tab and have Mudflats open in another. Hope this helps a little…
LOL @califpat
during the break we can venture into the bathroom…
everyone, go in pairs and watch out for each other!
akgrrl – Did the chocolate covered bacon get there yet ?? I told ‘em pronto.
justafarmer
that would be great
we could send akm the picture of the ky mudpups
seagull, I posted the breakdown earlier and I suspect that 750,000.00 is from Buttercups’ own complaint about herself. Would be nice to see a real breakdown.
When we have to go out of our way to find more things and people to ‘hate’ and discriminate against, it sure doesn’t speak well of us. Live and let live and keep your own backyards clean. If everyone tended to their own garden and kept it in order, we wouldn’t have to stick our noses into other people’s private business. Why have the Republicans morphed into a party of hatred? It is such a waste of lives, not to mention valuable time.
JHop, Prevo is a loony hate preaching scum of the earth (I am being very kind) who busses in folks from out of the Municipality, out of the state, and out of the country (Russia) and they all wear red shirts and hold up signs saying “Truth is Not Hate” amongst other lovely sentiments. They testify mostly about not wanting to meet a man in a dress in a woman’s public bathroom.
No one should wonder how Palin got elected in Alaska. This is their way.
I was gone all weekend. What did I miss?
Kidding.
I wish I were there disguised as a red shirt. Just for fun. Just to see how stupid I could sound while the rest of the red shirts still believed whatever nonsense I said.
Palin couldn’t be more like Bush with her resignation. Sounds like she left the state in one sorry mess. Like Bush left the country.
chocolate covered bacon???? austin, I want some of that!
jhop, I don’t use firefox, just explorer, try using it instead? That’s about all I know.
Thanks Zyggy.
During your break…LETTERMAN TIME!
uhh 20 mins???? well might as well get an early dinner myself then !
thanks suchanut!
i have given up on trying to view this red fury dinner ordinance theater festival celebration, or whatever you guys call it. it just keeps crashing firefox.
sigh, i guess no donkey sex for me tonight. that is really disappointing. justafarmer, i blame you for getting me all excited about it.
JHOP – lots of info here
http://www.themudflats.net/category/anchorage-assembly/
68 Suchanut Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:19 PM
JHOP – I have to go back to the Archive to see if I can find one of AKM’s post when this all first began. It explains everything….BRB
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Picture of Eddie in the shirt speaks volumes……….that and donkey sex.
@JHop, the red shirts are Prevo’s Wasilla Christianistas….they all wear red shirts and clog up testimony. They are the ones who go on and on about perverts in public restrooms.
They are also the ones who brought up the subject of donkey sex.
The governor’s office says its expenditures totaled more than $425,000 in nearly 6,000 hours of staff hours.
Palin’s staff released the numbers to back up her contention the onslaught of “frivolous” ethics complaints have cost the state millions of dollars and thousands staff hours
Follow the Money.. Somehow this is not right….6000 hours,,, give me a break.
jhop just open windows media player on your computer and click file – open url and paste in the live stream url and it will play.
austintx, thanks, I do believe you have just cured my craving for chocolate
JHop – Briefly, the bible thumping, homophobic, bused-in “testifiers” from the Baptist Church ALL wear red shirts to identify themselves as those opposed to equal rights. Everyone gets their 3 minutes to speak, and the red-shirted people (most of them) use it to read the Old Testament and proclaim that the sinners (GLBT community) scare all of their children in public bathrooms. Must be seen to be believed. Although proposed ordinance is an Anchorage issue, testimony is allowed from anywhere (why, I dunno). So, the Reverend brings busloads of people from all over the State, even some from out-of-State. Rev. thinks the anti-Christ is homosexual.
jhop, now to answer your question about the red shirts, they are concerned that gay peeps if given special rights would take over the world, and force everyone to become gay, and they shouldn’t be able to since they are going to hell anyway.
Hey guys, does that sound about right? =)
okay i am going to try using IE, good idea.
after getting kicked out and then reading all of your comments, i am actually really curious. i would like to see it.
zyggy, thats all I use..IE and thats iot,,works great for me.
austintx said: “akgrrl – Did the chocolate covered bacon get there yet ?? I told ‘em pronto.”
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I am so hurt! After those wonderful, TART margaritas I made for you! I don’t get even one piece of chocolate-covered bacon? Waaaahhhh… :_(
Supporting you from Thompson Manitoba….hello Canadian Neighbour…I hail from Toronto. The beaches to be exact.
also, JHop, I’m using Firefox tonight and don’t have any probs.
Only suggestion I would have is to reboot because I sometimes do have Firefox crashing/lockup probs and a reboot fixes it. Good thing it’s dinner break!
Anyone in the Library better be wearing their ‘Depends’. You know it’s not safe in those washrooms.
Actually, I’d be more afraid of meeting the Red Shirts in there. Those that the RedShirts speak of, probably would give you great decorating advice if you asked!!
JHop: can’t help you on the live feed because I have dial up and would be here until next week if I wanted to hear it. Which I don’t because I can’t stomach that much hate talk. I just lurk and crack up at mudpups comments about things said that I can only imagine.
The Red Shirt Theater is because all the crazy, non-tolerant wingnuts wear red shirts. The good guys wear blue. There are old posts on this with pictures that you can go back to later.
Get ready-it is quite the ride into one of my versions of he*l.
Hi Laurie and welcome.. great to have you..Lots of Canucks here tonight.
@ziggy: Good for you. You are definitely more safe. LoL!!
obama was in russia today, he waved at sarah palin
i love david letterman
justafarmer – order away…………
http://www.mariniscandies.com/product/BACON-01/ChocolateCoveredBacon.aspx
Hmmm…
So Prevo busses in supporters to enforce narrow-minded religion-based far-right ideology…
Sounds familiar… let me think…
OH WAIT! I GOT IT! That’s what Khameini did a few weeks ago to shut down freedom in Iran! Bussed in hard-liners and Basiji to crush reformist change!
You paying attention, far-righters? That’s what your leaders are trying to turn you into. Is that what you really want? Look in the mirror.
Prevo = donkey sex denying pervert. Just waiting for the other hoof to drop.
jhop, clear out your cookies and cache and see if that helps, that’s what my it person tells me all the time when I have puter problems. =)
Some people have found it has worked better when they have cleaned out their Cache, Cookies, Temp Files.
@ TBNTJudy:
those fart sound effects will start when the red shirts step up to the microphone.
Letterman:
Obama waved to Palin from Russia….
Palin waved goodbye to Russia….
Puzzled FOLKS – Octo-mom?!?!?!?!
Palin called “KABOOM” Cheney for strategic maneuvering help….
Friends say Palin leaving due to attacks: Thank God I didn’t (Letterman sez)….
if after doing all that, swear, take a drink, and try again.
Hi lolli-xo! Wecome.
Hope there will not be too much bathroom talk tonight. It’s so ridiculous. I will leave the Prevo contingent with one parting thought: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Good night Mudpuppies. It’s been quite a couple of days hasn’t it.
Ah…last shot at SP: she’s fishing and whoops…a little water accident….visually shown…
You will be surprised at some of the things that comes out of the Redshirt’s mouths. Oh, no you wouldnt, because you have heard Sarah. Yeppers!
John…I was in your neck of the woods in May. My daughter lives in the Annapolis valley….it is so pretty. Hubby and I are going to retire there to be near the grand babes
Hi lolli-xo! Welcome.
Hope there will not be too much bathroom talk tonight. It’s so ridiculous. I will leave the Prevo contingent with one parting thought: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Good night Mudpuppies. It’s been quite a couple of days hasn’t it.
Coming up: top 10 involving SP’s answering machine….
I just was watching O’Reilly (channel surfing) he had the lady on that does body lanquage moods, they showed buttercup by the lake giving her speach and she said she was really angry watch her neck muscles tighten up.
Gotta love an assembly meeting where the presence of several police officers are required. And there is no need for this ordinance since there is no discrimination (one of the Red Shirts’ many disconnects with logic).
Nite LiladyNY sweet dreams
ROFL at the problem child!
…other hoof to drop….
bwahahaaaahahhaaa!!!!!!
zyggy,
Two great minds think alike!!!!
Hi Laurie,
I’m in the East 905
Oh David Letterman will not let Little Sarah alone now!!! LOL
jhop, keep trying to get the link to work, it’s worth the time and swear words. I just can’t blog all that they say, you need to see and hear to get the full impact.
Cool Laurie ,, My summer home is in the Valley. Yes, its beautiful down there. About an hour and 30 minute drive from where i’m at.
I’ve been studying so-called separation of church and state, and unfortunately churches can get away with a lot as long as they are dealing with legislative issues and not election of public officials. It is difficult to penalize them for lobbying. It is tough under federal law and Alaska state law.
However, the municipality of Anchorage has a lobbying ordinance. Their definition of “lobbyist” includes:
a. A person who is employed and receives payments, or who contracts for economic consideration, including reimbursement for reasonable travel and living expenses, to communicate directly or through the person’s agents with any public official for the purpose of influencing legislative or administrative action if a substantial or regular portion of the activities for which the person receives consideration is for the purpose of influencing legislative or administrative action; or
b. A person who represents himself as engaging in the influencing of legislative or administrative action as a business, occupation, or profession.
I wonder about b.– Would Prevo be a lobbyist? After all, he is a person who seems to be trying to influence legislative or administration as a minister (occupation).
Thoughts?
(The city of Anchorage sure doesn’t want to discuss this– I asked).
@PepperzMom: LOL; What a visual!!
jhop:
Not to try to confuse you, but if you’re having trouble with a live feed, sometimes enabling popups helps. I don’t like to recommend it, but just saying…
i looks like a beautiful full moon tonight
maybe the moon made buttercup do it
Friend just left to use the public restroom. I hope she doesn’t get traumatized by a guy in a skirt. Oh, wait, she’s a transexual herself. She’s there to traumatized them! Muahahahaha! Oh wait, no one realizes the gender she was born with.
justafarmer Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:33 PM
@ TBNTJudy:
those fart sound effects will start when the red shirts step up to the microphone.
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LOL! Between the sound effects and the other things you all posted that first night, I was howling. With laughter. Otherwise, I would have been crying.
@deist: yep, given that definition I’d say Prevo is a lobbyist.
lexky Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 7:38 PM
i looks like a beautiful full moon tonight
maybe the moon made buttercup do it
To bad the wolves aren’t out in force.They might think Sarah is Little Red Riding Hood,,,,.Hehehehe
OT Van Flea confirmed no decision yet on AFT complaint
You could call Prevo is a lobbyist,,, but I have other names for a person like him. But i’m too much of a gentleman to say them here.
When is the break supposed to be over? Have they started taking testimony from Red Shirts? Is Prevo still monitoring the Ladies room?
Kind of funny, Sarah called both Ruddy Giuliani and Cheney for advise before quitting. I guess she took their advise and ruined her political career.
@TBNTJudy:
I SWEAR it sounded like a fart that first night!
Oh, we’re back…..
They are back
come jhop, they’re back, get that putter working.
akgrrl,
The washrooms must be far away from the Assembly Room as I haven’t heard a scream yet in all the nights watching!!
lickety split
ooh…”lickety split”…a legal term!
You think the Mayor will stay for the circus of the red shirts?
Just poped in to give you all a bit of moral support, great work folks!
Is that a few blue shirts I see?? Yahoo I hope so!!!
Justafarmer and John(Canadian MudPuppy):
Wouldn’t it seem Prevo should register and dislcose? Hmmm . . . I wonder why Anchorage doesn’t require that of him.
He may have organized all kinds of other stuff that would need to be disclosed too– bus rides, red shirts, printing . . .
I wonder how much all that stuff cost.
The preamble of the lobbying ordinance says:
2.35.010 Purpose.
The assembly finds and declares that the operation of responsible representative municipal government requires that the fullest opportunity be afforded to the people to petition their government and to express freely to their local, elected and appointed representatives and officials, their opinions on pending legislation or government actions; and that the people are entitled to know the identity and activities of those persons who pay, are paid or reimbursed for expenses, or who make expenditures or other payments in an effort to influence legislative or other government action. The assembly further finds and declares that in the operation of responsible representative government, honesty and freedom from corruption are paramount.
JHop I usually run firefox but I couldn’t get it to come up, so I used IE. It took forever after buffering then it just jumped alive. So I am running two browsers, if that helps.
Canadian Neighbour, the washrooms are nearby. They were merely frightened into silence. Or they have no clue that someone who is different from them can be so harmless. And look so much like them (except proudly wearing a blue shirt).
The meeting has resumed but they are still doing other business. The Mayor is in the room. Don’t know if he’ll stay when the ordinance testimony begins.
Anyone else notice that Sullivan doesn’t have lips?
Top 10 SP answering machine messages…going to fast to get them all…
callers: GWB, McCain, Sanford, dry cleaners, sarah herself, Arnold,
1 McCain: Who’d have thought you’d retire before I do!!!!!!!!!
deist, I think Anchorage is already running fast and loose with commonsense.
This particular ordinance that the Assembly’s legal counsel is giving an opinion on right now (the employee furlough) is a case in point. This ordinance is ridiculous…it will give the employer a legal right to reduce pay despite a contract.
deist, you have my vote on it. It should be made mandatory.I’m sure if you dig deep enough,someone would find that he just like any other lobbyist in this country
this seems like a really stupid move.
akgrrl,
Let out a scream. When the red shirts come running trying desperately to prove their point — say it was a Mouse!!!
What I noticed about Sullivan: he was the least popular guy in the entire 4th parade. When he went by everything went silent. People just stopped, stood, and stared. And there was no eye contact. He just waved at something 5 miles away.
eek mudflats would not lose and I was freaking out! Hurry up and get on to the good stuff — this is boring
this guy is making some really nice points on behalf of the homeless
There are a few blue shirts and sometime they wear buttons too to represent.
I mean LOAD… not lose.. oops
i just dropped in — illegal to sleep outside in parks? this isn’t about the ordinance, correct?
oh, yes, the ordinance that requires a tent and bedding to sleep outdoors. That’s pretty stupid.
All righty, off to the ANC Assembly meeting, life among the homophobes, round 5 or 6
I agree lolli-xo,,its 1:12 am here and I work at 8,,,lmao
Let’s fine the homeless if they can’t afford a nice looking tent and sleeping bag.
he’s speaking from his heart, and it is true, what are the homeless to do? I think Prevo would think them as sinners and they need to go to hell. =)
oooh…this new guy…”how many people will die if this ordinance is approved and enforced?”
good luck greatgrey
this guy is really good!
And we’re not even to the ordinance we came for.
I didn’t know there would be ordinances outlawing homelessness.
@lolli-xo: Be patient. The drama will start soon enough.
yea he is justafarmer!
Justafarmer and John(Canadian MudPuppy):
I guess if I want to influence my local Anchorage government, I’ll need to join a church– they can use tax free funds to lobby while it is not so easy for others– non churches would probably have to comply with the ordinance.
Great confiscate the homeless shelters so they freeze and then we can put them in a pauper’s grave.
I cant hear a word she is saying! Yikes!!
Canadian Neighbour, it’s not a mouse, it’s a mudpup!
shes too close to the mic
While you are waiting: from comments on Wonkette
“Quit Happens”
We need a bumper sticker
Why can’t they sleep at the Wassila Sports Center or Prevos’s church?
deist Most churches deserve to have tax breaks, but Prevo’s should be disallowed,Period
this lady in yellow…give me a break! “The homeless person is an active player in being homeless”….excuse me while I barf…
might as well
nobody is at that sports center anyway
This guy makes some sense
Gee, someone really put forth an ordinance that discriminates against those who are homeless? Bah!
should have asked GreatGrey to wear something recognizable so we can cheer on sighting!
the ordinance would “force” the homeless to “take advantage” of services to homeless????
That’s stupid.
stimulus money ??
busting out the stimulas
thanks dems
fart !!
ah! a fart noise and we’re not even to the equal rights ordinanace!
Hahahahahaha It wwas pretty loud
Regarding an ordinance to criminalize homelessness, all I can say is Welcome to Alaska ….
really a real fart? damn I missed it.
ok, this guy is making sense about those homeless who have substance abuse issues…but tearing down illegal campgrounds doesn’t resolve the problem.
There need to be alternatives.
That’s really nothing new, they just called it “indigent” or “hobo” or something.
QUIT SPOILING LETTERMAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE don’t want to be OT but wez here to watch proceedings so we can travel to Ireland and Connecticut with our new Mudpuppy owners – we hope we get to see AKM before we goz.
LOVEs to Mona and Irish Girl…WfAK took us to the library to get politicized beefore our trip.
SOrry it is hard to type with tiny Moose hooves…
Not all homeless want to be in shelters due to theft, illness. Some homeless individuals are in need of medical intervention. Forcing into shelter is not necessarily the answer.
zyggy, I thought it was a fart the very first night, but we finally realized it was people moving the microphone making a fart noise
Vagrant, that’s it. “No vagrancy allowed”
I remember seeing signs like that when I was a kid. Not for years now tho
justafarmer 179
Probably a follower of the great ronald reagan – who labeled homelessness a lifestyle choice.
I love it Hahahahahahaha
Don’t forget to take a drink or a bite of chocolate covered bacon when you hear the fart!
I am glad this ordinance came up tonight. Normally these meetings are empty and there would be few if any testimonials.
what’s with the yellow buttons? What do they say?
but realizing it was the microphone being moved hasn’t stopped us from calling it “the fart”
Oh! If they’re yellow, it might be saying “I know Bob Poe”
the yellow button (I think) is “Equality Works”.
But I could be wrong about that.
there’s way too many red shirts in the seats for my taste..
I’m ready: cold bottle of Fat Tire and popcorn, relaxing in my chair…
this guy looks like a dick
@Closet Mudpup:
I think you got that Reagan quote right about homelessness being “a lifestyle choice”..how snarky and detached from reality!
Dang, popcorn sounds good.
CO almost native
What’s ‘Fat Tire’?
sorry
they have postponed action on the homeless ordinance?
akgrrl, what do the buttons say? You’re a lot closer than we are. =)
I see a fair number of blue shirts.
“homeless & single mothers” “inebriets”…
Who is that speaking?
There are many Equality Works buttons (equalityworks.org if you wish to support them!) of many different colors, including yellow. If I can read any specifically, I’ll let you know if they are different.
This guy is a dick
I’d slap that A$$’s face — I’m sorry — he’s an elected official and should not refer to them as ‘bums’. What’s that idiot’s name as I’m firing off emails tomorrow.
thank you akgrrl, now while you’re there, go smack the assemblyman taking trash about homeless people. -=)
The fact he lives in his cushy little house — This CDN pitbull gets PO’d with scum elected garbage like that.
ok, I can understand where the Assemblyman was coming from about taking his family to the park and having to put up with drunk bums.
However, this other Assemblyman speaking now is urging more thought.
john(canadian mudpup)
im glad im not the only one
I am looking at the backs of many heads, so a bit difficult to read the buttons. I’ll confirm when the meeting adjourns.
and the Assemblywoman right now is thanking the public who testified tonight and gave the other side of the issue.
does she only have a “red” assembly night top?
jhop, jhop, where are you?
zyggy, lol! I would if there weren’t so many police officers here. I admit it, I’m a wuss.
Lobby, watching Eddie Burke get his talking points.
A few could move into Palin’s office as it will be vacant.
you can blame Prevo’s god. Darn those lawmen, they always take the fun out of stuff like that. =)
i was wondering if eddie would rear his ugly head.
Burke is there? Again?!
are there mudpups there – and here, simultaneously?
Is Sen Steven’s Chalet public property now? A bunch could live there.
GreatGrey Says:
July 7th, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Lobby, watching Eddie Burke get his talking points.
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Seriously ?!?! That fat f^*k is gonna talk ?? Is he wearing that shirt ??
…and the little that the have nots have shall also be taken away
nan
greatgrey is there
I thought he spoke last week? (burke)
AkGrrl, I’m at the back of the chamber, blue shirt(duh) tapping away on IPhone.
maybe it’s his doppleganger.
Temporary,, that is stupid. WHo made this fool a cop.
hmmmm….this sounds like a very serious issue and the chairwoman wants people to be “succinct” because there’s another pressing issue that people want to testify about….this homeless issue is a waste of time? Let’s get to the Prevo redshirts?
Sounds like that’s pretty much what she meant.
Of course the police officier wants to throw them in jail. And then what?
is he wearing “the” shirt?
Jaw, Eddies not wearing that shirt tonight
he said he can’t arrest them, no law, but at least they would be safe for the night and at least warm.
It’s what the police are trained to do.
what a load of crap…this cop is saying it’s hard to find homeless camps????
sigh….”homeless inebrients”
cops are assholes
“there are choices being made to live in those camps”
hmmm.
Greatgrey, I’m in the middle on the left, typing away on my blackberry. I’m the one in the blue shirt.
A police officer is testifying on the homeless ordinance now, but he came here to testify against the equal rights ordinance. Interesting. He wants to solve the problem of homeless tent cities by arresting the homeless people and putting them all in jails – because they “choose” to live in tents, and they’re dirty!! WTF
The red shirts near me keep repeating the word “choose” whenever the officer says that. OMG
They are voting to postpone the homeless issue, but it failed.
Great grey, did he come shirtless?
What’s up with Mudflats tonight? I’ve had a heck of a time getting it to load. Then, I apparently queued up the wrong council meeting and have been listening to testimony about the Knik Bridge. Interesting, but not what I expected and not what folks are talking about here. Argh!
akgrrl: what row are you in?
akgrrl
im trying to find you
Can anyone help me with what number they’re on? thanks.
justafarmer
we are on the same wave tonight.
its the full moon
or in buttercups case a fool moon
Akgrrl, hee, a mumber of blue shirts in your area.
Physicsmom! Glad you finally found us! Have you got the current meeting now?
Well, the issue I wanted to see … ordinance 64 in any of its versions … seems to be very slow in coming to the floor. I’m not going to be able to stay up for the main event.
May the assembly keep their hearts open and their minds rational as the evening progresses.
Night all.
argggggggghhhh…this guy is blaming wildfires on the homeless?
if we don’t start talking about what we came here for, I’m going to pout away and watch Paris Hilton’s My New BFF =)
niters Ennealogic. I’m not sure how much later I’ll be able to stay up, either.
Bent AK I don’t think the police offi we – the chief I believe – is here to testify on 64 one way or another. He’s here in the lone of duty, has been here other nights too. Yes Selkregg just called him the chief.
6th row counting from the front, fourth seet in from the left side (my left). Hi mudpups!!! (* hugs to all *)
okay, all of you that are at the meeting, please raise your arms like you’re yawning.
Physicsmom,
Number 14M – seatbelt enforcement
what????? What happened to the homeless ordinance?
Hi akgirl and Greatgrey. {waving} I’m sitting on the left side near the front, at the end of the row.
Ugh Prevo goon just walked by, I smell sulpher.
lol, zyggy!
yuck, GreatGrey….thanks for taking the hit for the rest of us
Sorry, this one looses my support — It’s not the Assembly or the Dealer’s responsibility — Teach you kids.
Why would the city have a seatbelt ordinance. Isn’t that State law?
Temp seat , left side 3rd row far left end seat.
justafarmer – ck. e-mail before you crash. I’m about toast too.also.
k austin…
Mayor Sullivan cut out, big surprise.
Red Shirter – If you slap your kid around, they’ll not undo their seat belts. If parents don’t discipline their children they’ll turn gay and be sinners.
Hi BentAlaska! Hi GreatGrey! And everyone else here in spirit. Here, have some Finnish chocolate (the best in the world, imho) on me.
well this woman is so disengaged…”parents should teach their children” but she’s in favor of the ordinance … an ordinance that lets government dictate to families … and she’s a Prevo redshirt.
gack….they really are sheep….
lol Wolf Pack! good summary of her!
Hi all…
Nap was refreshing. When I saw the time, thought I’d missed all the action.
Toying around with firefox, just now got the assembly.
I missed NOTHING!
Who’s in the audience and where are they?
No sea of red… that’s good.
How are the numbers tonite?
okay, I have it figured out, take a homeless person with you in the car and if a child unclicks, the homeless person will be there to buckle him/her back up.
I solved two problelms, guess I’ll run for governor.
Sullivan cut out — What a way to start in your new office!!
Maybe he’s out front with Prevo!!!! and Eddie
Nite MudPuppies. Its 2:00 am and I work in the morning. Nite all and keep viligant.Give then hell akgirl and Greatgrey
14N
Sounds like they’ll be having seatbelt checks. I run into those about once in three years.
Does anyone know whether Sarah quit her job as sportscaster for Ktuu-tv or ktva-tv in Alaska? Or was she fired from either job?
Or how about her job writing for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman newspaper??
Night, John!
zyggy
Good One!
Killed two birds with one stone!!
Ooops — sorry — I forgot.
You guys shoot birds!!
zyggy, I think you figured it out!
I think Ill head back to the lobby and watch the reddies get coached.
samper, have you stopped bleeding? Those weedwhackers are the devil’s tool ya know.
greatgrey, let us know what they are saying.
The Agenda shows only 2 more resolutions.
15. SPECIAL ORDERS
16. UNFINISHED AGENDA
17. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Dude seems pissed!
If Burke is getting talking points, how can he speak again? He spoke at last meeting.
Justafarmer: It’s all good now. Even finished the yard work!
is that the mayor wearing a blue tie?
Sullivan didn’t cut out — Wonder if he met anyone in the Washrooms??
Anyone hear Sullivan scream??? LOL
Hi Donna in MI!
Where are you? I’m in Warren.
I’m with you Canadian Neighbor…Burke shouldn’t be allowed to speak again (he shoulda been duct-taped last time….but that’s just MHO…)
Hey mudpups, it’s my bed time, I need to get up at 5:00 am pst
Have fun, and give ‘em hell for me.
Canadian Neighbor @303: you are soooooo naughty!!!!!
samper, good to hear you’re ok!
God’s work can be dangerous sometimes.
I object!!!
here we go……….
Good god! She’s wearing RED again and opening ANOTHER list????
If Burke tries to talk you should protest. He already had his 3 minutes.
Here we go! Hope a whole ot of Reds didnt show!! Two hundred names. Yow!!!
Here we go!
crap…she has the old list and will take names for a NEW list…..
she’s saying it’s gonna go until AUGUST!
Oh gosh she is still inviting people to sign up to speak on Ord 64.
Farmer: Yes, but tending to God’s creation is my calling.
What is this guy saying? Garbled.
This should be an education for Sullivan.
Keep us informed of his reactions!!
If anyone is in the audience, wave from under the clock and ID yourself!!!
Uh Oh!! He’s a Christian! Did he say , “show up in McDonald’s in women clothes?
blah blah blah
What cost??
POINT? If you work for someone else, you do as they say. When you go home, do as you please.
???
Anyone else with sound trouble?
Here comes a philosopher… why are we here? what are we doing? I’m a Christian. I’m here to live. If I show up to flip burgers in a ladies dress, I’ll get fired. Do I have the right to read the Bible. You betcha but not at work. I do it at home.
The microphone is crappy. I think it’s farted one too many times!!!! LOL
August 11 is already on the calendar as a possible day for more testimony, if it takes that long… and after tonight, I assume that it will take that long… or longer.
Here we go! Good vs. Evil
good to hear, samper….
did I read earlier today that you have a bell pepper? (sorry for the completely OT outta nowhere…)
And here I thought Dan Sullivan was the Mayor. Obviously we elected someone named “god”.
I think Chair Ossiander’s plan is to keep people testifying until a new mayor is elected three years from now.
cripes, can any of this red shirts just talk without reading from a piece of paper????
Red shirt in glasses is going to tell us the difference between good and evil. Scripture reading! Selective of course to prove that God was for intolerence and bigotry.
Red shirt – All laws stem from old scripture, Amen. Gays are evil sinners.
oooh, looks like this guy is getting a little warm reading his testimony,.,,,
CN: LOL!
Geeze… Bible this, John that…
Law is EVIL.
Job this, God will judge that…
Where’s that whole separation of church and state thing? Someone dust that baby off and present to the lady in RED (2nd time she’s in RED!)
John, I think you’re correct….drag this out for three years.
Threatening the board. Voters are watching. What happened to God watching them?
John,
Sullivan may spring a resignation on Anchorage if he has to listen to too many of these meetings therefore getting a new mayor earlier than thought!!
Red shirt reading the Bible to the Assembly, supporting theocracy. Did he just threaten to get *them* recalled?
Dude ain’t from those parts!
Sounds like a southerner!
Everything’s been said – then SU and siddown!
WTH? what was that question from the Assemblyman affirming the redshirt has a first amendment right to religion?????
comedy minute
Moved to right side behind capt America in the red ball cap
this guy is definitely wearing an Equality Works button.
“Discrimination is the foundation of freedom.” OMG
lol! “democracy is mob rule”….
What is he saying? Discrimination creates benefit for others?
Has Confed Flag … what a patriot!
he might be from ky justafarmer
Is he going to beat us with metaphors and take us back 3000 yrs? “How many have read the Constitution in the last 5 years?” He is not going to sit still for the ordinance! He is 75, Whooped-de-doo. I knew you had a Confederate flag in your yard. Oh, he is long die hard bigot!!
3000 years ago, everything has been said under the sun!!
Throwing rocks at a hornets nest.
How many have read the Constitution in the last 5 years (assembly panel)
Discrimination is the foundation of freedom.
I ain’t gonna sit still for it!! (set the hornets nest under his arse!!)
Got Yankee neighbours, confed flag in the garage (step back from the mic!!!)
Heavan help you all on election day if you pass this ord.
Is this guy drunk or nuts?
He still flies the Confederate flag. Apparently wants slaves.
yow lexky….I think he is!!!!
heaven help ya’all on election day if this passes.
don’t clap!
Freedom of Association? yes!
Confederate flag in his house, openly racist, doesn’t care what his black neighbors think… these are the people who oppose the ordinance.
bet we know who he voted for in o8
This kid was getting coached earlier
OH GOD! A RAP SESSION!
OMG!!!!!!!! Discrimination Rap!!!
Unbelievable! This Red Shirt brought his kid along so he can make sure that the kid is inudated thoroughly with bigotry and intolerance! Is he rapping? Call in Snoop Dog! Yikes!! Rapping hatred.
is this for real??????????????
WTF, the whitest, nerdiest kid in America is rapping at an assembly meeting.
Nice touch with the glasses.
Where are their parents? Who would allow that at a gov’t meeting?
A rap sound from a Red Shirter. WTF this is like Hee Haw.
I’ll give them credit for creativity only!!
That was ridiculous! (Red shirt rap) ARGH!
mic farts.
long time anch taxpayer.
where are so called crimes against gays? Show PROOF!
This kid will be getting a swirly sometimes soon.
i think ive seen those kids on another video before doing something like this.
I can prove there is discrimination. Look around this very room.
Another Red Shirter asking where’s the bigotry? Where’s the proof?
that rapper was a PARENT? I thought the kid was his brother!
bucfan: LOL!
@bentalaska: there are Confederate flags flying all over the place in my area of eastern Kentucky.
It’s like dogs marking territory…you know where you can talk out loud and where you just shut up.
he thinks hes a bad ass
Where are the stats to prove discrimination? Playground teasing doesn’t rise to this level. Asked Claman to give him his time. Why? Claims of discrimination defame our good name. Only group being denied rights in state and country is unborn child.
Where’s the evidence. Where’s the police reports.
Can you proof discrim in Anchorage.
Look at future generations and be proud of this.
Is this the best use of our time.
Who’s behind this – who are you beholden to?
He left his red shirt at home. He doesnt care what people go in their bedroom. He is in denial!! Now he is garbling! Future generations should not be proud of his hatred and bigotry! Unborn child!! What? Cut the mike!!!!
This one was talking wit fat Eddie
Who are you beholden to?
OMG! Abortion! Dude won’t shut up!
Who is the guy who keeps asking the Constitutional ??’s?
cut his mic! lol!
Who’s behind this. Where’s the wizzard? What’s in my pants? How am I? Are you establishing a religion? What’s my name?
did this girl mention restrooms before she even started testifying?
Here comes a potty story from girl…
Okay. If there is no bigotry then lets remove religion from the protected status.
Can’t understand this latest girl at all. Mic is just terrible. I may have to check out, this is just too hard to listen to. Is this girl pro or con the ordinance?
never mind…she said restaurant, not restroom…my bad….
That mike sucks!!
Discriminated against at 15 for being straight and Christian.
Yeah, right.
is that fat eddie in the back
wait a minute……
I think she IS talking potty talk after all
It’s hard to understand the people tonight. Garbled sound
ahhhh….she’s a CHRISTIAN….
it IS potty talk,,,,
everyone take a drink
Straight discriminated against by gays. I’m sure but, the ordinance would prevent that too, idiot!
I like Matt Claman’s questions.
Good, I thought my computer was going bad or else my hearing was getting worse.
Wish I knew where Claman was going with the questions about the Bill of Rights. It’s good, I’m sure, but I just don’t see the end game yet. I assume all will be revealed in time.
lexky, I think so…Eddie leaning against the wall, wearing a white shirt?
why are we getting a question after every speech
Bill Light… making sure they note his name/number.
He sounds better than others mic wise.
Why do folks keep moving to Anch if so horrible with discrimination?
No proof of disc.
Ord intrudes on people’s lives. How so, IDIOT?
that is him
Fine, then let’s remove all protected groups who are there by choice only. THis guy is getting on my last nerve.
Another Red Shirt saying there is no discrimination. Go ask Eddie Burke, fool.
Mike in Red! Lived in Anchorage for many years. If Anchorage was discriminatory and hateful, why did Anchorage receive an award? Bigotry and discrimination are oozing from this good citizen.
The constitution came from God and the Bible??
Constitution came right from God and the Bible. Not in my reality, nor the founders, I’m quite sure.
oooh…Burke apparently heard us lexky.
Looks like he moved
Yes, Eddie is at the back
If discrimination is not on the books as illegal, then there is no basis for police reports to be written. Therefore their ad nauseam requests for proof and police reports will therefore not exist. They are spinning this
yikes….this woman said this nation was founded by God
She just said “PANTS DOWN”!!!!!!!!
you cant miss him hes taking up all the room back there
Framers of Const are, at this moment, rolling around in their graves.
The whole POINT of coming to america was to get away from religious oppression.
How did she know my pants were down?
A reformed fornicator!
God’s Nation, even his name is on currency. Everyone must surrender to the Al Mighty. Jesus loves me because I’m straight and he loves me. And he hates the gay sinners.
Are our souls “lost”?
God didn’t say a thing about that when we spoke this afternoon!
Blah, blah, blah blah blah. Isn’t her time up
Akm, God, bible, and Mothra.
thanks GreatGrey! I thought that was him.
Good lord, this woman can’t even read what she has written in front of her.
OMG! we have to worry about “etcetera” in addition to everything else
ill ask again are we at church?
they do know about the seperation of church and state…………
Woman in Red is talking about how she has submitted herself to Jesus Christ. Homosexuality will bring about fornication, yada, yada. Quotes from Bible. God talks directly to her and she listens. Must know Buttercup!!
lol AKM!
And how did she know it was God talking? They say that Satan comes in many forms. And what did the moron yell out?
What mental institution are these people from?
Aieee, the fornicator just sat in front of me, I feel dirty.
I hope I NEVER reform from fornicatin’
I happen to LIKE it!
OOOH! Evil ME!
Repent of your sins – let’s throw out civil law and return to Medieval rule (you know – the Dark Ages) Reading a prayer to the Assembly. I bet the Assembly is getting sick of hearing ignorant people read the Bible to them.
Debbie finally found a bit of chutzpah and told that guy he’d be taken out if he interrupted again.
she just chose NOT to answer a question fro the Assembly????
YOW….must be one of those “etcetera” things….
califpat
amen
Fornication? This guy should be rated PG-13
God is here but I may be invisible.
No, I think I saw him go into the ladies room.
oooh…a travelogue…
Egypt, Sodom & Gommorah….restrooms can’t be far behind….
oh, and this guy is a dictionary as well…
great gray: where are you? I see a guy in white shirt apparently blackberrying on right side as you look at assembly members.
MORE Bible stuff… wicked… righteous… blessings!
Ord wrong before God and Man.
I feel sleepy….
I’m thinking that I may never go to church again after these testimonies. Being judgmental is not one of Christ’s teachings. They seem to think that by saying that they have gay friends, they accept “these” people, and they love them that it makes it ok to be so prejudiced and judgmental. Really as they come up to the mic and start preaching, I just want to say, “STFU! HYPOCRITE!” (sorry Lord)
Wolf Pack, you are killing me tonight!
Again, did anyone hear what the one guy yelled out. Go back to church.
And here I thought the Red Shirts were against the right to choose.
threats tonight
they have stepped up there game
or buttercup gave them her very small playbook
AKM, sermons do that to me as well….
AKM, I feel disgusted.
We are definitely in Bible class and are being given definitions from the dictionary. More scriptures! “This ordinance is wrong”. Prays to God for allowing him to spew hate and bigotry.
AKM are you there or blogging from home?
I am home this time. Spouse is there. AKM
Ha ha, they have finally caught on to Clayman’s questions.
I hope someone gets ejected. I really do.
Where are the Blue Shirts???!
wont answer questions
I accept everyone, no matter background.
But watch! He’ll say he doesn’t support ord.
Me too, AKM, me too. It would have happened long ago in my town.
I keep waving my sparkly purple star wand at the screen but those red shirt people won’t go “poof away”….
Samper right side 2nd row 3rd seat from left blue shirt ( faded I guess)
(Waving at you Great Grey!) AKM
Dang. What a thing to wake up to!
and if i hear homo “agenda” one more time, you’ll hear me from wherever you are.
(I don’t wake up nicely… or nice)
geez, what a putz
Okay, I had never looked at the Alaska Constitution in regards to freedom of religion and of course it mirrors the US Constitution, no law shall be made respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Okay, I see where Matt Clayman may be going here. If they are free to practice their religion by the constitution then why should religion be included in the ordinance?
omg I can not stand this.. what is wrong with these people.. where are the non red shirters this is depressing!
if we had one of these meetings in ky,
lets just say alaska hasnt seen anything
“sex act?” “sexual sins” Oy.
Ooh good, I shall be forgiven. Nice to know.
wake up: I’m not getting the questions and refusal to answer.
God’s plan for natural sexual relationship … gays denying God.
I don’t like guys with long hair… won’t hire him, rent him an apt., or let him near my children.
He looks like he could throw on a dress at any minute and enter a ladies’ room!
justafarmer, wave harder!
Red Shirt… ditto.
If all these Bible thumpers are going to say the same thing, what is the point of all of them testifying.
A Christian who like everybody but has just torn strips from homosexuals.
Sexually immoral
Ask God to show you the way out of sin
@AKM:
an ejection!!!!!!
oooh, how will that play??
will it be a planned ejection or a premature-ejection?
feel free to delete this post but I thought it needed to be said.
who told them not to answer questions
They aren’t smart enough to know why Claman is asking his questions, but they know he is playing with them. lol.
The guy things the the ordinance will end the existence of God.
Okay! sounds good to me!
He seems to be trying to explain what homosexuals are. He is saying that homosexuals can be changed back to heterosexual through God.
GreatGrey,
Tell Eddie I heard a rumor — heard he’s gay
Goes with his rumor he started that he beats his wife
Goes with his rumor that Shannyn’s a “L”
He started these while laughing on his radio show the other day with C 4P.
I think I’m getting it a few minutes behind you all. They’re just now taking a break
that damn eddie
i know it was him
Another break!