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		<title>By: CG</title>
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		<description>It almost seems blasphemous to post anything that mars the beautiful awesome quilt moment...but it is an open thread.

Good news, kids. &lt;i&gt;Possibly&lt;/i&gt; we might have a glimmer of understanding about the business name &quot;Pie Spy&quot;. Maybe.

It appears that it&#039;s all about the metaphorical references to pie/American Pie/gettin&#039; our piece of the pie, etc., from the McCain campaign trail.

First - an excerpt from an Oct 2008 Huffington Post piece by Leo W. Gerard, President of the United Steelworkers International: &lt;b&gt;When It Comes to Slicing the American Pie, McCain Serves Only the Rich&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Though McCain and Palin clearly don&#039;t understand, it&#039;s time for everyday Americans to share in the American pie. At a rally in Florida this week, Obama talked about how the policies of the Bush administration have shrunk the pie and permitted the wealthy to grab the few remaining crumbs. He told he crowd he has no desire to reapportion the pie, as McCain keeps accusing him wanting to do -- as a Socialist, you know. Also, Obama objects to the McCain-Palin policy of continuing to feed the rich all of the crumbs, which is particularly evident in the GOP tax plan. 

Obama told the group that his goal is to expand the pie to ensure that all Americans get a piece. The crowd responded with a spontaneous chant of, &quot;We want pie!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Then, there&#039;s a Free Republic post also in Oct 08 with a bunch of interesting but stupid responses:
(This is meant to be a transcript of McCain&#039;s speech; I have no idea if this is really what he said. The responses posted are verbatim.) 

&lt;b&gt;The Pie We Need&lt;/b&gt; (McCain&#039;s Closing Argument)
10/30/2008 &#124; freedomfighter1013 
&lt;i&gt;Several months ago, my opponent was talking about pie. Apparently he likes pie very much because in one speech he mentioned it something like 25 times in the space of a minute and a half. It&#039;s taken me some time, but I think he really hit on the perfect metaphor for the difference in our two approaches towards the economy. Senator Obama and the Democrats believe there is only one pie and that the pie is fixed and the only way to give someone some pie is to take it away from someone else. 

I think that&#039;s a waste of time. When you do that, you start arguing about who&#039;s got a bigger slice. You raise it up in the air and look at it from different angles. You waste so much time and effort on weighing and measuring, the pie gets stale while some accountant figures out how much pie each of us should have. 

I like pie too, but my approach is different. I think we should bake more pies. 

But in order to bake more pies, you have to have an environment conducive to the baking of pies. You can&#039;t have bean counters and bureaucrats in the middle of the kitchen measuring slices and arguing over crumbs, they have to get out of the way so mom can bake more pies. 

You&#039;ve got to have a tax system that enables farmers to grow more apples and mill more flour. You have to be able to hire workers to harvest the apples, or send you boys out to pick some themselves. And someone&#039;s got to have gas in the car to bring the apples home. 

And mom needs help to roll out the dough and cook the apples and fill the shells. And, you need cheap electricity from a nuclear plant or natural gas from the north slope of Alaska to heat the oven. And, when mom makes too many pies for the house, you need to bring them to your neighbors or put up some signs telling everyone that you have extra pies, so you need electricity to design and print your flyers and people need sneakers to run to your house to buy your excess pies. And, you know what, the more pies she makes, the cheaper each pie becomes, so more people can afford her pies. It&#039;s just a fact. 

My point is, the idea that the pie is fixed is a fallacy. But that fallacy lies at the heart of my opponent&#039;s world view. 

Let&#039;s not argue over who gets what crumb, let&#039;s bake more pies so everyone can have some. That&#039;s my approach, that&#039;s why you should vote for me, because I believe we should bake more pies. 

That&#039;s why I want your vote, so we can all have more pie.&lt;/i&gt; 


October 30, 2008 8:51:16 AM by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.) 
&lt;i&gt;Mmmmmm... pie.&lt;/i&gt;

8:51:57 AM by GulfBreeze (McCain/Palin 08 (It&#039;s about CREATING wealth, stupid! Not spreading it.)) 
&lt;i&gt;I love that. And that about sums up the difference between the two of them.
McCain/Palin/Piemakers ‘08&lt;/i&gt;

9:10:13 AM by ladyvet 
&lt;i&gt;You&#039;ve got to have a tax system that enables farmers to grow more apples 
But I want Key Lime pie!&lt;/i&gt; 

9:52:02 AM by Salamander 
&lt;i&gt;There is a commandment against coveting things which belong to our neighbors. Instead of wanting what our neighbors have, we should do what we can to get our own stuff.
That’s how the government can assist — by keeping our American freedoms and liberties intact, so that we have the OPPORTUNITY to make more pies.&lt;/i&gt;

9:59:35 AM by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months) 
&lt;i&gt;Good article. Barack Obama, however, has made me hate pie. And, you know, if he gets into office and gives everyone free pie, they’ll only start clamoring for free brownies too, because pie won’t be enough anymore.&lt;/i&gt;

10:04:39 AM by MrB (0bama supporters: What&#039;s the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?) 
&lt;i&gt;And the chants of the audiences sums up the difference in the supporters’ ideologies:
“USA! USA! USA!”
vs
“WE WANT PIE! WE WANT PIE! WE WANT PIE!”&lt;/i&gt;

What does this mean? Sarah is the &lt;b&gt;Pie Spy&lt;/b&gt;. 

&quot;The Pie&quot;, &quot;Other People&#039;s Money&quot; - some of you will recognize this stuff as pure Amway Speak, straight out of Amway motivational tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It almost seems blasphemous to post anything that mars the beautiful awesome quilt moment&#8230;but it is an open thread.</p>
<p>Good news, kids. <i>Possibly</i> we might have a glimmer of understanding about the business name &#8220;Pie Spy&#8221;. Maybe.</p>
<p>It appears that it&#8217;s all about the metaphorical references to pie/American Pie/gettin&#8217; our piece of the pie, etc., from the McCain campaign trail.</p>
<p>First &#8211; an excerpt from an Oct 2008 Huffington Post piece by Leo W. Gerard, President of the United Steelworkers International: <b>When It Comes to Slicing the American Pie, McCain Serves Only the Rich</b></p>
<p><i>Though McCain and Palin clearly don&#8217;t understand, it&#8217;s time for everyday Americans to share in the American pie. At a rally in Florida this week, Obama talked about how the policies of the Bush administration have shrunk the pie and permitted the wealthy to grab the few remaining crumbs. He told he crowd he has no desire to reapportion the pie, as McCain keeps accusing him wanting to do &#8212; as a Socialist, you know. Also, Obama objects to the McCain-Palin policy of continuing to feed the rich all of the crumbs, which is particularly evident in the GOP tax plan. </p>
<p>Obama told the group that his goal is to expand the pie to ensure that all Americans get a piece. The crowd responded with a spontaneous chant of, &#8220;We want pie!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Then, there&#8217;s a Free Republic post also in Oct 08 with a bunch of interesting but stupid responses:<br />
(This is meant to be a transcript of McCain&#8217;s speech; I have no idea if this is really what he said. The responses posted are verbatim.) </p>
<p><b>The Pie We Need</b> (McCain&#8217;s Closing Argument)<br />
10/30/2008 | freedomfighter1013<br />
<i>Several months ago, my opponent was talking about pie. Apparently he likes pie very much because in one speech he mentioned it something like 25 times in the space of a minute and a half. It&#8217;s taken me some time, but I think he really hit on the perfect metaphor for the difference in our two approaches towards the economy. Senator Obama and the Democrats believe there is only one pie and that the pie is fixed and the only way to give someone some pie is to take it away from someone else. </p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a waste of time. When you do that, you start arguing about who&#8217;s got a bigger slice. You raise it up in the air and look at it from different angles. You waste so much time and effort on weighing and measuring, the pie gets stale while some accountant figures out how much pie each of us should have. </p>
<p>I like pie too, but my approach is different. I think we should bake more pies. </p>
<p>But in order to bake more pies, you have to have an environment conducive to the baking of pies. You can&#8217;t have bean counters and bureaucrats in the middle of the kitchen measuring slices and arguing over crumbs, they have to get out of the way so mom can bake more pies. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got to have a tax system that enables farmers to grow more apples and mill more flour. You have to be able to hire workers to harvest the apples, or send you boys out to pick some themselves. And someone&#8217;s got to have gas in the car to bring the apples home. </p>
<p>And mom needs help to roll out the dough and cook the apples and fill the shells. And, you need cheap electricity from a nuclear plant or natural gas from the north slope of Alaska to heat the oven. And, when mom makes too many pies for the house, you need to bring them to your neighbors or put up some signs telling everyone that you have extra pies, so you need electricity to design and print your flyers and people need sneakers to run to your house to buy your excess pies. And, you know what, the more pies she makes, the cheaper each pie becomes, so more people can afford her pies. It&#8217;s just a fact. </p>
<p>My point is, the idea that the pie is fixed is a fallacy. But that fallacy lies at the heart of my opponent&#8217;s world view. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not argue over who gets what crumb, let&#8217;s bake more pies so everyone can have some. That&#8217;s my approach, that&#8217;s why you should vote for me, because I believe we should bake more pies. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I want your vote, so we can all have more pie.</i> </p>
<p>October 30, 2008 8:51:16 AM by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)<br />
<i>Mmmmmm&#8230; pie.</i></p>
<p>8:51:57 AM by GulfBreeze (McCain/Palin 08 (It&#8217;s about CREATING wealth, stupid! Not spreading it.))<br />
<i>I love that. And that about sums up the difference between the two of them.<br />
McCain/Palin/Piemakers ‘08</i></p>
<p>9:10:13 AM by ladyvet<br />
<i>You&#8217;ve got to have a tax system that enables farmers to grow more apples<br />
But I want Key Lime pie!</i> </p>
<p>9:52:02 AM by Salamander<br />
<i>There is a commandment against coveting things which belong to our neighbors. Instead of wanting what our neighbors have, we should do what we can to get our own stuff.<br />
That’s how the government can assist — by keeping our American freedoms and liberties intact, so that we have the OPPORTUNITY to make more pies.</i></p>
<p>9:59:35 AM by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)<br />
<i>Good article. Barack Obama, however, has made me hate pie. And, you know, if he gets into office and gives everyone free pie, they’ll only start clamoring for free brownies too, because pie won’t be enough anymore.</i></p>
<p>10:04:39 AM by MrB (0bama supporters: What&#8217;s the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)<br />
<i>And the chants of the audiences sums up the difference in the supporters’ ideologies:<br />
“USA! USA! USA!”<br />
vs<br />
“WE WANT PIE! WE WANT PIE! WE WANT PIE!”</i></p>
<p>What does this mean? Sarah is the <b>Pie Spy</b>. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Pie&#8221;, &#8220;Other People&#8217;s Money&#8221; &#8211; some of you will recognize this stuff as pure Amway Speak, straight out of Amway motivational tools.</p>
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		<title>By: AKPetMom</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that Peggy Noonan piece but she could have saved herself a whole lot of typin&#039; and stuff if she just would have spit it out in the first sentence:

Palin is a boob that doesn&#039;t realize she&#039;s dumb.

Noonan was trying to be wayyyy to nice about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that Peggy Noonan piece but she could have saved herself a whole lot of typin&#8217; and stuff if she just would have spit it out in the first sentence:</p>
<p>Palin is a boob that doesn&#8217;t realize she&#8217;s dumb.</p>
<p>Noonan was trying to be wayyyy to nice about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Seagull Junker Palin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seagull Junker Palin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gag, I missed the FB post yesterday.</description>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50 Martha Says: 
November 1st, 2009 at 3:31 PM 
Palin’s touch of death remains intact, as the republican she railed against, dropped out of the race only to endorse the democrat….lol:

Sunday, November 01, 2009
Dede Scozzafava endorses Democrat challenger in New York race.
State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R), who dropped from the special election in Upstate New York yesterday, has now thrown her support to Democrat Bill Owens.

“It’s not in the cards for me to be your representative, but I strongly believe Bill is the only candidate who can build upon John McHugh’s lasting legacy in the U.S. Congress,” said Scozzafava in a statement released moments ago.&quot;
-----------------------------------------
This endorsement by Dede Scozzafava coming on the heels of Palin&#039;s patronizingly magnanimous comment on her Fakebook yesterday that she &quot;personally&quot; wants to thank Scozzafava for being so &quot;selfless&quot; in dropping out of the race.....

The narcissistic implication of Palin&#039;s statement is that Scozzafava was bowing out in deference to Palin&#039;s superior moral and political judgment in endorsing Dede&#039;s rival. Palin is such an unlettered and politically naive jackass. 

Hope Palin enjoyed that big slap across her face as much as I did......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50 Martha Says:<br />
November 1st, 2009 at 3:31 PM<br />
Palin’s touch of death remains intact, as the republican she railed against, dropped out of the race only to endorse the democrat….lol:</p>
<p>Sunday, November 01, 2009<br />
Dede Scozzafava endorses Democrat challenger in New York race.<br />
State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R), who dropped from the special election in Upstate New York yesterday, has now thrown her support to Democrat Bill Owens.</p>
<p>“It’s not in the cards for me to be your representative, but I strongly believe Bill is the only candidate who can build upon John McHugh’s lasting legacy in the U.S. Congress,” said Scozzafava in a statement released moments ago.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
This endorsement by Dede Scozzafava coming on the heels of Palin&#8217;s patronizingly magnanimous comment on her Fakebook yesterday that she &#8220;personally&#8221; wants to thank Scozzafava for being so &#8220;selfless&#8221; in dropping out of the race&#8230;..</p>
<p>The narcissistic implication of Palin&#8217;s statement is that Scozzafava was bowing out in deference to Palin&#8217;s superior moral and political judgment in endorsing Dede&#8217;s rival. Palin is such an unlettered and politically naive jackass. </p>
<p>Hope Palin enjoyed that big slap across her face as much as I did&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>51	 Seagull Junker Palin Says: 
Palin blows it again. 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Keeping in mind that this was long before she quit as Gov., believe the following opinion still stands:

By Peggy Noonan- Conservative writer and columnist for WSJ

In television interviews she was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. She couldn’t say what she read because she didn’t read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn’t thoughtful enough to know she wasn’t thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. “I’m not wired that way,” “I’m not a quitter,” “I’m standing up for our values.” I’m, I’m, I’m.


Sarah is a Disgrace
In another age it might not have been terrible, but here and now it was actually rather horrifying.

What she is, is a seemingly very nice middle-class girl with ambition, appetite and no sense of personal limits.

“She’s not Ivy League, that’s why her rise has been thwarted! She represented the democratic ideal that you don’t have to go to Harvard or Brown to prosper, and her fall represents a failure of egalitarianism.” This comes from intellectuals too. They need to be told something. Ronald Reagan went to Eureka College. Richard Nixon went to Whittier College, Joe Biden to the University of Delaware. Sarah Palin graduated in the end from the University of Idaho, a school that happily notes on its Web site that it’s included in U.S. News and World Report’s top national schools survey. They need to be told, too, that the first Republican president was named “Abe,” and he went to Princeton and got a Fulbright. Oh wait, he was an impoverished backwoods autodidact!

America doesn’t need Sarah Palin to prove it was, and is, a nation of unprecedented fluidity. Her rise and seeming fall do nothing to prove or refute this.

“Now she can prepare herself for higher office by studying up, reading in, boning up on the issues.” Mrs. Palin’s supporters have been ordering her to spend the next two years reflecting and pondering. But she is a ponder-free zone. She can memorize the names of the presidents of Pakistan, but she is not going to be able to know how to think about Pakistan. Why do her supporters not see this? Maybe they think “not thoughtful” is a working-class trope!

“The media did her in.” Her incompetence or lack of any appropriate modesty did her in. Actually, it’s arguable that membership in the self-esteem generation harmed her. For 30 years the self-esteem movement told the young they’re perfect in every way. It’s yielding something new in history: an entire generation with no proper sense of inadequacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>51	 Seagull Junker Palin Says:<br />
Palin blows it again.<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />
Keeping in mind that this was long before she quit as Gov., believe the following opinion still stands:</p>
<p>By Peggy Noonan- Conservative writer and columnist for WSJ</p>
<p>In television interviews she was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. She couldn’t say what she read because she didn’t read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn’t thoughtful enough to know she wasn’t thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. “I’m not wired that way,” “I’m not a quitter,” “I’m standing up for our values.” I’m, I’m, I’m.</p>
<p>Sarah is a Disgrace<br />
In another age it might not have been terrible, but here and now it was actually rather horrifying.</p>
<p>What she is, is a seemingly very nice middle-class girl with ambition, appetite and no sense of personal limits.</p>
<p>“She’s not Ivy League, that’s why her rise has been thwarted! She represented the democratic ideal that you don’t have to go to Harvard or Brown to prosper, and her fall represents a failure of egalitarianism.” This comes from intellectuals too. They need to be told something. Ronald Reagan went to Eureka College. Richard Nixon went to Whittier College, Joe Biden to the University of Delaware. Sarah Palin graduated in the end from the University of Idaho, a school that happily notes on its Web site that it’s included in U.S. News and World Report’s top national schools survey. They need to be told, too, that the first Republican president was named “Abe,” and he went to Princeton and got a Fulbright. Oh wait, he was an impoverished backwoods autodidact!</p>
<p>America doesn’t need Sarah Palin to prove it was, and is, a nation of unprecedented fluidity. Her rise and seeming fall do nothing to prove or refute this.</p>
<p>“Now she can prepare herself for higher office by studying up, reading in, boning up on the issues.” Mrs. Palin’s supporters have been ordering her to spend the next two years reflecting and pondering. But she is a ponder-free zone. She can memorize the names of the presidents of Pakistan, but she is not going to be able to know how to think about Pakistan. Why do her supporters not see this? Maybe they think “not thoughtful” is a working-class trope!</p>
<p>“The media did her in.” Her incompetence or lack of any appropriate modesty did her in. Actually, it’s arguable that membership in the self-esteem generation harmed her. For 30 years the self-esteem movement told the young they’re perfect in every way. It’s yielding something new in history: an entire generation with no proper sense of inadequacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Claw Washout Palin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alaskan Librarian

Abortion Provisions in House Health Bill
Posted on November 1, 2009 by alaskanlibrarian 
The US House has released HR 3962, its final version of a health care reform bill.

&quot;Despite what you may hear in the anti-reform press and blogosphere, this bill will not force abortions or abortion coverage on anyone. It won’t preempt existing state restrictions on abortion. In fact, there are explicit protections in the bill to prevent this. Here are the relevant provisions&quot;

http://alaskanlibrarian.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/abortion-provisions-in-house-health-bill/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alaskan Librarian</p>
<p>Abortion Provisions in House Health Bill<br />
Posted on November 1, 2009 by alaskanlibrarian<br />
The US House has released HR 3962, its final version of a health care reform bill.</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite what you may hear in the anti-reform press and blogosphere, this bill will not force abortions or abortion coverage on anyone. It won’t preempt existing state restrictions on abortion. In fact, there are explicit protections in the bill to prevent this. Here are the relevant provisions&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://alaskanlibrarian.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/abortion-provisions-in-house-health-bill/">http://alaskanlibrarian.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/abortion-provisions-in-house-health-bill/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seagull Junker Palin</title>
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		<description>Palin blows it again.  She posts on FB in response to an accusation from Daggett of NJ that she did not suggest he drop out of the race with this:

&quot;Despite what candidate Chris Daggett is claiming, I have never contacted him or his campaign. I have never asked him to drop out of the NJ Governor&#039;s race. Now, if a politician is going to play loose with facts like this, the electorate needs to know it.

So, to the good people of New Jersey, please know that Daggett&#039;s claims are false. I&#039;ve never even suggested he should drop out of the race. But, come to think of it...

- Sarah Palin

via talking points memo

THEN, if you go to the website that she used to &quot;find&quot; the Daggett claim, here&#039;s what&#039;s posted there now:

UPDATE FOR ALL THE PALIN SUPPORTERS

Chris Daggett is not affiliated with this blog. Sarah Palin needs to get her facts straight, when she links to this blog to provide evidence that Chris Daggett is lying about her. I am an independent blogger that is fed up with the corruption and the politics as usual in New Jersey. If Sarah Palin really is an advocate for the people, she should have done her research on the candidate she is endorsing. That same reason that she is endorsing Hoffman, ending politics as usual, are the same reasons she should not endorse Chris Christie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin blows it again.  She posts on FB in response to an accusation from Daggett of NJ that she did not suggest he drop out of the race with this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite what candidate Chris Daggett is claiming, I have never contacted him or his campaign. I have never asked him to drop out of the NJ Governor&#8217;s race. Now, if a politician is going to play loose with facts like this, the electorate needs to know it.</p>
<p>So, to the good people of New Jersey, please know that Daggett&#8217;s claims are false. I&#8217;ve never even suggested he should drop out of the race. But, come to think of it&#8230;</p>
<p>- Sarah Palin</p>
<p>via talking points memo</p>
<p>THEN, if you go to the website that she used to &#8220;find&#8221; the Daggett claim, here&#8217;s what&#8217;s posted there now:</p>
<p>UPDATE FOR ALL THE PALIN SUPPORTERS</p>
<p>Chris Daggett is not affiliated with this blog. Sarah Palin needs to get her facts straight, when she links to this blog to provide evidence that Chris Daggett is lying about her. I am an independent blogger that is fed up with the corruption and the politics as usual in New Jersey. If Sarah Palin really is an advocate for the people, she should have done her research on the candidate she is endorsing. That same reason that she is endorsing Hoffman, ending politics as usual, are the same reasons she should not endorse Chris Christie.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin&#039;s touch of death remains intact, as the republican she railed against, dropped out of the race only to endorse the democrat....lol:


Sunday, November 01, 2009
Dede Scozzafava endorses Democrat challenger in New York race.
State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R), who dropped from the special election in Upstate New York yesterday, has now thrown her support to Democrat Bill Owens.

&quot;It&#039;s not in the cards for me to be your representative, but I strongly believe Bill is the only candidate who can build upon John McHugh&#039;s lasting legacy in the U.S. Congress,&quot; said Scozzafava in a statement released moments ago.

Well THIS is an interesting new wrinkle.

Now the only question remaining is do the New York Republicans dislike the Democrats MORE, or LESS, than the crazed Teabaggers that have hijacked their party?

This could be the most important vote for NY Republicans in the whole 150 years that they have voted in this district. This could well set a precedent for the many races to come in 2010.

Update: If you have not yet read election prognosticator extraordinaire Nate Silver&#039;s take on this race than I suggest that you do.

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin&#8217;s touch of death remains intact, as the republican she railed against, dropped out of the race only to endorse the democrat&#8230;.lol:</p>
<p>Sunday, November 01, 2009<br />
Dede Scozzafava endorses Democrat challenger in New York race.<br />
State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R), who dropped from the special election in Upstate New York yesterday, has now thrown her support to Democrat Bill Owens.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not in the cards for me to be your representative, but I strongly believe Bill is the only candidate who can build upon John McHugh&#8217;s lasting legacy in the U.S. Congress,&#8221; said Scozzafava in a statement released moments ago.</p>
<p>Well THIS is an interesting new wrinkle.</p>
<p>Now the only question remaining is do the New York Republicans dislike the Democrats MORE, or LESS, than the crazed Teabaggers that have hijacked their party?</p>
<p>This could be the most important vote for NY Republicans in the whole 150 years that they have voted in this district. This could well set a precedent for the many races to come in 2010.</p>
<p>Update: If you have not yet read election prognosticator extraordinaire Nate Silver&#8217;s take on this race than I suggest that you do.</p>
<p><a href="http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/">http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: pearl89</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/01/open-thread-the-quilt-part-ii/#comment-144271</link>
		<dc:creator>pearl89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a copy of the lyrics from Levi Johnston&#039;s blues:

http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/Board/index.php?topic=5773.msg82074</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a copy of the lyrics from Levi Johnston&#8217;s blues:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/Board/index.php?topic=5773.msg82074">http://www.thesuburbs.org.uk/Board/index.php?topic=5773.msg82074</a></p>
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		<title>By: pearl89</title>
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		<dc:creator>pearl89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levi Johnston&#039;s Blues sung by Ben Folds and written by Nick Hornby.  And I would like to point out, Ben is from NC.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/09/ben-folds-nick-hornby-pre_n_315950.html

The quilt is so gorgeous and so amazing. It appears that every time you look at it, you see something didn&#039;t notice the first time. I am sure given the love with which this quilt was stitched, it will keep you warm in heart for a long time to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi Johnston&#8217;s Blues sung by Ben Folds and written by Nick Hornby.  And I would like to point out, Ben is from NC.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/09/ben-folds-nick-hornby-pre_n_315950.html">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/09/ben-folds-nick-hornby-pre_n_315950.html</a></p>
<p>The quilt is so gorgeous and so amazing. It appears that every time you look at it, you see something didn&#8217;t notice the first time. I am sure given the love with which this quilt was stitched, it will keep you warm in heart for a long time to come.</p>
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