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		<title>By: jojobo1</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/29/open-thread-53/#comment-153681</link>
		<dc:creator>jojobo1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG I think you are right.I also think that the teabaggers are why there is a rise in violence around the country. People are being told not to hold back and it  brings out maybe the wrong type of people like what happened at Fort Hood. People are being told it is alright.,by these far right religious people like palin.To take a life in the name of God like the shooter did in the Dr Tiller case.It&#039;s alright because he ,she, they are killing others. 
About the link about possible charges and palins avoidance of being served.During the primaries Ms Clinton did the same thing.no one could get near her to serve papers because of her guards and she would not let her attorney accept  service for her. I believe it was in LA.I lost interest when she lost so have no Idea what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG I think you are right.I also think that the teabaggers are why there is a rise in violence around the country. People are being told not to hold back and it  brings out maybe the wrong type of people like what happened at Fort Hood. People are being told it is alright.,by these far right religious people like palin.To take a life in the name of God like the shooter did in the Dr Tiller case.It&#8217;s alright because he ,she, they are killing others.<br />
About the link about possible charges and palins avoidance of being served.During the primaries Ms Clinton did the same thing.no one could get near her to serve papers because of her guards and she would not let her attorney accept  service for her. I believe it was in LA.I lost interest when she lost so have no Idea what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: OMG</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/29/open-thread-53/#comment-153448</link>
		<dc:creator>OMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin will get media attention where ever she goes (sadly enough) so a well attended protest against her would help balance the (un)balanced coverage she so easily garners these days.  I think the picture used to announce this thread would make a perfect poster!  The tea parties nut cases are pictured constantly  in media reports, thus their movement is gaining momentum.  It&#039;s time to use their tactics against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin will get media attention where ever she goes (sadly enough) so a well attended protest against her would help balance the (un)balanced coverage she so easily garners these days.  I think the picture used to announce this thread would make a perfect poster!  The tea parties nut cases are pictured constantly  in media reports, thus their movement is gaining momentum.  It&#8217;s time to use their tactics against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/29/open-thread-53/#comment-153426</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 04:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks 85 GreatGranny2C and 94 Co almost native for the suggestions and letters. 

I am going to call the hotel this week to let them know why this group offends me. The hotel does not depend on locals for business, but I can&#039;t help but think they would not want to be associated with a group that calls for revolution and has been shown to use offensive tactics. I can&#039;t figure out why they would risk being linked  with some of the scenes we saw from the rally on Washington. I want them to be aware of the controversial nature of this group.   
 
 Some of the progressive communities/groups here have been circulating emails to get ideas about how to respond.  I seem to be the only one who has expressed the desire to call out the Opryland Hotel &amp; Convention Center for hosting this event. I thought I would ask some of you if you thought it was fair to contact the venue to let them know why people are unhappy about their hosting this event.

 There is talk about a protest during the event. If there is a protest, I will be there. Others are suggesting our own event several days later for the purpose of attracting media attention to another view of the issues. Some are opposed to giving Palin any additional media attention. 

 I guess I am just upset that Nashville is considered a friendly place for their event. Palin will be here early in February for this ($545. ticket event) and again ( I heard) at the end of February for the Christian Broadcasting Conference.   

I wish I could take a vacation for the month of February.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks 85 GreatGranny2C and 94 Co almost native for the suggestions and letters. </p>
<p>I am going to call the hotel this week to let them know why this group offends me. The hotel does not depend on locals for business, but I can&#8217;t help but think they would not want to be associated with a group that calls for revolution and has been shown to use offensive tactics. I can&#8217;t figure out why they would risk being linked  with some of the scenes we saw from the rally on Washington. I want them to be aware of the controversial nature of this group.   </p>
<p> Some of the progressive communities/groups here have been circulating emails to get ideas about how to respond.  I seem to be the only one who has expressed the desire to call out the Opryland Hotel &amp; Convention Center for hosting this event. I thought I would ask some of you if you thought it was fair to contact the venue to let them know why people are unhappy about their hosting this event.</p>
<p> There is talk about a protest during the event. If there is a protest, I will be there. Others are suggesting our own event several days later for the purpose of attracting media attention to another view of the issues. Some are opposed to giving Palin any additional media attention. </p>
<p> I guess I am just upset that Nashville is considered a friendly place for their event. Palin will be here early in February for this ($545. ticket event) and again ( I heard) at the end of February for the Christian Broadcasting Conference.   </p>
<p>I wish I could take a vacation for the month of February.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/29/open-thread-53/#comment-153419</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone for the other links.

It&#039;s clear that many bloggers have kept excellent records of Palin&#039;s ethical problems. There&#039;s no chance that she&#039;ll be able to count on people forgetting her &quot;going rogue with ethics&quot; up in Alaska. If Palin does run for further office, it will be important to revisit the historical record.....because we know what Palin does with her &quot;memory&quot; of history. Hopefully, though, she&#039;ll be in a courtroom spending her new found wealth on defense lawyers before that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone for the other links.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that many bloggers have kept excellent records of Palin&#8217;s ethical problems. There&#8217;s no chance that she&#8217;ll be able to count on people forgetting her &#8220;going rogue with ethics&#8221; up in Alaska. If Palin does run for further office, it will be important to revisit the historical record&#8230;..because we know what Palin does with her &#8220;memory&#8221; of history. Hopefully, though, she&#8217;ll be in a courtroom spending her new found wealth on defense lawyers before that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Martha # 86

&quot;Due to the convoluted and bizarre Personnel Board guidelines. the public does not necessarily get any information except in rare circumstances. The Board has not followed their own guidelines properly anyway – they have fudged, lied and struck out at everyone else (just like Palin).&quot;
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So true! Because of the secrecy involved with the Personnel Board, some of Palin&#039;s &quot;dismissed&quot; ethics complaints may have been settled without the public knowing. As far as I&#039;m concerned, &quot;settling&quot; and &quot;dismissing&quot; have two different meanings, ethically speaking. 

After the leaked information about the AFT, nothing more substantial seems to be known about it.

@ Lori #92......I wonder what the status is on that case. It does sound like the plaintiffs have the evidence to prove their case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Martha # 86</p>
<p>&#8220;Due to the convoluted and bizarre Personnel Board guidelines. the public does not necessarily get any information except in rare circumstances. The Board has not followed their own guidelines properly anyway – they have fudged, lied and struck out at everyone else (just like Palin).&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
So true! Because of the secrecy involved with the Personnel Board, some of Palin&#8217;s &#8220;dismissed&#8221; ethics complaints may have been settled without the public knowing. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, &#8220;settling&#8221; and &#8220;dismissing&#8221; have two different meanings, ethically speaking. </p>
<p>After the leaked information about the AFT, nothing more substantial seems to be known about it.</p>
<p>@ Lori #92&#8230;&#8230;I wonder what the status is on that case. It does sound like the plaintiffs have the evidence to prove their case.</p>
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		<title>By: LiladyNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiladyNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lee 323

If you go to the palingates.com site they list all the &quot;gates&quot;.  Celtic Diva has lots of information on the ethics complaints too.

http://www.divasblueoasis.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lee 323</p>
<p>If you go to the palingates.com site they list all the &#8220;gates&#8221;.  Celtic Diva has lots of information on the ethics complaints too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.divasblueoasis.com/">http://www.divasblueoasis.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: CO almost native</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/29/open-thread-53/#comment-153412</link>
		<dc:creator>CO almost native</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Laurie (74):

I would encourage a writing campaign to- Opryland Hotel and Nashville Convention Center, right?  I am getting ready to pen letters to both, once I have the correct facts:  I will not be coming to Nashville for a vacation and/or convention anytime soon, as the city and Opryland Hotel are hosting a meeting of Teabaggers, members who encourage violence and acts against our federal government and President.  In serious times like these, our country needs to unite, not espouse hatred. Teabaggers encourage unconstitutional acts and spread lies about President Obama, which have led directly to an increase of threats against his Office.  I am disappointed that Nashville would encourage this type of group.

If I can find a list of groups also planning on meeting in Nashville in 2010, I will write to those also. too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Laurie (74):</p>
<p>I would encourage a writing campaign to- Opryland Hotel and Nashville Convention Center, right?  I am getting ready to pen letters to both, once I have the correct facts:  I will not be coming to Nashville for a vacation and/or convention anytime soon, as the city and Opryland Hotel are hosting a meeting of Teabaggers, members who encourage violence and acts against our federal government and President.  In serious times like these, our country needs to unite, not espouse hatred. Teabaggers encourage unconstitutional acts and spread lies about President Obama, which have led directly to an increase of threats against his Office.  I am disappointed that Nashville would encourage this type of group.</p>
<p>If I can find a list of groups also planning on meeting in Nashville in 2010, I will write to those also. too.</p>
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		<title>By: KateinCanada</title>
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		<dc:creator>KateinCanada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee 323- I think the Arctic Cat complaint recently failed- Check Celtic Diva&#039;s site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee 323- I think the Arctic Cat complaint recently failed- Check Celtic Diva&#8217;s site.</p>
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		<title>By: lori in los angeles</title>
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		<dc:creator>lori in los angeles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee - You may want to re-visit this pending case (and the BRIBERY charge) added to it:

http://threebrain.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-there-felony-conviction-in-sarahs.html

I do not know the status of the case, but this one is BIG - FELONY! I highly suggest reading the comments that follow the article (if you have not seen them as yet).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee &#8211; You may want to re-visit this pending case (and the BRIBERY charge) added to it:</p>
<p><a href="http://threebrain.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-there-felony-conviction-in-sarahs.html">http://threebrain.blogspot.com/2009/08/is-there-felony-conviction-in-sarahs.html</a></p>
<p>I do not know the status of the case, but this one is BIG &#8211; FELONY! I highly suggest reading the comments that follow the article (if you have not seen them as yet).</p>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/29/open-thread-53/#comment-153409</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin is counting on time to dim the memory of her ethical problems and their disposition. 

The internet archives won&#039;t let her....and neither will we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin is counting on time to dim the memory of her ethical problems and their disposition. </p>
<p>The internet archives won&#8217;t let her&#8230;.and neither will we.</p>
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