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	<description>Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics</description>
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		<title>By: Deep Blue</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/30/open-thread-the-present/#comment-143870</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so excited to see the photo of the final product. I did play a small part in it, in that I signed a couple of squares, and mailed mine back to Quince at the VERY last minute. She was so gracious and forgiving of my lateness, in addition to being enormously talented and patient.

I&#039;m not sure of all the details, but I do know Quince actually was the one who made many of the squares, in addition to conceiving the whole project, organizing it, and then putting the whole gorgeous thing together. 

QUINCE IS AMAZING!!!!

And so are you, AKM - so glad you love the quilt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so excited to see the photo of the final product. I did play a small part in it, in that I signed a couple of squares, and mailed mine back to Quince at the VERY last minute. She was so gracious and forgiving of my lateness, in addition to being enormously talented and patient.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure of all the details, but I do know Quince actually was the one who made many of the squares, in addition to conceiving the whole project, organizing it, and then putting the whole gorgeous thing together. </p>
<p>QUINCE IS AMAZING!!!!</p>
<p>And so are you, AKM &#8211; so glad you love the quilt!</p>
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		<title>By: aview999</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/30/open-thread-the-present/#comment-143867</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely gorgeous quilt! What makes it so special is all the details on it! Cant wait to see more squares!
You guys are so talented!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely gorgeous quilt! What makes it so special is all the details on it! Cant wait to see more squares!<br />
You guys are so talented!</p>
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		<title>By: Say No to Palin in Politics</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/30/open-thread-the-present/#comment-143861</link>
		<dc:creator>Say No to Palin in Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, listen to this........between Tank and Fagan. Fagan, I think is fleeced by how outrageous the possibility could be. I&#039;m not.


http://www.thealaskastandard.com/sites/default/files/media/Tank%20on%20Levi.mp3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, listen to this&#8230;&#8230;..between Tank and Fagan. Fagan, I think is fleeced by how outrageous the possibility could be. I&#8217;m not.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thealaskastandard.com/sites/default/files/media/Tank%20on%20Levi.mp3">http://www.thealaskastandard.com/sites/default/files/media/Tank%20on%20Levi.mp3</a></p>
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		<title>By: BooBooBear</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/30/open-thread-the-present/#comment-143860</link>
		<dc:creator>BooBooBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you to all the Mud Puppies who contributed to that fantastic quilt.  AKM.....you are loved by all of us!  ;0)  BooBooBear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to all the Mud Puppies who contributed to that fantastic quilt.  AKM&#8230;..you are loved by all of us!  ;0)  BooBooBear</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Beach</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/30/open-thread-the-present/#comment-143859</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy Beach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AKM, here&#039;s a good way to hang a quilt: Buy a set of those little metal clips designed to hang curtains from a rod. One end is a clip and the other end is a circle. Just clip 5 or 6 of them to the top of the quilt, spacing them evenly across the top. Then pound a set of small nails in the wall, spaced at the same intervals. Drop the circles over the nails and voila! Looks really nice and costs next to nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AKM, here&#8217;s a good way to hang a quilt: Buy a set of those little metal clips designed to hang curtains from a rod. One end is a clip and the other end is a circle. Just clip 5 or 6 of them to the top of the quilt, spacing them evenly across the top. Then pound a set of small nails in the wall, spaced at the same intervals. Drop the circles over the nails and voila! Looks really nice and costs next to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: mlaiuppa</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/30/open-thread-the-present/#comment-143854</link>
		<dc:creator>mlaiuppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I&#039;m a quilter and I had no idea a project like this was in the works. 

Well, I probably would have violated the rules anyway. I always seem to find a way to stretch the guidelines to the breaking point.

Really great quilt. 

I can&#039;t wait for the future installments of closeups of the other blocks and for the participants to reveal themselves. The stories behind the quilt blocks are part of the special magic of quilt projects like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#8217;m a quilter and I had no idea a project like this was in the works. </p>
<p>Well, I probably would have violated the rules anyway. I always seem to find a way to stretch the guidelines to the breaking point.</p>
<p>Really great quilt. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the future installments of closeups of the other blocks and for the participants to reveal themselves. The stories behind the quilt blocks are part of the special magic of quilt projects like this.</p>
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		<title>By: GreatGranny2C</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreatGranny2C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jojobo1 @122 - 

I&#039;ve started reading Schaeffer&#039;s book also.  It is amazing how people change so radically over a period of time.  As you mentioned of his parents accepting and trying to work with others, it seemed to be the thing to do for some religious groups in the 60s and 70s, then suddenly they reversed direction and one wonder&#039;s why - is it the inate weakness in some that they simply follow the crowd?

It&#039;s funny that the Wisconsin group has already taken their site down - maybe they didn&#039;t realize they were actually ENCOURAGING people to show up in opposition.

As for Bristol being under her mother&#039;s thumb, we see that far too often when the parent is a strong and intimidating person.  If Bristol was to try to make it on her own, she probably wouldn&#039;t have the comfortable lifestyle she currently has.  As to income for either Levi or Bristol, one would hope they are banking some of the money and setting up some sort of fund for their son.  So many of those new to celebrity and money p-ss it away as fast as it comes in and they have nothing for a rainy day.  

Bristol is still young and possibly a bit immature.  Age and motherhood has nothing to do with emotional development and she seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place.  

That is certainly one disfunctional family! Sarah is such a selfish person, she hasn&#039;t a clue the damage she is doing to her entire family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jojobo1 @122 &#8211; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve started reading Schaeffer&#8217;s book also.  It is amazing how people change so radically over a period of time.  As you mentioned of his parents accepting and trying to work with others, it seemed to be the thing to do for some religious groups in the 60s and 70s, then suddenly they reversed direction and one wonder&#8217;s why &#8211; is it the inate weakness in some that they simply follow the crowd?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that the Wisconsin group has already taken their site down &#8211; maybe they didn&#8217;t realize they were actually ENCOURAGING people to show up in opposition.</p>
<p>As for Bristol being under her mother&#8217;s thumb, we see that far too often when the parent is a strong and intimidating person.  If Bristol was to try to make it on her own, she probably wouldn&#8217;t have the comfortable lifestyle she currently has.  As to income for either Levi or Bristol, one would hope they are banking some of the money and setting up some sort of fund for their son.  So many of those new to celebrity and money p-ss it away as fast as it comes in and they have nothing for a rainy day.  </p>
<p>Bristol is still young and possibly a bit immature.  Age and motherhood has nothing to do with emotional development and she seems to be stuck between a rock and a hard place.  </p>
<p>That is certainly one disfunctional family! Sarah is such a selfish person, she hasn&#8217;t a clue the damage she is doing to her entire family.</p>
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		<title>By: jojobo1</title>
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		<dc:creator>jojobo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know I guess I had hopes that Bristol would see the light and get out from under,but I guess not.I would think the most would be child support but even if a father does not pay you cannot legally stop them from seeing their child just because of that.At least not in my state.Since they were never married alimony is a moot point and if Bristol is making just as much as Levi they take that into consideration.One thing it would do is stop her from moving out of state on  a whim or her mothers say so.I feel sorry for the young man having to put up with not only the palins but the heaths also.I think if left alone Bristol would let him see the child .I think her mother is pushing her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know I guess I had hopes that Bristol would see the light and get out from under,but I guess not.I would think the most would be child support but even if a father does not pay you cannot legally stop them from seeing their child just because of that.At least not in my state.Since they were never married alimony is a moot point and if Bristol is making just as much as Levi they take that into consideration.One thing it would do is stop her from moving out of state on  a whim or her mothers say so.I feel sorry for the young man having to put up with not only the palins but the heaths also.I think if left alone Bristol would let him see the child .I think her mother is pushing her.</p>
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		<title>By: the norwegian blue</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/10/30/open-thread-the-present/#comment-143851</link>
		<dc:creator>the norwegian blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the quilt is heartwarming!

So is this analysis over at 538 on $P&#039;s chances for 2012
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/palin-will-not-run-for-president-in-12.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the quilt is heartwarming!</p>
<p>So is this analysis over at 538 on $P&#8217;s chances for 2012<br />
<a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/palin-will-not-run-for-president-in-12.html">http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/palin-will-not-run-for-president-in-12.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jojobo1</title>
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		<dc:creator>jojobo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GreatGranny2C  I have been reading a book by Frank Schaeffer,crazy for God.He talks about his preacher mom and dad and  how they took in hippies, gay people ect and were very accepting of them back then and Pat Roberson is mentioned as visiting their place many times and staying for long periods of time,so what in the world is he complaining about.
As for the palin thing in Milwaukee,if someone had commented it is already down and if I did not already have breathing problems I would be out there with them.Maybe they are just trying to get people to come by saying that.sounds like a begathon because they don&#039;t have enough people.Southeaster WI is not really a good area for this kind of thing.Maybe middle WI. might be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreatGranny2C  I have been reading a book by Frank Schaeffer,crazy for God.He talks about his preacher mom and dad and  how they took in hippies, gay people ect and were very accepting of them back then and Pat Roberson is mentioned as visiting their place many times and staying for long periods of time,so what in the world is he complaining about.<br />
As for the palin thing in Milwaukee,if someone had commented it is already down and if I did not already have breathing problems I would be out there with them.Maybe they are just trying to get people to come by saying that.sounds like a begathon because they don&#8217;t have enough people.Southeaster WI is not really a good area for this kind of thing.Maybe middle WI. might be</p>
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