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Open Thread – Craziness

What a day at Mudflats Central.

The editorial staff is ripping their hair out.

The fact checkers are having a hissy fit.

The switchboard is going crazy.

Middle management is running around putting out fires.

The writers are sitting at their desks, tapping at the keys, erasing, retyping, deleting and finally, ceremoniously throwing piles of papers into the air.

Even the coffee provider is in a quandary.  It’s 80 degrees in Alaska and nothing is air conditioned, but caffeine is needed. 

And Human Resources is ready to can the whole lot of them because they’re driving everyone nuts.

And yes, all of the people above are … me.

So, on my way home,  I decided to indulge in a frozen latte because it’s 80 degrees.  If you’ve lived in Alaska for more than 2 summer cycles, 80 degrees feels like 120 degrees.  And the air is muggy and thick with smoke from forest fires in the interior, and cotton wood fluff that makes everyone’s allergies go bananas.  So, I pull up to the coffee place, and hit the drive through window.  I realize I have no cash.  My throat is on fire.  I’m sweating.  ‘Buf’ the dog is panting up a storm and drooling on the seat.  I’ll buy a $20 coffee card.  I don’t care at this point.  I’m HOT.  It’s icky.  I want my frozen latte! (being all petulant and grumpy)  I hand the coffee girl my Visa and ask for the $20 punch card.  She stares at my hand reaching out the window of my car.  She doesn’t move.

“Oh.  We only take cash or checks.”   She chews gum.

Noooooooooooooooooo!

I paused a moment, hoping some magical solution would come to me.  I pulled over into one of the parking spaces. Buf and I got out of the car and I turned the entire thing upside down, shaking vigorously in the hopes that some hidden change would fall out.  No luck.

Scowling and even more sweaty, I made my way home to find something in the yard that actually made me smile. 

brianhotday

 

Brian the Moose!  Haven’t seen him in a while, but there he was.  I can’t imagine wearing that coat in this weather, or what sized frozen latte would make him feel better.  I’m thinking probably the 10-gallon enormo.

So, the point of all this is…   I need to make some lemonade.  And then I’m going to pour it over my head.  And then I’m going to finish working on a post.  But in the meantime, here’s an evening time open thread, since the last one is chock full and now has over 500 comments.

Thanks for indulging your hot sweaty cranky staff today!

P.S.  The moderation crew (me) also apologizes for the extra amount of comments that are being sent to moderation.  Not sure what’s up with that, but they promise to try to keep up with it!

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July 8th, 2009

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  1. 1
    SuchanutNo Gravatar says:

    AKM – You are cracking me up over here! I can relate! 83 in my backyard when I got home! Dogs are drooling puddles all over the place! However, I am using my lemonade to make a Wine Cooler! Yum!

    If the Leg is meeting on the 20th – can you and Shannyn go down to live blog? Do we need to raise some funds to make that happen? :)

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    DrChillNo Gravatar says:

    Deep sigh.. breathe..
    Mentally go to your ‘happy place’
    I’d send you a happy email, but that would be something else to read to, also.
    Hmmm
    Thanks for the Brian Pic.
    Chill be well.
    (Thats my Rx … Chill Be well )

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    Sourdough MulletNo Gravatar says:

    LOL! My doggies are hating this weather, too. Especially my double-coated Husky. I just made them a frozen “Yummy Chummy” smoothie. Ah!!!!! They said…..

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    LOL. 80 degrees. That’s a cool summer day here in VA.

    Are you sure the high temps aren’t from all the hot air GIDO (governor in DAYS only) is blowing trying to explain why she isn’t a “deranged frostvixen quitterface” and is in fact an American hero lady??

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    Canadian NeighbourNo Gravatar says:

    Lemonade is Sticky – Don’t pour it over your head!

    Brian – Love your new antlers!! How Moosely they look!

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    NinufarNo Gravatar says:

    good lemonade to you!

    And I agree, over 80 deg + muggy atmosphere == mental lapse city. Short fuse city.

    Take care and bask in the non-heat-generating admiration of so many!

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    Oh, and for caffeine + cold + yummy, I highly recommend a blend of Yogi Tea’s Mexican Sweet Chili and Green Tea Rejuvenation flavors over ice. Snappy and tasty and a good substitute for my once-beloved and now forsaken diet Pepsi.

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    You all have probably seen this, but in case anyone else managed a relatively Palin-free day and is just catching up like me also too:

    Key Reason Palin Gave For Quitting May Be False

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/key-reason-palin-gave-for-quitting-appears-to-be-false/

    Just put up a new post on that topic! :-) AKM

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    GUESS WHAT, YOU GUYS!!!!!

    (I live in WARREN!)

    From our local NBC Affiliate:

    POSTED: Wednesday, July 8, 2009
    UPDATED: 7:46 pm EDT July 8, 2009
    AP
    LANSING, Mich. — President Barack Obama will come to Warren next Tuesday.

    The city of Warren, hard-hit by auto industry downsizing (me included), will be the site of President Barack Obama’s visit to Michigan next Tuesday.

    The White House released the information Wednesday. No additional details were given.

    I’m going to try to figure out how to go!!!!

    I need a really great question to ask. REALLY great!!!!!!

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    Ripley in CTNo Gravatar says:

    OOOhhhh Brian is so handsome!!! Thanks AKM.

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    I bet Brian came round looking for a cold beer. I hear he hates a drink. ;)

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    The Rubber Room HotelNo Gravatar says:

    Oh AKM I get you, it is hot and miserable and very smokey where I am at too.
    I hope you enjoy a nice adult beverage enjoy a cool shower and have a relaxing evening.

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    SuchanutNo Gravatar says:

    Ripley – how are you doing? Sauerkraut was asking for you…

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    samper Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 6:53 PM
    GUESS WHAT, YOU GUYS!!!!!
    —————————————-
    That’s exciting! Ask him if he reads Mudflats. :D

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    HistoryGoddessNo Gravatar says:

    This was posted as a comment to the Plumline article (access through HuffPo.) Interesting. Mudpuppy? Was this builder’s lien already discussed over here?

    # freethinkergirl | July 8th, 2009 at 07:02 pm

    Is there something brewing with the “housegate” rumor?
    Remember their house was “built by Todd” and a “few buddies” at the same time as the Wasilla Sport’s complex. Many of the sport’s complex materials were also used in the Palin house. Not to mention the (sport’s complex) windows in the Palin house. Due to their size, these needed cranes to be installed, impossible task with just a “few buddies”.

    The Palins have consistently denied that Spenard Builders Supply was involved with the construction of their home, (the building company which built the Sport’s Complex simultaneously). SBS received lucrative contracts from Gov. Palin, who in turn received donations from SBS as well as SBS family and friends:

    Here is the recorded document (of the construction/builder’s lien) which proves Spenard did build the Palin House, the question now is how much did the Palins benefit, besides lying about this? Research would need to be done on construction loans and how “quickly” those were “paid off” to the bank. How much was reported to the IRS, etc.

    Document Year: 2001 Number: 022840
    District: 311 – PALMER
    Date Recorded: 10/19/2001
    Index: LI – LIENS
    Desc: ALASKA NTC OF RIGHT TO LIEN
    Grantor – PALIN TODD
    Grantor – PALIN SARAH
    Grantor – WELLS FARGO BANK WEST
    Grantee – SPENARD BUILDERS SUPPLY
    Location: Lot: 3 Block: 1
    No Plat Subdivision: SNIDER

    It is likewise interesting that hile serving as mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin blocked an initiative that would have required the public filing of building permits—thus momentarily preventing the revelation of such suspicious information.

    Here is the public recorder’s website:

    http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/DocDisplay.cfm?SelectedDoc=20010228400&District=311

    >snip

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    NanNo Gravatar says:

    It’s so good to see Brian again! It might have even been worth the headache in the drive-thru.

    I’m in humidity haven here… I’d love to see 85 (instead of the 90 and climbing we’re getting this week)

    Nan

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    Forty WattNo Gravatar says:

    Brian is looking positively dapper. Hope it’s cooled down some.

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    Moose PuckyNo Gravatar says:

    The sun over here looks like a red moon through all smoke haze. Out on the water today, which was a bit cooler. We caught one king salmon (yumm), two sockeye, and one pink.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Well – it’s 94 right now at 10:13pm……….It was a hunnertsix today……..
    With all due respect……..Suck it up Buttercup !!

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    zyggyNo Gravatar says:

    poor akm, 80 is hot for me in Seattle, so I know how you felt. Checks no credit cards? OMG, that is just weird, usualy it’s the other way around.

    Beautiful picture of Brian, he looks so proud. Must be those two kids our mooselets he has.

    Don’t know if you have a Tully’s in Anchorage, but they make a espresso ice cream, and they will make a shake for you and add a couple shots and milk. That stuff makes my knees weak just writing about it.

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    Lee323No Gravatar says:

    We feel your pain, AKM.

    Remember today when the snow flies.

    Brian is obviously getting into shape for the rutting season. He looks quite svelte and glossy…..compared to poor Brenda who’s busy growing those two mooselets.

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    HistoryGoddess Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 6:57 PM
    _____

    Interesting… is that a second shoe I hear dropping???

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Seeing Brian was a good sign that all will be ok.

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    honestyinGovNo Gravatar says:

    With that nice sleek, shiny new coat of his and the posture he is in… Brian reminds me a racehorse standing there…. sort of ;-)

    AKM… you must tell us though, was he just standing in your yard next to the driveway (because that’s what it looks like ) when you came home or did you shoot this pic with a telephoto..?
    He looks very close…. and very unafraid. Obviously he sees you and didn’t run off.

    He was just standing there. I was about 20 feet away when I took the picture. He’s not afraid at all. Not even of the dog anymore. I think he’s been hanging out around here most of his life, and isn’t really concerned much about the usual goings on. I do take the usual precautions, though. Just in case he’s in a bad mood. ;-) AKM

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    We probably haven’t broken 70 in Detroit all week. It’s nice, cuz I don’t have A/C.

    Brian needs to find that creek the other moose and her baby were swimming in!

    I need help!

    Checked whitehouse.gov, cityofwarren.org, and google.

    No info on how to get Town Hall tickets.

    Any suggestions?

    Also Too: Aussie, GOOD ONE! :-)

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    History Goddess – I don’t believe they denied Spenard’s involvement in supplying the materials. They compared it to shopping at Lowe’s etc.

    Just need to find the purchase order with extra amounts on it and the truck that had 2 stops that day.

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    As the temp rises, so does crime!

    People get cranky in the heat.

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    I completely understand, AKM. I know 80 doesn’t sound hot to some people but even here in the Seattle area, 80 degrees can start to be uncomfortable. We’re not used to it, and most people don’t have air conditioning in their homes. I have it in my car, but it’s not working, needs to be charged again.

    And yes, it gets muggy here too. We seem to be going from hot (mid 80s for us) to cold. Today it was in the 60s and cloudy, like it was trying to rain all day. And everyone’s allergies, including mine that I didn’t really know I had, have been awful this spring and summer.

    What a nice surprise that Brian stopped by for a visit. I bet he knew you were trying to buy something cold to drink and thought he’d share.

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    futurexpat?No Gravatar says:

    NIce to see Brian again. He looks fit and healthy.

    I used to live in Warren.

    Enjoy 80. I know it doesn’t get like that often up there, but we’ve been up there in the summer when it was. Must admit I like 70 better, though.

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    tizzielishNo Gravatar says:

    I haven’t read every single comment posted here or any of the many places people post comments about the strange Sarah Palin saga. . . . I apologize if what I am about to write is redundant. I am sure AKM has made suggestions similar to the one I am about to make. . . and here it is:

    Has it ever occurred to Sarah Palin that she could respond to the stream of ethics complaints by, um, taking her professional ethics very seriously? Instead of shrieking about unfair bloggers in their jammies, she could have opened dialogues about what are the appropriate ethics for someone in elected office in Alaska? And she could have openly discussed recalibrating her behavior. She could talk about wishing to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. . .

    I am not focussing on the Arctic Cat thing because it matters much to me. . . but it seems like a simple, easy example of how Palin could have at least tried to turn an ethics complaint into both a productive discussion for her constituency, which is Alaskans, and an opportunity to score some positive points for herself. I think she might have said “You know, now that it has been pointed out to me, I can see how anyone who happens to be the governor of a state represents the people all the time and I can see that gee, maybe I was wrong to use my positional power to promote a private corporation.” I think she could have scored a whole lot of points just by being a tiny bit humble.

    I am curious about the ethics complaints process in Alaska. I bet most governors in most states have ethics complaints filed against them . . . but we don’t hear about them all the time. Most of them drift in relative anonymity. I think we all hear about Palin’s dustups because she keeps them in the public eye.

    I don’t know. She is so strange and weird. I am feeling a little sorry for her this evening. In a way, she seems like an attention-starved kid. Crabby, attention-starved kids often perpetuate their problems because they are tired and missed their nap and they keep misbehaving just because they are too tired to stop.

    I hope that Sarah Palin takes some private vacation time after July 26th, when she cedes her power to Parnell. I hope she, Todd, their children and other close loved ones spend a lot of private time alone and happy. She is a human being, entitled to be happy, yes? I see them on a remote beach in Hawaii, having a great time.

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    PepperzMom (GA)No Gravatar says:

    Well, it’s downright “cold” in GA lately – only in mid/upper 80′s and fairly low humidity. We had 17 (18???) straight days of 90+ temps and high humidity – that ended only a few days ago…

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Samper – call your democratic representative’s office?

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    Chi TownNo Gravatar says:

    60 and rainy in Chicago today. Kids still wanted to swim outside. Needed a warm coffee poolside to cope. Oh well, forecast is for sun and 85 degrees tomorrow.

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    overthemoonNo Gravatar says:

    I worked for myself for a while. Boss was a bitch and the help was lazy. Know what you’re going through.

    Come on down to Kansas this weekend, its supposed to be 95-100 degrees!

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    SmallStepsNo Gravatar says:

    Oh AKM – I hope you find a nice cold adult beverage! That picture of Brian was fabulous – he is quite photogenic.

    Your story about the heat reminded me about my spouse. We moved there in ’03 (from Florida). It (and our second summer) was particularly warm for Alaska with some sunny 80 degree days. On one of those days, spouse came home from work and rather indignantly asked me,”Why don’t you have the air conditioning on?” I replied, “We don’t have air conditioning.” “What???” he stammered. “You bought a house with OUT air conditioning??” (spouse trusted me to buy the house before he arrived, and he was seriously doubting me and him) I turned and smiled at him sweetly and said, “Welcome to Alaska dear. They don’t have air conditioning up here.” We still chuckle about that summer.

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    wearyvoterNo Gravatar says:

    Oh dear. Seriously, do not bathe in lemonade. Set up a sprinkler and run through it, then drink the lemonade.

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    Rob in CaNo Gravatar says:

    HistoryGoddess…I don’t believe they have ever denied buying the materials from Spenard. In fact, Van Flein states Spenard was the supplier.

    The first question: did they get a discount?
    Second question: who provided the labor, and did they give a discount or provide it for free.

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    Fun Fact: Sulphur (sp?) from volcanoes is what gives off those stunning pink/purple/orange sunsets! Learned that during my stint in HI. :-)

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    Karin in CTNo Gravatar says:

    AKM, you are simply the BEST!

    Sweet dreams from CT.

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    mhrtNo Gravatar says:

    AWWW.. and what a handsome guy Brian is ..no wonder Brenda fell for him.
    Sorry about your drink AKM. It only got about 70 here today.

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    the problem childNo Gravatar says:

    80 is nice for me. Just waiting for it go above so i can justify shorts to work (too many weeks of rain and fog (we may have the gulfstream usually reserved for UK on the east coast.) But turn about is fair play, as it sounds like you had the Worst Summer Ever last year.

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    Seagull: THANKS! Will try in the morning! :-)

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    lokiNo Gravatar says:

    first, AKM I really feel your pain – I too am ‘suffering’ the heat!

    next, in regard to the (potential) association of SBS (do NOT dessicrate the good word ‘spenard’) : anyone remember the TV ad of Sarah saying “don”t ask me, ask SBS!”

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    KO hinted that Letterman was gonna have something to say about the waders tonite.

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    10cats4meNo Gravatar says:

    That is such a great picture of Brian. Stay cool up there. Here in DC we are high in the 80′s with 50% humidity. Feels great. We usually have 90′s with 97% humidity.

    Looks like Iquitarod is flying around Alaska on her farewell tour to the populace. I have this feeling that she will be leaving the state and moving South to Texas. They have a lot of great churches for her to talk to and generate fans. She might summer in Alaska and go south in the Winter. She’s quite the secret keeper. Tantalizing us all with tidbits and then just doing what she wants. She is pretty off the wall and reminds me of my recent exsoninlaw who is also a narcissist. My experience with him goes back quite aways. Her responses are very common and predictable. She loves the energy that we give her when we react.

    That bothers me a bit. But keep up tracking her and keep the truth out there. I don’t think Texas is the answer for her, but she will have to find that out herself. Maybe they can hide her in a canyon near TT.

    Stay cool.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Thought Todd mentioned his family’s hardware store as a source for materials ??

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    Photo Op: Brian with the PRESIDENT!! :-)

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    mae lewisNo Gravatar says:

    If the heat made AKM just a little crazy, maybe it’s the heat that fried Sarah’s brain and made her act in the crazed manner. I am waiting for the day that Sarah wakes up, smells the coffee and decides that it was a big mistake. Can she take back the resignation?

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    leenie17No Gravatar says:

    Wow…such a dapper looking fellow Brian is! And I have to believe he was posing for the shot since he knew it would be posted here on the flats to be admired by all of us mudpups.

    So good to see him again in all of his moosie magnificence!

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    She might summer in Alaska and go south in the Winter. She’s quite the secret keeper.

    ========

    Can she do that and still collect PFD for eight household members?

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    tizzielishNo Gravatar says:

    I think the whole Troopergate thing would have faded quickly if Sarah Palin had simply said “I was wrong to allow my husband to pressure state employees to fire my brother-in-law. I apologize to the people of Alaska.” She wouldn’t have gone to jail. She wouldn’t have been impeached. Heck, the legislative inquiry concluded that she violated the law but did not take any action to censure her. If she had just, um, apologized, I think she might have deflated a whole heckuva lot of the public antipathy towards her.

    An apology goes a long way to defusing critics. She seems to have very little sense of basic good behavior. I am reminded of that book, written by a minister, something about how everything I really needed to know, I learned in kindergarden. If Sarah ate the occasional bite of humble pie, I think she might very effectively deflate a lot of the pettier accusations about her.

    “Gee, folks, I did not think about how my being the governor created a different kind of power dynamic between me and my brother-in-law, but now I see that as governor, I need to be more careful than the average citizen to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. I apologize to the citizens of this great state and I promise all of you to do better in the future.” I think she might have defused the whole thing with such a statement. But it’s like she thinks if she admits she might have been imperfect (I don’t even say she has to admit she was wrong, just not as right as she could have been) . . . . . . .

    She is the one who makes mountains out of the molehills. . . not her critics. And she seems to be surrounded by enablers, people who only tell her what she wants to hear.

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    Where are Brenda and the twins?

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    Moose PuckyNo Gravatar says:

    In Juneau, thanks for answering all my questions–whatever thread you are in now.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    42 10cats4me Says:
    I have this feeling that she will be leaving the state and moving South to Texas.
    ************************************************************
    She did spend 5 days in Giddings in Central Texas with the Smith family. Old friends from Wasilla.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Ohhhh, SBS. Sorry!! AustinTX – I believe Todd’s parents hardware store was just mentioned to show that HE HAS CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE!!!!!! What a reach.

    They need to find the delivery driver who stopped and unloaded @ the Sports Complex & then continued to Lake Lucille to finish.

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    HistoryGoddessNo Gravatar says:

    Bea@ 22 Regarding HistoryGoddess @ 15 (Palin House comment from Plumline article)

    Bea- I was hoping that someone here was going to post “already knew about that lien.” That was the second reference to the same thing on the Plumline article comments, but it cited a source. The first one just made a strong reference to this. Weird.

    On a real positive note, Campbell Brown’s show didn’t seem to make even a reference to Palin. (One trip away from the TV to take dogs outside, so if it was done then, it was very, very brief.) Also noticed a marked decrease in the number of Palin stories on the front Politics page on HuffPo. Denying her coverage is NOT what she wants! She still needs to be investigated and reported on, but only people with real facts should be doing it. No more outlets for her talking points!

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    Miss DemeanorNo Gravatar says:

    It is smoky here on the Kenai Peninsula, too.
    The sunrise this morning was sublime, with a huge red-orange orb glowing in the sky, but the dawn sky pre-sunrise was stunning.
    The sky was the color of a juicy ripe salmonberry – you know, the color of salmon that has been grilled to perfection, or the color of the inside of a peach rose.
    Mudpups – come on up to our great state of Alaska and I’ll show you all the wonders of our great state, and cook you a great meal, too.
    Tomorrow the set-netters start putting out their nets here in our portion of the inlet – across from Kalgin Island on the east side of Cook Inlet.
    They are fishing for “reds” – Sockeye Salmon – and occasionally net a King -Chinook Salmon. Silvers, too – Cohoe Salmon – later in the month.
    IMHO, reds make the best smoked and canned salmon – except for Yukon King.
    When I worked in Western Alaska, Dorthy Kameroff, who was the magistrate in Emmonak, would give visitors to her courtroom bags of smoked Yukon King. Talk about food of the gods!
    Mt. Redoubt has not been visible for a few days because of the smoke haze.
    Because it is so hazy, we cannot see the western side of the Inlet, so it is easy to imagine nothing but water forever.
    Hey – an eagle just got one of the rabbits eating my peas!
    Nature at work.
    Have a good night, all.
    Sweet dreams.

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    samperNo Gravatar says:

    tizzie: Good thoughts! Seems so easy to the normal folks, but she would NEVER admit to “less than perfection”. It’s always someone else’s fault/responsibility/whatever.

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    mhrtNo Gravatar says:

    Bea Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 6:52 PM

    You all have probably seen this, but in case anyone else managed a relatively Palin-free day and is just catching up like me also too:

    Key Reason Palin Gave For Quitting May Be False

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/republican-party/key-reason-palin-gave-for-quitting-appears-to-be-false/
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    sarah palin lies again. Good find. thanks

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    short-timerNo Gravatar says:

    It was HOT today. I really hit the ice cream bars like a chocoholic that fell off the ice cream wagon. I don’t have air-conditioning in my house or my car, unless you count rolling down the windows and driving really fast. :)

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    NanNo Gravatar says:

    omg – Margaret & Helen blog. “Once again, she opened up her mouth and a whole lot of stupid fell out.”

    Link to the right —->

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    Wolf PackNo Gravatar says:

    Looks as if Sarah is pulling another fast one. The ethics complaints from the spread sheet indicate a cost of $ 42K.

    She is including the cost of records requests that occurred during the presidential election. Which must have put a severe burden on all departments, including those lawyers’ time.

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    Candy KnightNo Gravatar says:

    Okay, we had a cold front come through today and it finally got down to 85. At night. We all got a good chuckle.

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    samper, you could try the office of the Mayor of Warren (Jim Fouts). He’s been fairly vocal on the subject of the industry.
    mayor@cityofwarren.org

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    BobbyGNo Gravatar says:

    It’s 105F in Vegas. We’re about to change to short sleeve shirts. No sympathy for y’all.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    OH BOY !! Letterman just asked if anyone had naughty thoughts seeing sarah in the waders……..few guys in the band raised hands.
    Then said she looked so good…….that Russia was watching her.
    Then showed a photoshopped picture of Statue of Liberty wearing waders.

    Funny stuff !!

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    DebNo Gravatar says:

    @10cats….I just got back from Texas today. I came back a day early (from visiting my mother) MOSTLY because the ONLY national “news” she gets is faux news. I had to keep pointing out the inconsistencies in faux news reporting to my almost 90 year old mom! (Thank goodness, my mom is reasonably intelligent and saw through SP from the get-go))
    But, I can say from my travels in Texas….they don’t seem to be intellectually curious, which would make them excellent fodder for Scarah.

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    EmpishNo Gravatar says:

    Banging head on keyboard again. Spenard Builders Supply is a red herring! They sell and deliver building supplies. They don’t build houses. No carpenters, no electricians, no plumbers, no framing crews.
    Who built the sports complex? http://www.howdieinc.com/

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    tewiseNo Gravatar says:

    Brian is very stunning and handsome. I see he is getting fit because of all those hobnobbing parties he has been attending lately.

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    Ashkee ColoradoNo Gravatar says:

    It was officially 94 deg here in Denver but I saw 98 on the carmometer this afternoon. I try not to use the car AC but this was exceptional day.

    Glad to see the actual Brian and not the plastic miniature whose been making the party circuit. He looks comfy enough in his woolies.

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    kerryann63No Gravatar says:

    She got slammed on Hardball today. The reporter from salon dot com (sorry, can’t remember her name right now) brought up all the facts we’ve been hoping the MSM would discuss: the real cost of the ethics complaints, the total amount of complaints and just how many she really did “win” and the fact that most of the complaints were taken care of months ago. Really good segment!

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    Forever AnnonymousNo Gravatar says:

    It is really good to see Brian.

    I was researching. Here is that woman on March 20, 09 at the Lincoln dinner, part 11:

    “…..playbook….other politicians have gone through this,
    just maybe not right here in Alaska,
    but other politicians have gone through this
    andit is a playbook that is follow now,
    Why do you think someone would want to forceus financially
    ..(?) just throw up our hands and say
    I can’t take it anymore, I got to go
    …draw your own conclussions
    my conclusion is it is because the Palin/Parnell administration is AFECTING POSITIVE CHANGE AND WE FOUGHT CORRUPTIVE….(?)…AND WE TOOK A STANCE..AND WE ARE GETTING THE JOB DONE… AND SOME PEOPLE DON’T. LIKE. IT.(thunderous applause).”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij4EbHkPqyY

    After securing a book deal, setting up a defense legal fund trust and a mega begathon she is ready to abort, iceberg or not.

    Wild ride……that’s how she rolls.

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    It was 93 here today with humidity, that’s about 100*……….thing is, as soon as the sun goes down the temp starts dropping, right now it’s a balmy 76* outside, with a nice big moon to light up the dark.

    In Alaska, they don’t get the relief of the sun setting…..only a few hours of dark, so I imagine that could get a tad old. I’ve never experienced it. But whoa, am I impressed with how the plants love it, lol. I’ve been marveling over Celtic Diva’s Bleeding Heart plant, just wow. Things grow faster here in MO than they did in CO, earlier spring more moisture and humidity, warmer nights.

    I learned the hard way, if ya got AC in a humid climate ya bess use it or expect mold and mildew.

    Take a cool shower AKM, it does wonders. Do you sleep with black out curtains?

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    DebNo Gravatar says:

    oops….sorry….I forgot to compliment Brian…..He’s “da man!”

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    not that sarahNo Gravatar says:

    Was 107 here with humidity index — working outside for a week. miserable! it’s cooler now…low 90′s.

    whew.

    Having moved all over the country, I can attest that anything you’re not used to is really tough. I don’t think I could take the cold anymore…

    But I hate the humid heat!

    It was great to see Palin’s numbers questioned on FP Politics Page at HuffPo.

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    otrplmNo Gravatar says:

    check out (water tigers) artical about sp on firedoglake.

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    yeah, and go jump in a stream, lol, man oh man, in Colorado high country ya jumped in gasped for breath and jumped out.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Seagull Junker Palin

    Thanks for the clarification. Keeping the story straight is like counting boxcars on a freight train going by at 90 mph.

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    DebNo Gravatar says:

    @kerryann- I saw that…and the “republican mouth” that was supposedly defending palin couldn’t say much except repeating himself. Interesting he was (I had to giggle actually)

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Empish – so it’s not that the materials for the house (windows, glass railings) were lifted from the sports complex – it’s the labor that was provided for free?? Same labor that was used on the sports complex? Tks!

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    I like to get out and weed, water or tend to whatever in the yard at night with a flashlight. I try not to mow past dark, lol.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Ahem…….. Deb – You surely did not visit Austin.

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    North_of_the_RangeNo Gravatar says:

    The weather service site says it cracked 90 today in Fbks, about 2 hours ago. I thought it felt like the hottest day we’ve had all year! I don’t mind, though, even without any a/c. Because only a few months ago it was minus forty. That 130 degree temperature range is a wild and crazy thing.

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    DebNo Gravatar says:

    lol no austin I did not visit austin…just ft worth and the panhandle. no offense…fellow mudpuppy….but, have you travelled texas recently? I was APPALLED at the lack of progressive stations-both radio and television!!

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    lexkyNo Gravatar says:

    im at work and it wont let me get on the live chat at the forum.
    if anything major comes up somebody post it over here.

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    HistoryGoddessNo Gravatar says:

    Empish@ 65
    Sorry if I caused the head upon keyboard attack. I copied a comment (@15) from the Plumline article comments. Since it wasn’t my comment, I didn’t want to break it up. The only thing that seemed “new” to me was the builder lien. I don’t understand that. Maybe it is common for that type of document. I was hoping someone would be able to explain that.

    I did have the impression from posts on Mudflats that SBS was a large building supply outfit. I never had the impression that they actually had their own contractors or builders.

    Again, sorry for any bruising :)

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    Say NO to Palin in Politics Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 7:46 PM
    I like to get out and weed, water or tend to whatever in the yard at night with a flashlight. I try not to mow past dark, lol.
    ____

    Glad to know I’m not the only nutjob “Gardening at Night” (which is the song that always goes thru my head when I do it, being an old REM fan from way back, LOL.)

    Tonight I planted new batchs of dill and arugla, since both of the early crops of those two are now like Sarah Palin– bolting and bitter. ;)

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    I found myself all alone over in the old thread… So I’m re-posting this…

    Did anyone see/post that Shannyn Moore made the paper in a good way today also? Here’s the link – one nasty remark that I’ve rebutted, I may need help here…
    http://www.adn.com/3437/story/858172.html?mi_pluck_action=comment_submitted&qwxq=7812911#Comments_Container

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    jo in AKNo Gravatar says:

    My bees moved out to their front porch in S. Anchorage this afternoon. My flooring guy was sweating so much he said he had to go home. We’re drinking gin and tonics and viewing the smoke over the inlet.

    I’m taking two days off of KO and the rest. I’m Sarah weary.

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    Miss DemeanorNo Gravatar says:

    Bea:
    You be funny!

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    CGNo Gravatar says:

    Bringing it here from the other thread, repost.

    Let’s review some of the more important bits since Sarah was “tapped” for VP.

    Sept 2008, compulsory financial disclosure delayed. She requested and was granted an extension to file after the Biden debate, by the FEC. Because her finances are so complicated and sophisticated.

    Her salary from the State of Alaska at that time (Oct. 3, 2008) – $196,531.50. Not $125,000 as listed in the Alaska Public Offices Commission disclosure.
    http://pfds.opensecrets.org/N99999951_2007.pdf

    Campaign funds. Contrary to what her base wants to believe, she did not spend her own money, McCain’s money, or a bunch of rich people’s money from campaign donations. She spent taxpayer money. YOUR money.
    Here’s why. Because we are a cool awesome American democracy, we have a system in this country that ensures that public office is not just for the wealthy. So our government allows taxpayer money to be granted to candidates to spend on campaigning for our votes. It’s a ‘quid pro quo’ thing; we need to know who they are on election day, it’s in our best interest to help them get out there to introduce themselves. Private campaign contributions ‘match’ the grant. McCain applied for this program, even though he’s a millionaire.
    It was certified by means of signature on personal letters from each of them, to the U.S. Government, formally requesting the money.

    On Friday, September 5, 2008, the Commission approved payment of $84.1 million in federal funds for the general election campaign of John McCain and Sarah Palin.
    That’s right. A check from the U.S. Treasury was drafted for 84 million to pay the McCain/Palin campaign. [...say that out loud in a Dr. Evil voice...]

    Reducing spending so we don’t create debt for our children? Sarah doesn’t like “the Feds”? Something broken in American government? Looks to me like the democratic system worked pretty well for a housewife from Wasilla.

    http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers_public_funding.shtml#limitsHow much money do the participants get?
    During the primaries, eligible candidates receive matching payments
    for the first $250 of each individual contribution the raise, but their
    total receipts of public funds cannot exceed half of the national spending limit for the primary campaign.
    The grants for the major parties’ conventions and general election nominees are adjusted each Presidential election year to account for increases in the cost of living. The major parties are each entitled
    to $4 million (plus cost-of-living adjustments) to finance their
    national Presidential nominating conventions.
    The major party nominees may each be eligible for a public grant
    of $20 million (plus a cost-of-living adjustment) for campaigning
    in the general election.
    In 2008, each major party received $16.3 million in public funds
    for their conventions, and the parties’ general election nominees
    were eligible to receive $84.1 million in public funds.

    The clothes. Yeah, yeah, yeah; some generous wealthy private benefactor gave them a credit card to buy the stuff. Maybe Cindy McCain or some guy from Minnesota…
    Well, from FEC records, it kinda looks like the clothing was charged to the campaign. It’s in the financial filings for audit, isn’t it? The various purchases were line-itemed as expenses.
    If it was all about a private credit card, why on God’s green earth would any of it be listed as campaign expenses for audit? Wouldn’t the private benefactor just give her the swag as a gift and avoid the hassle of scrutiny altogether? I’ve never heard an explanation for that. Anyone? Could we have an official credible explanation from somewhere?
    Just doesn’t make sense…

    “The RNC has already conceded that the funds used to purchase clothing for the candidate, her family and others, were campaign funds.”
    http://www.citizensforethics.org/files/FEC%20Complaint.pdf

    So. Taxpayer money paid for the massages, facials, makeup artist, toys and silk boxers. The private jets, luxury suites, a staff of 20 to help her, babysitters, catered food. The photo shoots, the magazine interviews, amusement for the children, on and on. None of this cost her a penny.

    Schedule F-entries for Jeff Larson are Palin’s clothing.
    http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00003418/373483/sf

    And she continued to draw a state official salary; she didn’t have to go on hiatus and do without a paycheck, like you and I would if we went off to pursue and acting career or get a doctorate. Todd got better sponsorship for snowmachine racing. The girls got national attention. Piper had a great deal of fun. They did nothing for it, except appear in public. Make no mistake – they liked it. It was fun!

    I get it when rockstars, actors and celebrity athletes live the exotic life. But they pay for it. They pay their bills for their fun, from the fruits of their hard work and efforts.
    There simply was no work done here; there was overnight celebrite, someone in attendance with a checkbook. The job was nothing more than public appearances.
    Then the circus came back to Alaska. And it was just going to keep on going with Alaska picking up the tab. Entitlement, like the royal family.
    We arrive at the ethics issues. State government can’t play that way. Whatever magic wands were waved during that campaign, we don’t have ‘em back home in Alaska, and being a public official/state employee is a different game.

    Time to be done.
    Sarah, you’ve reaped enormous benefit for yourself and your family. You and your children have had an amazing unique experience and a heck of a lot of fun. You all have gained opportunity for advancement at many levels that will serve each of you well, that is guarenteed to last long into the future. Be grateful, not sour.
    How you take advantage of that is up to you and Todd, and each of your children, family and friends, individually.

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    If any of you Californians get it into your head to go to this stupid dinner, remember that it’s $150 and it’s to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Republican Hairdressers’ Kaffeeklatsch (or something similar).

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    AKMFanNo Gravatar says:

    On the other open thread, I saw a lot of people asking for the link to the document released that accounts for the 2 million number being thrown around.

    I didn’t make it through all the comments on that thread, but didn’t see it given up to the point I read to.

    On the off chance it wasn’t posted or others missed it due to many pages of comments, here it is:

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/records-costs-attachment-2.pdf

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    EmpishNo Gravatar says:

    Seagull Junker Palin: All SBS did was deliver materials and possibly some boom sets if trusses were purchased from the truss Plant in Big Lake. They do not supply labor. No crews, no etc etc etc.
    And once they deliver the order, its really not up to them to stand around and see it erected. If Howdie “helped” the Palins, how would SBS even know about it?

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    Miss DemeanorNo Gravatar says:

    JO in AK:
    Me too – SP weary, also.

    Isn’t the haze something?
    Did you see the sunrise this morning?
    Are you a beekeeper?
    I was appalled they killed those swarming bees at the baseball game.
    Did you see the Nature special about the bees dying, and hand pollination in China?
    Pretty scary.

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    CRFlatsNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/interior/story/858433.html

    This is the first I’ve heard of visitors to Alaska complaining of the heat. It does point out, though, that we have heat, AND 22+ hr sunshine. Can take a toll. Me, I’m digging it. Though, at some point, our trees and salmon are gonna be hurting if we don’t see some rain.

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    Lest we forget that GINotverymuchlonger is not the only GOP scoundrel:

    Sen. Tom Coburn knew more than a year ago that his Republican colleague John Ensign was having an affair with a staffer – and he reportedly urged Ensign to end the relationship and pay a substantial sum of money to the staffer and her husband.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/24706.html

    Ah, Republican family values.

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    EmpishNo Gravatar says:

    I give up, follow the sbs line of thought if you must. Its been debunked by Corporate and I am tired of trying to point out the real direction people should be looking at.

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    kerryann63No Gravatar says:

    #76 @ Deb Yeah, I was not surprised to hear he was a lawyer. He really tried to spin but Lawrence wouldn’t let him. I’m hoping more MSM outlets will pick up that clip so that the BS ethics lies that GIDO (Love the new name) is spreading will not go much farther.

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Contractors or suppliers frequently file liens on properties under construction or renovation. That way they definitely get paid for their work or supplies.

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    Lori in Los AngelesNo Gravatar says:

    aussie blue sky: I do not think we plan to ATTEND the dinner. We would PROTEST outside. I will post more on forum on Friday. We will need to advertise the protest to get people to come, Craigslist and local media.
    CA mudpuppies of course.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Deb –
    Oh yeah , you were in goofball land up there. Why , Texas Tech U in Lubbock just hired Alberto Gonzales to teach a “special topics” course on contemporary issues in the executive branch. Don’t ask me WTF “special topics” is. That is the University’s quotation marks.

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    DebNo Gravatar says:

    austin- “special topics” must include how to go to the hospital to get very sick man to sign papers that you KNOW might be considered illegal!!

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    @ 90-Empish – I know that SBS is just a supplier not a builder but has it been proven that the Sports Center paid for x amount of windows & or deck railing, but only installed a smaller number? As a contractor I know that materials have a way of walking away from the job & ending up in other places. We’ve had it happen to us on much smaller projects.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Empish – I’m trying – bear with me! So you think the problem is the labor, not the supplies. But so many of the “rumors” talk about the materials being the same in both places. I thought the material was more the problem, not the undocumented labor.

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    otrplmNo Gravatar says:

    you have to check out sp carrying the cross on fdl

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    kerryann63No Gravatar says:

    Oh – sorry for the lack of cold beverage and A/C AKM. Here in Charlotte it’s been in the 90′s for the past week or so, with no rainfall to speak of. Getting a little worried since we just got clear of last year’s drought conditions. Might get some on Thursday but then it’s back up to 94-95 for the weekend. Sometines I wonder why I left Connecticut, then I remember NE winters and I chear right up. Going to finish my sweet tea and then it’s off to bed….night mudpups!

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    austintx Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:05 PM
    Deb -
    Oh yeah , you were in goofball land up there. Why , Texas Tech U in Lubbock just hired Alberto Gonzales to teach a “special topics” course on contemporary issues in the executive branch. Don’t ask me WTF “special topics” is. That is the University’s quotation marks.
    _____

    WTF???? The only course Gonzo should be teaching is “How to Accessorize Your Orange Jumpsuit.” I’d heard he couldn’t get a job anywhere. Wonder if this is a bone being thrown after a little pressure from the Bushes?

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Deb –
    BTW – if you ever come back , surf the low 90′s on the FM dial and you should be able to pick up a NPR station in Texas. Changes a little on the dial depending on where you are. Here , it’s 90.5.

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    Peggy PierceNo Gravatar says:

    Wow … so glad to have company in the “Gardening at Night” club. I thought I was the only one. It’s a lovely time in the garden. If you plant flowers that have white blossoms, or leaves that tend to be silvery at night, they look so lovely! By the way, if, and I hope this does not happen, but if SP moves to Austin, TX (or Ft. Worth) or even if she just does a lot of campaigning there … I can get to her! My daughter lives in Austin, so once or twice a year, I can be there. Just sayin’. Give me the posters, give me the shout-outs. Bring it on.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Empish – no problem to say that SBS was not involved – they were paid for everything they supplied. And I know all about the lien thing – that’s sop for any large construction job – if you want to get paid.

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    PepperzMom (GA)No Gravatar says:

    Samper…

    How’s the Firefox going????

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Bea -
    I know , it’s nuckin’ futs. google his name and Texas Tech.

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    DebNo Gravatar says:

    austin- I drove from colorado to the panhandle through dumas (yes, I spelled that correctly)….and then on to ft worth…I scanned both fm and am channels….nada…. nothing (rush was there….well actually rush was on vacation but a reasonable facsimile was there) I pretty much got country western music or gospel channels til just outside ft worth. (btw austin…i was born and raised in texas..just can’t stomach most of it any more)

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    I’m listening to this amazing young Afghani politician on the radio. I’ve heard her speak before; she’s been in Australia for a few weeks. Her main criticism is that when parliament was restored in Afghanistan, the seats were given (by the Americans) to the all the criminal war lords and drug barons (who promptly passed laws pardoning all their own crimes). She criticized them on a TV interview in 2007 and they suspended her from parliament. She is still suspended.

    Now I’m going to request that my library buy her book (just out).

    (Trade paperback / Macmillan / ISBN:9781405039130)
    Raising My Voice by Malalai Joya
    Malalai Joya has been described as the bravest woman in the world. As a teenager she worked as a woman’s rights activist under the Taliban, running underground classes and clinics in her native Afghanistan that would have resulted in her torture and execution if she’d been caught. After the fall of the Taliban, Malalai was elected as one of the few women to represent her province at the first assembly to frame a new Afghan constitution.

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    PepperzMom (GA)No Gravatar says:

    new thread up…re: the millions

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    OK, must go to bed.

    I’ll leave you with a funny bumper sticker idea seen on DU earlier tonight:

    PALIN 2012
    She’s pretty darn sure she wants to be President.

    A few other funnies also too in the thread:

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×8515644

    Nite!!

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    otrplmNo Gravatar says:

    click on the come after me link on watertigers post

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    HistoryGoddessNo Gravatar says:

    Jackie Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 8:04 PM

    Contractors or suppliers frequently file liens on properties under construction or renovation. That way they definitely get paid for their work or supplies.
    ________
    Thank you for explaining this, Jackie. Makes sense. Now if I could figure out why “builders supply” doesn’t rate an apostrophe since “builders” is possessive. :)

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Empish – did we lose you? Maybe another time, but thanks for the food for thought.

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    curiouserNo Gravatar says:

    AKM, Brian is one handsome dude! He always makes me smile.

    Comments are crrrazy today. No way can I keep up with all of you. How in the world did JHop prepare the letter to the ADN and comment on the blog. And then there are all the outside references to read.

    @Seagull….I posted a thank you on the other open thread for your response that Palin chose to get a personal attorney. Thanks again!

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    Martha Unalaska Yard SignNo Gravatar says:

    @ Aussie Bly Sky – previous open thread

    “Madame Surrender Monkey” made my day!

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    @115 History Goddess – it’s plural – multiple builders…. More like Builders Supplies with Spenard being an adjective….

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    Years ago when I was living in Tucson and working summers in AK it was always hard at first b/c I would be acclimated to 90°+ by the time I headed up there, to Bristol Bay’s damp 45°-55° days, and sunshine that was all light and no heat! lol

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    SueNo Gravatar says:

    @Empish–I hear what you are saying. I’m not in AK, but I hope someone there is looking into the labor aspect of it, too. The “Todd and his buddies built it” line is obviously a lie; they don’t have the equipment or the skills. So…why are they lying? Maybe to cover up something illegal.

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    We’ve been wintering in AZ – Nov to mid-May when it was 105 – I swear 80′s in Ak are equal to mid to upper 90′s in AZ. Plus we have no AC here… other than that portable job in the bedroom which doesn’t work as good as the cental kind.

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    HistoryGoddessNo Gravatar says:

    Jackie @120 Wouldn’t it be “Builders’ supply” since it seems more like a plural possessive? I know apostrophes can look awkward. I spent way too much time in a Warriner’s Grammar book years ago. Can’t say it did me much good, but I can diagram the hell out of anything. Well, not Palin’s spew, but I did see a website several months ago that did try to diagram part of one of her speeches. It wasn’t pretty.

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    History Goddess – you’re probably right – In the phone book they are listed as Spenard Builders Supply – so my mistake in the supplies…

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    WakeUpAmericaNo Gravatar says:

    Well, AKM, as I posted at Celtic Diva’s site, you two are sissy pants, warm weather weenies, if you will. I live where you can actually fry eggs on the driveway in summer. We are so grateful that it has cooled down considerably to 100F. It is supposed to be 67 tonight. Yippee!! It is often over 100f at 2 am. I thought Alaskans were tough! Okay, okay, I would just curl up and die if it got to minus degree weather here in winter, so I guess we’re even.

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Wake up America – It’s that lack of central ac here. We usually only need it a few times in the summer but after staying in Az during the warm season I’m thinking if we build another house here it’ll have central ac! It sucks when you can’t find a cool spot… And for the minus degree weather for the most part we try to stay indoors where it’s warm altho that gets pretty sucky too which is why we’ve been wintering in AZ…

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    Jackie

    Yes, I agree – our low humidity is much easier to deal with. What those of you who spend winters here miss is the monsoon – which we’re into right now. From late June/early July to mid-September we get a flow of moist air from the Gulf of Mexico. The humidity goes up, and we get very energetic thunderstorms. This is our primary rainy season. The rains come afternoon/evening, and we get 90-100% rel humidity, which isn’t bad until the sun hits the wet ground in the morning. Being outside means being just drippy all day. Right now, with my evaporative cooling, I have 73° and 85% RH. Quite confortable w/ a ceiling fan on, but it would be 7 or 8 degrees warmer and the RH would be higher if I’d gotten rain today. The desert really goes wild when the rains come – frogs everywhere, male lizards are sporting their bright mating-season markings, and everything greens up and loses it’s stressed-out look. It’s a very different place from what you see in wintertime.

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    EdieNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t know if anyone has seen this….if repost, please ignore

    Lowen characterized psychopaths as seeing life in black and white, with their internal motto being “kill or be killed.” They see the world as attacking them, so they meet life in an aggressive manner, always fighting for what they believe is “right.” ………..

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mining-the-headlines/200809/sarah-psychopath

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    GasmanNo Gravatar says:

    AKM,
    You are allowed your gripes about the “hot” weather in AK. My Canadian wife became sissyfied regarding winters after living in TX for 14 years. We now live in the high desert in NM and know a thing or two about “dry” heat. The Dallas, TX area was oppressive once the temp. hit 80 due to the humidity. Here in the mountains of NM, 85 degrees in the shade is bliss. However, due to the altitude, the direct sun will rip off your hide by about 80 degrees. Weather really is relative to one’s locale.

    I used to think that TX and/or NM politics the worst possible, then I became acquainted with Palin, your site and that of Ms. Shannyn’s. Like the weather, political weirdness is also relative.

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup – we were there til May 20th this year & I think they said they had record rains for that time of year – that lightning stuff scares the heck out of me! One of these years we’ll spend some summer time there but for now we have to go back & forth. Which is good too cuz this way I get to see my kids more.

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    Miss Demeanor……I would love to come visit you and Alaska. I will put that on my must do list before I am outta here. It must be amazing. I’m very intrigued by the plant growth.

    So, what is happening with the forest fires? How is it handled in AK?

    I have a volunteer fire fighter friend back in CO who goes all over the country, hopefully I will see him in a few weeks at a blue grass festival, I’ll be sure to ask about AK.

    In CO. we had a rouge forest fire come within 1/4 mile of our house at the base of the foothills, with big wind gusts, thank goodness the wind switched direction taking it north, whew, and you betchya I was seriously talkin to it as I was loading stuff into the car by myself at night and saw fire glowing up into the sky just over the hill. Kinda dramatic if you are by yourself, so ya talk to the elements.

    So what is the take on forest fires in AK? Do you have beetle kill? drought? Ice storms? here in MO the underbrush can be a fire hazard when things get hot and dry, July-Aug. just curious……guess I could google, lol.

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    WakeUpAmericaNo Gravatar says:

    Most of us don’t have AC here, believe it or not. We have swamp coolers, but they don’t work when it is humid. Luckily, we only get the humid weather for about two weeks in summer. Of course, we all have AC in our cars or we would just burn up when we got into our cars after they are parked for a long time like maybe five minutes. So I’m guessing that AC isn’t a priority in cars in Alaska.

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    Nan (aka roswellborn)No Gravatar says:

    Sourdough Mullet (16)

    The “Pity Party” – I love it!
    …Maybe all those “gullible-to-the-death” folks can all go together to Roswell, NM and wait for their friends to come back in the big spaceships. I know that I know that I know that God has ordained it for them.
    ________________

    Um, could we talk about that for a minute before shipping anyone off to Roswell?

    Nan ;-)

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Oh yes AC in cars is a priority! Just most houses don’t have it nor swamp coolers… The malls & stores do have AC tho.

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    CGNo Gravatar says:

    Sarah’s New York trip before resigning ~

    Governor Palin Helps Raise $1.2 Million For Autism
    Monday, June 08, 2009
    “The estimated 12,000 people who converged on the campus to walk for autism awareness also heard from Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the former GOP vice presidential candidate who attended the event with her sister and nephew, who has autism.
    The event was organized by the Westchester-Fairfield chapter of Autism Speaks. So far just over $400,000 in donations has been recorded but the group expects to raise $1.2 million. The final amount will not be known until the end of the month.
    ~~
    Palin spoke briefly on the main stage and urged attendees to support the Combating Autism Act, which was passed in 2006 and authorizes millions in expenditures to combat the illness. She then shook hands and took pictures with officers from the Harrison Police Department in Reid Hall.”

    But no fundraising appearances for Alaska autism resources so far, that I know of. This organization is a national organization. They stage fundraising walks all over the country, but not in Alaska. Their website, Autism Speaks, includes Alaska, but doesn’t show an active organization.
    So why New York? Why not Kenai? Wasilla?
    Reported on the blog, governorpalin4president.

    MANORVILLE, N.Y., June 1 /PRNewswire/ — Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, named “2009 Honoree” by the Independent Group Home Living Foundation (IGHL; http://www.ighl.org), will be coming to the dinner and accepting the award at the IGHL 30th anniversary gala on Sunday, June 7th at Flowerfields in St. James.
    This is the Alaska Governor’s first appearance on Long Island.
    The award will be presented at the organization’s 30th anniversary of service which will be celebrated at its annual fundraising gala to be held on June 7, 2009 on Long Island. The high-profile gala will be attended by parents and family members, as well as by federal, state and local government officials and leaders of corporations
    “The annual event is one of the largest affairs on Long Island,” stated IGHL’s Stockton.

    Ah, okay. Her first “appearance” on Long Island. Not fundraising for autism. Accepting an award for her advocacy in support of people in group homes. From a New York foundation. Sure, why not?

    Then Washington D.C. for a dinner, then a week in Texas doing something.
    Home, Kosovo, resignation.

    When she addressed the troops in Kosovo, saying to soldiers from other states that she would be “very happy to work with your governors too”, she must have meant as the President.

    And what happened with our Alaska troops stuck without return tickets home and the money that she asked us to donate to get tickets for them?

    10:05 PM Jun 28th – I may get nowhere w/DoD efforts to fully fund troops’ rtn trips so pls join charity drive to raise $ for flights. Nonsense troops must pay!

    9:57 PM Jun 28th – In Anch. I’ll cont to work on Dept of Defense to fund soldiers’ trip home. Unacceptable to hear AK troops’ flts aren’t fully covered by DoD

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    Jackie

    Yeah, that is good. This May early on we also had record heat (100+) for a couple weeks – did you get caught here in that?

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    karen in orNo Gravatar says:

    Regarding the short change for the icy coffee drink….

    Too bad you couldn’t simply explain that you don’t carry a wallet. You know, the way Sarah reportedly explained it to the barrista when asked to pay for her 3 coffees at the coffee shop in Juneau.

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    CG Says:
    And what happened with our Alaska troops stuck without return tickets home and the money that she asked us to donate to get tickets for them?

    ____________

    So we either take from this that she was not planning on quitting or she was lying to the troops.

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    jc in coNo Gravatar says:

    #132 WHere are you in CO? I’m in Manitou, west of CO Springs, commonly known as the bible belt of the rockies, cradle of intolerance, home of both pastor ted & dr.dobson. Manitou is the evil step sister, arty fartsy, liberal
    community that probably voted 85% for Obama, it’s nice & pretty ….

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    Palin reaction: ‘Big girls don’t quit’

    http://alaskadispatch.com/palin-watch/1277-palin-reaction-big-girls-dont-quit

    :)

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    mlaiuppaNo Gravatar says:

    Aw. Brian is such a handsome guy. I can see what Brenda sees in him. Very handsome. Distinguished.

    BTW came across this photoshop today. LOL!

    http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k69/watertiger/ThePassionofthePalin.jpg

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup – yes – & we liked it except for the fact that we’d bought a house to renovate & rent out & we waited to do the yardwork til May… That was a mistake that I’m hoping we don’t do again!

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    AlaskaGuyNo Gravatar says:

    Hmmm. Down here on the Peninsula they only take cash and plastic, no checks.

    It’s also hot and muggy. And we have our own fires too.

    Try a cold beer.

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    mlaiuppaNo Gravatar says:

    Jack in the Box takes ATM cards.

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    Sourdough MulletNo Gravatar says:

    OK, I’ll admit it. We’re total wimps up here in Alaska. It’s 80 degrees and that kind of heat does, indeed make us all wither up here, much like little Buttercups who just can’t take the heat. ;-)
    So I was outside this evening and heard music – the ice cream truck was winding down the street, playing…. wait for it… a medley of Christmas songs!
    It made me feel about 110 degrees cooler almost immediately!

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    AKM – My husband & I’ve worn all those different hats for years in our business – there have been a lot of days where I told him to please fire me!

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    SameOldNo Gravatar says:

    All this weather talk reminded me of living in Savannah as a young child in pre-AC days. We used to bring the fans out on the back porch, strip down to undies, cover with wet towels, and sleep in front of the fans. Even the dogs got wet.

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    BigSlickNo Gravatar says:

    The TwitterQuitter just posted this gem to all 90,000 tweeterpeeps that follow her…..quite a bit of free advertising for Cour D’Alene Mining if you ask me!

    AKGovSarahPalinAnd here’s Coeur’s press release on the Supreme Courts ruling @ http://tinyurl.com/ncbj8o about 1 hour ago from web

    BigSlick674@AKGovSarahPalin why are you forwarding the Press Release of a commercial mining company? less than 5 seconds ago from web in reply to AKGovSarahPalin

    I couldn’t help myself — why does she find it necessary to announce something like this outside of normal government communication channels????? DUH?????

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    lovemydogsNo Gravatar says:

    BigSlick: She just never stops does she? Maybe she will advertise for my business. Well-probably not-I am not into raping and pillaging my state or planet.

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    Lee323No Gravatar says:

    129 Edie Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 9:04 PM
    ——————————–
    We must have seen the same reference because I just posted about this on the other thread.

    Interesting how this article written last September has proven so accurate in analysis, eh?

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    JHopNo Gravatar says:

    big slick – i wanted to say thank you for posting that comment about grimes really being grimes-pantages. i ran with your comment and found about every link of the web even mildly related to her and her husband. and i think it is the “scariest” part of my letter, even more so than saying anything about defamation. so thank you.

    everyone – thank you so much for helping me edit it. your suggestions and constructive criticism meant a lot to me and they made the finished product a lot stronger. i really appreciate it all.

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    lexkyNo Gravatar says:

    gryph at immoral minority said dennis zaki revealed the iceberg story….
    did i miss something?

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    JHopNo Gravatar says:

    lexky –

    i dont think so, or i missed it too.

    it still says: Big dirty scandal about to hit the Palin universe
    Evidenced by Palin’s abrupt announcement that she’s quitting the State of Alaska without explanation. If it smells like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck. It’s a duck. Stay tuned…

    and also:

    We’re taking a working vacation to Bristol Bay and Kodiak until July 22nd. We should be able to start posting some pictures and video around July 18th when we get back into internet range. See you then. DZ

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    Moose Pucky–you’re welcome. I’m here now, though heading to bed soon. Got the haze there too, huh? I think that’s what we’ve got, and it’s miserable and hot and humid (and I had a game tonight so am miserable from that…). What a weekend/week it’s been though!

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Lexky, Gryphen did a post June 25th I think – in it he said that 3 more ethics complaints were coming & that an IRS investigation was the iceberg – didn’t elaborate on any of it tho…

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    OK, for those of you having no sympathy for the Alaskans suffering in the heat, I would like to point out that for the past week+, we have had temperatures that are 20 degrees higher than our normal temps for this time of year (at least in my town). SO, please cut us some slack! I, for one, did not move home to Alaska for this kind of weather. I LIKE living in a rainforest; I really do, and I don’t do well in hot, humid weather, like many other Alaskans. Plus much of the state is currently under a smoke haze from the ~50+ forest fires that are still burning, so that’s not fun either.

    Over a half million acres have already burned so far this year, and if this weather keeps up all over the state, we’ll have lots more acres burned. Even towns here in the rainforest have had bans on open burning this week, and that almost never happens…

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    BigSlickNo Gravatar says:

    JHOP, can you PM me over at the Forum so I can see the letter?

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    JHopNo Gravatar says:

    “I will say this again, the real story is about an investigation that could have destroyed Palin’s career, and the rumor has been that it is the IRS. But once again THAT is the “rumor”.”

    From the immoral minority….

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    JHopNo Gravatar says:

    oh big slick – please read. you had a huge role in the finished product.

    i have no idea how to PM you. today is the day i lost my forum virginity. it is the “sarah palin” header, under:

    Re: Joann Grimes, Have you Heard the Rumor about Shannyn Moore?

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    JHopNo Gravatar says:

    it is linked to in “open thread” on one of the pages near the end.

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    BigSlickNo Gravatar says:

    InJuneau,

    I feel for you. In my travels this year, I have noticed several changes everywhere I go.

    1) Volatile temp swings , especially when clouds roll in temps drop rapidly and more noticeably because the clear skies are much hotter than usual

    2) cloudy weather is more humid than usual

    3) Less drizzle, more hard driving rain

    4) more hail stones

    5) more electrical storms

    6) more violent winds and funnel clouds

    The small percentage increase in moisture introduced into our atmosphere brings with it more kinetic energy in our localized weather

    Everywhere, at all levels.

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    JHopNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,7570.msg74491.html#msg74491

    big slick – that is the link. i haven’t mastered PM yet. and by “mastered,” i mean i have no idea how to do it.

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    BigSlick–wow, those are some serious changes! I haven’t noticed so much, but then again that’s because I’ve decided I don’t like traveling so stay at home! I think there have actually been some lightening strikes in SE Alaska though, which is rare.

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    I was just reading Andrew Halcro’s blog and he has a new post up talking about the confidentiality of ethic’s complaints. He is of the opinion that they should be kept confidential and thinks that the ruling that took place in 1998 (by the way it was a unanimous vote which PARNELL voted on) that removed the wording that made it a misdemeanor to publicize the complaints.

    In 1998, the Alaska State Legislature passed SB105 which changed the way ethics complaints were handled by the Executive Branch. During committee testimony, former State Senator Drue Pearce testified that the overhaul was needed because of stories about how ethics complaints were being buried by the Executive Branch.

    One of the changes eliminated the Attorney Generals office from punishing those who filed complaints and proceeded to advertise the complaint and the contents publicly even though probable cause hadn’t been determined.

    Department of Law officials testified during the bill’s many hearings that there was no proof that complaints were being buried and warned lawmakers that the changes would have consequences.

    Ignoring the warnings, lawmakers amended the law to eliminate the only tool the AG’s office had to demand confidentiality.

    “The attorney general and all persons contacted during the course of an investigation shall maintain confidentiality regarding the existence of the investigation. [A PERSON WHO VIOLATES THIS SECTION IS GUILTY OF A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR.]”

    (Brackets indicate existing law that was removed by lawmakers.)

    So in taking away the only provision the AG’s office had to try and protect confidentiality, lawmakers created the loophole that has allowed complainants to file complaints and then publicly advertise them.

    The vote to pass SB105 which created the loophole, included a familar name.

    HCS CSSB 105(FIN) am H
    Shall the Senate concur in the House
    amendments to CSSB 105(FIN) am?
    Effective Date

    YEAS: 20 NAYS: 0 EXCUSED: 0 ABSENT: 0

    Yeas: Adams, Donley, Duncan, Ellis, Green, Halford, Hoffman,Kelly, Leman, Lincoln, Mackie, Miller, Parnell, Pearce, Phillips,Sharp, Taylor, Torgerson, Ward, Wilken

    Time to fix a bad decision.

    http://www.andrewhalcro.com/thursday_morning_comment_frivolity

    I have to disagree. I think that there is a very real possibility that the reasoning behind the idea was sound. When you have a personnel board who are appointed by the Governor (regardless of which one), and their jobs are to investigate the Governor, whether or not they rely on outside help from attorney’s, then you have a conflict of interest in my opinion.

    Perhaps there is a better way to handle ethics complaints, but having them remain confidential is wrong and can easily lead to problems.

    On another note, I was thinking about this earlier, but I also have an issue with the idea that an ethics complaint can be deal brokered away like was done with the Palin’s children’s travel was. Now I know that Sarah claims there was no “wrongdoing” but even Petumenos stated that “Palin agreed to not contest certain charges and he agreed not to file a formal accusation or take the case to a hearing”. Something like that proves, to me anyhow, that Palin got caught and Petumenos allowed her to slide. It is also interesting to note that this Petumenos was part of the law firm that had dealings with the state/represented the state in the Wasilla Sport Complex. (one of the people here posted about this, but I cannot find the post now) This same attorney is the one who “investigated” the Troopergate issue on behalf of the personnel board. That relationship appears just a little too cozy for me to view as independent and fair.

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    OK, so we actually have 70+ fires burning across the state now…

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    AND I keep having to water my plants! WTH is up with that?

    (okay, I’ll stop complaining and go to bed now…)

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    Palin inspires Americans to quit jobs

    Inspired by Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who on Friday announced her surprise resignation, thousands of Americans are now quitting their jobs, telling their bosses they’ve had enough with mean co-workers, long hours, or whatever else comes to mind.

    “I’m with Sarah — take this job and shove it!” said Phil Davis, a 24-year-old burger-flipper at a McDonald’s in Long Beach, Calif.

    On Friday, Palin announced she was resigning, in part because she was tired of bloggers and reporters picking on her, and because she had other things she wanted to do. Mostly, though, it sounded like Palin was sick of her job.

    “Who can blame her?” said Wendy Phillips, a 46-year-old nurse in Baltimore. “I’m tired of my job, too. I hate my co-workers and I’m sick of whiny patients always complaining about their problems.”

    According to unscientific surveys over the past three days, Palin has prompted Americans coast to coast to reconsider their definitions of work and duty. Quitting is no longer a dirty word.

    http://alaskadispatch.com/palin-watch/1276-palin-inspires-americans-to-quit-their-jobs

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    ShawninPHXNo Gravatar says:

    80 degrees! Let’s do a timeshare swap lol! Here in good ‘ol Phoenix we ‘only’ hit 110 today and it looks like we’ll be up to 116 by the weekend. Enjoy it while it lasts!! As a native Minnesotan I remember the good old days of -30 at night during the winters and the beautiful 80 degree summer days.

    Kidding aside, I can relate. I have to remind myself, during the winter months, how ridiculous I am when I throw on my winter coat and sweater because it’s so cold here (cold being 60 degrees). I guess it’s all a matter of what your body gets used to.

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    BrettaNo Gravatar says:

    SP gets per diem for going fishing… because The Guv performed a ceremonial bill signing in Kotzebue.
    http://community.adn.com/node/142220
    Oh, did I imply something wrong?
    I meant Buttercup efficiently combined business with pleasure, i.e., politics as usual.

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    JHop – I just wanted to say what a great letter! I am still a Forum virgin & couldn’t figure out how to post over there… I’m sure I’d figure it out but it was easier to come back here.

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    lovemydogsNo Gravatar says:

    Wonder how many of the dollars on that bogus “spreadsheet” went to Petumenos?

    By the way JHop-good job.

    I still am in awe of your ability to do all of this and get anything else done (including sleeping).

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Eye on You – I agree with you – If all of these complaints were confidential, citizens would never know what was going on and if issues were resolved or not. Although I have to say I’m not happy with a lot of the resolutions or the little info we get on them. I have a hard time believing that only 10 out of 72 kid travels were determined to be personal for Palin.

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    BrettaNo Gravatar says:

    “Nah, only dead fish go with the flow.”

    That’s after the few days of going against the flow to spawn and die.

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    EyeOnYou Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 11:47 PM
    I was just reading Andrew Halcro’s blog and he has a new post up talking about the confidentiality of ethic’s complaints. He is of the opinion that they should be kept confidential and thinks that the ruling that took place in 1998 (by the way it was a unanimous vote which PARNELL voted on) that removed the wording that made it a misdemeanor to publicize the complaints.
    —————————————————–
    When I read that post, straight away I knew he would never get my vote for anything. How dare he use that word “frivolity”? Andrew Halcro is obviously not aware of anything much if he honestly believes all those ethics complaints to be “frivilous” (as Sarah spells it). If that’s the kind of ethical behaviour one could expect of Andrew Halcro as governor – then he can just stick to renting out cars.

    The truth is probably that Andrew Halcro doesn’t know much about the complaints and is just going on the outcomes. Fail!

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    Jackie Says:
    I have a hard time believing that only 10 out of 72 kid travels were determined to be personal for Palin.

    _________

    I agree and if I recall correctly it was said somewhere that they actually stopped looking back at all of them. The excuse given was this whole issue was not clear regarding the children’s travel, which is why they allowed Palin to not only claim no wrongdoing, but also stated for the record that the issue was not clear and therefore Palin was doing the magnanimous thing and paying for anything that in the future might be considered “unacceptable” once it was all clarified.

    In other words, they allowed her to say whatever she wanted, and my guess is that because it was T. Petumenos who was the “independent” investigator who dealt with all this. After all he also found her not guilty in the Troopergate investigation.

    Total BS!

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    Quitting cost Palin hope for high office

    But the “why” of why she left may be as simple as this: She couldn’t take it anymore. The scrutiny, the criticism, the mockery, and yes, the hard work of being governor. Palin’s thin skin is legendary. She never ignores a slight. For most of the last year, she has been feuding with the Alaska media and many of the state’s political leaders.

    http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/carey/story/858429.html?pageNum=1&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

    I’m so disappointed that Michael Carey’s radio spot on kska isn’t on mp3.

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    JHopNo Gravatar says:

    My brain is fried, team. I am going to pass out for a few hours.

    I have a lot to say about the proposed changes to the ethics complaint statute. Specifically, that is a terrible idea. That is not to say it shouldn’t be reformed; it needs to be. But not by deterring legitimate complaints, in fear that a small mistake or an intentional leak (i.e. by a disgruntled board member, the governor, or any other corrupt politician in Alaska – no offense, there are quite a few) will lead to a criminal record. Instead, I think there should be monetary sanctions imposed for filing clearly frivolous complaints. In any court of law, when you file a complaint, it is a public document (unless it is a uniquely sensitive matter, like rape). Why should allegations against public officials be any different? If anything, those are the complaints that should be made public. And if the complaint is dismissed, the public official can send out a gloating press release like Palin does every Monday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday.

    I will read and analyze tomorrow. And by “tomorrow,” I mean in about 5 hours. I am seeing like 4 of everything.

    Thank you so much for everyone’s help today – it is beyond appreciated.

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    twain12No Gravatar says:

    good article:)
    “The poison of celebrity
    While the ersatz mourning for Michael Jackson was merely annoying, the fame of lightweight Sarah Palin is dangerous”
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2009/07/09/jackson_palin/

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    PaulaNo Gravatar says:

    That’s so funny. When it’s 80 her in the summer we’re having a cool day! We’ve had some real smokers lately! All what you get used to I guess!

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    264 CrayonsNo Gravatar says:

    I don’t blame the business for not taking credit cards – their tired of paying those fees! Our local Waffle House takes cash ONLY! We stopped using ccs a couple years ago and have forced our selves to live on cash at hand instead of spending beyond our means. Lesson learned and we’re still paying off a few of the cards, but it’s a great relief. I highly recommend it – banks have become nothing but thugs with their interests rates and fees. ;)

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    ahaNo Gravatar says:

    Poster 170: I agree with you. How can an ethics complaint be brokered away with or without the consent of the complainant? If it can be done with one then it can be done with all of them. A finding of none other than ”not guilty” should be publicly disclosed in fairness to all. Okay, if they don’t want to penalize but to simply sweep it under the rug sows distrust amongst the public.

    What’s up with First Dud? A poster on another site brought up the fact (it’s not a rumour, either Van Flein) that we’ve seen little to none genuine displays of affection between the Palins. Todd is always standing around like a prop as are the kids.
    Wonder if he and Greta got busy in the Burger King bathroom?

    What a shining example of frigidity.

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    the norwegian blueNo Gravatar says:

    another good Slate article on the psychology of SP’s grievance mentality:
    http://www.slate.com/id/2222523/

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    Misfit in TexasNo Gravatar says:

    OMG! I woke up this morning to the local news telling me that SHE is coming here to campaign for Gov Perry….. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Worse than having to hear/see her in my local news every day is the DREAD I feel, knowing how her campaigning goes….VENOM, LIES and HATE… We have enough wacko’s here wanting a Republic of Texas without her here to egg them on and rile them up.

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    the problem childNo Gravatar says:

    Hilarity! Four pages of hilarity! Seriously! Hilarity!

    http://trueslant.com/jeffhoard/2009/07/08/100-reasons-well-miss-sarah-palin/

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    LilybartNo Gravatar says:

    Misfit: I feel for you but the more she is exposed the better. Her rallies will attract the worst kinds of racists and America will see who she really is and who her base is.

    And these people will have wonderfully misspelled signs with racist slogans that America will also see.

    What are the chances that she will inspire with positive messages of unity?

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    pennyNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting reading…

    From the Runners World interview,
    http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-410–13221-0,00.html:

    “What did your parents teach you about running?
    They taught me self-discipline and goal setting. The self-discipline it took for my dad to train for and qualify for Boston, eating healthy and getting up in those Alaskan morning conditions where it would be 20 below. To see that example of what it takes to accomplish a goal, the determination it took, taught me so much. He used to tell us to call on the rock during a race when we were hurting and we were tired and wanted to quit. He always told us to articulate what it is we’ve trained for, what it is we’re prepared for, and hold onto it when it hurts so bad in a race. We all have a different rock, but Dad inspired us with the knowledge that we could reach down deep and get strength from it. And that’s not just a lesson when you’re out there dying on the 23rd mile of a marathon but one for getting through daily life. Sometimes you’ve got to call upon your rock to get through the tough times.
    And so what’s your rock?
    First and foremost, like my Mom’s inspiration has always been, I have my faith in God. Then I have all the preparation, so I know I can get through it. It’s kind of like I’ve been there before and the best part of the rock I can call upon is the preparation that allows me to know that I can get through it. Looking back, I’m really thankful for all my less-than-pleasant running experiences because I learned through each one, and I can put it all to good use being the CEO of a state full of diverse views and personalities and issues.
    Was there ever a period when you didn’t run?
    Only when I was too pregnant to run. During each of my five pregnancies I worked out until right before the babies were born. A few summers ago I trained hard and ran a sub-4 hour marathon [2005 Humpy's Marathon in Anchorage]. That was a pretty intense summer of running. There have been other periods where I haven’t had the time to get out there and run as hard, so it’s waned on and off over the years.

    What has running taught you about politics?
    Same thing it’s taught me about life: You have to have determination and set goals, and you don’t complain when something’s hurting because no one wants to hear it. You get bummed and burned out sometimes in running and in politics, but if you’re in for the long haul and you’re in it because you know that it is a good thing, then you get out there and you do it anyway.
    I have a really bum ankle from a high school basketball injury. It still swells and gives me some grief, and the older I get, the worse it feels. I don’t know if I attribute it to age or having five kids. That takes a little bit of a toll on one’s body, too.
    Have you kept running through your pregnancies?
    Um-huh, I do. But like with this last one with Trig, I was pregnant with him in the wintertime, so I didn’t run as much. But I still went to the gym and did the elliptical and lifted and did a couple different classes. With each of the kids, I worked out until they were born.

    How long after giving birth before you’re running again?
    It wasn’t like the very next week, it would be weeks. With Trig, it was relatively soon because I felt so good throughout the pregnancy and so great recovering, it was just a couple of weeks later and I was running again.”

    From photographer, Brian Adam’s Flickr page,
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianadams/3674575800/:

    “This was my second time having a portrait session with the Governor and both times she was a pleasure to photograph. The first time I photographed her it was in Juneau, AK.

    The best part was before the shoot Todd Palin called me asking me how long it would take to photograph her? I said I would be happy with 45 min. They ended up giving me three hours. It was very nice of them considering they were headed off to NY that night.”

    Anybody have photos from the Juneau shoot?

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    womanwithsardinecanNo Gravatar says:

    My interest in SBS is not whether they did the work, which they don’t do, but whether the supplies for the Palin house came at an extreme discount or free, in the form of a few “extra” windows and railings being delivered to the sports complex just down the road. It has always been my understanding that this was about the supplies from SBS. Of course there is the other question about who the “buddies” were, and why they had so much time on their hands to help build the house. Were they working on somebody else’s clock? Did that somebody else get benefit from helping the gov?
    I gave up many months ago following this line due to the habit of the Palins to cover all of their paperwork tracks. With the changing of the building permit law, the private email accounts, the altering of state travel records after the fact, the obsfucation on disclosure forms, the Palins have shown a pattern of covering tracks. So unless they missed something, or somebody rats them out, or there is an IRS component that they didn’t anticipate and cover for, then this is just another thing they will get away with (yes, I do believe they cut corners, got free stuff, etc because it is their pattern). I still think IRS is their weak link, whether concerning housegate or the so-called embezzlement, or something else, because Sarah has already overlooked IRS issues in the past. This is when we should take a moment to give thanks to the complexity of our federal tax system instead of bemoaning it. Given that tax accountants have trouble with it, ol’ Sarah dimbulb doesn’t really have a chance in that area. Thus, I’m putting my money on the IRS.

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    TwoBlueJaysNo Gravatar says:

    Just caught this post on DailyKos:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/7/751033/-Palin,-please-dont-let-it-be-this...

    This is very interesting take on GovRapture’s recent comments.

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    Lilybart Says:
    What are the chances that she will inspire with positive messages of unity?

    :D

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    Misfit in TexasNo Gravatar says:

    LILYBART, She does inspire unity; she unites all the wackos,, racists, hate mongers and such. Inspiration of her kind is something we can ALL do without..

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    kejiaNo Gravatar says:

    Thank you for reminding me (here in N.C. on a cool summer day with a high of 86 degrees) that heat is relative. I do have fun when I go to Seattle in August and there is a heat wave. While our friends melt, I cruelly mention how much I’m enjoying the “cool” weather. Of course if the heat wave fails to materialize, I’m the one who is suffering. I’ve learned to pack sweaters and wool socks for my summer vacation, because the shock of going from 95 degrees to 65 degrees is too hard on my perpetually cold feet.

    I hope the lemonade hit the spot. Down here, where cold drinks are a necessity in the summer, restaurants have small pitchers of sugar syrup to sweeten ice tea to your liking. It could work equally well for lemonade, and stores for three weeks in the fridge:
    http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Sugar-Syrup-101709

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    What’s interesting…and kind scary is that the GOP in Iowa is salivating (thier words) to get Palin in Iowa for fundraisers,ect. I read the story this morning in the Des Moines Register. They said she was hugely popular during the campaign. Things are a bit different now than the campaign, so maybe they are overestimated her popularity.

    I lived in Iowa until a few years ago, and I never thought they were the “type” who would be ga-ga over Palin. These are hard working, salt of the earth people who never quit and don’t looked up to quitters (or so I thought). I never took them for people cared about flash–they always seemed to care about the substance.

    They take their role–first in the Nation caucus—very seriously. They study the issues, they go listen to the candidates, they debate. As there are a lot of farmers, they want to know how the candidates will impact their livihoods. The candidates have town hall meetings for years because these are people who care about the issues—–or so I thought.

    I cannot express how disapointed I am in this “news”. Is this all media hype? Maybe. Have recent events and Palin’s words/actions diminished her popularity there? Maybe. But, I find it very sad that Iowan’s would be supporters of Palin. What ARE people thinking?

    I just had to vent my frustration.

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    Just to add:

    If Palin does run, I cannot imagine her being able to keep up a tough schedule of campaigning in Iowa for several years. It’s brutal on the candidates. They are expected to travel to every corner of the state, and talk to people in-depth about the issue concerning Iowans. Hope she will be well read on corn farming and raising pigs.

    Something that Palin would probably feel is “below her”. Plus, Palin’s snarky attitude would show through, “You aren’t listening to me, Andrea”….
    “In what respect, Charlie”. Don’t think that will play real well in small town Iowa.

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    pacos_galNo Gravatar says:

    I think what needs to be done is to Not have a Personnel Board appointed by those that they are suppose to investigate. That is a clear conflict of interest.
    You know I’m big on elections, so just add them to a ballot. If they investigate the Governor, then they could be appointed by the Legislature.
    I’m sure that there are frivolous complaints filed against politicians, but more often than not a complaint if filed because there is no further recourse by the complainant. It is fairly easy to dismiss a complaint and weed out those that are without merit, leaving those that are to be investigated by an independent board.
    I am not so thrilled with Mr. Halcro this morning. Remember he wants to run for Governor. I actually expect that they will change this back to being a confidential matter after all the publicity about ethic complaints surrounding Ms. Palin.
    I still say the best defense of the citizens is to get a Democrat elected Governor, or anyone who actually will work for the citizens and not for their connections.

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    Nan (aka roswellborn)No Gravatar says:

    EyeOnYou (169)

    About that confidentiality thing with the ethics complaints. There has been a lot of talk about keeping our politicians accountable. Yes, we can vote the turkey out of office, but that’s only in an election year (unless you want to mess with recall or impeachment).

    Ethics complaints have a real function. But that function would be muffled if total confidentiality was in place. How could there be accountability if no one can know that a complaint was even filed?

    Some years back, there was a huge (brief) fuss when it was learned that rape victims in St Louis were being told to “sign here” to get the case on the books. That signature (not explained clearly to the victim) essentially made the police report a “memo.” And a memo is not a police report. The result was that many rapes went “unreported” and not investigated.

    Accountability can’t exist in the vacuum of secrecy.

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    NanNo Gravatar says:

    TwoBlueJays (191)

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/7/751033/-Palin,-please-dont-let-it-be-this...

    This is very interesting take on GovRapture’s recent comments.
    ________________

    Thank you, TwoBlueJays for posting that link!

    That has me scared spitless. Because it really doesn’t matter if the GOP tosses SP under their bus, she has “alternate funding,” as described in that article. And she does have support from the looney tunes that think she is the newest of the Annointed Ones.

    Even if she does have the support of just a portion of the GOP, this “alternate funding” will support her even more enthusiastically as that’s a foot in the door of the established political process.

    Correction: another foot in the door.

    Read it.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Womanwithasardinecan – Your point is great. Did you see the post by Empish early in this thread? He linked the General Contractor’s web page, while saying the SBS connection was a red herring. That’s the first time I’ve seen the GC’s name/page (I’m not that up with this) but I’m wondering about that aspect.

    Seems like someone has to talk though, not sure how to otherwise get info from them….

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    crystalwolf aka caligrlNo Gravatar says:

    JHop Says:
    July 8th, 2009 at 11:03 PM

    lexky -

    i dont think so, or i missed it too.

    it still says: Big dirty scandal about to hit the Palin universe
    Evidenced by Palin’s abrupt announcement that she’s quitting the State of Alaska without explanation. If it smells like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck. It’s a duck. Stay tuned…
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Gryphen and AKM posted it! AKM posted I think 6/24
    It is IRS/embezzlement and 3 new ethics complaints (well 2 now b/c one was just filed)
    AKM thanks for the pic of Brian, he’s so handsome with his new “head gear”!
    And you should of pulled a “palin” at the coffee place! “Don’t you know who I am?” “Can I get the sarah palin discount?” :D

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    New article from Mother Jones skewers the Time interview:

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/07/time-goes-gaga-palin

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    GramiamNo Gravatar says:

    Conan O’Brien: “In a recent study, the United States was ranked the 114th happiest country in the world. … Then Sarah Palin stepped down. Now we’re at 17.”

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    tewiseNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/07/ordinance-64-public-testimony-live-blog/

    My comments
    comment 1024 and 25 for anyone that is interested in the profile of a pedophile or child molester. Look at the end of 1024 last paragraph the rest is just my ranting. If anyone plans on attending the meeting and speaking I will do all the research I can for you to present at the hearing. Since these people keep claiming that gays are mentally, criminally sexual deviants and as far as I have heard no one has presented in documentation of this alleged facts.imho

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    Twobluejays: Thanks for the link. Great article.

    It does seem that Palin is using a lot of “code” words. “Higher power”…”outside of government” (but not ruling out a Presidential run–as I am sure this extreme religious group wants someone in the White House). I even think that use of the words “desecration” and my “iconic” image were not by accident. They may have been spoken by Meg, but I can just hear Palin saying….Make sure you use the word dececrate and iconic!!!!!

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Syrin’s blog – article by Dan Fagan

    “She lied. But that’s what she does. She lies. Over and over and over and over and over again. She is a liar!”

    http://syrin.vox.com/library/post/sarah-palin-is-mentally-unstable.html?_c=feed-atom

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Steele dismisses Palin as ‘old school’: ‘That’s not the generation of candidates I’m trying to groom.’

    http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/09/steele-palin-old/

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    Annie MNNo Gravatar says:

    Another take on Ms. Bailin’s new path:

    http://wellstone.org/blog/palins-new-career-choice

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Austin – code word for racist!

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    BlooperNo Gravatar says:

    This is a snippet from today’s ADN commentary about Palin’s latest buffoonery:

    “Palin did not tell the truth when she said she is leaving for the good of Alaskans. She is leaving for her own good. With Sarah Palin, “me” always comes first. And with Sarah Palin, the personal and the political are never separate but totally intertwined. In fact, they are the same thing.”

    This is clarity that the ADN needs more of. You can read the entire article here:

    http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/carey/story/858429.html

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Palin must have subscribed to that quote a day sent to your Blackberry

    “So AK kids: take time to take your parents fishing: “You learn more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation” -Plato
    42 minutes ago from TwitterBerry”

    Someone please ask her today in Fairbanks WHO PLATO WAS, for shty & giggles.

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    UK LadyNo Gravatar says:

    austintx – Thanks for think progress link. That is so funny, this means that the GOP have thrown quittypants under the bus. Unless of course he walks it back in the next two hours, par for the course.

    p.s. have PM’d you.

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    Trisha

    I think you’re right on with her religious references. I see much of her victim posturing – during and after the campaign (it was especially evident in the Ziegler’s mockable documentary) – as evidence of her goal to elevate herself in the eyes of her followers to that of martyr. “I’m under attack by the evil media. I’m under attack by evil bloggers. I’m under attack by evil Democrats. See, there is Evil all around us! And we must defeat it!” I don’t think it can be overstated how dangerous Palin and her fellow anti-rational religious extremists are.

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    Hey everyone…thanks for all the great links. I have visited all that have been posted here, and they are awesome. You rock!!!!

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup: You are so right.

    The other thing I forgot to mention, on some of her fan sites, there are people saying that they will fight to their death with Palin…ect. Is this also code for the “if I die–I die” mantra of this group?

    Weird stuff. I don’t remember any Obama supporters offering up their life in “sacrifice”. Hey….”sacrifice” is another word she has used lately, as if she is a sacrificial lamb of God. Man, I’m freaking out. LOL

    I don’t think it’s out of character for her to feel she is the “chosen one” of God.

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    BuffaloGalNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup and Trisha –

    I’m absolutely convinced that the answer to all things Palin can be found in her connection to the New Apostolic Reformation and the third wave movement. This connection and her having been anointed within this “church” (loose term because it’s really a collection of cells throughout the US and the world) is what initially freaked me out when she came on the scene.

    I’m putting together some info that I hope to launch in the near future to help people understand the agenda of this movement. Scary stuff.

    And, if you want a laugh (but one of those “o dear gawd that’s funny but for disturbing reasons) , read or listen to the lyrics of “Gethsemane” from Jesus Christ Superstar and imagine Sarah with her anointed one complex singing it. Freaky!

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    Alaskan SisuNo Gravatar says:

    Chrystalwolf said, if it smells like a duck, looks like a duck and walks like a duck – its a duck!

    Yes in deedy mudpuppies! It’s smelling awfully duck farty in Alaska these days! The Alaskan ducks aren’t buying what GINO’s selling either.

    UFDA!

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    BuffaloGal

    I look forward to reading your compilation. As soon as I saw the Muthee tape last Fall I began reading about them, and they also have a lot of videos on Youtube. The link is to my Youtube channel, and on the channel page is a playlist called “Wackos we all need to know about.” It’s a random collection I gathered as I came across them. I’ve started a couple times to do what you’re doing, but I just turn away from it after a few hours and don’t want to go back – it really feels like venturing into the dark side. Are you familiar with the work done at Daily Kos?? If not, I’ll dig up a link for you.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Nutrino2179

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    GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust ScrambleNo Gravatar says:

    OK. Am I in the Open Thread? Yes.

    Brad Blog’s cartoon today is hilarious.

    And BuffaloGal, I agree. All those people including Dobson, Franklin, “Cully”, and many more I could name, scare the bejesus out of me. JMO, they read WAY too much out of the Old Testament and Revelations.

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    BuffaloGal: I look forward to seeing some more on this movement. The Evangelicals, who love Palin, seem to be unaware of her true beliefs. I think they need to find out the truth, but I’m not sure they will believe it. I think they take any criticism of Palin as….. from the Devil.

    Oh well, they asked for it, and they may get it.

    I’m pulling up the lyrics to that song next.

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    The editorial in the ADN is fantastic. I hope everyone starts posting links to that on other sites. I will…because it needs greater mainstream play.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    RE: Bradblog – I guess Nightline did a story on Monday night about the different rumors & the FBI meme?? Terrible reporting per Bradblog – good read.

    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7289

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    Dr. PatoisNo Gravatar says:

    Don’t miss this:

    http://trueslant.com/jeffhoard/2009/07/08/100-reasons-well-miss-sarah-palin/

    Be sure to read all four parts. There are links for back up on everything.

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    michiganderNo Gravatar says:

    Hang in there AKM – Many thanks for all you do (o:

    Thanks to everyone for so much good info, links and humor.

    Hugs and understanding to Califpat and others who have been here since the beginning. Keep on commenting – kind of overwhelming for us all these days!

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    ahaNo Gravatar says:

    I sure hope they hack and recover the data from her blackberry when she turns it in…nothing is erased forever…heh heh

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    puffin shrapnel palinNo Gravatar says:

    Was it a Kaladi Brothers frozen latte? Sweet Jesus, I love me some Kaladi Brothers!

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    NanNo Gravatar says:

    BuffaloGal – I sent a PM

    Closet Mudpup
    about that Dark SIde thing – that’s exactly how I came to be looking into some of this, too – by simply wanting to know more about this “Muthee” guy. Sometimes, I wish I hadn’t (ignorance is bliss and all that). But on 2nd thought, I’d much rather hear the tornado siren in time to get to safety, so I keep on reading – or come back to it after a needed time out.

    I’m in.

    Nan

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    BuffaloGalNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup – Thanks for the link. I kick myself for not downloading the early video finds back in the first days of September. I had bookmarked them but sure enough many were scrubbed within days. I’ve got a pretty good collection at this point but am constantly looking so thanks!

    GA Peach – the old testament stuff is scary enough but when you get into the nitty gritty of the agenda it’s just absolutely frightening. And what really freaks me out is that I find myself recognizing the genius of it. Add to that the fact that they truly believe they’ve been commanded to ready the entire globe for Jesus and all that stand in the way must be converted and you come up with a seriously dangerous situation.

    Trisha – That’s another point. The Evangelicals hear her using the code words that are a comfort zone for them so they assume she’s from the same religious doctrine. That’s how they win over the small churches in the hamlets and towns of America. They take root and then begin expanding. Like I said, the agenda is really brilliant.

    Right now the site I’m working on has a great look to it but it’s still a mish-mosh of info. I was going to wait until it was meeting my Virgo pickiness (i can tweek a project to death and assure that it never gets off the ground) but I think I’m going to launch it in a week or two in its imperfect state and then continue to tweek from there. I look forward to everyone’s input. Sometimes I get into the middle of a publication and I can’t see it clearly from the inside.

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    OutWest08No Gravatar says:

    About craziness – I truly enjoyed reading it. Nice to know that it is not so cold in Alaska.

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    OutWest08No Gravatar says:

    oh, and by the way, what is nice about reading something refreshing like open thread – craziness is that it doesn’t talk about Falin’.

    oh, I am sorry, Palin.

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/the-odd-lies-of-sarah-palin-a-roundup.html

    Palin’s lies. This is great. I apologize if it has already been posted. He asked for corrections or omissions—if you have any.

    Wasn’t there a recent lie about the boat she said Todd built.

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    TerpsichoreNo Gravatar says:

    Since this is the Open Thread, and you can’t be OT on an OT (ironic, idn’t it?), I’ve been musing about how book deal plays into all this.

    First off, as of whenever last reporting period was (March? April?), I haven’t seen anything in her gov. disclosures that says she herself has gotten any income other than govs salary. Meaning, if that’s true, no advance from book publisher – so far.

    So here’s my theory: Just recently a rumor is starting to fly about the book deal being $3.5 or $4 mil. I presume that’s the whole deal, not an advance.

    I think she just recently got informed of the advance amount and when the check will arrive. Even a conservative 5% advance is $175,000 – more than she makes in a year as gov!

    I think that’s what the family vote was on – should I just take the money and dump the gov-ship?
    TRACK (via e-mail): Well, yeah, mom, I told you not to run for gov in the first place ’cause you’d hate it and I’d end up hating you for it.
    BRISTOL: megadittos
    WILLOW: yes
    PIPER: Hell yes!!
    TRIG: Goo goo ga ga goo

    The reason she had to do it suddenly was because the publisher told her it was coming in early August. As gov., she would have to disclose the amount and, despite the Papal Dispensation already given (by Van Flein, was it?) that said “No it is not an ethics violation for her to write a book while serving as governor already so don’t file a charge already!”, she maybe actually saw that she couldn’t get away with the “writing it in my spare time” thing.

    Also, as gov., she’d have to publically release 2009 tax returns and that makes it harder to hide money from “the Feds” – IF that is what she would like to do. Even a factual release would lead to more stories and criticism, but then, that’s what you take on when you assume the role of such a public figure as governor of an American state.

    I think she truly saw this as a way to pursue her “pet projects” without so much hassle, and the money must be good enough for Todd to think he won’t have to go back working on the Slope to provide for his family, ’cause he’d rather fish (which, like what I do, is indeed work, but some people think it’s just play), and race his snowmachine (which IS just play, not a ‘job’).

    However, if my theory is in any way correct, if I were the publishing company, I’d be a little miffed right now – the deal (I presume) was for a book by a successful woman governor, and now, it’s going to be about a quitting woman governor. I’d think the value of her product just went down considerably.

    The book was scheduled to come out next Spring. She won’t be able to do much by press time (say, maybe February) to negate the damage done by resigning midterm, with no apparent reason anyone can understand.

    Meanwhile, Levi is apparently shopping his book. If his comes out before hers, I think he’ll pick up extra sales just from the rabidly curious.

    Have fun with my musings mudpups. But don’t sue me, this is just my opinion.

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    By the way, it has been 30 days since the Gov went to Auburn NY and to the baseball game.

    Has she disclosed the “gifts” she’s received via those B-Ball tickets from Giuliani?

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    Buffalogal

    The process you describe for taking over community churches is the same “infiltration” concept described by Muthee in the video where he Anointed SP. That is also why I cringe every time I hear SP (or any number of other “social conservatives”) railing about “smaller government” and “local control.” The Evangelical churches have local control, which is what makes them easy targets for infiltration and takeover. That is why the NAR people are working to disrupt the hierarchical structure of mainstream churches, and to limit the reach of those nasty feds. The remark by one of the Republicans earlier this year in a rant against Obama’s Socialism that “we need to be more like the Taliban” resounded on many levels for me that the MSM never got close to. Local infiltration is the lifeblood of the Taliban. For those of you who remember Blue Laws – those were a product of local control. Rajneeshpuram (Antelope, OR) illustrates the vulnerability of communities to the infiltration process.

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    CGNo Gravatar says:

    Okay. Sean Parnell. What can we expect?

    Probably more of the same. He’s defended everything about Palin’s administration. He’s tied in to the same rigid Conservative Christian organizations and beliefs. Grace Christian School board.
    He was with Palin at the same christian gatherings.
    Remember the praying over Sarah Palin up in Wasilla at the “One Lord Sunday”? Parnell participated.
    “The Rev. Ed Kalnins, pastor of the Pentecostal church, Wasilla Assembly of God, says he has told church members that God put President George W. Bush in office and that America is locked in a “holy war” with terrorists.”

    “On a weekend trip from the capital in June, a minister from the Wasilla Assembly of God blessed Palin and Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell before a crowd gathered for the “One Lord Sunday” event at the town’s hockey rink. ”
    “A spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign, Maria Comella, said the state paid for Palin’s travel and meals on that trip, and for other meetings with Christian groups, because she and her family were invited in their official capacity as Alaska’s first family. Parnell did not charge the state a per diem or ask to be reimbursed for travel expenses that day.”
    From msnbc “As governor, Palin at times links church, state”

    Interviews with KWHL’s Bob & Mark, Eddie Burke, repeating Sarah’s stimulus package position and “the strings attached.”
    Sean Parnell speech posted on State of Alaska Lt. Gov website:
    “In all of these cases, Washington is clearly trying to overtake Alaska with its agenda, and we are standing against that interference. In Alaska, our freedom is not for sale.”

    Oh boy.

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    BuffaloGalNo Gravatar says:

    Terpsichore – Good points on the book deal and the timing of the quitting. (loved Trig’s response. he’s got good sense, that boy)

    You could be right about the publisher being miffed but I think she can calm them by simply pitching a reslant of the book. They already knew who her buying public would be and now, divested of that pesky gubernatorial hat, she can tell the story of a spiritual maverick who did the right thing for “the team” and she won’t have to be so “nudge nudge wink winky” about who the team really is. She can be more out in the open about the Evangelical motivation.

    Nan – responded on PM

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    BuffaloGal: I am looking forward to your info, so please put it out there in it’s “imperfect” form. I am very interested is seeing what you have on this movement.

    Truly scary stuff.

    I am laughing at this statement: (i can tweek a project to death and assure that it never gets off the ground)—I am the same way…errr..I frustrated myself!!!!

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    honestyinGovNo Gravatar says:

    02 Seagull Junker Palin Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 7:30 AM
    New article from Mother Jones skewers the Time interview:

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/07/time-goes-gaga-palin
    ————————————————-
    Mother Jones lets you comment without signing in in their comments. I just posted about the big Money Lie that Palin is using as their meme.
    Drop a comment in there if you have a chance. They should read their own comments as well as the readers. Plus… I sort of name dropped Mudflats name in there as a reference for info.

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    CG

    I have no doubt that this is what SP’s basketball analogy was all about – and the meaning of her words was not at all lost on her fellow extremists. The basketball was the governor’s seat – an acquisition she was willing to sacrifice in order to pass it to Parnell now so he can run as an incumbent, historically speaking, a significant advantage for him. Ignoring the other advantages her resignation offers her, she will be viewed by her followers as having made a personal sacrifice that proves her commitment to their cause, and elevates her even further in their view – her halo now shines even brighter than before.

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    michiganderNo Gravatar says:

    Just commented on the Huffpo story. Also read the ADN story. Yay! Glad Pantsafire’s lies are getting some coverage.

    Thanks for the heads up (o:

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    BuffaloGalNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup –

    That’s exactly the description – they are no different than the Taliban as far as focus and determination. Dangerous extremism doing the bidding of God and death to the heathens. Of course, with the NAR, at least now, “death” means conversion. But listening to some of the leaders when their propaganda filter is down a bit, you can hear that they will do whatever it takes. If I die, I die. If they die, they die. Just watch a Jesus Camp documentary and it doesn’t take a giant leap to see what’s happening.

    When you listen to Palin from this context, everything falls into place. You can hear her, quite often, stop herself from saying certain things that are blatantly NAR based and she quickly rephrases. I sometimes think that’s part of her problem with speaking publicly. She’s constantly censoring herself to keep strictly on the code words in order to not be too blatant. It’s not time yet .

    It’s funny (in that unsettling way) – I listened to her quitter speech again the other morning and picked out the words that stood out as really not making any sense. I plugged those words into Google and I got a good number of responses to NAR type churches, info sites and videos. I thought that was pretty telling.

    The other thing that always gets me is that when you hear the NAR women rant or preach, you’d think it was Palin talking. Brrrrr…..

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    In reading the Huffpo piece on the ADN confirming Sarah’s story just doesn’t add up, I noticed that someone posted this link

    http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/DocDisplay.cfm?SelectedDoc=20010228400&District=311

    It shows that the Palins have a lien against their home and the lien holders are
    WELLS FARGO BANK WEST & SPENARD BUILDERS SUPPLY

    Why is Spenard a lien holder?

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Eye on you – whenever someone (in construction) sells to a builder/project, they file a lien against the property to guarantee they will get paid in full. Because what they supply is part of the structure, they can file on the house/project itself. Really standard op procedure with bigger jobs. Little ones, you might just trust..

    Verrrrrry simplified statement, but hopefully it makes sense.

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    Wow. You are a fantastic writer. I haven’t been to this site a lot (though I’ve been freaked out about SP ever since August 29th and should’ve been here much more. I’ll fix that.) But your frozen latte post was just great. Thanks!

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    SunSweetNo Gravatar says:

    Just read this from a link at News Hounds. “Desperate Conservatives Fooled by Palin” by Olivia St John. Seems like some conservatives are NOT happy about Sarah. Interesting read…..

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    Better download that or print it off….fast. Online things about the Palin’s seems things are disappearing fast.

    I would suggest that to everyone. If you see something…especially any kind of State records or info….make sure you have it in a safe place.

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    A while back, within the past month, Scarah asked that the Arctic Cat financial info need not be disclosed. She made the request. What was the answer to the review board?

    Also, wanted to post a good comment from Andree about Parnell keeping the same staff Scarah had. Thank you Andree, please don’t quit trying, we believe you!

    AndreeMcLeod wrote on 07/06/2009 07:41:25 PM:

    Is this the same chief of staff Nizich:
    –who did not stop the governor from using private email accounts for conducting official state business in order to circumvent public record laws?
    —who approved Palin cashing in thousands of $$ in per diem checks for living in her Wasilla home while not incurring any additonal expenses and giving herself a raise thereby violating AK laws?
    —who did not protect Alaska’s interests by not invoking AK Constitution’s Article 3, Section 9 (Temporary Absence: In case of the temporary absence of the governor from office, the lieutenant governor shall serve as acting governor)
    because he was too busy pallin’ around with the muckity-mucks at the Republican Convention?

    And where was Sean Parnell when all this was happening?

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    trishaNo Gravatar says:

    buffalogal—very interesting. Did I just feel a cold breeze blow by me?

    You are right….brrrrrrrr.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    After reading everything, sometimes I just think that they HAD to spin her weird speech somehow. It was just too too too strange. She threw a bunch of stuff on the wall & then after review, had to come up with something that would stick. Unfortunately, the meme about ethics complaints & $$$ doesn’t stick. Now what?

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    And wanted to post this comment from a person in CA……..

    “Sarah Palin claimed unfairness from the press towards her and her family as part of her reason for stepping down as governor of Alaska. How could she expect anything less as a candidate for national office?

    After 18 years under the microscope, Hillary Clinton has been by far the most harassed woman, liberal or conservative, I have ever witnessed. We all know that Sarah Palin, is an extremely photogenic woman. Hillary, although not unattractive, has had every body part ridiculed, from the tip of her ‘do to her “fat” ankles. At the age of 60, her “big butt” was bounced around the media like a beach ball, even though my own butt would make Hillary’s look tiny. Her alleged sordid sexual affairs ranged from Janet Reno, who a presidential candidate joked was the father of Chelsea, to the newest revelation, Vince Foster (who I thought Bill Clinton had offed because of Whitewater, according to Russettes.) This has gone on for years, not months, and I am sure part of what attracted Hillary to SOS was getting away from the spotlight.

    It would be foolish to underestimate Sarah Palin, as she is neither dumb nor naive. She has powers of manipulation and persuasion that other politicians can only dream about. I would bet she always had her way as a child and teenager and is obviously miffed when things don’t go her way today. In her statement of giving two week notice to the people of Alaska, she was determined to speak without a teleprompter, as if to prove she could do what her fans say President Obama cannot.”

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Yep – unfinished business:

    APOC questions – Arctic Cat trade secrets vs. disclosure of $ made

    Yahoo emails – requested in court – postponed by Judge who’s in running for Sup. Ct. of Alaska

    APOC questions – unopened gifts. Remember those uncashed checks in the THOUSANDS???

    I’m missing something I’m sure…..

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    pacos_galNo Gravatar says:

    #231 Terpsichore I’ve heard that it is the advance itself that is 4 million, the contract is much more.

    HarperCollins along with the Christina side of HarperCollins publishing, Zondervan, will be issuing two versions. One with be a more Christian version, containing more stuff about her faith and all, while the other will be the more main stream version.

    So, good point, that advance, would Have to be disclosed, along with any other monies given to her by her Alaska Fund Trust, which counts as income if you draw from it.

    A 4 million advance for celebrity types isn’t unheard of. She will however, and most agree on this, need to keep her name in the headlines between now and the time the book is released.

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    BuffaloGal
    She’s constantly censoring herself to keep strictly on the code words in order to not be too blatant. It’s not time yet .

    I’m glad to hear someone else say that, because that’s exactly what I thought I was picking up even during the campaign. In her radio interview with James Dobson just before the election, she was less guarded it seemed, and made a point of thanking “all our prayer warriors out there for their support.” I needed no interpreter for that.

    I posted some ramblings about her and her resignation speech yesterday on the open thread, and my summation of it was this – “It made very good sense. You just have to realize she wasn’t talking to us,” and went on to compare her “no more politics as usual” as virtually a Fatwa for other officeholders among her dark brethren. “Here is the new way. I will lead you.”

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    pacos_galNo Gravatar says:

    eeek…make that Christian side, not Christina side…holy cow!

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    CGNo Gravatar says:

    For review, the State of Alaska ethics code:

    AS 39.52.010. Declaration of Policy.
    (a) It is declared that
    (1) high moral and ethical standards among public officers in the executive branch are essential to assure the trust, respect, and confidence of the people of this state;
    (2) a code of ethics for the guidance of public officers will
    (A) discourage those officers from acting upon personal or financial interests in the performance of their public responsibilities;
    (B) improve standards of public service; and
    (C) promote and strengthen the faith and confidence of the people of this state in their public officers;
    (3) holding public office or employment is a public trust and that as one safeguard of that trust, the people require public officers to adhere to a code of ethics;
    (4) a fair and open government requires that executive branch public officers conduct the public’s business in a manner that preserves the integrity of the governmental process and avoids conflicts of interest;
    (5) in order for the rules governing conduct to be respected both during and after leaving public service, the code of ethics must be administered fairly without bias or favoritism;
    (6) no code of conduct, however comprehensive, can anticipate all situations in which violations may occur nor can it prescribe behaviors that are appropriate to every situation; in addition, laws and regulations regarding ethical responsibilities cannot legislate morality, eradicate corruption, or eliminate bad judgment; and
    (7) compliance with a code of ethics is an individual responsibility; thus all who serve the state have a solemn responsibility to avoid improper conduct and prevent improper behavior by colleagues and subordinates.

    AS 39.52.190. Aiding a Violation Prohibited.
    It is a violation of this chapter for a public officer to knowingly aid another public officer in a violation of this chapter.

    Hey. Lt. Governor Parnell, Chief of Staff Mike Nizich, Thomas Van Flein. Please be advised, it’s in the statues. You cannot allow unethical on your watch, participate in it, nor aid a violation.

    It is your DUTY to address it, as unpopular as it may make you with Sarah Palin and her “base” on a national level. [Why Alaska's administration is national politics, I do not understand]
    Attention to duty, however, will NOT make you unpopular with a majority of constituents. It will relieve and reassure us. It will make us like you and strongly support you, with the same collective passion that you see now.

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    CGNo Gravatar says:

    I think the Alaska Bar Association may be paying attention to Van Flein’s statements and conduct as well.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Thank you for posting CG.

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    TerpsichoreNo Gravatar says:

    235 BuffaloGal Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 9:49 AM

    You could be right about the publisher being miffed but I think she can calm them by simply pitching a reslant of the book. They already knew who her buying public would be and now, divested of that pesky gubernatorial hat, she can tell the story of a spiritual maverick who did the right thing for “the team” and she won’t have to be so “nudge nudge wink winky” about who the team really is. She can be more out in the open about the Evangelical motivation.
    * ** ** * ** * ** * ** * ** * ** *
    Don’t doubt that for a minute, but that still leaves the ‘when’ will the book be released and ‘what’ will SP have announced about her future by that time, and ‘how’ will what she writes in the book affect that? If she gets too Evangelically in her book, will people at a national level feel comfortable with her running for US Pres in 2012? (I’ll worry about 2016 later …) Both Huckabee’s and Romney’s religion went against them (IMO and for different reasons) in the last Republican primary. I think overall, we don’t mind having leaders who ARE religious, we just bristle – as I think we should – when one tries to suggest that their religion and beliefs are ‘right’ and that, QED, others are wrong. And that they will make legislative decisions based on that belief.

    This is where I believe Sarah Palin fails. She can’t get out of basketball camp – there’s only our side or the enemy, it’s win or lose, you’re with us or you’re against us. I do not want as MY representative someone who can’t at least respect the value of an opposing opinion, religious or otherwise, and concede that it might have merit, and I do not see that she has that capability.

    BuffaloGal, if your scenario is right, then using God to bolster the credibility of her opinion over others in her book would just turn me, and I presume others, off. Me! A Christian, supposedly like her!

    Which is all a long way of saying, well, she could very well do that, but would it do her any good in the long run?

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Time Mag’s last article was crock full of fact errors. But here they are again with another. Meg Stapleton is blaming RAHM now. Oh for the love of……

    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/07/09/a-final-palin-post/#more-14455

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    BuffaloGalNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup – it sounds like we’re on the same page. Once you’re listening to her from that perspective, she actually does begin to make sense. I posted the same thing yesterday about having to realize that she’s not talking to us and doesn’t give a mouses butt whether we think she’s being clear. The non-believers don’t matter outside of being potential converts.

    On a lighter note: Is anyone here a fan of Stargate SG1? If so, doncha think the storyline of The Ori is sooooo third wave, New Apostolic Reformation ?? When Sarah was plunked down on to the national stage and everyone started worshiping here I got this huge hit of , “OMIGAWD! It’s Adria the Orici !!! ( gee – i do hope someone knows what I’m talking about because otherwise I just sounded entirely insane)

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    Seagull Junker Palin
    THANKS for the link to that! Why am I not surprised that Meg is linking all of this to Obama? No doubt the whisperings of Palins fan site supporters, who have been making this claim all along, isn’t hurting either.

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    nebraska mudflatterNo Gravatar says:

    I have never seen this blog, but a friend just sent this post and it looks great:

    http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/sarah-palin-called-a-family-meeting-and-the-rabbit-lived/#comment-28460

    Sample quote: “She mixes religion and politics like I mix gin and tonic but then calls for less government involvement. Freedom from government is her battle cry until a vagina gets involved and then watch how much involvement she wants.”

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    BuffaloGalNo Gravatar says:

    Terpsichore Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    If she gets too Evangelically in her book, will people at a national level feel comfortable with her running for US Pres in 2012? (I’ll worry about 2016 later …) Both Huckabee’s and Romney’s religion went against them (IMO and for different reasons) in the last Republican primary.

    ============================

    I think that’s where her repositioning will come in. I’m not sure running in 2012 is as important anymore. She’s been chosen for great things within the movement but when she says ” i don’t need a title to effect change in America” I think she means it. The NAR has seven areas of culture that they want to convert for Jesus and she is in a position to tackle two right now. By putting her support behind any candidate that espouses the values that she believes in ( the third wave stuff) she will be helping them on the political front but she also will have the chance to infiltrate the media and this is BIG with them. The book will go far with that if she plays it right.

    The NAR talks often about “the tipping point”. They believe that they can bring the movement slowly above ground now because their conservative values will resonate with many Christians who are of the Evangelical bent but aren’t NAR, (yet). She will entirely drive away the likes of you or me or millions of other Christians of other denominations but we’re not important to them right now. It’s the “tipping point” Christians that they’re looking for now and her book would go a long way to bringing them into the fold.

    At least that’s the way I’m reading all of this. I’ve never before been the least bit curious about that danged book but now, I’m all about the “when” , as you said.

    For the first time, I’m now really curious about this book deal.

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    leenie17No Gravatar says:

    I’ve been spending WAYYY too much time on this blog over the past few days and I am feeling a distinct sense of Palin fatigue. Of course, that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop reading the posts, but I thought I’d share something that might brighten your day for a few moments. Check out these photos of a baby contest in Barrow. I dare you to look at these babies and not say, “Awwww!”

    http://wasillaalaskaby300.squarespace.com/journal/2009/7/8/the-eight-babies-who-won-but-who-did-not-take-first.html

    (Sorry I don’t know how to do a regular link but you can copy and paste!)

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Thanks Leenie!!!! Soooo cute!

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    BuffaloGalNo Gravatar says:

    leenie – Babies!!! You can always get a pick me up from babies of all kinds. Thank you!

    And I hear you – I’m feeling rather uberwhelmed with the Palin stuff these past few days. I think I hit the wall today so I’m off to watch an episode of Kojak. (retro tv) I would love to hear his take on Buttercup. I can totally hear him saying it, too. ha!

    Kojak, ice tea and a nap. Yes…. that’s the ticket. See you all later!

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    twain12No Gravatar says:

    not sure if this has been posted yet , but i found it interesting :
    Does Sarah Palin Fear Upcoming Book Revelations?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-mirvish/does-sarah-palin-fear-upc_b_225801.html

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    JackieNo Gravatar says:

    Buffalo Gal, Closet Mudpup, Trisha – have you been to http://www.theopalinism.com/blog/ ? Also Regina at palingates has a lot under religiongate, and then there is the Scientology tie in with Greta & her husband which I found somewhere and now can’t find again…
    All of these ultra religious ties are frightening.

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    Freakout in KansasNo Gravatar says:

    I was just watching some of the boat interviews and got to wondering if a fishing license was required and if so, does Sarah have one? Something tells me that she wouldn’t let a little technicality like that get in the way of face time with the TV cameras. Is there anyway to find out?

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    ahaNo Gravatar says:

    I encourage everyone to watch this CBS News video on the Swine Flu vaccination/outbreak of 1976 (maybe some of you remember it).

    It is should be of concern to all of us. To my knowledge it was aired one time and then suppressed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0aIoa97X5k&NR=1

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    BooBooBearNo Gravatar says:

    Perhaps a MUDPUPPIES PICNIC on the 26th? To celebrate our own Independence Day?

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Freakout – I think it was yesterdays/last nights open thread, but one industrious Mudflatter looked it up and apparently Todd does not have a 2009 license and/or his boat isn’t licensed.

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    honestyinGovNo Gravatar says:

    Well,.. Buttercup is in the Urban Dictionary again as… ” Pulling a Palin”
    As reported in the Huffpo story about it.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/09/pullin-a-palin-now-in-the_n_228545.html
    ———————————–
    I noticed one of the comments posted as well. Here it is……

    AbyssinianLion I’m a Fan of AbyssinianLion

    I tried to join Team Sarah today to read the forum and comments. That site is like Fort Knox! You have to give up a phone number to join. Has anyone ever heard of this? Now I am intrigued to find out what the site is like.
    Posted 03:14 PM on 07/09/2009

    There were other comments under his original post as well. One was from a Mudflatter who I recognized.

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    Jackie
    Thanks for the links.

    Indeed those ties are disturbing, and it is no comfort to delve into the organizations and people involved and find references to Palin as The Great One and The Anointed One. Some of them even “credit” themselves with praying Mother Theresa and Princess Di to death.

    They’re not a mere half-bubble off.

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    ds55No Gravatar says:

    Who was that blonde woman that was just on MSNBC? I looked up when I saw her launch into a personal attack on the dark-haired girl in the split screen. The blonde apparently ran out of talking points and asked the girl “Aren’t you ashamed?” then said “I’m offended.” I immediately thought of Gov. Winky.

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Did she actually fish or just troll?
    http://www.daylife.com/search?q=sarah+palin

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    nebraska mudflatterNo Gravatar says:

    Seagull Junker Palin Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Freakout – I think it was yesterdays/last nights open thread, but one industrious Mudflatter looked it up and apparently Todd does not have a 2009 license and/or his boat isn’t licensed.
    =================================================

    One of the many highly negative comments on the ADN fishing article the other day noted the absence of flotation aids on Sarah and Todd as they were checking their setnet. The reader noted that if he were caught without one he would be fined, expressing some “envy” for the privileges that come with her role!

  279. 280
    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    nebraska mudflatter Says “One of the many highly negative comments on the ADN fishing article the other day noted the absence of flotation aids on Sarah and Todd as they were checking their setnet. The reader noted that if he were caught without one he would be fined, expressing some “envy” for the privileges that come with her role!”

    Wasn’t Piper also too suppose to be in a lifejacket?

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    TerpsichoreNo Gravatar says:

    “For the first time, I’m now really curious about this book deal.”

    As you should be, BuffaloGal. I am convinced that, had there not been a book deal in place, SP would not have resigned, at least not when she did.

    In the short term, the money is great, what I don’t believe the Palin family has considered is the long-term financial ramifications.

    Not gov. anymore? Wave bye-bye to AK state employees benefit plans. Todd’s only income coming from fishing and snowmachine racing? Independent contractor. Has no health insurance benefits. Wife a writer? Hey, great money in the short term (maybe), but you still have to pay for all your own (and your family’s) health insurance.

    No book deal with a bona fide ADVANCE payment, and the Palin family vote might have been (re: should I just dump the gov-ship?):
    TRACK (via e-mail): No way mom, that would just be stupid to give up benefits.
    BRISTOL: megadittos
    WILLOW: No
    PIPER: No insurance? HELL NO!!!
    TRIG: Ga ga goo goo ga

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/07Cv9Soa5JgmX?q=sarah+palin

    Fantastic shot of the side of that boat with the repainted numbers on it!

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    nebraska mudflatterNo Gravatar says:

    Good point Isabella!

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/04nAfCx6oY7IO?q=sarah+palin

    Color me surprised to see MegoMouth on the back of that boat!!

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    EyeOnYou Says “http://www.daylife.com/photo/04nAfCx6oY7IO?q=sarah+palin Color me surprised to see MegoMouth on the back of that boat!!”

    Is that Meg?

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Sean at ADN must be over the moon the “Paper” is now admitting Palin lied about ethics complaints. I think he is not a Palin admirer.

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    I’d seriously like to know what role Meg actually plays. She was with them during this outing and yet she is supposed to be the PAC spokesperson, and in no way affiliated with the “state” aspect of this, and no doubt Sarah will claim per deim since she flew to the village to sign a bill, so wouldn’t you conclude that she is collecting her paycheck, getting per diem and yet is also working on political business if the PAC person is hanging out with her all hours of the day and night? It isn’t like Meg was there to work on the boat!

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    Isabella,

    The woman with the short red hair is Meg. She is in a couple of pictures.

    This one is the other photo where she is shielding her face.

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/09Je0Oacu08Aq

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Hunnertfive right now. My Granpappy had a few sayings for this kind of heat.

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    honestyinGovNo Gravatar says:

    # 266
    Freakout in Kansas Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    I was just watching some of the boat interviews and got to wondering if a fishing license was required and if so, does Sarah have one? Something tells me that she wouldn’t let a little technicality like that get in the way of face time with the TV cameras. Is there anyway to find out?
    ———————————-
    CG has the same question yesterday and since she is in Alaska she knew a LOT about that. Her long post was # 272 or #274 on the Open thread yesterday. She pointed out whether Sarah and piper had a one day Crews permit to work on the boat. She was also trying to find out if Todd had renewed the license for the boat. It did not appear to be registered based on the serial number of the boat. her post had a LOT more details.

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    EyeOnYou

    One of the reporters whose article I read earlier today talked with Meg on the flight back to Anchorage, while she Meg let the paranoia flow and explained how the “attacks” on Palin are easy to track back to Washington and Obama and Rahm Emanuel. (Rahm’s book on political strategy even explains how they’ve been doing it!)

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    Okay I just looked it up and CG’s post was on page 9 post number 414

    http://www.themudflats.net/2009/07/08/open-thread-15/?cp=9

    I’m thinking that there needs to be a way to keep all this information handy for everyone to be able to go look at it, or reference it quickly as needed. I would normally suggest the forums, but a lot of people don’t read or go there.
    Should we start a topic there anyhow and just add information like this as needed?

    Anyone have any suggestions?

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Hopefully CG can get see the link to the photo – with the number on the boat.
    Crazy stuff. But, we know, it’s all crazy stuff w/Former Gov. Icon. FGI.

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    EyeOnYouNo Gravatar says:

    Closet Mudpup ~

    Is this
    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/07/09/a-final-palin-post/

    what you are talking about??

    I read it and laughed my arse off. They are so desperate to blame this on Obama, but that isn’t surprising, as her fan sites have been doing that and making that same claim for a long time now. It also made me laugh because one of the Editors for one of her fan sites has traveled from Los Angeles to Anchorage and no doubt is giving Meg an earful of …what…where…when…and why’s. ;)

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    EyeOnYou Says “I’d seriously like to know what role Meg actually plays.”

    Me too!!!

    Maybe I am projecting YET loving Meg seems to be the back of the boat both physically and on Palin’s sht list!!!

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    SMRNo Gravatar says:

    If you don’t read Andrew Sullivan’s Daily Dish, it’s a must-read. Not necessarily in regard to Bible Spice, but his insight into plenty of other issues that deserve much more attention than the Iquitarod Queen. He linked to a piece he wrote re: self-esteem, and in reading the first page I was struck by the similarities between the politician discussed and someone else, can you guess who: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,361718,00.html

    Hopefully this will make it thru the censors if I put another link, as he also linked to the article mentioned above by Closet Mudpup:

    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/07/09/a-final-palin-post/#more-14455

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    Closet MudpupNo Gravatar says:

    EyeOnYou

    Yes, that’s the one. It really doesn’t matter if anyone outside her religious following believes it – the bigger the dragon the more it elevates her status as a martyr, and the more energized they will be. That means $ and votes. She’s got them believing her dragons are the MSM, the blogosphere, the Obama admin, and evil forces everywhere. Meg is clearly one of her religious allies, so don’t look for an end to it – no matter how obvious it is that her dragons are just windmills.

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    nebraska mudflatterNo Gravatar says:

    EyeOnYou Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 12:25 PM

    Closet Mudpup ~

    Is this
    http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/07/09/a-final-palin-post/
    ===============================================

    One of the comments:
    “JNS: After the pile-on over your SP interview the other day, one would think it might be prudent to down play another Palinoscopy.”

    PALINOSCOPY! Lol! Not a good visual, though!

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    UK LadyNo Gravatar says:

    Rob in CA posted this earlier. It explains a lot about how SP got to the gov.’s office. Please read if you have time, it is well worth it

    http://www.alaskadispatch.com/palin-watch/1283-palin-how-she-gained-control-and-then-lost-it#top-toolbar-article

    Whether allowing personal political ambition to trump constitutional duty explains Senator French’s refusal to urge the Alaska Senate to initiate an impeachment investigation only Hollis knows. But I can guarantee that if Sarah had decided to stay for her full term the perjury issue would have circled back on her.

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    FairsfairNo Gravatar says:

    Was Gov. Palin or her family wearing life jackets while boating/fishing?

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    Canadian NeighbourNo Gravatar says:

    I can’t remember which Mudpup has been posting about Netroots votes for a relative of someone else, but I think the person may be a student. Thought I would post this in case you had not seen it at the Netroots site.

    Students! We want you at Netroots Nation 2009
    Time magazine calls 2008 “the year of the youth vote.” At Netroots Nation, we hope to make every year about successful youth organizing.

    Because we aim to continually bring new voices into the progressive movement, for the first time ever, we are offering a special student rate for those enrolled at least half-time at a high school, community college, trade school or university.

    For just $50, you can participate in four days of insightful panels, training sessions and networking opportunities at the grassroots event of the year–the annual Netroots Nation convention to be held in Pittsburgh August 13–16.
    http://www.netrootsnation.org/

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    Canadian NeighbourNo Gravatar says:

    Just a quick update on Shannyn’s Netroots application.

    Shannyn has 389 votes. The closest person behind her has 90.

    Application Deadline: July 13th
    Announcement: July 17th

    Here is the link to Vote for Shannyn:
    http://democracyforamerica.com/netroots_nation_scholarships/597-shannyn-moore

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    So could it be that Scarah’s legal defense fund is really for paying IRS back taxes and fines and legal fee’s having to do more with that than ethics complaints?

    And how would we know if she actually is being or ever was audited, fined and ordered to pay back taxes? would we ever find this out if she becomes a private citizen? is there a way to find out who has ever been audited by the IRS. I have no clue, anybody have experience with this?

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    yes, and I wondered whether Scarahpac covered her flight and hotel costs. Perhaps Andrew would know is she rented a car. Are the funds spent out of the pac made public? I also wondered if someone covered the radio guy from LA when he went to NY for the letterman “protest”. Malek could be “helping”, just wondering out loud on a blog.

    “It also made me laugh because one of the Editors for one of her fan sites has traveled from Los Angeles to Anchorage and no doubt is giving Meg an earful of …what…where…when…and why’s.”

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    yes, and I wondered whether Scarahpac covered her flight and hotel costs. Perhaps Andrew would know if she rented a car. Are the funds spent out of the pac made public?

    I also wondered if someone covered the radio guy from LA when he went to NY for the letterman “protest”. Malek could be “helping”, just wondering out loud on a blog.

    “It also made me laugh because one of the Editors for one of her fan sites has traveled from Los Angeles to Anchorage and no doubt is giving Meg an earful of …what…where…when…and why’s.”

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    PepperzMom (GA)No Gravatar says:

    Given that the bailin; one was in such a hissy fit over her ex-BIL…this just takes the cake! I;ve already left my comment there…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/08/new-mexico-teen-girl-tase_n_228280.html

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    whoa, sorry for the triple post! don’t know how that happened, didn’t think it could, what happened to the duplicate message?

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    GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust ScrambleNo Gravatar says:

    Just read this

    http://alaskadispatch.com/palin-watch/1283-palin-how-she-gained-control-and-then-lost-it?start=1

    “And when she’s in over her head, Sarah’s instinct is to find a face-saving way to make her way to the nearest door marked “Exit.”"
    ——
    Personally, I’m not seeing the face-saving yet. Seems like she’s lost her credibility and become even more of a joke. Not only that, but she’s lost her power to intimidate, so I expect more and more ‘inside stories’ coming out.
    Maybe Murrow intended to let that cat out of the bag.

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    SallyNo Gravatar says:

    Palin: How she gained control and then lost it
    Donald Craig Mitchell
    Jul 9, 2009

    What got lost in all that hullabaloo is that when Tim Petumenos interviewed Sarah and Walt under oath they told flatly contradictory stories. Walt testified that Sarah had a conversation with him in Juneau during which, until he curtly told her that her doing so was legally inappropriate, she tried to raise the subject of firing Wooten. In his report, Tim stated that “Governor Palin denies that this conversation took place” and had “testified under oath that this is not a failure of recollection on her part since the nature of the conversation as described is such that she would have remembered having had it.”
    In other words, either Walt Monegan, Alaska’s former chief law enforcement officer, committed perjury. Or Sarah Palin, the Governor of Alaska, committed perjury.

    So thanks Sarah. We’ve all had a terrific time.
    Sayonara governor-girl.
    http://alaskadispatch.com/about/contributors/13/554

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    PepperzMom (GA)No Gravatar says:

    241 EyeOnYou Says: July 9th, 2009 at 10:07 AM

    In reading the Huffpo piece on the ADN confirming Sarah’s story just doesn’t add up, I noticed that someone posted this link

    http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/DocDisplay.cfm?SelectedDoc=20010228400&District=311

    It shows that the Palins have a lien against their home and the lien holders are
    WELLS FARGO BANK WEST & SPENARD BUILDERS SUPPLY

    Why is Spenard a lien holder?
    #
    242 Seagull Junker Palin Says: July 9th, 2009 at 10:10 AM

    Eye on you – whenever someone (in construction) sells to a builder/project, they file a lien against the property to guarantee they will get paid in full. Because what they supply is part of the structure, they can file on the house/project itself. Really standard op procedure with bigger jobs. Little ones, you might just trust..

    Verrrrrry simplified statement, but hopefully it makes sense.

    Re: the liens. Are these currently in place? If so…why? The house was completed years ago, correct? So again…why?

    Sounds like someone expected a bill or two to just disappear….

    TDOM: “velly intellesting”….

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    Freakout in Kansas, unless Scarah has gotten sloppy with her spinning I don’t think she’s risk anything that stupid in the world wide media. She has been busted before for one or two things fishing related, can’t remember what it was.

    But, she could have been on a giddy media high and dropped her wily guard, all those reporters and cameras. And NO MEG in town to take care of details.

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    NanNo Gravatar says:

    UK Lady (297)

    :lol:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/9/751778/-Picture-of-the-day,-so-far
    ______________________

    ROFL

    That reminds me of the time my husband walked into a door frame one time… (he hasn’t lived it down yet, either!)

    :-D

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    264 crayonsNo Gravatar says:

    207
    austintx Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 8:07 AM

    Steele dismisses Palin as �old school�: �That�s not the generation of candidates I�m trying to groom.�

    ________________

    Ummm, I think that’s a typo…surely he meant to say NO SCHOOL???

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Fairsfair Says “Was Gov. Palin or her family wearing life jackets while boating/fishing?”

    NOPE. AND just after Palin signed the bill for KIDS DON’T FLOAT…anyone want to link Huff to Piper on the water without a vest on?

    EVEN THE OTTER HAS A BIG ORANGE VEST ON TO PROMOTE SAFETY!!!

    Governor Sarah Palin, Coast Guard Admiral sign memorandum of understanding for Alaska boating safety programs

    In Alaska, drowning is the second leading cause of accidental death. Accident statistics reveal that 3 out of 4 boating fatalities were the result of capsizing or falling overboard into cold water, where the boater was not wearing a life jacket. Most had not taken a single boating safety course.
    http://uscgalaska.com/go/doc/780/283276/

    Back in Juneau where there’s never drought… Met w/Coast Guard Admiral Brooks & team incl Kids Don’t Float efforts. I’ll sign bills to …
    7:49 PM Jun 19th from TwitterBerry

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    UK LadyNo Gravatar says:

    Oh Good catch Isabella!

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    Nebraska NativeNo Gravatar says:

    OMG, I am on overload… keep it coming Puppies… maybe someone from MSM will FINALLY pay attn. BTW Time just lost a long time reader with the crap they appear to think is journalism.

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    UK Lady Says “Oh Good catch Isabella!”

    HI UK!!!!

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Have you all seen this yet?

    Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Diabetes Linked Directly to Environment

    Nitrites and nitrates belong to a class of chemical compounds that are harmful to humans and animals. More than 90 percent of these compounds that have been tested have been determined to be carcinogenic in various organs. They are found in many food products, including fried bacon, cured meats and cheese products as well as beer and water. Exposure also occurs through manufacturing and processing of rubber and latex products, fertilizers, pesticides and cosmetics.

    http://www.ivanhoe.com/channels/p_channelstory.cfm?storyid=21874

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    Nebraska NativeNo Gravatar says:

    Chat’s going on now, also, too.

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    264 crayonsNo Gravatar says:

    207
    austintx Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 8:07 AM

    Steele dismisses Palin as ‘old school’: ‘That’s not the generation of candidates I’m trying to groom.’
    …..

    Ummm, I think that’s a typo…surely he meant to say NO SCHOOL???

  320. 322
    akgrrlNo Gravatar says:

    241 EyeOnYou Says: July 9th, 2009 at 10:07 AM

    In reading the Huffpo piece on the ADN confirming Sarah’s story just doesn’t add up, I noticed that someone posted this link

    http://dnr.alaska.gov/ssd/recoff/sag/DocDisplay.cfm?SelectedDoc=20010228400&District=311

    ———————————-

    Wow. Thanks for the link, EyeOnYou. OK, I have no special knowledge of trusts or liens or any of this stuff, however …

    Looking up all the documents on the Palins, their house [ Doc.Number: 2002-016342-0], which was mortgaged w/ Wells Fargo for $290,000 on 08/01/2002, appears to have been *paid in full* [Doc.Number: 2003-002688-0, which lists 2002-016342-0 as an associated doc] (I Googled “Deed of Recon” – A reconveyance deed is an official document from a mortgage holder releasing the debtor from the mortgage. It is evidence that the mortgage has been paid in full.) on 1/31/03.

    Either they are VERY rich, or I smell something fishier than Sarah’s chest waders…

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    akgrrlNo Gravatar says:

    Wow. Thanks for the link, #241 EyeOnYou. OK, I have no special knowledge of trusts or liens or any of this stuff, however …

    Looking up all the documents on the Palins, their house [ Doc.Number: 2002-016342-0], which was mortgaged w/ Wells Fargo for $290,000 on 08/01/2002, appears to have been *paid in full* [Doc.Number: 2003-002688-0, which lists 2002-016342-0 as an associated doc] (I Googled “Deed of Recon” – A reconveyance deed is an official document from a mortgage holder releasing the debtor from the mortgage. It is evidence that the mortgage has been paid in full.) on 1/31/03.

    Either they are VERY rich, or I smell something fishier than Sarah’s chest waders…

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    akgrrlNo Gravatar says:

    yikes, sorry for the double post, was hoping to cancel one.

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    Canadian NeighbourNo Gravatar says:

    Just saw this on CNN – Cute!! Yes — a non-Palin moment
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcVllWpwGs

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    BuffaloGal (at 10:42 AM) On a lighter note: Is anyone here a fan of Stargate SG1? If so, doncha think the storyline of The Ori is sooooo third wave, New Apostolic Reformation ?? When Sarah was plunked down on to the national stage and everyone started worshiping here I got this huge hit of , “OMIGAWD! It’s Adria the Orici !!! ( gee – i do hope someone knows what I’m talking about because otherwise I just sounded entirely insane)

    Nope, you don’t sound insane. I hadn’t thought of it that way, but you’re right… scary!

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    Isabella (at 11:55 AM)–she (Piper) sure as heck should have been wearing a lifejacket (USCG and State F&G effort at docks with lifejackets to borrow–”Kids Don’t Float”). Actually, all of them should have been, down to the last camera and audio guys.

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    curiouserNo Gravatar says:

    KO with Margaret Carlson (Bloomberg) discussing Palin lying about the $2million diverting funds. Carlson went on to put to rest the other unknown….Kristan Cole told her the trust has paid off the legal bills!!!
    Yay!

  327. 329
    curiouserNo Gravatar says:

    About the AFT and paid legal bills….not a primary reason to resign but, along with the book deal, gives her additional financial resources to resign.

    And let us not forget that the trust funds can be distributed to Palin, family, and “covered” staff for personal expenses that don’t have to be disclosed.

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    Demetria Nelson-McNaultyNo Gravatar says:

    I am not shocked that Palin’s house is paid for or anything else that they own, but when the skit hit the fan I got the popcorn.

  329. 331
    curiouserNo Gravatar says:

    Ooops! My very bad. Here’s what mae lewis said on the Legislative thread:

    101 mae lewis Says:
    July 9th, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    I was just listening to Margaret Carlson’s interview on Keith Olbermann’s Countdown. She said that, according to John Coale, it was the PAC that repaid the state for the kids’ travel expenses and Sarah’s per diem charges.

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    London BridgesNo Gravatar says:

    Here is a very strange thing about Sarah’s Dr. CBJ medical record: It bears more scrutiny.
    http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2008-11/43179602.pdf
    Dr. CBJ says Sarah’s pulse was 77! Sarah says she is “A Runner.” A resting pulse of 77 tells me something is going on. I’m a runner and I am very, very slow and overweight. Yet, my resting pulse is 51. Why is Sarah’s pulse so high??????? That is not a normal pulse for a runner!

    Any ideas??

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    London BridgesNo Gravatar says:

    She said that, according to John Coale, it was the PAC that repaid the state for the kids’ travel expenses and Sarah’s per diem charges.

    How do you spell leech?

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    mmboucher FloridaNo Gravatar says:

    Piper was wearing a life vest.

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    mmboucher FloridaNo Gravatar says:

    Should have put: In the clip on KO. that he just showed Piper was wearing a life vest.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    UK Lady & others, thank you for the article in the Alaska Dispatch. Lengthy, but written by Andree’s atty. It is such a good read. SUCH A GOOD READ.

    http://www.alaskadispatch.com/palin-watch/1283-palin-how-she-gained-control-and-then-lost-it

    RE: the lien – it may have been a preliminary lien – and just put in place in case SBS was not paid. Recorded, and not necessary to remove. If it was a formal mechanic’s lien, it would be removed when they paid their bill in full.

    I think it was construction business as usual, all settled. The only thing it does show is that SBS provided building materials to the Palin’s. Paid for I’m sure. How paid – who knows. Then like empish said last night – “it’s the labor stupid” (typed with a smile – I still want more empish!!!)

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    London BridgesNo Gravatar says:

    Piper’s life jacket may not have been fastened and closed – would do no good if it fell off in the water. At least that’s how it appeared to me in the pic.

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    So many subjects!!! RE: Palin’s house paid off – anyone following poor Ensign back in the news??? Apparently they funneled it so that his parents paid off the adulteree (sp?) & her husband. There’s always a way to get $$!!!!

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    mmboucher Florida “Piper was wearing a life vest.”

    Not the entire time though.

    http://www.daylife.com/search?q=sarah+palin

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    Well, according to the last Time mag. update, if correct, Meg was in Dillingham with Scarah, so I’m sure all details needed to be correct were correct, which if you think about it, she had from Friday to Monday night to get back to AK. And I’m sure every day since Friday morning the communication on damage control was hot and heavy.

    She would not have done this without Meg, the quitting was impulsive Scarah action.

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    Canadian NeighbourNo Gravatar says:

    318 Isabella Says:
    Have you all seen this yet?

    Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s
    ———–
    You will find that many of these reports that are put out have no basis of extensive research. Many are propped up by funding by food and drugs companies. They also are looking for a name for themselves in that it attracts funding. As there is no drug to treat Alzheimers, the 3 main ones on the market are technically all experimental with their aim at the moment to just slow the progression down, I can pretty much guess it’s a drug company behind this. My experience with the 3 meds — M&Ms would have had the same affect.

    Within the story, they will set out the items they consider to be the highest risk to people — my reading the list the only one I can confirm that would be related in this house is water and even that was one glass and maybe 4 cups of coffee a day. So much for their findings in this house.

    These kinds of articles always brings me back to thinking how they so quickly toss this stuff out into the mainstream information world and in 5 years with that new found funding they’ve had, they retract it — as in, Ooops, we were wrong. Not all, but I’ve read enough of them. I’ll always remember the story of I believe red dye in drinks that they sent everyone in a tailspin and quiety produced a statement some years later — We were wrong. People stopped themselves and their kids from eating and drinking various things in panic to learn that the stuff they replaced it with was much worse for them.

    It’s the same as articles written that coffee was bad for you and don’t drink it or limit yourself to 2 cups maximum per day. Years later, the report is it’s good for you for some reason or other. Same as red wine, etc., etc.

    In otherwords — don’t believe everything you read!!!! When they give me at least 5 to 10 yrs of hard documented testing — then publish it and talk to me. Nowhere in this article do they state the length they have been testing this except for the wording “A new study” by researchers,,,,,, The articles also ends off with “If this hypothesis is correct”.

    You have to realize, any testing on Alzheimers is done on dead people in that there is no test to actually diagnose it while alive. They can only do a scan of the brain and verbal questions which sets out the memory loss/confusion being a higher lever than say anyone of us. But then, I forget where I put my car keys all the time and I know that book is around here somewhere. The verbal promptings are the way the drs. watch the disease progress as if they don’t live with it, they actually don’t have a clue. Many Drs. just pass off the forgetfullness of older people as just getting old so they forget things and therefore families aren’t prepared as the progression starts and it doesn’t get noticed until some emergency in that the person is living alone and is forgetting to turn off the stove, etc. Anyone that the doctor says has Alzheimer’s, it probably started 5 to 7 years before it was noticable so you are behind the 8 ball before you start.

    So what I’m saying is — Eat, Drink & be Merry!!

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    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Isabella – hell, NO ONE was wearing a vest in those photos. Great representative on that FGI. (Former Gov. Icon)

  341. 343
    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Anyone else get booted from the chat room?

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Canadian Neighbour Says “So what I’m saying is — Eat, Drink & be Merry!!”

    So bacon is back in….YEEEEES!

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    Seagull Junker Palin Says “- hell, NO ONE was wearing a vest in those photos. Great representative on that FGI. (Former Gov. Icon)”

    Also too Palin recently signed a boat safety bill. Seemed to me there were WAAAAAY to many people in that little “Boat” to not only NOT have life jackets but to occupy the space.

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    IsabellaNo Gravatar says:

    We move forward w/ smooth transition, Parnell keeps cabinet 100% intact http://tinyurl.com/m4mrmx
    19 minutes ago from web Vetted judge candidates today from Anch Office, 3 more judges to be announced soon to begin work for AKns interpretting law, not making law
    23 minutes ago from TwitterBerry

  345. 347
    Canadian NeighbourNo Gravatar says:

    Isabella,
    If you listened to every report that tells you this and that is bad for you, we’d be eating dirt and cardboard and breathing air. Those 3 not being safe either, we’re left with what???

  346. 348
    NanNo Gravatar says:

    Interesting article that gives an example of rumor vs fact, with a definite dose of malice.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/man-of-the-people_b_228348.html

    It would be interesting in light of the recent discussions of what determines defamation etc. (did I spell that right?)

    Nan

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    gdwyerNo Gravatar says:

    Hey folks

    Please stop over to Celtic Diva and show some support. She’s been getting very nasty emails and could use a virtual hug from all of us.

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    Canadian NeighbourNo Gravatar says:

    347 Nan
    Have always, always thought of Baldwin as a JackA, loooong before his message machine rant. This article just puts more icing on the sky high icing already on the cake. In fact — I would group his brothers in with him!!!

    If a Baldwin appears in it, I won’t watch it.

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    SlappyOCNo Gravatar says:

    So good. You must follow all four links…fantastic collection of Sarah Idiocracy.

    http://wonkette.com/409737/100-reasons-why-quitter-sarah-palin-is-americas-quittin-queen-of-dumbness

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    irinaNo Gravatar says:

    London Bridges — that’s not necessarily strange. We do know that Sarah is a runner, but it is very possible that she also has a fast resting pulse. My mother swims a mile a day (at age 86 !) but has a resting pulse of about 80. She is in very good condition and has always had a fast pulse. As do I. (Although, sorry to say there is no way I could swim a mile !). Some of that is genetic and not an indication of any health issues.

  351. 353
    AKauroraNo Gravatar says:

    Tonight’s KTUU poll:
    Should lawmakers call a special session to override Gov. Sarah Palin’s veto of $28.56 million in federal energy conservation money?

    Vote at http://www.ktuu.com

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    curiouserNo Gravatar says:

    This is getting embarrassing for me…..

    Ok folks. I just listened to Carlson on KO….AGAIN.

    I heard the Coale wrong before and thought she said Cole (as in Kristan) but the AFT part was right….legal bills paid off.

    According to Carlson, John Coale, who helped start the legal fund, says the legal fund has paid off the bills.

    Wondering….is Coale throwing Palin under the bus? Maybe he didn’t know she was a lier until he heard so many lies in the Wasilla Lawn Speech.

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Baldwin said he would leave the country if Bush got re-elected in ’04.
    And here we are listening to his blathering……….

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    austintxNo Gravatar says:

    Here is KO and Margaret Carlson. They beat her ass good.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

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    GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust ScrambleNo Gravatar says:

    Am I on the Open thread, yes!

    This is just about the tackiest thing I have ever heard.

    Ensign’s parents paid his mistress $96,000.00? Geez. What a crappy thing to stiff your parents for.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/09/ensign.affair/index.html

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    CGNo Gravatar says:

    #283 EyeOnYou – http://www.daylife.com/photo/04nAfCx6oY7IO?q=sarah+palin.
    Nice. Finally, a photo with actual crew in it. Two other people actually doing the work. We’ve seen frame after frame of just Sarah fishing away by herself…
    Pose