Ordinance 64 Public Testimony – Live Blog
7 07 2009
We’ve had a bit of a breather, but we’ve come to the next installment of Red Shirt Theater. The Non-Discrimination Ordinance public testimony continues. It may take a while to get to it. The schedule can sometimes be fluid… But the link is HERE.
Use this thread to live blog the meeting if you feel so inclined.
This will be the first round of public testimony in front of new Mayor Dan Sullivan.
Recent polling suggests that the ordinance has very good public support, although you’d never know it from watching these meetings.
~~Mudflatter & Forum Moderator Writing from Alaska brought Brians to the Assembly meeting!
July 8th, 2009 at 1:18 AM
I love shellfish I could’nt pass up scallops or shrimp!! EVER!
And yes that Muthee guy I just don’t know what scared me was the belief the world would end anyway so if Palin was elected she would’nt care about any LEGACY or moral correctness of what we are leaving for our children — which she bashed Obama about in the Time article — re: stimulus and healthcare plan. I don’t know where she gets off when her church says there is no point anyway the world will end, drill baby drill, nuclear war… and morals there? future of the kids?? ummm yeah sarah just keep at it..
July 8th, 2009 at 1:20 AM
wow over 1000 posts.. Ive noticed the past couple of months the growing number of comments here at mudflats and a steady decline in comments over at c4p.. anyone else?
July 8th, 2009 at 1:21 AM
wow over 1000 posts.. Ive noticed the past couple of months the growing number of comments here at mudflats and a steady decline in comments over at c.4.p.. anyone else?
July 8th, 2009 at 1:22 AM
lolli – “future of the kids” and the end of the world – mutually exclusive. Therefore, immaterial.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:23 AM
I’ve noticed a distinct difference – at ADN, specially!
July 8th, 2009 at 1:26 AM
For soem reason when I go to ADN only the first 2 pages of comments will load for me.. so I don’t usually read them.. I’m guessing a similar patten then?
July 8th, 2009 at 1:28 AM
I’ve noticed that there are far fewer “abuse” buttons pushed by the ‘bots (palinbots) on the “anti-palin” comments. Seems a good thing to me.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:30 AM
I should say “critical of palin” instead of “anti” as even the right wing has been critical of her on occasion, and more lately.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:30 AM
ahh yes I have read here about that.. It is a good thing. People are slowly coming to their senses. I feel bad for the ones who have contributed their money though, I feel bad when I read they still are.. sigh.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:33 AM
The ones that give her adulation, it’s as if they’ve hooked themselves to a (rapidly falling) star and will go to the ends of the earth defending her.
They’re one reason I picked the sig line I did:
“I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.”
-Galileo Galilei
works for me
July 8th, 2009 at 1:37 AM
It’s hard to let go when you have made such a huge emotional investment which many seem too, letting go of the image of who they think she is.. etc.etc
July 8th, 2009 at 1:39 AM
ok time to move from the chair to bed… and to take the keyboard with me! I have officially sat here all day and now its nearly 10pm lol
July 8th, 2009 at 1:40 AM
Hey mudpups – don’t go to bed scared tonight of Muthee or his ilk. He’s a liar, just like someone else we know and don’t love!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/sarahpalin/3204292/False-claims-exposed-of-Kenyan-pastor-who-protected-Sarah-Palin-from-witches.html
There are more links, but then I would be sent to the spam god.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:42 AM
Martha – Awesome!! I’ll check that one out for sure.
I may copy and paste it in an email to myself though, I’m whacked and fading fast
lolli – understood!
Oh! new thread (open thread)
Nan
July 8th, 2009 at 1:46 AM
oh my why does that not suyprise me another person connected to sarah a proven liar.
July 8th, 2009 at 1:56 AM
lolli – rofl
Good point.
I gotta ge some sleep if I can
Mudpup love to all,
Nan
July 8th, 2009 at 3:22 AM
night nan — i just posted a summary of the assembly oin the open thread.
July 8th, 2009 at 6:01 AM
Congratulations lolli on your up coming nuptials.I believe that JESUS TAUGHT THAT WE SHOULD TREAT OTHERS AS WE WOULD WANT TO BE TREATED WOULD ALL THOSE RED SHIRTS WANT TO BE TREATED THE SAME WAY AS THEY SEEM TO WANT TO TREAT OTHERS WHO MAY NOT GO TO THEIR CHURCH OR HAVE THEIR SAME BELIEFS.nan talking about dancing and beliefs does any one know what happened to the young man that went to a evangelical private school that said dancing was a sin and on his own time ,after school went to a prom with his girlfriend who was from another school? Haven’t heard anything since the parents said they would sue as the dance was at another school and not his school activity.That sounded as bad as whats going on up there.Remember what happened in California and what the church of latter day saints did. Bunch of loons. No offense but I have heard several people who are fleeing the police say they would move to Alaska and no one would think to look for then there LOL Sure hope its not true
July 8th, 2009 at 9:45 AM
OT
wow martha – great article about the witchdoctor.
“You cannot make personal gain on crucifying a woman,” said an ally of Mama Jane, Pastor Gideon Maina. “As a man of God, you don’t make your name by stepping on other people’s names.”
Why does this sound familiar…..
July 8th, 2009 at 10:36 AM
OT agian, sorry.
whoa, just re-read what I wrote….and it sounds ambiguous, so please let me clarify:
Kind of like the way Palin treated:
1. Obama
2. The Media
3. David Letterman
4. Her Critics
5. The State and People of Alaska
July 8th, 2009 at 10:43 AM
And….in an attempt to bring my conversation back to the very important subject matter of this post…..
As usual, Bent Alaska has great insight, re-published a great letter that is worth a read and, of course, a comment of support.
Good luck in everyone’s fight for Equality.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:46 AM
http://blog.buzzflash.com/honors/190
And our Wings of Justice award is geared to reward those people such as Shannyn Moore. She has been in the lion’s den for a long time dealing with one of politics’ most proficient liars. Bravery and courage are two traits you need to go repeatedly into that lion’s den. And Shannyn Moore clearly has those, and we gladly give her the Wings of Justice award.
WOW, buttercup has even more to suck up. Hooray for you Shannyn. Can things get any more negative for ms palin. I hope so.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:58 AM
sorry. posted here by mistake. Wish we had that delete by author button here.
July 8th, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Thank you all for telling us what went on in the meeting. I didn’t get to watch for log had to go for procedures this morning. I tried but it was going to be to late to watch, again thank you.
First thing we need to biatch slap John McCain
Second thing, we slap his azz again so he will remember the first
Now if this board and the Mayor of Anchorage can’t tell of the treatment of Gays,Lesbians, Transsexuals and others to be extremely hostile and discriminatory they are just plain out stupid. All you have to do is read these comments and see the discrimination in them. The minutes of these meeting alone are proof enough of discrimination that is alive and well and some even flaunted it.
I live in Ga. and was a police officer for over 20 years and I have seen a lot. I have seen guys in dresses, but they have more feminine in them than I do. Men in dresses are not interested in women, oy. What these men should worry about is the guy that is standing next to him at the urinal that is dressed just like him. Why in the world do they think that gays cross dress, do these people never get out and get educated.
You never know now days who a person is much less than judging them on how they dress. I have to many examples that I myself have witnessed. A real quick one, my mother and I were in a auto parts place, a man kept making lewd remarks, I looked up because I heard someone enter the store. Well in walked a man, that was like 6′4 about 340 lbs, hair way down his back, jeans so nasty you could have planted a garden, wearing a Hell’s Angel jacket. For those not familiar very, very, bad biker gang. Well my mom was already uncomfortable now she was terrified because of his appearance. My senses heightened but I was ok, well jerko popped off something to me again, well I didn’t have to worry, biker dude had my back, he also had jerko guy by the scruff of the neck and threw him out the door. Biker dude came back in and apologized to my momma and myself and introduced himself to us that he was Attorney such and such and he sure was sorry that the man behind the counter wasn’t man enough to take care of this before he got there.
Oh and by the way every pedophile, child molester, bestiality, necrophiliac that I have met (a lot) have all been heterosexual white men ages 25 to 60. So can we please discriminate against this group because of the statistics. These stats can be verified and I am sure the religious faction will have a hard time backing up their slander and rumors, but of course they have had a terrific role model a Gov. in name no less.
Oh heck I forgot a group, how about, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charlie Manson, Solar Temple,Heaven’s Gate and don’t forget those real nasty little buggers, Dwight “Malachi” York, oh here is Koresh again.
I hope not OT Your Honor AKM it is relative; http://www.nowpublic.com/world/statistics-child-molestation (pay close attention to the very last one)
* The average child molester will molest fifty girls before being caught and convicted.
* A child molester that seeks out boys will molest 150 boys before being caught and convicted and he will commit at least 280 sexual crimes in his lifetime.
* The standard pedophile will commit 117 sexual crimes in their lifetime.
* Most sexual abuse happens between the ages of 7 and 13.
* There are over 491,720 registered sex offenders in the United States.
* 80,000 to 100,000 of the above offenders are missing.
* Molesters known by the family or victim are the most common abusers. The “Acquaintance Molester†accounts for 70-90% of reported cases.
July 8th, 2009 at 3:38 PM
pay close attention to the percentage of stranger assaults, only 10%,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse
Oops can’t forget those pesky Catholic priest.
July 9th, 2009 at 12:47 AM
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