Fox Panel Speculates About 2012.
15 11 2009Before you click the play button, have a sweater handy. Heck, make it a parka because your blood is going to run cold. Thick and cold.
The apple does not fall far from the tree; the apple being Liz Cheney, and the gnarled, creaking tree with a shriveled black dead frozen heart is her father Dick Cheney. After telling us that Sarah Palin is absolutely a serious candidate for president in 2012, and what a fabulous and “well-written” book she has, she says it would be nothing short of sexist for someone to not think she’s a contender. After all, whoever the candidate is is going to have to be able to:
“…address these incredibly grave challenges we’re facing as a nation. They’re going to … in my view, they will have to undo a lot of the damage that this president has done to our national security, to our economy, to our health care system, to our standing around the world…”
Sexist. Why doesn’t anyone accuse Palin critics of being unqualifiedists, or whackjobbists, or narcissistists? OK, that last one is unpronounceable, but you get my point.
Juan Williams has a great “are you crazy?” response, and then we launch into “bow gate.” I won’t ruin it for you.
And then, at the end…. the words are spoken. Liz Cheney says you can look at the comparison between Dick Cheney and Barack Obama and think,
“Cheney 2012.”
November 15th, 2009 at 6:43 PM
I don’t care to watch the video with Liz or any other Cheney. All BS!!
I watched the Guyana story this weekend of Jim Jones and how many people he brained washed. Now I am thinking just how others in America are being brained washed by the likes of the Cheney’s , Sarah, Fox News —-and the list goes on , and on, and on——–.What or who will it take to get people to get their heads screwed on right?
November 15th, 2009 at 6:44 PM
oops, “either of them” (not either on them) sorry fumble fingers
November 15th, 2009 at 6:58 PM
I lasted about one minute in when I found myself shouting the “c” word (rhymes with “hunt”) at Ms. Cheney. This is why I can’t go into polite society anymore.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:02 PM
I am now a full-fledged member of the eye rollery, head bangery, whack jobbery, nose pickery, hand slappery, leg kickery, and tongue stick outery club. Save me from Palin and her ilk…please, someone.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:04 PM
I watched about 1/4 of it and found myself wondering why is she even considered a “pundit” or “talking head”. By virtue of being the daughter of Cheney? The GOP is out of control. Period!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Obama has damaged our standing in the world compared to Bush? Really? You really want to compare the world’s perception of the United States during Bush and during Obama? Really? You want to take a poll on how popular Obama is compared to Bush? Really? I mean… really?
I’m sure Liz Cheney loves her Father. I’m also sure she’s blind to being objective about her Dad as a candidate and certainly about Sarah Palin as a candidate. She’s read parts of the book? What parts? Well written? Does Liz even know that Lynn Vincent wrote the book? If Liz Cheney think Sarah Palin is a serious and legitimate contender for the Republican nomination based soley on the fact that we was on the last ticket as a VP and she’s a woman, well Liz Cheney is exactly the kind of faith based, brainless twit the McCain/Palin campaign was aiming for. Too bad Cheney didn’t have more kids.
Bow gate? It’s a matter of respect. Cheney and Palin aren’t exactly known for their courtesy and deportment either. I’m sure if Obama didn’t bow they’d label him as “uppity” and report on his dissing the Emperor of Japan and his wife.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:17 PM
((((hugs)))) to JC in CO. hang in there, take care of yourself. When things look bleak, remember, you have a lot of friends who care about you right there at your computer. Being unemployed is scary, but sometimes something good comes out of it.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:18 PM
SHE BANGS, SHE BANGS JUST LIKE SP!!!! Get a hair cut, honey!
November 15th, 2009 at 7:31 PM
I question the practice of showing these (Fox) clips here and places like Huffington Post. What is the point? We know they are lunatics. I turned off Fox News in the 90’s. Cheney was dead wrong on everything, except very successful on making money for war profiteering cronies and the oil industry.
We need to be proactive. The way to beat them, is to get progressives elected.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Sometime during their childhood my sons changed the saying “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree”, which was and is a favorite saying of their father. They changed it to, “The apple doesn’t fall far from the horse”.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Did any one here happen to notice that she did not say “Dick Cheney 2012″.
Could it be she was projecting a Freudian slippage sort of miss-peak, I mean Miss Cheney 2012.
( I read this over at that TPM tree house, I think)
M. Paul
November 15th, 2009 at 7:53 PM
posted without reading previous comments
IMO, Liz Cheney is positioning herself as Republican VP candidate in 2012. No matter how horrible this sounds (considering SP), the voting public has gotten used to seriously considering a female on the ticket. Conservative repubs and freepers want a female on the ticket (astonishing). Liz (Cheney Jr.) would work because she’s not as big of an idiot as SP and she has the prerequisite 5 children. She appears to do as she’s told and is not a ‘maverick’ though I’m pretty sure she’s a rogue (without the lipstick). Jeb Bush has already spoken of heading up a ’shadow’ government. Some are nostalgic for another Bush/Cheney regime.
Lord, help us all.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:54 PM
i noticed that good ol’ liz, pundit from hell, didn’t specify which vampire, i mean cheney, when she suggested the nightmare scenario, “cheney 2012.” in the past 8 months or so she has been on tv countless times, tearing apart obama in a fact free zone, and idolizing darth cheney, who is lucky he’s not in jail. these two make me nauseous. i just hope the majority of the country feels the same way.
November 15th, 2009 at 7:58 PM
I MIGHT make myself watch it tomorrow morning, after verifying AKM has set up another ‘Moment of Zen’ open thread to defrag my audio/visual equipment.
I only got the one set, don’cha know….
November 15th, 2009 at 7:58 PM
@wolfpack- i agree that we need to get proactive. there is a huge population of various ethnic groups that don’t go to vote. but, their culture is threatened by these right wing Christian lunatics. we need to get to these factions and get them involved…. (ex: zen, buddhist believers, etc.)
November 15th, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Obama didn’t leave the door open for the terrorists on 9/11; that was Cheney.
Obama didn’t destroy our economy; that was Cheney.
Obama didn’t destroy our standing in the world; that was Cheney.
And Lipbrained Liz wants her heart attack prone husband to become Prez?
November 15th, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Oh wait… Liz ain’t the dic!kless one’s husband.
Gets so all the Republican idiots are starting to look alike.
November 15th, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Seriously…you called it, AKM…I literally got a cold chill when she said “Cheney 2012″…
By the way, President Obama is our first culturally educated President…perhaps ever. Bowing to one another in Japan is our equivalent of shaking hands. Americans are such idiots…
November 15th, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Joan Kind. I’ll go your boys one further:
“The pucky doesn’t fall far from the horse(’s behind).”
November 15th, 2009 at 8:35 PM
The more lunatic S’error and Liz act, the more money they raise from their base of tea-baggings, bigots, haters, and morons.
Expert from “The War Prayer” – Mark Twain
“It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun……
It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said. “
November 15th, 2009 at 9:19 PM
OT – but the President is at a town hall meeting in China and you can see it live here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/live (hurry – it’s almost over)
November 15th, 2009 at 9:52 PM
I saw this on tv this morning, and I almost choked on my breakfast. I cannot believe anyone would say that SP is a viable candidate for the POTUS in 2012 with a straight face. Choosing her for VP was a huge mistake, and most people know it, including the McCains!
OTOH, Democrats would rejoice, lol.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:02 AM
TV Time for this?
Hey, I´m a woman, can I be President? Oh, I was not born in the USA…. Anybody else feel like it today?
November 16th, 2009 at 12:09 AM
OMG Bowgate:
Yes, don’t ever show respect for another country’s traditions, EVER.
What a great way to NOT build relationships with people. I’m glad these morons are not in power. No wonder foreigner’s have such a dim view of some Americans.
November 16th, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Read the entry at Wikipedia on Liz Cheney and her comments become clearer – she is testing the public reaction to voicing her own aspirations to the Presidency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney
“In October 2009 Liz Cheney, William Kristol, and Deborah Burlingame launched, as board members, a non-profit 501(c)4 organization, Keep America Safe, with the mission of destabilizing the incumbent Democratic president’s foreign policy. Staffed predominantly by former staffers of John McCain’s presidential campaign, the group collects donations and data about contributors and visitors to its website, and reserves the right to share that data with unspecified “third parties.” ”
We cannot let Dick or Liz Cheney back into the Oval Office. They are pure evil.
November 16th, 2009 at 3:09 AM
I’m not going to be able to watch this video because this woman does make my blood run cold. really, really does. worse than her father. And it sounds like you meant dick cheney 2012, but I betcha she means liz cheney. She has a very adept, very slick mind, and is going to be a formidable opponent to somebody sometime.
November 16th, 2009 at 5:46 AM
When I look at Liz Cheney, all I can think of is the plague. She is living legacy of the scourge of the earth. And she breeds. Evil begets evil.
November 16th, 2009 at 7:15 AM
At least he didnt hold hands with of kiss a Saudi king that his family has long standing business ties with……
November 16th, 2009 at 7:53 AM
Cheney very deftly overlooks the fact that the damages done to our economy and national security started at the hands of the Bush/Cheney administration and were well documented before Obama….she just can’t acknowledge the damages that her father was a part of.
November 16th, 2009 at 8:42 AM
I dare them to run Liz Chaney.
She has a trail of lies, on tape, just about as long as Sarah’s.
The Chaney name brand is running about 20 some % approval. She’ll have a major uphill climb.
November 16th, 2009 at 9:35 AM
Please make it true. A Cheney/Palin ticket would be the greatest gift to progressives since Goldwater. The further Cheney and Palin drive the Republican party into whackdoodle land, the more moderate Republicans they leave stranded, the more they open the field for democrats and progressives. Remember George McGovern?
November 16th, 2009 at 9:36 AM
Chris Mattews of MSNBC had it right. The ticket of (holding nose) McQuittyCutty and Lord Darth Cheney, Jr. will be the equivalent of the old, American classic, ” To Kill a Mockingbird. ” This will appeal to those “Real Americans” who will see a blond and an idiot running against “That One.”
Palin and Cheney. Two nuts in one cracked shell.
November 16th, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Should Obama have thrown up on the Emperor of Japan instead? What passes for what is appropriate greeting a foreign dignitary amidst the Republican Party?
November 16th, 2009 at 11:25 AM
testing testing just to see if this will post.
20 oregonbird Says: November 16th, 2009 at 5:09 AM
If you don’t know about the Discovery Institute (www.discovery.org), you should. The short short story: The Discovery Institute is a pro-creationist (”Intelligent Design”) think tank heavily supported by ultra-right wing funds, cheerfully located at Union and 4th in downtown Seattle. They dish out the same rewarmed, widely discredited creationist bullshit that the right wing christians have tried to cram into schoolchildren for decades now. They’ve been all too successful as of late.
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Don’t worry too much about them, bird. Just ask the good people of Dover, PA, about what happens when Discovery tries to get the curriculum unscientific. Discovery lost big time in the heart of conservative country.
November 16th, 2009 at 11:26 AM
okay, so I guess it’s into moderation (although that’s not what I am seeing).
November 16th, 2009 at 11:37 AM
75 BigSlick Says: November 16th, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Read the entry at Wikipedia on Liz Cheney and her comments become clearer – she is testing the public reaction to voicing her own aspirations to the Presidency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney
“In October 2009 Liz Cheney, William Kristol, and Deborah Burlingame launched, as board members, a non-profit 501(c)4 organization, Keep America Safe, with the mission of destabilizing the incumbent Democratic president’s foreign policy. Staffed predominantly by former staffers of John McCain’s presidential campaign, the group collects donations and data about contributors and visitors to its website, and reserves the right to share that data with unspecified “third parties.” ”
That quote about destabilizing the current foreign policy is TREASON, as in aiding & abetting the enemy.
Someone(s) contact the DOJ about this…as in a whole bunch of e-mails to DOJ to follow-up….from a bunch of us…
November 16th, 2009 at 11:38 AM
75 BigSlick Says: November 16th, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Read the entry at Wikipedia on Liz Cheney and her comments become clearer – she is testing the public reaction to voicing her own aspirations to the Presidency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Cheney
“In October 2009 Liz Cheney, William Kristol, and Deborah Burlingame launched, as board members, a non-profit 501(c)4 organization, Keep America Safe, with the mission of destabilizing the incumbent Democratic president’s foreign policy. Staffed predominantly by former staffers of John McCain’s presidential campaign, the group collects donations and data about contributors and visitors to its website, and reserves the right to share that data with unspecified “third parties.” ”
That quote about destabilizing the current foreign policy is TREASON, as in aiding & abetting the enemy. By taking a direct step against foreign policy it aids the enemy.
Someone(s) contact the DOJ about this…as in a whole bunch of e-mails to DOJ to follow-up….from a bunch of us…
November 16th, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Whoops…sorry for the double post here!
November 16th, 2009 at 2:49 PM
It’s stupid crazy how they latch onto a bow at the end of that clip. It’s like pointing out that someone is wearing mismatched socks or something. *eye roll*