Open Thread – Confused Troll of the Week.
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Slogging through the usual fare of “Sarah Palin is a great lady and Obama’s a Communitst Fascist…Islamist……no good…(trails off into incomprehension) in the spam queue, I came across the following. Usually, I fling trolls mercilessly, grabbing them by their little scaly ankles, and doing the discus throw, watching them get smaller and smaller until they descend with a satisflying splat…right in the mudflats.
But this time, the poor little fellow seemed a bit confused, so I just turned him around and scooted him out the door.
“If anyone would like to make a donation to Sarah PAC you may do so through a link on my site which praises Palin on a regular basis.”
I didn’t actually include the link, because I figure if someone is bent on donating to SarahPAC, they can find it all on thier own.
No actually that is probably a grifter with a redirected url looking to grift off our grifter-in-chief… sweet. But I still wouldn’t follow the link
-Laz
Money line from Frank Rich’s Op-Ed in the NYT for Sunday:
Were Palin actually to secure the 2012 nomination, the result would be a fiasco for the G.O.P. akin to Goldwater 1964, as the most relentless conservative Palin critic, David Frum, has predicted.
And it gets worse.
Not even if I were blind . crippled and crazy. Nope!!
Maureen Dowd channels $arah Palin – again!
Sweet, Tweet Revenge
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/opinion/12dowd.html?hpw
The Space Shuttle may launch today –
The launch time for Sunday is 7:13 p.m. EDT. The weather forecast calls for a 60 percent chance of acceptable conditions.
It was struck by lightning yesterday.. well the tower next to it was.
(reposting from earlier thread … guess I’m always a day late &
(reposting from earlier thread … guess I’m always a day late & a dollar short …)
In reference to comments made on Shanny’s show –
Special Session — forgive me if I’m being naive or uninformed on AK constitutional/legislative requirements ….. but why couldn’t they have a special session by *teleconference* ?
Yes, that costs more than a few bucks too, but seems it would be much more economical. Anyone know if that’s constitutionally possible?
At least those legislators vacationing in Hawaii or out fishing would still be able to participate.
Maureen Dowd’s article today actually included a tinyurl to Peggy Noonan’s article on Sarah. Two for one deal!
ok mudflatters was fun chatting with some of you but bed time for me see you tomorrow!!!
Good idea, YBG! I don’t know the answer, but it makes sense.
How are things going up there? Did you all get the gravel?
A huge big thank you to all the Mudpups who voted for Ian for the Netroots scholarship. He is now in 2nd place behind Shannyn, with a total at the moment of 134 votes.
You guys ARE THE BEST!!
Today her tweet is a quote from Thomas Paine. Does anyone think she has any clue who Thomas Paine was? And that he would despise her religiosity??
I just read in the Fairbanks Newsminer about the picnic “Pioneer Park staff are hoping advisers will ask Palin to set aside the Naughty Monkey shoe in favor of sensible shoes more suited to slick riverboat floor and stairs” Even they know she doesn’t have enough brains to dress appropriate!! OMG-she has to climb to the upper deck to swear Parnell in-hope she wears an appropriate skirt too!!!
“Puzzled by Palin” will be a topic on Meet the Press this morning – they’re starting off McCain and will be asking him about the state of the GOP and also about this brouhaha with Cheney and the secret program
At least the little troll was polite. That’s a rarity on the Palin side of the fence.
As for Sarah and her tweetie quotes of the day, “Sarah, put down the quote book and slowly back away. really. also, too. You are embarrassing yourself. Not that you don’t do that all of the time. We realize that now you can’t even claim to be working while tweeting, but really, the quote thing isn’t working for you.”
Love this quote from Peggy Noonan:
Ouch. Whole thing is brutally honest. I’m sure the Freepers are sticking pins in their Peggy Noonan dolls today. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124716984620819351.html
Andrew Sullivan sharpened his quill for today, too: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6688848.ece
Choice quote:
Wow. Somebody got to McCain and told him to get behind Sarah again and stop hemming and hawing about supporting her. On Meet the Press he just totally backed her decision about quitting and said it was the right move. And then, when Gregory asked if McCain thought she was qualified for POTUS he did his “up n down” arm thing to accentuate his syllables and said “Ab So Looot Lee”. Then Gregory read quotes by folks in the last campaign who referred to her as a political train wreck and, when asked if McCain could go back in time and make that decision again, would he pick Palin. Once again, “AB SO LOOOOT LEE” (but this time he said it with that weird fake smile of his)
Very much a change from when he left her off of a list of possible GOP contenders for 2012 a few months ago. He was ab so loot lee gotten to and told to get back on board.
BuffaloGal: I think McCain is saving his own ass. He may be challenged in the primary and wants to have the fundy Palin base behind him. He needs them. He’s making up with Palin so she’ll come to AZ for a few rallies — or at the very least, they’ll stop skewering him on the wingnut sites for being a RINO. To the moderates, he looks like an idiot for choosing her. He has no choice but to pander to the wingnuts.
At least that’s my 2¢.
BJA –
I agree.
BuffaloGal Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 5:00 AM
Wow. Somebody got to McCain and told him to get behind Sarah again and stop hemming and hawing about supporting her. On Meet the Press he just totally backed her decision about quitting and said it was the right move. And then, when Gregory asked if McCain thought she was qualified for POTUS he did his “up n down” arm thing to accentuate his syllables and said “Ab So Looot Lee”. Then Gregory read quotes by folks in the last campaign who referred to her as a political train wreck and, when asked if McCain could go back in time and make that decision again, would he pick Palin. Once again, “AB SO LOOOOT LEE” (but this time he said it with that weird fake smile of his)
Very much a change from when he left her off of a list of possible GOP contenders for 2012 a few months ago. He was ab so loot lee gotten to and told to get back on board.
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WTF?? The GOP must want her for fund raising…
The comments on Dowd’s channeling of twitterpated Sarah seem to indicate that Palin Fatigue Syndrome is sweeping the nation. I thought Maureen was funny, but I can also appreciate the PFS and think it’s a good thing. People are just getting tired of her, feel she’s a complete waste of time, whether they are defending her or laughing at her. The sea of pee-ers should take note. They are beating a dead twit.
BJA Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 5:08 AM
BuffaloGal: I think McCain is saving his own ass. He may be challenged in the primary
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Good point, BJA. His facial expressions were great, whatever his motivation. He most certainly didn’t believe what he was saying and it was not pleasant for him to do.
NY’s own Senator Schumer’s on Meet the Press now. Saying that we can’t expect a quick fix and the economic plan is a two year plan , not a 4 month plan. It’s a long term fix that needs to be given time.
“Is Palin the future of the GOP?” Schumer dissolves into laughter. Then Gregory cuts to a photo of Schumer and Palin, side by side, in Field and Stream magazine. Cut to commercial and both guys laugh heartily.
womanwithsardinecan Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 5:11 AM
The comments on Dowd’s channeling of twitterpated Sarah seem to indicate that Palin Fatigue Syndrome is sweeping the nation. I thought Maureen was funny, but I can also appreciate the PFS and think it’s a good thing. People are just getting tired of her, feel she’s a complete waste of time, whether they are defending her or laughing at her. The sea of pee-ers should take note. They are beating a dead twit.
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LOL!
They are spouting such wisdom as: “only dead fish go with the flow”
AKM, Sounds like you should be wearing a t-shirt or sweatshirt when you do troll patrol with the saying:
“Don’t pi$$ me off-I’m running out of places to hide the bodies!”
My old sweatshirt that I loved but wore it out through use and numerous washings:
“Don’t like my ATTITUDE
Dial 1-800-EAT-S**T”
Gregory on Meet the Press just referred to still pictures of the press in the boat with Palin as: Here’s the media scrum when they were ‘fly’ fishing.
Not only when is Palin going down but please take David Gregory with her. He’s a disgrace to Meet the Press and everything Tim Russert did to build it.
Round Table Discussion on MTP –
Roger Simon – He believes that if GOP were to pick a candidate today, it would be Palin. They believe that the most sought after talent in a candidate is the ability to read flawlessly from a teleprompter a speech that someone else wrote for them.
Wow. What a low bar. Sad sad sad – but rings true.
Hi Canadian Neighbor – Nice to watch the news shows with you again. Care for some rye toast and tea ?
Sure do miss our dear Tim Russert. I believe we’ve finally renamed the one highway that runs through South Buffalo to “Tim Russert Way”. There was a nice get together at the little “Tim Russert Park” a few weeks ago. It’s right around the corner from me. I love passing it and remembering when he was here for the dedication a few years ago.
Would you hire a Quitter? $arah’s resume=reasons why you quit? Answer-people were being mean to me. Wow I think I’ll hire you, we need someone who can’t get along with fellow employees, and keeps everything riled up and walks out the door when the going gets rough. Yep Sarah, your the best applicant here, start tomorrow!!!
@BuffaloGal– now I’m craving rye toast! Guess old McPOW isn’t quite so “mavericky” these days. Sounds like he’s toeing the company line like a good little puppet.
Can you IMAGINE GINeverfinishedathinginmylife in the Presidential debates? She got away with her “not going to answer the questions, just gonna talk to the people” crap in the VP debate, but that winky-winky wouldn’t fly THREE times. Poor Sarah, too stupid to know how stupid she really is.
A one page letter on election eve for medical records won’t fly either.
“Since resigning as governor, many say Sarah Palin is now going to spend some time working on her memoirs. Alaskans are saying they can’t wait to start reading Palin’s memoirs and then quit halfway through.”
- Conan O’Brien
OMG..listening to McCain on MTP. The old fool says she is qualified to be president. This is getting more and more disgusting as the days go by. The entire NORMAL population of the US should be screaming from the hilltops and the valleys. Sickening
Bea – We’ve got a bakery here that makes THE best rye bread. They do it differently (something about an extra type of flour or something). The toast is out of this world. Add a little bit of sharp cheddar and it’s a perfect Sunday breakfast. I’m actually building their website : http://www.psbakery.southbuffalo.net
And yeah – to this day I crack up when I see the footage of her saying that she’s going to answer the questions that she wants to answer. I still remember my shock and awe when I heard it during the debates. Flabbergasted that she didn’t get called on it.
Austin – This time she’ll just submit the latest family Christmas photo and say, “See? we’re fine! Salmon slayin’ keeps ya healthy as a horse!”
Hi BuffaloGal,
Thanks for Toast & Tea!
I too miss Tim for his indepth political knowledge and more so how he would challenge his guests on their answers. He wouldn’t let their spin pass by! That doesn’t happen anymore. Even Gregory’s attempt with McCain this morning showed his inexperience even though he has been in the political reporting area for some time.
It is the one thing that boggles my mind as to your political system. It is a disservice to the citizens of the country that it is an ad nauseam political campaign. Yes the Senate and Congress have various committees and they work to pass laws and programs at some points within the time the sessions sit. But they are so entrenched in campaign mode, the interest to work on behalf of the citizens is secondary.
Our election system here is not the best either, but our campaign for Prime Minister is usually 8 weeks. They can be as little as 36 days by law. Spending by parties is strictly limited by the Elections Act. No primaries.
Given a choice — I’ll take mine.
BuffaloGal –
You mean this pic. ??
http://www.palindeception.com/blog/uploaded_images/Christmas2007photo-795115.gif
Thank you Zyggy and others for live blogging Shannyn’s show. I just was able to read them this morning so I couldn’t comment on that thread, thanks again…
austintx Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 5:48 AM
A one page letter on election eve for medical records won’t fly either.
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just to see her get properly vetted would make it worth it for her to run. she things she is being picked on now she has seen nothing yet
BuffaloGal Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 5:58 AM
Bea – We’ve got a bakery here that makes THE best rye bread. They do it differently (something about an extra type of flour or something). The toast is out of this world. Add a little bit of sharp cheddar and it’s a perfect Sunday breakfast. I’m actually building their website : http://www.psbakery.southbuffalo.net
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OK, now your just TAUNTING me.
I love bread and cheese I’m trying to swear off both for a few weeks so I can fit into my dress for an upcoming wedding. Oh, the humanity!
As for GINoactualideawhothesepeopleIamquotingare, she whines and whines about her treatment in the media, but in face-to-face interviews she is ALWAYS treated with kid gloves and gets away with murder (and not just of the English language!)
Bea and austintx – absolutely ! If she thinks she got mauled by the media during 2008, wait until she sees what would be waiting for her if she is at the TOP of the ticket in 2012 !
It will be “no holds barred” from the media, the Democrats, and all other Republicans in the primary ! Everything will be fair game: taxes, medical records, records of previous experience, education, proven lies; you name it, it will be uncovered and dissected with a fine tooth comb !
WAY too many skeletons in her closet for her to let that happen – WAY TOO MANY !!
The GOP will use the Twitter Quitter for there sacrificial lamb, even McCain is getting in on the act, since she loves the spotight and $$$$ she’ll jump in with her eyes closed.
Austintx – o nooo. I’m sure she would never again use THAT one!
Canadian Neighbour (forgot the Canadian “u” earlier ) I agree – Our campaigning process is disgusting. The waste of time, money, air time, etc makes me ill. The political ads and sniping put the spotlight on some of the very worst in human nature.
I’m not as familiar with the Canadian process as I should be. My Grandmother and her family are Canadian (the ones that are left, anyway) and as a kid my Gram used to tell me that it was part of my lineage and wanted me to get a dual citizenship. I loved the idea but my Mom wouldn’t allow it. I do carry with me though the very Canadian way of saying “sorry” and “tomorrow”. My “about” is not quite so telling but it’s there. I do love being so close to the border but I don’t visit as much since it’s a hassle to cross. Where are you located ?
Just a nit. I think you mean “hammer throw” for the trolls, not “discus throw”. They spin so much better and go farther. Hope that the time off was pleasant.
“you’re” not “your” — GAH Palintyping strikes again!
BuffaloGal,
For a quick read like cliff notes, here’s the Wiki page on Elections in Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Canada
On the fringe of Toronto. On the flip side, I too will not be in U.S. now as I have no passport to cross and have no desire to pay the fee so I can spend a weekend shopping. Used to go down to get my chocolate supplies at Candymakers at Union & Gennessee when I did craft shows.
McCain’s was eviscerated in the VF article for his sloppy choice of Palin. McCain has all but confirmed that he believes Palin is a whack job in earlier post-election statements, validating the fact that he failed to vet her in the first place. McCain finally realized that trashing Palin also trashes his legacy, so he has to backtrack on his claims she is unqualified.
I hope that all the Arizona mudpuppies get busy–it’s time for McCain to go!
Canadian Neighbour,
I would take your system, too. When I read that the AK legs talked about impeaching Palin a while back and then they didn’t do it because they didn’t want to rile her base, I was infuriated. Not a one of them had the gumption to do what was right by the AK people. They are serving their own self-interest.
Of course, this happens everywhere in the U.S. and like genuine, meaningful, health-care reform, I don’t see a snowball’s chance in heck that we will have any sort of meaningful election reform in my lifetime.
This is why we need some sort of campaign finance reform. Politicians are constantly campaigning and trying to raise funds for the Next campaign. Nothing gets done. Look how the Republicans in Congress voted no except for a couple on the..what was it? the budget? stimulus funds? It doesn’t matter, everyone votes with the party, if you don’t, you know you won’t be getting as much funding later on, or help on something you want done. (Gingrich leadership lives on)
Canada has limits on just about everything when it comes to campaigning. Time alloted for broadcasting, amount that can be donated by individuals, by the candidates themselves. The amount of time that you can campaign, there is a start date and an end date. It seems to work out alright and I like the limits. We aren’t swamped by crap all the time and can watch the fun of arguments on the floor and officials who say dumb things with a microphone near by try to back peddle on those dumb things. Fun all around.
@Canadian Neighbour…as a fellow Canadian, I agree. As screwy as our government can be sometimes…( the foolishness in the House of Commons done oh so politely too) I am grateful for our election system. We are not constantly inundated with pols who are on the stump.
I honestly don’t know how american politicians get anything done, when they are only concerned about elections 2 or 4 years down the road. There is constant fundraising, and perhaps if that were to change other things would too.
When I think of all the Americans with no job..no health insurance and in many cases not able to feed their families, the idea of billions raised to run in an election is stomach turning.
There was a fabulous article written in Rolling Stone magazine last fall about John McCain. It is long, but it is well worth the read. It will give you an entirely different perspective on the self-proclaimed maverick’s motives.
“This is the story of the real John McCain, the one who has been hiding in plain sight. It is the story of a man who has consistently put his own advancement above all else, a man willing to say and do anything to achieve his ultimate ambition: to become commander in chief, ascending to the one position that would finally enable him to outrank his four-star father and grandfather.”
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
Morning pacos_gal,
Care to toss a Krispy Kreme into the east wind? LOL!! I miss my under 5 minutes away from there for my treats!!
lol@paco….it is fun listening to one of our ministers refer to another as the
“honourable…idiot from…such and such” Our sense of decorum is hysterically funny sometimes.
“Sigh” I get frustrated, but I love my country and my government system. We need changes too…but they will happen
Can someone help me catch up? Life interrupted my continuous observation of Drama Palin, has she ever given a reason for her resignation? Or is she still simply claiming that she has gave her reasons, without actually giving them?
Unrelated questions, what’s with Karen Hughe’s extreme makeover debuted on MTP? Would it be a Spiritual Act of Mercy to let her know Tang colored hair clashes with teal button earrings?
Finally, I don’t know if Homemade Boatgate was ever resolved, but there were still pictures of the boat on MTP today. Although the first set of numbers were obliterated, some spray painted numbers were legible. What could be seen read: SN61883R.
LOL Krispy Kreme’s at you, but I can’t have one, just heading out the door for brunch date. See you all when I get back!
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/palin-watch/74-how-palin-turned-on-her-own-party-and-became-governor
Found this gem on the Alaska Dispach website.
This was written in 2006.
Look at how the describe Palin back then.
Look at the flack the editor got for describing Palin to a ‘T”.
Interesting that some of the republicans back then ‘got it about’ Palin and her lack of smarts and work ethics back then.
She really was a pretty face in a skirt all along.
Judy – I LOVE that Rolling Stone article! I read it so many times. It really does put a glaring light on the real John McCain and I’ve never looked at him the same way since.
Canadian Neighbour – Started to read the wiki but it made my head hurt. I’ve been up since 2am and actually found myself accidentally getting caught up in a Mudflats live chat from 3 till 6:30 this morning. I’m going to save that reading until after a good nap!
Both adult children are here and are being rambunctious. I’m trying to talk them into going to the downtown “Taste of Buffalo” food festival so I can have a quiet day of working on the new Palin site. (by the by , thanks to the folks that offered to be beta viewers! The feedback is really helpful )
Oh! Funny story that Mudflats and Palin brought about :
I’ve been working on Palin stuff and reading the blogs tooo much lately and have been ignoring the work I need to keep up with on my own newspaper. So, I put Palin aside the other day and decided to catch up with clients, do some cold calling, update the site,etc.
Well, just because I was physically doing the work didn’t mean that my mind wasn’t still on Palin and whatnot. At one point I was on the phone with someone who decided he was interested in possibly advertising on the news site. He took me by surprise so I had to shift into sales person gear. I start giving him pricing, site stats, etc while also remaining laid back so as not to push him too soon. We’re winding up the conversation and I’ve got a billion things running through my head at once which included the question of , “what’s the best way to end the chat? should i say goodbye casually? be more professional? mention the sale one more time? ,etc” I was also running on next to no sleep for days.
Well, comes the moment to say either, “ok have a great day” , or “i’ll follow up with you soon”, or any of a dozen appropriate closing remarks. But instead what comes out was (and for the love of all that is good and holy I don’t have the first clue how it happened) and I quote:
“Ok! Dinky Doo!” and i hung up.
I sat there for a long, long, long moment hearing it like a trailing off echo in my head. My daughter is quiet as well and then says, with the oddest expression, “uh mom? why did you just say …… dinky doo to a client ? ”
Then we both split a gut laughing and I gave up work for the rest of the day.
CanadianN……”But they are so entrenched in campaign mode, the interest to work on behalf of the citizens is secondary.”
I totally agree with you, everyone must be so sick of this bickering and posturing, I know I am, people are going to tune out, they deserve more than this crap. If it weren’t for me being freaked out about Scarah, I’d be dang sure ignoring their BS. Right now I hate the republican party, pathetic little snakes.
I thought the NY Senator did a way better job than McSame in voicing his opinion. McSame sounded just like Scarah and Parnell! what is it with those who say “after talking to her I understand and this is okay, it is what she should do. What the F is she saying to them, that they go, oh now I get it? Why does is make sense to them after she explains it? why doesn’t it make sense when she explains it to us through the media? GAH Did she threaten him with saying something about him? wouldn’t surprise me.
I also thought Andrea M did a pretty good job, but would have loved more nitty gritty details. I did think the joke about carrying waders in her purse was good. Palin, such a whack job.
Ralph Reed wants back in
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/stories//2009/07/12/ralph_reed_comeback.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab
Buffalogal, we all need a zen cleansing and some rest, lol. But laughter is very good therapy.
“This is why we need some sort of campaign finance reform.”
It’s about to get way worse than it already is…
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2009/07/corporate-america-corporatizing-america.html
Canadian Neighbour Says:
On the fringe of Toronto.
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Waving from the south shore of the lake!!!
“What the F is she saying to them, that they go, oh now I get it?”
Nothing. She just flashes her “sex appeal” and they are pinned like a bug in an insect collection.
Just as dead too…
BuffaloGal Says: “Dinky Doo”
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That is too funny! Thanks for sharing. The blogs (interesting ones) can really mess with ones mind. During the campaign, I was involved in the BO website, and filling my bath water at the same time. Needless to say, the water ended up overflowing – almost into the hallway. I reported it on the blogs, and other bloggers chimed in on burned pizza, and not taking their dogs on their walks which ended up in dinky doo, too.
Just hit the threads here… watching George S.
Does anybody know what NBC Show that Levi showed up on? Are there some comments or quotes somewhere?
Or did he travel somewhere to be on a Show on Monday.
Whatever happened to that interview with Levi on NBC? Or is that tomorrow’s Today Show?
This was a perceptive comment to Frank Rich’s piece in todays NYT.
“Certainly Alaska is not a “microcosm of America”, but it is more diverse than Mr. Rich implies. According to the AK Dept. of Labor and Workforce Development, over 16% of the population is Native American. Black and hispanic proportions are indeed small, but due to the Native population the white proportion is less than the national average. Generally speaking, Alaska Natives have strong ties to the land and have contributed very significantly to conservation and environmental protection.”
And is that a GREAT cartoon accompanying Rich’s piece, or what??!!
[oh. please, tell me I'm not the only one here old enough to remember Dr. Strangelove]
“She Broke The GOP, and Now She Owns It”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/opinion/12rich.html
Over at Huffington, $arah says her son Track is not a rep during an interview with Wp from her office yesterday! One smart Palin unless he is an “AIP”.
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BuffaloGal Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:04 AM
“Judy – I LOVE that Rolling Stone article! I read it so many times. It really does put a glaring light on the real John McCain and I’ve never looked at him the same way since. ”
Me, too, BuffaloGal. The ONLY time during the campaign when I thought John McCain FINALLY put his own self-interest in second place was when he told some woman at a town hall meeting that Obama was not a muslim.
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“(and for the love of all that is good and holy I don’t have the first clue how it happened) and I quote:
“Ok! Dinky Doo!” and i hung up. ”
ROFLMBO! Good thing I was done with my coffee! By the by, did you get the client?
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BuffaloGal,
I think you are going to bust the guts of some of us here — I did!! That’s hilarious!!! You do realize your next conversation with that person, you will be tongue tied. Now to find something it sounds like in order to explain they must have heard you wrong should they bring it up!! And I don’t mean from the kids show Mr. Rogers – Skinamarinky-Doo!!
But then you could explain that you had a little one tugging on your leg asking what was said on the TV show they were watching and you just answered them which made it sound like it was part of their conversation!!
Good Luck!!
mmboucher Florida Says “Over at Huffington, $arah says her son Track is not a rep”
Looks like Track drew the short straw. Good Lord it is official Palin has now EXPLOITED every member of her immediate clan for a headline!!!
Ah – another NYT comment with the YouTube clip from the end of Dr. Strangelove:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgHSDa2Jwqc&NR=1
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwww!!!!
Oh brother………….when does it stop ??
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/12/palin-my-own-son-isnt-a-r_n_230176.html
Morning all!
RE: John McCain supporting Palin…….he HAS to…..choosing $arah for VP is his defining failure. Was not “country first”. If he admits that mistake, he’s done. Now, most people realize that without him saying it, but he just can’t say it. Lie, lie & deny.
“Dinky doo” – ???
ROFLOL
Maybe you can pass it off as “thankee, too.” If it should come up, that is. lol
See infrastructure @ work today: free Port of Anch tour (transport stop for nearly 85% of all AK goods); show your kids how we import/export
1 minute ago from TwitterBerry
Palin is DESPERATE and it is showing!!!
Poor old fool.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/12/mccain-palin-selection/
From Huffington, SP Quote:
“I will go around the country on behalf of candidates who believe in the right things, regardless of their party label or affiliation,” she said over lunch in her downtown office, 40 miles from her now-famous hometown of Wasilla — population 7,000 — where she began her political career.
“People are so tired of the partisan stuff — even my own son is not a Republican,” said Mrs. Palin, who stunned the political world earlier this month with her decision to step down as governor July 26 with 18 months left in her term.
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IF she does campaign for other parties, it’ll be interesting to see what party wants her. Remember, Lisa Murkowski, was hesitant when SP said she was going to fund raise for her.
To also hear them continue on the Sunday shows of talking about the confirmation hearings of Judge Sotamayor starting tomorrow — the cherry picking of which poll they quote.
As Whoopi Goldberg said this week (even though it is the different spelling and represents an object):
Poles (polls) should be for dancing!!!
I agree – as they cherry pick a poll like the flavor of the day — that one that best fits their talking points. So many of these politicians have skewed things for so long, they actually believe what they say. They think the citizens are the stunned ones. Joke was on them this past election as the old reliable play book didn’t work.
Furthermore, what are the “right things” ??!! “Right” to HER. (yikes)
Here is a link to that article at Huffpo from the Washington Times.It should dampen the spirits of her base considerably,but we all know it won’t.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/12/palin-stump-conservative-democrats/
73 Isabella Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:41 AM
See infrastructure @ work today: free Port of Anch tour (transport stop for nearly 85% of all AK goods); show your kids how we import/export
1 minute ago from TwitterBerry
Palin is DESPERATE and it is showing!!!
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Who was it just a few posts up who said something like “why does she always have to bring children into it?” Look! She did it again!
‘Cause that’s the fist thing I think about when I think about ports, and shipping, and trade …. teaching the kids doncha know.
Cue Twitter with something about the troops in 5 …. 4 …. 3 …
Can’t say this aspect of her behaviour isn’t open and transparent – I sure see right through it, and it’s as disgusting as politicians kissing babies.
“I didn’t actually include the link, because I figure if someone is bent on donating to SarahPAC, they can find it all on thier own.”
Crazy Creepy INSANE I still get shivers over yesterday being thisclose to a Palin FREAK. I have met people before that voted for her or “Liked” her (Until I told them the truth) but yesterday I meet one of her zombies & DAYMN….COLD CHILLS!!!
Palin: My Own Son Isn’t A Republican http://bit.ly/xsCA9
. . .so I’m thinkin’ he must be following Dad’s political “Track” as a member of AIP?
austintx Says:
Oh brother………….when does it stop ??
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/12/palin-my-own-son-isnt-a-r_n_230176.html
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Anything to keep her in the media lense.
If she’s a floater for anyone and everyone — send her here!! I haven’t had a good feast for a while!! Just keep my secret about when I bite (rabies!!) LOL!!!
“I’m not ruling out anything – it is the way I have lived my life from the youngest age,” she said. “Let me peek out there and see if there’s an open door somewhere. And if there’s even a little crack of light, I’ll hope to plow through it.”
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Dear Lower ’48: I’m so sorry that she is heading down to you all.
BuffaloGal:
I’m an Alaskan, but my Mom was born and raised in Tonawanda, New York.
I’ve never been there, but she loved it there, and went back quite often after all of us kids left home.
The rye bread with cheese sounds good – a nice sharp New York cheddar, I hope, with a steaming mug of Earl Grey for me.
I love Sunday mornings!
Third party – that’s where she wants to go. AIP/Tea Baggers.
Just video your first “rally” and show to the nation!
BuffaloGal Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:04 AM
Judy – I LOVE that Rolling Stone article! I read it so many times. It really does put a glaring light on the real John McCain and I’ve never looked at him the same way since.
Before the Rolling Stone article on McCain, I read an article by a journalist in Arizona who had been following McCain’s career from the day he moved to Arizona to enter politics. The bottom line is that without Cindy’s vast fortune and political contacts, John McCain would have always been a has-been former military pilot who never succeeded at anything. This author also explained the myth of McCain’s being a “maverick” to a “T”. Bottom line is that he talked the talk but never walked the walk.
President Obama is not living up to my expectations, but I still thank god every day that McCain didn’t win. I shudder to think where this country would be with McCain as President.
Terpsichore Says “Who was it just a few posts up who said something like “why does she always have to bring children into it?” Look! She did it again!”
Always is right. Also too Palin was up in arms about not telling who she voted for OR if she supported Ted Stevens saying one of the sacred privileges of being an American is your political affiliations.
Now Track how much you wanna bet Track did not call home nor did Palin emergency him a call to ask permission to say ANYTHING about his political views? How much you wanna bet the kid is not even registered to vote?
Isabella Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:56 AM
Terpsichore Says “Who was it just a few posts up who said something like “why does she always have to bring children into it?” Look! She did it again!”
My bigger beef is that she brings our soldiers into every conversation. It’s like she thinks she somehow owns all our soldiers and their welfare is dependent upon her. It’s really creepy. If you took our soldiers and children out of her vocabulary, she would have absolutely nothing to say.
I usually feed the trolls to the regular visitors.
They seem to enjoy debating them or eviscerating them, whichever one is called for.
AKM is so much more civilized then I am.
Good Morning…McCain still stiking up for Sarah…Wha a piece of work he is…I think he’s in a situation where if he bad mouths her oo much more will come out of all the dirty little eeds she did and said…I hope his political career goes in the crapper…JMHO
TBNTJudy Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:29 AM
Good thing I was done with my coffee! By the by, did you get the client?
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As a matter of fact, I did! My daughter and discussed it and agreed that he hung up the phone with a puzzled look and wondered, “Did she just say ** dinky doo ** ? ” and would’ve come to a conclusion of , “of COURSE she didn’t cuz that would be insane”. So, when I followed up I just launched right into, “hey John, How’re ya? Good talkin’ the other day” , and so all was well.
It has become the new “goodbye” phrase for me and Marlee. She just left with my son to go to the food festival and called out, “ok mom – DINKY doo !”
Canadian Neighbour – I know – Skinamarinky always goes thru my head too.
I mentioned to someone here that a few years ago I had a freakish blood pressure spike due to this “healthy” tea that I had been drinking by the gallons during a house move. It had some herb in it that , for some people, will cause blood pressure to rise. Well mine climbed to an insane 205 over 185 and I ended up in the ER. Ended up having a transitory stroke. Scary but all turned out well and there were no complications EXCEPT that , to this day, I have brain misfirings occasionally.
The first time it was noticed was a month or so after the ER. I was walking to the kitchen and was asking my daughter if she’d like something to eat and was rattling off options. It went something like, ” do you want a sandwich ? juice? what about a potassium stick? ”
I stopped, realizing that something wasn’t quite right but not entirely understanding what it was. Marlee sat quietly, just looking, waiting for some sort of explanation. A few moments later she quietly queries, “ummm….. potassium stick?”
I was looking at the bananas on the counter and somehow my brain used that phrase instead of the word banana. I’m thinking that the brain being in overdrive brought on one of those misfirings and it just grabbed some sounds that happened to be close by to use instead of a standard, “goodbye”.
Other instances have been “cold mover” for snow blower and “little talk” for whisper. Being as I don’t have any other worrisome things to deal with I look at this one as rather fascinating. Besides that, it’s just plain good for a hearty guffaw!
$arah Palin’s boasting that she is going to travel all around the country and stump for just about anyone running for elected office, implying that she is so important and critically needed by just about anyone, because, in her irrational and narcissistic mind, she has the “midas touch,” astonishingly ignores the reality that she lost the last time she ran for elective office.
Contrary to $arah Palin’s boasting, nobody wants her “midas touch” for the obvious reason that she is persona non grata. “Calling someone persona non grata is to say that he or she is ostracized, so as to be figuratively nonexistent.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_non_grata
Extra Sharp White Cheddar (aged 12 months) for me ! Gotta be EXTRA SHARP !
Try the Salt Rising Bread too !
I get mine down the road from me at Cuba Cheese Shoppe – they ship internationally too !
http://www.cubacheese.com/
Diane, thank you for that link to the AK Dispatch article. You might enjoy this piece from Andrew Halcro on his time with SP on the campaign trail. It, like the article you linked, is very telling.
‘”As we talked about the campaign, Sarah Palin made a comment I’ll never forget.
“Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers and yet when asked questions you spout off facts, figures and policies and I’m amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, does any of this really matter.”‘
http://www.andrewhalcro.com/retro_blog_time_to_take_a_stand
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This is the real SP. She has shrewd, primal instincts about her base; they, and a whole lot of other Americans, don’t give a rat’s behind about facts and figures because they, like SP, either cannot comprehend them, or they are too intellectually lazy to try. They are easily led around by their noses by politicians like SP because she makes them feel as if she truly understands them and their needs. And she does; they just want someone to mouth the easily understood platitudes to which they relate.
I think SP knows that she has no future in politics as Gov, POTUS, etc. However, she has a huge future as one to rally the troops for other politicians of her ilk. I believe that is her higher calling. I really, really, believe that she wants to ensure that her religious values are foisted on the rest of us around the world through gaining control of government power.
Along the way, she can and will enrich herself, just like many other high-profile evangelicals. Her Achilles’ heel is her narcissism, and it may well be her undoing, similar to Jim Bakker. It is also the reason she resigned, I think. She needs and feeds on the crowd adulation, and when the press, the blogs, and the ethics complaints filers started pointing out that the empress had no clothes, she couldn’t take it.
I think a huge I.R.S. problem is in her future because she believes she is invincible. JMHO.
Oops – shipping available in the “lower 48″ only- sorry !
Also, Broadway market in Buffalo has a ‘triple-extra sharp’ cheese that is out of this world !
88 katiebegood Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:58 AM
Isabella Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:56 AM
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It’s like she thinks she somehow owns all our soldiers and their welfare is dependent upon her. It’s really creepy. If you took our soldiers and children out of her vocabulary, she would have absolutely nothing to say.
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Oh, it’s even worse than that. She uses children (especially her own) and soldiers as human shields for her positions – if you are against her position, QED (in her logic) you must be against kids (or our troops). Then by extension you are a despicable human being and unAmerican, and she can dismiss your opinion without giving it any consideration, ’cause to Sarah, you are either for her or against her – her color spectrum seems to include only two colors
It’s the same kind of thing the far Righties are trying to do in Anchorage over ordinance …. 64 is it? They try to frame it simply as “If you support it, you must be degenerate”. I HATE being told things like “If you believe in Evolution, you must be a God-hating atheist”, “if you vote for Obama, you must be a Communist-loving facist” or whatever. Makes me crazy.
How anyone can actually enjoy getting those stupid tweets from her I will never understand.
96 NY Dem Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:10 AM
I’m originally from upstate NY near Lake George, and our favorite was and still is toasted english muffin with New York sharp cheddar and peanut butter!
Miss Demeanor Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 7:52 AM
BuffaloGal:
I’m an Alaskan, but my Mom was born and raised in Tonawanda, New York.
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I lived in the Kenmore/Tonawanda area for 10 years when my kids were young. It’s a lovely township. Nothing much to be of interest if you’re visiting but a really nice place to live.
Re: which candidates would want Palin to campaign for them – My theory is that whoever she is campaigning for will undoubtedly be of the same “taking over the world for Jesus” movement that she’s in. They’re not too concerned with what label they have on them. It’s all about getting as many as possible into any of the 7 areas of cultural influence that they’re always talking about and they’ll do it any way possible, even if it means wearing a dem. hat in public. I’m tossing my two cents in that if we scratch the surface of any candidate she aligns with, we’ll find an apostolic movement follower.
katiebegood said: “The bottom line is that without Cindy’s vast fortune and political contacts, John McCain would have always been a has-been former military pilot who never succeeded at anything. This author also explained the myth of McCain’s being a “maverick” to a “T”. Bottom line is that he talked the talk but never walked the walk.”
He would not have been the has-been former military pilot, either, without his father’s and grandfather’s military connections. Any lesser mortal in the military would have been kicked out pronto for his exploits.
NY DEM ?? You speak of the Broadway Market?? You know of this ?? Did I miss seeing that you are from Buffalo ?
And yes – it’s all about a good ny sharp cheddar and hearth baked bread!
Judy – I agree with you entirely about Palin’s motivations. My opinion is planted squarely and directly right there. It’s all about this movement and they do feel they’re invisible. I’m really looking forward to reading that book about the house on C Street, “The Family”. I have a feeling we’re going to start learning quite a bit about these folks that have been flying under the radar since the 80′s.
Gryphen, Eviscerating a troll can be fun . . but then you’re left with cleaning up all that slime that oozes from the entrails as you drag their little bodies across the floor and fling them down the porch steps. Personally I like to have a few billy goats hanging around just to head butt them before the trolls can get on the porch. But there’s always Magic Eraser. . .
I must say, I have to applaud anyone who wants to serve as an elected politician. I so much love my privacy (and independence). I work in the community (charity, non-profit, business, network), and then it’s so nice to find some solitude, after all the smiles, handshakes, and being on one’s toes all day. I can’t imagine being under the microscope constantly.
NYHawk, sadly the American collective memory is short. It won’t be long before she is valuable again, and in some circles, she still is. Gov. Perry comes to mind, as does Saxby Chambliss.
Remember when Newt was persona non grata? Even Ted Kennedy was for a while.
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BuffaloGal said: “They’re not too concerned with what label they have on them. It’s all about getting as many as possible into any of the 7 areas of cultural influence that they’re always talking about and they’ll do it any way possible, even if it means wearing a dem. hat in public. I’m tossing my two cents in that if we scratch the surface of any candidate she aligns with, we’ll find an apostolic movement follower.”
Amen!
Polly – We are soul mates! I, also, too – couldn’t imagine living without my privacy. I can be tactful, pleasant, helpful, considerate for just so long! Have you ever had to grin so long that when you stop your jaw aches and cheek muscles ache?
Ok sorry if this gets posted multiple times… don’t know why it’s not posting — perhaps it is the cuss word in the blog post title. So instead go to the main page. It’s the first post at the top…
Linkage found between the infamous Rev. Murthee and one of Sarah Palin’s recent judicial appointees:
http://omfgalaska.blogspot.com/
-Laz
Excellent editorial in the 7-11 Fairbanks News Miner written by Managing Editor of FDNM Rod Boyce. He says that for for seven months the editorial board has been trying to get Miss Sarah to speak with them, with no success.
Had just written a column to that effect before her ‘lame duck’ speech and so didn’t bother publishing it. The column he DID publish was pithy and spot on.
(Such a surprise for the paper we often call the news-minus !)
Quote : “The real reason Gov. Palin won’t talk is because we and others she won’t talk to actually ask questions that challenge her ideas. She can’t take criticism or anything close to it. . . the last time she appeared in our office was in December for a session consumed largely by comments from people accompanying her. She displayed the same reluctance to talk in an earlier session, PREFERRING INSTEAD TO ASK THOSE AROUND HER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.” (caps are mine, that is an important observation).
Polly Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:24 AM
I must say, I have to applaud anyone who wants to serve as an elected politician. I so much love my privacy (and independence). I work in the community (charity, non-profit, business, network), and then it’s so nice to find some solitude, after all the smiles, handshakes, and being on one’s toes all day. I can’t imagine being under the microscope constantly.
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It seems that Palin asks for it.
“Look at me & how special I am & how special my family is.”
She cant even quit her job without asking MSM to come along fishing with her…
Here in NY, Our governor is under a lot of scrutiny for his job performance. I know nothing about his family and he doesn’t talk about it.
It boils down to this, she WANTS the attention, but she wants it to be all positive and uncritical.
Morning all. If you didn’t catch Rachel Maddow’s segment about the house on “C Street” – actually a church, and home to seven Republican members of congress – it’s a story worth watching. Seems the good Christians involved, known as The Family, regard Hitler and Pol Pot as two examples of men who knew how to properly wield power – Jesus’ way.
Rachel Maddow – Washington’s Secretive Religious Power Sect
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#31857408
tigerwine – Or, bite your tongue, while thinking – what a moron? – or something like that?! I guess we all find our ways to “serve” and mine is a bit of a community organizer, being on a non-profit board, and making systems changes from the grassroots sector.
DrChill – So true (re:Palin), but that’s how she is “wired.” Too bad she can’t put it to good use, or have a conscience, intelligence, wisdom and experience.
There are definitely nuts in politics. No argument there!
irina, I have watched some of the interviews she has given about AK policies, and she is solidly defensive and irritated, doesn’t want to answer questions herself, and always has her staff answer questions.
As for all the discussion about triple-sharp cheddars and fabulous breads, you all have made me hungry, and I have already had breakfast.
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Greytdog said: “Personally I like to have a few billy goats hanging around just to head butt them before the trolls can get on the porch. But there’s always Magic Eraser. . .”
More good humor. Thanks for the giggle!
Thanks C Mudpup – I was going to be looking for that today.
For those of you who are interested in this movement I am putting a news site together. A few fine Mudpuppies have offered to be beta viewers to give me feedback. I should be launching it soon. For those of you who are really REALLY into this stuff and who have good bookmarked info or book suggestions, please contact me by PM on the forum or at PalinNews at geee mail you know the rest.
Off to see the Maddow piece. Thanks again! I listened to a great NPR interview with the author and was left really hungry for more. Can’t wait to read the book.
Is anyone else discouraged that the system in place that citizens use to hold politicians that have power over them seems to be broken? It is a joke, useless, Sarah Palin has made a mockery of this tool and shown the people they have no power whatsoever except at the polls. I think I now can honestly say, I despise Sarah Palin.
I also think the very people who have the responsibility to uphold the ethics laws have failed miserably at their job and they should be ashamed of themselves. They have done a disservice to the people they are supposed to protect and work for. Finding a loophole in order to get Scarah off every ethics complaint is wrong. Where is the fairness and balance. The merit of each one of those complaints is totally ignored.
I for one feel powerless and defeated. Is that what our politicians want people to feel and think? They allow Palin to make a mockery of something that is supposed to work. Well in Alaska the ethics complaint system is defunct, it is broken, politicians have stood by and allowed it to be a joke.
mmboucher Florida
NYDem
BuffaloGal
I grew up on a farm in Hamburg, New York and eventually settled in Jamestown, NY. I moved to AK 15 years ago. I rode in the truck to the Broadway Market with my grandfather every summer morning at 5 AM! I went to High School & College in Buffalo. I really love Western New York and pine for a real Sahlen’s hot dog at Ted’s, a Fish Fry or Beef on Weck from Schwabels, and please God, before I die can I please have a bottle of Weber’s mustard!
BuffaloGal,
I read an article a year or two ago about this group on C Street. It was written by a journalist who infiltrated The Family as sort of an acolyte. I don’t know if it is the same guy who is writing the book, but the article (which I cannot find) made my hair stand on end. He said that The Family have connections with politicians throughout the world, and visiting dignitaries regularly come to the house on C Street.
What really gets my gall is that even Obama is bowing to them by attending their prayer breakfast. Clinton did, too, but Hillary refused to go. Good for her!
Closet Mudpup –
I posted this back on the 26th of June , and then again the other nite. There is also a NPR interview with the guy that RM had on. Can’t remember who linked that also. califpat also is watching this group. These are some creepy people.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/25/AR2009062504480.html
NY Dem Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:06 AM
Extra Sharp White Cheddar (aged 12 months) for me ! Gotta be EXTRA SHARP !
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I’m with you on that.
I’m partial to having it between 2 triscuits, with a nice course ground mustard.
Morning Mudpups….
NYDem… We have been receiving Cuba Cheese as a Xmas gift for many years.
Traveled to Cuba NY this spring from AK my when husbands brother passed away. We brought a whole suitcase back to AK filled with treasures from the Cuba Cheese Shop.
106 irina Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Excellent editorial in the 7-11 Fairbanks News Miner written by Managing Editor of FDNM Rod Boyce. He says that for for seven months the editorial board has been trying to get Miss Sarah to speak with them, with no success.
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irina……. I read that story yesterday when someone linked it. Bottom line… she just refused to talk to the Press because she would be afraid to answer the questions..OR didn’t have the answers. Maybe BOTH…. which is probably true. I remember those YouTube clips of some Leg. Session and every time she would get a question she would say ” I’ll let my….( fill in the blank Cabinet member ) answer that question”. So transparent.
And if you look at the ‘ comments ‘ under the story it must have been a slow day at the ” $arah-site “. Most of the regulars were all there with multiple postings and all bashing the News Miner for writing a negative story about their Idol. Typical, standard behavior for them.
Funny piece from Wired on the dubious wisdom of
resigning:
http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2009/07/sarah-palins-new-normal/
katiebegood (or) BuffaloGal (?)
…President Obama is not living up to my expectations, but I still thank god every day that McCain didn’t win. I shudder to think where this country would be with McCain as President.
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President Obama is not living up to my *hopes* but is living up to my expectations. Of course, my “expectation” was that (almost) anything would be a step up from what we’d had just previous.
Then too, it’s only been what – 5 or 6 months. One-eighth of the term. We’ve got another 3 1/2 years left in this term.
Suchanut – I knew of your Buffalo connection but not about the Broadway Market. SUCH a fabulous place with so much history. So many times it’s come neigh on closing down but thankfully, we’ve always rallied and it’s been saved. Recently it’s been doing pretty well and has had a makeover. http://www.broadwaymarket.com
I missed mmboucher Florida’s connection – are you from here too?
A Salen’s hotdog on a charcoal grill is one of the joys of summer. I only indulge once or twice during the season but man…it’s something else. Schwabel’s beef on weck is amazing. I don’t think weck rolls are known much outside of the area but it’s a large oven baked roll that is sprinkled with kosher salt and caraway seeds towards the end of the baking which creates a very salty, savory, crunchy crust but the inside is very soft and fluffy. You then slice these and pile them high with tender roast beef that’s done to a medium, sliced thin and dipped in au jus. Add to this horseradish that is made fresh at the market and you’ve got something amazing.
And Suchanut, I would gladly send you some Weber’s! Do you like the plain unnatural yellow or the garlic horseradish? Seriously, send me your address on PM or by the email that I posted earlier and I’ll send some. I don’t think the Sahlen’s would make the trip very well, nor would the fabulous pierogis from Broadway Market but I’d happily send Weber’s and a pack of Texas Hot Dog sauce for you.
@Say NO: It is the entire system that is broken, not just the one in AK. When politicians care more about their political future and the next election than serving the people who elected them, then, Houston, we have a problem. Your AK legs didn’t impeach Palin because they were didn’t want to alienate her base (I wrote about this up thread). And, I don’t really believe we have power at the polls, either. Witness GWB’s absconding with the 2000 election via the Supreme Court. I’m not even going to go into the 2004 election.
TBNTJudy
AustinTX
BuffaloGal
Indeed they are some creepy people. From your description TBNTJ, it sounds like that’s the same guy Rachel interviewed. I’ll go check out your link right now, Austin.
Here’s another link with tons of stuff – not a quick read.
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
Nan – nope , not me about Obama. I figure if the guy hasn’t run screaming across the White House lawn foaming at the mouth, brandishing a cleaver and chasing after Rahm, he’s totally doing fine by me. He inherited a global meltdown and it’s going to take longer than a few months to fix, if it’s even fixable. I can barely balance my finances and keep the grocery list in order with consistent success. I give him credit for keeping a cool head and trying to tackle this stuff. And, poor guy, he’s gonna be totally gray by next Thursday. That’s gonna be one drastic “before” and “after” presidential side by side.
BuffaloGal said: “For those of you who are really REALLY into this stuff and who have good bookmarked info or book suggestions, please contact me by PM on the forum or at PalinNews at geee mail you know the rest.”
Dang! Wish I could find that article I read. I look forward to your site going live.
Interesting piece by Andrew Sullivan
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/which-prophet-are-you.html
BuffaloGal,
You can’t have the Broadway Market without the turkey butter & bunny butter too!!
123 BuffaloGal Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 8:59 AM
I missed mmboucher Florida’s connection – are you from here too? No I was eastern NY 10 miles from the Vermont border.
BuffaloGal – isn’t it an amazingly small world! These intertubes are a success!
I will PM you at the Forum
KOS diary talks about Leah Burton & Theopalinism
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/12/752640/-Palin-Says-Shell-Stump-For-Democrats,-Hints-at-Third-Party-Effort
ClosetMudpup, thanks for the link and the info. I haven’t been able to watch the Maddow vid yet because right now, I am on dial up. When I get back to my cable, I will watch. I woke up one morning last week to the tail end of an NPR story about The Family. I have been meaning to get to their site to look it up. Is he the same guy who is pointing out the Pentagon’s role in promoting this evangelical crap in the military?
BuffaloGal, I agree (and am giggling) with what you said about Obama and the economy. He did, indeed, inherit one heck of a mess, and the republicans are busily rewriting history to make it seem as if somehow this mess is of Obama’s making. What I find troubling is that he seems to be backpedaling on the health-care debate, and that is an issue that is extremely important to me because I have no insurance. We shall see what will come of that.
I agree with the analysis that Sarah’s next job will be as a ‘political rainmaker’ rather than an elected official. Fundraising, revving up the social conservative base and wielding influence dove-tails nicely with her narcissistic persona.
Will the candidates she supports share her fundamentalist world view?
You betcha!
Remember the Lithuanian Defense Minister who met with Sarah during her European jaunt?
Sarah referred to her as a ‘conservative’.
Gut instinct suggests that anyone obliquely praised by Sarah needs to be vetted. Sure enough, after a lot of google-ing, I found a comment by this Minister agreeing with the official Lithuanian Catholic Church position on homosexuality – calling it “a perversion”.
In the wake of revelations about ‘C – Street’ and it’s influence in American politics, we all need to be on guard against this christianist, dominion movement that is global in nature and has Sarah in it’s pocket.
Judy – I’ve read quite a few with the author. Someone here posted yesterday with some info and I just kept googling for more. Left me with chills and quite unnerved. This topic has me really on edge and that’s why I’ve decided to do this new site.
I’m popping up to live chat for a few , before settling into the couch for a nap. I’m so punchy I’m having a tough time reading the posts. Been up since 2am and it’s 1:30 pm now but my “go to sleep mechanism” is shorting out. I need to sleep but can’t yet so I’m going to ride it out on the chat board and some blogs. Have to clear my head so I can get some work done !
BuffaloGal, hubby grew up on an apple farm in Medina, NY, in between Buffalo & Rochester. 90% of his family are hard core repubs. Asked his much older sister while we visited in early June what she thought about sister sarah, she
replied “she has potential” even the other hard core repubs snickered. Got
the infamous “Time” with renegade cover, barf. I’m reading it in sections as it’s so offensive to take in one sitting. Got to where she says The Obama white house is orchestrating evil things against her. The audacity of her, with the economy, 2-3 wars & everything else going on she thinks the president has the time to worry about a little dimwitted gnat like her. LOL
All I know is if Scarah comes near my state I’m going to picket her. And whoever signs her on to campaign with is going to hear from me. Blech!
Now, why am I not surprised? :
Palin Hints At Plans To Split Republican Party | Crooks and Liars http://bit.ly/J41kd
Oh please. . . make it so!
Nan,
Then too, it’s only been what – 5 or 6 months. One-eighth of the term. We’ve got another 3 1/2 years left in this term.
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Life has become that of instant gratification. One reason due to credit cards. You don’t have to save up for anything anymore. You want it – you buy it. Doesn’t mean you actually need it. Therefore our timeframe of waiting for anything now doesn’t exist.
Not something that parents teach kids anymore as you can see and hear everytime you go shopping — “I want this Mommy” “I want” “I want” and on the first response of “No”, the whining starts, the kicking starts and then it becomes a full-scale tantrum, wherein Mommy buys it.
Close to Christmas I’ve seen myself say to the kid, put it on your list for Santa. The mother looks at me like I have two heads but it shuts the kid up out of shock for a moment anyways and allows me time to get away from it.
My belief: Moms — when they’re totally out of control — take them home!!!
I think her supporters had better stop sending her money and start investing in some duct tape, I have a feeling their going to need a whole lot of it.
131 Suchanut Says:
please God, before I die can I please have a bottle of Weber’s mustard!
Here is a link that you can buy Weber’s mustard. You would be surprised at what you can order from the Internet. I get thing’s all the time what I can not get here. Jusy sayin.
http://www.webersmustard.com/
Seagull Junker Palin, thanks for that link. What a great read. Just confirms what I think about her.
“In short, Sarah Palin appears to have manipulated the media with impeccable timing and considerable finesse. First the media, next the nation. Onward, Sarah Palin. Meanwhile, about your witch hunter friends… oh, forget it.”
Some prescient Mudpup (sorry, I cannot remember who) posted this quote on the ‘flats several times a few weeks ago, and I’ve never forgotten it:
“When fascism comes to America, it will be draped in the flag and carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis
JC in CO – Medina’s lovely too. If they’re not familiar with this area, most folks are so surprised to find out how gorgeous it is. Certainly Buffalo’s not what it used to be but there are still areas that leave visitors saying, “REALLY?? THIS is Buffalo??” Our theater district is probably one of the top three for mid-sized cities in the country and I would say we could go up against the bigger cities as well (other than NYC, of course) It’s really spectacular. But, just outside of Buffalo there are places like Medina and Niagara County wine country, the Allegheny hill and mountain area, that are breathtaking.
And, JC, it’s funny out here. You can drive 50 miles in any given direction and you’ll go through a half dozen pockets of “strictly dem” which then turns to “strictly rep”. And they’re staunch! I have a whispered theory that I keep to myself though that , even here in dem country in my neighborhood, I think these folks have a hankering for Palin. Whatever her weird cocktail of appeal is for some folks, I do think it can be intoxicated for a certain segment that might be bigger thank I dare ponder.
TBNTJudy
Chris Rodda of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation has some good articles in the Daily Kos recently, too.
His home site is http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org
Another group that is really active (I admit their URL threw me at first) is
www[.]jewsonfirst[.]org (Seems the Jews aren’t thrilled about the idea of Christian theocracy either.)
Also, Google Americans United for separation of church and state
131 Suchanut Says:
Or you can buy just 1 bottle for $3.99 here at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Webers-Horeseradish-Mustard/dp/B001UK0EB4
#123 BuffaloGal, yummy, beef on weck. Those rolls are actually kimmelweck
buns. You can’t bring them home & freeze them as it destroys the salt.
Have often put a big old dab of horse radish on my bun & the tears ran down my face when it was fresh & strong, very painful!
HA !! I just reread some of the msgs and realize that I’m sounding like the Buffalo version of Palin as she plays the PR person for Alaska!
Sorry folks – didn’t mean to take up so much space talking about the area. I told ya though – I’m sleep deprived punchy!
Ok – anyone wanting to hear about beef on weck and doesn’t mind my blathering, see you on the live chat.
And Judy, that quote by Lewis can’t be repeated often enough. Truth truth and forewarning truth!
Try this site for sauces……… The Original Roasted Raspberry Chipotle Sauce® will rock your world. It’s local here , but they ship. I marinante rib-eyes over nite in a big freezer bag in the fridge , then throw ‘em on the grill.
http://www.jelly.com/
yellerdogg said: “I agree with the analysis that Sarah’s next job will be as a ‘political rainmaker’ rather than an elected official. Fundraising, revving up the social conservative base and wielding influence dove-tails nicely with her narcissistic persona.”
Spot on. I keep thinking of her as a female version of Elmer Gantry.
C. Rock – Thanks! On some level I knew that all of these things are available on line, I guess I just needed to whine a little for the things that I miss. There’s no place like home.
The non-partisan website PublicSquare [dot] net is hosting “bloggerheads” debates over Sarah Palin’s future. First installment is here: http://www.publicsquare.net/bloggerheads/2009/07/10/sarahs-career-in-palin/
I’ll post the follow up and rebuttal in separate comments.
Here’s a taste from cdierks’ “Sarah’s Career in Pa(l)in”:
“The longer she is in the news picking fights with David Letterman, having the father of her grandchild speak to the media, seen to have forced her daughter into reversing her position on abstinence teaching, the more tabloid/reality TV-like the family drama continues to be, the more this really hurts her across the board except in the minds of those who are already on her side. For them, this is just proof of liberal media bias and a campaign to discredit Sarah Palin because she represents the true voice of ‘real’ America.”
Beyond The Beyond Just another WordPress weblog
Sarah Palin’s New Normal
By Bruce Sterling July 12, 2009 *This is an interesting process. When will it stop? Sarah Palin seems to imagine that when she returns to private life, nobody is going to legally and extralegally harass her. On the contrary: I’m rather imagining that the persecution of Sarah Palin intensifies radically once she leaves office. Nobody is harassing her *because she is Governor of Alaska.* She’s catching hell for the stark fact that she is Sarah Palin, a polarizing hate figure.
Some more information on Sarah’s new friend the Lithuanian Defense Minister, Rasa Juneviciene:
http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/baltic_news/?doc=3367
The U.S. National Prayer Breakfast is sponsored by ‘The Family’, the same group that operates C – Street. Although RM has reported on it’s influence regarding American politics, it is a global movement that has tentacles in many governments, including Lithuania.
One of the chilling asides to this connection is that as Defense Minister, Rasa has great influence in geo-politics, especially in regard to the continuing Russia – Georgia conflict.
OK – I’ve got my tin-foil hat on – please forgive me.
I enjoy the Palin-bashing and don’t want to throw cold water on the ‘ding-dong, the Witch is dead’ party, but what Sarah represents is not going away. The question is who will be watching her once she resigns?
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Closet Mudpup Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Chris Rodda of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation has some good articles in the Daily Kos recently, too.
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That’s the other guy I was trying to think of. I’m going to have to bookmark these links because my memory banks are full
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BuffaloGal,
This is an open thread, and I really enjoy hearing about the places where the Mudpups live. Thank you and the rest of the pups for the armchair guide!
As for the Sinclair Lewis quote, were you the one who first posted it a few weeks ago?
Gotta run take the dogs for a walk. Enjoyed chatting with you all this morning!
Bloggerheads Morgen responds here: http://www.publicsquare.net/bloggerheads/2009/07/10/palins-future-better-days-ahead/
A taste of “Palin’s Future: Better Days Ahead”:
“Let me quickly run through what I think is the most significant point regarding Palin’s resignation, and the impact it will have on her career going forward. First of all, I do not believe stepping down as Governor of AK was a calculated move on her part to further her political career. However, as I noted in my post on this topic at Verum Serum, I do think that her resignation will ultimately prove to have been a good move towards this end. (If a national political career of some sort is her objective, which certainly seems to be the case.)”
TBNTJudy, you and yellerdogg have definitely hit on a good thread here, but the latest news from Bizarro-Land is that our favorite attention magnet has stated today that she is planning on splitting off the ‘conservative’ part of the republican party as well as conservative dems to start a new movement dedicated to the things SHE believes are important to the country…..
Check her PAC site that also has links to the ‘interview’ in the Wash, Times today…here’s other links for more leisure reading materials..what a HOOT !!!
http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/palin-hints-plans-split-republican-pa
Water just keeps getting stranger and stranger…
good grief, huffpo reporting that guv goodhair perry picks creationist over “birther” to run state education board. Also reporting sister sarah will campaign for independents & democrats also, too. Several republicans have already told her “thanks but no thanks” Why doesn’t she just move on, take over for greta “on the record” or start her reality show….
@yellerdogg: “enjoy the Palin-bashing and don’t want to throw cold water on the ‘ding-dong, the Witch is dead’ party, but what Sarah represents is not going away. The question is who will be watching her once she resigns?”
I agree, and WE will.
At bloggerheads, cdierkes replies:
http://www.publicsquare.net/bloggerheads/2009/07/11/on-tour-in-12-sarah-and-the-moderates/
“I don’t think however that she has a strong chance of moving that personality politics movement into an elected position going forward. So perhaps we arguing over our sense of the meaning of success/failure. If she continues on, let’s imagine gets the GOP nomination (which I still think is a fairly outside shot), then loses (maybe big-time) to Obama, did she fail? Did she succeed? Did she ever really have a chance?”
I don’t know if there is an ansswer to this question, or if anyone would know it anyway, but I have a complete fascination with SP’s religious fananaticism and the religious right. Her words regarding resigning were, “If I die, I die”. This is an allusion to the Bible story about Esther, and I have heard her religious followers say that “Sarah is our Esther.” As the story goes, Esther was a beautiful young girl who told King Mordecai about Haman’s plot; she risked her life, but said that she would expose Haman, and “if I perish, I perish.” So who is Mordecai and who is Haman in her modern day version? I consider myself pretty clever but I can’t get it.
Thanks Judy for the “it’s ok to inundate us with everything Buffalo” nod . I just know how tough it is to keep up with the posts. Figured moving it over to the chat line would make it easier.
I did though realize that I’m developing new speed scanning schematics in my brain so I figure everyone else does that too.
Hey – is there a moderator available ? Or perhaps someone here knows the answer to this question : is it ok for me to give a contact email address here in the threads? For me, it’s one that I have well secured so I don’t mind having it public. Just not sure if it’s kosher. I did it earlier and then said, “yikes!”
Thanks!
And Morgen’s follow up “Palin Has What it Takes to Expand the Conservative Movement”:
http://www.publicsquare.net/bloggerheads/2009/07/12/palin-has-what-it-takes-to-expand-the-conservative-movement/
“And if she chooses to run, I think the opportunity to expand her base of support will be in attracting more people to the conservative movement, not in trying to reinvent herself as a policy wonk. By 2012, there will likely be an even larger contingent of Americans who’ve grown tired of the government asserting itself over every sector of our society. Sarah Palin may very well have the combination of core values, personal charisma, and political acumen necessary to successfully launch the next phase of the conservative movement.”
Hello. I’m sure no one has anything better to do than to go over to Margaret & Helen’s Sarah Palin post and grade me on my poo slinging at Sarah Palin from an Alaskan point of view.
http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/sarah-palin-called-a-family-meeting-and-the-rabbit-lived/
There are tons of posts, and lots of trolls scattered throughout, but I wanted to make sure that folks had ALASKA in their minds if they had questions about the twit! Luckily for them, I have to go for a hike w/ hubby and dogs – I have five more posts in my head.
Add your voices!
I have Google searched NBC The Today Show for guests next week and see nothing about Levi. Also did just a general search of Levi + NBC.
Do we know ‘ who ‘ will be doing some sort of interview. I see nothing out there. The story yesterday said he would not be able to do the radio interview (from Celtic Diva ) because he had something with NBC.
Winski Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:59 AM
TBNTJudy, you and yellerdogg have definitely hit on a good thread here, but the latest news from Bizarro-Land is that our favorite attention magnet has stated today that she is planning on splitting off the ‘conservative’ part of the republican party as well as conservative dems to start a new movement dedicated to the things SHE believes are important to the country…..
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THAT’S exactly what I’ve been saying! She doesn’t give a flyin’ flip about anything beyond doing her anointed duty and helping the movement to take the world for the return of Jesus. As of tomorrow morning, I will be putting the first part of the week entirely in to getting the new ” palin and the third wave ” site ready for everyone here to look at. It won’t be complete but it’ll be ready for viewing and I’ll really really need your feedback.
Lily F – there’s a video clip on You Tube by a preacher named John Piper who references Esther in one of his sermons and indirectly (tho blatantly) references Palin at the same time and calls out, “Where are our Esthers?? Where are the women who are willing to say , “If I perish, I perish”. He then mentions someone currently in office who won a beauty contest and goes on to say that God often makes the chosen ones beautiful in order to win the masses for Him. And, to be honest, this is one of the guys on that side that doesn’t freak me out. He seems like a good man who believes what he’s doing and doesn’t have an agenda. However, the things he’s saying is very telling and disturbing because it means it’s infiltrated widely and is being talked about often.
I believe Sarah is getting regular counsel from the higher ups in this movement and is being guided as to what to do. Another theory of mine is that she was given a push from that side to go ahead and trust God to protect you – Just quit! You’ve got a calling and you’ve got money coming in. Alaska will take care of itself for now. You’ve got bigger things to do and you can help Alaska by accomplishing those things for Jesus. Go ahead Sarah/Esther – Trust us to guide you and trust God to let us know how to guide you. Quit and you’ll be helping to save the world.”
Yep. That’s what I think. (well… and that 10 million bucks sounds good too)
Posted earlier on – not open thread – Confused me !
This is a bit old, but interesting…
Palin’s email hacker.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/palin-hack
RE: Palin’s new found philosophy…
I’d like to see a Sarah’s book of zen;
fortune cookie/twitter tidbits of quirky short and paradoxical quotes:
Something like: To climb out of darkness you must first fall into a hole.
Or maybe the art of War:
” All warfare is based on deception.”
Here are some actual fortune cookie quotes she may have read-
A new wardrobe brings great joy and change in your life.
An alien of some sort will be appearing to you shortly!
The possibility of a career change is near.
You will be called to fill a position of high honor and responsibility.
Let your heart make your decisions – it does not get as confused as your head.
You will always get what you want through your charm and personality.
Your secret desire to completely change your life will manifest.
Keep your plans secret for now.
And fortune cookies she did not read:
Great works are performed not by strength, but by perseverance.
You always know the right times to be assertive or to simply wait.
Compassion will cure more then condemnation.
Face facts with dignity.
Excuses are easy to manufacture, and hard to sell.
You will be selected for a promotion because of your accomplishments.
Regarding the troll: It’s almost sweet, in a way–poor little troll wandering the internet, winds up here, pipes his little message…just want to give the little guy a hug before I call the cops.
Republican re-branding
http://comics.com/get_fuzzy/
Republican re-branding
http://comics.com/get_fuzzy/
TBNJudy, Winski, lily f and others: Sarah telegraphs her intentions through her speeches and we don’t need a secret de-coder ring to understand her (i.e. “higher authority”) as long as we remember that her first real taste of power came gift wrapped from the christian right.
As mudpuppies we have been in a unique position to hold MSM feet to the fire in calling out the duplicity that is Sarah Palin. Once she is no longer someone holding or seeking political office, media attention will fade. Will Mudflats evolve and continue to shine the light on the danger that is Sarah, will another blog take it’s place (I can’t conceive of another that will be this good) or will we all just go back to the separate corners we were in prior to Sarah’s anointment as the GOP VP standard bearer?
BuffaloGal,
I would recommended not giving a contact email address out here. The best thing to do is to PM it to someone. There are a lot of crazies out there and besides you will get an awful lot of spam if you do. Whatever you do, don’t give your address as is…at least put in eg. atyahoo.com
I wouldn’t put my email address out there….just saying!
They’re kicking Sarah Palin around on Meet the Press on MSNBC. Love it!
BuffaloGal , sorry! I meant to include you in my post at #170.
Incidentally, Buffalo is my totem.
Hey Martha – I want to add my voice but, how do we grade you ?? Please help. I’m tired and bleary and am not entirely sure if I’ve slipped into dream state or not. (i tend to dream about Palin and it’s unnervingly real!)
Would you like us to post as well and then let you know our thoughts on your post or is there a way of saying “HELL YAH!” to the post you left ?
Thanks!
yellerdogg Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 10:23 AM
TBNJudy, Winski, lily f and others: Sarah telegraphs her intentions through her speeches and we don’t need a secret de-coder ring to understand her (i.e. “higher authority”) as long as we remember that her first real taste of power came gift wrapped from the christian right.
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yellerdogg , at this moment I think i might be in love with you for that post and , if i stalk you, i stalk you.
Irishgirl – point very well taken. That’s why the email I set up is super duper cloaked, as is the new site. (but still – I do worry ! thanks for your safety nudge) I just didn’t want to break the rules here at mudflats. I try to be a good scout!
Dr Chill – might I say , HA! and add to that a chortle and a guffaw. “fortune cookie/twitter tidbits” was enough to get me laughing but the rest of the post is just great. I’ve noticed that the needed big laughs come well timed to keep us from getting too bogged with “ack!” .
@yellerdogg
This “Family” organization has me totally freaked out. I heard at one point during last year’s campaign that Hillary Clinton had an affiliation with this group. I may be misremembering but I recall her consistent involvement planning the National Prayer Breakfast.
As an atheist I am pretty uncomfortable with any religious anything in my government, but I recognize government is comprised of people – who believe religiously.
This “Family” has me thinking that perhaps I should be a more vocal atheist. Anyone else having flashbacks to the Great Schism?
http://www.gotquestions.org/great-schism.html
I ordered Sharlet’s book 3 days ago AND stopped by B&N – they didn’t have it – so, I am just waiting.
jc in co –
More on Perry’s pick.
http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/politics/entries/2009/07/10/lowe_to_lead_state_board_of_ed.html
@BuffaloGal – I love you, too and also!
All I Saw – You’re not mistaken. Hillary was counseled (reportedly) by this group. That shook me too! I was thinking, “Say it ain’t so! ” (but in my head “say it ain’t so” sounded so much better than when Palin said it in the debates)
I just hate when info comes in that further shakes my already quickly crumbling world view that was created by the “don’t think for yourself because here are the truths you need to memorize and salute to ” system of edumacation.
But yeah – it does lean towards Hillary being , at least, touched by these folks in some way . ( in my head I was hoping that maybe she was trying to “git the goods on ‘em” Let’s hope!)
EXCLUSIVE: Palin to stump for conservative Democrats
ANCHORAGE, Alaska | Brushing aside the criticisms of pundits and politicos, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she plans to jump immediately back into the national political fray — stumping for conservative issues and even Democrats — after she prematurely vacates her elected post at month’s end.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/12/palin-stump-conservative-democrats/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_photo_feature
BuffaloGal:
I believe Sarah is getting regular counsel from the higher ups in this movement and is being guided as to what to do. Another theory of mine is that she was given a push from that side to go ahead and trust God to protect you – Just quit! You’ve got a calling and you’ve got money coming in. Alaska will take care of itself for now. You’ve got bigger things to do and you can help Alaska by accomplishing those things for Jesus. Go ahead Sarah/Esther – Trust us to guide you and trust God to let us know how to guide you. Quit and you’ll be helping to save the world.”
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dingdingdingdingding! We have a winner!
yellerdogg:
As mudpuppies we have been in a unique position to hold MSM feet to the fire in calling out the duplicity that is Sarah Palin. Once she is no longer someone holding or seeking political office, media attention will fade. Will Mudflats evolve and continue to shine the light on the danger that is Sarah, will another blog take it’s place (I can’t conceive of another that will be this good) or will we all just go back to the separate corners we were in prior to Sarah’s anointment as the GOP VP standard bearer?
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I’m not so sure that the media attn will fade. This is SP, the media ho, willing to throw everything under the bus. And as long as she’s stumping (ha) for “others” she’ll be in politics, however unofficial she claims it is.
It depends on us, whether we “go back to the separate corners” etc.
(mudpups rock!)
@ Buffalo Gal
I was just kidding about the “grading”! And the posts are sprinkled throughout so yes, it’s probably hard to find them all! Add your voices to why we don’t want Sarah in politics – EVER AGAIN, only if you want!
The blog gets a lot of national lurkers and readers, so I sort of took over and said my piece. I don’t feel bad, because lots of regulars there take over and post about all sorts of great stuff, political and otherwise, and I was ON TOPIC – hurray!
“Palin trotting out her ‘poor little me’ campaign strategy yet one more time.”
http://www.adn.com/opinion/comment/story/861704.html
This is good. BTW, I post as writeidea on the ADN.
BuffaloGal
“All I Saw – You’re not mistaken. Hillary was counseled (reportedly) by this group. That shook me too! I was thinking, “Say it ain’t so! ” (but in my head “say it ain’t so” sounded so much better than when Palin said it in the debates)”
I hope it ain’t so, or at least is minimally worrisome. But, there have been numerous articles talking about how “close” the Clintons had been to stars associated w/Scientology. (hmm. I wonder if there’s any kind of link there?!)
“I just hate when info comes in that further shakes my already quickly crumbling world view that was created by the “don’t think for yourself because here are the truths you need to memorize and salute to ” system of edumacation.”
Now that just breaks my heart. Once upon a time, education was intended not only to inform the student of the world around him/her, but to teach that kid how to think! I was luckier than I knew to get that kind of teacher.
“But yeah – it does lean towards Hillary being , at least, touched by these folks in some way . ( in my head I was hoping that maybe she was trying to “git the goods on ‘em” Let’s hope!)”
hoping like mad here
wishing there was some way to preview… apologies for any oops in the html
Nan
I’m asking Santa for one of these.
http://www.toxel.com/tech/2009/07/09/dolphin-inspired-personal-submarines/
I have no doubt that Sarah got the Esther reference from her religious group, in the same way that Gov.Sanford identifies with the Biblical King David. Sarah probably identifies with Esther because she was chosen by King Ahasuerus from all of the beauties in the kingdom (Persia, today’s Iran). So, Esther became queen by winning a beauty contest!
The other reason that Sarah may identify with Queen Esther is because Esther was involved in “Palace Politics.” Esther overheard a plot to kill Mordechai, her cousin. The culprit was Haman, the evil prime minister. On her word, the King saved Mordechai (and also the Jews when Esther revealed her true identity). I think that Sarah likes to think that she would be powerful enough to have the ear of a king and be able to influence major political events in the kingdom (that is, if she can’t be the President/King herself).
Sarah will only campaign for Independents and Democrats that share her beliefs in “what’s right”.
Do you know any Independents or Democrats that share Sarah’s beliefs in “what’s right” according to Sarah?
Thought so.
BuffaloGal: I have done it a few time -posted my email on MF, and never got lambblasted, nor I didn’t get any crazy emails or spam from doing so.
The “Family” thing has been around for a long time. In my early 20s we took our kids to a nice local kid friendly church and over a couple of years they got wackier and wackier unhappy wives were demonicly possessed, the country was evil and was controled by Satan (during Clinton), everything turned into some crazy crusade where the ‘enemy’ needed to e destroyed. I have seen these loonies first hand, they truely beleive they are working for God. It was this that lead me far, far away from religion and toward atheism & ultra liberalism. I figure, if there is a God, he surely sees these fruitloops destroying his good name, so he’d certainly accept my rejection of religion.
From SarahPac
Please let it be so,a third party would cement Democratic leadership across the nation
Palin Hints At Independent Conservative Movement
Excerpts from TammyBruce.com
Enter now Sarah Palin with very encouraging comments that lead one to believe that she is indeed planning to do what she must: build an independent conservative movement and take this nation back from the liberals which now control both parties.Thanks liberals, for provoking Sarah into the national scene while vetting that family at the same time.
One thing I will say, the Washington Times with their headline for this exclusive interview reveal an anti-Palin stance. She is, don’t doubt, a threat to every existing political status quo. I hope the Washington Times and their editors realize, sooner than later, that the Palin movement is unstoppable and their credibility would be saved simply by reporting the news instead of becoming a GOP version of the NYT.
If you want to learn more about these fringe group, the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center) website has info on many of these nutcase groups. They are everywhere. I mean pockets in every state.
One place to look for the ‘New Sarah Palin’ on the campaign trail will be Kansas.
W
“@yellerdogg: “enjoy the Palin-bashing and don’t want to throw cold water on the ‘ding-dong, the Witch is dead’ party, but what Sarah represents is not going away. The question is who will be watching her once she resigns?”
I agree, and WE will.”
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you betcha. is this why she quit? is she moving? do we have bloggers in every state?
you betcha.
yellerdogg said: “As mudpuppies we have been in a unique position to hold MSM feet to the fire in calling out the duplicity that is Sarah Palin. Once she is no longer someone holding or seeking political office, media attention will fade. Will Mudflats evolve and continue to shine the light on the danger that is Sarah, will another blog take it’s place (I can’t conceive of another that will be this good) or will we all just go back to the separate corners we were in prior to Sarah’s anointment as the GOP VP standard bearer?”
If nothing else, mudflatters like BuffaloGal will start sites which focus on Sarah’s proclivities for bizarre and dangerous religious affiliations. I think the ‘flats will evolve to keep up. I also believe that if all of you are as obsessed by SP as I am because I think she is a clear and present danger to our country, in office or not, then we will continue to pick and probe all things Sarah. In the process, we will be shining the light on these types of movements like the Family which have been controlling things outside the limelight.
AustinTX – I haven’t even touched that link yet but “dophin inspired personal submarines” has me snagged and ready !
Nan – I KNOW!! Someone here (i’m pretty sure here ) recently posted a reference to the lyrics , “And the walls….come crumblin’ down” and I swear I’ve been hearing it every time I read a post that proves it, more and more.
Martha – I was hoping to help if i could! I know that some of the sites let you “grade” folks.
And now – it’s 3:30pm EST and my adult children ( early 20′s ) have arrived back from the Buffalo food festival and want to do much more mom/kid chatting than my “awake for freakin’ forever and so need to collapse in a drooling puddle” brain can handle. I need a nap and must take one.
Thanks for the great back n’ forth on this beautiful Sunday. Off to nap!
please forgive if this has been posted
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/07/10/palin/
“It is worth remembering that these are the same people who chose Palin, a manifestly unqualified and incompetent politician unable to string together a series of coherent sentences, as the potential presidential successor to a 72-year-old cancer survivor. So it would be refreshing and salubrious to see the perpetrators of that contemptuous and cynical tactic held accountable for endangering the country.”
I’ve been trying to find this for you folks wondering about Hillary’s connection to ‘C’ Street. I was shocked when I read it.
Also, too, I think it was me who said about the flag and the cross.
These people are mad scary
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/12/25538/2639
Here is the link that connects Hillary Clinton and Doug Coe of “The Family.
http://tinyurl.com/m3yvrt
RE: McCain. I am an Arizona resident and our Progressives are working hard to “retire” Sen. McCain next year. Anybody with any info I can use, please pm me at the forum.
I have enjoyed the $arah bashing as much a the next person but I am starting to feel sort of like I am picking at a scab. Don’t get me wrong. I absolutely do not want her anywhere near the POTUS spot and will do everything in my power to prevent that.
However, as an Alaskan, we have some bigger problems to attend to right now. Please see anonymous bloggers post from today. We need to shed some light on the problems that exist right now.
Our summers are very short and it seems that very few people are paying attention due to the latest $arah media hogging.
The big question is how can we help our fellow Alaskans before things get to a crisis stage?
Taking the media spotlight off of $arah is what bugs her the most. Perhaps that is what we should do. I, personally, need a little Palin detox.
Has anyone heard from JHop lately? Any updates on her efforts? I notice that Grimes slime is still up on the ADN site.
Meanwhile, SP is one busy li’l beaver, making board appointments, filling vacancies, putting *her* choice for judges in place. All to be done before she “resigns” as Gov, leaving her stamp on the state for years to come.
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1962
I am happy to see all the attention being paid to the Dominionist ties to Palin.
The “C” Street info that has been broadcast (thanks Rachael Maddow!) has me freaked out as well. This subject (of all horrifying things Palin) has been the #1 issue for me since before the election. These religious extremists have and will continue to infiltrate out military and our government (Rumsfeld is a scary example). I ordered Leah Burton’s book, “Theopalinism” many months ago. If you have not been to Leah’s “Theopalinism” site, I highly recommend (link at right under “other sites”). Note that Leah was also instrumental in stopping the AG appointment of WAR (she testified about his anti-women comments).
We MUST pay attention to this movement – it IS an organized plan to turn our Country into a Theocracy, a Christian Taliban led by the Talibunny Palin herself – IMO.
The Daily Kos link is very interesting as it links to a site Theopalinism who wrote a book by the same name, Leah Burton (is this the same Leah Burton who spoke up against WAR?)
http://www.theopalinism.com/blog/
Considering her recent blabbing about Higher calling etc. It does seem like she might be thinking of a new party.
I have complete faith that a naughty red monkey is about to drop….so I’m not to excited, that will stop her, but still this is important info/book.
Does anyone know if it is the same Leah?
One place to look for the ‘New Sarah Palin’ on the campaign trail will be Kansas.
When Kathleen Sebelius resigned as Kansas governor to accept an Obama cabinet position, the field was wide open for Sen. Sam Brownback (a resident of C Street) to ‘plow ahead’ in seeking the state’s highest post. Representative Todd Tiahrt subsequently announced that he would seek Brownback’s Senate seat. Tiahrt was mentioned on RM as the Congressman seeking admission to C Street.
Not only do Brownback and Tahrt share Palin’s theocratic views, but both owe their positions to financial underwriting by … ( wait for it) …
BIG OIL!
Specifically, Koch Petroleum – the first or second largest privately owned corporation in America,
If the name Koch Petroleum rings a bell, it might be the memory of Anna Nicole Smith whose octogenarian billionaire husband was the largest stockholder in the corporation outside of the Koch family.
I am confused re Hillary’s alleged connection to the Family. I confess that this is the first I’m hearing of it, but she has been in a position to impact policy for quite a while, and I’ve never seen any indication that she is trying to infiltrate the government with religious doctrine or the authoritarian style of governance which often accompanies such effort (e.g., the Sinclair quote re Fascism coming to America wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible). Nor have I heard her using that base to garner support, though again, I have not followed her as closely as I did others. It is the folks who run on those values and use their supposed affiliation with God (gag) to garner power who concerns me. I’ll read up on it more when it’s not a Sunday:-)
Nan – YES. RUMOR is that one of her judge appointments is a member of her Dominionist church, his last name is “Heath” (coincidentally?). Seven Mountain Dominionist on AK Supreme Court? Yikes.
“who concern me”, I meant….
crystalwolf: YES – SAME Leah. She is a true leader in the fight to STOP the formation of a Theocracy in America.
Geraldine Ferraro, 25 years later reflects on her groundbreaking Vice-Presidential nomination.
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/07/09/ferraro_anniversary/?refid=0
A really well researched article on The Family.
http://www.docudharma.com/diary/14768/the-family-the-old-boys-club-meets-jesus-and-miltitancy
Gramiam, don’t know how to pm you, but did you see the link I posted to the Rolling Stone article on McCain? It is an excellent read.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
TBNY Judy – Hi!, that was a brilliant article. I remember reading it when the campaign was going and thinking blimey, McCain is so toast.
Yellerdog, here is recent info about Tiart. I read about it earlier today.
http://tinyurl.com/ncjq6r
It occurs to me that we mudpuppies can help one another in our respective states by sharing information we come across in our travels in cyberspace. I have relatives and contacts in Texas who need info, Buffalogal needs Dominionist info and there must be others of us who want to keep ahead of the curve on lots of issues and people. I think we ought to get organized and connected over at the forum and get busy.
Austintx: I am on dial up, so I cannot get to your links. Will go there when I get back to civilization. The roasted raspberry chipotle sauce has my mouth watering.
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Lily f, that quote from SP, “if I die, I die. So be it.” has been running around in my head all weekend. One of the links I followed from here a few days ago was to an article and video about some raspy-voiced nutjob stirring up the youth troops. On the back of one of their t-shirts was that saying. It has something to do with martyrdom…being willing to die for the cause. Very frightening. That being said, I don’t believe for one minute that Sarah is willing to die literally for the cause; I don’t think she has evolved past her narcissism enough to do that.
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UKLady, you, BuffaloGal, and others here have pointed out Hillary’s association with the Family. Somewhere in the last few days I read that she did not attend the prayer thing after Bill was inaugurated. If so, then I guess she changed her mind…politics over conviction, I presume. I am so disappointed.
I went and found the npr link to “C” street. Another ‘pup posted it the other nite when we briefly discussed it. It’s long , 20 minutes.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106115324
Hey Strapon , I’m down here too.also.
@Gramiam AKA Smoke Strapon Palin , thanks for the link.
Tiahrt’s answer to move America toward recovery?
Less taxes for the rich and less regulation for industry.
Where have I heard that before?
@UK Lady, Hello back! I’m still waiting for the link you posted @208 about the Family to load. Gotta get myself moving here because I have loads of work to do before I can get back to my cable. It’s so hard being slowwwwwwwww…..
Whew. Just got through the comments. What a riveting discussion! I am so thankful for all of you.
Following one of your awesome links led to another for the 4.3.08 NBC Nightly News coverage on The Family. They are frightening and we need to watch for the degree of Pres. Obama’s connection.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#23943446
The good news: The Family’s time might be up. Interesting how Palin’s resignation and the Sanford/Ensign(?) scandals are shining a light into the Family’s dark places. We gotta keep the pressure up.
What is it with Palin and people with names like Cole, Coale and now, perhaps, Doug Coe?
(Dang, I’m slow. I refreshed before posting and there are some 20 comments i haven’t read. )
TBNTJudy
UK Lady
I found the most revealing part of that article to be that, while his shipmates were still being killed by the bombs he dropped on the deck, McCain was holed up in the Ready Room worrying over his next promotion. That story was taken from his book. Can one be more narcissistic than that?
austintx, my three sons, three of my grandkids and my ex all live in Austin. Progressives all, God Bless ‘em. I also love http://www.kissmybigbluebutt.com, a blog by a Texas good ol’gal who, I swear, channels Molly Ivins. I’m her Palin connection. LOL! Will come in handy if Buttercup heads down there to help Gov. Good Hair. Susan is just waiting to load the cannons and reopen the Alamo.
Lori in Los Angeles Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 11:40 AM
crystalwolf: YES – SAME Leah. She is a true leader in the fight to STOP the formation of a Theocracy in America.
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Thanks Lori
I kind of thought that might be so…I wonder why the bots aren’t all over her?
I ordered her book. It seems to go right with the talk2action site and c street.
Scary stuff. On talk2action…if you look on the side they have links and go to Dark Christian which is a forum but also has a dark christian wiki and you can look up domminist churches, biz, books everything. Pretty good if you want to check out your local church, or some of these “charitable organizations”.
Curiouser, the only “connection” I have seen for President Obama is his purported attendance at the annual National Prayer Breakfast. But didn’t he raise a scream of protest from our friends on the right by giving it a pass? Just sayin’.
From Gramiam’s link:
“We can turn this economy around, but we must unite against the failed spending policies of the Democrat majority, stop the administration’s tax and spend plans and grow the economy from the ground up, not the government down.”
Well, there they go again, bashing the democrats by using their classic bait-and-switch tactics. The failed spending policies that got us into this mess belong the republicans. But, we all know that. Grrrrr…..
This is Sunday and I would like to offer a prayer of thanks to my higher power for the gift to discern the odor of bullsh*t, however faint, in the statements of right wing politicians, journalists and followers. Amen
scaly little ankles! LOL!
I AM stepping away from the computer now, really I AM… Thank you all for such an entertaining and informative morning. I have been saving links to read later when I get back to town. I will catch up tonight. Really, I AM stepping away now… Enjoy the rest of the day, Mudpups!
Gramiam AKA Smoke Strapon Palin Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 12:21 PM
This is Sunday and I would like to offer a prayer of thanks to my higher power for the gift to discern the odor of bullsh*t, however faint, in the statements of right wing politicians, journalists and followers. Amen
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Did you look at the new thread before you wrote that ??
No I didn’t, austintx. I guess I must have been channeling AKM, ya think?
ROFLMAO!!!!
Gramiam @220
Susan sounds like a hoot! Good for her!
Gramian – Just did a quick google. He addressed Coe’s Annual National Prayer Breakfast in Feb. Apparently every Pres. has done that since Eisenhower. He did just get some heat for not attending the National Day of Prayer activities – definitely not Family-related.
The msnbc link dated April ’09 included Obama as attending some Coe meetings. It doesn’t seem that Obama’s policies fit the Coe ideology. Perhaps Obama attended as a young Senator to gain connections and see what it was about…same for Hillary…and, hopefully, stopped going.
new post
crystalwolf aka caligrl — I’ll look for more recent info on this later. We’re on our way to 112° here today, and I’m taking advantage of it still being only 108° to get a few more things done outside!
Oh, those Evangelicals are so nice! Look , they’re over there in Africa helping AIDS victims.
In Africa last year – over 2 million people died from AIDS, while 0 people died from condoms. And another 2.7 million people contracted HIV because they failed to use condoms to protect themselves and their partners.
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Obama to Keep Abstinence-Only AIDS Coordinator Mark Dybul
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2009/01/12/no-change-ogac-dybul-stay-at-least-now
Jodi Jacobson on January 12, 2009
“Confirming month-old rumors, a high-level source reported last night that President-Elect Obama’s transition team has asked Ambassador Mark Dybul to remain in place as Global AIDS Coordinator, despite strong opposition by treatment access, HIV prevention, and women’s rights advocates across the global HIV and AIDS community, many of whom signed letters calling for a change in PEPFAR leadership at this crucial time. While keeping Dybul on may be a stopgap measure for a new Administration dealing with huge problems across the board, it is a decision that signals we may not be getting ‘the change we need’ in global AIDS policies.”
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US HIV/AIDS efforts in Africa are in part conducted by Christian fundamentalists who withhold the means of prevention in contra-scientific preference to their own abstinence-only religious beliefs. How is that not taxpayer-financed proselytizing? And how offensive is it that they are willing to sacrifice lives by withholding the preventive care we’ve paid for to push their religious beliefs onto others? And that they are doing so in all our names?
Texas Gov. Perry Picks Creationist To Run State Education Board
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/12/gail-lowe-perry-picks-cre_n_230167.html
Closet Mudpup Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 12:41 PM
crystalwolf aka caligrl — I’ll look for more recent info on this later. We’re on our way to 112° here today, and I’m taking advantage of it still being only 108° to get a few more things done outside!
Oh, those Evangelicals are so nice! Look , they’re over there in Africa helping AIDS victims.
In Africa last year – over 2 million people died from AIDS, while 0 people died from condoms. And another 2.7 million people contracted HIV because they failed to use condoms to protect themselves and their partners.
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Obama to Keep Abstinence-Only AIDS Coordinator Mark Dybul
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2009/01/12/no-change-ogac-dybul-stay-at-least-now
Jodi Jacobson on January 12, 2009
“Confirming month-old rumors, a high-level source reported last night that President-Elect Obama’s transition team has asked Ambassador Mark Dybul to remain in place as Global AIDS Coordinator, despite strong opposition by treatment access, HIV prevention, and women’s rights advocates across the global HIV and AIDS community, many of whom signed letters calling for a change in PEPFAR leadership at this crucial time. While keeping Dybul on may be a stopgap measure for a new Administration dealing with huge problems across the board, it is a decision that signals we may not be getting ‘the change we need’ in global AIDS policies.”
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US HIV/AIDS efforts in Africa are in part conducted by Christian fundamentalists who withhold the means of prevention in contra-scientific preference to their own abstinence-only religious beliefs. How is that not taxpayer-financed proselytizing? And how offensive is it that they are willing to sacrifice lives by withholding the preventive care we’ve paid for to push their religious beliefs onto others? And that they are doing so in all our names?
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Unf*%King believable!!!
Closet Mudpup -
I linked our local paper’s story on Perry’s appointment @ 177.
To Closet Mudpup @ #108 / BuffaloGal @ #113 / TBNTJudy @ #116
Regarding “The Family,” have you seen these articles about Hillary Clinton’s involvement with the group? I haven’t read all the comments yet so apologies if this has already been covered.
One is a 2008 piece by Barbara Ehrenreich in The Nation; the other is a 2007 Mother Jones article co-written by Jeff Sharlet, who joined The Family’s home for young men in 2002 and wrote about it.
http://tiny.cc/FamilyMJ
http://tiny.cc/FamilyNation
While I was never a Clinton fan (though I was not a hater, either—then or now), I was shocked when I read these pieces during the presidential primary last year.
It’s puzzling to me that this quasi-religious organization, not to mention the Clinton affiliation, never got more national attention. Perhaps there will be more discussion now about this “Family” group? I hope so.
While I’m by no means against religion per se, I really really value the separation of church and state.
Lori in Los Angeles (204)
Nan – YES. RUMOR is that one of her judge appointments is a member of her Dominionist church, his last name is “Heath” (coincidentally?). Seven Mountain Dominionist on AK Supreme Court? Yikes.
oh rats. Thanks for the info
@PhotonFlower: thanks for mentioning Jeff Sharlet. He did infiltrate the Family house. I first read an article he did in Harper’s Magazine about it (it is online, but you have to be a subscriber). He has recently published a book about the Family”
http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247437573&sr=1-1
should be awesome!
McCain is a maverick no more if he ever was.I Read stories that said he lied about his torture and he gave information to get better conditions and food,ect. Just something I found on the Internet when checking candidates out during the primaries ,Sure looks like he has been told to follow the party line or he would not be supported.After reading the article about him giving info for better treatment I would never never vote for the man,He admits himself he gave info to the enemy just said it was for different reasons,
As for Palin remember Gault ,Gretas husband he was supposedly a democrat and advised Palin and just maybe he told her to go this way and his church=cult would help her
oops, hit enter too soon.
Also wanted to share that Sharlet is involved in a website called “Killing the Buddha,” and there is an excerpt from his book on the Family up now:
http://killingthebuddha.com/mag/damnation/chosen/
yellerdogg Says:
July 12th, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Some more information on Sarah’s new friend the Lithuanian Defense Minister, Rasa Juneviciene:
http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/baltic_news/?doc=3367
The U.S. National Prayer Breakfast is sponsored by ‘The Family’, the same group that operates C – Street. Although RM has reported on it’s influence regarding American politics, it is a global movement that has tentacles in many governments, including Lithuania.
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Lithuania is a firmly Catholic country. The X-ians will take over Russia before they take over Lithuania.
PhotonFlower
I hadn’t seen either of those articles before, nor had I seen any others linking Hillary to a religion of that nature. Thanks for those links. I’ve ScrapBooked* them and will look more at that later in the week.
[*ScrapBook is a Firefox extension for saving web pages that allows deletions, highlighting, and adding notes.]
I too,also, agree with Lovemydogs and have palin burnout. But if we all get burnout on corrupt politics, they win. I am so grateful for you all ‘hounddogging’ these issues and bringing to light what is really going on. This is how we keep ‘em honest! I am only afraid that there is a lot of work to do and hope there is enough rabid mudpuppies around the country to get it done!
There’s always a tendency to burn out near the end. But we haven’t crossed the finish line yet. She’s still governor until Parnell is sworn in. After that, you can dismiss Sarah.
But then….you’ll need to be vigilant of Parnell.
The fight doesn’t end. But when there are many, some can take the occasional break while others step in.
I visited Mudflaps last year after Sarah was nominated and have regrettably not been back. That’s changed now!
Consider me a fan and fellow.
I’ve discussed many of the issues here on my blog, please visit!
http://theworldofhowey.wordpress.com/