Hello and welcome to the early AM after Thanksgiving. Friends of mine are actually somewhere standing in line tonight to buy presents for their grandkids at Toys R Us. All I can say is – Sleep is Me.
Any of you going out to do Christmas shopping today? I always avoid today when I can. A couple of years ago I worked in a craft store in a mall for the first part of the day, and it took me two hours to get out of the parking lot. We are not talking very big lot, either. Thought I was going to run out of gas.
Had a great Thanksgiving with family. Hope you all did too. We didn’t even talk politics, even though we’re all on the same side of the fence. I guess this is a sign we’re more content than I realized; no need to commiserate. Now there’s something to be thankful for.
Yesterday, I was charged $2.50 for my usual Thursday newspaper. The only difference from usual is that it had it had about 20 thick ad flyers which I had no interest in looking at. I thought advertisers were supposed to pay for those ads, not the customer. What did I know?
Hey . I don,t know how to say this…. but I have a broken neck. A serious fracture… a c2 fracture , type ll . (we’re talking Cristopher Reevees )
I had a fight with my twin sister and she looked me in the eye, then pushed me down the stairs. 14 of them.
The ER wanted to put me in a “Halo” or put screws in my neck, but i said no.
I am so scared. I am wearing a rigid collar ( Miami J) with cloth napkins for extra support. ( a Turkish study says a few of my fracture types healed with a “rigid collar”)
My mother called only once
and left a voice mail (one week ago) . No more calls to ask about my condition . Not even on Thanksgiving. I am only “thankful” for my dog (shep-husky) and my ex-boyfriend who is looking after me and my “sweet pea”.
My fracture is very scary. it takes a long time to heal and the “halo” does not help my type of fracture anymore than the “rigid collar” does, or so I’ve read
about. ( Turkish study,)
I am trying to channel Ann Strongheart right now. I only have myself and my ex and my dog to help me.
Am I asking for some love and attention? You “Betcha”. God, I sound so desperate. Well f-it. I guess I am.
Please give me the strength to carry on and become healthy. This sucks bigtime and I don’t want to tell any of my friends because it sounds so “JerrySpringer” – “WhiteTrashY”
Sorry for the buzz-kill. I too and also need to vent , cry and ask for some support. Please “pray” for me ( I am an agnostic).
dreamgirl, you are in my thoughts. (((very gentle hugs))) And please, do tell your friends you are hurt. They don’t have to know how it happened, but you will need more real-world support than an ex and a dog!
If you are already not doing it, please get your ex to go to a good health food store and buy you boron, magnesium and calcium plus Vit D3. You may find them in a combo or separately. Those are necessary for bone healing and work really well. You also need Vit C in large doses with B complex to go with the C.
Do you qualify for any home health help? Even someone to clean, etc.
dream girl,
i am praying for you. Whether you are agnostic or not, does not matter – when someone tells me they are agnostic, i hear someone that is being completely honest.
i hope you can feel all the supportive thoughts and prayers of your mudflat friends.
Regarding that story about Palin being punked. Some of our Canadian friends need to wander over to Huffpo and post. I was reading it yesterday, and the trolls were out in full force defending Palin saying that she “knows” what she is talking about because Canada is going broke because of their healthcare,etc. Mind you….these are right-wing American’s who were posting like they knew the details of Canada’s goverment.
They were trashing that comedian saying that she is the one who got punked because Palin was right about Canada…bla, bla, bla.
Just an FYI, anyone who has some first hand knowledge should go post on HuffPo.
Like I pointed out, why is it Palin’s business what Canada does with healthcare. She isn’t even an elected official in the US and couldn’t handle the job as gov. of Alaksa, an now she is telling Canada how to run their country.
I also read this morning that Palin started the 5K run, but she quit.
I guess there were a lot of fans at the finish line waiting for her, but she bailed early to avoid the crowds. So, her fans were waiting for her at the finish and they were left hanging.
When will they learn?
Does Palin think she is that much of a super-star that she can’t handle the crowds at a 5K run? Wow…that’s really being “for the people”.
It also said she was pushing a twin stroller? What twins?
Someone (on another post) said it didn’t even look like Trig was in the stroller.
I think the whole thing was just another photo op for Palin. She wanted to be seen running with her baby. Come on……she doesn’t run at home pushing Trig in a stroller, does she?
But, she does it for the press. I guess she figured the the press had enough shots showing her running with babies, so she didn’t need to finish and greet her fans.
And the third gem for the Palinista crowd is that Comrade Becksy does not want to run with the “yappy” st. scarah. Ooh, this is getting good. Popcorn for breakfast, anyone?
Hey folks, if you’re not shopping today or having fun with family and ya get bored, you could nip over to the Amazon website and check out all the discussions and ‘book reviews’ about Rogue. The ‘bots are out in full force and I can’t believe the number that are saying the enjoyed it. Yuck.
If I had a copy, I would go through it with an orange highlighter and mark everywhere she uses a mean or condescending adjective unnecessarily about other people. I wonder if there would be a single page free of orange marks?
Sorry to hear about your neck, dreamgirl, but a word of caution. “Turkish” studies tend not to follow medical science, ie, they have a tendency towards the unreliable. My suggestion, if you do not like the idea of having a halo device (why not, vanity?) is to get a 2nd opinion from an orthopeadic center or neurologist. Do not deny yourself the opportunity of a full and complete recovery by basing your course of action on a “turkish study.”
@ dreamgirl, I am so sorry to hear about what you are going through I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers, if you would like an email buddy, feel free to PM me on here sometime.
@ Dreamgirl
Sorry to hear of your ordeal. I will of course pray for you. You being agnostic doesn’t impact my belief. I would ask you to tell your friends the situation you are in since that is what friendship is all about. Friends are there for you, not just the good times but the bad. As for your ‘sister’ I hope you called the cops and are pressing charges. Please get a second opinion and you will be in my prayers. Hugs!
@26 sauerkraut, About Sarah quttin’ the 5K, I read it this morning, but now I’m trying to remember the site. I was doing my reading rounds this morning and came across that tidbit.
Sorry I don’t have link right now, I’ll try to find it.
Seems she just signed up for the photo Op and didn’t even finish the 5K.
Oh my, there are just too many fans for me to handle…….I quit.
I’m so sorry to hear about your situation but I’m going to give you a little reality check.
Over the past 25+ years, I’ve worked with lots of people who have had spinal cord injuries at all different levels of the spine, and I know how dangerous and life-changing they can be. You need to stop looking at Turkish studies (online, I assume?) and get yourself to a neurologist or other medical professional, as sauerkraut suggested. This can be a very serious type of injury, especially if it involves cervical vertebrae. This is NOT the time to be doing research online or hoping that the least invasive methods will eventually heal the injury.
Get yourself to a doctor and let them deal with the problem using tested medical procedures. I understand that it’s extremely frightening to face this kind of injury, but the alternative could be a lot scarier if you don’t get the proper medical treatment.
Also, keep calling your friends until you find some who are supportive. Many people are frightened by talking about this kind of injury because it reminds them of how random and fragile life can be. Keep looking until you find those friends, neighbors or anyone else who can get past that fear and be there for you so you can develop a support system.
I would strongly suggest looking into some spinal cord injury support groups in your area, either through local hospitals/rehab centers or national organizations. There you will find people who have been through the same experience as you have, and truly understand what you’re going through. They can give you emotional support as well as practical information that can be very helpful.
Here are two links you could try or do a search on ‘spinal cord injury support groups’ and your state or city:
As scared and upset as you are – and have every right to be – you need to get past those feelings and start taking concrete steps towards recovery. Take charge of your situation and I promise that it will help you feel emotionally stronger as well.
Dreamgirl ~ Thank God (or whomever you pray to) that you have insurance! Those of us who are considered uninsurable have to walk around on egg shells because we can’t afford to get hurt.
On another note: Here’s an update on David Kernell, the ‘hacker’:
****Writing in her new book, Going Rogue: An American Life, Palin says the intrusion into her personal e-mail account in September 2008 “created paralysis” in her administration, because it cut off easy communication with her “Alaska staff.” Presumably, this refers to her staff in the governor’s office, which would seem to be an acknowledgment that the personal account was used to conduct critical state work, as alleged in an activist’s lawsuit last year.****
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GA Peach a/k/a Lance the Boil aka Crust Scramblesays:
Dreamgirl, I know how scary being hurt can be. I was the biggest chicken in the world until a few years ago when I had to face the reality that I needed some surgery. Please go get a second opinion and ask for help in dealing with the fear. You are not the first to be afraid and there are very caring and good professionals who can help you do what you need to do to get better and fully recover.
And lots of (((((((((((Dreamgirl))))))))))))), you are strong and will get though this. Now get off the computer and start calling and making appointments to see the specialists.
To be fair to SP, I don’t think she dropped out of the race for physical problems. From the photos she had only one security person plus Chuck for protection of her, Piper, and the babies. Thousands (?) of people at the finish line would have been too much. If she were a normal person she would have taken the day to rest and regroup. If she were partially normal, she wouldn’t have exposed the children to all that commotion.
(((dreamgirl))) I am going to chime in with all of the others here and say, see a good orthopedist and neurologist. DO NOT depend on on-line info. You have not told us where on C2 your fracture is or how much of your motor and sensory function has been impacted. Are you able to move? Are you in pain? I had a good friend who had a cervical fracture from a motor vehicle accdent and did not have to be in a halo due to the type of fracture she had and she was in a rigid collar for quite some time. I am very concerned for you. Please get back to us and let us know how we can help. I will alos echo the sentiments here that you should continue to try to reach out to your friends if you can. Also reach out to home health and community services (your doctor should be able to help with this). Don’t just stop with the ER–they are not specialists.
We love you and you can always reach out to us here.
I think the guy who was playing security was actually Schueneman. I think there have been interesting interactions between him and SP since the debate prep last year. It will be interesting to watch.
Sorry to hear about your injury, and the indifference of your friends “adding insult to injury.” I said a prayer for you, but I don’t claim to have Eternalnet access. Do get the best medical care and advice you can, and I hope you have someone to help you cope with the medical-care monster. As someone once said, you should never be sick or injured if you’re not in excellent condition.
34 Tina in Tennessee Says:
November 27th, 2009 at 8:39 AM
Dreamgirl ~ Thank God (or whomever you pray to) that you have insurance! Those of us who are considered uninsurable have to walk around on egg shells because we can’t afford to get hurt.
On another note: Here’s an update on David Kernell, the ‘hacker’:
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Dreamgirl, go to the doctor. That is why we have insurance, for times like this. I broke L5 on both sides (throwing a stack of mail in the mail bin at the PO and then standing up fast because of the pain), and it took years to heal without any treatment because there was nothing to do but wait, but I have also had cervical spine injuries as well (from a nearly head on collision with a truck when I was the passenger) that are fortunately behind me.
I also say call your friends for help. There will be someone who can help now and some that will be able to help later. I’m giving your ex a gold star, also, too.
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On a humorous note, some of the comments from that link on the hacker:
“Palin makes rocks look smart.”
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“So, an email hack was the “most disruptive” event? My goodness. I suppose that means we are lucky that she was not voted in to office.
Can you imagine if she had, and a truly relevant crisis actually emerged? Like say, one that had consequences for people other than herself?”
Since this is an open thread, I’m going to toss out this thought that occurred to me after reading about Sarah Palin being flown around by Samaritan’s Purse. The partnership between SP and SP might be more (or less) than ideological, with material benefits to both I understand that charitable organizations have very little regulation as to accounting for where their money comes from and goes to. If a charitable organization wants its donors’ contributions to be tax-deductible, it must comply with IRS limitations regarding how funds are spent, but enforcement is lax, particularly in the case of religious organizations because of the First Amendment. Since both left and right-wing political movements have ties to church organizations, there is little political pressure for additional regulation and oversight. If a non-church organization claiming to feed the hungry spends 95% of donations on staff salaries, an ambitious attorney general might claim donors are being defrauded, but when a religious organization claims to be doing “God’s work,” it’s not the government’s business to question whether God’s angels need multi-million dollar private aircraft.
Anyway, it occurred to me that Samaritan’s Purse might be Sarah’s Purse, a useful conduit for political contributions to (not-so-good) Samaritan Palin. Don’t want your (corporate?) name appearing as a political donor? No problem, just contribute to the cost of the Purse’s aircraft. Palin won’t have to rent or lease one, and the Purse benefits by effectively leasing the aircraft to her. The Purse could also pay for, and be paid for, some of the boots on the ground and auxiliary services at Palin’s speaking stops, picking up what would otherwise be expenses for her campaign organization and functioning as an off-the-books political fundraiser. Of course, the Purse could not publicly solicit funds on the basis that the money would benefit Palin, but a few discreet words to a dozen privacy-loving wealthy donors would suffice, while the Purse benefits from the generosity of ordinary Palin supporters by being publicly associated with her.
I apologize if this possibility is already obvious to everyone. I don’t know how it might be investigated without subpoena power, but if the idea is spread around, people may be alert to clues and encounter those who know things and are willing to talk.
Dreamgirl, I’m sending positive vibes and warmest thoughts your way. I have to agree with what others have already said–get that second opinion, and reach out to friends, family. HUGSSSS!
MsQuitter left the race to avoid the crowds ????
– must have done that for the sake of all the other runners ???
(and I have some great ocean front property in MT to sell ))
— so it is thefault of her fan base or just that quirky part
of her MsQuitter personality??? a-yup
Hubby is “fixing the roof”? (love the code for “out in the cold”)
Where are those handy buds that helped him build the house? This 2nd house should have been finished weeks ago with those buds.
Black Friday and shopping: I have done the madness a couple times in the past, just for the experience of it. These days, I have the good sense to sleep until almost noon, and do most shopping online or at the Dollar Stores, LOL. Shopping, crowds and malls are just not my ‘thing’ at all.
I would like to believe the IRS will be looking closer into Tax Exempt Charities and Religious Orgs to confirm they are not using funds for political benefit/gain.
Am looking forward to INS Companies loosing their anti-trust status too in the near future too. Isn’t that why MaBell had to break up yrs ago?? Competition lowers costs !!!
Re Palin’s assertion that the hacker who penetrated her private e-mail account “paralyzed” her administration: how could anyone tell?
It probably did take a lot of her time to search her e-mails for embarrassing material and tell her correspondents that, thanks to her using a guessable password, their exchange wasn’t really private. It’s hardly a job she could have turned over to a secretary or an aide. But the moral of the story, which her book proves she hasn’t learned yet, is that if you don’t want the s**t to hit the fan, don’t throw the s**t.
I don’t know what to say since there are so many things to say! We should open a forum thread for you so that we can discuss more details about your environment and help find ways to get support for you. There are so many variables and we need more info! I agree with the posters that you need a he11 of a lot more support, information and medical advice to get through this. Knowledge is power – the more you know about this, the less you will be in fear and ready to face the healing process.
You hang in there, and yes, there is room here for another Ann Strongheart! You can do this!
@6 November 27th, 2009 at 3:36 AM
dreamgirl:
I am so sorry to hear about your injury. I am keeping you in my positive thoughts.
I don’t do intercessory healing prayer unless that’s what you want… it sounds like it.
Wow – I thought my family was in “Annus Horrilibus” but none of us caused something this tragic… You put things in perspective for me.
Please keep us posted. I send you strength to carry on and get healthy, and to heal your heart as well.
Why is it that the state government didn’t care that Palin used a private email account for state business?
In my organization, you would NEVER use private email accounts for business. The business email accounts have much higher security and safeguards against hacking. No one would even think of using a private email account for business purposes.
It’s amazing to me that they don’t care. It’s also amazing that they didn’t care that Todd was being copied on state business. He was NOT an elected official, so I would think the citizens would be upset over that one.
Can you imagine Palin in the White House copying Todd on high security issues so he could forward them to his buddies in the AIP?
37 sandra in oregon Says: November 27th, 2009 at 9:28 AM
If she were partially normal, she wouldn’t have exposed the children to all that commotion.
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If she were partially normal, she would not have worn an orange t-shirt with an entourage wearing t-shirts containing her likeness. Frankly, she was looking for attention. That she veered off-course prior to the finish because of some claim of too much attention simply doesn’t wash.
Still, her presence might bring additional runners to the Red Cross event and that is a big plus regardless of doofussly she may have acted.
Palin was asked earlier in the week about the possibility of a Palin/Beck 2012 ticket. Her response:
“He probably thought it was just a hoot too. I don’t know, we’ll see.”
She added: “But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He’s a hoot.”
Beck apparently is a wee bit sensitive about being referred to as a “hoot.” I suspect that since he takes himself so seriously….and he’s hooted at by most people as being a joke that Palin’s hooting got the better of him. His response:
BECK: I don’t think things are hoots. I don’t. I don’t think it’s a hoot. I would never use the word hoot, and I respectfully ask that every time my name is brought up she would stop using the word ‘hoot.’ [...]
No, no I’m just saying — Beck-Palin, I’ll consider. But Palin-Beck — can you imagine, can you imagine what an administration with the two of us would be like? What? Come on! She’d be yapping or something, and I’d say, “I’m sorry, why am I hearing your voice? I’m not in the kitchen.”
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Meoooooww! What a subtext here! The alley cats are caterwauling again, Papa. Throw a shoe at them…
Here is a story about a dedicated mother who is making a difference in the life of her brilliant, but disabled son: (Warning – may be a tearjerker!) http://tinyurl.com/ycceuk3
Dreamgirl, I’m sending positive vibes and prayers your way weather you believe or not and I agree see someone for a second opinion.Take care of your self.I know how hard it is to ask for help but sometimes you just have to do it.
dreamgirl,
thinking of you today and remembering you in my prayers. I hope you can hear the voice of love from the commenters here urging you to seek medical care immediately. I’m wondering about those who diagnosed the C2 fracture – did they not start you on a process of continued care? Why were you not kept at a medical facility? If you left on your own, please return, as you may need more help than you can diagnose for yourself.
hope everybody had a great Thanksgiving
OHMIGOSH
Did y’all hear what Shannyn got up to on Thanksgiving?
Shannyn’s Thanksgiving
I like these photos much, much better than the ones released earlier this week, don’t y’all?
Hello and welcome to the early AM after Thanksgiving. Friends of mine are actually somewhere standing in line tonight to buy presents for their grandkids at Toys R Us. All I can say is – Sleep is Me.
Any of you going out to do Christmas shopping today? I always avoid today when I can. A couple of years ago I worked in a craft store in a mall for the first part of the day, and it took me two hours to get out of the parking lot. We are not talking very big lot, either. Thought I was going to run out of gas.
Had a great Thanksgiving with family. Hope you all did too. We didn’t even talk politics, even though we’re all on the same side of the fence. I guess this is a sign we’re more content than I realized; no need to commiserate. Now there’s something to be thankful for.
Yesterday, I was charged $2.50 for my usual Thursday newspaper. The only difference from usual is that it had it had about 20 thick ad flyers which I had no interest in looking at. I thought advertisers were supposed to pay for those ads, not the customer. What did I know?
Hey . I don,t know how to say this…. but I have a broken neck. A serious fracture… a c2 fracture , type ll . (we’re talking Cristopher Reevees )
I had a fight with my twin sister and she looked me in the eye, then pushed me down the stairs. 14 of them.
The ER wanted to put me in a “Halo” or put screws in my neck, but i said no.
I am so scared. I am wearing a rigid collar ( Miami J) with cloth napkins for extra support. ( a Turkish study says a few of my fracture types healed with a “rigid collar”)
My mother called only once
and left a voice mail (one week ago) . No more calls to ask about my condition . Not even on Thanksgiving. I am only “thankful” for my dog (shep-husky) and my ex-boyfriend who is looking after me and my “sweet pea”.
My fracture is very scary. it takes a long time to heal and the “halo” does not help my type of fracture anymore than the “rigid collar” does, or so I’ve read
about. ( Turkish study,)
I am trying to channel Ann Strongheart right now. I only have myself and my ex and my dog to help me.
Am I asking for some love and attention? You “Betcha”. God, I sound so desperate. Well f-it. I guess I am.
Please give me the strength to carry on and become healthy. This sucks bigtime and I don’t want to tell any of my friends because it sounds so “JerrySpringer” – “WhiteTrashY”
Sorry for the buzz-kill. I too and also need to vent , cry and ask for some support. Please “pray” for me ( I am an agnostic).
((((dreamgirl)))). My thoughts are with you.
i’m so sorry dream girl…send healing thoughts and all my love !!!
Hey Dreamgirl, you are in my thoughts, but please get over it and call your friends, as you will wish they will do if something happens to them…
SK in bavarian, #9. The 2 people I called, did not want to acknowlege(sp) my condition or want to talk about it..
I think people do not like to deal or think about “illness”
F-Oprah and all that “Just call someone”, it is not happenening for me.
dreamgirl, you are in my thoughts. (((very gentle hugs))) And please, do tell your friends you are hurt. They don’t have to know how it happened, but you will need more real-world support than an ex and a dog!
awwww, dreamgirl
we are all here wishing the best for you and holding you in our hearts.
i hope that you feel our collective love.
dreamgirl -
Dang , sorry to hear about your plight.
For those who don’t want to do turkey leftovers , here is a picture tutorial on a different idea for a snack.
http://ninjaskilledmyfamily.com/1087/chocobacon/
Dreamgirl,
If you are already not doing it, please get your ex to go to a good health food store and buy you boron, magnesium and calcium plus Vit D3. You may find them in a combo or separately. Those are necessary for bone healing and work really well. You also need Vit C in large doses with B complex to go with the C.
Do you qualify for any home health help? Even someone to clean, etc.
Good luck!
Punked AGAIN !! What a dumb-f^*k…………
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/26/palin-tricked-by-comedian_n_371698.html
# 14, KJ in NC,
I am eating sardines w/ cayenne pepper and drinking tea w/ lemons.
Thanks for your info!
My ex will provide home cleaning. My BlueCrossBlueShield, we’ll see. (probably not so much)
dream girl,
i am praying for you. Whether you are agnostic or not, does not matter – when someone tells me they are agnostic, i hear someone that is being completely honest.
i hope you can feel all the supportive thoughts and prayers of your mudflat friends.
Regarding that story about Palin being punked. Some of our Canadian friends need to wander over to Huffpo and post. I was reading it yesterday, and the trolls were out in full force defending Palin saying that she “knows” what she is talking about because Canada is going broke because of their healthcare,etc. Mind you….these are right-wing American’s who were posting like they knew the details of Canada’s goverment.
They were trashing that comedian saying that she is the one who got punked because Palin was right about Canada…bla, bla, bla.
Just an FYI, anyone who has some first hand knowledge should go post on HuffPo.
Like I pointed out, why is it Palin’s business what Canada does with healthcare. She isn’t even an elected official in the US and couldn’t handle the job as gov. of Alaksa, an now she is telling Canada how to run their country.
I also read this morning that Palin started the 5K run, but she quit.
I guess there were a lot of fans at the finish line waiting for her, but she bailed early to avoid the crowds. So, her fans were waiting for her at the finish and they were left hanging.
When will they learn?
Does Palin think she is that much of a super-star that she can’t handle the crowds at a 5K run? Wow…that’s really being “for the people”.
It also said she was pushing a twin stroller? What twins?
Someone (on another post) said it didn’t even look like Trig was in the stroller.
I think the whole thing was just another photo op for Palin. She wanted to be seen running with her baby. Come on……she doesn’t run at home pushing Trig in a stroller, does she?
But, she does it for the press. I guess she figured the the press had enough shots showing her running with babies, so she didn’t need to finish and greet her fans.
What a fraud.
And the third gem for the Palinista crowd is that Comrade Becksy does not want to run with the “yappy” st. scarah. Ooh, this is getting good. Popcorn for breakfast, anyone?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/26/beck-rules-out-2012-run-w_n_371728.html
Boston Globe published a review of Going Rogue today. Note in the comments the bulldog tactics of the very few Palinistas.
http://www.boston.com/ae/books/articles/2009/11/27/a_shortsighted_memoir_from_sarah_palin/
Hey folks, if you’re not shopping today or having fun with family and ya get bored, you could nip over to the Amazon website and check out all the discussions and ‘book reviews’ about Rogue. The ‘bots are out in full force and I can’t believe the number that are saying the enjoyed it. Yuck.
If I had a copy, I would go through it with an orange highlighter and mark everywhere she uses a mean or condescending adjective unnecessarily about other people. I wonder if there would be a single page free of orange marks?
Sorry to hear about your neck, dreamgirl, but a word of caution. “Turkish” studies tend not to follow medical science, ie, they have a tendency towards the unreliable. My suggestion, if you do not like the idea of having a halo device (why not, vanity?) is to get a 2nd opinion from an orthopeadic center or neurologist. Do not deny yourself the opportunity of a full and complete recovery by basing your course of action on a “turkish study.”
@ dreamgirl, I am so sorry to hear about what you are going through I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers, if you would like an email buddy, feel free to PM me on here sometime.
19 trisha Says: November 27th, 2009 at 6:53 AM
I also read this morning that Palin started the 5K run, but she quit.
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Is that true?? If so, bwahahahahahaaaaa… she’s not even a jogger.
Sorry.
Back to your regularly scheduled programming. …
@ Dreamgirl
Sorry to hear of your ordeal. I will of course pray for you. You being agnostic doesn’t impact my belief. I would ask you to tell your friends the situation you are in since that is what friendship is all about. Friends are there for you, not just the good times but the bad. As for your ‘sister’ I hope you called the cops and are pressing charges. Please get a second opinion and you will be in my prayers. Hugs!
Sarah Palin was down here in Washington and entered a Thanksgiving Day race with her family in Richland -anyway…this just in –
“She didn’t finish the race, opting to leave early to avoid more crowds”
[http://www.komonews.com/news/local/75293297.html]
Once again, Sarah the Quitter. LMAO.
@26 sauerkraut, About Sarah quttin’ the 5K, I read it this morning, but now I’m trying to remember the site. I was doing my reading rounds this morning and came across that tidbit.
Sorry I don’t have link right now, I’ll try to find it.
Seems she just signed up for the photo Op and didn’t even finish the 5K.
Oh my, there are just too many fans for me to handle…….I quit.
JonDana, thanks, you saved me from searching for the link.
dreamgirl,
You’ve got my “prayers” too, hon. Agnostic or no, you’ve got a full plate, and can at least use all the well wishes you can get.
Keep us informed, please! Prayers will continue.
Nan
@dreamgirl
Prayers.
“Vocatus atque non vocatus, Deus aderit.”
(Invoked or not invoked, God is present)
Dreamgirl -
I’m so sorry to hear about your situation but I’m going to give you a little reality check.
Over the past 25+ years, I’ve worked with lots of people who have had spinal cord injuries at all different levels of the spine, and I know how dangerous and life-changing they can be. You need to stop looking at Turkish studies (online, I assume?) and get yourself to a neurologist or other medical professional, as sauerkraut suggested. This can be a very serious type of injury, especially if it involves cervical vertebrae. This is NOT the time to be doing research online or hoping that the least invasive methods will eventually heal the injury.
Get yourself to a doctor and let them deal with the problem using tested medical procedures. I understand that it’s extremely frightening to face this kind of injury, but the alternative could be a lot scarier if you don’t get the proper medical treatment.
Also, keep calling your friends until you find some who are supportive. Many people are frightened by talking about this kind of injury because it reminds them of how random and fragile life can be. Keep looking until you find those friends, neighbors or anyone else who can get past that fear and be there for you so you can develop a support system.
I would strongly suggest looking into some spinal cord injury support groups in your area, either through local hospitals/rehab centers or national organizations. There you will find people who have been through the same experience as you have, and truly understand what you’re going through. They can give you emotional support as well as practical information that can be very helpful.
Here are two links you could try or do a search on ‘spinal cord injury support groups’ and your state or city:
http://www.sci-info-pages.com/state-resources.html
http://www.spinalcord.org/chapters/
As scared and upset as you are – and have every right to be – you need to get past those feelings and start taking concrete steps towards recovery. Take charge of your situation and I promise that it will help you feel emotionally stronger as well.
There…lecture over!
Dreamgirl ~ Thank God (or whomever you pray to) that you have insurance! Those of us who are considered uninsurable have to walk around on egg shells because we can’t afford to get hurt.
On another note: Here’s an update on David Kernell, the ‘hacker’:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/11/palin-hack-2/
An excerpt:
****Writing in her new book, Going Rogue: An American Life, Palin says the intrusion into her personal e-mail account in September 2008 “created paralysis” in her administration, because it cut off easy communication with her “Alaska staff.” Presumably, this refers to her staff in the governor’s office, which would seem to be an acknowledgment that the personal account was used to conduct critical state work, as alleged in an activist’s lawsuit last year.****
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@sauerkraut
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Good advice, sauerkraut. Good lecture, leenie17.
Listen up, dreamgirl.
Dreamgirl, I know how scary being hurt can be. I was the biggest chicken in the world until a few years ago when I had to face the reality that I needed some surgery. Please go get a second opinion and ask for help in dealing with the fear. You are not the first to be afraid and there are very caring and good professionals who can help you do what you need to do to get better and fully recover.
And lots of (((((((((((Dreamgirl))))))))))))), you are strong and will get though this. Now get off the computer and start calling and making appointments to see the specialists.
To be fair to SP, I don’t think she dropped out of the race for physical problems. From the photos she had only one security person plus Chuck for protection of her, Piper, and the babies. Thousands (?) of people at the finish line would have been too much. If she were a normal person she would have taken the day to rest and regroup. If she were partially normal, she wouldn’t have exposed the children to all that commotion.
(((dreamgirl))) I am going to chime in with all of the others here and say, see a good orthopedist and neurologist. DO NOT depend on on-line info. You have not told us where on C2 your fracture is or how much of your motor and sensory function has been impacted. Are you able to move? Are you in pain? I had a good friend who had a cervical fracture from a motor vehicle accdent and did not have to be in a halo due to the type of fracture she had and she was in a rigid collar for quite some time. I am very concerned for you. Please get back to us and let us know how we can help. I will alos echo the sentiments here that you should continue to try to reach out to your friends if you can. Also reach out to home health and community services (your doctor should be able to help with this). Don’t just stop with the ER–they are not specialists.
We love you and you can always reach out to us here.
Dreamgirl sending you my best wishes and prayers for healing.
No one claimed that she didn’t finish for a physical reason. She just didn’t want to handle the crowds, so she quit.
Did she grow another baby? How is it that she had a stroller for twins?
I can’t defend her since she, once again, uses children as props. Why did she feel the need to run with a stroller? One reason…..photo opportunity.
She had to know in advance that crowds would be there, so why even start if she knew she couldn’t finish because of the crowds?
The answer is that she showed up so she could have her photo taken with a baby stroller. How sweet…..gag.
I think the guy who was playing security was actually Schueneman. I think there have been interesting interactions between him and SP since the debate prep last year. It will be interesting to watch.
Dreamgirl,
Sorry to hear about your injury, and the indifference of your friends “adding insult to injury.” I said a prayer for you, but I don’t claim to have Eternalnet access. Do get the best medical care and advice you can, and I hope you have someone to help you cope with the medical-care monster. As someone once said, you should never be sick or injured if you’re not in excellent condition.
34 Tina in Tennessee Says:
November 27th, 2009 at 8:39 AM
Dreamgirl ~ Thank God (or whomever you pray to) that you have insurance! Those of us who are considered uninsurable have to walk around on egg shells because we can’t afford to get hurt.
On another note: Here’s an update on David Kernell, the ‘hacker’:
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Dreamgirl, go to the doctor. That is why we have insurance, for times like this. I broke L5 on both sides (throwing a stack of mail in the mail bin at the PO and then standing up fast because of the pain), and it took years to heal without any treatment because there was nothing to do but wait, but I have also had cervical spine injuries as well (from a nearly head on collision with a truck when I was the passenger) that are fortunately behind me.
I also say call your friends for help. There will be someone who can help now and some that will be able to help later. I’m giving your ex a gold star, also, too.
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On a humorous note, some of the comments from that link on the hacker:
“Palin makes rocks look smart.”
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“So, an email hack was the “most disruptive” event? My goodness. I suppose that means we are lucky that she was not voted in to office.
Can you imagine if she had, and a truly relevant crisis actually emerged? Like say, one that had consequences for people other than herself?”
Since this is an open thread, I’m going to toss out this thought that occurred to me after reading about Sarah Palin being flown around by Samaritan’s Purse. The partnership between SP and SP might be more (or less) than ideological, with material benefits to both I understand that charitable organizations have very little regulation as to accounting for where their money comes from and goes to. If a charitable organization wants its donors’ contributions to be tax-deductible, it must comply with IRS limitations regarding how funds are spent, but enforcement is lax, particularly in the case of religious organizations because of the First Amendment. Since both left and right-wing political movements have ties to church organizations, there is little political pressure for additional regulation and oversight. If a non-church organization claiming to feed the hungry spends 95% of donations on staff salaries, an ambitious attorney general might claim donors are being defrauded, but when a religious organization claims to be doing “God’s work,” it’s not the government’s business to question whether God’s angels need multi-million dollar private aircraft.
Anyway, it occurred to me that Samaritan’s Purse might be Sarah’s Purse, a useful conduit for political contributions to (not-so-good) Samaritan Palin. Don’t want your (corporate?) name appearing as a political donor? No problem, just contribute to the cost of the Purse’s aircraft. Palin won’t have to rent or lease one, and the Purse benefits by effectively leasing the aircraft to her. The Purse could also pay for, and be paid for, some of the boots on the ground and auxiliary services at Palin’s speaking stops, picking up what would otherwise be expenses for her campaign organization and functioning as an off-the-books political fundraiser. Of course, the Purse could not publicly solicit funds on the basis that the money would benefit Palin, but a few discreet words to a dozen privacy-loving wealthy donors would suffice, while the Purse benefits from the generosity of ordinary Palin supporters by being publicly associated with her.
I apologize if this possibility is already obvious to everyone. I don’t know how it might be investigated without subpoena power, but if the idea is spread around, people may be alert to clues and encounter those who know things and are willing to talk.
Dreamgirl, I’m sending positive vibes and warmest thoughts your way. I have to agree with what others have already said–get that second opinion, and reach out to friends, family. HUGSSSS!
oh my what a day already
MsQuitter left the race to avoid the crowds ????
– must have done that for the sake of all the other runners ???
(and I have some great ocean front property in MT to sell ))
— so it is thefault of her fan base or just that quirky part
of her MsQuitter personality??? a-yup
Hubby is “fixing the roof”? (love the code for “out in the cold”)
Where are those handy buds that helped him build the house? This 2nd house should have been finished weeks ago with those buds.
Dreamgirl – tc & I’ll be thinking of you.
As for Sarah quitting the race or whatever it was….no big shocker there. Quitting is her trademark, don’tcha know? (wink wink)
Black Friday and shopping: I have done the madness a couple times in the past, just for the experience of it. These days, I have the good sense to sleep until almost noon, and do most shopping online or at the Dollar Stores, LOL. Shopping, crowds and malls are just not my ‘thing’ at all.
Good Point Chaim –
I would like to believe the IRS will be looking closer into Tax Exempt Charities and Religious Orgs to confirm they are not using funds for political benefit/gain.
Am looking forward to INS Companies loosing their anti-trust status too in the near future too. Isn’t that why MaBell had to break up yrs ago?? Competition lowers costs !!!
Re Palin’s assertion that the hacker who penetrated her private e-mail account “paralyzed” her administration: how could anyone tell?
It probably did take a lot of her time to search her e-mails for embarrassing material and tell her correspondents that, thanks to her using a guessable password, their exchange wasn’t really private. It’s hardly a job she could have turned over to a secretary or an aide. But the moral of the story, which her book proves she hasn’t learned yet, is that if you don’t want the s**t to hit the fan, don’t throw the s**t.
dreamgirl,
I don’t know what to say since there are so many things to say! We should open a forum thread for you so that we can discuss more details about your environment and help find ways to get support for you. There are so many variables and we need more info! I agree with the posters that you need a he11 of a lot more support, information and medical advice to get through this. Knowledge is power – the more you know about this, the less you will be in fear and ready to face the healing process.
You hang in there, and yes, there is room here for another Ann Strongheart! You can do this!
@6 November 27th, 2009 at 3:36 AM
dreamgirl:
I am so sorry to hear about your injury. I am keeping you in my positive thoughts.
I don’t do intercessory healing prayer unless that’s what you want… it sounds like it.
Wow – I thought my family was in “Annus Horrilibus” but none of us caused something this tragic… You put things in perspective for me.
Please keep us posted. I send you strength to carry on and get healthy, and to heal your heart as well.
Ahahahahaha! Even Sarah’s “bus tour” is fake!
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/sarah-palin-being-jetted-around-evangelical
Why is it that the state government didn’t care that Palin used a private email account for state business?
In my organization, you would NEVER use private email accounts for business. The business email accounts have much higher security and safeguards against hacking. No one would even think of using a private email account for business purposes.
It’s amazing to me that they don’t care. It’s also amazing that they didn’t care that Todd was being copied on state business. He was NOT an elected official, so I would think the citizens would be upset over that one.
Can you imagine Palin in the White House copying Todd on high security issues so he could forward them to his buddies in the AIP?
Blows my mind why all of this was tolerated.
37 sandra in oregon Says: November 27th, 2009 at 9:28 AM
If she were partially normal, she wouldn’t have exposed the children to all that commotion.
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If she were partially normal, she would not have worn an orange t-shirt with an entourage wearing t-shirts containing her likeness. Frankly, she was looking for attention. That she veered off-course prior to the finish because of some claim of too much attention simply doesn’t wash.
Still, her presence might bring additional runners to the Red Cross event and that is a big plus regardless of doofussly she may have acted.
HOOTERS:
Palin was asked earlier in the week about the possibility of a Palin/Beck 2012 ticket. Her response:
“He probably thought it was just a hoot too. I don’t know, we’ll see.”
She added: “But Glenn Beck I have great respect for. He’s a hoot.”
Beck apparently is a wee bit sensitive about being referred to as a “hoot.” I suspect that since he takes himself so seriously….and he’s hooted at by most people as being a joke that Palin’s hooting got the better of him. His response:
BECK: I don’t think things are hoots. I don’t. I don’t think it’s a hoot. I would never use the word hoot, and I respectfully ask that every time my name is brought up she would stop using the word ‘hoot.’ [...]
No, no I’m just saying — Beck-Palin, I’ll consider. But Palin-Beck — can you imagine, can you imagine what an administration with the two of us would be like? What? Come on! She’d be yapping or something, and I’d say, “I’m sorry, why am I hearing your voice? I’m not in the kitchen.”
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Meoooooww! What a subtext here! The alley cats are caterwauling again, Papa. Throw a shoe at them…
Thanks for the hoot of a link, A fan from Ca #21
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/26/beck-rules-out-2012-run-w_n_371728.html
Here’s a good Sarah-Toon:
http://tinyurl.com/yk56a99
Here is a story about a dedicated mother who is making a difference in the life of her brilliant, but disabled son: (Warning – may be a tearjerker!)
http://tinyurl.com/ycceuk3
Just found this blog, written by a retired UCLA professor of Anthropology….
http://morialekafa.blogspot.com/2009/11/silly-sarah-idiots-delight.html
http://morialekafa.blogspot.com/2009/11/dumber-than-dumb.html
Dreamgirl, I’m sending positive vibes and prayers your way weather you believe or not and I agree see someone for a second opinion.Take care of your self.I know how hard it is to ask for help but sometimes you just have to do it.
((((((((dreamgirl))))))))) keep your chin up..wer’e here for ya..
dreamgirl,
thinking of you today and remembering you in my prayers. I hope you can hear the voice of love from the commenters here urging you to seek medical care immediately. I’m wondering about those who diagnosed the C2 fracture – did they not start you on a process of continued care? Why were you not kept at a medical facility? If you left on your own, please return, as you may need more help than you can diagnose for yourself.