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		<title>By: aha</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/12/the-ongoing-saga-of-sarah-palins-email/#comment-139989</link>
		<dc:creator>aha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;&#039;Peasants&#039;&#039; (Michael Moore&#039;s &#039;Capitalism A Love Story&#039;) have no legitimate right to question their rulers. Lest you believe otherwise, politicians are but prince&#039;s to the royal court of the Presidency. How else can Rangle &#039;&#039;mistake&#039;&#039; his disclosures and &#039;&#039;underestimate&#039;&#039; his assets, and &#039;&#039;overlook&#039;&#039; the IRS tax code (which he oversees) so blatantly for years on end with seeming impunity.

In case you don&#039;t believe it, APOC, the AG, Personnel Board, AK Legs, and those AK Legs are beholden to on either side of the party line, and especially the McCain campaign, have been rubbing your Alaskan faces in it for years...please wake up.  

I read, here, all the time how people call on the Fed as if that entity were the Creator, himself. Well, neither the Creator nor the Fed is coming to help, so get over it.

Is it a wonder countries eschew the Democratic experience and Capitalism, in general? People see what&#039;s going on. Thank the Heavens for PJ Bloggers.  Wasn&#039;t it funny the other day, Obama etal were talking about bribing Afghans and the Taliban to support our interests since bullets don&#039;t seem to work so well? Let&#039;s woo them with our devalued dollar, but the opportunity to overrun your neighbor still exists, here, in the land of plenty...lol...just don&#039;t get sick and if you do, just die, quickly, thank you kindly.

If you can&#039;t beat them join them.  The only way to effect change is to run for office and hope by the time you get elected your resolve is still intact. Hope the process hasn&#039;t overtaken you by the dark side. It&#039;s obvious you will only be listened to if you are one of them. 

We need someone poor to run for office, since it&#039;s painfully obvious anyone with the money to initiate action, who could act has no intention of doing so...I know many people are acting behind the scenes in unreported ways, but think of them as splinters, when what is needed is a blunt force object.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8221;Peasants&#8221; (Michael Moore&#8217;s &#8216;Capitalism A Love Story&#8217;) have no legitimate right to question their rulers. Lest you believe otherwise, politicians are but prince&#8217;s to the royal court of the Presidency. How else can Rangle &#8221;mistake&#8221; his disclosures and &#8221;underestimate&#8221; his assets, and &#8221;overlook&#8221; the IRS tax code (which he oversees) so blatantly for years on end with seeming impunity.</p>
<p>In case you don&#8217;t believe it, APOC, the AG, Personnel Board, AK Legs, and those AK Legs are beholden to on either side of the party line, and especially the McCain campaign, have been rubbing your Alaskan faces in it for years&#8230;please wake up.  </p>
<p>I read, here, all the time how people call on the Fed as if that entity were the Creator, himself. Well, neither the Creator nor the Fed is coming to help, so get over it.</p>
<p>Is it a wonder countries eschew the Democratic experience and Capitalism, in general? People see what&#8217;s going on. Thank the Heavens for PJ Bloggers.  Wasn&#8217;t it funny the other day, Obama etal were talking about bribing Afghans and the Taliban to support our interests since bullets don&#8217;t seem to work so well? Let&#8217;s woo them with our devalued dollar, but the opportunity to overrun your neighbor still exists, here, in the land of plenty&#8230;lol&#8230;just don&#8217;t get sick and if you do, just die, quickly, thank you kindly.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t beat them join them.  The only way to effect change is to run for office and hope by the time you get elected your resolve is still intact. Hope the process hasn&#8217;t overtaken you by the dark side. It&#8217;s obvious you will only be listened to if you are one of them. </p>
<p>We need someone poor to run for office, since it&#8217;s painfully obvious anyone with the money to initiate action, who could act has no intention of doing so&#8230;I know many people are acting behind the scenes in unreported ways, but think of them as splinters, when what is needed is a blunt force object.</p>
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		<title>By: deist</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/12/the-ongoing-saga-of-sarah-palins-email/#comment-139964</link>
		<dc:creator>deist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krubozumo Nyankoye:

It could be in the national interest for Palin&#039;s emails to be disclosed, especially if she became a national candidate (especially if it turned out the text of her emails revealed ugly things). Too bad this issue is being fought primarily in our obscure little wilderness called Alaska with little or no Outside help. This is a big deal. We need to know the truth about Palin, and she and her cronies don&#039;t seem to want to disclose the truth. Her upcoming book is no substitute.

It seems the Parnell administration, come hell-or-high-water, doesn&#039;t plan to release Palin&#039;s emails.

In another matter, they have made statements to me where they used the umbrella of executive privilege to justify their secrecy and denial of requested information. After reading those carefully worded excuses again, and after reading how they used similar wording elsewhere in similar denials, I think they may be planning to claim Palin had used candor in many of her communications, and those communications should be protected from public disclosure-- Parnell and DOL may claim she wouldn&#039;t have been able to effectively communicate without her candor, and therefore she would have been restricted from being able to perform her executive duties if she had felt restricted from using candor.

That&#039;s just my guess-- I think that is where we may be headed, and that is what they may say, if this all ended up in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krubozumo Nyankoye:</p>
<p>It could be in the national interest for Palin&#8217;s emails to be disclosed, especially if she became a national candidate (especially if it turned out the text of her emails revealed ugly things). Too bad this issue is being fought primarily in our obscure little wilderness called Alaska with little or no Outside help. This is a big deal. We need to know the truth about Palin, and she and her cronies don&#8217;t seem to want to disclose the truth. Her upcoming book is no substitute.</p>
<p>It seems the Parnell administration, come hell-or-high-water, doesn&#8217;t plan to release Palin&#8217;s emails.</p>
<p>In another matter, they have made statements to me where they used the umbrella of executive privilege to justify their secrecy and denial of requested information. After reading those carefully worded excuses again, and after reading how they used similar wording elsewhere in similar denials, I think they may be planning to claim Palin had used candor in many of her communications, and those communications should be protected from public disclosure&#8211; Parnell and DOL may claim she wouldn&#8217;t have been able to effectively communicate without her candor, and therefore she would have been restricted from being able to perform her executive duties if she had felt restricted from using candor.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just my guess&#8211; I think that is where we may be headed, and that is what they may say, if this all ended up in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Physicsmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Physicsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, AKM, just not buying it.  I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what your source &quot;said&quot; but he or she is misinformed or has been deliberately misled.  Good luck to the AKns in pursuing legal action (joining with the Dems or AP or the ACLU or whomever).  The key is to get the hard discs seized and frozen before any more shenanigans take place.  Unfortunately, I suspect &quot;aha&quot; is correct in that the out-of-pocket cost is too high to allow all but the most highly motivated parties to file for legal redress.  And that&#039;s the point of the whole exercise, as many have stated.  Subvert the whole idea of FOIA through obfuscation and delay.  And Celtic Diva&#039;s request was filed long after the ones AKM has written about above, so hers may fall to the bottom of the pile if they handle them chronologically.  However, she is the only one who has ALREADY paid, so she has the best case for disputing the delay and should be able to ask for interest on the money or some other penalty.  Too sad, the legacy of Madam Winky Quittypants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, AKM, just not buying it.  I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what your source &#8220;said&#8221; but he or she is misinformed or has been deliberately misled.  Good luck to the AKns in pursuing legal action (joining with the Dems or AP or the ACLU or whomever).  The key is to get the hard discs seized and frozen before any more shenanigans take place.  Unfortunately, I suspect &#8220;aha&#8221; is correct in that the out-of-pocket cost is too high to allow all but the most highly motivated parties to file for legal redress.  And that&#8217;s the point of the whole exercise, as many have stated.  Subvert the whole idea of FOIA through obfuscation and delay.  And Celtic Diva&#8217;s request was filed long after the ones AKM has written about above, so hers may fall to the bottom of the pile if they handle them chronologically.  However, she is the only one who has ALREADY paid, so she has the best case for disputing the delay and should be able to ask for interest on the money or some other penalty.  Too sad, the legacy of Madam Winky Quittypants.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynamen Winter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynamen Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KN~

I agree that WE must take action...and that, before all the media hype surrounding the release of palin&#039;s propaganda.  It would appear that Parnell and many others were indeed privy to the many palin deceptions and cover-ups long before she made her hasty exit....and since the MSM is choosing to ignore the real story here, citizen journalists must organize and force full disclosure and accountability.  

For those of us who have been closely following this sad saga....there are far too many things that just don&#039;t add up ~ and the obstacles are blatantly obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KN~</p>
<p>I agree that WE must take action&#8230;and that, before all the media hype surrounding the release of palin&#8217;s propaganda.  It would appear that Parnell and many others were indeed privy to the many palin deceptions and cover-ups long before she made her hasty exit&#8230;.and since the MSM is choosing to ignore the real story here, citizen journalists must organize and force full disclosure and accountability.  </p>
<p>For those of us who have been closely following this sad saga&#8230;.there are far too many things that just don&#8217;t add up ~ and the obstacles are blatantly obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Krubozumo Nyankoye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krubozumo Nyankoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that what I have to say is particularly important.

There is no excuse for not delivering the requested emails in a timely fashion, any decent email agent deployed since 1998 would be able to perform the necessary search and retrieval in a matter of a few minutes in the hands of a competent user.

Reviewing the emails is another matter but it leaves the question, is there any legitimate reason to review them? This was aired somewhat earlier but it seems that any claim of privilege would be dubious at best.  Does the current administration have any justification at all for redacting any portion of the requested emails? It they do Ak. is in deep trouble because the best reason for redaction is to hide malfeasance.  

IANAL so what follows is certainly subject to skeptical review by knowledgeable persons. 

It seems to me that if one has no redress with the state and is being stonewalled, the logical course of action from a legal view point is to escalate the game.  File suit in Federal court against the state.  Now, admittedly, since I have no knowledge of this procedure or how to initiate it or who would have standing, I will gladly refer to others in this.

However, from what I have seen in the comments so far, the response to this issue is confined to interested parties far flung but ineffectual, and local parties perhaps intensely interested but without the means to take further action. This is unsurprising, it is one of the things those in official positions depend upon to remain unexposed. However, the logical thing to do at this point would appear to make the story go viral and expand to the national
blogosphere.  If nothing else it will pull in lots and lots of expertise from across the board who can help move things forward. 

There are plenty of places that this can be aired in commentaries that might get the attention of bloggers. 

Need I supply talking points? :-)  I would suggest one more thing though and that is that AKM should make a new posting that is a call to action. Though it is important to inform, it is often timely to offer some direction.

If you want the emails, get organized, get busy and go get them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that what I have to say is particularly important.</p>
<p>There is no excuse for not delivering the requested emails in a timely fashion, any decent email agent deployed since 1998 would be able to perform the necessary search and retrieval in a matter of a few minutes in the hands of a competent user.</p>
<p>Reviewing the emails is another matter but it leaves the question, is there any legitimate reason to review them? This was aired somewhat earlier but it seems that any claim of privilege would be dubious at best.  Does the current administration have any justification at all for redacting any portion of the requested emails? It they do Ak. is in deep trouble because the best reason for redaction is to hide malfeasance.  </p>
<p>IANAL so what follows is certainly subject to skeptical review by knowledgeable persons. </p>
<p>It seems to me that if one has no redress with the state and is being stonewalled, the logical course of action from a legal view point is to escalate the game.  File suit in Federal court against the state.  Now, admittedly, since I have no knowledge of this procedure or how to initiate it or who would have standing, I will gladly refer to others in this.</p>
<p>However, from what I have seen in the comments so far, the response to this issue is confined to interested parties far flung but ineffectual, and local parties perhaps intensely interested but without the means to take further action. This is unsurprising, it is one of the things those in official positions depend upon to remain unexposed. However, the logical thing to do at this point would appear to make the story go viral and expand to the national<br />
blogosphere.  If nothing else it will pull in lots and lots of expertise from across the board who can help move things forward. </p>
<p>There are plenty of places that this can be aired in commentaries that might get the attention of bloggers. </p>
<p>Need I supply talking points? <img src='http://www.themudflats.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I would suggest one more thing though and that is that AKM should make a new posting that is a call to action. Though it is important to inform, it is often timely to offer some direction.</p>
<p>If you want the emails, get organized, get busy and go get them.</p>
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		<title>By: Krubozumo Nyankoye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krubozumo Nyankoye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies to all but I am putting this message here to bump my next message up to a new batch of 50 on the assumption that a lot of people don&#039;t read all of the replies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to all but I am putting this message here to bump my next message up to a new batch of 50 on the assumption that a lot of people don&#8217;t read all of the replies.</p>
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		<title>By: boodog</title>
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		<dc:creator>boodog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aha  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aha  <img src='http://www.themudflats.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: aha</title>
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		<dc:creator>aha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s cool boodog...I&#039;m always a little tongue in cheek and sarcastic. Seriously, though, thank the heavens for bloggers. Imagine all this information never seeing the light of day without them.

This whole Palin scam says more about the devolvement of American government away from serving the people, its real constituents, and into being a corrupt and oppressive force, serving only those with money as influence.

Alaskans have become slaves as evidenced by the disregard they receive from their public servants.  

Palin has to ask her self: Would Jesus behave in this way? 

The answer, though, being straight forward; I&#039;d love to hear her rationalize how she is the momma bear to her fellow Alaskans and everything she does is for their best interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s cool boodog&#8230;I&#8217;m always a little tongue in cheek and sarcastic. Seriously, though, thank the heavens for bloggers. Imagine all this information never seeing the light of day without them.</p>
<p>This whole Palin scam says more about the devolvement of American government away from serving the people, its real constituents, and into being a corrupt and oppressive force, serving only those with money as influence.</p>
<p>Alaskans have become slaves as evidenced by the disregard they receive from their public servants.  </p>
<p>Palin has to ask her self: Would Jesus behave in this way? </p>
<p>The answer, though, being straight forward; I&#8217;d love to hear her rationalize how she is the momma bear to her fellow Alaskans and everything she does is for their best interests.</p>
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		<title>By: trisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadCity Chick @131

Wow...that&#039;s interesting.   Too bad the ADN would never file a lawsuit against the state.

That paper doesn&#039;t work for &quot;the people&quot;, it seems to be an extention of the administration who only writes fluff pieces about Palin and company.        Shameful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadCity Chick @131</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;that&#8217;s interesting.   Too bad the ADN would never file a lawsuit against the state.</p>
<p>That paper doesn&#8217;t work for &#8220;the people&#8221;, it seems to be an extention of the administration who only writes fluff pieces about Palin and company.        Shameful!</p>
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		<title>By: trisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of something I learned from a Mormon missionary.  They are taught this:  Don&#039;t give meat when milk will do.

Translation:  When they are trying to convert someone to Mormonism and they start to ask questions......don&#039;t give too much information.  When asked a question, they are taught to give as little information as possible to satisfy them, and usually that means dodge the question by diversion.   Scary, I know.

In this case, they are trying to give out milk (dodge and divert) when we demand (and have the right) to receive the meat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of something I learned from a Mormon missionary.  They are taught this:  Don&#8217;t give meat when milk will do.</p>
<p>Translation:  When they are trying to convert someone to Mormonism and they start to ask questions&#8230;&#8230;don&#8217;t give too much information.  When asked a question, they are taught to give as little information as possible to satisfy them, and usually that means dodge the question by diversion.   Scary, I know.</p>
<p>In this case, they are trying to give out milk (dodge and divert) when we demand (and have the right) to receive the meat!</p>
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