Comments on: Pop, Ooze, Dung, and the Alaska Personnel Board. http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/ Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:08:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Aussie Blue Sky http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127965 Aussie Blue Sky Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:13:18 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127965 curiouser Says: September 1st, 2009 at 1:49 PM From an ADN editorial that’s worth revisiting: “Petumenos’ report is so obviously tilted in favor of Gov. Palin that it fails to put the Troopergate matter to rest. The Legislature would do Alaskans a service by holding a forum where both investigators argue against each other, so Alaskans can make up their own minds.” There's no issue: Petumenos determined that the CEO wasn't responsible for the skulduggery of her personal staff and her family <i>on her behalf</i> (a conclusion which enabled him to overlook her ridiculous perjury in denying any knowledge of it). Imagine being a CEO - even one without a job description: would you be expected to take responsibility for what your staff and your family do? Branchflower said that what goes on in the CEO's suite is of course the CEO's responsibility (wow! just like in real life). curiouser Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 1:49 PM
From an ADN editorial that’s worth revisiting: “Petumenos’ report is so obviously tilted in favor of Gov. Palin that it fails to put the Troopergate matter to rest. The Legislature would do Alaskans a service by holding a forum where both investigators argue against each other, so Alaskans can make up their own minds.”

There’s no issue:

Petumenos determined that the CEO wasn’t responsible for the skulduggery of her personal staff and her family on her behalf (a conclusion which enabled him to overlook her ridiculous perjury in denying any knowledge of it). Imagine being a CEO – even one without a job description: would you be expected to take responsibility for what your staff and your family do?

Branchflower said that what goes on in the CEO’s suite is of course the CEO’s responsibility (wow! just like in real life).

]]> By: Writing from Alaska http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127964 Writing from Alaska Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:33:42 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127964 Oh, yes, I forgot the title of this post referred to 'ooze' and 'dung'- maybe instead of 'juicy' I need another analagous, metaphorical or descriptive reference - uh, tantalizing... not that's not it - - ok, well, I'lll get back to you on that. Oh, yes, I forgot the title of this post referred to ‘ooze’ and ‘dung’- maybe instead of ‘juicy’ I need another analagous, metaphorical or descriptive reference – uh, tantalizing… not that’s not it – – ok, well, I’lll get back to you on that.

]]> By: Writing from Alaska http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127963 Writing from Alaska Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:28:21 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127963 Interesting, thought provoking and juicy tidbits - thank you! Interesting, thought provoking and juicy tidbits – thank you!

]]> By: BS http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127926 BS Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:39:46 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127926 Martha - I have to believe things will change. The first thing that has to happen is we have to have a liberal (Yes, I said it!) win the next gubernatorial race. Then things will fall into place - just like the presidential election did. I think it will take some (hopefully not much) time, but it WILL happen. After all, Alaska started out as a liberal state and I think we will go back to our roots (before the time the religious right took over). At least that's what I tell myself in order to sleep at night! Martha – I have to believe things will change. The first thing that has to happen is we have to have a liberal (Yes, I said it!) win the next gubernatorial race. Then things will fall into place – just like the presidential election did. I think it will take some (hopefully not much) time, but it WILL happen. After all, Alaska started out as a liberal state and I think we will go back to our roots (before the time the religious right took over). At least that’s what I tell myself in order to sleep at night!

]]> By: sauerkraut http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127924 sauerkraut Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:34:18 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127924 You've been invited to speak in executive session? Not by subpoena, I hope. Bring a lawyer just in case. You’ve been invited to speak in executive session? Not by subpoena, I hope.

Bring a lawyer just in case.

]]> By: sauerkraut http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127923 sauerkraut Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:32:50 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127923 Yon Dung is a member of the minority party now, non? Perhaps it's a great time to fling the dung and elect Mr. Crawford. You certainly cannot do any worse than what you currently have. Yon Dung is a member of the minority party now, non?

Perhaps it’s a great time to fling the dung and elect Mr. Crawford. You certainly cannot do any worse than what you currently have.

]]> By: Claw Washout Palin http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127921 Claw Washout Palin Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:19:47 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127921 The only thing I can see to do about the, Personnel Board; would be to call each one of them out. Plaster their names and faces in the papers, websites, blogs and media. Make them explain themselves and hold them accountable for the decisions that they have mad regarding, Palin, in particular. Put pressure on them and sooner or later someone will break and spill their guts. Then follow the paper trail. There are going to be alot of people defending themselves!! The only thing I can see to do about the, Personnel Board; would be to call each one of them out. Plaster their names and faces in the papers, websites, blogs and media. Make them explain themselves and hold them accountable for the decisions that they have mad regarding, Palin, in particular. Put pressure on them and sooner or later someone will break and spill their guts. Then follow the paper trail. There are going to be alot of people defending themselves!!

]]> By: Lori in Los Angeles http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127910 Lori in Los Angeles Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:43:36 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127910 I agree with what Martha said at #14. "Serious teeth" or not, the ethics complaints are likely to be dismissed. Too much history from this Personnel Board for me to think or hope otherwise. There should have been an impeachment process after Palin was found guilty of abuse of power (a very serious offense) - and there was nothing, nada, zip - not even a censure. Why did they even bother with the investigation? I agree with what Martha said at #14. “Serious teeth” or not, the ethics complaints are likely to be dismissed. Too much history from this Personnel Board for me to think or hope otherwise. There should have been an impeachment process after Palin was found guilty of abuse of power (a very serious offense) – and there was nothing, nada, zip – not even a censure.
Why did they even bother with the investigation?

]]> By: Martha http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127841 Martha Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:18:08 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127841 12 curiouser .....the Alaskan people certainly deserve better from both the legislature and the personnel board. Having said that, the cost and time of having a forum is futile, I think. The legislature are the lawmakers of the state and if there are glaring discrepenceys in the "Petumenos" report they should investigate it. But only IF they intend on taking action on their findings. They should have done that immediately after in was completed. In fact they should be investigating most of the ethics complaints that this personnel board has processed. As we all know in our hearts, there was pressure put to bear on this board, no differently than the Troopergate case. The very SAME abuse of power the legislature found Palin guilty of in the first place! The very SAME abuse of power that the legislature gave Palin the green light to continue with. The legislature should be investigated for taking no action when they found Palin guilty of abuse of power. As I said before....in what state of the union....has it's legislature found their Governor..............guilty of abuse of the power of the office of Governor.......and done .................nothing................no impeachment............not a single sanction! What does a Governor have to do in Alaska to be impeached? If Palin HAD committed murder at high noon, in front of the State Capitol buildings..................they still would have done nothing, because the police would have done it for them. The only time anything is done about corruption is when the federal government steps in. This legislature has corrupt members of it's own and needs a thorough house cleaning. 12 curiouser …..the Alaskan people certainly deserve better from both the legislature and the personnel board.

Having said that, the cost and time of having a forum is futile, I think.

The legislature are the lawmakers of the state and if there are glaring discrepenceys in the “Petumenos” report they should investigate it.

But only IF they intend on taking action on their findings.

They should have done that immediately after in was completed.

In fact they should be investigating most of the ethics complaints that this personnel board has processed.

As we all know in our hearts, there was pressure put to bear on this board, no differently than the Troopergate case.

The very SAME abuse of power the legislature found Palin guilty of in the first place!

The very SAME abuse of power that the legislature gave Palin the green light to continue with.

The legislature should be investigated for taking no action when they found Palin guilty of abuse of power.

As I said before….in what state of the union….has it’s legislature found their Governor…………..guilty of abuse of the power of the office of Governor…….and done ……………..nothing…………….no impeachment…………not a single sanction!

What does a Governor have to do in Alaska to be impeached?

If Palin HAD committed murder at high noon, in front of the State Capitol buildings………………they still would have done nothing, because the police would have done it for them.

The only time anything is done about corruption is when the federal government steps in.

This legislature has corrupt members of it’s own and needs a thorough house cleaning.

]]> By: 0whole1 http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/01/pop-ooze-dung-and-the-alaska-personnel-board/#comment-127819 0whole1 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:46:20 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6408#comment-127819 > Go get ‘im, Harry! "Give 'em hell, Harry"? > Go get ‘im, Harry!

“Give ‘em hell, Harry”?

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