Women still don’t get it. The old line comes to mind, “Don’t you know what causes that?” When a human egg (get it? HUMAN egg) is fertilized, it instantly receives the DNA that will determine the baby’s hair and eye color, facial features, height, skin color, etc. Right at that moment, it certainly is a human being, i.e., a person. There never has been another like it and there never will be again. It is 100% unique. It is not ideology but science that human life begins at conception, and there is no other logical basis for personhood than being a member of the human race.

As far as the government intrusion into our lives argument goes, it is so weak I can hardly believe anyone would use it. Consider the role and rules of government as laid out in the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and its amendments. Those documents do not support government-run schools and government-run health care, but they do affirm that protection of human life as paramount. The protection of the right to life is primary and human life is not to be taken without due process of law.
After all, 50,000,000 destroyed unborn human beings can’t be wrong.
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Thank you for the biology lesson Scott! Here’s another one for you:

When a monkey egg (get it? MONKEY egg) is fertilized, it instantly receives the DNA that will determine the baby monkey’s hair and eye color, facial features, height, fur color, etc. Right at that moment, it certainly is a monkey, i.e., a primate. There never has been another like it and there never will be again. It is 100% unique. It is not ideology but science that monkey life begins at conception, and there is no other logical basis for monkeyhood than being a member of the primate race.

Ready to protect the monkey zygote/embryo/fetus Mr. Evans?

How about this biology lesson Mr. Evans: During gestation, at whatever stage you wish to discuss, the “human” as it were is attached to it’s mother by the placenta, the umbilical cord. At no time during gestation is the placenta NOT attached to the “human”. The “human” within the womb of its mother is a parasite feeding from her and dependent upon her for it’s survival. There is no “life” for this parasite while it remains in its host. The “human” is “alive” only in the sense that its “host” is alive, in the sense that the heart or liver or a cancer is “alive”. If the host/mother dies, the fetus dies. Until that “human” is able to survive independent of its “host” it is not “alive”.

I believe that, as a woman who has borne children, my biology trumps yours, sir!

Of course, his argument fails on every level, but that takes second place to him controlling a women’s bodies.

Scott – I just plucked a hair from my head. At the end of the hair is a small clump of cells that contain the DNA for a 100% unique human person that contains instructions for hair & eye color, facial features, , height potential, etc. etc. Opps – I just killed those cells. Of course, those cells have no nervous system, no fuctioning brain, no self-awareness; but then neither does a fertilized egg.

Science says that life is approximately 3.5 billion years old and has been a continuous process since then. The earthworm you stepped on this morning is just as alive as a fertilized egg, which is just as alive as the cancer cells in the tumour that the surgeons took out of my mother-in-law’s head a couple of years ago.

The logical point to define personhood is self-awareness, not possession of human DNA – at least if you don’t want to arrest every oncologist in the state. We have a history of defining personhood with the presence of higher brain functions why shouldn’t we just stick with something that works pretty well.

Then also, no person has the right to use someone else’s body for life support. Or should Scott be legally required to provide a kidney to anyone with total renal failure who would match him?

Now, I don’t know Scott’s positions on anyting other than what he says here, so I’m not going to claim that he personally holds this opinion; but have you noticed that most of the people who are firmly anti-abortion don’t seem to have a problem with going to war? “Abortion is an abomination, but if an Iraqi kid happens to get in the way of one of our bombs, it is an unfortunate happening that really shouldn’t affect our foreign policy” .

Of course, Scott did give us an opening to criticize his hypocrisy. Government run health care saves lives. Countries with a strong government run system have better outcomes in all respects – longer lives, much lower rates of infant deaths, lower costs. They even have a lower instance of spontaneous abortions; yet Scott believes this to be beyond the role of the government. Please tell me, Scott, why the destruction of clumps of cells with no brain function is a horror, but the death of 45,000 actual people a year due to a lack of health care just the cost of doing business. That is just about a 9/11 every month, and you are telling me that it isn’t the government’s role to do anything about it? The stupid is strong in this one.

Of course, he would also be a hypocrite if he is not lobbying to end the greatest killer of our day – the fact that between 3/4 & 2/3s of all fertilized eggs fail to implant. Scott – don’t you feel anything for your 2-3 siblings that never had a chance to even start to develop? You are indeed a heartless bastard

So Scott, hate abortion all you want. Nobody is going to insist that you have one. I’m not going to let you poke your nose into my wife’s vaginia just to satisfy your hate.

Just a bit of personal history – my wife’s family is not particularly blessed when it comes to child bearing. Her mom was knowingly pregnant 6 times, brought three pregnancies to term; lost her second child after 3 days, and the only reason why her third child survived was that the hospital’s NICU opened that very day – if my brother-in-law came 24 hours earlier, they would have lost him. This proposed law would have required her to go through four manslaughter investigations. An argument could be made that she was guilty of reckless endangerment for even trying to continue to have children after the first spontaneous abortion. And that’s not even counting any that aborted before she knew she was pregnant. Does every menstral flow need to be examined under a microscope to determine if the egg was fertilized or not? Do we need to pass laws making it illegal for women to drink or smoke or engage in any risky behavior between puberty and menopause because we must think of the (potential) children?

What is “the single cell embryo”? If they mean a zygote – the fertilised egg before it implants – HOW will they establish this? There’s no test for the moment of conception. The hormones of pregnancy don’t start until the zygote implants, which is days, if not weeks, after conception. Off-the-shelf early pregnancy tests can’t detect anything until the hormones are produced in large enough numbers to register, which for some women is four – six weeks after conception. Blood tests are more accurate in the earliest stages. Is the government going to mandate pregnancy tests every time a woman is a week or two late?? Will there be multiple tests to make sure it’s not a false negative?

And if there is a pregnancy that “spontaneously aborts” – miscarries – which is not unusual in the first 12 weeks, what happens? Medical investigation? Criminal investigation? Will women need to keep all used sanitary products for evidence? Diaries of every activity, food, beverage, etc??

Seems very stressful… and stress can cause miscarriage, right??

Seriously, how many female “pro-lifers” really support this?

As far as the government intrusion into our lives argument goes, it is so weak I can hardly believe anyone would use it. Consider the role and rules of government as laid out in the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution and its amendments. Those documents do not support government-run schools and government-run health care, but they do affirm that protection of human life as paramount. The protection of the right to life is primary and human life is not to be taken without due process of law.
After all, 50,000,000 destroyed unborn human beings can’t be wrong.