Gingrich to Palin and Pawlenty – Go Sit in the Corner
“You don’t strengthen yourself by having a purge.” So said Newt Gingrich to Fox’s Greta Van Susteren. What does he think about ex-governor Sarah Palin, Governor Tim Pawlenty and Teabag organizer Dick Armey lining up behind the obscure independent and very conservative candidate in New York state’s District 23? Not very much.
Well, I just find it fascinating that my many friends who claim to be against Washington having too much power, they claim to be in favor of the 10th Amendment giving states back their rights, they claim to favor local control and local authority, now they suddenly get local control and local authority in upstate New York, they don’t like the outcome.
There were four Republican meetings. In all four meetings, State Representative Dede Scozzafava came in first. In all four meetings, Mr. Hoffman, the independent, came in either last or certainly not in the top three. He doesn’t live in the district…[snip]
So I say to my many conservative friends who suddenly decided that whether they’re from Minnesota or Alaska or Texas, they know more than the upstate New York Republicans? I don’t think so. And I don’t think it’s a good precedent. And I think if this third party candidate takes away just enough votes to elect the Democrat, then we will have strengthened Nancy Pelosi by the divisiveness. We will not have strengthened the conservative movement.
I have only one thing to say about that.
Well I certainly hope they get a Dem elected, and then $P can remain true to her conservative roots and give the kiss of death to the rest of the party
Thanks Sarah for dividing the Repub party. Go girl.
I never thought that I would say this but…gulp…gasp…Atta Boy Newt!
But can it be…conservatives are now condemning the Newt big time!
I’m with pvazwindy–You go, girl!
Please pass the kernels… this drama is gettin’ good!
newt vs. palin…sweet….she is now, the great divider…also , too…
Is that popcorn I see there?
The problem is that…………..Palin could give a $hit….as long as she is constantly on the “news” she maintains her “celebrity” status……….and THAT is her “money maker”……………..$$$……all she ever cared about………
This morning we went from ” Guns for Clunkers “…
And now we have ” Clunkers for Conservatives “.
Everybody needs to buy their popcorn by the case. It’s cheaper… and you may run out at this rate.
* As a reminder- HBO will be running that Movie about Barack Obama on Nov. 3rd
http://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/bythepeople/
Go sarah, go sarah, go sarah. I get all warm and fuzzy inside knowing Newt is pissed. =)
Carpetbaggers!
Lead the lemmings off a cliff, Sarah!
Pawlenty, was a little late coming to the party. Guess he wanted to see which way the flag was flapping. Ha, and he still didn’t get it right. These right wing nuts have splintered their party, so badly, a fire would be hard to start.
I hate to recognize it because Newt Gingrich’s views are very strongly Republican (of course, that’s what he is… Big time), but he is not without intelligence and definitely not without common sense. Fortunately, it appears that many other Republicans prefer to ‘follow their hearts ‘ and their ‘sweetheart’ Sarah Palin and do the ‘Rogue’ thing.
Going rogue
Why should Palin care about the GOP? Since McCain refused permission for her serf serving concession speech on election night, relations with the GOP have only deteriorated.
Palin is now a “free agent” cashing in on her celebrity, and Beck and Limbaugh have shown that there’s more money to be made when the GOP flounders at the national level.
MaxBlumenthal will be on MSNBC today at 430-5 discussing NY-23 GOP split.
OMG @3 – I know that was tough. Popcorn washed down with a little wine. I had a similar reaction. But, at least Newt is not entirely barking moonbat insane. We have to give credit where it’s due. ( they’re going to have to start digging a hole because that GOP bar just can’t go any lower)
@ 2:50 or so,
“The conservative movement has gotten very excited about this race based largely on misinformation”.
Ya think? Backfire much? Bwahahaha….
Palin = Queen Miss Information!!!
BigPete/ She’s also pissed that McCain gave up the fight in Michigan. Don’tcha know, Sarah and Todd were the anointed saviour’s of the Wolverine state.
AKM — response from conservatives in NY has been swift. Check this out:
http://washingtonindependent.com/65261/conservatives-laugh-off-gingrich-presidential-dreams
Sorry, make that Virginia. Not NY.
During the campaign when SP wore the donkey scarf, we knew she wasn’t a Republican. No thinking candidate would have made that mistake. It is time for a hibernation by the Republican party. Maybe they can wake up next spring refreshed and sane.
The worst thing I could imagine is if Newt was the Republican Chairman. His reputation for knocking a few heads and getting Republicans to tow the party line was legendary when he was leader in the house.
I say, keep on going Sarah. As long as she continues to divide the party then Democrats remain stronger than the Republicans. She has no hope of taking over the party completely and while some Republicans realize that and are trying to seek unity, others are egging her on and controlling the message that comes out of her Facebook. Such as the Susan B. Anthony group that has been behind her support for the third party candidate in NY, causing what might be a Democrat win in a district known as Republican.
BigPete Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Going rogue
Why should Palin care about the GOP? Since McCain refused permission for her self serving concession speech on election night, relations with the GOP have only deteriorated.
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To this day, I still cannot believe how she had the gall to do this…I mean she loaded up the telepromter. She has never denied this.
teleprompter looks better!
Hmmm. Pawlenty is not even well liked in his own state, Sarah deserted her state, Michele B. doesn’t even know what state she’s in. And if Newt’s talking about Perry from Texas–he’s too busy covering up the execution of an innocent man in his state. Now the conservatives will try to eat Newt alive. Ye reap what ye sow Newt.
Popcorn indeed–with a whole lotta butter.
Feel like doing the Nelson, “Haw-Haw”.
She’s gone and done it now. Sarah’s rogueness is sending the republican party train off the tracks – into the bus – under it’s wheels.
I just keep thinking Palin is doing anything Murdoch tell’s her to do. I’m I just as ignorant as the far right for thinking there is a conspiracy going on behind our backs?
I can’t believe that I agree with gingrich.
I hope the republicans fight among themselves and allow Democrats to win.
Bill Owens is winning and running a decent campaign.
More of the same from the R and C, nasty attack adds, still have no idea what they stand for.
What gives palin, a failed VP candidate, quitter Gov. and quitter state worker the moral authority to comment on another campaign?
Her Face Book is a sham, there is NO WAY she is writing those. They do not sound like her, they are too organized, coherent and logical.
I can’t wait till she gets out on that book tour, somebody needs to start those pesky questions and make this women talk!
Miss Wasilla claims she was at a girls basketball game last night or the night before, on today;’s Fakebook post.
I checked Palmer since that is where Willow goes to school.
Basketball season starts in November.
I guess it could be a practice….still, she lies about everything.
http://www.highschoolsports.net/defaultcal.cfm?ct=m&schoolid=AK9964518032&timeoffset=240
Sarah’s bus was seen careening towards New York :
http://southbuffaloonline.com/clients/southbuffaloonline/palinbus.jpg
I think the only way to settle this is to have a debate between Newt and winky.
One thing, this time there will be some ground rules. Winky will not be allowed to state that she isn’t going to answer questions being asked of her. I could not believe Gwen Ifill let her get away with that. Too bad the debate wasn’t moderated by Bill Moyers or, God rest his soul, Tim Russert.
Either one of them would have put the little shrew in her place. Newt wouldn’t let her get away with any crap like Joe Biden did either. I hope she puts some nasty, snarky remarks on her insipid little facebook page about newt & he eviscerates her.
jc in co @29 – i’ve never thought as highly of gwen ifill since the vp debate. apparently, she had some of her own conflicts of interest going on related to her own book, or something like that.
The Republicans are forming a circular firing squad. Pass the ammo!!
Well I get to vote in this special election! While I’ll most likely vote Owens, I’m nervous he’ll be too conservative on some social issues, as well as on health care. Some unions in the area have endorsed Dede (again) because she is usually labor friendly. decisions, decisions…I’ve seen a couple Hoffman signs around town, they make me nervous, too (also). I did receive a call from Owen’s camp. They were polite and kept it short and sweet. Unlike the pollster who called my friend and gave her a hard time.
The so called Canadian Free Press talked about in the other post ,also did a slam job on the Neutered One for backing the “Acorn loving republican candidate” in NY23 . I guess that’s their new slam against anyone that disagrees with the hard liners.
We want a third party.
ewwww….I hear that long, wet kiss that Greta is delivering to palin
jeebus.
Guess Newtscum doesn’t want to be POTUS as bad as we thought. By speaking ill of XINO , he’s added himself to the Teanutters hit list.
Watch out, Newtie, Bumpit Barbie’s warriors are armed and dangerously unbalanced, also too.
I don’t know why the “conservatives” are in such a snit about Gingrich endorsing the Republican candidate. They’re both Republicans. Duh. The Tea Baggers/Conservatives/Whatever They Want To Call Themselves can pick their own candidate, but don’t gripe because Newt follows the party.
@Bea (36):
Newt can be coy about running, but he has way too much personal baggage to be a legitimate candidate. Wait…most of the supposed runners have way too much personal baggage.
You go, Newt
While I agree with Newt, and he sounds like one of the few sane repubs left, I still don’t like him or trust him. The last thing I want is for him to have any real political power again. So, I’m willing to just watch the repub party continue on their self-destructive, misguided path. Hopefully they won’t figure it out until after some more progressive dems get into office.
Oprah to Palin as she enters: “Can I call you Sarah?”
And here’s a tasty morsel of the schrapnel from the beserk-ular GOP firing squad (from the article LibertyLover posted @ 18):
“Newt for 2012?” wrote Michelle Malkin. “No thanks… constantly invoking Reagan isn’t going to erase the damage Gingrich has done to his brand over the years by wavering on core issues and teaming up with some of the Left’s biggest clowns.” Washington Times editorial writer Quin Hillyer wrote that Gingrich was “choking and sputtering” and had “lost touch with the concerns of the people he should be listening to.” Robert Stacy McCain, a conservative journalist whose occasional collaborator Lynn Vincent helped write Sarah Palin’s memoirs, labeled the former speaker “an unprincipled partisan hack.”
LOLOLOLOLOL!
#28 Buffalo Gal: Funny link. Yep, that bus should have monster wheels! The Rogue Express gives travellers chills, hot thrills and muddy spills; if the transmission quits half way, get off and we promise (wink) a full refund from the State of Alaska.
BuffaloGal, loads teleprompter, then she continued to criticize the President for using one.
Gingrich wants the decision of the voters of Upstate NY to be respected but not the voters of the United States who elected Obama POTUS and Democrats to majorities in both houses of Congress.
Newt, as one type of mudpuppy to another, Sarah is chaos in hooker boots, you are presumably one of the people who convinced her to quit as governor and go national, now only a few months later you are saying that the thrid party she candidate she supports will cause chaos if they split the RepoTaliban/RepoCon vote.
Newt, you are, one of the more powerful politicians in the Republican party and you have already lost control of your acolyte. As a leadership test you just failed, as a judge of human value you just joined McCain as being punked by Winkypoo Palin.
I’ll give Winky credit, not too many 45 year old women have her ability to hood wink men, she must drown herself with musk oil perfume.
Wow. Newt answered clearly and succinctly, and made his case. Heck! He even convinced me!
Points he made:
1) Repubicans IN THE DISTRICT picked Scozzafava and they did not regard Hoffman very highly (Remember Hoffman was a Republican and decided to run on the other party himself).
2) With the exception of her abortion and gay rights stance, Scozzafava’s stance on the issues is clearly very Republican, and hardly ‘liberal’.
3) No candidate will ever please every voter 100%
4) By extension of number 3 above, a Republican voter who allows those two issues to be the most important issues to them will almost insure that the democratic candidate wins (and LOVED the Pelosi’s reign will therefore be ensured forever threat!
5) LOVED the “Outsiders” reference. Brilliant. Said, “Y’all complain about people from DC running things? Scozzafava was picked by District 23 Republicans. Hoffman doesn’t live in the district (need to researche that …) and his money all comes from outside. How dare Minnesota, Alaska, Texas republicans tell the District what to do.
I dislike the guy too, but as many have said, he ain’t dumb. Sarah could learn a lot from him … if only she admitted that there’s a lot of stuff she needs to learn if she wants to be in the political arena anymore.
And I WOULD pay money (maybe not much) to watch SP in a debate with the Newtster.
@27 Lilybart Says:
Miss Wasilla claims she was at a girls basketball game last night or the night before, on today;’s Fakebook post.
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Fakebook post…………..I love it. Very clever!!!!
22 Irishgirl Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:52 AM
BigPete Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Why should Palin care about the GOP? Since McCain refused permission for her self serving concession speech on election night, relations with the GOP have only deteriorated.
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To this day, I still cannot believe how she had the gall to do this…
It was a beautiful example of just how ignorant she is as a politician and as a Republican, that she had apparently never followed a race and noticed that the VP candidate never give a concession speech.
And a classic example of just how vain and self aggrandizing she is.
Palin isn’t a “real” Repbulican, so what does she care. I think her loyalties lie to: 1. herself 2. AIP not the GOP.
She’s just in it for the fame and fortune anyway.
The Alaska Daily News is reporting that Palin received 1.25 million as a retainer (first payment) on her book contract. If the contract was a standard one third on signing, one third on delivery of an acceptable manuscript, one third on publication, that would make the total 3.75 million, far less than the 7 to 11 million early reports suggested.
And so, the grand old CRAP party begins . . . !
34 Lainey Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:39 AM
ewwww….I hear that long, wet kiss that Greta is delivering to palin
Did you see how taken aback Greta was when Gingrich said Hoffman wasn’t even from the district.
Now we know why Greta quit lawerying, you gotta do your homework.
Marnie…to which I add.
She seemed to be…errr….confused about the fact that she wasn’t at the head of the ticket. I could see that she thought SHE was the Presidential candidate from early on in the race.
Can anyone say narcissistic personality disorder? I can!
Bree Palin has a link to the wapo regarding levi’s appearance tomorrow morning. According to the story he’s ready to start leaking because she’s been real crappy to him.
I absolutely love the graphic … the JiffyPop … I don’t know how you did it, but it is great. Buffalogal, I just don’t know how to say this because I can’t believe it myself: I knew the GOP was going to implode, but everytime I think they have sunk as low as it can go, (like when Sanford WALKED OFF THE JOB to see his mistress) wham! They surprise me with a new low. This infighting is amazing to watch. They should start digging the hole, because I think it is going to go all the way to ?
I live in this district and have had a lot of interesting pamphlets in the mail. Yesterday was one with the NRA endorsing Scozzafava and also one from the SEIU United Healthcare Workers saying Scozzafava is out of touch with health care needs.
But my favorite one so far has been one with a picture of Joe Wilson, Limbaugh and Palin in carictature, including Palin holding a tea tray with cake and tea cups. This one was put out by the democratic committee and simply says “On nov. 3rd make sure the obstructionists stay out of the way”
I have to say I’m kind of enjoying the attention since NY is completely ignored during the general election.
p.s thanks AKM for the snail mail…my first smile of the day!
JC, lol…..tell us how you really feel. well said.
29 jc in co Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:14 AM
I think the only way to settle this is to have a debate between Newt and winky.
Newt wouldn’t let her get away with any crap like Joe Biden did either.
I don’t watch the “debates” the lack of ligit debate format makes me want to chew the carpet.
What they should have done is hold her time for her, as in, let the clock tick away while everybody just looks at her and waits for her to do something.
then you’ve got out takes kind of like Duuuuhbya on 9/11.
If I recall correctly, wasn’t she the one who bitterly complained about others (like the federal government) coming in and having ANY kind of influence in Alaska? After all, since they didn’t live there, they should mind their own business and leave Alaska to Alaskans who know better what they need than any ‘outsider’ possibly could.
So suddenly, it’s okay for HER to stick her nose into local NYS politics? So when did she move to NY State????????
Oh, sorry, I forgot. The rules are for everyone ELSE, not Miss Quittypants.
Note to self: Must buy stock in popcorn company…
Has anybody heard if McCain has weighed in on this? I would think it would be kinda hard to keep defending SP now.
I kind of wonder what Dick Armey was thinking when he decided to stick his nose into this campaign. It doesn’t seem like a good use of his time and effort. It would be a shame for it to be a waste.
Palin makes her money by allowing her name and face to used. She doesn’t have to write, attend debates about issues that she find controversal or listen to anyone. The biggest mistakes was allowing Palin to use her facebook for the serious issues that we are being faced with today. Info have to be verified and be investigated; that is part of a true journalist’s job. The supposedly person responsible is not known or seen. That person is not Palin. Palin’s name is receiving alot of recognition and free publicity.
She needs to be called out. No more facebook. She have something to say; she needs to be able to face the person and say it. I would never take an endorsement from a facebook or acknowledge a word such as death panel or allow a court statement regarding her support for the death panel to be done on a FACEBOOK.
We are allowing her name and invisible person to make decisions that are critical to ALL our lives. A four year old could be writing in the book!!
#59 laprof
ditto — going to have to check prices of Popcorn stock
Governor Palin is on to something very necessary for the Conservative Movement, and Newt is out to lunch.
Look where the GOP has come by catering to the Dem-Lite wing of the Party? Newt is a great speaker about the Constitution, but his smug moral pragmatism almost ALWAYS leads him to oppose consistent Conservatives when it’s critical! He hates Ron Paul, for example. When Paul won his current seat in the House, Speaker Gingrich spent about 1million in GOP Congressional funds to help a newly converted Clinton Democrat who had voted in the 90′s for the Clinton tax bill, and tried to stop Ron Paul.
Sarah Palin, on the other hand, for any of her supposedly “divisive” faults, has a fundamental loyalty to principle which can withstand the criticism of the inside-the-Beltway elite!
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swe123 keep us informed!
just one more notch in the craziesssssss
for me though we use the whirlpop for our corn
Sarah is being completely consistent with her past positions.
Remember, when she ran for VP, she had no problem with the Republican campaign operatives coming in and basically taking over the Governor’s office. She doesn’t mind that a bit, as long as it is her own party doing it.
As usual, it is not about policy, not about principle….it is only about Palin.
In case anyone was wondering the exact amount, according to this report, Bible Spice got $1.25M for her book
http://connpolitics.tv/index.php/2009/10/27/palin-receives-1-25m-for-book-retainer
@62 Claw – Today’s facebook note, written from a fake bball game, might be just the ticket to advance the calling out of Palin’s facebook game. I hope the fakiness of the game is verified and then gets widespread coverage.
well, lol, the New York Post didn’t hold back in their rather biased endorsement as a newspaper………sheesh.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/doug_hoffman_for_congress_21sqalnJNLjOEpD7JEOHaJ
“That’s because the Republican candidate in that race, Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, is the product of an obscenely corrupt political bargain by GOP bosses that sells out their party — and New Yorkers generally. “
Bwa-ha ha ha ha-Bwa-ha ha – love it .. love it
Newtie always thought $arah was sooo smart….LMAO
OT, huffpo now has the “levi to spill guts” tomorrow story. Comments aren’t moderated to much extent. Many links to bree, deceptions etc.
Let the slug-fest begin! No kidding about the popcorn, this will be quite entertaining to watch! Couldn’t be two worse people at odds with one another.
(Wow, is Jiffypop still around? It’s been a long time since I’ve seen that!)
And yes, thanks so much for the snail mail … had just received it and was so happy, then read this post and saw the jiffy pop! Awesome.
Say No To Palin In Politics says a New YorK Post in editorial supports Hoffman because they think DeDe Scozzafava in from the currupt political process.
The problem is that New York Post is owned by Murdoch!!
Newt is loathsome. But smart. $P is loathsome. But not smart. Let him tear into her, and her into him. I am looking into buying a popcorn franchise.
So, Newt warned of the 3rd party deal back april 4 of this year, at the very same College where Scarah quitty pants is going to speak in Dec. Do you think back in April is when she decided to seize the moment, made a decision to quit and go for a 3 party, her door to plow through? this endorsement is the first real push?
http://www.wowowow.com/politics/gingrich-warns-third-party-rise-2012-257110
“Republican Newt Gingrich, the former house speaker who has suddenly found himself in the spotlight again, warned this week that a third party could change the nation’s political game come 2012. Addressing students at the College of the Ozarks, Mr. Gingrich insisted the Republican Party’s right-wing status could pave the way for a new party’s ascension: “If the Republicans can’t break out of being the right-wing party of government, then I think you would see a third-party movement in 2012.” The government’s so “sick,” he said, that voters may launch an electoral revolution in the polls.”
I can’t believe McCain has gotten away with not weighing in on this. He must be hiding in the closet, pulling favors with reporters and staff and other repubs. “Save me.”
this is so good ….i’m so happy !!!! [movie my favorite year ]
70 ~jc…..couldn’t find the linc….
I passed McCain’s office on the bus today and flipped him a big fat juicy bird. Didn’t do anything to him, but I felt great!
Jiffy Pop indeed!
Remember when she lifted his speech a few months ago and he supported her and didn’t throw her under the bus???? Well, I bet he wishes now he did.
This is just getting better and better. Now that Joe the Bummer has become the ultimate traitor I can’t wait to hear what McCain has to say on ALL of this.
Lol!
P.S. AKM…Thank you! Love it!
Our own AKM gets mighty het up over some issues (and rightfully so!) but I’ve never known her {read her} to be anything less than absolutely manner-full in her comments. She has a way of putting the screws to someone in such a kind and polite way, that decorum is always maintained. (My Gran Scotland would’ve heartily approved of the consistently honorable tone of our own AKM. She, too, was a right Lady, my Gran.)
So, imagine my surprise when I finished reading the [above posted] article! And here’s why: Our own AKM concludes article’s text with: “I have only one thing to say about that.” Eagerly anticipating what it was our own AKM had to “say”, I saw on my rather-smallish screen what looked like a large, upside-down “U”. I was “yowza-ed”, to say the least!
“Good heavens,” [and I cleaned that up, you betcha] “AKM must really be ticked [cleaned that one up, too] that ol’ Newt is warning neo-cons of the dangers of a 3rd party to their agenda of getting rid of Pelosi et.al. And at him giving Ms. Quitty-Pants a ‘heads up’ that she’s walking on some mighty thin ice by going all rogue-y (or is it rouge-y?) on the GOP. AKM probably figures any and all gaffes from Her Sarahness are welcome…the more divisive the Wasilla Woman can be to the GOP, the better.”
Yup, that’s what I thought to myself; and I was giving AKM mad props for another great post about Ms. Word Salad’s shenanigans in politics (and life, in general) and for providing a waaaaaay out of the ordinary visual to emphasize those feelings.
And then I scrolled down…
…only to discover the large, upside-down “U” was the tip-end of a jiffy-pop popcorn handle…NOT, as I had assumed, the tip-end of a middle finger giving ol’ Newt the “one-finger salute” for pointing out to ex-Gov the obvious.
Yeah, just goes to prove, once more, the old adage about people who assume things… beth.
(Even though it wasn’t a middle finger tip, I’m sure Gran Scotland would’ve approved had it been. Even she, proper Lady that she was, recognized that some things just call for a one-finger salute. Things SP-related very frequently seem to be one of those things. Also, too. b.)