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	<title>Comments on: The Shannyn Moore Show &#8211; Dr. Rick Steiner Will Resign from U of A.</title>
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	<description>Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics</description>
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		<title>By: just sayin'</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/24/the-shannyn-moore-show-live-blogging-4/#comment-142563</link>
		<dc:creator>just sayin'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from &#039;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man&#039; by John Perkins, (a must read is you want to understand where the real power in this country is)...&quot;I also realized that my college professors had not understood the true nature of macroeconomics : that in many cases helping an economy grow only makes those few people who sit atop  the pyramid even richer, while it does nothing for those at  the bottom-except push them even lower.  Indeed promoting capitalism often results in a system that resembles medieval feudal societies.  If any of my professors knew this, they had not admited it- probably because big corporations, and the men who run them, fund colleges.  Exposing the truth would undoubtedly cost those professors their jobs-just as such revelations cost me mine.&quot;  Thank you Professor Steiner for standing  up to those powers, for all of us 2 and 4 leggers, in pursuit of truth...keep up the good work, there are many of us who will be watching for what&#039;s next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from &#8216;Confessions of an Economic Hit Man&#8217; by John Perkins, (a must read is you want to understand where the real power in this country is)&#8230;&#8221;I also realized that my college professors had not understood the true nature of macroeconomics : that in many cases helping an economy grow only makes those few people who sit atop  the pyramid even richer, while it does nothing for those at  the bottom-except push them even lower.  Indeed promoting capitalism often results in a system that resembles medieval feudal societies.  If any of my professors knew this, they had not admited it- probably because big corporations, and the men who run them, fund colleges.  Exposing the truth would undoubtedly cost those professors their jobs-just as such revelations cost me mine.&#8221;  Thank you Professor Steiner for standing  up to those powers, for all of us 2 and 4 leggers, in pursuit of truth&#8230;keep up the good work, there are many of us who will be watching for what&#8217;s next.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wolf Pack...did you listen to the whole show???  That was kind of the point.  They talked about Steiner&#039;s opposition specifically to off shore drilling in Bristol Bay.  The Bush Administration was full speed ahead despite Steiner&#039;s objections...Obama just did a 180 and justified Steiner&#039;s opposition.

Furthermore, they talked extensively about the real beginnings going back in March 1989...

This is a huge brain trust loss...in 2006, when Israelis deliberately bombed Lebanese fuel storage tanks on the Mediterranean Sea (Twice) creating the worst environmental castrophe in history there...They called Dr. Rick Steiner and flew him out for a comprehensive assessment.  

The students as well as the community of Anchorage and Fairbanks ought to be rioting in the streets over this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wolf Pack&#8230;did you listen to the whole show???  That was kind of the point.  They talked about Steiner&#8217;s opposition specifically to off shore drilling in Bristol Bay.  The Bush Administration was full speed ahead despite Steiner&#8217;s objections&#8230;Obama just did a 180 and justified Steiner&#8217;s opposition.</p>
<p>Furthermore, they talked extensively about the real beginnings going back in March 1989&#8230;</p>
<p>This is a huge brain trust loss&#8230;in 2006, when Israelis deliberately bombed Lebanese fuel storage tanks on the Mediterranean Sea (Twice) creating the worst environmental castrophe in history there&#8230;They called Dr. Rick Steiner and flew him out for a comprehensive assessment.  </p>
<p>The students as well as the community of Anchorage and Fairbanks ought to be rioting in the streets over this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Pack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised Shannyn didn&#039;t connect the dots.  Rick&#039;s problems started in 2008.  This was under Pres. Bush, the science denier.  We all know how Bush tried to silence career scientists by putting his political appointees in charge of agencies such as EPA, NASA, NIH and FDA.   Many at EPA resigned in disgust.  NASA scientist went public, over the censorship, the rewriting &amp; revision of their scientific work by political appointees, to fit Bush&#039;s drill, baby, drill and the gutting of clean air and water agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised Shannyn didn&#8217;t connect the dots.  Rick&#8217;s problems started in 2008.  This was under Pres. Bush, the science denier.  We all know how Bush tried to silence career scientists by putting his political appointees in charge of agencies such as EPA, NASA, NIH and FDA.   Many at EPA resigned in disgust.  NASA scientist went public, over the censorship, the rewriting &amp; revision of their scientific work by political appointees, to fit Bush&#8217;s drill, baby, drill and the gutting of clean air and water agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Man_from_Unk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Man_from_Unk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess resigning is the honorable way to go when Big Money takes control of ethics in an educational system.  It&#039;s happening in Rural Alaska too.  Pay the bill for support.  This is a giant step backwards for progress in Alaska.  What&#039;s the point of an education if we&#039;re going to allow Big Money to bully us around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess resigning is the honorable way to go when Big Money takes control of ethics in an educational system.  It&#8217;s happening in Rural Alaska too.  Pay the bill for support.  This is a giant step backwards for progress in Alaska.  What&#8217;s the point of an education if we&#8217;re going to allow Big Money to bully us around?</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf Pack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amazed the Dr Steiner story has not gone viral.   It is not very often that fascism raises it&#039;s ugly head to the extent of censoring and the firing a tenured Professor.  Why are others silent?  The press, the doctors, the lawyers, the politicians who are sworn into office to serve the people, the fellow professors, the accreditation bodies, the student body, local teachers and the teachers union,?  

This is a classic case... Socrates ordered to take a sip of hemlock,  the persecution of Copernicus,  Galileo, Solzhenitsyn, the Spanish Inquisition.   

This is what Naomi Wolf warns us about in her book &quot;The End of America&quot;.  Naomi Kline discusses in her book &quot;The Shock Doctrine&quot;.   Noam Chomsky has also fought censorship of fellow Professors.  

Shannyn suggested this is happening across America.  No it isn&#039;t!  We do not live in Mussolini&#039;s Italy.  We do not have Gulags for Professors or authors who are not beholden to authority.   We are not burning books, as they did in Hitler&#039;s Germany.

Yes, awarding or not funding research happens by means of corporate sponsors.  But, censorship and firing Professors because of their views is not happening. 

What is it going to take for Alaskans to wake up?  Why hasn&#039;t Kieth Obermann or Rachael Maddow picked up this story and ran with it? 

The last place my child would attend is the University of Alaska to be programmed into a corporate moron, a mind tooled for a special interest corporate sponsor.  It is not as if the State is broke.  The University has a  huge  endowment as a land grant State University.   The State has over $ 50 billion in the bank.  There is no means for  the University to be a place of higher education when Professors and students are censored and punished for not being puppets to the ruling class and special corporate interest.

This is Orwellian and a major attack on Freedom that America&#039;s Founding Father&#039;s defined as our inalienable rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed the Dr Steiner story has not gone viral.   It is not very often that fascism raises it&#8217;s ugly head to the extent of censoring and the firing a tenured Professor.  Why are others silent?  The press, the doctors, the lawyers, the politicians who are sworn into office to serve the people, the fellow professors, the accreditation bodies, the student body, local teachers and the teachers union,?  </p>
<p>This is a classic case&#8230; Socrates ordered to take a sip of hemlock,  the persecution of Copernicus,  Galileo, Solzhenitsyn, the Spanish Inquisition.   </p>
<p>This is what Naomi Wolf warns us about in her book &#8220;The End of America&#8221;.  Naomi Kline discusses in her book &#8220;The Shock Doctrine&#8221;.   Noam Chomsky has also fought censorship of fellow Professors.  </p>
<p>Shannyn suggested this is happening across America.  No it isn&#8217;t!  We do not live in Mussolini&#8217;s Italy.  We do not have Gulags for Professors or authors who are not beholden to authority.   We are not burning books, as they did in Hitler&#8217;s Germany.</p>
<p>Yes, awarding or not funding research happens by means of corporate sponsors.  But, censorship and firing Professors because of their views is not happening. </p>
<p>What is it going to take for Alaskans to wake up?  Why hasn&#8217;t Kieth Obermann or Rachael Maddow picked up this story and ran with it? </p>
<p>The last place my child would attend is the University of Alaska to be programmed into a corporate moron, a mind tooled for a special interest corporate sponsor.  It is not as if the State is broke.  The University has a  huge  endowment as a land grant State University.   The State has over $ 50 billion in the bank.  There is no means for  the University to be a place of higher education when Professors and students are censored and punished for not being puppets to the ruling class and special corporate interest.</p>
<p>This is Orwellian and a major attack on Freedom that America&#8217;s Founding Father&#8217;s defined as our inalienable rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/24/the-shannyn-moore-show-live-blogging-4/#comment-142514</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@justa and @strangelet:
Shannyn doesn&#039;t have a cut off switch.  I know when they have a lot of calls, it is generally more interesting to the listener to not have long, drawn out conversations.  It&#039;s Rishi&#039;s discretion most times.  Perhaps let Rishi know you have more than 1 point to make next time and tell Shannyn as well at the beginning of your call.  I enjoyed your call.  Best of luck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@justa and @strangelet:<br />
Shannyn doesn&#8217;t have a cut off switch.  I know when they have a lot of calls, it is generally more interesting to the listener to not have long, drawn out conversations.  It&#8217;s Rishi&#8217;s discretion most times.  Perhaps let Rishi know you have more than 1 point to make next time and tell Shannyn as well at the beginning of your call.  I enjoyed your call.  Best of luck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: justafarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>justafarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>strangelet...the elevator speech it it!
I shall prepare better next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strangelet&#8230;the elevator speech it it!<br />
I shall prepare better next time.</p>
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		<title>By: GreatGranny2B</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreatGranny2B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good show from what I could tell, as I am unable to hear it so I rely on you great bloggers who type it out.  I followed the link to read the background info - what a terrible time Dr. Steiner has had!  It is amazing that he has managed to stick it out for this long - a less dedicated person would have been gone years ago.  To me, this is another nail in Palin&#039;s coffin.  She probably was much more involved than what little is stated in the article.

TalkingPointsMemo has a story about some teabaggers and other disgruntled people (including military) who are promoting a third party (ala Palin) and are openly promoting civil disobedience.  It gets crazier by the day.  http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/tea_partier_uses_army_email_address_to_call_for_ci.php?ref=fpb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good show from what I could tell, as I am unable to hear it so I rely on you great bloggers who type it out.  I followed the link to read the background info &#8211; what a terrible time Dr. Steiner has had!  It is amazing that he has managed to stick it out for this long &#8211; a less dedicated person would have been gone years ago.  To me, this is another nail in Palin&#8217;s coffin.  She probably was much more involved than what little is stated in the article.</p>
<p>TalkingPointsMemo has a story about some teabaggers and other disgruntled people (including military) who are promoting a third party (ala Palin) and are openly promoting civil disobedience.  It gets crazier by the day.  <a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/tea_partier_uses_army_email_address_to_call_for_ci.php?ref=fpb">http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/tea_partier_uses_army_email_address_to_call_for_ci.php?ref=fpb</a></p>
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		<title>By: justafarmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>justafarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>strangelet, I call most every Saturday and I almost always get cut off in mid-sentence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strangelet, I call most every Saturday and I almost always get cut off in mid-sentence</p>
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		<title>By: strangelet</title>
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		<dc:creator>strangelet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justafarmer -- I now realize it&#039;s gotta be an &quot;elevator speech&quot;.  I have to think there&#039;s a timer, just because the cutoffs come at such random points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justafarmer &#8212; I now realize it&#8217;s gotta be an &#8220;elevator speech&#8221;.  I have to think there&#8217;s a timer, just because the cutoffs come at such random points.</p>
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