Comments on: Voices from the Flats – Palin Critic’s Attorney on Being “Named” in Going Rogue http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/ Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:11:08 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jerry Melton http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-152601 Jerry Melton Thu, 26 Nov 2009 08:15:16 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-152601 As the Palin turns! Those Alaska nights are colder than I imagined. Is the next stop Maury Povich or will Sister Sarah want this on Pay-per-view for $49 {$10 extra for HD}. I say let the marketplace decide! As the Palin turns! Those Alaska nights are colder than I imagined. Is the next stop Maury Povich or will Sister Sarah want this on Pay-per-view for $49 {$10 extra for HD}. I say let the marketplace decide!

]]> By: laingirl http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-152101 laingirl Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:49:33 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-152101 Only 66 people have commented on this great stories on Huffington Post. Please also comment there. I don't think HuPo is giving it very good placement on their pages. Only 66 people have commented on this great stories on Huffington Post. Please also comment there. I don’t think HuPo is giving it very good placement on their pages.

]]> By: AKPetMom http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-152045 AKPetMom Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:03:17 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-152045 I for one would like to see Sarah knocked off her sanctimonious throne. Whichever lie does her in, I don't care, but after 413 pages of lies, I certainly hope one of them tarnishes her holier than thou image. I for one would like to see Sarah knocked off her sanctimonious throne. Whichever lie does her in, I don’t care, but after 413 pages of lies, I certainly hope one of them tarnishes her holier than thou image.

]]> By: Barb http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-151945 Barb Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:53:31 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-151945 Excellent! Excellent!

]]> By: Mrs. Tarquin Biscuitbarrel http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-151924 Mrs. Tarquin Biscuitbarrel Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:04:41 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-151924 I would say that Christopher Buckley ought to avoid clutching his pearls over maternity/paternity issues, given that he himself fathered an out-of-wedlock son whose maintenance is still disputed and still in the newspapers. WFB specifically wrote this child out of his will. The boy's mother has gone to court to have child support increased, as he has learning disabilities and needs a special school. Whatever was Buckley thinking, by Going There? The New York Post has had a field day with his denials--of paternity, until it was proven, of meeting the mother's needs--on many occasions. I would say that Christopher Buckley ought to avoid clutching his pearls over maternity/paternity issues, given that he himself fathered an out-of-wedlock son whose maintenance is still disputed and still in the newspapers. WFB specifically wrote this child out of his will. The boy’s mother has gone to court to have child support increased, as he has learning disabilities and needs a special school. Whatever was Buckley thinking, by Going There? The New York Post has had a field day with his denials–of paternity, until it was proven, of meeting the mother’s needs–on many occasions.

]]> By: Wurzelhexli http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-151913 Wurzelhexli Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:37:53 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-151913 #158, Archivist: "It really IS amazing; not only that she lies, but that she is confident that somehow, none of this can touch her. Why is that? Seriously … how did she get to this ‘place’ where reality doesn’t seem to enter into her view of herself?" She got to it through WITCHCRAFT - remember Moothee (sp) casting a spell over her in one of the by now scrubbed videos? On the other hand, I am REALLY worried about that Teflon cloak that she seems to be wearing... :( #158, Archivist: “It really IS amazing; not only that she lies, but that she is confident that somehow, none of this can touch her. Why is that? Seriously … how did she get to this ‘place’ where reality doesn’t seem to enter into her view of herself?”

She got to it through WITCHCRAFT – remember Moothee (sp) casting a spell over her in one of the by now scrubbed videos?

On the other hand, I am REALLY worried about that Teflon cloak that she seems to be wearing… :(

]]> By: MadCity Chick http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-151896 MadCity Chick Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:51:15 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-151896 54 ds55 Says: November 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 PM Can’t someone feed the pages of SP’s book into a scanner and create an index? I know there’s automatic footnote software available, I used some in grad school. An index to accompany “Going Rogue” may fetch a penny or two from SP’s faithful on eBay. __________________________ Christopher Buckley over at the Daily Beast has made an index for the book. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-21/going-rogue-the-index/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsC3 Just a few samples from the index: Alaska mind-numbingly boring intramural politics of, 1-208 Aristotle, 63 Atlantic Monthly formerly reputable outlet asserts Trig Palin actually child of Bristol or Willow, 238 Baldwin, Alec hypocritical failure to fulfill promise to leave U.S. after election of George W. Bush cited by SP, 313 Biden, Joe called “Joe” by SP, 289 hair plugs of thought about by SP as calming device going into debate, 297 Couric, Katie condescension of, 276 far more forgiving when Biden gives historically erroneous answer during his interview, 278 intense desire to be liked adduced by McCain staffer, 256 lowest-rated news anchor in network television, 270 should have been asked by SP what she reads, 207 Democrats “embarrassed pacifism” of deplored, 46 Elites stupidity of for buying Alaska salmon eggs labeled as “caviar,” 48 “want you to sit down and shut up,” 395 Fey, Tina friendliness and graciousness of to SP, 310 makes lots of money imitating SP, 293 God 1, 22, 30, 33, 34, 51, 56, 57, 76, 83, 104, 121, 133, 170, 173-5, 176, 177-8, 181, 185, 187, 193, 195, 208, 210-217, 243, 245, 261, 286-8, 294, 322-3, 346, 349, 355, 362, 399, 413 Kerry, John “elitist loon,” 181 54 ds55 Says:
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Can’t someone feed the pages of SP’s book into a scanner and create an index? I know there’s automatic footnote software available, I used some in grad school. An index to accompany “Going Rogue” may fetch a penny or two from SP’s faithful on eBay.
__________________________
Christopher Buckley over at the Daily Beast has made an index for the book.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-21/going-rogue-the-index/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsC3

Just a few samples from the index:

Alaska
mind-numbingly boring intramural politics of, 1-208
Aristotle, 63
Atlantic Monthly
formerly reputable outlet asserts Trig Palin actually child of Bristol or Willow, 238
Baldwin, Alec
hypocritical failure to fulfill promise to leave U.S. after election of George W. Bush cited by SP, 313
Biden, Joe
called “Joe” by SP, 289
hair plugs of thought about by SP as calming device going into debate, 297

Couric, Katie
condescension of, 276
far more forgiving when Biden gives historically erroneous answer during his interview, 278
intense desire to be liked adduced by McCain staffer, 256
lowest-rated news anchor in network television, 270
should have been asked by SP what she reads, 207
Democrats
“embarrassed pacifism” of deplored, 46
Elites
stupidity of for buying Alaska salmon eggs labeled as “caviar,” 48
“want you to sit down and shut up,” 395
Fey, Tina
friendliness and graciousness of to SP, 310
makes lots of money imitating SP, 293
God 1, 22, 30, 33, 34, 51, 56, 57, 76, 83, 104, 121, 133, 170, 173-5, 176, 177-8, 181, 185, 187, 193, 195, 208, 210-217, 243, 245, 261, 286-8, 294, 322-3, 346, 349, 355, 362, 399, 413
Kerry, John
“elitist loon,” 181

]]> By: deist http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-151894 deist Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:48:55 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-151894 Mr. Mitchell: I was thinking more about your excellent piece here: According to Petumenous (sp?), Bailey may have claimed the Palin administration wasn't aware of public records statutes. I think this claim is infuriating. Although they probably won't, the legislature should conduct hearings. I wouldn't know, but I suspect the Department of Law and/ or the Department of Administration explicitly trained executive branch staff on how to retain records, including email records. The instructions have always been there. The state is very clear about email policies and they spell it out. Records retention is a big deal. It would probably be easy to prove, as fact, that folks like Bailey and Palin were trained by the State, or instructed by the State, to copy their official state communications, including email communications, soon after they became state employees. Perhaps I'm wrong-- but I bet these people were informed of records retention policies soon after they came on the job. There are probably people in DOL or DOA who can confirm that. I doubt I'm telling you anything you haven't already looked into, but it bugs me big time if executive branch officials have the nerve to take personal possession of (or perhaps selectively expunge) state business communications. Every state official, from the governor down, works for the state. Their paid activities belong to the State of Alaska. Which takes me back to Parnell and AG Sullivan. Why can't Alaskans access information (like email records) about their government? Do Parnell and Sullivan own Alaska? Just makes me boil. I want my government back. Mr. Mitchell:

I was thinking more about your excellent piece here: According to Petumenous (sp?), Bailey may have claimed the Palin administration wasn’t aware of public records statutes. I think this claim is infuriating. Although they probably won’t, the legislature should conduct hearings.

I wouldn’t know, but I suspect the Department of Law and/ or the Department of Administration explicitly trained executive branch staff on how to retain records, including email records. The instructions have always been there. The state is very clear about email policies and they spell it out. Records retention is a big deal.

It would probably be easy to prove, as fact, that folks like Bailey and Palin were trained by the State, or instructed by the State, to copy their official state communications, including email communications, soon after they became state employees. Perhaps I’m wrong– but I bet these people were informed of records retention policies soon after they came on the job. There are probably people in DOL or DOA who can confirm that.

I doubt I’m telling you anything you haven’t already looked into, but it bugs me big time if executive branch officials have the nerve to take personal possession of (or perhaps selectively expunge) state business communications. Every state official, from the governor down, works for the state. Their paid activities belong to the State of Alaska.

Which takes me back to Parnell and AG Sullivan. Why can’t Alaskans access information (like email records) about their government? Do Parnell and Sullivan own Alaska? Just makes me boil. I want my government back.

]]> By: sauerkraut http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-151874 sauerkraut Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:30:58 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-151874 Ivy - it's just Sarah Palin's Leona Helmsley moment (the hired help can pay the taxes but not me). Consider the source. I refuse to become offended by anything Palin says. She's too stupid and narcissistic to know better. (wonder what she would think of me taking a shovel to the gutters behind the cows?? "eeewwww... don't wanna get my hands dirty like that!" - S-Error.) Ivy – it’s just Sarah Palin’s Leona Helmsley moment (the hired help can pay the taxes but not me). Consider the source. I refuse to become offended by anything Palin says. She’s too stupid and narcissistic to know better.

(wonder what she would think of me taking a shovel to the gutters behind the cows?? “eeewwww… don’t wanna get my hands dirty like that!” – S-Error.)

]]> By: Ivy Freeborn http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/23/voices-from-the-flats-palin-critics-attorney-on-being-named-in-going-rogue/#comment-151871 Ivy Freeborn Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:26:37 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=8282#comment-151871 "Sarah describes Andrew Halcro as “a wealthy, effete young chap who had taken over his father’s local Avis Rent A Car, and he starred in his own car commercial. He would go on to host a short-lived local radio show while blogging throughout the day, all of which were major steps up from a previous job as our limo driver at Todd’s cousin’s wedding.”" I don't read Andrew Halcro- no criticism of him, I just don't have time to read everything. But I think he may have justification for resentment at being termed "effete," which I have seen used in the past as code for "gay." Whether Mr Halcro is gay, I neither know nor care, and it's none of my business or Sarah Palin's. But I believe that is the purpose of her choice of that particular term. It's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to her followers, I believe. It's interesting that she wouldn't mention his run for office but would mention his stint as a limo driver. Apparently, being a limo driver is ridiculously low-class, but wanting to be driven in a limo is acceptable. How does Sarah Palin think limo rental service would work if it weren't for people willing to drive them? Is there something wrong with service industries, and can she explain how driving a limo is, as a class matter, different from Bristol working at Nordstrom's as a barrista? And is it less classy than Todd's fish-picking? I have made a lot of soup from one potato here, but it strikes me as particularly ugly to sneer at anybody's efforts to support themselves, and especially so in today's economy. No honest work is shameful or lowclass; anybody who finds a job and does it to the best of his ability deserves respect. “Sarah describes Andrew Halcro as “a wealthy, effete young chap who had taken over his father’s local Avis Rent A Car, and he starred in his own car commercial. He would go on to host a short-lived local radio show while blogging throughout the day, all of which were major steps up from a previous job as our limo driver at Todd’s cousin’s wedding.””

I don’t read Andrew Halcro- no criticism of him, I just don’t have time to read everything. But I think he may have justification for resentment at being termed “effete,” which I have seen used in the past as code for “gay.” Whether Mr Halcro is gay, I neither know nor care, and it’s none of my business or Sarah Palin’s. But I believe that is the purpose of her choice of that particular term. It’s a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to her followers, I believe.

It’s interesting that she wouldn’t mention his run for office but would mention his stint as a limo driver. Apparently, being a limo driver is ridiculously low-class, but wanting to be driven in a limo is acceptable. How does Sarah Palin think limo rental service would work if it weren’t for people willing to drive them? Is there something wrong with service industries, and can she explain how driving a limo is, as a class matter, different from Bristol working at Nordstrom’s as a barrista? And is it less classy than Todd’s fish-picking?

I have made a lot of soup from one potato here, but it strikes me as particularly ugly to sneer at anybody’s efforts to support themselves, and especially so in today’s economy. No honest work is shameful or lowclass; anybody who finds a job and does it to the best of his ability deserves respect.

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