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Saxby Chambliss – Death Panel Denier?

Republican Senator Saxby Chambliss from Georgia had a few interesting things to say about health care.  You’ll recall that Sarah Palin was credited with Chambliss’ re-election and was quickly cast in the role of Republican Kingmaker…the secret weapon…the fairy godmother in shiny red shoes whose nifty glitter wand could tap you on the  head and simultaneously fill your coffers and win you the election.

The scene begins as you might expect.  Imagine a hot sultry day.  You’re in Atlanta, Georgia.  You’ve gathered with others at the Augusta Museum for a chamber of commerce forum on health care reform with Senator Saxby Chambliss. You know what’s coming.

A woman speaks.

“My concern is all this talk about death panels.  All the bureaucracy that people have to go through.”

Here we go.  Death Panels, right off the bat.  But wait…

The death panel rumors were given credence by Sarah Palin who campaigned with Georgia Senator Saxby Chambliss in Augusta back in November. Chambliss is looking to distance himself from Palin on his latest trip to Augusta.

“I don’t agree with her that there will be death panels created by any of the plans that are out there,” said Chambliss.

“I commend the president for spending political capital to bring this issue to the forefront,” said Chambliss. “We’ve talked about reforming health care for years, but we’ve never gotten around to it.”

Chambliss reached across the aisle as Senator Ted Kennedy, a champion for health care reform, loses his battle to cancer.

“The Senate is a family,” said Chambliss. “We are all good friends within the Senate, and Senator Kennedy was a great legislator.”

Well, pass me a fan and a glass of sweet tea.  I do believe I am overcome.

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August 27th, 2009

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80 to “Saxby Chambliss – Death Panel Denier?”


  1. 1
    Seagull Junker PalinNo Gravatar says:

    Glory be! Me too AKM, feeling a little faint here.

  2. 2
    karen in ORNo Gravatar says:

    I too need smelling salts. Is a new breeze stirring?

  3. 3
    Mother Who ThinksNo Gravatar says:

    Well bless his heart!

  4. 4
    Lori in Los AngelesNo Gravatar says:

    Yep, still another Republican for the Palinistas to hate! They are VERY angry at Chambliss right now, “after all Sarah DID for him!” How DARE he tell the truth about the “death panels!” How DARE he contradict the Queen!
    Scarah campaigned for Chambliss because his election victory was a done deal in that State. Then she and her minions gave Scarah ALL the credit for his re-election. I wonder how many GOPers have asked quittypants to come and campaign for them now? A no-show, UNtitled diva. I have not heard of ANYONE (except Rick Perry) thinking she would improve their chances.
    crickets.

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    RationalistNo Gravatar says:

    Well, okay then!

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    WinskiNo Gravatar says:

    PLEASE muddy…I grew up around folks like Chambliss.. Don’t let this chameleon fool you.. He’ll NEVER vote for anything that comes from a Democratic congress – EVER.

    And on a day when he gets a campaign contribution for anyone attached to the health or medical field in any way, if any inference to influence ‘peddling’ is made, Chambliss will cut you with a 6-inch banana knife he carries with him at all times. This is a dangerous man and don’t ever forget it…

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    libbyNo Gravatar says:

    Careful, folks…Chambliss is a rat. He will always be a rat. I wouldn’t believe anything that came out of his mouth.

    I’ll celebrate the fact that he publicly denied Palin’s claims but I won’t give that a whole lot of weight.

    I agree, Winski, he is a dangerous man.

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    Enjay in E.MTNo Gravatar says:

    Oh ? They are a “family” – stabbing each other in the back – maybe other Repubs will start speaking THE TRUTH –

    But I won’t hold my breath

    One Atta Boy does not remove all those Aw Chits he has accumulated

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    lexkyNo Gravatar says:

    my ex in laws are from red georgia and i can tell you i almost fell out of the chair when i read this.
    picture this…me :) a true blue democrat in the middle of red georgia at christmas with a house full or religous red repubs.
    can you say akward
    they survived :)

  10. 10
    GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust ScrambleNo Gravatar says:

    Trust me, Saxby’s one of those Cicero was talking about when he said “Politicians are not born, they are excreted”.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00002685&type=C

  11. 11
    michiganderNo Gravatar says:

    Well, I say give credit where credit’s due and am cautiously optimistic.

    Come on, we’re trying to get the Repubs to change and when they speak the truth we’re gonna slam ‘em?

    Let’s hope for the best, keep writing, emailing and calling and if someone does something positive encourage them to do more.

  12. 12
    Apphouse50No Gravatar says:

    Maybe ol’ Saxby took a count of all the banks in Georgia that have been “eated” and calculated the number just of those folks whose COBRA will be running out before too long, and has gotten nervous at the phone calls coming in from actual voters?

    I keep waiting for signs that these clowns will figure out how much they’re hurting their own states with their preposterous, inhuman stances. Could this be one such sign? Wouldn’t it be nice?

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    MonaLisa IS MY NAME!No Gravatar says:

    (Whah… Ah do declayah!) Ah, too, may fahnd mahself succumbing to th’ vaypahs…

    Also.

    But I say ‘Yay, Saxby.’ and give myself permission to forget about his ’08 choice of holiday greeting card.

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    GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust ScrambleNo Gravatar says:

    @michigander

    You can be sure if Saxby hears a whisper of a backlash from this, he’ll be falling all over himself to recant.

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    tomandlouNo Gravatar says:

    I’m pretty certain that faced with a decision about what is or is’nt a good reason to to say” Pull the plug ” most people would’nt have a clue about what to do ! Counseling is a must for a living will ! It’s of utmost importance to understand what you might not want to endure and on the other hand what you would endure to stay alive .Frankly anyone who says different is deluding themselves.Ask anyone who has had to make that decision for a loved one .God forbid your ln a bed barely able to talk and you have to make that call for yourself.It’s not that long ago that we wern’t aware of options.It’s common sense to have it available to us now.

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    Leota2No Gravatar says:

    I’ll take the tea, wave the fan–but will get a kevlar vest if I stand next to Chambliss. Attila the Hun would deny the death panel idiocy, but Chambliss is just misty over Kennedy for a minute. His true scales and vestigial fangs will come out again with a NO vote.

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    Wow. I know, I know, we shouldn’t get too excited about it. But just think of all the times that this statement, maybe in a weak moment, can be replayed whenever the rethugs trot out the false rumors about health care reform.

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    jc in coNo Gravatar says:

    I never trusted that guy and didn’t see one thing I liked about him. Finally, I can now say I like one think about him, he smacked down princess winky publically. Isn’t there a mudpup that can go boating by the casa palin and see if there are cars in the driveway or the windows are boarded up or whatever?

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    KaJoNo Gravatar says:

    Chambliss will probably have to apologize to Rush Limbaugh, too, after this Fox pas… :)

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    zyggyNo Gravatar says:

    Oh Missyquittypants will just sheet her pants after reading that. =)

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    the problem childNo Gravatar says:

    It’s all about political expediency. And I’m sure he can walk it back for his base, but he is now on record saying something reasonable. He will have to find another excuse not to vote for it.

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    KaJoNo Gravatar says:

    I wonder if any of those frickin’ “death panel” Republican obstructionists in Congress happened to be listening to MSNBC an hour or so ago when Andrea Mitchell covered in great detail how Ted Kennedy and his family discussed his end-of-life care, where he wished to spend his last hours, and how he wanted to be prepared for interment…

    You know, holding a family “death panel”…. :/

    Maybe the Repubs think only wealthy Senators do things like that, it shouldn’t be something the unwashed and uninsured masses should think about, or that any insurance company should spend valuable stockholders’ money paying for.

  23. 23
    SouthernMuckrackerNo Gravatar says:

    Saxby Chambliss said that?. Are you absolutely sure?

  24. 24
    nswfm CANo Gravatar says:

    Worked with a woman (who was a member of the Young Republicans and whose family came over on the Mayflower and lived in the same town for 7 generations) when I was in NYC. She went to college in the South. I, you will see in a moment, did not. We had a business trip to one of the Carolinas. We got there early and she showed me some places before the work part started. I commented how nice people were in the South. She said they were nice to your face, but would stab you in the back and ruin your reputation before you knew it. I think the people who know the South from the comments know what’s real. Don’t fall for it–he’s the one fondling his granddaughter in his campaign ad.

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    Greytdog ΔNo Gravatar says:

    Sometimes, not often, but sometimes, being in the shadow of a giant like Ted Kennedy requires that others look up towards the same light that casts that shadow. Perhaps Chambliss had a “come to Jesus moment” in the dark night of his soul. . . .Or perhaps he had been tipplin’ himself some Comfort ahead of time. . . .

  26. 26
    tigerwineNo Gravatar says:

    AKM – I’ll join you in that glass of sweet tea! There might be hope for GA yet. Isacson, the last I heard was a “maybe” on the health issue, but insisting on torte reform.

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    pvazwindyNo Gravatar says:

    Palin=Dead Meat

  28. 28
    majiiNo Gravatar says:

    Chambliss and Isakson are my senators. They have done nothing for the citizens of GA. They spend their time and political capital in helping businesses. Neither one has been to my city to hold townhalls, even though my city is #5 in size and population in the entire state. Shameless came here to give a speech to a group of businessmen/women at the local Chamber of Commerce. Isakson and Shameless did come here to speak to hospital administrators and doctors. They did not come to my city and hold townhalls because it is an oasis of blue in the middle of the state, and they were afraid they’d be confronted by pro-hc reformers. I don’t have any expectation that either of them will vote in favor of hc reform. I have a conservadem congresscritter whose townhall I attended on Monday in a city nearby, but all he would say is he’s opposed to all of the bills in Congress, and he’s a fiscal conservative. Of course, this made the wingers extremely happy. The one thing he didn’t do was share HIS plan for hc reform.
    See, the wingers here keep voting them into office on the basis of their Christianity, their support of the 2nd Amendment, pro-life, anti-immigration, and pro-business stances. It doesn’t matter that they do not work on behalf of the citizens. It only matters that they say the right things. Shameless “cuts” meetings in the Senate to play golf with Tiger Woods. Shameless and Isakson voted against the stimulus, for the flawed F22, and against mortgage cramdown. They lie constantly. When it was revealed that Isakson had previously co-sponsored a piece of legislation involving advance directives during the Bush Administration, Isakson came out the very next day saying what he had done was not related to advance directives as described in one of the current hc bills. He couldn’t wait to reassure the wingers that, contrary to what the evidence showed, he was against advanced directives and hc reform. I sent each of them a long email yesterday to let them know that if they are not going to work toward solving American’s problems, they need to leave Congress. I also let them know that the people are sick and tired of them hiding behind fiscal conservativism, considering the fact that we are spending $12 billion each month in Iraq alone. Get ready for them to ramp up the “the deficit is too large, Obama is spending too much money, and it’s impossible to get hc reform done now meme.” This is the next lie. Obama’s spending is only 16% of the deficit, and the rest is Bush’s spending. This is what an analysis of the deficit shows, but we all know they’ll lie about what the analysis really says about Bush’s profligate spending. Bush didn’t have a way to pay for the taxcuts or the 2 wars, and the republicans weren’t worried about it. We need hc reform so now is the time to become fiscal conservatives again. A pox on them.

  29. 29
    Judy5centsNo Gravatar says:

    The thing about The South is that us Yankees have taken it over. Eight years we left our home in Aurora, Indiana when my husband was transferred to Wilmington, North Carolina. By the way. Wilmington is the only American city to have successfully overthrown its legally elected government in a racially motivated violent coup. You can’t get much more Deep South than that.

    In the time we’ve lived here, I’ve met more people who’ve moved here from someplace else (Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Ohio, California to name a few) than born and bred Wilmingtonians. Our senators and congressman know they represent the transplanted Northerners just as much as the Sons and Daughters of the South. We outnumber them now.

    Lots of us Buckeyes and Hoosiers have moved to Atlanta. And registered to vote. I’m sure Saxby Chambliss has figured that out. Even though I’m hesitant to trust a Republican senator who received support from SP, I’m glad to see that he’s smart enough to realize that our government would never sanction Death Panels.

    And here in the South, you can say anything about anyone, as long as you say “Bless his heart” afterwards. As in “Saxby Chambliss is an mean old facist, bless his heart.’

  30. 30
    Lani Formerly Bash Budweiser PalinNo Gravatar says:

    While is is nice that he denied the “death panels”, he doesn’t support insurance reform, just some tax credits so we can make down payments on useless insurance policies. That nasty little fact is mentioned at the bottom of the article AKM linked.

    “Senator Chambliss says he would like to see the government provide tax credits. He says he could not support the current house bill that would pay for reform by possibly taxing the rich. ” He doesn’t support a public option.

  31. 31
    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    with insurance being in his top 5 campaign contributors, I don’t think he’ll be voting yes on this health care reform. But at least he did smack down Scarah’s bs.

    Really, I hope Kennedy’s death and memorial is a powerful force with all these Senator’s, many of them should be ashamed for bad behavior ever since Obama took office.

    Let’s hope they find a heart and grow a pair to do the right thing. But I wont hold my breath, they can’t handle the cost factor and they owe the insurance companies. They have to vote no to appease them and keep what money coming as long as they can, but they know it will pass and save the day.

    Remember the shape the repub party is in, they are weak and gasping.
    The election is not that far away, and they need to start campaigning, which takes mula.

  32. 32
    emrysaNo Gravatar says:

    don’t buy it. I live in ga and I can tell you that saxby is the perfect example of a good-old-boy who doesn’t care about anyone who is not like him. typical old white male republican. my guess is that he’s trying to sound reasonable because someone he knows stands to make good money off of “reform” – not the kind of reform we need, but the kind the kind of “reform” that will mandate profits for insurance companies.

  33. 33
    michiganderNo Gravatar says:

    I went from feeling good after reading AKM’s post to sad, like what’s the point in trying.

    Why are we sending emails, signing petitions for healthcare Reform and the Public Option if there is no hope?

    I can’t even explain myself right now. I am sad, disappointed and frustrated. Sorry

  34. 34
    daisydemNo Gravatar says:

    It may just be your wonderful way to turn a phrase … but it comes off as sounding sincere, and if it is, wow … there is some HOPE after all. I know this is just one positive comment from one usually antagonistic Republican, but baby steps do work.

  35. 35
    nswfm CANo Gravatar says:

    I got this as an email (with all the emails exposed in the pass it ons from a guy on several boards, etc. Kinda shocked when I saw my name on top, but this person sent it to all in his address book, from what I could tell):

    Please pass this on!!

    On Tuesday, the Senate health committee voted 12-11 in favor of a two-page amendment courtesy of Republican Tom Coburn that would require all Members and their staffs to enroll in any new government-run health plan. Yet all Democrats — with the exceptions of acting chairman Chris Dodd, Barbara Mikulski and Ted Kennedy via proxy — voted nay.
    It took me less than a minute to sign up to require our congressmen and senators to drink at the same trough! Three cheers for Congressman John Fleming of Louisiana!

    Congressman Fleming (Louisiana physician) has proposed an amendment that would require congressmen and senators to take the same healthcare plan they force on us (under proposed legislation they are curiously exempt). Congressman Fleming is encouraging people to go on his Website and sign his petition (very simple – just first, last and email). I have immediately done just that at:http://fleming.house.gov/index.html. Please urge as many people as you can to do the same!

    If Congress forces this on the American people, the Congressmen should have to accept the same level of health care for themselves and their families. My apologies if you’ve already received this, but it’s too important to let congress just ram this legislation thru – this is the only way they will slow down and think about this!

    PS – it may take a couple of tries to sign onto the petition as the website has been overloaded – just hit the “back” arrow and resubmit until it goes thru.
    —-
    Maybe everyone should be subject to the same health insurance and we should have what Federal Employees have. Or what Country-First John McCain has.

  36. 36
    nswfm CANo Gravatar says:

    29 Judy5cents Says: August 27th, 2009 at 1:23 PM,
    Did some of those that left CA say they were dems or just repubs who thought we were going too dem? Also, talked with one of my favorite NY lawyers who said the firm we both used to work at was pushing people out of Manhattan, so one of his former colleagues moved to Charlotte rather than lose his job.

  37. 37
    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    he*l, I should have said they are campaigning already, free press, some of them aren’t getting much good bang for the free buck, those stupid enough to go with Scarah, Bachman, Beck and Rush, lol

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    UK LadyNo Gravatar says:

    Sounds like Chambliss is a wily old pol who knows when someone is the KISS OF DEATH.

    He is putting as much distance as he can from her campaigning for hm.

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    tlgeiger62No Gravatar says:

    I have written at least 2 open letter to my illustrious Senator Chambliss. He refuses to support a public option or single payer. Here are some of his thoughts (directly from the horse’s mouth).

    “I do not believe that a health care overhaul bill should include a government run option to provide health coverage. Such an alternative would be able to charge much lower rates and would reimburse providers at a much lower level than private insurance plans and limit competition rather than fostering it.”

    He may have denouced the death panels but he is still a horse’s patoot. I pull my hair out on a daily basis here in GA dealing with these rethug reps and senators.

  40. 40
    DianeNo Gravatar says:

    I congratulate Sen. Chambliss for his “courage” in denying lies.
    It appears to take a lot of courage for republicans these days to deny lies.
    Think of how crazy that sounds and you will know how low the republican party has sunk.

    Is that women crazy? Or she has never ever dealt with an insurance Co. before.
    Bureaucracy, thy other name IS insurance companies.

    Perhaps we should send emails to Chambliss thanking him for setting the meeting straight.

  41. 41
    michiganderNo Gravatar says:

    daisydem @34 – glad I came back to read. Ironic you posted something positive at the same time as my comment. Thanks I needed that.

    I really think we need to hang on to hope and not be so negative. Some comments were just really getting me down.

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    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    tlgeiger, ask him who provides his health care coverage, lol, I don’t give a frick about insurance co’s, all we want is the same d*m thing he has.

    “I do not believe that a health care overhaul bill should include a government run option to provide health coverage. Such an alternative would be able to charge much lower rates and would reimburse providers at a much lower level than private insurance plans and limit competition rather than fostering it.”

  43. 43
    michiganderNo Gravatar says:

    Diane – I like that idea. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Maybe even mention Teddy’s wish for the public option and how much ‘respect’ and future supporters Chambliss would garner…. (o:

  44. 44
    Say NO to Palin in PoliticsNo Gravatar says:

    Oh I get it, we all need to get government jobs for decent health coverage. Hmmm, grow government………

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    tewiseNo Gravatar says:

    michagander I don’t think they were intentionally being negative, but as my other Georgia pups have said shameless is shameless and a snake in the grass. Shameless just hasn’t let you know when the other foot will fall to wipe out that atta boy for standing up against quittertwitter. If I remember correctly Isaackson (sp) had been pushing for that conference with Dr.’s about end of life counseling for quiet some time. But in my opinion he is just as much a skunk as shameless. Needless to say neither one should catch on fire standing next to me and need watering, it ain’t happening.

  46. 46
    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    Huh…

  47. 47
    CoyoteMartiNo Gravatar says:

    Well, ya know, even the most useless (‘bless his heart’) repub can smell dead fish. Poor Sarah, stayed too long at the fair. Wait, she left early. No, she didn’t show up at all. Heck, I’m so confused.

    Shout out to all y’all Alaskans: please keep working to get Sen Begich to support the public option (you know… Teddy Care). It is going to be a tough courageous call for him in such a red state. We are working really hard to drag Warner in Virginia over the line. Both he and Mark are listed as among the top 5 gettables. Good hunting!

  48. 48
    tewiseNo Gravatar says:

    2 years ago my COBRA ran out in Georgia, I went around in circles trying to find insurance because I became injured on the job, numerous surgeries, was classified with a catastrophic injury and to retain my original Blue Cross Blue Shield was going to cost me almost 900 a month, yep, 900 dollars a month. Same insurance I had while employed and it jumped over 700 dollars a month. So for almost 4 years I had no insurance, was still waiting for Disability, wasn’t allowed to work and couldn’t find any assistance from our capital patooties, including our insurance commissioner. Nothing the insurance company was doing was illegal so nothing could help me. I have very little patience for any of these ignorant, incompetent so called experts telling me that my President has it wrong, it can’t work, because as far as I am concerned he is the only one with enough hair on his behind to try to fix and help the rest of us that are getting screwed.

  49. 49
    BigSlickNo Gravatar says:

    No disrespect to the late Senator Kennedy, but when he died, his secrets did not die with him. They have changed ownership.

    I wonder who he left his secrets to in his Will?

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    GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust ScrambleNo Gravatar says:

    “Senator Chambliss says he would like to see the government provide tax credits. He says he could not support the current house bill that would pay for reform by possibly taxing the rich. ” He doesn’t support a public option.
    ———
    How do tax credits help folks who don’t make enough money to pay taxes? Can they exchange them for dollars?

    Just another bait and switch.

  51. 51
    BystanderNo Gravatar says:

    So far today a KS Republican has called for a “Great White Hope”, a white guy to run against Obama (racist reference to Jack Johnson circa 1910) a WA Repub has congratulated a town hall meeting protestor who identified himself as a “right wing terrorist”, and an ID Repub has joked about an “Obama tag” a hunting license to kill Obama.

    I literally expect a Republican politician to show up tomorrow wearing a hood, a sheet and a noose, and he or she will fit right in with the rest of the party.

  52. 52
    weaver57No Gravatar says:

    tlgeiger – I received a reply from McChinless (KY), and I can’t even begin to figure out how to make a coherent reply. He has so much BS in the letter, that I simply cannot figure out where to start. And I guess, what he does not understand, is that insurance tells us which doctors we can see, which procedures we can have (I know from experience). I would dearly like the insurance that he has including their drug plan. Medicare Plan D with its donut hole stinks. Each year the premiums and copays go up. Have you heard of “expensive generics” which put you in Tier 2? Yeah. OK, enough rant. I will still contact my hopeless congress people (Chandler & Yarmouth excluded) at least so far.

  53. 53
    Lee323No Gravatar says:

    Saxby’s ego is probably still smarting from the perception that he only won because Palin “delivered” the votes with her campaigning for one day on his behalf. (At least that’s the perception that Palin and her minions have tooted about liberally.) It must have chapped his arse royally that people were giving her most of the credit for his winning when the win was already in the bag, ostensibly from his own efforts.

    Now that her star has fallen precipitously since those heady days during and immediate post-election, I suspect his death panel disagreement with his “Patroness” was a politically enjoyable way of showing everyone he’s not a lap dog beholden to the now disgraced flake of the GOP.

    He might lose a few points for not going along with party line of the death panel lie but he was able to kill two birds with one stone: 1) Tell the truth….it will come out anyway. 2) Give the appearance that he’s really his own man.

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    not that sarahNo Gravatar says:

    WHAT??? I have called and emailed his office and no one has EVER cared about my concerns re healthcare.

    They’ve all but laughed in my yankee face for daring to call at all, and now…

    Now, the man whose connections to a sugary refinery which exploded and killed many people in GA, is denying Death Panels?

    Well, I might could feel a bit faint. I have NO idea what’s going on with him. None, whatsoever. OH, but I will add that all of the Palin helping him get elected meme seemed at odds with the reality I saw when she came to GA. No media even covered her events in some areas.

    I mean, it’s the south – not a graveyard for morons. Only some people like her in the south. She’s hardly “popular”.

  55. 55
    GasmanNo Gravatar says:

    Chambliss, who seems an unlikely candidate for bipartisanship, is either being sincere or he sees the handwriting on the wall. Republicans complained about Medicare back in the 60′s when it was being proposed, but when it was clear that it would be a historic vote, some Republicans did indeed forget their party’s objections and vote for the measure. I suspect that healthcare reform could end up playing out the same way. Several R Senators have spoken in glowing terms about Ted Kennedy. Will Hatch honor his friend’s memory and back a bill Kennedy would have liked or will Hatch simply march lockstep with the imbecilic clods that constitute the Republicans in congress?

    With the support for a genuine public option at about 75%, any senator or rep. who ignores that kind of support does so at their own peril. They would merely be providing campaign ad fodder for their would be opponents.

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    not that sarahNo Gravatar says:

    I’m sorry, I know many want to feel good about this- and I think we can feel great that he denounced lies. That is a good step! But to think it reflects on his true character or intentions is a huge mistake.

    He is the guy who ran against a triple amputee Iraq war vet and branded him a “coward”. There was also election fraud there that year, which many suspect got Chambliss into office, as the exit polls were quite different from the final result.

    The reason he won the run-off was not because he’s so wildly popular: the original election results were so close (2008) that a run-off was called for. The Obama voters did not come out for the vote, AND many conservatives were motivated to vote, knowing that their lives had just been turned upside down by Obama’s win.

    Alaska and Georgia have quite a bit in common.

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    not that sarahNo Gravatar says:

    PS My last post was not in response to anyone in particular– I had just finished reading all of the page 1 comments, which I somehow missed when I first posted.

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    BeaNo Gravatar says:

    Isn’t Saxby Chambliss being decent and making sense one of the signs of the Apocalypse??

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    JeanetteNo Gravatar says:

    My mom still lives in Georgia. Take whatever a Saxby Chambliss (old southern family) says with a BIG grain of salt. What can be gleaned from Chambliss comment is this: Republicans fear health care reform. Saxby Chambliss cares about reelection, and he has rightly ascertained that the pendulum has swung in favor of health care reform. He too will swing in favor of health care reform. That is fine. At least he listens to his constituency.

    We cry in the Wilderness for leadership. We are the leadership. We will be the voice of change. Let them come to us for their answers. Ignore the polls. They don’t reflect the truth. Stick with your gut feeling. Chambliss is sticking with his, and his gut says that health care reform will break him if if bucks popular opinion.

  60. 60
    jojobo1No Gravatar says:

    nsfnCA I read thru and this is a republican congressma who in no way supports either a public option nor anything any democrate has put forth.If it wasn’t for that I would sign because our taxes pay for their health care and like Senator Kennedy said if it is good enough for them it should be good enough for the rest of us and I don’t see that in his site.

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    jojobo1No Gravatar says:

    Tlgeiger62 I got the same exact message from my republican congress person.Apparently I live in a more red than blue, not state cause we went blue but area.Chambliss reminds me of McCain trying to put the genie back in the bottle when it is to late.The damage is done.McCain is doing the same thing now saying cool down but that he does not agree we need the kind of change asked for and I had to laugh when someone asked him how much the insurance industry gave him for his campaigns and he feigned innocence.tewise I used Part of your post to show someone a differant prespective on the insurance industry because thought they may thnk we need some kind of reform they do not see the need for a public option.

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    strangeletNo Gravatar says:

    Unfortunately, Saxby is still a shi(r)t. Making a little bit of nice and disputing a QuitterLie isn’t going to make me forget the despicable lying campaign he ran against Max Cleland.

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    strangeletNo Gravatar says:

    @51 Bystander: I’m sorry to have to correct you, but that was a CA congressshmuck, not WA.

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    strangeletNo Gravatar says:

    @52 weaver57: Thank you for “McChinless”. I think I will probably still use “Kermit” most of the time, but it’s nice to have some variety at hand.

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    SouthernMissNo Gravatar says:

    #62 Strangelet
    Thank you for “shi(r)t”. Clever way to get that in. I believe I’ll borrow that from you.

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    nswfm CANo Gravatar says:

    60 jojobo1 Says: August 27th, 2009 at 4:27 PM

    nsfnCA I read thru and this is a republican….I would sign because our taxes pay for their health care and like Senator Kennedy said if it is good enough for them it should be good enough for the rest of us and I don’t see that in his site.
    ———
    The guy that sent it to me is an R and second home neighbor. I was just shocked that the people were all in the TO section and not the BCC section of the email, not just on his to us, but all the people before us who were forwarding. Just bad, because now I have the contacts for his different board of directors, NASA contacts, etc., in addition to the committee members that I know from our neighborhood. Also, in the 2004 election, stuff about fund raising and the company he works for were on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. I’ll leave it at that.

    I agree that “because our taxes pay for their health care and like Senator Kennedy said if it is good enough for them it should be good enough for the rest of us” and think that would be an approach to writing our elected representatives, using the HamletsMill compilation of contacts, etc.

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    KaJoNo Gravatar says:

    Rachel Maddow just ran a clip of an old b/w video of Ted Kennedy delivering a speech at the 1968 Alaska state Democratic Convention, only days after the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King.

    One can only imagine how Alaska state politics would have panned out if Ted Kennedy had decided to settle down there instead of fulfilling his family destiny in Massachusetts… :)

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    SouthernMissNo Gravatar says:

    #35nswfmCA
    What a great idea. i’m headed over to sign Congressman Fleming’s petition right now.

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    trish in SW FLNo Gravatar says:

    LOL, I’ll skip the sweet tea and just grab a shot of Jack Daniels instead!

    ;)

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    Aussie Blue SkyNo Gravatar says:

    libby Says:
    August 27th, 2009 at 11:34 AM
    Careful, folks…Chambliss is a rat. He will always be a rat. I wouldn’t believe anything that came out of his mouth.

    I’ll celebrate the fact that he publicly denied Palin’s claims but I won’t give that a whole lot of weight.

    I agree, Winski, he is a dangerous man.
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    My first thought was it’s about to be exposed that he has cost $300,000 in complications following a dose of the clap.

    I can’t think of any other reason he would want to spread “reasonableness” and be offering kudos to the President.

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    strangeletNo Gravatar says:

    Aussie, you have a nasty mind. I like that.

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    aussiegal77No Gravatar says:

    well….color me suprised…..A Repub being…..honest? And decent? Are the 4 Horsemen on their way as we speak?

    I like what I see but I will hold my applause if Chambliss makes it thru tomorrow and the weekend without a retraction or back pedal of his comments or an apology to Rush for defying party lines.

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    aussiegal77No Gravatar says:

    Sorry….correction…..I will hold my applause UNTIL he can make it thru the weekend without a retraction =D

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    sauerkrautNo Gravatar says:

    I have no respect for Chambliss. He tried to hitch his wagon to her glutes and for that he needs to do some serious penance.

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    E in New EnglandNo Gravatar says:

    I would like to be more optimistic, but I just can’t.

    First off, “we just didn’t get around” to fixing healthcare? Umm, yeah, methinks not. That makes it sound like we’ve just been busy with other stuff, like when you’ve been meaning to call your mom back, and you just haven’t found a spare minute.

    Second, he disagrees with Palin on death panels. There’s nothing to disagree with! It’s not like Palin said “hey, that sounds like a death panel!” and someone else said “no, no, it’s a [whatever].” THERE ARE NO DEATH PANELS. They do not exist! You can’t agree or disagree with something that doesn’t exist! *smacks head on table*

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    KaJo–ooo, Rachel had that video? It can be found, directly from the source, here: http://vilda.alaska.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/cdmg21&CISOPTR=10053&REC=2

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    Lacy LadyNo Gravatar says:

    Now that we have Beck on the run, we need to work on getting rid of Hannity.
    As far as beck still on the booze–I think he is also in Rush Limbaugh’s medicine cabinet. I swear that man needs to be put in a “home”.

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    InJuneauNo Gravatar says:

    Ooooo, we saw the Kennedy clip on Rachel; very cool! (PM me on the Forum if you want to know why I think it’s so cool!)

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    libbyNo Gravatar says:

    Didn’t mean to take the wind out of anyone’s sails with my previous comment about Saxby. False hope is never a good thing, IMO.

    You can bet that his recent statement benefits him in some way…and ONLY him.

    I have to agree with E in New England…”You can’t agree or disagree with something that doesn’t exist!”

    The hope I’m hanging onto is in watching folks like Beck et al being backed into their dark little corners.

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    GasmanNo Gravatar says:

    Agreed, Chambliss is a lying weasel and should not be trusted. However, at some point on some issue, the Republicans will not be able to keep all of their soldiers in line. There will be a/an issue(s) which will force elected Republicans to look to their own electoral realities even if it means breaking rank. Self interest will dictate that Republicans will support popular issues if they feel not doing so will jeopardize their positions.

    Could healthcare reform be the issue? If President Obama and the Dems play this right it sure could. How many other issues in front of them enjoy 75+% popularity? If Specter can switch parties, it is probable that some Republicans will not toe the party line if the issue is big enough.