Open Thread
19 11 2009I don’t know how these pictures escaped me. Well, actually I do. My in-box fills up very fast some days and it’s almost impossible to keep up.
But, Mudflatter MJ sent these pictures of the hale and hearty souls who made an appearance at the gates of Elmendorf Air Force Base to welcome President Obama to Alaska. There were about 35 who showed up. Not bad for a non-anti-Palin rally!
Thanks for sending them along!





















November 19th, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Chat / Treehouse is open
http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php?action=chat
C’mon by !!
November 19th, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Ben Smith at Politico has it soooo bad for Palin. It’s obvious that he is in love with the woman and it’s no surprise that he is “on the bus” with her.
I was thinking earlier today that this whole bus trip seems to be Palin calling a re-do on the campaign. I am sure she is sitting her bus thinking that she is running for office.
November 19th, 2009 at 2:26 PM
That photo on Andrew’s site is such a sick photo-opp. Palin gettin’ off the bus with baby on hip.
I bet she didn’t touch that child until the cameras were rolling. I’m sure she has some caretaker or aide…or Piper to do the baby sitting until her child becomes an asset for the sake of the media.
She is so fake.
November 19th, 2009 at 2:31 PM
lmao
MSNBC has a “word cloud” of Going Rogue ~~~
Their puter must not have picked up on GOD tho -
Did manage to catch couple hundred Todd’s, several hundred “family, kids, mom, dad”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34042064/ns/politics-more_politics
November 19th, 2009 at 2:32 PM
This makes me happy.
http://www.2news.tv/home/poll/70281067.html?submit=Submit&oid=2&mr=1&t=a&pid=70281067&cid=3031&pollpg=y
November 19th, 2009 at 2:45 PM
95 nswfm CA,
I too have now just sent another email to CafePress.
November 19th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I just saw on Yahoo that Fox apologized for the fake Palin coverage they aired. They showed huge crowds from a campaign rally and said it was a crowd at her book signing. They said, footage is just coming in……..and then showed footage from last year.
They claim it was an production error. Ya right. You would think that after being caught last week doing the same thing, that they would try a little harder to pretend they are news.
Shameless.
November 19th, 2009 at 3:11 PM
On the same topic of the media. I find it really sad that the media came to the defense of Fox a few weeks ago, and attacked the White House and The President for calling Fox out. Yet, no one in the media has come to the defense of Couric after Palin’s claims of abuse by Couric.
I read that they (the media) didn’t like the White House calling out Fox because they are all “brothers” in a sense. Yet, no one has defended Couric and called out Palin for her ridiculous claims?
Disgusting.
November 19th, 2009 at 3:12 PM
New poster for Bristol’s Candies abstinence campaign.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2521/3721630725_e1e23a482e.jpg
November 19th, 2009 at 3:12 PM
New poster for Bristol’s Candies abstinence campaign.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2521/3721630725_e1e23a482e.jpg
November 19th, 2009 at 3:13 PM
sorry on the double post
November 19th, 2009 at 3:17 PM
MSNBC’s The Ed Show is talking with Tom Bristol about the Pebble Mine. He said he will have the mining company on to discuss this issue.
Mr. Bristol mentioned that the area is one where earthquakes happen, and that adds to the danger of the mine.
November 19th, 2009 at 3:47 PM
austinTX!!! Holy mother of GOD!!! Long time no see, my Texas shrimp-sending, moose-distributing friend!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 3:51 PM
The pictures are so great. I wish I could see the President, as he is the only person I would stand in a long line waiting to see. I thank all you for the interesting and funny posts, as well as the references to other sites.
November 19th, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Hey Ripley !! Glad that the shrimp caper got solved. bubs told me that there was a little……er…”stink”. But all is well. Saw El Jefe while I was away and he said you angels are doing swell and might have an escapade up your sleeves. Of course we will expect a full report WITH pictures , as was the previous case.
November 19th, 2009 at 4:30 PM
austin is back ripley. i am thrilled to see him too.
November 19th, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Mrs. Palin was just on O’Rilley and he ask her what bothered her most and she said people saying she should have aborted her baby. I may have missed something but I don’t remember anyone saying she should have aborted him. Am I wrong on this?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:08 PM
The report on Alaska Report about an Alaskan pol’s young daughter being with child is no longer there. Anyone know any more?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I just wanted to mention– UC regents raised undergraduate tuition by 32 percent! California has nearly 10 percent of the population of the United States, so State-school tuition just went up a third for nearly 1 in 10 Americans.
George Bush and republicans really messed up our country. Their policies devastated our economy and it will take decades to repair their damage. A few years ago it would have been unconscionable for UC would raise tuition by a third in a single year, but after Bush we’ll believe any bad news.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I believe it was Lori (I may be wrong and I apologize) advised us that CafePress put the items with regard to Psalm 109 back online for purchase today.
I sent another email to CafePress including the wording for both Psalms, 109.8 shown on their items but hiding behind Pray for Obama and Psalm 109.9 for clarification as 109.9 makes reference to ‘May his children be fatherless, his wife a widow’, for their reconsideration for removal of the items as they may not have researched it. Here is the response that I just received. They are going to continue selling them.
“Thank you for contacting CafePress.com!
Cafepress looks at content on a case by case basis, and makes decisions about what content is permissible based on our content usage policy.
Anti-presidential gear has been a mainstay at Cafepress since we were founded in 1999 and has become a key component of political discourse. Our site has become a cultural barometer of public opinion and as such designs often come into question. In managing our content we are trying to protect self expression, while making sure we are not advocating violence.
We initially pulled the Psalm 109:8 content from our products today because broader media dialog indicated that these designs potentially suggested violence towards the president. Based on current public discourse and further review of the actual content, we have determined that it is fair political commentary and we are in the process of reinstating this merchandise. As with all of our content, these designs will continue to be reviewed and if at any time their meaning is construed as advocating violence we will revisit our decision.
Your ticket code is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Please use this code in any further communication”
What do you think? Time to step this up?
Does someone have the email address to report CafePress & this material
November 19th, 2009 at 6:14 PM
@120 meede
I canceled my CafePress account and received the same reply as you.
Here is my response to them:
From the King James Bible:
Psalm 109:8 – Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
Psalm 109:9 – Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
If this is the state of the current public discourse, I think we need some serious intervention. I still am of the opinion that the inference in these verses is to violence. I think you should do the right thing and stop selling these items. This puts you on the level of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and their ilk. First Amendment freedom of expression should not mean that we loose all civility toward each other.
I shall not renew my account with you and will advise my friends and family to do likewise.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Sherry Johnston, sentencing tomorrow. 11-20
November 19th, 2009 at 7:03 PM
aussiegal77 Says: November 19th, 2009 at 11:32 AM
“At least one person in the crowd yelled: “Palin power. 2012, yes.””
Palin Power? That reminds me of another familiar saying. Interesting.
I say: Palin Power, may it be shorted out forevermore!
November 19th, 2009 at 7:05 PM
I was just over at Ebay, and some sellers are offering – for over $100.00 each – a LEATHER BOUND jacket with the Palin book inside.
Has anyone else seen this edition for sale anywhere? Amazon’s not offering it.
Can you imagine the lard-heads who would bid and pay over $100.00 for this?
November 19th, 2009 at 7:12 PM
119, The only silver lining in that is that the students organized to protest. Let’s hope they keep that organizing to protest infrastructure together and use it in other situations when needed. Like in the next few elections. It worked to get divestment from Apartheid South Africa.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Cafe Press email address: pr@cafepress.com
The Public Relations department is a good way to contact them. Let’s tell ‘em what we think of selling merchandise that calls for the assignation of POTUS.
Does anyone know if AKM is aware of what is going on? Is it time to switch to Zazzle?
I’ll never buy another thing from them.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Canadian article on Palin- Wy be Evita if you can be Madonna?
http://www.canada.com/news/Sarah+choice/2221747/story.html
November 19th, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Just checked eBay and Pray for … bumper stickers are gone! It was a buy it now and was suppose to be up for 30 days.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:01 PM
126 A fan from CA,
My post at #120 refers to my second dealing with Cafe Press this afternoon.
When people wrote yesterday, they left the main pictures but when you clicked on them, it took you to a page that said the items could not be found. They reconsidered, and decided to put the items back up for sale.
When Lori advised the items were for sale once again, this afternoon I and some others send another email. I know in mine I made reference to the 109.8 and the 109.9 Psalm references as looking at them together makes it even worse. The response I posted in #120 is their response back that they are unwilling to remove the items as what they are saying is they don’t find them harmful.
I’m wondering now if they should be reported to FBI or what to do? That is what I was making reference to for an email address to write to.
If anyone has any further ideas — let us know.
Zazzle understood and realized and removed the items. CafePress are being irresponsible.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Rachel mentioned on her show tonight, that Zazzle did the decent and right thing by removing the PFO items. I had also contacted CafePress a couple of times, and on the second response it stated as others have shown – they’ve reviewed it and put the items back up.
They carry Mudflats items………where else might AKM market the stuff?
November 19th, 2009 at 8:20 PM
Geoff Dunn has a funny item up – with the purchase of Palin’s book, the bookstore in CA is giving away a free bag “Sarah Palin’s….Just Plain Nuts”. If someone doesn’t want to buy the book, they’ll sell them the bags of nuts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-dunn/california-bookstore-laun_b_364086.html
November 19th, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Meede, Rachel had the story on her show tonight and has a link from her site.
I would think that the Secret Service has heard about this by now, but if you want to contact I’d look up a phone number for them and the FBI.
I also tried to send an email to AKM at yahoo but it bounced. I did send a message in the forum to adm. I know that she is really busy reading the stinking pile but I want her to be aware. Rachel has millions of viewers and I’m sure some are as upset by this as we are.
Zazzle and ebay have done the right thing and not given these seriously sick people a forum to sell this offensive stuff. I think Cafe Press will have a big problem on their libertarian hands.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:54 PM
A fan from CA,
With Rachel covering it again tonight, let’s see what happens. As you say, there may be many who didn’t write on her first report, but as she has mentioned it again with further explanation and wording of the Psalm, they will now. We can keep watch on Cafe Press.
Thanks.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:01 PM
@36 CO almost native Says:
November 19th, 2009 at 9:14 AM
….
He is still hearing about the Great Turkey Escape (heh heh).
—————————
Now, that is almost enough to get me to go buy one of them turkey fryers. I wonder if it’s possible to get it to do a countdown.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:11 PM
I hope AKM broadens her distribution network, because I will certainly never buy anything else through Cafe Press. Probably even if they re-reverse their position. If they couldn’t figure out that Ps109:8 is followed by :9, and in context is beyond-the-pale hateful, then they are to stupid to patronize.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:12 PM
“too stupid”. Sorry. I don’t type well, and even worse when I’m mad.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:42 PM
If anyone is interested in telling Ft. Bragg their opinion on letting Palin on the base for her book signing tour, here’s the number to call at Ft. Bragg # 910-907-5290
Palin should take her book selling tour to commercial venues….NOT to military bases when she is a good deal responsible for the 400X increase in death threats against the commander-in-chief of the US military.
Pass this number along. It’s outrageous she’s been allowed to peddle her lies and subversive politics against PO onto a military establishment.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:04 AM
This info from Daily Kos:
November 20th, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Oops, hit the wrong button:
money talks: cafepress’s VC money
Follow the money — here are some of the key investors in cafepress.com, a privately held company, per news stories on the web:
Douglas Leone
Sequoia Capital
leone@sequoiacap.com
Jeff Jordan
CEO of Open Table
http://www.opentable.com
PacRim Venture Partners
Tom Toy
http://www.pacrimpartners.com/
ttoy@pacrimpartners.com
New Millennium Partners
Robert M. Senoff, Managing Member
http://www.nmpartners.com/
No contact info listed
Jon Staenberg, Managing Partner
Staenberg Private Capital
http://www.staenberg.com/
(206) 686-0777