Open Thread

It’s special session day! Stimulated coffee drinkers and decaffeinated tea baggers will be out in force while the legislature decides whether to overturn the former governor’s veto of the weatherization stimulus funds, and whether to confirm Craig Campbell as Lt. Governor.
Stay tuned for details, and enjoy the open thread.










Hope everyone has their signs ready – good luck to all!
Nice picture AKM (o:
love the picture and good luck today.
Lower 48 mudpuppies are right behind you Alaskans!! Yes you can!
Okay, I have dropped my big long blog name. It was causing static on my denture communicator. Chew on that! George Soros, where is my doggone check already!
I was reading a recent scientific article, when I read the following, SP immediately came to mind. I just had to share.
……..”Psychopathic extremes have been portrayed in Hollywood blockbusters by characters like the serial killer and cannibal Hannibal Lecter. Psychopaths often violate social norms, are manipulative, impulsive and sensation-seeking, and appear to feel no empathy or remorse….”
The snail photo goes really well with the toy advert (a rainbow snail) just to the right of the page.
Pittsburgh AKMudstock 2009
Sunday, August 16th, 2009 – 1PM – Pittsburgh, PA
It is all really going to happen! We have extended the RSVP deadline to FRIDAY AUGUST 14th for any last minute Mudpuppies on the SURGE!
We are now at around 32 coming in!
There is now a PRE-AKMudstock gathering scheduled for SATURDAY NIGHT AUGUST 15th for those in town by Saturday night! Details to be announced today during the day on the UPDATE thread!
Stay tuned!
CHECK HERE FOR THE LATEST UPDATE INFORMATION:
http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,7283.msg75900.html#msg75900
Article by Naomi Klein in this month’s ‘The Progressive’
Palin was the last clear expression of capitalism-as-usual before everything went south. That’s quite helpful because she showed us—in that plainspoken, down-homey way of hers—the trajectory the U.S. economy was on before its current meltdown. The core of her message was this: Those environmentalists, those liberals, those do-gooders are all wrong. You don’t have to change anything. You don’t have to rethink anything. Keep driving your gas-guzzling car, keep going to Wal-Mart and shop all you want. The reason for that is a magical place called Alaska. Just come up here and take all you want. “Americans,” she said at the Republican National Convention, “we need to produce more of our own oil and gas. Take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska, we’ve got lots of both.”
And the crowd at the convention responded by chanting and chanting: “Drill, baby, drill.”
Watching that scene on television, with that weird creepy mixture of sex and oil and jingoism, I remember thinking: “Wow, the RNC has turned into a rally in favor of screwing Planet Earth.” Literally.
http://tinyurl.com/lz8ya3
UGH. I just got an email forward. Slander on the healthcare reform! There is a long detail line by line- very long and looks official, but here is the brief. I’ll forward it to Senator Begich, and the head of the Democratic offices here, any other suggestions?
A brief summary of Obama’s health care plan:
1) Mandatory End-of-Life planning will be instituted for the elderly who are likely to be denied treatment,
Mandates health care for illegal aliens
2) Mandates funding of abortion-especially inner city children more likely to be minorities,
3) Paves the way for Christianity to be excluded from health care organizations,
4) Refuses to exclude funding sex-change operations
5) Rations health care on all levels
6) Allows government to determine what care can be provided at what cost
7) Sets a standard for the maximum health care providers can earn
9) Taxes businesses and individuals who do not have approved health care plans.
TOO FUNNY! (This perhaps should go under the Howard Dean posting)
I was just about to turn off the TV and go about my daily chores, when Ron Reagan and another fellow (couldn’t catch his name) came on to discuss the disruptions in the Town Hall Health Care discussions. Ron Reagan says it best: “All Sarah Palin needs is a red nose and a pair of big rubber shoes and she could go to work for Barnum and Bailey.”
Wow, if you see the pics (on HP or on E) he looks quite, uh, happy by her side. I wonder if Kathy is teaching our little Mr. Alaska the Hollywood “ropes?” He’ll never look back after the older woman! Ha!
Kathy Griffin, 48, found herself a hunky date for Sunday night’s Teen Choice Awards — Levi Johnston, 19.
Dressed in a pinstripe suit and pink striped tie, the Alaskan teen and father of Sarah Palin’s grandson Tripp arrived hand-in-hand with Griffin, planted a kiss on her cheek for the cameras and did some solo posing as well.
No word how the pair became friends, but Johnston told Access Hollywood, “She’s beautiful and funny. She’s the star of the night.”
Johnston has been in LA not just to be Griffin’s plus one, but according to E!, also for a Vanity Fair photo shoot.
tigerwine: That IS hilarious. Go Ron. I wonder how Nancy (and Ron) feel about Palin invoking Ronnie in most of her rants.
so sarah has a new facebook politico-writer friend that apparently crafts only complete sentences and is unable to inject vitriol into the subject matter.
must be hard to be sarah – now she can’t even blog for herself.
i am not falling for it. just saying……
I’m wondering who is pulling Palin’s puppet strings. I doubt (as most people) that she wrote that facebook page. Plus, I’m not sure she could have even come up with that hate strategy herself (dealth squads). Someone had to come up with that line.
She seems rather close with Cheney, so is he the puppetmaster? Rove? Fox?
RNC?
Come on, she is an unemployed citizen now. Who is paying Palin’s bills?
I am sure she will be paid by the NRA for her gun stance, but who else is paying Palin.
That’s the real story.
Polly,
That e-mail you got on healthcare reform is simply terrifying! What is worse is that people are gonna believe it! What has Bill O’Reilly been spewing?
Come on, she is an unemployed citizen now. Who is paying Palin’s bills?
I am sure she will be paid by the NRA for her gun stance, but who else is paying Palin.
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ScARAHPAC
“All Sarah Palin needs is a red nose and a pair of big rubber shoes and she could go to work for Barnum and Bailey.”
LOL!
Jamie-
There is a list of a hundred or so claims, here are some, (no wonder people are up in arms) :
> • Sec. 123, Pg. 30 – THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT
> COMMITTEE deciding what treatments and benefits you get.
> • Sec. 142, Pg. 42 – The Health Choices Commissioner
> will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!
> • Sec. 163, Pg. 58-59 beginning at line 5 – Government
> will have real-time access to individual’s finances &
> a National ID health care card will be issued!
> • Sec. 223, Pg. 124, Lines 24-25 – No company can sue the
> government for price-fixing. No “administrative of
> judicial review” against a government monopoly.
> • Sec. 225, Pg. 127, Lines 1-16 – Doctors – the
> government will tell YOU what you can make. “The Secretary
> shall provide for the annual participation of physicians
> under the public health insurance option, for which payment
> may be made for services furnished during the year.”
> • Sec. 312, Pg. 145, Lines 15-17 – Employers MUST
> auto-enroll employees into public option plan.
> • Sec. 313, Pg. 149, Lines 16-23 – ANY employer with
> payroll $400,000 and above who does not provide public
> option pays 8% tax on all payroll.
• Sec. 1145, Pg. 272 – Treatment of certain cancer
> hospitals: Cancer patients and their treatment are open to
> rationing!
> • Sec. 1177, Pg. 354 – Government will RESTRICT
> enrollment of special needs people! “Extension of
> Authority of Special Needs Plans to Restrict Enrollment.”
> • Sec. 1191, Pg. 379 – Government creates more
> bureaucracy – “Telehealth Advisory Committee.” HC by
> phone or the Internet – dial 1 for your health care
> advice?
> • Sec. 1233, Pg. 425, Lines 4-12
> – Government mandates Advance (Death) Care Planning
> consultation. Think Senior Citizens and end of life.
> END-OF-LIFE COUNSELING. SOME IN THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE
> ALREADY DISCUSSED RATIONING HEALTH CARE FOR THE
> ELDERLY.
More consiracy theory… the flks are giving me a head ache.
Geez, Polly. Makes me wonder how many of these my mom actually believes!
This is worth the read. Some conservatives calling out Palin’s attack as crazy…. Did Palin jump the shark with her “death panels” accusation?
From the article:
On “Meet the Press” this morning, David Brooks called Palin’s attack “crazy,” The Washington Post’s Dan Balz said this morning, “It’s not the way to debate this bill, and it’s another example of Sarah Palin having difficulty figuring out how to enter into a serious debate about issues.”
I’ve long wondered if there would be a point at which Sarah Palin went just a little too far for the political mainstream. A whole lot of political observers noticed the obvious lies, the cringe-worthy ignorance, the petty feuds, and the bizarre behavior, but wanted to maintain the fiction that Palin was a credible political figure. After all, John McCain wanted her to be one heartbeat from the presidency — and 60 million Americans agreed.
Maybe, just maybe, her “death panel” message on Facebook — complete with lies, poor writing, policy confusion, and family exploitation — will be enough to convince the skeptical that Palin really is that far gone?
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_08/019420.php
GO GET ‘EM, PUPPIES!!!!!
And, I am SICK TO DEATH of hearing all the twisting and spinning of the bill. To throw about inflammatory verbiage without the full context of the point is to be irresponsible.
Take lots of photos, ya’all!
And STAY SAFE! Use the Buddy System and don’t engage with the red shirts!
TXChick4Obama Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 5:02 AM
Come on, she is an unemployed citizen now. Who is paying Palin’s bills?
I am sure she will be paid by the NRA for her gun stance, but who else is paying Palin.
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ScARAHPAC
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Can she use that money for whatever she wants? Shopping, manicures, living expenses,ect.? What are the rules for PAC money? Just wondering.
Ironically, just got an email from Axelrod:
Given a lot of the outrageous claims floating around, it’s time to make sure everyone knows the facts about the security and stability you get with health insurance reform.
That’s why we’ve launched a new online resource — WhiteHouse.gov/RealityCheck — to help you separate fact from fiction and share the truth about health insurance reform.
(I’ll have to check this out, and email forward it back to the email I got with all the outlandish information.)
Here’s the latest :
“After making an extraordinary, unsupported and incendiary claim that President Obama’s health care plan will result in a “death panel” that is fundamentally “evil,” Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is now calling for civility in the debate on health care reform.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/palin-backs-off-death-pan_n_255317.html
Geez – it actually does sound like someone came to the rescue (or clean up) and wrote this for her because it sounds too much like English.
Sorry if already posted but found this…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/palin-backs-off-death-pan_n_255317.html
Two really good comments from other sites that I must pass on here. I think they are 100% correct.
1. Palin’s expected response, By criticizing my statement, you are attacking Trig.
Why can’t you leave my children out of your smears, Democrats?!
2. Sarah Palin – dangling her kid out the window for attention, then whining about the attention
Quick question for all of you this morning. When posting a comment, can you use someone else’s name & photo? The trolls took over the comment section at the ADN, like they always do, using Andree’s, Gryphen’s, & Shannyn’s full names & pictures. Isn’t that fraud?
If she backed off the death squad statements, it’s only because conservatives are calling her crazy.
Was browsing new iPhone apps and this one popped out at me. An appropriate name for the Leader of the Anti-Death Panel Squad?
“The latest game from ngmoco designed exclusively for iPhone and iPod touch, Star Defense takes the tower defense genre on to other planets, letting you battle the S’rath in a challenging 3D environment.”
S’rath, I am liking that.
Just got an email from the White House announcing a new Web site devoted to health care: http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/
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“Anyone that’s watched the news in the past few days knows that health insurance reform is a hot topic — and that rumors and scare tactics have only increased as more people engage with the issue. Given a lot of the outrageous claims floating around, it’s time to make sure everyone knows the facts about the security and stability you get with health insurance reform.
“That’s why we’ve launched a new online resource — WhiteHouse.gov/RealityCheck — to help you separate fact from fiction and share the truth about health insurance reform. ”
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Unfortunately, those who already believe people like Sarah Palin and my lame red-state Congresspersons won’t believe it anyway.
G Katz
Agreed, there are those who are brain-washed beyond hope. However, I have changed some minds of those on the fence by giving them accurate data on other issues.
I emailed the person who sent me the ghastly email, explaining that AARP has sat at the table in the making of the healthcare reform bill. AARP is a membership organization that protects its members. For him to contact them with his concerns rather than believing emails that he gets, since he is a member.
sdragon @27– my suggestion is to email each of them on their websites….it is only 5 am in alaska right now………maybe when they are up and online they can do some cleanup at ADN.
personally, i think it is less than high-schoolish to post comments under someone else’s name. ?? the tubes don’t know any better………the tube users have to show a little class (i know – dreamer).
meanwhile, i am getting beyond excited about going to netroot nations and then to pittsburgh mudstock. so many fantastic speakers and panel topics.
i might actually squeak with fun-saturated joyfulness.
and by-the-by — i think it is a good idea for all folks to try to slog through the 1000 pages of the health reform act. even though pundits call it obama’s health reform – we should all remember very clearly that congress and senate are the ones who are crafting and shifting and compromising. obama can only tell them what he (we) wants — the rest of the work is up to us writing and communicating with our elected represenatatives. seriously.
i appreciate that obama takes on the responsibility for keeping the legislative branch on the target – but the folks on the ground are really the essential hammers for this particular nail to go through.
Is the Unibomber allowed to post on Facebook? I am seeking the source of Sarah’s crazy contradictory rants, and the style seems vaguely familiar.
Late last night, I suddenly remembered it was ‘trash night’.
Hefty in one hand and recycling bin in the other, I headed to the front door, where I’m met by my sister’s dog, Cassie.
I probably could have stopped her from snaking under my legs and out the door, but my hands were full and maybe she had to ‘go’.
She did her bidness as I made my way to the curb. As I turned around to go back inside, without warning she suddenly took off, bolting around the neighbor’s house, completely oblivious to my hissing her name as loudly as I could.
But then, almost immediately she came back from around the corner. She’s shaking her head and snorting. Poor baby, you sneezin’?
But then… the Smell. Simultaneous thoughts: ‘Oh, no’ ‘Maybe not’ ‘She’s not a stupid dog’ ‘Oh, sh!t…’ ‘Awww…. SH!T!’
Yup. Skunked.
Jamie – Ha! Commented at same time. I thought people would be interested in that too.
Also there are links to the Facebook statement on there. She starts out attacking the stim $ vote today, now there are “ropes” attached not just mere strings….sheesh.
Someone was questioning a comment yesterday about Gingrich supporting Palin’s ‘death panel’ statement on Stephanopoulis’ show. Found a link to that:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/09/gingrich-defends-palins-o_n_254926.html
I’m very excited for all those going to netroots nation. It will be fun and informative, and empowering. You will all be so energized …
sdragon (27)
Quick question for all of you this morning. When posting a comment, can you use someone else’s name & photo? The trolls took over the comment section at the ADN, like they always do, using Andree’s, Gryphen’s, & Shannyn’s full names & pictures. Isn’t that fraud?
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I think that might actually fit the definition of “defamation.” At the very least, it’s an attack on their respective characters and/or reputations.
It might not hurt to get a screen capture or three, just in case.
It seems to me that Sarah Palin has said that she intends to say the exact opposite that Obama says.
Like your average two year old.
I also have been wondering who is helping her write her blog.
Have Rove, and Cheney have found themselves a newer and prettier puppet than George W?
@ 35 MonaLisa IS MY NAME!
My dog got skunked last week. Run to Petco and get “Nature’s Miracle Skunk Odor Remover.” The stuff works great!!!!!! I was so dreading having him/the house smell like skunk for 6 months and there is no odor at all after using the stuff.
Mona Lisa, Oh no, been there. I have the recipe. I know it’s been posted before, in case you didn’t see it– 1qt. peroxide, quarter cup baking soda, couple drops of dish soap. My Labs are big girls( 96 & 99 lbs.) so I have to make bigger batches. I also have a young cat that thought a young skunk could be his friend. It only took 3 times for Ray to learn that Stinky did not want to be his friend!
Palin’s “Plural Possessive” Clue!
We can see for ourselves that there are “two Sarah Palins” out there – the one whose word salad makes our educated brains swell and the now-obvious more articulate non-Palin-authored comments on Facebook. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the distinguishing characteristics; in fact, all it takes is a sound high school education.
In today’s “walkback” of her latest incitement to violence alluding to death panels and the murder of her son and parents, the clue is absolutely obvious: SARAH PALIN WOULDN’T KNOW ENOUGH TO CORRECTLY PUNCTUATE A PLURAL POSSESSIVE! So now we can be sure that perhaps her bookwriter is tasked with the creation of a more intelligent version of this intellectually-challenged women.
Now we can begin taking educated guesses at the authorship of the ‘non-sarah’ posts.
Of course, there is always the possibility that she is actually a schizoid: one personality who reads and devours everything in print as she claimed to Couric and the other sarah who couldn’t find her way out of a grammatical paper bag with one way arrows on it!
I believe we all know the answer and with each authentically-sarah comment on facebook or twitter, she cements even stronger the fact that she isn’t capable of running anything – even a freak show she calls her life.
Need to get ready to go to work, but found this website that is to the point on separating myths & facts on the healthcare bill. good resource.
http://aarp.convio.net/site/PageNavigator/Myths_vs_Facts
Nan, thanks for getting back to me. But it’s me, the computer infant that can barely use two fingers on the keyboard. Not to worry, one of my best friends has been a computer wiz since early 80s. She’s patiently teaching me. Why just a few weeks ago, I learned how to make a paragraph, so proud! Don’t worry, I’m no quitter, I’ll learn. But in the meantime, I don’t know how to do any of the things you guys can do.
Roz #42 Sarah may have two personalities, but they are both idiots.
So now Sarah is advocating civility at Town Hall meetings. Boy, that’s rich. Sorry, but that toothpaste is out of the tube. (I know because some got on my toothbrush and it’s interferring with my reception.)
Below is an email that I sent to SarahPAC on Saturday. Won’t matter but it felt good:
“I would like to express in the strongest terms my thorough disgust at the remarks the former Governor made yesterday regarding the issue of health care reform.
Her Facebook statement was riddled with lies whose only purpose could be to frighten Americans and turn them against a rational discussion of much need health reform.
The reference to the Obama “death panels” is disgusting. The statement about people being denied care based on a bureaucrat’s determination of that person’s “level of productivity in society” is crass, hurtful and false.
These are difficult times for our country – OUR country…all of us. That the former Republican nominee for Vice President would stoop to this level in order to appeal to the shrinking base of her party is beyond understanding.
When she quit her job last month she said she was going to persue “a higher calling.” Instead she has sunk to depths that even I didn’t think she was capable of.
I have no idea where she thinks this kind of rhetoric will take her but this is not leadership by any defination. Shame on all of you for this behavior. If you think this is acting like a Christian you seriously misread what that word means.
In the interests of full disclosure I am a Democrat who never thought that the former Governor had what it took to hold the office to which she was nominated. Today, I thank her for confirming my fears.
Shame on you.”
The automated response: “Thank you for your email. Due to the large number of responses, it may take awhile for us to fully respond. Thank you.”
That one sounds like it was written by Sarah, also too.
_Sarah_H_Palin posted a comment on ADN about the legislator meeting today and how they’ll shoot to override her VETO on the energy stimulus and how it comes w/ropes. Hahahhaaaa, what a has been, writing comments in the comment section.
Campbell should not be confirmed. I think he will try to control the Military action in the State. This may have detrimental effects. Call the Military to control those that oppose them.. He needs to not be in the office.
Those who choose not to over turn the Weatherization Stimulus; must not have lived a day in their life without power. I do not mean just for a couple of hours. I mean days; during the winter time or during the peak of a hot summer.
46 A Fan From Chicago Says:
So now Sarah is advocating civility at Town Hall meetings. Boy, that’s rich.
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She probably got scared that she would be arrested for treason, and being a terrorist.
here_in_PA, I don’t believe that was palin because the next comment by Sarah_ H-Palin on the same thread was just another repeated spam that’s been going on since yesterday. It’s makes you wonder if any of these a…a… whatever the he!! they are can be more than 10 yrs. old. Hard to believe that they could possibly be adults.
Wow. The perfect title, bull’s-eye essay, and a zinger last line:
http://egan.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/palins-poison/
I’m so in awe of people who can write stuff like this.
here_in_PA, in all fairness, I doubt that comment was written by SP. Trolls with assumed identities have taken over ADN comments this weekend. I’m sure it’s one of her acolytes.
The Maverick has beocme a sock puppet for anyone who wants to pretend to be her. She is pathethic.
It is really pathetic how ADN allows that or can’t moderate the comments, I quit going there and go to the DNM now to read the Alaska news. Go to ADN once a month just to see if they’ve changed and see that they haven’t.
“Town Hall Organizers Put Out National Casting Call for Angry A-holes”
Encouraged by their ability to disrupt a week’s worth of town hall meetings on health care, Republican organizers have secured the services of a Hollywood casting director to conduct a nationwide talent search for angry A-holes.
Carol Foyler, who has stocked numerous Hollywood films with angry mobs for crowd scenes, says that she is looking for people who are “willing to shout and scream and get red in the face with no provocation.”
Saying that her current assignment was a “challenging” one, Ms. Foyler said finding “angry, out-of-control A-holes” is harder than it looks: “You really have to tip your hat to Fox for finding Glenn Beck.”
(From the borowitzreport)
Sarah, in honor of the troops fightin’ for our freedom, please STFU.
I think she has at least 2 personalities- maybe more.
That email with the line by line lies about health care reform made it into my inbox as well. It was sent by the nephew of a friend that I always thought was sane…silly me! After my response to the email I doubt he will be sending me any other nutty missives.
I just love seeing all of the over 65 crowd at these Town Halls screaming about government intervention in their health care. HELLO…ever here of medicare you nutbars!
We need education reform…just sayin’
The commentor on ADN may not be Palin but the things being said ARE from her latest statement on Facebook (as I posted earlier).
It’s 8 A.M. in Alaska now – hoping all goes well….(o:
Polly Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 4:19 AM
UGH. I just got an email forward. Slander on the healthcare reform! There is a long detail line by line- very long and looks official, but here is the brief. I’ll forward it to Senator Begich, and the head of the Democratic offices here, any other suggestions?
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Forward to here:
flag@whitehouse.gov
Make sure to forward the whole thing so it has all the headers on it. Don’t just copy and paste forward the whole thing.
Forward any anti-healthcare to this email, facebook statements, web site, blogs everything.
Why does the msm talk about stuff SP puts on facebook? Why is that newsworthy? She’s unemployed. She can’t even do interviews because she’s such an idiot…why doesn’t she just try taking care of her kids and let them have a childhood. Its always “my family, my child”, my my, me, I, I, I. I know America is fat and stupid but we need to get some self respect and stop giving her attention.
Palin’s Facebook message on healthcare accomplished exactly what they set out to do. They got the coverage on MSM, Sunday shows, the blogs, newspapers. They left it hanging out there long enough for an audience. Now they come back and post like they are trying to walk it back — again it will attract an audience. It’s being talked about here isn’t it? The other blogs, MSM are covering the follow-up lame walkback.
Everyone bought into it — their plan worked and it will again as this is a pattern. As long as blogs, MSM, etc. give it an audience & voice — they accomplish what they set out to do. Doesn’t matter whether she wrote it or not. She’s being talked about. Quite simple.
Best quote of the day:
Our President is a Rorschach test. What do you think you see?
I’m feeling a bit left out!
Where are all MY emails that spout hate, disruption, lies, and fear?
WHERE?
Exactly, Canadian Neighbor. I read over the weekend that her PAC has spent a lot of money on consultants, one of which is probably the overfed baptist minister, Rick Warren, who probably wrote the let’s return to civility thing. Or some other creepy grotesque evangelical christian who just wants to keep sucking up money from people.
MonaLisa IS MY NAME! Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 6:10 AM
Late last night, I suddenly remembered it was ‘trash night’.
Hefty in one hand and recycling bin in the other, I headed to the front door, where I’m met by my sister’s dog, Cassie.
I probably could have stopped her from snaking under my legs and out the door, but my hands were full and maybe she had to ‘go’.
She did her bidness as I made my way to the curb. As I turned around to go back inside, without warning she suddenly took off, bolting around the neighbor’s house, completely oblivious to my hissing her name as loudly as I could.
But then, almost immediately she came back from around the corner. She’s shaking her head and snorting. Poor baby, you sneezin’?
But then… the Smell. Simultaneous thoughts: ‘Oh, no’ ‘Maybe not’ ‘She’s not a stupid dog’ ‘Oh, sh!t…’ ‘Awww…. SH!T!’
Yup. Skunked.

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
My dog got skunked earlier this year. The above formula, hydrogen-peroxide 1 bottle, 1/4 c baking soda, 2 Tlbs DAWN detergent.
Blue Dawn detergent. Has to be that one. That is the one, Wildlife rescue uses to degrease sea birds from oil spills, its the only thing that will get the oil off without harming the animal.
And be careful of your dogs eyes, course that is most likely where she got it.
I feel for you…the smell gets everywhere!
I love the Borowitz columns. They are all spoofs of something or other, using current headlines as their “kernel of truth” foundations.
Trouble is, it appears there’s no need for a casting call as there are all too many who are already spot on as crazed, terrified people too panicked to hear any voice other than their own.
sigh.
mona lisa““““`poor sweet mona and poor odiferous doggie….many hugs. akm that’s a lovely picture of a shell thingy.
samper Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 8:06 AM
I’m feeling a bit left out!
Where are all MY emails that spout hate, disruption, lies, and fear?
WHERE?
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Obviously only smart, sane people have your e-mail addy. Congratulations.
Shannyn Moore’s “Death Panels for Dummies” is on HuffPo…go buzz it up!!
Good commentary on health care on (believe it or not) McClatchy.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/galloway/story/73288.html?storylink=MI_emailed
samper Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 8:06 AM
I’m feeling a bit left out!
Where are all MY emails that spout hate, disruption, lies, and fear?
WHERE?
I haven’t gotten any emails yet either, which is very surprising considering all the emails I received during the campaign from my republican family. I’m kind of hoping that they know this is so off the wall they are not willing to embarrass themselves by forwarding it to me. That’s my hope anyway. I’m pretty sure it’s because they know I would email the facts right bk at them and they don’t want to hear it.
I am not feeling too bad about being left out tho. They make me crazy.
Poor doggie!
BF’s doggie got skunked, but it was back in the day before all the recipes for odor elimination flew through cyberspace.
We used tomato juice. Gallons and gallons of tomato juice. We got it in bulk at Sam’s Club.
Then, we had a doggie that smelled like skunky tomatoes.
Poor Sammy. And poor us! The house reeked for weeks.
ALSO TOO: For the HOUSE, try ODOBAN. I was just turned onto this stuff via comments on the product at Sam’s Club. I got me some of that there stuff and my house has never smelled more pleasant! This stuff doesn’t MASK odors, it ELIMINATES them by MAGIC. Try it anywhere skunky doggie has been.
PROBLEM CHILD: Perhaps, but I really feel like I’m missing out on some good comedy.
We had a very good “meeting” last night (sorry Hope, it was at 10 pm ET).
We decided to create a blog where all the information, links, etc. can be gathered and organized.
I set the blog up at
http://healthylookathealthcare.blogspot.com/
and will be tinkering with it.
We’ll be meeting in chat again tonight at 10 pm ET.
Also there is a thread in the Mudflats forum:
http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,7743.0.html
The articles I read and the shows I watched were very derogatory toward Palin and lumped her in with Limbaugh and the like. IMHO it is good news that they are not letting her get away with it and are discrediting the whackjobs that are trying to spread fear. I thought someone here might feel the same.
Right now I am most concerned with the protestors in AK and what the Alaskan leg is gonna do. Hope we hear something soon.
Hi Lilyf
“Exactly, Canadian Neighbor. I read over the weekend that her PAC has spent a lot of money on consultants, one of which is probably the overfed baptist minister, Rick Warren, who probably wrote the let’s return to civility thing. Or some other creepy grotesque evangelical christian who just wants to keep sucking up money from people.”
Rick Warren is no saint (well, at least not in the other than Baptist perspective in which everybody is a ‘saint’) but it is highly unlikely he is working for Palin. She is more in tune with the Jerry Prevo’s and Franklin Graham’s who are, believe it or not, a whole other kettle of fish, so to speak. There is a rather large spectrum of characters within the evangelicals, which include even Sojourners Jim Wallis who wrote the book “God’s Politics; Why the Right gets it Wrong, and the Left Doesn’t Get it”. Of course he wrote that a few years ago before the left starting getting on board again for some of the policy changes that will hopefully benefit the poor. I expect he is thinking they might be a little more likely to ‘get it’ now.
OK – off to the special session soon.
Heh! And Shannyn’s HuffPo article is accompanied by an excellent cartoon by Alaska’s own Peter Dunlap-Shohl:
http://frozengrin.blogspot.com/
I haven’t gotten any of the wacko emails either.
Maybe the wackos in my family have given up on me? lol
Here is the link to the audio file for the special session:
http://w3.legis.state.ak.us/special2009.asx
They can’t do the televised Gavel to Gavel because all the techs are in Juneau.
Just FYI – the Republican Party is sending out a fundraising letter talking about how they took back the Senate and House under Clinton. They are accusing Obama and the Democrats of trying to build a socialist ‘Utopian’ society among other things.
@ Nina & Sdragon:
My brother-in-law picked up the Nature’s Miracle Skunk Odor Remover stuff first thing this morning, the dog smells a lot better already, although it still seems like the air is full, and I mean FULL, of the smell of really-burned extra-garlicky garlic bread.
What with all the dancing around I did out on the porch last night, trying to keep her from touching me OR getting into the house past me, I apparently stepped in her musk-laden drool and tracked it into the house.
(Meh… the carpets needed replacing anyway).
Update: As I was writing the above, my sis …ahem… ‘found’ the reason why the air is still so pungent. Apparently, the poor dog was hit almost exclusively in the mouth (IN her mouth!) as attested to by the scatterings of… well… I’ll spare you all, since it’s lunchtime or soon to be….
The moral of my story? I dunno… there SHOULD be one, shouldn’t there?
My funny-bone is a bit fractured at the moment; all I can come up with is, “Don’t lick a miffed Mephitis (and expect to get) in the house.” ((Ok, ok! Stop groaning!)
Please: Tell me what we’ve learned! You’re all so funny, and I could REALLY use a good laugh right now!
Thanks Martha UYS – I don’t know if can listen (working) but will try.
Writing from Alaska – let us know how things go and stay safe (o:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/?e=10&ref=image
pass this on…especially to your Repub/Conserv friends & relatives.
@Yard Sign
“They can’t do the televised Gavel to Gavel because all the techs are in Juneau.”
Another good reason to follow the law and hold the session in Juneau.
Great Job on your letter Fan from Chicago; very well written and made great points!
I will repost my comment that was on the open thread LATE last night. I have not checked the ABC or Good Morning America webpage to see what they might have posted.
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ABC news has come on. They are mentioning the Healthcare debate battle and how on the White House webpage there are videos up to dispute the various rumors out there and debunk them.
They mention Sarah’s Facebook page as one of them. They say Good Morning America tomorrow will do a ‘ fact check ‘ on these rumors. People may want to tune in. There may be some ‘ facts ‘ that they cover that may be relevant to those debates up there in Alaska.
Follow up with ABC News to see what they go over.
To all the mudpuppies from Alaska:
I wish you well today and hope for sanity in the halls of your Governmnet. May your lawmakers be grounded in reality, and humility doing what is best for all the citizens of your great state.
mo Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 7:14 AM
Wow. The perfect title, bull’s-eye essay, and a zinger last line:
http://egan.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/palins-poison/
I’m so in awe of people who can write stuff like this.
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I loved that thanks for the link
Someone mentioned that Shannyn had the Story up on Huffpo now, from yesterday. It covered her Medicaid scandal and the health debate issues. I tried rebutting some of the troll comments on there last night. I recognized some of the Mudflat regulars and there is one particular Palinbot sea of pee fan (I had seen her posts at the other site weeks ago-before I stopped popping in) Jean55 that likes to go on Huffpo to defend $arah about anything she does. She’s one of their regulars over there and tries to spread disinformation and give the $arah excuses… they are picking on her… she has all this debt because….etc.
I tried dropping as many links to the Scandal, AKM’s,Firedoglake, Audreys post as well.
They mod and scrub some but as I was telling ‘ not that sarah’ here the other day if you post and link as a ‘reply ‘ under someone else’s comment rather than the first comment it doesn’t seem to get the mod scrutiny… as much.
#61 Doesn’t matter whether she wrote it or not. She’s being talked about. Quite simple.
DING DING DING we have a winner!!!
As long as ANYone pays attention to that trollop, she wins.
Now, THIS is scary!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/gabrielle-giffords-town-h_n_255656.htmlv
I bet silly sarah is spitting nails over the huffpo about Kathy Griffin and Levi’s
appearance together at the Teen Choice Awards. Mostly it probably makes her
mad because nobody but scarah should get any face time. Funny, too, because a lot of the comments are pro Levi a few nasty ones regarding him milking his 15 minutes of fame, etc. Botton line is that nobody milked it the way the dimwit did, only she gets tons of negative comments, publicity,etc.
honesty, I took your advice and it worked much better! I posted the link to Shannyn’s article here on another thread last night. The thing that really bugs me is how the people who write me are up in arms, wondering why MSM doesn’t report on the trouble in AK. Talk about not vetting someone. Holy Cow.
A conservative activist named Kenneth Gladney of St. Louis was injured in a fight during a town hall protest. He claims he was beaten up by SEIU protestors. Video, however, shows that he was beating on an SEIU representative already on the ground when another SEIU protestor pulled him down. The video shows him walking around afterwards. However, now he is in a wheelchair, protesting, claiming he injured his knee, shoulder, hip, and head.
Other conservative activists are taking donations to help pay for his health care because he was recently laid ff and has no health insurance.
Can you believe this? He’s protesting health cae reform and e has no health care insurance!!!!!!!!!
I would link this but I don’t know how to link
@samper
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/palin-backs-off-death-pan_n_255317.html
PROOF postive…palin is one crazy, disturbed, desperate, confused, claims-no-responsibility, MADWOMAN! She needs to be ‘caught’ and commited to a facility for either drug therapy or deprogramming! UNBELIEVABLE!
SouthernMiss
What site were you on?, I will try to find it and link.
I don’t think SP wrote either of those messages on her facebook page (for obvious reasons). I don’t even think it was the same person who wrote both messages. They just don’t sound the same. Maybe Newt wrote the first one & as someone else suggested Rick Warren wrote the second one. Consistency doesn’t seem to follow Miss SP.
Chicago – OMG you cracked me up with the toothpaste “outing”.
uklady:the site you are looking for is Huff.post
92@SouthernMiss
I think his head injury happened a while ago, perhaps at birth!
SouthernMiss, he has healthcare, didn’t he have to go to an emergency room for the terrible injuries he sustained?
I say sue him and make him show the proof of injury from a real doctor.
I read the NYT story about ” Palin’s Poison” and went down the first page of comments. There seem to be a lot of Sara-Bots who go there to defend here when these stories come out. A few say of course the NYT is against her, it’s a hit-piece, she speaks the Truth (Capitalized,… because it was important I guess?) and no one listens to her, Palin 2012 next President you’ll see, and then the ones who said this story was just a slam but you never talked about what ‘facts’ were wrong.
Helllooooo… Bueller..? She MADE IT UP. How can you prove something or point to facts to debunk it when they are all made up.
They just bow and sing praise to the ‘ Idol Palin ‘.
Wasn’t it Moses that was told to tell his People to not to pray to false Gods…( idol worship )… etc? 1000′s of years later…. AND ‘ the people ‘ havn’t learned.
Someone hand these X-ians a Bible and tell them to read it again.
thanks otrplm.
Anyone (samper, lainey etc.), wondering about the walkback FB statement, my guess would be that someone with more nous than $P (not difficult), told her in no uncertain terms that the very next outbreak of violence at a town hall meeting whether it be a knuckle fight or a shooting, would be laid right on her doorstep with what remains of her shelf life.
there is no doubt that someone is pulling the strings of the parcel that is sp.
i suspect that her publisher/murdoch is trying to unravel her knotted persona in order to better sell the package.
(if i do say so myself, that was a clever little bit of writing…patting me on the back)
UK lady, yes– Howard Dean said she was inciting violence on national TV yesterday.
That was a new one for the Republicans..to be called out like that – and it ‘s what we call “being given official notice” that you will be held accountable. publicly.
Suddenly, Glenn Beck and Palin dialed it waaaaay back and tried to distance themselves from the lynch mobs they incited. Too late. Neither of them ever corrected their lies, either. Sort of like saying, “Obama’s gonna kill my baby! But of course, I wouldn’t want anyone to get mad at him….”
Was she born in the south, by any chance? Cuz bless her heart, that tactic is so transparent.
It is clear the Palin “brand” has been sold to Faux Noise, with her designated as the female Glenn Beck- spewing endless idiotic crap for attention.
The latest “Sarah” posts, obviously written by someone else, take on the classic Beck pattern: Day 1 encourage riots. Day 2 plea for calm. Day 3 call for the murder of the Speaker of the House. It keeps the idiots stirred up, and the ratings up, and that is all that matters to the haters and traitors at Faux.
I have several explanations for Sarah’s conflicting Facebook posts (one minute poor Trig & the Heath’s are standing in front of the Death Panel and in the next, she admonishes people to tone down the rhetoric and engage in meaningful discussion):
One post is written on medication; one post is written without medication.
Each post has a different ghost writer; neither was written by Sarah. (The ghost writers forgot to check with each other).
She really hasn’t read the 1000+ page document, but wants to be sure and cover all sides of the issue.
Some Republican higher-up told her that she was making it harder and harder for them to defend their hair-brain tactics, dial it back.
Pajama-clad bloggers sitting in their parents’ basement keep hacking into her Facebook account and posting stuff in her name. For the sake of the troops, stop it!
She doesn’t know anything about health care issues; her expertise is energy. She just needs to keep her name in front of the public.
She is feeling a little sorry that she quit her job; it was easier to get attention in that high profile job than it is as an ordinary hokey mom.
She actually is writing her book; those Facebook posts are chapter 9.
(Twitter tweets are chapter 8).
The above is written with humor and tongue-in-cheek (don’t sue me). The sad truth is that MSM covers everything that she says, whether it is true or not. They give the same unwarranted attention to crazies like Michelle Bachmann. Their theory is that it is more sensational, and it doesn’t require alot of work. Now that one of the loonies brought a gun to a health care discussion in Arizona (see HuffPo) maybe the senseless violence will be the wake up call to stop the distractions and the crazy remarks and just, please, for once, try to solve the health care problems with reasonable thought and discussion. Sorry, I forgot, we’re dealing with politicians.
So, it does work! After getting that scary email about the healthcare bill, I replied to the guy who sent it to me and this is his reply:
With our modern means of communication, we have all these scare tactics and I get suckered into so many of them. I am truly happy that you gave me the Facts of this Myth, and I just completed an Action letter, and now feel better about it. I can’t remember whom I sent the letter out to with the distorted facts.
Here’s the website I sent to him, and also encouraged him to go to the whitehouse.gov site:
http://aarp.convio.net/site/PageNavigator/Myths_vs_Facts
another funny post from the fake SP Facebook page
Whoever does it has about 1000 followers and they are scrambling to “help” her latest post :
Governor Palin Wow, such a spirited debate on homosexuality! Didn’t mean to knock the bees nest over. In any event I was scouring the bible for the verse that says homosexuality is a sin and couldn’t find it. I know it’s there, but does anyone know where I can locate it? Back to HEALTH CARE!14 minutes ago · Comment · Like
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/governor.palin?__a=1
Since Sarah has yet another statement of facebook rant that backs off the first one about “death squads” it can only mean a few things.
1. She wrote the first one on a manic high
2. Palin and her ghostwriter were giddy with excitement and went too far in the first piece.
3. Palin thought that her facebook page would rally her base (kind of like, pallin around with terrorists), but she instead read that even conservatives were calling her accusations, crazy.
4. she IS crazy.
5. Whoever is pullin Palin’s puppet strings told her to reel it in.
Did Palin “jump the shark” with her accusations?
Should read……on facebook. Sorry.
That NYT piece was awesome. Unfortunately, comments are closed or I would have responded to this clown. I guess he didn’t get the news that Palin is no longer one of our “leaders”….she quit. In fact, here in the lower 48, she was never one of “our” leaders”. If God placed Sarah in her position (as this poster suggests), then Saint Sarah just quit on God. Hmmm.
Her fans are a special bunch, aren’t they?
Read this and laugh:
God bless President Obama & Gov. Sarah Palin.
We as Christians cannot speak evil of our leaders, instead we are commanded to bless them and pray that they lead us in the right direction.
“Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.” Romans 13:1
God has placed both President Obama and Gov. Palin in thier positions. So intead of mocking them and speaking evil of them, just pray for them both.
God bless President Barak Obama & Governor Sarah Palin
Polly- excellent news- way to go!!!
trisha – I can’t. I just can’t friend her. Even if it’s fake. I tried, but I got sick.
The rational thinker versus the paranoid
Presented with the same evidence…the rational thinker and the paranoid respond very differently.
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/conspiracy_theory/the_paranoid_mentality/Rational_thinker_versus_paranoid.html
Polly – I also used the AARP website to rebut the email I received from a relative. I think it’s a good way to go – It is definitely a trusted source.
Trisha -I think SP doesn’t mind saying contradictory things at different points in time.
Her supporters interpret her word salad as they like, they pick and choose what they want to hear.
Her PAC described her as a Conservative that wants to “Progress” Alaska. Conservative progressive? The best of both worlds, right? ( Or the worst )
If it takes more than two sentences to disprove one of hers, none of her base will hear it.
Funny you should mention manic phase. She is pretty erratic!
Seems others are paying attention, Daily Kos diarist commented about $P facebook post on death panel to compare her watch with elderly dying. Not sure if anyone posted this yet, if so sorry.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/10/764573/-Palins-Death-Panel-for-the-Elderly-in-Alaska
102 not that sarah Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 10:17 AM
That was a new one for the Republicans..to be called out like that …. Sort of like saying, “Obama’s gonna kill my baby! But of course, I wouldn’t want anyone to get mad at him….”
Leave it to Sarah to hide behind a disabled baby to throw rocks.
And you notice that the RepoTaliban are not holding there own public Q&A sessions. They don’t want to have to answer questions about health care. They just want to make sure that no American has the freedom to meet peacably with their elected representatives to discuss an important issue.
That, to me, is the most important point here. That the RepoTaliban is not willing, itself, to answer the same questions from the public that the Democrats are trying to address. And secondly that they are using Brown Shirt violence to achieve that end
So one of the questions for Dean, I’m sure, will be how the internet and truth seeking, truth speaking bloggers can help spread the word and attract wider audiences.
I see many of the sites that I went to in the last year struggling to survive now that the election is over. That is a big concern to me as there were so many great sources, each with their own bit of truth each with their own way of looking at the larger picture. We are now losing some really great voices.
Attackerman and The Carpetbagger Report have joined groups of bloggers, Smirking Chimp is struggling and probably lost. Combining under one mast head may be good short term, but will that combining of voices under some kind of semi-corporate organization help to or eventually stifle independent thinking and expressing?
Hope all goes well with the special session in AK today.
FYI – good post at Daily Kos – talking about the deaths of 250 + elderly on SP’s watch.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/10/764573/-Palins-Death-Panel-for-the-Elderly-in-Alaska
FYI – Kathy Griffin, Joan Rivers & Levi Johnson are on Larry King tonight on CNN. They have been advertising it all weekend as just Kathy Griffin & Joan Rivers but 2 minutes ago updated and added Levi to the program advertisement.
Marnie,
IIRC, Spencer Ackerman was ASKED to join firedoglake, rather than sought refuge there.
Great point, Marnie. Excellent.
I’m thinking of possibly organizing to get the word out to seniors with the AARP facts. Wonder if AARP is willing to send that info out to their members or have they already? do seniors in homes, for example, have access to this info?
Now that Sarah and others have toned down their hate messages, it got me to wondering….why? I am thinking that maybe the Secret Service might have “advised” them that they were on very thin ice? The Secret Service does not take kindly to threats against the President..be they open or thinly disguised. Having worked for the Federal Gov’t many years ago in Washington D.C., I observed that the Secret Service is one agency that takes its job VERY SERIOUSLY.
but they asked her to tone it down during the campaign, and she refused. I don’t think she cares about “laws” and what not from the evil “feds”.
it’s probably due to her “advisers” warning her that her public persona was taking a beating; i.e., the majority of people now know her to be a liar and a crazy person.
Although publicly being called out for inciting violence as the violence is occurring would be enough for any sane person whose word meant anything to them. But we know Sarah doesn’t put a lot of stake in her word. salad. also.
Does anyone remember the story about SP getting on a plane in TX to return to AK when her water broke with Trigg? She put her unborn child at great risk even chance of death for her baby if I recall. Can anyone dig up that info and repost it here and pass it onto to the DKos, Rachael Maddow etc.
She is such a hypocrite!!!!
I just love how the little purple snail matches the rock:)
I read this post on Huffpo regarding the new goverment web site about healthcare reform. This just makes me ill. It seems…Faux news is trying to scare people from going to the site with real information. Read this…..
I watched Fox this morning were there were discussing the White House web site. The female said, Isnt this website being use to collect names on people to retaliate against?” Didnt matter what was being talked about, the female talking head on Faux always said this, about every 20 seconds. It was amazing show of spinning out false information in its most blatant way.
wynsplc,
Secret service advising them — NOT. That’s giving too much credit to Palin that the Secret Service are going to use their time on her.
It’s quite simple — Her message from the end of last week got the attention that she & her staff wanted. That has been playing out in the media and blogs and she has succeeded in inciting her followers which will carry on. Now it’s the change of message in order to futher her visibility in the media. It too is working as you are all here writing about it together with the Huff blogs, etc, MSM.
It’s very simple play. It is not rocket science to figure it out. You are looking far to deep for the explanation and excuses. Throwing out names of people who wrote the posts etc. It’s no one that we would recognize — not Warren or anyone. She has a staff who don’t write in word salads.
People write the press releases and speeches for Obama and have done for Presidents for decades. Senators have staff doing the same. Candidates do too. It’s now the same for her. The only time you will know it’s her is when it’s on camera otherwise her staff will be writing the bulk of what appears with her name on it.
Mona Lisa, LIke I said, been there. My Lab took a direct face hit out on the porch. Ew ew that smell. Stinky also hit the back door. That was in April, the many yellow spots are still on that door. I went at it with everything I had & then some for two days. Needless to say the spots are still there. Never did find anything that will take it off. Our crazy animals, what would we do without them?
It is funny, reading the comments on the Daily Kos story about Palin’s Death Panel. They are getting all worked up and it is at the top of the rec list, they are saying things like ‘good catch’, lets get this to Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow. Can’t wait to see KO tonight!, and such like.
They weren’t even taking $P seriously until a couple of days ago, the few lone, brave souls who were trying to warn them she was dangerous were getting seriously scoffed at mostly.
They should have been reading Mudflats, we could have told them a long time ago. Plus, I would be surprised if KO didn’t already know about the healthcare for the elderly problem in AK from Shannyn, heaven only knows why he hasn’t already run with it. If you are reading Keith, this would be a good time.
It must be nice not to have to show up to work and just “telecommute” by posting a few paragraphs on a website…oh wait now, Sarah’s a blogger!! She probably wrote that while she was still in her pajamas!!
Shannyn has a post on HuffPo about the healthcare issue in AK. Hopefully, that will bring more attention to the story.
I’d don’t believe Palin wrote either Facebook “press release”. I think it was staffed out by Meg of the stapled tongue. I think the first writer was given talking points. And when it went too far (especially after being called out by Dr. Dean) a second writer was called in and given talking points and instructions to tone it down.
I’m not good enough to spot stylistic changes. But I’m hoping an expert would back me up. Two writers. Neither Palin.
As for Rush, Beck, O’Reilly et al dialing it back? Well, after that gun was found in the Town Hall meeting…they can’t dial it back. They’ve opened Pandora’s box and they’ll be held liable for it. Either in the voting booth…or the courtroom. I hope both.
I would like to hear McCain come out and support Palin now. I want to hear if he still believes she is qualified to be President.
One thing someone could do is put up a web site of all the organizations who support Health Care Reform. or is there one already?
anyway…….
Miss Scarah is showing her ignorance big time, lol.
Here are some orgs that support: (gathered from the mom’s rebuttal to Scarah)
National Down Syndrome Congress
Autism Society of America
Children and Adults with Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder
Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America
American Diabetes Association
March of Dimes
oh, I forgot AARP should also be on the list.
Speaking of dogs and skunks, one of the comments at Huffpo was ‘Like a skunk, she sprayed the room and then complained that it stank.” Good one, I thought, and timely here.
Thanks to Martha for posting the link for the special session audio. I haven’t been able to get it to work. Has anyone been able to listen?
trisha
Yes indeed, everyone should be sticking a mic into McCains face right now and getting him on record one way or the other, no hedging allowed.
I just got a call from my cousin — one of her dogs got hit by a skunk last night in her back yard. It’s the first skunk I’ve heard of around my area this year. Time to watch my front garden as I almost got hit last year. Walked out my front door and 6 feet away was Pepe in my garden!!! Almost had a screen door like in the cartoons where you run through the screen!! Very close!!
Angela,
I can’t get the link to work either.
I agree, UK Lady #133…at least I hope it’s still #133…sometimes the numbers change on me
McCain is a quack…and it doesn’t matter at all that he’s been around a while! He should be ashamed of the muck he’s introduced to his legacy!
UK Lady,
Thank you for offering to post the link. To find the story go to The Huffington Post and click on the button that says “politics”. It is right by the “home” button at the top. There is a picture and a large heading that says “Conservative Activist Needs Help with Medical Bills”. That’s probably not verbatim but very close.
I’d say that Meg wrote the first (we already know her attack ferret, over the top, fact-free style, and Ivy Frye wrote the second. Remember, Ivy was just hired on by $arahPac as well – they need to find her something to do.
Angela – I couldn’t get it to work either. Am going to try again in a bit.
Also, wish someone could check in and let us know all is okay since the early rallying.
BTW -fawnskin mudpuppy, that WAS a nice bit of writing. Pat, pat pat (o:
Southern Miss (92)
St Louis has a long history of opportunism. I am not saying that’s what happened, but I wouldn’t be surprised to hear someone somewhere saying something along those lines. Especially with that video to challenge Gladney’s claim.
Here’s one link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/conservative-activist-get_n_255440.html
There was some statement saying Gladney said on Friday that he was “hired by a tea party” something … but I couldn’t find the source. It might have been from a comment, I don’t know. Still looking.
trisha (128)
I would like to hear McCain come out and support Palin now. I want to hear if he still believes she is qualified to be President.
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You and me, both. And then justify his answer. ha.
There are a lot of different YouTube clips out there with $arah and her Witch Doctor Preacher. I found this one last week when I was doing some research. For those that have never seen it or actually listened to what he was telling people to do, watch it. Also, If someone has a better one… let me know.
Right at the beginning of this Muthee starts talking about ” God ‘invading’ society….’ infiltrating’ and influencing… etc ”
( That’s Sarah all right– lots of her BOLD key words for the Believers )
At 5:34 he says” We need God TAKING OVER Media..”
I posted this clip on Huffpo in response to a Palin-bot comment about liberals attacking her. He responded with …how dare you attack her character, say bad things about her family, libel or slander her, try to tear her family apart..etc
That got a reaction. How was I attacking her by showing her on a stage where she and her Preacher/Witch Dr. were preaching to a crowd. I showed her and his exact words. I guess we aren’t allowed to ‘ quote her’ or what she believes.
I must have missed this, I believe it is from the Palinmania article. She’s either afraid of debate or has a holier than thou attitude, or both, lol. that must have been awkward, had to be ‘coaxed’ out to talk, lol, can you imagine?
“During a campaign trip in October to New Hampshire, she balked at sharing the stage with former congressman Jeb Bradley because they differed on abortion and drilling in the Arctic wilderness,” the authors wrote. “That same day, she was reluctant to join Bradley and Senator John Sununu for conversation aboard her campaign bus and had to be coaxed out of the back of the bus to talk to them, according to a McCain adviser.”
Dr. Howard Dean has a new post at HuffPo:
The Media’s Treatment of Palin’s Outrageous “Death Panel” Claims
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/howard-dean/the-medias-treatment-of-p_b_255878.html
wynsplc Says:
Having worked for the Federal Gov’t many years ago in Washington D.C., I observed that the Secret Service is one agency that takes its job VERY SERIOUSLY.
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Not that I had any doubts, but considering the hate that has been generated recently against the Obama administration, I am VERY glad to hear that confirmed by someone ‘in the know’!
I have some friends who worked at a just-built sports venue years ago where Reagan was to appear for a ceremony. They were amazed at what they were told to do by the Secret Service to make the location safe according to ‘presidential visit’ standards. When the maintenance supervisor objected to taking down several stadium light poles that had been installed only 2 weeks before, he quickly changed his mind after one glare from the men with the dark suits, earpieces and sunglasses!
From what I’ve read and heard, the current Secret Service has a much more challenging and dangerous job than they did back in 1984. Thank goodness we have those brave men and women doing what they do!
SouthernMiss – I see Nan got your link, thanks Nan.
There is another $P story there, don’t know if you all have seen it. The Palin fathers’ cmpaigning for some Repug or other, and she had the bloody cheek to say the Pres was encouraging nepotism for listening to Rahm’s brother!
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/73384.html
Say NO to Palin in Politics Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 11:40 AM
One thing someone could do is put up a web site of all the organizations who support Health Care Reform. or is there one already?
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Actually justafarmer is working on one right now. Are you ready to go live, justa, or still tinkering?
yep, PC. I posted the link earlier but here it is again:
http://healthylookathealthcare.blogspot.com/
The unofficial Mudpuppy healthcare task force met in chat last night and the blog was one of the ideas. It’s still a work in progress and suggestions are welcome.
We’ll be meeting in chat again tonight at 10 pm ET
UK Lady
I see you’ve got our backs, too. I just came that same article about Heath and Palin (seniors) But I missed the nepotism reference… going to re-read it
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/73384.html
A couple of paragraphs in:
Both Chuck Heath and Jim Palin will be in Idaho later on this month to help out Vaughn Ward, a Republican candidate for Congress.
Speaking of nepotism… it looks like politics is fast becoming a family affair for the Palins et al.
humpf.
Also from Huffington Post; I think this is a good perspective toward reforming (or demolishing and replacing) our current health care system:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andrew-weil-md/the-wrong-diagnosis_b_254227.html
honestyinGov Says:
How was I attacking her by showing her on a stage where she and her Preacher/Witch Dr. were preaching to a crowd. I showed her and his exact words. I guess we aren’t allowed to ‘ quote her’ or what she believes.
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You’re trying to use logic against a Palinbot and you should know by now…it just doesn’t work!
There have been many examples of her loyal followers berating people for making fun of her when all they did was quote her exactly. Remember Tina Fey’s second (?) appearance as SP during the Couric interview when she read Palin’s response to a question verbatim (which ironically included something about health care reform)? All of her little lackeys got their panties in a major twist about that one. Who needs scriptwriters when you have word salad right from the source?!?!
link to session is working again.
This gets even better. Palin is slamming “death panels” which are part of the bill that is really about advanced care planning. This part of the bill was championed by pro-life Repbulican. So, Palin was actually bashing a pro-life Republican. Ha, ha, ha! I’m still not getting the leap from living wills and advanced care planning to “death panels”.
http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/08/death-panel-architect-a-pro-life-republican-from-georgia.html
From the article:
But there is nothing resembling the alleged “death panel” in the health care reform plan. A spokesperson for Palin told ABC News that the former governor was referring to a section promoting advance care planning that appears on page 425 of the House Democrats’ bill [pdf]. Advance care planning includes living wills and durable powers of attorney that allow individuals to make clear their wishes for end-of-life care, whatever they may be.
And as it turns out, the cause of advance planning has been championed especially strongly by a pro-life Republican — U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia.
I think Sarah stepped back from her vile because someone whispered in her ear that she was insulting a pro-life Repbulican who championed the exact part of the bill that Palin attacked.
She is an idiot.
I believe, although I can’t quote a source, that some Repugs actually participated in writing that part of the bill. Funny, if it weren’t so completely pathetic.
say no to palin in politics #130-
(gathered from the mom’s rebuttal to Scarah)
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Was there a rebuttal to Scarah’s comments from Mom’s? If so, do you have a link?
f not, there should be a rebuttal, as it seems many mothers are upset the way Palin continues to use her kids, and many mom’s with special needs children are pro healthcare reform.
My sister has a special needs child she and a Republican. But, she can’t stand the way Palin uses her child for political points and is hopeful that the reform would help her child.
I just received an email…. has anyone else gotten one like this..?
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Dear:
By now, I’m sure you’ve heard about the lobbyist-funded right-wing extremists making trouble at town halls all across America.
These disruptions are funded by special interests like the insurance companies, who want to kill health care reform as quickly as possible.1 They’re trying to make sure nobody can have a productive, rational conversation about what health care reform will do for you and me. We can’t let them stifle debate or we will not win health care reform this year.
So, we’ve organized a special briefing with Texas Representative Lloyd Doggett, actress Edie Falco, Richard Kirsch, Health Care for America Now’s National Campaign Director, and Dan Heck, a regional director for Working America and Health Care for America Now to get the facts out about health care reform, find out what’s at stake, and learn what you and I can do to help pass reform.
Can you join us for a special briefing on Tuesday, August 11th at 9 pm EST (6 pm PST) to learn about health care reform and how to right back against the lobbyist-funded right-wing? Click here to RSVP.
MinNJ, I think the reference to the Repubs who championed that particular amendment was made on Rachel Maddow on Friday night. One of them was Maine’s Susan Collins, I think. She’s pretty moderate.
The organization is my # 157 post is called Health Care for America.org
It says the website has locations of meeting going on in your area as well as other info.
Craig Campbell confirmed as Lt Gov
the problem child Says:
August 10th, 2009 at 1:29 PM
MinNJ, I think the reference to the Repubs who championed that particular amendment was made on Rachel Maddow on Friday night. One of them was Maine’s Susan Collins, I think. She’s pretty moderate.
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That’s good. It’s on Huffpo now so more people can see how Palin was attacking Republican’s. Wow………just wow.
Could she be more clueless?
Greydog – Campbell confirmed – bummer.
Phil is on fire tonight over on Progressive Alaska ->>> link on right.
‘The Blood of the 254 Victims of Her Own Death Panel Made Her This Crazy’
They just overturned Palin’s veto!
@trisha
And as it turns out, the cause of advance planning has been championed especially strongly by a pro-life Republican — U.S. Sen. Johnny Isakson of Georgia.
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instead of just whispering in her ear…why doesn’t this Senator grow a pair and come forward publicly?…make an example out of her in public!!! This might curb her bold-faced lies somewhat and inform that entire crazy half that this won’t be tolerated if their to be taken seriously…and be a warning for anyone else thinking about doing the same unfactual rants. Come on Conservatives! Be adults!
WTF???
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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/73384.html
Palin fathers will campaign for Idaho Republican candidate
By Erika Bolstad | McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON — The fathers of Sarah and Todd Palin will be joining forces this month to help an Idaho congressional candidate who’s getting an early start on his 2010 election bid.
Both Chuck Heath and Jim Palin will be in Idaho later on this month to help out Vaughn Ward, a Republican candidate for Congress. They’ll be attending events for Ward at the end of the month in Boise and Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, Ward’s campaign spokesman said.
Thank God!!! They overode veto. I have a list of the yeas and nays too. Took nores. More later but busy.
Campbell was confirmed too, no surprise.
Notes not nores – sorry o:
WEATHERIZATION FOR ALL ALASKANS!!!!
WOO HOO!!!
I’m really, really hoping that SP gets called to testify before congress on the predator control bill. She’s an expert at all that wildlife, gutteral bear stuff you betcha.
Got to go to bed, falling asleep at keypad. Would be really grateful if anyone watches Keith Olbermann and posts a short breakdown so I can read in morning with my cup of tea. TY
Someone posted on another blog that Palin is now throwing Alaska politicians under the bus now that she has quit. I haven’t heard anything about this….insights anyone?
well Sarah’s made the big time , now! She was just the topic of a question on Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
For $4000 , what is Sarah Palin’s husband’s name?? (key the stressful music)
The guy got it but missed the next question about Seinfeld so left with only the $4K he made off of Sarah. I wonder if she’ll have Meg autograph it for him.
Martha @ 165-
WASHINGTON — “The fathers of Sarah and Todd Palin will be joining forces this month to help an Idaho congressional candidate who’s getting an early start on his 2010 election bid.
Both Chuck Heath and Jim Palin will be in Idaho later on this month to help out Vaughn Ward, a Republican candidate for Congress.”
How embarrassing. The Palin Pops do Idaho because the local republican candidate doesn’t deserve the full Sarah.
Sarah Mania! Sarah Palin’s Greatest Hits by TPM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E&NR=1
I thought I could never see the bailout answer too often, but there is so much more comedy to this woman.
Tonight on Countdown, Keith O completely and totally ripped into Sarah and others on the “Death Panel” facebook article with a Special Comment segment.
“Can anybody think of a better way for Sarah Palin to exploit her child than for her to make up a little story about how Democrats want to kill him?
How can she possibly top this?”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×6271102
wynsplc – YES! Keith SKEWERED HER!
once again…Rachel was brilliant! talking about palin remarks, attempt at retraction, and all the other ‘fringe’ behavior….brilliant!
mudpup healthcare task force is in chat…join us for the conversation and suggestions
#165 Martha
#173 Lori in Los Angeles
The Palin family are originally from Idaho and I believe that is where Sarah was born. Idaho is also home to some radical political groups. One of which promotes secesssion(sp) from the US. Both her father and Todd were members of the Alaskan Independence Party (which advocated breaking away from the US). It has been reported that Todd and maybe Sarah were members for 7 years. She even gave a speech at one of their meetings. I believe it was when she was actively involved with politics in Wasilla.
Sarah Palin Psychic Profile:
Peggy Rometo on Why Alaska’s Former Governor Will Bow Out of 2012 Presidential Election
http: www. wowowow. com/
very insightful…don’t know if its posted here yet….
Levi on Kathy Griffin (subbing for Larry King)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/10/levi-johnston-and-kathy-g_n_256165.html
Levi had that quiet charm and was a little more mature than I’ve seen him in past TV interviews (unlike his baby’s mama or granny)…guess he’s feeling more comfortable on screen.
Levi + Kathy = another great move by Levi’s advisers
Here’s Keith Olbermann’s “Special Comment” on Sarah Palin’s “death panel” statement. Wow! He set her fanny on fire!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c-UxRfmtiI
Where are those Alaska Fund Trust disclosures? And the rest of the disclosures? And the handcuffs for Palin?
She’s innocent, that’s why…she’s innocent…and a MILF.
Levi’s performance opposite that cougar should not have been on t.v. I wanted to jump in and rescue him from his stuttering, muttering, no quick comeback, could barely read aloud, self. Sheesh, who’s idea was that?
Rex and Tank better get on the ball and get that boy a speech coach and personality coach or else he’s dooomed, dooooooomed, I say. Good grief Levi, no wonder Sarah was able to run rings around you.
At this point Levi is the anti-role model for boys. He better get a clue or buy a clue cuz he’s painful to watch.
Levi hit the gym and up the protein for some muscles boy, you’re looking flabby and flabby boys ain’t bringin home the bacon.
All the best if you get with the program.
aha Says:
August 11th, 2009 at 1:54 AM
Levi’s performance opposite that cougar should not have been on t.v. I wanted to jump in and rescue him from his stuttering, muttering, no quick comeback, could barely read aloud, self. Sheesh, who’s idea was that?
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I think you missed the point, the point being that Levi was playing the fall guy. I think he did extraordinarily well for playing off such a powerful force as Kathy Griffin, whom he hardly knows.
You cannot criticize Levi because he’s not very interesting, that’s unfair.
Criticism is cheap, free even and as such I can afford to had it out liberally….lol. But all in good fun.
I’m pulling for Levi, but he been stuttering, and mumbling ever since we’ve first seen him on the stage. It’s time for him to Man Up and speak with a Voice because people want to hear what he’s got to say…and seriously I applaud all the experiences out of the alaska woods he’s had to help him ‘grow’…noone can take that from him.
Now, as a guy, I tell Levi, “Go get yours son!” I wanna see some honeys on your arm not some cougar…make us proud.