Open Thread – 17 Minutes of Fame
A moment please…
Take off your hats. Let us have a moment of silent reflection for the passing of Advocate Jones.
Mr. or Ms. Jones had a short life, but like a shooting star, it was bright and it was awesome. And luckily someone was looking up while its appearance graced the night sky.
For a mere 17 minutes, Advocate Jones had a comment up on the front page of Team Sarah. It read, and I quote:
Getting Sarah Palin as the Rep. candidate would be the greatest thing ever! It would totally guarantee another win for OBAMA!
Alas, the moderators were also gazing at the night sky, and this brilliant star was snuffed out. But not before a screen capture was obtained.
Farewell, Advocate Jones; you who endured the rigors of signing up for Team Sarah and answering questions like “Why do you support Sarah Palin?” and “How many friends will you tell about this site?” And for passing the scrutiny of those who decide if you are a legitimate Team Sarah applicant. And for using your platform, for a brief but glorious act of defiance, not knowing if anyone would ever know… You may not be from Louisville, Kentucky as your member page says. Your first name may not even be “Advocate” for all we know… But you will be remembered with a smile.
Thanks for my morning laugh. RIP Advocate Jones.
Did you notice “Richard L. Cutter M. D. Ph.d” (?)
Who said the rightwingnuts don’t have smart people?
Dr. Cutter probably has even more initials after his name that we can’t see.
What a NICE way to start my work week!! Needed a pick me up ( was bummed about vacation ending and back to the grind..) Just the sort of thing I would like to do !! hehehehe!!!! Way to go , Advocate Jones !!!!
luv it
lex ky yeahh
I think Advocate Jones ought to live on in some sort of prize. Who we gonna give the Advocate Jones to? What are the criteria?
“Your first name may not even be ‘Advocate’ for all we know…” made me laugh out loud.
Whooeeee – Advocate Jones made it further than I did – my attempt to join was blocked! Let’s hope fellow mudpuppy Rachel Maddow reads this thread and brings this up on her show. AJ needs another minute or two of fame for the effort she/he put in to get onto that website.
BTW – Did anyone from that site catch on that everyone in Congress is on vacation today? Had they really been following the health care debate, they would have heard frequent mention of the holiday recess.
Haven’t had time to post lately, but as usual am enjoying my daily dose of the Flats in bits and pieces as I can. Here’s a nice Halloween distraction that a friend emailed–I haven’t carved a pumpkin in years, but may be inspired to do so this year!
http://www.pinkraygun.com/2009/10/07/free-pumpkin-carving-templates-msnbcs-rachel-maddow-and-keith-olbermann/
Enjoy!!
Thought for a minute GG2B might be Advocate but I guess not. What a brave soldier you are Advocate…..onward through the storm.
I’m amazed that TeamSarah and C4P even still exist. I mean, I suppose anyone can have a “fan club”, but I mean ‘exist’ in the sense that they and/or any of their members actually still advocate Sarah for a presidential candidate in 2012 or even possibly beyond.
Sorry to be so blunt, but that idea is pure delusion. We know she herself does not know how to run an effective national campaign.
We know what would happen with the people she hired to run the campaign – either a) she would hire her know-little, fairly incompetent ‘buddies’, or b) she’d hire the best campaign manager (her) money could buy and then not take his/her advice
We know she couldn’t possibly sit in front of and intelligently answer questions from people such as George Stephanopolous, David Gregory, and Bob Sheiffer (and yes, Katie Couric, Charles Gibson and Brian Williams). Heck, I’m doubtful she’d hold up well to Jay Leno or Conan O’Brian (she might fare a bit better with Craig Ferguson since, when Gov., she made him an Honorary Citizen).
And we KNOW she’ll never be on Letterman! And you can’t win an election by ignoring these people. Just going on Fox News is NOT enough to get you elected, no matter how great and popular your message might be.
How much money she could raise for a campaign is debatable, but how wisely she’d spend it is … equally debatable.
And we know there will be more experienced politicians, men and women, competing in the field. I’d be surprised to see her win even one state in a primary. And even if I’m wrong on that, it takes a heckuvalot more than one state to win a primary election.
Even if that impossible hurdle was by some miracle leaped, she would then have to convince a whole bunch of people who DON’T share her ideals that they should somehow still vote for her.
And that simply will not happen either.
The fork has been put in her, she is well and truly done
Actually, she stuck the fork in herself when she resigned the Governorship.
For which I am so, so happy. As Governor of Alaska, Palin/Bachmann 2012 was a horrifying possibility.
Now it is a very, very laughable joke.
Phoebe @6 – Wasn’t for trying! Actually, I tried twice and got rejected at both attempts – guess I didn’t put in a high enough number of friends that I’d invite to her site.
Leah Burton, Phil Munger, Andrew Sullivan and other *leftist bloggers* are getting slammed – read Leah’s blog:
http://godsownparty.com/blog/2009/10/palins-pals-are-trogging/
Had our first frost here last night – quite early for southwestern KY. Guess we got the goldfish out of the pond just in time!
For those who have to work on this holiday, just think – you are keeping the economy going. For those not working today, if you are so inclined, take a few minutes to send messages to the list Ann Strongheart provided, and see if we can help push for some answers to the fuel situation for the remote villages.
AKM, and Gryphan have been outed, Shannyn has been threatened, but all of you and many more “amateur” bloggers have comment sections open to anyone who keeps a civil tongue.
Sarah, who continually whines about free speech apparently has as many qualifiers as to join her sites, like Sarah Pac, as her eBay listing had.
What are you afraid off Sarah?
Saw, I think on HuffPo, Stapleton’s admission that no one wants Palin to campaign for them.
Why would she want to admit something like that to the national press?
And of course there is Gryphen’s point that Sarah Pac’s phone-in-to-your-Congressperson-day was scheduled for today, a Federal Holiday.
I love that one.
Not only is today a celebration of Europe’s discovery and claiming of the New World but it is probably a state holiday in Alaska as well. You were Governor of a state weren’t you?
Sarah has learned nothing from her run for VP, except that ugliness counts. McCain’s campaign was an organizational disaster. So is Sarah’s, and her’s won’t get nearly as far as McCain’sdid. He at least had legitimate credentials.
Of which, m……k wasn’t one.
3 lemonfair Says:
October 12th, 2009 at 2:58 AM
I think Advocate Jones ought to live on in some sort of prize. Who we gonna give the Advocate Jones to? What are the criteria?
At least it should require the guts to charge into the midsts of a crowd of Palinista, or Tea Baggers.
Right now most of the Progressives and Libruls of Alaska qualify. Just about anyone who lives in Wasilla and isn’t a Sarah supporter probably does too.
Hahaha phoebe, I thought it might be gg2b as well.
I’m tickled that Advocate Jones “lives” in Kentucky…
Note to AKM: the screenshot says Louisville, not Lexington.
That said… REAL Kentuckians have a long history of poking eyes.
Thanks. Must have been thinking of our own lexky! AKM
we should start a “advocate jones” award for anybody who can infiltrate any pro-palin site..
justa have you been going undercover?
John Weaver: Palin would be a “political apocalypse.”
http://www.newsy.com/videos/sarah_palin_first_or_last_choice_for_the_gop
Leah Burton, Andrew Sullivan, Phil Munger, and other Alaskan bloggers have been smeared by a Texas Palinista.
Check out Leah’s blog: http://godsownparty.com/blog/
Good story on Daily Beast – Beck is definitely NOT playing well with the Brits:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-11/glenn-beck-goes-global/
A brief comment from that story:
… British Tories wonder what has happened to their American relatives. It’s as if your favorite cousin had a nervous breakdown, found religion, and became an evangelist for an apocalyptic cult prophesying the imminent end of the world as we know and love it….. Beck’s brand of conservatism could scarcely be more alien to a Brit…. Like most cult leaders, he is happiest playing the role of the Great Misunderstood Prophet, whose people are forever consigned to roam the wilderness.
Daily Beast also has another story that Fox is *courting* Lou Dobbs and wants to steal him away from CNN – he’d definitely fit right in with the Beck and friends.
All of the morning news and websites are carrying the story of Limbaugh’s interest in buying the St. Louis Rams – no one else is buying it – the black players are saying no way and now a couple of national sports organizations are also rejecting the idea. I wonder how long before his judgeship with the Miss America Pageant gets withdrawn.
Kudos again to Rep. Alan Grayson – he’s become an overnight celebrity and is certainly making the rounds of all the shows!
I’m wondering when a decent Republican will speak out against that character in Florida who held a campaign rally at a shooting range and the targets were Muslims and Debby Wasserman Schultz (who that character is running against). The guy says it was a joke…….sure it was/snark.
I’m determined to find some good and inspiring stories on the web today! If I don’t find anything worth sharing, then I’ll simply log off and find a good Pollyanna-ish book to read!
Hey justa – I thought it might be YOU as it was a Kentuckian!
On yesterday’s O/T, Reesie had said she/he was giving it a try and waiting for approval….
I agree with lemonfair (VT, right?) that there needs to be an Advocate Jones award for anyone who manages to infiltrate, if only for a few minutes. It would be a real badge of honor, eh?
BB Hound, I know that it might be a stretch to comprehend, but THERE is such a thing as M.D., Ph.D. For your information, a lot of medical schools have Ph.D. to M.D. programs, what it means is that someone might have acquired their Ph.D. in one of the sciences and then they decided to go on to get an MD degree. It is actually correct since the highest degree will be first after the name. If someone would write Ph.D., M.D. is when you really should question the degree.
An Advocate Jones Award should be for chutzpah in the interwebs world.
Supporting Rachel Maddow – We need to be tuning in and writing letters of support to MSNBC. We can’t afford to lose her voice.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/143212/will_the_rachel_maddow_show_survive/
Good idea BuffaloGal – we NEED her voice to continue.
Here is the contact page for MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/
It offers the following options, so I suppose we would need to send our messages of support directly to Rachel’s page:
How do I contact NBC News or MSNBC TV?
To reach the producers, anchors and correspondents of NBC News and MSNBC TV via e-mail or to post a comment about a show, click on a link below:
TODAY
Nightly News with Brian Williams
Dateline NBC
Meet the Press
The Rachel Maddow Show
Countdown with Keith Olbermann
Hardblogger, the blog of Hardball
Morning Joe
The Ed Show
You can also mail a letter to:
NBC News
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, N.Y. 10112
me undercover? Moi???
bwahahahaaaa!!!!
not me…I would have used Rabbit Hash instead of Louisville as my location. (I love Rabbit Hash…they elect canines to serve as mayor:
http://www.rabbithashusa.com/
Thanks Justa – needed the laugh! Surprised the jackass didn’t get elected mayor!
I have been an undercover agent over at that site for several months now, and have even managed to get some friends and join a few groups!! It is very hard to bite my tounge most of the time and I have been accused of being a troll but have yet to be tossed off the site. I do manage ((gag)) to say a few “Go Sarahs” now and then but do offer a different opinion that they are used to quite often. By different I mean anything that does not 100% no questions asked support Sarah.
I am generally amused when I go there and often outraged by the ignorance displayed on a daily basis. I would say at least 50% of the posts are about Obama and how they hate him and all the reasons they hate him which are anything but racial (NOT). If they have to defend being racists that hard, well, me guts tell me it’s a duck.
I wish I knew how to screen capture, I could forward some doozies!
Hooray for Advocate Jones!
I also have a membership over at maeTharaS just to check into what is going on in Sarahville – mostly sour grapes at Obama’s win, and lots of outrage at everything he does.
I have noticed a lot of old pictures of Quittypants being posted. She looked pretty good when she had expensive clothes and professional hair and makeup people. I think they are trying to remind themselves of why they are pro-Sarah. Even with her newly peeled face, she isn’t looking so great anymore, and I do think it was a shock when she quit.
Check out this picture of $P’s ugly mug. LOL
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_aSfkyjpToyE/StCuXFhVdrI/AAAAAAAAAHc/1QlE2EQqf4Q/s1600-h/to+Cizilla.JPG
Fun though it is..in infiltrating..(and on ..rare occasions..I have ‘watched from close-in’..when I found ..slowness afoot)..never spend too much time..as it may reduce the time watching/capturing..an informational tidbit..to help show the actual way..through the underbrush..of bitterness from narrow focus. Trading spitballs around the room..will never ‘up grade’..those in the room. Look outside..and train to be sharper..then the average. Creativity..and further education..is ..gonna be..All..in..the long haul.
K8KZ – If you are using Firefox, you can get a screen capture plug-in easily from their on-line page. I personally have FireShot on one of my computers and it is very easy to use.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=screen+capture&cat=all
I posted on Pailin’s facebook page once about Palin’s puppets being in an excellent mood over her latest post, and was promptly removed, but not defriended. I’m thinking about getting help with that.
K8KZ (18)
My favorite way to “capture” a screen is by using a freeware version of CutePDF. I highlight the entire page, and “print” the highlighted part to Cutepdf. Viola! The entire page in PDF form. (I highlight because it sometimes only does one page, otherwise).
Very handy little program, that CutePDF.
Besides, I’d love to see some of the comments, but really don’t want to add to their traffic.
Nan
p.s.
I think an “Advocate Jones Award” sounds terrific!
Since this is an open thread. Have you read this article? It’s very cute, Japan is selling millions of copies of President Obama’s speeches to teach English.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/global/12iht-speech.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
(Can you imagine, trying to learn English from what’s her name’s speeches?)
Polly, it wouldn’t be English that they would learn, it would be hate, and a little nonsense thrown in..
What a great string of notes today! I believe I clicked on almost every link and found something funny, educational, or thought-provoking to start my day.
An Advocate Jones Award sounds great!
I really enjoyed the article about the Japanese studying President Obama’s speeches to learn or perfect their English speaking skills. I felt a deep kinship with this statement: …”But when she hears Mr. Obama talk, she feels perfectly at ease.
“I feel as though I am not Japanese,” she says, because she is able to understand the English speech so well.”
I remember my first trip to Japan and sitting on the train to Tokyo, just listening to all the conversation around me. I suddenly felt totally at home and felt as if I understood what was being said – but with absolutley no clue to the English translation. I’m sure I must have been Japanese in a previous life
My Japanese stepmother says I have “a Japanese sensability” and I take that as a compliment.
Yeah, we definitely need an Advocate Jones Medal of Blog Bravery, especially for even getting registered without gnawing the edge of one’s desk to splinters. And the Costco-sized quantity of Maalox cocktails required must be awesome.
I’ll bet some of our artists can rise to this occasion and design a suitable web medal and award certificate – can we have a contest and gallery? Please?
We definitely need an Advocate Jones Hall of Fame, given we have a number of brave souls who have breached Palin website walls.
Just make sure anyone posting on those sites use different names that what are used on here…… some of her followers are undoubtedly following this site and may make the connection if they see the same names and decided to bar those.
Maybe someone should put up a Palin Wall of Shame with all those funny photos of her, like the one C.Rock found.
Well, my membership is pending at team sarah. Bets are on I don’t get approved.
Polly @25 – What a terrific story! To think that the Japanese are so impressed by our President’s speaking ability, yet the fringers in the U.S. think he’s too arrogant and an elitist – simply because he DOES speak well.
On a side note to this – English as a second language is very prevalent in most developed countries now. When I was young, at least one year of a foreign language was required for a high school diploma, but that doesn’t seem to be the norm anymore.
Through our years as an Army family, I know that all DODDS (Dept. of Defense Dependent Schools) had “host nation language” as one of their regular classes for all grades. Along with learning the basics of the language, they also learned cultural aspects, currency exchange, and so forth. It was an excellent program for the kids and taught them respect for others.
And as to the mindset of the palindroids, this latest interview by Glenn Greenwald was an interesting read [and note how Glenn gets it all backwards in the last paragraph...heh!]
http://feeds.salon.com/salon/greenwald
The Greenwald interview was with Jonathan Weiler, one of the authors of the book Authoritarianism and Polarization in American Politics
http://snipurl.com/sh2oi [www_amazon_com]
Anybody here read this yet?
Yes, I loved that article about President Obama’s speeches being used for learning English in Japan, his nice pace, his enunciation, and his sincerity.
Do you remember during the campaign, how the city of Obama, Japan “adopted” him too?
Here’s part of an article from the campaign days: “The fishing village of Obama, Japan has it bad for Barack. The local ‘Obama Girls’ specialize in hula dancing to honor his birthplace. The town sells Obama chopsticks and Obama red bean cakes and ‘Obamaburgers’ made of fish. The streets are lined with Obama banners. Villagers gather to watch Obama campaign coverage on TV. ”
And Japan was so happy he won the Nobel Peace Prize.
http://www.examiner.com/x-16352-Japan-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m10d10-Japan-reacts-to-Obamas-Nobel-Peace-Prize
I’ve also heard ‘rumblings’ of a shake-up @ sea~of~pee….
Perhaps they’ve finally uncovered the ‘real’ truth about desperately-shrieking sayrah?
Golly Polly! I had read before about Obama Japan adopting him, but I wasn’t aware of the other!
How do we get more people to be vocal in a positive way of showing support for our President? I read somewhere that AM talk radio is about 90%, versus the lefty/liberal/progressive shows only comprise about 10%. I wonder if there is any town in the U.S. that does anything like the one in Japan.
Then we look at the major networks and it doesn’t look too good for us either. One can never tell with CNN which side of the fence they are on from one day to the next. It seems to depend on the commentator/interviewer and who the guest might be. There is nothing fair and balanced about them at all.
We won’t even mention F.. – we know where they stand. I’m just glad the White House is finally standing up and speaking up against them.
MSNBC seems to be a mix. I don’t mind that a specific shows a definite slant. What I object to is when they are wishy-washy depending on who it is and when they outright lie and distort, and don’t call people on things that are obvious lies.
You have to be a member of team
quitersarah to even read her postings in full, so ya know they gotta be mavericky.I’ll post my rejection notification when I get it.
Another insurance horror:
http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13530098
The baby is a 4 month old, happy and healthy breast-fed baby.
At birth, Alex weighed a normal 8 1/4 pounds. On a diet of strictly breast milk, his weight has more than doubled. He weighs about 17 pounds and is about 25 inches long.
The insurance company has decided he is overweight, so they won’t insure him!
Good interview with Hillary Clinton – she took her defeat with dignity and has moved on and found a place for herself to be comfortable with. Palin could take some lessons from her.
Asked about speculation that, intentionally or otherwise, she now projects too low a profile in heading up the U.S. diplomatic establishment, Clinton called that charge “absurd” and said it is “so at variance with what I do every day.”
“Maybe there is some misunderstanding which needs to be clarified,” she said. “I believe in delegating power … I am not one of those people who feel I have to have my face in front of the newspaper and TV every day … It’s just the way I am.”
“My goal is to be a very positive force to implement the kind of changes that the president and I believe are in the best interest of country, but that doesn’t mean it has to be me, me, me all the time. I like lifting people up.”
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/12/hillary-clinton-nobel-for_n_317183.html
The king has no clothes!
White House pushing back on Rupert Murdoch’s propaganda.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/white-houses-anita-dunn-says-fox-news-w
Just saw this on twitter:
by David Corn – Is Sarah Palin Really Serious about Politics. (And if she is, she needs some better advisers.) http://bit.ly/4itUID
He makes mention of being disappointed by the lack of politically incorrect tweets that were promised by Palin.
And, re: Team Sarah – this post reminded me that I have an acct over there! Signed up, got approved and then never used it because it was always sooo slow. Would instead check in at the sea of P to get a feel for what was going on. But lately, it’s a total ghost town over there. The major players are gone and the comments have dwindled to trickle. Maybe they went all stealth and built a cyber underground bunker secret site with a new handshake and uber secret code word to get in. ( it’s really weird to see open threads with only a handful of comments and , not uncommonly, zero)
Team Sarah has planned a anti-health care reform “phone blitz” to call senators etc. this afternoon. I guess they forgot it’s a federal holiday. Snicker snicker.
Could the Sea of Pee be a victim of global warming?
BuffaloGal, maybe you could go place a “Knock Knock” on the board and see if anyone is home!…
Good morning mudpuppers, sounds like Palin is indeed becoming the Rogue to Nowhere.
Happy Dances for everybody! OwwwwOwwwwwOwwwwwwwwuuuuuuuuuu!
also, too.
BuffaloGal – You surely have a way with words that brings happy chuckles to all of us! Seeing as you’ve been a member at TeamSarah for awhile, you get to be #1 on the Wall of Fame.
Lots of talk about Sarah NOT tweeting – suppose she is using an alias? Just doesn’t seem possible that she can’t communicate with her fans at all – her ego couldn’t handle it. She might even be posting on some of her sites under an alias. I imagine that would be the only way her handlers would allow.
I say she was ordered not to tweet until after the book comes out and has sold what it can.
then, Murdock will let her out of her cage and be done with her.
Then we will see those non-PC tweets flying!
Re: Team Sarah phone-a-thon to Senators. Not only, as pointed out above, is this a national holiday, but even if staff were there to answer the phones, by limiting the time from 2-3 Eastern time was unthinking as well. If, as Team Sarah say, she has numbers of admirers in the thousands, if they all called in that one hour span, the systems couldn’t handle it. As it is, the answering machines can’t either.
Just can’t get my head into politics this morning. So here are some things I found while meandering thru the web. All of these things made me think, gee, I love this country. You gotta love a country that boasts the largest tire turtle, a hotel with teepees for rooms, and where a cartoon character is going to appear on the cover of the number 1 girlie magazine.
Marge Simpson is going to appear on the cover of Playboy. Guess if Levi can do Playgirl, Marge can do Playboy.
For all you camera buffs, check out the not ready for prime time yet, but newest innovation in photography – the Franken camera. Story at NPR along with photos taken with the Franken camera.
And ND is home to the largest roadside sculptures in America. Check out the Enchanted Highway near Regent,ND. These are amazing. Has anyone seen these sculptures?
http://www.enchantedhighway.net/
Check realnd.net for other giant roadside on display in ND. I also took a virtual ride down Route 66, found out there are mystery holes in lots of states across America.
Marnie–actually, as a state we don’t really celebrate Columbus Day, as we celebrate Alaska Day a week later. That’s the day that celebrates the transfer of the Territory to the US. (It’s on 18 Oct.). Most state and local offices (and schools too I think) take off Alaska Day, rather than Columbus Day. The Feds are off today though.
I visit the meatshara site every day or two.It took two tries to be approved,lets just say don,t answer that you have an open mind and want to learn more bout Sarah when asked if you love her!! Second try I learned my lesson.Its a depressing site,full of mean spiritness and hate.Racism is at its core.You know,the kind where its authors shout I have a friend who is black/asian/gat/whatever,so I cant be prejudiced.Funny they dont get that it actually proves the point when they say that.It has turned into an Anti-Obama site,not a Pro-Palin one.
Sea for Pee has become the most God awful site on the net,full of difficult to read articles with dozens of links as though someone spends their day just clicking around the web looking for anti-Obama articles to “prove” they have the right candidate.Its another depressing,hatefilled waste of space on the web.
Setting aside the fact that I think Quittypants is ridiculous,visiting those two sites never results in an good cheer,love for fellow man,or uplifting of the soul.I always leave feeling upset,my blood pressure goes up,I feel anxious and sometimes angry.The feeling of community that I get here at this site never happens at those sites. They are never making an effort to help anyone other than their millionaire idol,Quittypants.They are never to be found in the act of encouraging any individuals or groups other than their mentor.A lot of hate filled people gather together and re-enforce their hate.I like to believe that here we usually have a laugh,complain about some things,discuss ways to improve things,help each other,and help fellow men in need of it.Then we do what we can,in a positive way,to make a difference.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{alaska sisu}}}}}}}}}}}}} you got mail…..also you got kisses to go with the hugs….bubs
Open thread……
My sister, at a family gathering two days ago, asked me…SO, did you HEAR about this pimp named O’Keefe who went into ACORN offices and got advice on how to….blah blah blah…..(.another person there asks what’s ACORN)….she says It’s that organization that Obama’s involved with that had voter fraud going on…blah blah blah……and I said “I do not wish to speak about this”…..”Well, you KNOW people were FIRED, right?”……”Yes, I know the story, and I don’t wish to speak about it, but as always, there are two sides to every story, and I have a different opinion on what happened, and you have your opinion and I have mine and I’m not going to discuss it any further”…….she says “Don’t you AGREE they should have been fired”? …..(sigh). “Yes, the ones who actually gave advice should be fired, but again, that is not the whole story and I am not going to discuss it further”…..thankfully, the conversation ended as we were called to go to dinner.
And I am left with knowing that my own sister is obviously getting her news from you-know-where. And I’m not the one who brought it up, although she knows I voted for Obama, and she probably voted for McCain because she is a one-issue anti-choice (“pro-life”) voter.
I know I can never discuss anything political or religious with her, but otherwise she is a great sister.
But I have to say, I am almost afraid to ask what she thinks of Sarah Palin. I’m afraid to find out that she might admire her, and I would think so so so much less of my sister if that were true.
What I WANTED to say to her, after she brought up ACORN, was, Did You Know that Speculation Abounds about Whether or Not Sarah Palin actually Had a Baby in 2008? But I wouldn’t bring up something that rogue all in a vacuum like she did with her Acorn reference.
I SO want Ms. Palin and all the other corrupt family values politicians….and pretend pimps who go out of their way to “catch” a few members of a community organization dedicated to helping the poor not following the rules… and the pretend news organizations that so obviously spout opinion and do NOT give both sides of the story….. to be caught and outed so that people like my sister can finally SEE that these people have them duped.
I’m also quite afraid to ask my sister where she thinks Barack Obama was born.
I was going through some magazines sent over by my brother. Noticed the Time cover w/ Palin on it had the same picture (almost) as Keatlys pictures. Same dock, same background. Is there no where else in all of Alaska to take pictures but on that stupid little dock? Were they there at the same time? What’s up with the dock -no pun intended???????????????
Pearl89 – We spent a long weekend in the teepees in KY with our grandsons YEARS ago! Unique and the boys had a blast! And we saw the Tin Family also, too! One of my favorites is the Corn Palace. Another is a house made completely of rolled newspapers (and furnishings too) in Marblehead MA.
We do have some wondrous sites to see – thanks for reminding us that we really have much to be proud of and thankful for!
Open Thread topic:
One of my favorite Alaska blogs that is fairly non-political and more personal, and also a great photographer by trade, is Bill Hess of Wassilla. His latest post includes some awesome pictures of genuine photos of Russia from a living room in Alaska, true story:
http://wasillaalaskaby300.squarespace.com/journal/2009/10/12/russia-as-seen-from-alaska-ten-views-including-one-through-a.html
Remember Franklin Graham of Samaritan’s Purse, who accompanied Sarah and her plate of cookies to the wrong village last winter?
Well, he has been drawing two salaries from two non-profits totalling 1.2 million plus retirement benefits, etc.
McClatchy newspapers found out that one of the non-profits laid off 55 employees in February, but kept paying him his $669,000 salary from it ( the Billy Graham Evengelistic Association).
See the story here:
http://www.kentucky.com/505/story/972054.html
Think of how much fuel and food those two salaries could buy or the projects they could fund to employee people in the bush.
BuffaloGal – Went over and read David Corn’s article. Woo-Hoo!
Someone named AKFirst has posted the link and list to the PalinGates! Will go back in a bit and see what sorts of fireworks are happening.
Mommom – Like you, the sense of family and civility to one another on this site is what drew (and kept) me. Most of Palin’s are just as you say and so much like Palin – low education, hate-filled, self-centered…….. we could go on and on with denigrating terms. Suffice it to say, one wonders if those people can ever truly be happy and find something good in others.
Oh dear Molly – I think we all are stuck with relatives we love very much, and even more so because they are so blind and narrow-minded. We feel sorry for them, but their minds are made up and they just won’t believe anything else. You did the only thing you could to keep peace in the family. I think I bit holes in my tongue almost daily during the campaign season.
GG2B – I’ve yet to do any real ground breaking over at Scream Sarah. In time I will try to earn a place on the Advocate Jones wall of fame. Over at the sea, I really did try to open up discussions but was given the full out treatment by RAM , herself. And honestly – I was absolutely open minded and diplomatic. Sometimes they remind me a whole pit of Gollums, all clamoring for their “precious” and crawling all over each other, searching by way of their limited sight. ( i think i just creeped myself out)
Alaskan Sisu – “sea of pee suffering from global warming” . ha!!
I have a question.
Palin’s infamous spokesperson, Meg, has referred to Ms. Palin two times in as many weeks as “the governor” when speaking about SP.
Here is the question? Even if Palin can use the title, “Governor” Palin, is it correct for to her to refer to Palin as “The governor”. For example, Bush can be called President Bush, but if one says “The President will be at the meeting”….doesn’t that refer to the current President…the one in office?
So, wouldn’t it be correct to say, President Bush will be attending? Not, The President will be attending. “The President” would refer to President Obama.
If Meg wants to use the title of governor when referring to Palin, shouldn’t she be saying, Gov. Palin will be at the meeting….NOT, “The Governor” will be at the meeting?
For someone who doesn’t need titles, Sarah sure like to throw around the title a lot. Maybe I’m wrong, and maybe it’s a small thing, but it just seems that Meg thinks Palin is still “the governor”.
I read it as 17 minutes of FLAME…. which was about right, before it was snuffed out, cruelly….
“Free speech for me, but not for thee!”
I read this on another site. Very funny
They are both trailer trash drama queens.
Sarah Palin/Tonya Harding 2012
I once tried joining one of those Queen Sourpuss sights but they rejected me.
I guess telling them my name was Joan Obama was a red flag. And what sight asks for phone numbers, why not ask for my S S # as well. Maybe this week we will see the fall of SP.
Peace to my fellow Puppies. Thank you for keeping me SANE.
With what has already been posted on some other Sites, the general consensus is that Man Sour did leave the site… for whatever reason. And the type of writing she does seem to match up with some of those FaceBook Notes of $arah. There is that possibility of a New Job because the ‘ style ‘ is similar.
Man Sour seemed like someone on the ” Cheerleading Squad ” of which there were a few there. Without the Cheer Squad ( Pep Squad ) constantly out there cheering them on… the enthusiasm is low. $arahs Team has always been about those simple one-word cheers that followers can grasp. ” Drill, Baby Drill ” etc. The Cheerleaders are not cheering anymore.
This ( the Cheerleaders )happens at her FaceBook all day. There are a few Regulars who repeatedly post words of encouragement along the thread when energy is low for the Team. The ‘ cheers’ usually don’t even have to make sense or contribute anything. Keep it simple…IE : ” Go, Team Go ”
Along with Cheerleaders you usually have a Team along with it that actually has to perform and DO SOMETHING. $arah quit her Team. The Cheerleading Squad continues to show up for practice every day though.
Maybe the only reason they continue to cheer is because ‘ they think they look cute in their Cheerleading outfits?’
Does my hair look OK..?
#52, GreatGranny2B, I don’t think princess winky would be tweeting under an alias. She is a member of the “proudly ignorant” and although we think she spews hateful drivel she believes she is delivering “pearls of wisdom.” There’s just no way she wouldn’t take credit for what she believes to be thoughtful, politically astute comments!
#70 honestyinGov, The comment the “cheerleaders” make that makes me throw-up a little bit in my mouth is “sarah rocks” But then what do you expect from fans of someone whose main venue of communication is a young persons social internet site and whose hero is best described as a 45 year
old high school mean girl. I’d be willing willing to bet she would put on that act in front of her daughter’s friends thinking the friends would think or say “gee, your mom is so cool.” In reality they were thinking “she’s weird & why doesn’t she dress her age?”
About a month after I joined TS and made a few comments and was accused of being a TROLL I was out eating dinner with my husband and some friends and my cell phone rings and guess who it is? Yep, one of the moderators at TeamSarah! Confirming I was who I was….funny, I usually answer the phone “Hi this is Kate” – but that day I went with plain old “hello”. The looks on my dining companions faces as I answered the questions was hilarious. I don’t remember exactly what she asked me, but I guess I convinced them I was a Sarah lover and have now been a member there since March. Someday when I tire of them I’ll reveal my fake name here and then see how quick I get thrown off proving they read the Mudflats!!
Thanks for the tips on getting a screencapture!
Maybe the Advocate Jones Award could be a cardboard cutout of Quitty to be used at the winner’s discretion. Different winner each month & cardboard Sarah’s all over the US. I am shocked at you mudpuppies….I had no idea so many of you visited Quitty’s site.
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/10/the_anger_of_the_festering_fri.html
Roger Ebert – a really good article about the frothing and dangerous fringe
*** Obama is a Muslim. Obama was born in Kenya. Obama was a terrorist. Obama will destroy Medicare. Obama will kill your grandmother. Obama is a racist. Obama wants atheism taught in the schools. Obama wants us to pay for the health care of illegal immigrants.
These beliefs are held by various segments of our population. They are absurd. Any intelligent person can see they are absurd. It is not my purpose here to debate them, because such debates are futile. With the zealous True Believers there is no debating. They feed upon loops within loops of paranoid surmises, inventions which are passed along as fact. Sometimes those citing them don’t even seem to care if you believe them. Sometimes they may not believe them themselves. The purpose is to fan irrational hatred against our president. ****
{ You REALLY want to check out this YouTube clip as well }
I like the ” Advocate Jones ” Award part.
As soon as I heard ‘ Jones ‘ I thought of that ( comedy ) song from years ago…. Basketball Jones and couldn’t get it out of my head. (because Sarah played basketball as well ) I had to look it up…? ” Cheech and Chong!!” Ha!
This is a YouTube clip you will really enjoy. Look at the characters in the clip and the lyrics as well. There are soooooo many analogies and tie-ins.
I liked the lyrics at about the .50 second mark. He talks about ‘ jonesing ‘ about basketball so much he can’t sleep at night .. etc.
I have to think $arah may be having trouble sleeping at night as well… But for totally different reasons.
1.The lyrics…” one on one against the world “…. and ” looking for someone to pass the ball to ” ( quitter speech at the Lake..?)
2.The clips has Cheerleaders in it…Facebook Fans, Team scarah, sea-of-pee
3.The character in the Big Cowboy Hat… kinda looks like old Rupert..doncha know?
4. Headphone guy.. could be Glenn… or Rush
5. Replace Nixon with new cranky Old White Guy-….McCain
6. There are smiling Chinese in the clip ( what a bonus )
7. At the end, a shot of the Empire State Building… SaraPac Fans had THAT one in their July 4th 30 sec. tribute
Look for your own special little nuggets….and pick out your favorite characters. It’s almost like Cheech and Chong predicted the future back in 1975. How did they Know…?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbp5C-5WXM
20 best signs @ the Gay Rights march yesterday:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/the-20-best-signs-at-the-national-equality-march/
Hey Shanynn is on msnbc…waving to shanynn!!!
Shannon mentions the holiday phone bank calls to Washington. Opps. Sarah’s outted.
Anyone who could get on the TEAMSARAH site deserves this award. During the campaign I tried, set up an email with an alias. Kept my answers dumbed down, xtian based, tried to make it sound as if I’d never been aware of anything politically and no way would they ok me…so to the many brave and ingenious that got through all that BS you have my sincere thanks for keeping the rest of us updated on the goings on!
Can you even believe this ??
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/10/nj_groups_to_rally_near_burlin.html
People went and protested near the school that is now known as the “school that sang about Obama”. A perfectly patriotic and lovely song. Something that school children have been doing for decades.
Nice write-up in HuffPo on Rachel Maddow – she’s extremely popular in the U.K. Lots of nasty comments – why can’t people be less cruel and accept other people’s life choices? She is so smart and talented, but the wingnutters can’t look past their ingrained (and inbred) prejudices.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/09/rachel-maddow-television-talkshow
Just saw a clip on MSNBC, no story on-line yet that I’ve found.
New Jersey – 6 year old first grader was so excited about joining cub scouts and getting his camping gear. Brought the knife/fork/spoon gadget to school to show and use for his lunch.
The school has a zero-tolerance policy regarding weapons. The CHILD has been expelled and could face 45 days in reform school.
This is outrageous!
WTF are our schools coming to? This is no way to make a child feel good about being in school and it is another reason people are pulling their kids out and trying to homeschool them as most cannot afford private school. But if someone has the money for private school, then they probably have the clout to keep their child from getting expelled.
Just a thought about whether or not $P deserves the title of governor: it irks me as she only completed 2 1/2 years of her term, I mean really irks me a lot.
For two summers, I worked at a law firm in NYC: Dewey, Ballentine, Bushby, Palmer and Wood, as in former presidential candidate Thomas E. Dewey and the former governor of New York. He was ALWAYS referred to as governor and addressed as such, attendant with much bowing and scraping. But that was 36 years ago, (yikes!) and he was a founding partner of a successful and prestigious law firm in NYC. Ms. Quitty? Not even close.
But I don’t know what the rules are for these things, and I assume that there are (can’t think of the right word here) rules that apply to this situation. I just don’t think that she deserves to be referred to as governor, at all, given her record and time in office. GAH.
OK, which one of you mudpups is Advocate Jones? Good job, whom ever it is !!
Story on the Huffpo about Rep. Weiner again.
Where a PAID FOR report put together by AHIP to make their case against reform in actuality makes a case for the reason that a Public Option is needed.
Boy… those details and Facts are tricky sometimes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/12/weiner-ahip-report-makes_n_317561.html
Claw Washout Palin @86 – Did something good get posted?
I went over there to look but can only see the opening page as I got rejected. However, on that opening page is something about American Grand Jury……..so I skipped on over to that site:
http://americangrandjury.org/
American Grand Jury – Super Jury Presentments are Finished and Published
Then there is this link http://americangrandjury.org/public/
which takes you to the documents that one can print off and SERVE! The charges are against Obama, Pelosi and the DNC and they are charging them with Fraud, Treason, and Election Fraud.
They even have a nasty cartoon on there that definitely came from Rush Limbaugh. Talk about TREASON – this is where it is really at! If anyone hasn’t looked at that site, maybe you should to see what that group is doing to incite violence. They are determined to take down President Obama by any means at all.
Aren’t there laws that cover this sort of thing?
Make sure everyone doesn’t forget about AKM’s radio gig in about an hour and a half. It’s a shame no one has a way to contact Rachel Maddow to let her know so she could listen in. She said she is a Mudflatter.
And since Rachel got started in her career in Radio… I’ll bet she would find it fun and interesting. At least someone at the Network there could tape it for her so she could listen later since AKM said it will NOT be podcast.
HIG – E-mail: Rachel@MSNBC.com
Thanks for the link..went to look. Yes they are very strange..and..sadly..there are enough of them to clog up normal political process..when they get agitated. Back in the 1970s..the step grandmother..would have bought every word on that site. scary indeed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-axelrod/palindroning-or-the-fine_b_316684.html
Good Read on SP and her habitual Quitting.
what does this mean? I found it over at Bree’s blog
On Levi Johnstons twitter page.
“Jaketapper.. I’m willing to give you a interview before deleting this account and placing all rumors to rest. Contact me or my lawyer.”
# Jake Tapper
# Location Washington DC
# Web http://abcnews.bl...
# Bio Sr White House Correspondent for ABC News
Advocate Jones come out come out wherever you are….we just know you’re here. There’s an award we are anxiously waiting to give you.
is this true? is this what the MIA writers at ocean of urine are leaving for? I found it on a gossip type column…….
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/cindy_adams/palin_still_trying_to_stir_political_M0Df7Ckt8eZ6ixCdPBOmYM
“Sarah Palin fans, take heart. Your per son of choice has no intention of going quietly. As we speak, she is gearing up. E-mails are currently going out to the favored faithful to help form a coalition. She is primed, ready and now forming a national organization called “Stand Up for Our Nation.”
a comment from the link I just posted, it’s pretty dang good.
KayJay90
10/12/2009 5:58 PM
First Sarah Palin plagiarizes Newt Gingrich in one speech, then plagiarizes Ronald Reagan in titling her book…now she’s plagiarizing FreedomWorks, who started the teabagger movement which is already doing what she’s calling her “new” national organization “Stand Up for Our Nation.”
Way to go, Sarah. Do you EVER have an original thought in your pointy little head? Or is this another idea from your incompetent support staff headed by Meg Stapleton?
From the David Corn article on Palin that BuffaloGal provided a link for earlier on this thread… This is comment that was posted is a bit long, but it is terrific and I thought to share it:
CJ
6:05PM Oct 12th 2009
You mean her book of fairytales!
Ex-Alaskan Governor turned writer Sarah Palin ends her visceral debut book, Going Rogue: An American Life, with a stern warning that the shocking revelations about her life are all real, and believing otherwise “would be a very bad idea.”
“Ridiculous” might be more apt, particularly in reference to a key scene where supposedly her husband savagely ripped out his own fibula and used it as a weapon to ward off an angry bear from attacking the Palin family in 1994. In fact, “ridiculous” could describe the whole book as it moves from one preposterous event to the next. Take for example, the highly suspicious circumstances in which Palin says her son was conceived- Sarah and Todd were somehow trapped in an overpopulated polar bear tank and decided that the best way to distract the hungry white beasts while they await rescue was by having sex. Because according to Palin “My daddy always told me, it’s hard to remember you’re hungry when you’re watching two people go at it.”
Palin hopes her new book will do better than her first book “Juneteenth- adding pizazz to your boring old swastikas
It’s a testament to the book’s amazing pop-up graphics and Palin’s pulsing narrative that her tale about a barely literate soccer-mom turned politician (with a penchant for shooting wolves from helicopters) is actually really entertaining. So entertaining in fact, that the book’s complete abandonment of logic and common sense are worth overlooking. What you get in return is vulgar, violent, giddy fun
However, HarperCollins, her publisher did not seem too impressed with the book upon first read and gave Palin an ultimatum- rewrite it or it won’t get printed.
The Publisher issued this press release in support of their ultimatum decision: “This is not a book for the squeamish or the weak of stomach: The you-are-there quality can be a bit much to take when, for example, the pop-up scene in which Palin tries to teach some pesky trespassing wolves a lesson. The gruesome scene details how Palin captured and tortured a wolf by destroying one of its eyeballs with a blowtorch in front of her cheering young children. Palin released the pirate wolf back into the wild after hours of torturing to send ‘them other wolves a message.’ Not only are the stories in the book vividly graphic and disturbingly gruesome but they’re all probably made up too. There are certain rules for writing an autobiography, and making up stories about your life breaks just about all of them.”
HarperCollins also stated it did not approve of Palin’s choice of wording for the book’s title, specifically the inclusion of the word rogue in the title. According to Merriam-Webster rogue is defined as:
1 : vagrant, tramp
2 : a dishonest or worthless person : scoundrel
3 : a mischievous person : scamp
4 : a horse inclined to shirk or misbehave
5 : an individual exhibiting a chance and usually inferior biological variation
Sarah Palin was unavailable for comment on HarperCollins press release. Sources close to Palin says she is undeterred by the negative criticism of the book
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Or are you talking about Sarah Palin and her escort service
HUNTSVILLE, AL. – Defense contractor Cathy Maples won a lunch date with ex-Governor of Alaska and part-time blogger Sarah Palin. Maples won the Ebay auction to dine with Palin with a bid of $63,500, which is $23,500 more than what Palin usually charges customers for a “Lunch Date on me” according to Palin’s escort site. Sources close to Maples say the Church Lady look-alike is furious and is even thinking of canceling her bid.
Palin getting cozy during one of her famous double “Governor’s special” sessions, which allows for customers to pull out before getting the job done.
One such source who spoke with Unreasonably Safe Observer is Willie Cunningham, an ex-employee and close friend of Maples. Cunningham told us that, “had Cathy known about Palin’s escort site she would’ve never bid more than $40,000,” and added, “heck, Cathy is even paying $3500 more than what Palin charges for dinner dates.”
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or are you talking about Sarah Palin – Public Speaker who no-one wants because they think she is an idiot
SARAH Palin is said to have pocketed a $7 million advance for the 400-page memoir she turned in four months early, but she might not have such an easy time on the lecture circuit.
After quitting as governor of Alaska in July, Palin signed with the top-notch Washington Speakers Bureau, which also reps George W. Bush, Laura Bush, Condoleezza Rice, hero pilot Chesley Sullenberger, LA Dodgers manager Joe Torre and magician David Blaine.
Palin’s bookers are said to be asking for $100,000 per speech, but an industry expert tells Page Six: “The big lecture buyers in the US are paralyzed with fear about booking her, basically because they think she is a blithering idiot.”
Many big lecture venues are subscription series, “and they don’t want to tick people off,” said our source. “Palin is polarizing, and some subscribers might cancel if she’s on the lineup.” Other lecture buyers are universities, which have a leftist slant, and corporations, which dislike controversy.
“Palin is so uninteresting to so many groups — unless they are interested in moose hunting,” said our insider. “What does she have to say? She can’t even describe what she reads.”
Palin likely quit as governor just months after losing the election as John McCain’s vice-presidential running mate because of money. “She knew that if she waited until her term ended in 2010, these opportunities would be gone,” said a source. “She would have lost millions by staying in office.”
I LOVE THE FINAL STATEMENT – SHE WOULD HAVE LOST MILLIONS BY STAYING IN OFFICE
(In Alaska as sitting governor she could NOT LEGALLY ACCEPT the book deal or LEGALLY charge Speaking fees because under Alaska Law she could not personally profit) Imagine that! Sarah Palin ABANDONED THE STATE OF ALASKA FOR PERSONAL FINANCIAL GAIN. I am shocked – NOT!!!!!!!
wow Empish, sen. white house correspondent for ABC……sure makes ya go hmmm.
the only Jack Tapper I found on twitter. Curious isn’t it?
amazon is bundling these two books together? ouch, lol.
and Gretta asks her readers if they think Scarah should be ‘annoyed’ with her editor? like why would Gretta even care? has she been chatting with Scarah? are they going to play this as more Scarah bashing?
This is what she asked:
Should Former Gov Sarah Palin be annoyed with her new book editor?
How would you feel about this (see below) if you were Former Governor Sarah Palin? Do you think she knew about it?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-08/palin-editors-double-life/?cid=hp:mainpromo3
“The Daily Beast has learned that a top HarperCollins editor who worked on Sarah Palin’s new memoir helped write another book about her: sophomoric send-up Terminatrix.
Sarah Palin might have a bone to pick with Adam Bellow, the veteran HarperCollins editor who toiled on her blockbuster autobiography, which is already a bestseller in advance of its Nov. 17 release.
Last October, at the height of Palin’s memorable vice-presidential run, Bellow was the anonymous co-author of a quickie paperback satire of the then-governor of Alaska.
Terminatrix: The Sarah Palin Chronicles—which has a cover featuring a Photoshopped governor in skin-tight leather and brandishing an automatic weapon—is a sophomoric send-up of Palin and her family, featuring digitally altered images and derisive captions, and packaged in a 5-by-7-inch, 96-page trade paperback. A representative gag: Palin’s face superimposed on a painting of Joan of Arc, with the mocking commentary: “In between junior high and high school, Sarah heard God’s call to save France.”
Please keep my son and family of 6 in your thoughts and prayers. The 4yr old woke up with flu yesterday and now they all have it. They are in touch with the Dr. via phone and email, have no underlying conditions and are okay so far. We know what to watch for. It is assumed to be H1N1 (because they all got hit at once amongst other things). I know they should make it through fine but they are my babies.
All I can do is drop off things and pray. It’s hard because I always take the sick grandchild to my house and we can’t even hug anyone this time. We have been going through a lot lately which is why I haven’t been on much and now this. I’m sorry for being a mess.
Thank you in advance for good thoughts for my family. So many wonderful people here, you are appreciated and make a positive difference worldwide. My kids need that now especially.
((((((((((((Michigander))))))))))))))))))
>>>>>>>>Thoughts and prayers heading your way!>>>>>>>
Say No @101… Well, now she has someone to blame for any critisism of her book, eh? Thanks for the link (o:
I’m gonna try to read up on posts and comments…have a lot of catching up to do.
Please say it ain’t so!! If this goes through, there is definitely a need to change some laws!
http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangeles/stories/2009/10/12/daily6.html
Report: News Corp., Liberty could enter mix for NBC Universal
FYI – News Corp. is owned by Rupert Murdoch who owns Fox and all those other media outlets.
Hugs to you and your family, michigander :>)
Michigander:
Both husband and I just had H1N1. Myself, I barely ran a temp, mostly cold symptoms. Hubby was feeling much worse than I had been, so took him in and got Tamiflu. Once he started that it really wasn’t bad. 3 days start to finish.
Will keep them in my prayers, but in our experience this was not as bad as they make it out to be.
Michigander
Hoping for a speedy recovery for your family.
Certainly we will think good thoughts for your family, michigander.
Really, this flu is typically mild and people tend to get over it in the same way as any other flu. We’ve all had flus every year since we were children, right?
Secondary infections, like pneumonias, are the reason for serious illness and the very few deaths that have occurred. People who are medically fragile, young babies, pregnant women are the ones most at risk for complications.
The primary reason that our health officials are concerned is about continued mutation and combining with very lethal viruses that are not easily contracted. If the highly contagious but mild virus combines with a virus that is highly lethal, but not very contagious, the resulting virus could be a bad combination of easily contracted AND highly lethal.
So the agenda is to supress the current flu as quickly and efficiently as they can.
According to information from World Health Organizations, this is NOT the current flu.
top story on Rachel Maddow is Baby Alex!
Zennie62, http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=49376
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Sarah Palin “Going Rogue” will keep her out of office
(modified by Snoskred – please don’t post entire articles for copyright reasons)
Since my intertoobz played hookey all night, I made Advocate Jones an award.
WAY TO GO, JONESY!
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hubby here has been coughing up his lungs for days now…just bringing wood in for the stove (about a 10-foot trip) is leaving him wretchedly tired and gasping for breath.
Don’t know if it’s regular flu or swine flu…we don’t have insurance and can’t afford a doctor’s visit (going to the doctor will cost at least a week’s income for us, more if a prescription is involved), so we’re treating the symptoms holistically
MonaLisa IS FIRED UP, READY TO GO!!
Great Job Mona! Now the winner just needs to come forward and claim it!
Oh goodness Justa!! Don’t take chances – if he gets bad, get him to the ER and the posse will come to your rescue!
http://www.freeclinics.us/freeclinic.php
Are any of these free clinics near to you? How about Moorehead or Shelbyville? I’ve deleted the ones that I know are in my area.
Community Health Clinic of Hardin & LaRue Counties 114 East Memorial Dr. Elizabethtown Kentucky 42701 (270) 763-9589
Community Care Clinic and Helath Referral Network 1025 Sanibel Way Suite E LaGrange Kentucky 40031 (502) 225-4564
Oldham County Healthcare Clinic LLC 115 E. Adams Street, Suite A LaGrange Kentucky 40031 (502) 222-6400
Baby Health Services 1590 Harrodsburg Rd Lexington Kentucky 40504 (859) 278-1781
Kentucky Free Hlth Clinic Assn, Inc. One St. Joseph Dr Lexington Kentucky 40504 (859) 252-4725
Nathaniel Mission Health Clinic P.O. Box 31 Lexington Kentucky 40588 (859) 255-0062
Refuge Ministries P.O. Box 23338 Lexington Kentucky 40523 (859) 224-1623
Saint Joseph Mobile Health Services One St. Joseph Drive Lexington Kentucky 40504 (859) 313-1109
Grace Medical Clinic 211 S 8th Street Mayfield Kentucky 42006 (270) 251-9885
Peoples Clinic Foundation 751 West 1st Moorehead Kentucky 40351 (606) 780-0140
New Hope Clinic (KY) 41 S. Court Street Owingsville Kentucky 40360 (606) 674-8822
Mercy Medicaly (KY) 615 Washington Street Shelbyville Kentucky 40065 (502) 647-4668
God Speed, justafarmer…hope your hubby gets well soon.
for all who want to do something additionally to help insurance coverage and reform for ALL, please sign the petition…it can’t hurt a thing and it may help those in positions such as justafarmer.
http://countdowntohealthcare.com/
GG2B,
We are landowners.
Last time we went to the doctor/ER we had to pay $300 upfront, and then had to pay the balance within a month.
We have no free clinics within 100 miles and we don’t qualify for free clinics anyway because we are landowners.
Doesn’t matter that our income is poverty level…we own land!!!!
sigh…
Oh, justa… I hope one of those clinics are near enough for you! Please keep us in the loop!
@ CG # 111
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Ignoring the tortured logic, misspellings, and pitiful rationalizations on Palin’s behalf, the author’s post is interesting only because it shows the process of acceptance of some of Palin’s fans that she doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in Hades of ever becoming a national political leader.
Hey….we can take attrition from Palin’s camp of fools any way it comes. LOL.
Okay Justa – Understand how they look at things and it is totally unfair. But REMEMBER………if he gets sicker and needs to go………there are plenty of us here who will hit that Paypal button in a second and help out.
OKAY????
Maybe they charge on a sliding scale? Does anyone know? Maybe it’d be worth the 100 mile trip if so…
btw…we donated $50 to freeclinics.us even though we can’t access that service
Justa, get him to a doctor. Tamiflu has to be started within 48 hours of onset. If you can’t find a doc you can afford, find a PA or an ANP. I will help out! Promise! My PA is smarter than most of the local docs and half the price for an office visit.
Thanks Empish – Justa needs to remember that we are family and will help out……isn’t that what family and friends are for?
not to worry about DH…he’s still coughing but nothing like he was doing two nights ago..
a combination of mountain herbal medicine and Vicks VapoRub (lol!) have made a huge impact (sadly, I’m out of coltsfoot…DH used that up…)
We’ll be fine. We’ve been dealing with most health probs on our own for almost 10 years since the health insurance company canceled without warning.
When I think about it…over the last 10 years we’ve have to pay every actual doctor/ER bills ourselves and it’s been waaaay less expensive than any insurance policy premiums/deductibles/co-pays.
I think we’ve spent about $5,000 total and out of pocket for healthcare in that time. Insurance would have cost that us more than that in one year. And we have enough in the savings account right now to cover a doctor’s visit but we wont bother until it gets really bad (and right now it looks like we’re ok)
What a trooper……….a stubborn one……….but a trooper nevertheless! But please (and this goes for anyone!) if there is a critical situation and help is needed, let us help if we can. And you don’t have to stranded in Greece!
GG, trust me, if things get bad, mudpups are who I will come to first (I’ve done it before for moral support for really hard times).
As for being stranded in Greece…bring it on!!!
I think I know how to be stranded in Greece and make it pay current and future tourist dividends for me…just because I know how to haggle…
My daughter took her son into the doctor because Thursday evening he was running a 102 temperature and it wasn’t better in the morning.She got him in by noon,had to wear mask and go out the back door..He did not have a cough but did have a cough,slight and said his legs felt like they would give out on him.Doctor did a test for strep throat and it came back negative so they did the test for the swine flu.Then Sunday mind you Sunday morning his doctor called and said he did have strep throat and explained that sometimes the quick test gives a false negative and gave a prescription for an antibiotic. Then Today He called and said he also had the swine flu and if his temp had been down for 24 hours he should be ok,Thankfully he so far at least seems to be ok.I have to keep reminding him he still has to take his meds through. One thing did surprise me the Doctor actually took the time on a Sunday to make that call.WE had been giving him Advil to keep his temperature down,There are a lot of good doctors out there if they would only be allowed to treat their patients as needed instead of how the insurance companies decree.
Hope everyone gets on the mend here. Lots of sickness going around everywhere here too. Half the town is wheezing and coughing. It is worrisome, and prayers and thoughts for you sick folks and families.
On another note, am curious, Buffalo Gal, did that filling work? Hope your tooth pain is gone…..wondered if those things really work.
Justa,
trying to remember everything Dr Ellenberg had to say, Vitamin C, zinc supplements, vitamin d. Support the immune system and cure the body. His show will be on tomorrow the hour before Studio 1080, takes callers, same phone number 907 569 1080. Informative and well worth listening to.
Michigander you and your family are certainly in my thoughts and prayers
Justa.usually at least in my state your home does not count toward eligibility nor should it for help with health care.But I guess all states don’t have the same we have badger care and badger care+50 I think it is called,which helps a lot of people who would otherwise fall thru the cracks.it is just surprising to me that other states don’t have the same type of thing.i do understand that a few do but not enough.and Like GG2B says we will all help so keep that in mind God be with you and Hubby Justa.
I wrote the following to Arizona Republic and it was printed over my name in Sunday’s paper.
Hate rants vs. Obama out of control
” I have become seriously concerned by the rapid escalation of ‘hate’ rants on television and radio since we elected Barack Obama as our President.
The last time I felt such anger and hatred in the air was when John F. Kennedy became our President. The onstitution does not give us the right to overthrow the government if a vocal minority can’t accept the choice made by the majority.”
I know I am one of he people that are at risk with the swine flu so believe me I stayed away as much as I could from my grandson,other then checking his tenp and giving him his meds.He is 13 so it really was kinds easy.
Oh Michigander, I hope everything goes ok- sending hugs!
Justa, I just got over the flu (regular I think). the cough has not left though. I hope mr. farmer has the reg. type and gets better quick. Vitamins for all! (and of course we all would help-say the word)
This is not just a blog. It’s a community! We help others, We will certainly help our own.
I’m very proud to be a part of such a wonderful group of caring mudpuppies that it brings tears to my eyes!
I hope everyone has a speedy recovery. Jojobo1 – what a great doctor you have!
And yes – plenty of us will help anywhere, anytime.
The CDC puts out a daily update on the swine flu and they recommended that ALL ADULTS take 2000 i.u. of Vitamin D every day from now through the winter months.
Gramiam – Very glad they published your letter – how true, now if only a few of the fringe would start to wake up and do the right thing, eh?
I almost missed you jojobo1- positive vibes coming your way,too! I hope all goes well. Anyone else I missed- GET WELL SOON! I have a feeling we will be saying that a lot this winter…
I’ll be in the treehouse …
Advocate Jones… is that the grandson of Bassaball Jones?
that is funny sauerkraut- I have been singing that song in my head since I read the article earlier!
Hope everyone on here is happy and healthy
sending good vibes
thanks for the shout out akm
You mean this, boo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbp5C-5WXM
Ha! sauerkraut, yes! I have not heard that in ages- so funny we both thought the same thing…cheech and chong ‘oooooweeeeoooo’
mudpups, please check out
cure zone (dot) com ……. if you have no health insurance, are sick or seek alternative healing.
I swear by silver colloidal for urine infections. Spraying into my nose has helped me get under control many an irritated sinus that was headed toward infection which would need a doc visit for antibiotic.
But for me, once a cold virus was established it (silver colloidal) or ecenachea (SP) would only lessen the days of illness, but still the danger is what virus grow into, so lessoning their attack to me seems a good thing.
Keep your immunity strong.
Wash your hands WELL with antibacterial soap, often! Clean surfaces commonly touched, virus can only live so long without a host, kill them with antibacterial cleaning often, avoid touching things or being in close breathing presence of those sick.
Stay strong mudpups. Take care of yourselves and let us know what is going on.
Personally I worry about my 2 yr old grandson contracting this.
oooh…I’ve been shut out of the sea o’pee….
bwahaahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
justafaramer, what in the world is sea o’ pee? Is that something everyone but me knows about?
renegade – it’s something best avoided. unless you want to spend mucho time throwing up.