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	<title>Comments on: Climate Change Bill Meets &#8216;Drill, Baby Drill&#8217;</title>
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	<description>Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics</description>
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		<title>By: jojobo1</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/21/climate-change-bill-meets-drill-baby-drill/#comment-141712</link>
		<dc:creator>jojobo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sa No we need more of these  projects.I jusy read where a factory here will be revamped to beging making these in the near future</description>
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		<title>By: Say NO to Palin in Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Say NO to Palin in Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, this may sound harsh......Alaskans and Alaska&#039;s economy are addicted to oil, the oil companies are the drug lords. Get help. Seek treatment. You are in denial. Addicts self destruct and cause much harm to those around them.

Seriously though, we are all enablers in this illness. I so wish we&#039;d get over and beyond our need of oil.

And I agree with you AKM, the repubs will try to get out ahead of this and drop damage bombs of fear and mongering.

Writers need to get positive optimistic green  articles in the papers, backed by scientific studies. They seek to brainwash with lies, we can inform with truths. People need to know their a alternatives, they need to see this more in the news. So those who can, please do.

I have no clue how it works. But all of us can gather and offer ideas for submissions. I know MO has at least one very successful wind project. And Alaska has Chenea Hot springs, that is an amazing story, they&#039;re plugging away every year going forward with new ideas. They deserve a lot of credit for vision, hard work. They deserve national attention in every state and city.
If we do a lot of these articles is will poke holes in their BS. 

Another area to get more out there is the awful environmental scares, if people want something to fear, that&#039;s real! The WV coal spill comes to mind. The Canadian Tar Sands is another. Get the main stream on the right side of fear and we may have a whole lot more real activists with facts, not spoon fed hate spewing ignorant tea baggers. Show the ugly side of big corporation greed and dirty energy. Main street needs to wake up, see the problems and solutions and understand the need for change. They need to be educated. It&#039;s ugly unpleasant stuff that people don&#039;t want to think about, but point out the obvious, what has to has to happen.

This has gone on long enough, it&#039;s just like the dang auto industry that drug their feet from the 70&#039;s till now, allowing themselves to become dinosaurs who drink oil like vampires, they deserved extinction, they had to be forced by legislation to make any change for the better. There are lots of cutting edge stories about transportation, and it&#039;s not just battery operated cars stupid Scarah. 

Let&#039;s do our own getting in front of the Repubs., generate interest, educate, share. 

We can do this. Work towards a group shift. Take articles to work to share with co-workers, talk about forward thinking possibilities around the drink fountain, at breaks and lunch, bulletin boards. Try to leave politics out of it. Let the Repubs shoot themselves in the foot, just like the rape vote, they&#039;re stupid enough, most are old fools. How do they think that rape vote is going to work for them in elections? 

this is a perfect example of what I&#039;m trying to convey......this small town is now building a visitor center to handle the curious and interested. This will be a tourism business in itself. Others will spring off it. They sell excess power to an electric coop. This is a good write up of just one successful wind farm here in MO. Sadly it has only one comment. See? It appears there are about 5 more in the works, a big one to be finished next spring.

http://www.hpj.com/archives/2009/jul09/jul27/windfarmfeaturedr.cfm


&quot; Busloads of senior citizens and school children from Kansas City and the surrounding area have already made trips to King City. Waltemath said King City is a small town with only two restaurants.

&quot;We are not set up to handle 200 people for lunch,&quot; Waltemath said.

Eight of the 27 Suzlon S-88 wind turbines on the wind farm are on land owned by Mike Waltemath, his brother and his sister. In fact, Wind Capital Group, which built the wind farm, asked Waltemath to talk with area farmers to see who might be interested in having a wind generator on their property. Waltemath said the majority of landowners were interested in the wind farm project and wanted to be involved. Most of those who did not want a tower on their property were not against wind energy; they just did not want to be part of the project for one reason or another.

The process

The whole process went much faster than they imagined it would. It was only about a year and a half from the time they first started talking about it until the towers were up and running. &quot; (lots more good stuff, go read it, and comment.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, this may sound harsh&#8230;&#8230;Alaskans and Alaska&#8217;s economy are addicted to oil, the oil companies are the drug lords. Get help. Seek treatment. You are in denial. Addicts self destruct and cause much harm to those around them.</p>
<p>Seriously though, we are all enablers in this illness. I so wish we&#8217;d get over and beyond our need of oil.</p>
<p>And I agree with you AKM, the repubs will try to get out ahead of this and drop damage bombs of fear and mongering.</p>
<p>Writers need to get positive optimistic green  articles in the papers, backed by scientific studies. They seek to brainwash with lies, we can inform with truths. People need to know their a alternatives, they need to see this more in the news. So those who can, please do.</p>
<p>I have no clue how it works. But all of us can gather and offer ideas for submissions. I know MO has at least one very successful wind project. And Alaska has Chenea Hot springs, that is an amazing story, they&#8217;re plugging away every year going forward with new ideas. They deserve a lot of credit for vision, hard work. They deserve national attention in every state and city.<br />
If we do a lot of these articles is will poke holes in their BS. </p>
<p>Another area to get more out there is the awful environmental scares, if people want something to fear, that&#8217;s real! The WV coal spill comes to mind. The Canadian Tar Sands is another. Get the main stream on the right side of fear and we may have a whole lot more real activists with facts, not spoon fed hate spewing ignorant tea baggers. Show the ugly side of big corporation greed and dirty energy. Main street needs to wake up, see the problems and solutions and understand the need for change. They need to be educated. It&#8217;s ugly unpleasant stuff that people don&#8217;t want to think about, but point out the obvious, what has to has to happen.</p>
<p>This has gone on long enough, it&#8217;s just like the dang auto industry that drug their feet from the 70&#8217;s till now, allowing themselves to become dinosaurs who drink oil like vampires, they deserved extinction, they had to be forced by legislation to make any change for the better. There are lots of cutting edge stories about transportation, and it&#8217;s not just battery operated cars stupid Scarah. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s do our own getting in front of the Repubs., generate interest, educate, share. </p>
<p>We can do this. Work towards a group shift. Take articles to work to share with co-workers, talk about forward thinking possibilities around the drink fountain, at breaks and lunch, bulletin boards. Try to leave politics out of it. Let the Repubs shoot themselves in the foot, just like the rape vote, they&#8217;re stupid enough, most are old fools. How do they think that rape vote is going to work for them in elections? </p>
<p>this is a perfect example of what I&#8217;m trying to convey&#8230;&#8230;this small town is now building a visitor center to handle the curious and interested. This will be a tourism business in itself. Others will spring off it. They sell excess power to an electric coop. This is a good write up of just one successful wind farm here in MO. Sadly it has only one comment. See? It appears there are about 5 more in the works, a big one to be finished next spring.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hpj.com/archives/2009/jul09/jul27/windfarmfeaturedr.cfm">http://www.hpj.com/archives/2009/jul09/jul27/windfarmfeaturedr.cfm</a></p>
<p>&#8221; Busloads of senior citizens and school children from Kansas City and the surrounding area have already made trips to King City. Waltemath said King City is a small town with only two restaurants.</p>
<p>&#8220;We are not set up to handle 200 people for lunch,&#8221; Waltemath said.</p>
<p>Eight of the 27 Suzlon S-88 wind turbines on the wind farm are on land owned by Mike Waltemath, his brother and his sister. In fact, Wind Capital Group, which built the wind farm, asked Waltemath to talk with area farmers to see who might be interested in having a wind generator on their property. Waltemath said the majority of landowners were interested in the wind farm project and wanted to be involved. Most of those who did not want a tower on their property were not against wind energy; they just did not want to be part of the project for one reason or another.</p>
<p>The process</p>
<p>The whole process went much faster than they imagined it would. It was only about a year and a half from the time they first started talking about it until the towers were up and running. &#8221; (lots more good stuff, go read it, and comment.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kimosabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimosabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll never forget taking the tour of Prince William Sound near Valdez, oh about 1987.  &quot;The safeguards cannot fail, and safety is paramount at all times,&quot; said the enthusiastic guide.  &quot;No, there could never be a spill here.&quot;  We watched the sea otters and seals playing in the clear water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll never forget taking the tour of Prince William Sound near Valdez, oh about 1987.  &#8220;The safeguards cannot fail, and safety is paramount at all times,&#8221; said the enthusiastic guide.  &#8220;No, there could never be a spill here.&#8221;  We watched the sea otters and seals playing in the clear water.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/21/climate-change-bill-meets-drill-baby-drill/#comment-141612</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a constant oil sheen on Cook Inlet.  They can&#039;t even drill safely in the Cook Inlet that doesn&#039;t have icebergs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a constant oil sheen on Cook Inlet.  They can&#8217;t even drill safely in the Cook Inlet that doesn&#8217;t have icebergs.</p>
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		<title>By: Juneaudream</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/21/climate-change-bill-meets-drill-baby-drill/#comment-141607</link>
		<dc:creator>Juneaudream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Son-the-first-born..works within a community college green energy..program. One..of the reasons..is as he was being birth&#039;d..and raised..he was being taken into the land..at every moment possible.  His first college degree was in Geography.  He learned living ..With the land..not seeing the land as profit-wh----g...potential.  Best those in Alaska..listen well to those who live a ..modest life  there.   We were all carried in waters of the womb..and waters of this planet..we must note.. and understand..and..cherish with..our total ..Life Choices.   Some around this country..would truely sell their human birth mother..for personal gain. Many more..are quite willing to sell their Earth Mother..for captivating tubes of designer creams n cosmetics, personal painted professional nails with applied rhinestones, or designer jeans..and an expensive Latte. Assorted spas,  and club memberships..oh yes..would just die..without them.  Look at how popular..inside the homes of america (where no one else can see)..are the tv program soaps and ..near-soaps of evening time. Lust and luxery ..SELL!  So then..do not go..sign a petiton....later today..watch ..Your hand..and..where you direct your..remote..ok? yes this wanders..but..there is..a point.., think..as you traverse the harsh..&#039;thought-scape&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Son-the-first-born..works within a community college green energy..program. One..of the reasons..is as he was being birth&#8217;d..and raised..he was being taken into the land..at every moment possible.  His first college degree was in Geography.  He learned living ..With the land..not seeing the land as profit-wh&#8212;-g&#8230;potential.  Best those in Alaska..listen well to those who live a ..modest life  there.   We were all carried in waters of the womb..and waters of this planet..we must note.. and understand..and..cherish with..our total ..Life Choices.   Some around this country..would truely sell their human birth mother..for personal gain. Many more..are quite willing to sell their Earth Mother..for captivating tubes of designer creams n cosmetics, personal painted professional nails with applied rhinestones, or designer jeans..and an expensive Latte. Assorted spas,  and club memberships..oh yes..would just die..without them.  Look at how popular..inside the homes of america (where no one else can see)..are the tv program soaps and ..near-soaps of evening time. Lust and luxery ..SELL!  So then..do not go..sign a petiton&#8230;.later today..watch ..Your hand..and..where you direct your..remote..ok? yes this wanders..but..there is..a point.., think..as you traverse the harsh..&#8217;thought-scape&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: lexky</title>
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		<dc:creator>lexky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great read. Planet First...</description>
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		<title>By: boodog</title>
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		<dc:creator>boodog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my favorites, Bill Nye the Science Guy, is becoming more involved with environmental issues. He has calculated the number of jobs created in alternative energies as being high enough to put a huge dent in the unemployment rates. I know the president spoke of this during the campaign, I just wish we could get it going before we find ourselves in another big &#039;Valdez&#039; type of situation. We can&#039;t fight big oil unless there is an alternative that not only is better for the environment but hits the majority of American workers where it counts- in their wallets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorites, Bill Nye the Science Guy, is becoming more involved with environmental issues. He has calculated the number of jobs created in alternative energies as being high enough to put a huge dent in the unemployment rates. I know the president spoke of this during the campaign, I just wish we could get it going before we find ourselves in another big &#8216;Valdez&#8217; type of situation. We can&#8217;t fight big oil unless there is an alternative that not only is better for the environment but hits the majority of American workers where it counts- in their wallets.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us.  When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.  ~Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us.  When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect.  ~Aldo Leopold, A Sand County Almanac</p>
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		<title>By: nswfm CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>nswfm CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Certain aspects of the quality of life we enjoy would be diminished, the population of the state would decrease drastically, jobs would evaporate, and the economy would be in a tailspin.&quot;

Look at the Las Vegas, Florida, Detroit and the Inland Empire/Central Valley areas of CA to see what an economic tail spin is. 

Don&#039;t shoot yourselves in the foot, AK. You look like you are headed that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Certain aspects of the quality of life we enjoy would be diminished, the population of the state would decrease drastically, jobs would evaporate, and the economy would be in a tailspin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Look at the Las Vegas, Florida, Detroit and the Inland Empire/Central Valley areas of CA to see what an economic tail spin is. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t shoot yourselves in the foot, AK. You look like you are headed that way.</p>
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