Comments on: Foiled eBay Bidder Challenges Palin to $100,000 Dinner for Veterans’ Charities http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/ Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:42:32 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: AKMuckraker: Morris Ups the Ante – Challenges Palin to Charity Dinner with Progressives for $200,000 | Obama Biden White House http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134908 AKMuckraker: Morris Ups the Ante – Challenges Palin to Charity Dinner with Progressives for $200,000 | Obama Biden White House Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:31:47 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134908 [...] of never say die,” I proposed a more substantial offer for an on the record discussion. I will donate $100,000 to veterans’ charities for a second dinner with Sarah Palin and four guests, this one on-the-record and taped so as to [...] [...] of never say die,” I proposed a more substantial offer for an on the record discussion. I will donate $100,000 to veterans’ charities for a second dinner with Sarah Palin and four guests, this one on-the-record and taped so as to [...]

]]> By: AKMuckraker: Morris Ups the Ante – Challenges Palin to Charity Dinner with Progressives for $200,000. | Obama Biden White House http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134876 AKMuckraker: Morris Ups the Ante – Challenges Palin to Charity Dinner with Progressives for $200,000. | Obama Biden White House Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:33:43 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134876 [...] I will donate $100,000 to veterans’ charities for a second dinner with Sarah Palin and four guests, this one on-the-record and taped so as to minimize misrepresentations. In the name of fair play, my list of invitees will include a subset of Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Thom Hartmann, Oprah Winfrey, James Carville, Randi Rhodes, Arianna Huffington, Frank Rich, Mudflats’ Jeanne Devon, Jane Hamsher and Shannyn Moore. On her side, Sarah Palin may invite guests as well (how about Bill Kristol and Glenn Beck?). The only additional conditions are that the dinner/event last the entire four hours and questions asked are answered and discussed civilly. No filibustering, no third party prompts, just face-to-face honesty. Hostility by any invitee will be cause for removal. No discussion of children, Vogue, Katie Couric, The Enquirer, or Levi Johnston permitted. My reasons for such an offer are honorable and important. With the Supreme Court positioned to overturn campaign finance laws in the Citizens United vs. Federal Elections Commission case now before it, corporate contributions to federal elections will be unfettered. In other words, Sarah Palin with the help of an unlimited dose of corporate funds might one day be president. Already she has what appears to be a heady stable of influential supporters: Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, Bill Kristol, Lawrence Kudlow, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. In other words, I take her prospects seriously. And, as she has chosen to be a spokesperson for, as she says, ” American Main Street ,” it is vital that she come out from behind her handlers and speak on the record in unscripted fashion. We deserve to be enlightened by honest insights not merely prepared comments and pre-screened questions. [...] [...] I will donate $100,000 to veterans’ charities for a second dinner with Sarah Palin and four guests, this one on-the-record and taped so as to minimize misrepresentations. In the name of fair play, my list of invitees will include a subset of Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, Thom Hartmann, Oprah Winfrey, James Carville, Randi Rhodes, Arianna Huffington, Frank Rich, Mudflats’ Jeanne Devon, Jane Hamsher and Shannyn Moore. On her side, Sarah Palin may invite guests as well (how about Bill Kristol and Glenn Beck?). The only additional conditions are that the dinner/event last the entire four hours and questions asked are answered and discussed civilly. No filibustering, no third party prompts, just face-to-face honesty. Hostility by any invitee will be cause for removal. No discussion of children, Vogue, Katie Couric, The Enquirer, or Levi Johnston permitted. My reasons for such an offer are honorable and important. With the Supreme Court positioned to overturn campaign finance laws in the Citizens United vs. Federal Elections Commission case now before it, corporate contributions to federal elections will be unfettered. In other words, Sarah Palin with the help of an unlimited dose of corporate funds might one day be president. Already she has what appears to be a heady stable of influential supporters: Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, Bill Kristol, Lawrence Kudlow, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. In other words, I take her prospects seriously. And, as she has chosen to be a spokesperson for, as she says, ” American Main Street ,” it is vital that she come out from behind her handlers and speak on the record in unscripted fashion. We deserve to be enlightened by honest insights not merely prepared comments and pre-screened questions. [...]

]]> By: Sick of news on Wasabilly's http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134537 Sick of news on Wasabilly's Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:26:17 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134537 Basically, you can put a monkey in a dress and charge 100g to dine with her, but, when all is said and done, she's STILL a monkey! Sending love to the mudflatters from So.Cal. :) Basically, you can put a monkey in a dress and charge 100g to dine with her, but, when all is said and done, she’s STILL a monkey!

Sending love to the mudflatters from So.Cal. :)

]]> By: BBHounds http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134312 BBHounds Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:28:04 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134312 @BigSlick # 79 ...so to Queen Esther its the same as visiting a petting zoo. Or a turkey farm. LMAO @BigSlick # 79

…so to Queen Esther its the same as visiting a petting zoo.

Or a turkey farm.

LMAO

]]> By: Marnie http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134289 Marnie Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:14:21 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134289 If I had 100K I would be overjoyed to have dinner with Morris and his guests. Wow. For get the four hours limit. Just Wow. If I had 100K I would be overjoyed to have dinner with Morris and his guests.
Wow. For get the four hours limit. Just Wow.

]]> By: Marnie http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134288 Marnie Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:07:16 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134288 I wonder if Sarah has figured out that by black balling people like Morris and Olbermann, both of whom were willing to bid much higher, that the bid she finally got - that by cooking the results and announcing openly - she just cost the vets group almost 50K. Yes, Sarah we are laughing at you once again. For among other reasons your lack of logic, and foresight/thoughtyness has made you look foolish. Again. But also in your desperate quest for attention you actually put youself on the 50% off table. I wonder if Sarah has figured out that by black balling people like Morris and Olbermann, both of whom were willing to bid much higher, that the bid she finally got – that by cooking the results and announcing openly – she just cost the vets group almost 50K.
Yes, Sarah we are laughing at you once again. For among other reasons your lack of logic, and foresight/thoughtyness has made you look foolish. Again.

But also in your desperate quest for attention you actually put youself on the 50% off table.

]]> By: kenaiqueen http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134283 kenaiqueen Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:47:55 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134283 I can't help but wonder why bother? Why ask Sarah as if she has any answers? I agree this country is divided and it makes me sad too. I wonder if we are headed for a war with Blue vs Red instead of Blue vs Gray like last time. Frankly, I don't think anything SP has to say on the subject would be of any worth. I can’t help but wonder why bother? Why ask Sarah as if she has any answers? I agree this country is divided and it makes me sad too. I wonder if we are headed for a war with Blue vs Red instead of Blue vs Gray like last time. Frankly, I don’t think anything SP has to say on the subject would be of any worth.

]]> By: BigSlick http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134263 BigSlick Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:47:27 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134263 78 strangelet Says: September 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 PM @BigSlick: I’m guessing QP is carefully not hearing about female infanticide (aka fourth trimester abortion). But also, too, also, this meeting is almost entirely expat financial services “blokes”, eh? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Remember, China doesn't count as part of God's Kingdom since they are all godless atheists so to Queen Esther its the same as visiting a petting zoo. Or a turkey farm. 78 strangelet Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 PM
@BigSlick: I’m guessing QP is carefully not hearing about female infanticide (aka fourth trimester abortion). But also, too, also, this meeting is almost entirely expat financial services “blokes”, eh?

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Remember, China doesn’t count as part of God’s Kingdom since they are all godless atheists so to Queen Esther its the same as visiting a petting zoo.

Or a turkey farm.

]]> By: strangelet http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134251 strangelet Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:59:00 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134251 @BigSlick: I'm guessing QP is carefully not hearing about female infanticide (aka fourth trimester abortion). But also, too, also, this meeting is almost entirely expat financial services "blokes", eh? @BigSlick: I’m guessing QP is carefully not hearing about female infanticide (aka fourth trimester abortion). But also, too, also, this meeting is almost entirely expat financial services “blokes”, eh?

]]> By: ModernDayMencken http://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/22/foiled-ebay-bidder-challenges-palin-to-100000-dinner-for-veterans-charities/#comment-134225 ModernDayMencken Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:13:41 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=6822#comment-134225 Unfortunately, Mr. Morris, this divide is here to stay. And things will probably get much worse. The conservative movement only exists to ensure that government serves the wealthy and the needs of corporations, with the needs of the vast majority of everyone else as a secondary concern. 30 years of Reagan Republicanism have got us to this point. That is 30 years of quacking about a misconstrued understanding of free markets, 30 years of rolling back regulation after regulation to the benefit of business, 30 years of labor policies that shipped jobs overseas on a moments notice without providing a meaningful opportunity for those thrown out of work except the public dole. 30 years of selling the environment and the future quality of our children's lives to the highest bidder. But, what is worse is that the modern state of "journalism" is feeding the conservative beast. The right has it's talking points which are at best based on facts manufactured in it's own echo chamber of Fox news and limited other conservative sources. What is scary is that no thinking person in the main stream media challenges them, backs them down, makes them support in detail what they say. You know, like Cronkite and Brinkley used to do. Journalism is failing the masses because it's nature is being changed from trusted news and fact, to an angry diatribe that at best is a weak form of entertainment. It is truly frightening that the opinion makers for a large swath of the populace are men in the middle of their lives with no education other than high school, whose biggest accomplishment in life prior to finding fame were careers as disc jockeys. To make matters worse, media outlets can now own more than one station in a given geography, which provided Rupert Murdoch, one of the wealthiest men in the world, to spread his conservative gospel. And he found the right marketing mix in people like Glenn Beck to make that happen. But, the foregoing is only two-thirds of the conservative strategy. The conservative movement needs boots on the ground, people who will without question vote for it's goals. And they found willing participants in the evangelical movement. Millions of people who've willfully replaced individual rational thought with a simple road map for life based singularly on a literal translation of the bible. They don't seem to question that the bible is an ancient text, that it has been translated across many different languages, and that any original meaning of the stories has changed due to the political leanings of the translator. Does not matter. And in their minds I am a heretic who will burn in hell for just now pointing that out. I don't see these people changing their political stripes. Moreover, I see many more joining their ranks out of the desperation caused by the economic hardship of these times. So, I fear our world of the future will consist of an Ayn Rand nightmare of have's and have nots, ruled by domionist leaders hell bent on bringing on the rapture. The haves will enjoy life and get wealthier off the backs of the have nots, who will willingly become cannon fodder for whatever culture the domionist leaders deem un-biblical. After all, Jesus must not love the have nots, or he'd of made em wealthy, right? The conservative media will squelch dissent. Within a generation our children's education will be so watered down and full of biblical content they will be incapable of giving protest a thought. No, the divide that exists in this country will get worse unless thinking people take on the source of conservative power- the radical evangelicals and the conservative media baron Rupert Murdoch. It is good to see our Latino neighbors organizing to push CNN into doing something drastic about Lou Dobbs. We Americans who have been here for a few generations could learn something from these newer citizens. I say Muy Bien to them for what they are doing! Reduce the influence of Murdoch, and you render Palin a comical footnote in U.S. political history. Fail to do that, and within 10 years this country will become an intolerant dominionist theocracy that will consume the weak in order to make the wealthy, wealthier. Unfortunately, Mr. Morris, this divide is here to stay. And things will probably get much worse. The conservative movement only exists to ensure that government serves the wealthy and the needs of corporations, with the needs of the vast majority of everyone else as a secondary concern. 30 years of Reagan Republicanism have got us to this point. That is 30 years of quacking about a misconstrued understanding of free markets, 30 years of rolling back regulation after regulation to the benefit of business, 30 years of labor policies that shipped jobs overseas on a moments notice without providing a meaningful opportunity for those thrown out of work except the public dole. 30 years of selling the environment and the future quality of our children’s lives to the highest bidder.

But, what is worse is that the modern state of “journalism” is feeding the conservative beast. The right has it’s talking points which are at best based on facts manufactured in it’s own echo chamber of Fox news and limited other conservative sources. What is scary is that no thinking person in the main stream media challenges them, backs them down, makes them support in detail what they say. You know, like Cronkite and Brinkley used to do. Journalism is failing the masses because it’s nature is being changed from trusted news and fact, to an angry diatribe that at best is a weak form of entertainment. It is truly frightening that the opinion makers for a large swath of the populace are men in the middle of their lives with no education other than high school, whose biggest accomplishment in life prior to finding fame were careers as disc jockeys. To make matters worse, media outlets can now own more than one station in a given geography, which provided Rupert Murdoch, one of the wealthiest men in the world, to spread his conservative gospel. And he found the right marketing mix in people like Glenn Beck to make that happen.

But, the foregoing is only two-thirds of the conservative strategy. The conservative movement needs boots on the ground, people who will without question vote for it’s goals. And they found willing participants in the evangelical movement. Millions of people who’ve willfully replaced individual rational thought with a simple road map for life based singularly on a literal translation of the bible. They don’t seem to question that the bible is an ancient text, that it has been translated across many different languages, and that any original meaning of the stories has changed due to the political leanings of the translator. Does not matter. And in their minds I am a heretic who will burn in hell for just now pointing that out. I don’t see these people changing their political stripes. Moreover, I see many more joining their ranks out of the desperation caused by the economic hardship of these times.

So, I fear our world of the future will consist of an Ayn Rand nightmare of have’s and have nots, ruled by domionist leaders hell bent on bringing on the rapture. The haves will enjoy life and get wealthier off the backs of the have nots, who will willingly become cannon fodder for whatever culture the domionist leaders deem un-biblical. After all, Jesus must not love the have nots, or he’d of made em wealthy, right? The conservative media will squelch dissent. Within a generation our children’s education will be so watered down and full of biblical content they will be incapable of giving protest a thought.

No, the divide that exists in this country will get worse unless thinking people take on the source of conservative power- the radical evangelicals and the conservative media baron Rupert Murdoch. It is good to see our Latino neighbors organizing to push CNN into doing something drastic about Lou Dobbs. We Americans who have been here for a few generations could learn something from these newer citizens. I say Muy Bien to them for what they are doing!

Reduce the influence of Murdoch, and you render Palin a comical footnote in U.S. political history. Fail to do that, and within 10 years this country will become an intolerant dominionist theocracy that will consume the weak in order to make the wealthy, wealthier.

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