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		<title>By: Ladybirddeb</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-148376</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladybirddeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing to watch, but not so much a flock of birds as a swarm of locusts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing to watch, but not so much a flock of birds as a swarm of locusts.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-148174</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good you weren&#039;t sitting &#039;under&#039; that flock. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good you weren&#8217;t sitting &#8216;under&#8217; that flock. <img src='http://www.themudflats.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stan Malcolm</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-148069</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Malcolm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding on to GreatGranny2C&#039;s recollection of the starling eradication program at Fort Campbell, KY: I was in the Preventive Medicine unit at Fort Knox at the time.  We had a similar problem with starlings but thankfully, I opted not to attempt controlling them.  In that part of the country, starlings roost communally in the winter, usually in hemlock thickets.  Each morning they head out to forage in corn fields over a wide range.  They head out (and return) together in an aerial column hundreds of yards wide and stretching from horizon to horizon, taking as much as 15 minutes to pass by.  Eight or ten million birds to a roost was a common estimate.

Besides the danger to aviation, starlings also pass the spores of Histoplasmosis in their droppings.  The fungus infects the soil under their roosts and after percolating for a year or two, dust from the soil passes the disease to humans.  At Fort Knox, the starling roost was on the bridal path and so there was some concern about dust stirred up by horses.  However, Histoplasmosis is endemic in the area; virtually everyone tested has a titre.  Most may have hardly noticed a flu-like illness when they were infected; only rarely was the infection a serious health issue.  So, I didn&#039;t try bird control.  In the spring, the flocks disperse naturally.

My colleague at Fort Campbell either had a bigger problem or pressure from above to act.  His first attempt to kill the birds was a disaster.  The technique is to wait for a cold night and spray the birds in their roost with a mixture of water and detergent.  The idea is that the birds&#039; feathers lose their water repellancy and they freeze to death.  Long story short, the night wasn&#039;t cold enough and the birds meerly got a bath.  It would have been a good idea to give up, but he tried again.  &quot;Success&quot; this time and millions of birds died.  The next morning, the Louisville paper had a front page photo of a starling coated in ice and frozen in place perched on a branch.  It was the most pathetic looking bird you can imagine; heartwrenching - which is a pretty good trick for an invasive species with so much not to like about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding on to GreatGranny2C&#8217;s recollection of the starling eradication program at Fort Campbell, KY: I was in the Preventive Medicine unit at Fort Knox at the time.  We had a similar problem with starlings but thankfully, I opted not to attempt controlling them.  In that part of the country, starlings roost communally in the winter, usually in hemlock thickets.  Each morning they head out to forage in corn fields over a wide range.  They head out (and return) together in an aerial column hundreds of yards wide and stretching from horizon to horizon, taking as much as 15 minutes to pass by.  Eight or ten million birds to a roost was a common estimate.</p>
<p>Besides the danger to aviation, starlings also pass the spores of Histoplasmosis in their droppings.  The fungus infects the soil under their roosts and after percolating for a year or two, dust from the soil passes the disease to humans.  At Fort Knox, the starling roost was on the bridal path and so there was some concern about dust stirred up by horses.  However, Histoplasmosis is endemic in the area; virtually everyone tested has a titre.  Most may have hardly noticed a flu-like illness when they were infected; only rarely was the infection a serious health issue.  So, I didn&#8217;t try bird control.  In the spring, the flocks disperse naturally.</p>
<p>My colleague at Fort Campbell either had a bigger problem or pressure from above to act.  His first attempt to kill the birds was a disaster.  The technique is to wait for a cold night and spray the birds in their roost with a mixture of water and detergent.  The idea is that the birds&#8217; feathers lose their water repellancy and they freeze to death.  Long story short, the night wasn&#8217;t cold enough and the birds meerly got a bath.  It would have been a good idea to give up, but he tried again.  &#8220;Success&#8221; this time and millions of birds died.  The next morning, the Louisville paper had a front page photo of a starling coated in ice and frozen in place perched on a branch.  It was the most pathetic looking bird you can imagine; heartwrenching &#8211; which is a pretty good trick for an invasive species with so much not to like about it.</p>
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		<title>By: WakeUpAmerica</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-148039</link>
		<dc:creator>WakeUpAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  It&#039;s like watching a dynamic Rohrsach.  Wait!  I see something holy in there!  Why it&#039;s Sarah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  It&#8217;s like watching a dynamic Rohrsach.  Wait!  I see something holy in there!  Why it&#8217;s Sarah!</p>
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		<title>By: ChiCat</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-147904</link>
		<dc:creator>ChiCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marnie, you are right, I would have been totally freaked out to see that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marnie, you are right, I would have been totally freaked out to see that!</p>
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		<title>By: jammer5</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-147890</link>
		<dc:creator>jammer5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We get the same thing here in Kansas. I never get tired of watching the flocks sometimes blocking out the sun. The first time my mother saw them, she thought it was a tornado. Just an awe inspiring site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We get the same thing here in Kansas. I never get tired of watching the flocks sometimes blocking out the sun. The first time my mother saw them, she thought it was a tornado. Just an awe inspiring site.</p>
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		<title>By: Juneaudream</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-147872</link>
		<dc:creator>Juneaudream</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My feeling about the &#039;how&#039;..for them..and other birds in formations..it must create a &#039;feel&#039;..and a &#039;thrumming&#039; vibration..so that the receptors within..each bird..just automatically..engage at a certain distance..and..awayyy they go...each cocooned..so to speak..by &#039;informative vibration&#039; so that there is not a need to &#039;think&#039;..it just..adjusts..perhpas a certain airflow is created..which also..compartmentalises them..within the energy field they create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My feeling about the &#8216;how&#8217;..for them..and other birds in formations..it must create a &#8216;feel&#8217;..and a &#8216;thrumming&#8217; vibration..so that the receptors within..each bird..just automatically..engage at a certain distance..and..awayyy they go&#8230;each cocooned..so to speak..by &#8216;informative vibration&#8217; so that there is not a need to &#8216;think&#8217;..it just..adjusts..perhpas a certain airflow is created..which also..compartmentalises them..within the energy field they create.</p>
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		<title>By: CorningNY</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-147863</link>
		<dc:creator>CorningNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From all the comments, they sound like a real pest species, but it still amazes me that hundreds of thousands of birds can fly around like that and not fly into each other.  How do they do that?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From all the comments, they sound like a real pest species, but it still amazes me that hundreds of thousands of birds can fly around like that and not fly into each other.  How do they do that?!</p>
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		<title>By: Mag the Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-147855</link>
		<dc:creator>Mag the Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are an introduced species, and have disrupted many native ecosystems here.  I would imagine they have a more sustainable &quot;niche&quot; in Europe?  To tell you the truth, this brief film reminded me a lot of the days many years ago I would injest certain chemical substances in search of mind-expansion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are an introduced species, and have disrupted many native ecosystems here.  I would imagine they have a more sustainable &#8220;niche&#8221; in Europe?  To tell you the truth, this brief film reminded me a lot of the days many years ago I would injest certain chemical substances in search of mind-expansion!</p>
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		<title>By: RouletteRog</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/14/birds/#comment-147838</link>
		<dc:creator>RouletteRog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if only humans in their cars were so skillful...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if only humans in their cars were so skillful&#8230;</p>
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