Aloha? Oy! Palin Has Problems With Hawaiian Minorities?
The New Yorker had a very interesting article today that points out another little gaffe from Sarah Palin’s father, Chuck Heath. This time he points out that her brief stint at the University of Hawaii may have had another cause, beside Palin’s complaint of it being “a little too perfect.” He spoke to Shushannah Walshe and Scott Conroy for their book “Sarah from Alaska.”
Palin, though notoriously ill-travelled outside the United States, did journey far to the first of the four colleges she attended, in Hawaii. She and a friend who went with her lasted only one semester. “Hawaii was a little too perfect,” Palin writes. “Perpetual sunshine isn’t necessarily conducive to serious academics for eighteen-year-old Alaska girls.” Perhaps not. But Palin’s father, Chuck Heath, gave a different account to Conroy and Walshe. According to him, the presence of so many Asians and Pacific Islanders made her uncomfortable: “They were a minority type thing and it wasn’t glamorous, so she came home.” In any case, Palin reports that she much preferred her last stop, the University of Idaho, “because it was much like Alaska yet still ‘Outside.’ ”
Oh, those dang “minority type things”… they’re so not glamorous. (Hmmm. I wonder how native Hawaiians felt when minority types decided to show up and take over their islands, to introduce all that ”glamour.” ) At least the Asians paid six figures to have her come speak to them for 90 minutes. So maybe they have been forgiven.
In a delightful bit of poetic karma, we note that she was kept out of national office by one of those very Hawaiian minority type things that make her so uncomfortable.
Two things: 1) I know now where SP gets her ability to put foot in mouth publicly – she inherited it from her father. 2) That maybe explains her neglect of the folks in Western AK – their ancestors crossed over the land bridge from Asia after all!
Dang , Sarah is one dumbass racist.
AKM – the categories for this post is perfect: ” Head bangery, Numbskullery, Sarah Palin, Whackjobbery, You can’t make this stuff up.”
I just want to bang my head on my desk every time one of the Whack Job’s Entourage speaks publicly. That man was a school teacher? Very scary.
Will there ever be an end to the media frenzy?
Mr. Heath is also on record describing President Obama’s war policies as “scary”. WTF! I guess the apple really does not fall far from the tree.
On another note, Senator McCain was very smug about people declaring SP irrelevant but giving her so much attention. I say yes shine the spotlight on that dangerous woman. Expose her, so that she does not blindside this country with her dangerous philosophies.
Minority types my ass! I am so sick of SP and her ilk. I bet SP has autographed no more than 10 books for a person of color. These outings have been so monochromatic it is sickening. Mr. Heath, I have news for you, us minority types are here to stay, hell, even AK’s natives are minority types. Folks, I better stop, this new revelation has really rankled me.
I just don’t get what people admire about her…
Maybe one of his grandchildren can write a book someday, My Grandfather was a Racist…I wonder what he felt about the Oprah interview…what a creepy and strange narcissistic way for him to continue to behave. A real piece of work.
It is obvious the crazy doesn’t fall far from the tree…and that it sprouts the same kind of nuts, also too.
Yep, she has problems with anyone who doesn’t think like she does but also, too, she does seem quite uncomfortable with other races. Just look at her book tour (campaign), you see a sea of white faces, no one of color. As for the Hong Kong speech she doesn’t object to taking money from Asians. She just doesn’t want to live with them. What a joke and hypocrite in addition to being a #1 LIAR.
an ill-planned jaunt to hawaii in search of what? boys? beaches? a coconut plantation? and all she got was rain and a minority status……then found an island where she didn’t like the sunny skies cause it kept her from studying ? so she goes to some nondescript school in idaho? really?
another wild ride that makes no sense.
Palin for President.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1y9s73Nos
It is nothing aginst Idaho, but glamerous is not what first adjative that comes to mind.
So what was the problem with the two universities that came in between too much sunshine and glamerous lily white Idaho?
Daughter of Chucky- the sequel.
Wow…I guess I should have known she was an ignorant racist (emphasis on ignorant), but seeing her dad’s statement in print just disgusts me to know end. I’m left speechless.
I’ve read Heath’s quote several times, and I think maybe what he meant was that Sarah and her bud suddenly found their white selves in the minority — something they surely weren’t used to in white washed Wasilla. Idaho, Iowa — white white white (and lots of fair-skinned blondes to boot). Sounds as if she slammed shut that open door inviting her to experience ethnic diversity and racial minority status.
And causes me to misspell words. Jeez
Glad to see this story is getting legs “runners legs” at that.
I bet SP spends little time with Todd’s side of the family, being they are natives, and all.
Is Sarah Palin a racist?
Interesting article about Sarah Palin written about a year ago. Must read. Please send it to everyone you know.
http://www.phillyimc.org/en/node/76770
she didn’t have a problem with Hawaiian minorities…she had a problem BEING a minority in Hawaii!
Keep on talking, Chuckles.
I’m a little confused about who Heath was calling “a minority.”
It sounds like he was saying that the Alaskan girls found themselves to be minorities and it wasn’t “glamorous.”
Either way, it shows S’arah Palin to one again be a small minded, undisciplined, unappreciative, spoiled NOT WORKING CLASS person.
My dad was a janitor after 30 years in the military and having dropped out of 8th grade as a farm boy and my mom was a stay-at-home mom with a high school diploma. I am the first person on either side of my family to go to college. That’s Working Class. Palin hasn’t got a flippin’ clue what it’s like to actually work for a living or come from a family that does.
AKM’s been oyster diving again and digging up pearls. O.M.G. Telling it like it is.
It’s clear she’s not resting on her Muckraker of the Year laurels. Just keeps on diggin’ and divin’.
Wow, look at the faces of the patriotic troops standing behind Obama. I see many shades of brown there, also too. Wonder if she knows that many of the troops that she so frequently shouts out to are minorities also? Wonder if the bases only trot out the lily white troops when the Gover visits as she might be too traumatized at the minority presence if they let them, good brown or mocha or asian Americans visit the Gover’s book signings on the bases?
Perhaps the “minority” members of our American military don’t actually wish to be present at the Gover’s book signings. That would probably explain it. They know a racist when they see one and decide to do other things rather than honor her with their presence.
yes, where did her bravery go? why wasn’t she up for this new adventure Chuck? was it because you limited her brain to outdoor adventures and not social?
Chucky and Sally kind of put me off. Chuck keeps saying different things, in NV his says his “family” is for, backs, understands and believes in the Republican they endorse. That’s fine. But how can he say that, if his family have not communicated and discussed this politician or politics in general.
He says over and over, Scarah and he NEVER talk politics, no siree, they only talk about family, sports, hunting and fishing. Does Chuck really expect people to believe this? Really? When he’s traveling on the Presidential campaign and now book bus, flying all over for weeks and months together? Does he really expect people to think there is no discussion going on between family members?
And Sally, she says lame things too, that she expects people to believe. Chuck was given a Scarah book Nov. 14th, Sally just yesterday laughed and said they haven’t given her one yet, that she hasn’t seen the book yet. Really? lol, she expects people to believe that. There’s no book on the bus.
So no, they lie, tell half truths or stretch the truth, just like Scarah, probably parroting what Scarah has instructed them to say. If what Scarah said in her book is true, about how her dad helped her avoid obligations, her parents may have taught her this was okay and appropriate. I don’t know.
But again, it raises red flags about her honesty in government and those pesky ethics complaints that were so conveniently dismissed and labeled frivolous. Facts, truth, he said, she said, rules, laws, regulations…..they’re all bendable to her and she doesn’t seem to think it matters.
I don’t know about her fans, but she is not like me, is that like them? would they do that sort of thing?
http://www.ketknbc.com/news/palins-father-the-record (nov. 17th, 09)
“I can honestly say I have no idea what her plan is,” Mr. Heath said. “When I’m with Sarah we don’t talk politics, we talk family, sports, hunting and fishing.”
I lived most of my life in Hawaii, married a Japanese American born in Hawaii, both my sons were born there. I noticed, even back in my teen years (a very long time ago) that Caucasians were just one of the many minorities in Hawaii. I loved it! Maybe because I’m mixed race. I also noticed that many Caucasians felt distinctly uncomfortable about suddenly not being the majority. $P isn’t the first or the last to feel uncomfortable and decide to leave. I managed quite well to earn my BA and my MLS at the University of Hawaii; she’s just making excuses and having her father make more.
Darklady, Jane and R’ipley: I second all of you.
I have a friend who married a Native Hawaiian, moved to Hawaii and was ridiculed as a Haouli (?) (mainlander/outsider) for years. She was miserable there and I would not have stated that she was a racist.
I am trying hard to have an open mind about things these days.
The biggest point to take from all of this is that SP had a chance to feel what it is to be on the other side of the coin and learn something from it. It is not easy, but it can open one’s mind, and heart, to what a great many of people in this country have felt every day of their lives. Too bad that she didn’t learn anything from it. Just quit and ran home to what is comfortable.
Maybe because it’s late, or maybe because I’ve had a rather hard week. But this makes me weep. I’m drawing a deep breath. Sorry, I’m still going to weep.
(((sunnyjane))) I will share kleenex. I had a hard week too.
She shows no respect or care for Alaskan natives. She is probably completely clueless she is a bigoted racist. Wake up Scarah, it’s not just about you. People are people. Oh this woman drives me crazy!
Yes, where is that Juneteenth lawsuit? the one with bribery charges against Scarah added to it.
Anybody know what’s happening with it?
Thanks, Love My Dogs. By the way, I love MY dogs too. One miniature Schnauser and one Welsh terrier. But even they cannot keep me from weeping. Great sigh.
A personal note, as if anyone cares. I’m having lunch tomorrow with my best friend of 31 years. We live one hundred miles away from each other, but have VOWED to meet once a month to support our friendship. By the way, she is black and I am white. That is why I weep — I guess.
The Audacity of Hypocrisy!!
So so ‘proud’ of blond/blue-eyed Todd being part Native…..yet too many Natives is, well, just too uncomfortable. I mean, do they HAVE to look like, well, Asians????
We now know for sure what she meant by ‘Real Amerikkka’…..!
What? No Bobby Darren or Sandra Dee playing beach ball and bingo on the beach? No luaus with bare chested fire swinging natives and maitai’s on the dorm menu? Damn. Not glamorous from a gal from beautiful downtown Wasilla…..
for a gal from…
22 say no
Do you remember after Sarah joined the McCain campaign good old Dad said “We’re not sure what they want from her and what she offers them” (loosely quoted)???
Askhee @9 – If ONLY !! I would vote for “that” Palin, 10fold over the S’error choice. ( and h#ll , I’d vote for the Monty Python ” dead parrot” or “killer rabbit” over $P !)
Tula @17 – I had entirely forgotten about that bit of video ! I now remember reading it back in the fall of ’08. Thanks for reminding me.
Say NO @28 – That Juneteenth proclamation thing is so weird, isn’t it? I mean, even if she is carrying around racist nonsense internally, you’d think that, as Governor, she’d just go ahead and fake it – especially after having been called on it. That’s one of the more bizarre $P actions, IMO.
chuckles heath. OY freaking vay. chuckie…shut the puck up!
Sarah’s gonna have to muzzle the old fool.
What a bizarre tribe.
I guess they did NOT watch Hawaii 5-0 as a family…..too bad.
Does anybody have any ideas about where hubby and i can move to that has a separation of church and state? Freedom of religion? Equal rights?
It’s starting to not feel that way in America.
On a sort-of related note, I read that POTUS and family are going back to Hawaii again for X-mas. Anyone else looking forward to all the geat pics?!?!?
Chuck, between you and your daughter, you make white trash look good. =) And smart also too.
I graduated from the U. of Idaho in 1982. I’d have said Moscow and Wasilla didn’t have much in common except for this: very, very few nonwhite faces.
She probably was never exposed to the intelligence of these people at her college.
She learnt they where intellectually superior to her,and that is what she couldn’t cope with .
They showed her up like your President did.
Ignorance on her part.
Given the opportunity Asians work so hard on their education come sunshune or rain.
Tina in Tennessee, I dunno..Maybe one of those elitist states, like Hollywood or NYC, or Key West! I am a fearin’ that we are on the brink of an Amerikan religious civil war. My God or nothing. Luckily I have an attack cat and a lick bull for protection. Heaven help the fool that violates my 1/4 acre of suburban sanctuary.
sunshine LOL
White trash racism in politics – the gift that just keeps on giving.
bachmann/palin overdrive 2012.
yes we can-can!
I can just see Chuck Heath with an angry worried look on his face, just like the teabaggers of the summer saying “I want my country back!”
I don’t know if Palin has problems with minorities, but her former Lite Gov. Parnell didn’t seem to want to touch Obama with a 10-foot-pole when our President was in Anchorage recently . . .
@jwa – I got a kick out of the teabaggers saying “I want my country back!” also too. I bet the native Americans and the natives in Alaska also too want their country back!
Interesting comment on Sarah’s reality in this article.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/12/quote-for-the-day-ii-1.html#more
deist, my Gov has the same problem. When Pres. Obama visited recently FL gov/senator Crist said he didnt know the POTUS was gonna be in the state. Subsequent FOIA requests proved that to be BS. His legendary stimulus hug with Pres. Obama is not sitting well with the local GOP’ers…
First of all – it makes no sense at ALL that an 18 year old college girl would COMPLAIN about too much sunshine. That’s the problem with Palin’s lies – she honestly believes us to be as stupid as she obviously is. The statement in the book doesn’t ring true. No sane 18 year old college girl is going to complain about going to school in Hawaii. I grew up in Sydney and the school I went to, there were 4 or 5 beaches close by. I never had a problem with it. The only problem I had was fitting it beach and sun time with my classes – something had to GIVE!
So….Chuck Heath’s comment is much more plausible and honestly, does not surprise me one iota.
Keep it up Sarah – my list of why I will never ever vote for you for anything resembling public office grows longer.
P.S. As an Asian, I just want to say that the Univ of Idaho can KEEP Sarah Palin.
Sarah racist? I’m stunned, stunned I tell ya!! What’s the world coming to? Land sakes!
I’m also guessing that the Semi-gov was put on academic probation.
Speaking of minorities. I just got out of a taxi coming back from the airport. My driver is from India but is now an American. He was so proud that President Obama just just had dinner with the leader of India, is so proud of the job that Obama is doing in this country. He said, things are getting better and President Obama is doing a great job!!!!!!!!
Keep in mind folks, these are “real American’s” who believe that he is doing a good job. It seems that in Palin’s world, American’s don’t have brown skin….of any kind.
And oh – for any sane person to believe Sarah Palin’s “Hawaii was TOO perfect for my very super serious academic inclinations at 18 years of age” comment – that person would have to believe that:
1. Sarah Palin was and is a serious academic (HA!)
2. Sarah Palin knows what the word “conducive” means (HA!) and
3. An 18 year old Sarah Palin was so mature and super serious that she left the University where she could go to school AND work on her tan each and every day so that she could go to super serious IDAHO. (HA!)
As you can see – it would take a Herculean feat of reality-defying mental gymnastics for ANYONE with half a brain and a shred of sanity to believe that pile of…..well, you know.
“Perpetual sunshine isn’t necessarily conducive to serious academics”.
Serious? Are we to believe that she was a serious student? If so, she is dumber than I thought. It took her all those years to finish and she was “serious” about her academics?
Gee, would she still be in school if hadn’t been “serious” about it?
i not only want my country back. i want my forty acres {preferably midtown manhattan. fifth ave between 75 and 50 streets} and my mule…bubs
Hi aussiegal.
from another Aussie
“Perpetual sunshine isn’t necessarily conducive to serious academics”.
Actually, I took this as an ironic statement (does Scarah understand irony?) She wasn’t (and isn’t) interested in the life of the mind. I’m guessing she wasn’t going to class, got on academic probation and Daddy said I ain’t payin’ good money to send you to the beach. Get on the next plane north.
# 13 Jane in NC –
I take exception to your comment about Iowa.
Have you ever been to Des Moines or Iowa City or Ames?
Very racially and ethnically diverse.
I grew up there, and got my undergrad and graduate degrees there.
Iowa is one of the most educated and open-minded states in the union.
There are also many many immigrants in Iowa, as Iowans are welcoming and accepting.
Please do not stereotype Iowa.
If one looks only at certain places in Alaska, we look very white, too, and I do not mean snow.
Sad that Chuck Heath has been a teacher, with attitudes like that. Scary, too, also.
Oh yeah, one more little tidbit I discovered today….Palin’s older brother Chuck Jr. was at Idaho the same time. No wonder she ended up “graduating” there.
I always wondered why she didn’t stay in Hawaii. And now we know. If you read between the lines of Sarah and her father, it comes out to “I didn’t study because I was at the beach” and “I didn’t like being the minority and all that beach time didn’t do my hair any favors, so I didn’t look like a beauty queen all the time.”
We may not have to wait for Sarah to scuttle her political chances; it seems more and more that her dad might do it for her. I don’t like his attitude about a lot of things, but he does seem to tell the truth, even when it’s ugly. Way to go, Chuck.
FWIW, I share the interpretation that QP couldn’t handle being part of a minority (and not glamorous). Now, this is unquestionably related to being uncomfortable with folks who are not just like you; but I’d give a little culture-shock slack to a high-school graduate who grew up in Alaska and was dropped into a very multi-ethnic environment.
OTOH, QP is no longer a teen-aged high-school graduate, but an aspirant to “higher calling”. It appears that her middle-aged reaction to the American multi-ethnic environment is to stay as far away from it as possible, to label it “not-real-America”, and – as far as possible — pretend that it doesn’t exist. I give no slack for that. And apparently her brief experience as a minority did not engender any noticeable sensitivity or sympathy for those who are in the minority in the broader American society.
Over the moon…….no, I don’t remember that comment, but it sounds about right, lol. Hell, just a month before Scarah stupidly joked about not knowing what the VP did. Her parents said they knew she was on the long list, but were completely surprised that she actually was chosen. Scarah herself didn’t even call or tell them, it was one of her sisters, I think Molly in TX.
It totally shows how she was ‘plucked’ at the last minute for show. That risk taking Maverick McCain. Did you see how he laughed this morning on meet the press when questioned about Scarah? ooooweee, Scarah daggers comin his way soon.
I think Scarah is using her parents as props, also, too. It works for her, don’tchya know.
Sarah’s definition of glamorous is “whites only”?
Papa Heath being thrown under the SP bus in 3… 2… 1…
It’s almost beside the point whether Chuck was referring to Palin being uncomfortable as a minority or being uncomfortable with “minorities.” In both instances, there is an implied rigidity, at best, and racism, at worst, which originate from upbringing and training. Yep….look in the mirror, Chuck.
My children were brought up in a small town in a very red state. My late spouse and I taught them from the time they were toddlers to celebrate the variety in people and cultures. My oldest studied abroad in Spain for a semester and considers it the zenith of her life. Both of my children have friends of color, as well as gay friends. My younger child can’t wait for her chance to study abroad when she’s in college.
So much for the stereotype of white, small town kids in America, eh? In fact, I don’t think my children are all that unusual. They are the emerging “real Americans.” Chuck Heath and other dinosaurs, including their progeny, are becoming a minority and they’re damned uncomfortable with that fact.
She’s probably paying her parents and kids and using it as a money grubbing/laundering method tied to the AFTrust. I think it was on PalinGates or Bree Palin that I read someone had run into her relatives in the Palm Springs area and the guy said the kids were going to be set for life.
As someone who grew up in CA, let me point out to the brain challenged Palins that there are 4 Pac Ten schools here, plus many more UC schools that continue to win Nobel Prizes in pretty much every category. Including the more party oriented UCSD and UCSB.
Someone just rapture these bozos already.
Thanks for reminding me what town the U. of Idaho is in. Now her foreign policy statements make perfect sense- she could see Moscow from her dorm room!
Um, I am in Alaska and I love my bit of jungle on Hawai’i and whole hardheartedly dislike Idaho (if only for the fact my ex-wife lives there, otherwise a beautiful place)
HOWEVER; I do believe that Hawaii is counter productive to work in the conventional sense. BUT many Scientists, Mormons (BMY has a campus on Oahu), and others have figured a “work” around and manage to get stuff done.
moseyon – hello! are you an Aussie in America??
Miss Demeanor: I lived in Iowa (Quad Cities) for 3 years when I first moved here to America and sadly, really didn’t see that much diversity. But – it was also my first experience of small town America and coming from a large city like Sydney, I though the Quad Cities were a good representation of Small Town USA. Maybe not though…..so I have to say that I agree with your comments. Iowa does get stereotyped unfairly.
Chuck’s great! He just can’t keep quiet and when he speaks….Whoo Hoo!!
Please visit this website and sign the petition. I got this from Bree Palin Blog.
http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/sarahsfullofcrap/
I signed the petiton and you can write a message, also too.
Miss Demeanor Says:
December 6th, 2009 at 5:37 PM
# 13 Jane in NC –
I take exception to your comment about Iowa.
Have you ever been to Des Moines or Iowa City or Ames?
Very racially and ethnically diverse.
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I grew up in the DC area, but lived in Des Moines for about 20 years…until three years ago. I would not say that Des Moines is racially and ethnically diverse. Yes, there are a some minorities. But, travel to the East or West coast or even a larger Midwestern city like St Louis or Kansas City, and Iowa looks like white bread.
I would agree that Des Moines is NOT what people think and is more culturally advanced than most midsize cities. I think people in Iowa THINK it’s diverse but that’s coming from a lot of people who have lived there in Iowa for their entire life.
Hi fellow puppies. I need to vent so please bear with me. I got S’error’s Bible of Lies the day it came out. Don’t worry no one saw me purchase it. I read about 14o pages right away but I was so busy reading AKM’s take on it as well as Shannyn’s, Gyphen’s etc. I so enjoyed how you guys sorted through her Bulls**t. So I put it down for a while.
I drive a cab in NYC. It was quiet this morning so I read another 100 pages of
” I’m so wonderful & humble as well”. Because I have followed Alaskan blogs for over a year now and know what a distorted sense of truth she has going on in her mind. Knowing the real deal vs her version is almost comical.
I’m tired, I’m rambling but here is my point. I was up in The Bronx today for a call, before I got back on the highway I saw a sign posted in Red,White & Blue stating THE BRONX-AN AMERICAN CITY. Actually New York City consists of 5 boroughs, the Bronx being one of them. Any one of our boroughs could be a city in itself full of lots of REAL AMERICANS of every color,religion, nationality and sexual preference.
I’m so f-ing sick of reading & hearing about her real America,Good Americans, patriots blah blah blah…
Then I come home from a 12 hour shift and can’t wait to get to my internets to see what I missed today and lo & behold, this family never disappoints, is Chuck complaining about non Whites around his precious Princess.
Yes Sarah, we come in all colors,shapes and sizes and we are sick of you and your lily white views.
I am white myself but that does not make me any better than my Black SIL or my Puerto Rican SIL….We are all the same, living the American Dream.
So Sister Sarah on behalf of 11 million New Yorkers, I’m sending you a Bronx cheer.
Thanks for listening, like I said I’m tired and needed to vent.
Andrew Sullivan’s quote of the day……Palin’s inner circle quoted as saying “Sarah is the most important person in the world right now”.
Bwhahahahah. Not only are they delusional, but it shows how ignorant they are of the “world”.
Idiots. They need to read a newspaper and catch up on current events. A thousand people at a book signing doesn’t make you the most important person in the world. Lady GaGa had more people that that at her CD signings. Adam Lambert, also too.
Lady GaGa/Adam Lambert 2012.
Has Sarah even proven she attended college classes when she was in Hawaii?
There are no transcripts, no admission records, nada, zip documentation she actually enrolled.
And where is Sarah’s birth certificate?
NYCgirl here again.
S’error my son is on his second tour in Iraq. Is he as much a Patriot as your oldest son Tick ?
I signed the petition and hope many others do too. Thanks to whoever started it.
@68 nswfm — LOL “rapture these bozos already”! Succinctly put, what we all feel!
Do any of you remember a reference in GRogue to $P talking about scuba diving and how to treat a barracuda? It rang false to me at the time and now with this talk of Hawaii I’m reminded of it. I don’t think she has any diving experience…but why would she lie about anything so minor?
Did S’error Palin only attend 4 colleges?? I thought the number was 6 – with two of those being Dropout Universities in Hawaii.
That S’error… she’s been living in her own private Idaho for a long, long time.
She’s living in her own private Idaho
where people of color don’t go
Randy Weaver and Ruby Ridge
S’error Palin’s an annoying midge
wa oo oo oo, wa oo oo oo
living in her own private Idaho
whre the people are white as snow
Ronnie Reagan and his terrorists
S’error Palin’s mind is lost in mists
Living in her own
private
Eye da ho. …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7t7cGwN7_0
norge @ 80 – lying comes easy to some people; she appears to be one of those types. Are there even barracuda in Hawaii? The true water critter, that is.
Sauerkraut
Hahaha…..but I’d rather eye da ho as little as possible.
I’m here in South Dakota for the holidays, and am only 50 miles from where Sarah Palin was today for her latest book signing in Sioux Falls. It was just covered on the 10 PM news, with interviews of people absolutely gushing over her. She headed out of there to go to Minneapolis where she will sign books tomorrow, I think at the Mall of America. Is that finally the end of this “rogue to nowhere” booksigning tour? I am so sick of her that I can hardly stand it. The only good thing about it is that it keeps her busy and possibly prevents her from spewing any more lies in any other forum. Can she please quit this now?!
So, how many times had Scarah left AK before college?
Also, too…..someone should check out her library card, a voracious reader growing up in my day was Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew Mysteries, but I was a good 10 yrs older than Scarah, later Little House on the Praire.
When her family says she always had her nose in a book, well, what type books were they, what were those books?
There were also romance novels, lol, even Christian.
I was under the impression that Sarah went to school in Hilo, Hawaii. It’s on the very rainy side of the Big Island, not in perpetual sunshine.
Palingates has found an interesting obituary in which the deceased person’s kin include their adopted son, Chuck Heath. Could that be the same guy who is Sarah’s father?
If so, I think that it explains much about Chuck saying outlandish things, and Sarah seems to picked up the habit from Dad. As an adopted kid, or someone who was bounced from family to family, Chuck may have been calling out for attention, maybe some affection.
If a child is raised in a family with little affection, that person does not know how to parent. (The classical example is the laboratory monkey raised on a warm fuzzy towel which is no subsitute for a mother’s love and warmth. The moneky raised on the towel did not know how to mother her own child.
I know it’s just a little pop-psychology here, but Sarah does say some of the most outlandish things– whether someone wrote them for her or they just pop into her own head. I am always curious about what makes Sarah tick.
For more psychology, Justin Frank analyzed George W. Bush (Bush on the Couch), without actually ever meeting his subject. It is interesting how things that happen in childhood can shape one’s entire life, unless they do something to break the harmful patterns. Still wondering what went on in Sarah’s childhood to create this need for attention and Sarah’s need to say things can be so easily disproved. Something she learned from Chuck, maybe?? (instead of science).
Sarah, thy name is Mystery
This quote about her either being uncomfortable being in the minority, or being amongst her perception of the minority speaks volumes as to why she chose the cities and venues of her Presidential/Book Jet/Bus tour. Palin can only function in her comfort zone. That involves no “real” press, no questions, no adversity and apparently, no diversity. The RNC boasts what a “big tent” they are building. It baffles me why no one in the GOP will call her out. I think they are just sitting back, waiting to see what she does. If she runs as a Republican or a Third Party, I’m certain they will finally come out and destroy her.
I lived in Hawaii from 62 to 67 as a young child. As a haole, I was a minority and there was prejudice. The white man does not have the best reputation of “live and let live”, so it was quite understandable. However, when I lived there I became tan, went around barefoot everyday, spoke pigeon english, and came to be accepted like a native.
The biggest threat to a community like that is from outsiders who try to impose their way of life on the locals who have lived in harmony with nature and each other for generation after generation. And rightly so. It is a survival instinct.
After all, look what the “haoles” did to this entire continent and how those that were in the land have been displaced and overrun, their land and rights taken from them. The white peoples’ reputation precedes them. History has recorded their abuses. Not too much has changed.
NYCgirl…….I love you!!! Speak out, you do it well girlfriend!……. and thank you. can I give you a hug?
sorry Chucky opened his mouth, (shaking my head), he should be home and away from media soon. Scarah should be publicly flamed, shamed and outcast, seriously. She has NO clue. GAH! there goes my BP again.
Miss Demeanor:
I agree completely with what you said about Iowa. I grew up there and it was in that state that I learned about civil rights and that everyone, regardless of color matters.
Yes, there are cities and towns in Iowa that are mainly ‘white’ but that is not really the point. Iowa has always been a leader in education and progressive views. I can honestly say (and proudly) that I can only remember a handful of people who were truly racist while I lived there.
Iowa is much more than what it is portrayed to be.
Big Slick, lol…..oh so true.
My take is that the runner up beauty queen was not so hot up against the beautiful Hawaian girls,she did not get her share of attention.
From Chuck Heath’s quote..
“it wasn’t glamorous, so she came home”
Yup, Sounds like Sarah.
Seattlefan…….I think the GOP are wigged out by the support shown her, they are a little wary of it, but, like you say, I also think they are holding back to see.
To Say No To Palin…..HUGS back. We are in this together !!
Chuck should be in that Nursing Home with that WW2 vet who lives in Florida but can see the Arizona Memorial from his window.
I posted this thought on another blog but it bears repeating. What if S’error is the smart one out of the family ?
FREE PIPER
Being unable to do her work at school in Hawaii tells us one thing for sure–she had no self control. She couldn’t make herself do what she needed to do.
CA may not be Hawaii, but it has plenty of world class universities in areas where it is beach weather over 300 days a year. Most of those students know how to balance their time. My son, who is in grad school in SoCal hasn’t been to the beach since school started in the fall, and he’s an avid surfer. He just has his priorities straight.
Anyone who says, well she was 18, well so are the freshmen at these schools, and some of them come from AK and other cold states. Most of them manage quite nicely.
And to me her dad’s comments speak to both types of prejudice–she didn’t like being a minority herself, and she was uncomfortable with non whites around. It also sounds like she was offended that they did better in school than she.
In AK she got adulation for all her “accomplishments” in her small town, as well as for her looks etc. In Hawaii, she was a nobody. Talk to people at school the same time she was. Bet nobody remembers her.
aussiegal77:
When you lived in the Quad Cities did you ever see a band called “Bobbie’s Blue Band” or “The Blue Band”? They are my all-time favorite dance band (along with “Monkey Siren from Denver, Co).
The Blue Band evolved from their original name of Little Red Rooster Band,
Great blues, rockabilly and early rock. They also had lots of great original music, and many albums found on Red Schoolhouse Records, I think.
No Toby Keith.
The Blue Band played in the Denver area when I lived there, but I had no luck getting them to play Alaska.
However, there’s great musical talent up here – check out Michael Faubian’s “Paris on the Kuskokwim” and the great Bethel musicians on that album. It rocks.
What if S’error is the smart one out of the family ?
Oh good lord, she’s their step in evolution? ACK! not very far.
Piper leap! JUMP Piper and Trig Jump!
Has Sarah, in fact, graduated college? Seriously?
I know her picture is in the yearbook for Idaho, but those go to press early. I seriously wonder if she did get a degree in anything. Do we have anything but her statement? Because her statement would not be acceptable evidence.
@ trisha #74: Des Moines, Iowa population is 82.3% white. The State of Iowa population overall is 93.9% white.
Found the info at the US Census Bureau website “QuickFacts”.
quickfacts.census.gov
And here’s a thought: Sarah kept such a deep tan while in Hawaii, she was mistaken for a native girl, felt insulted, then left in a huff.
“In a delightful bit of poetic karma, we note that she was kept out of national office by one of those very Hawaiian minority type things that make her so uncomfortable.”
So on point.
The irony is superb.
“They were a minority type thing and it wasn’t glamorous, so she came home.” – Chuck Heath
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Regardless of the specific meaning intended, Mr. Heath’s words are disgraceful. Sarah and her family appear so proud of wrapping themselves with the cloak of patriotism (sometimes literally, as with the U.S. flag). Yet, it’s pure irony that as often as they spew the cheapness of their words, they appear ignorant of the REAL patriotism demonstrated by this “minority type thing”.
Tomorrow/today is Dec. 7 — Pearl Harbor Day. Well before 9/11, we had the images of Pearl Harbor as the most devastating day in American military history. This event was the impetus for the U.S. entering WWII, and “let us never forget” as the popular quote went… but indulge me, while I put a different slant to these words.
What is still somewhat unknown by many or not mentioned enough is the REAL patriotism shown by the U.S. Army’s 442nd Infantry Regiment, a unit composed largely of Asian-Americans, mostly Japanese-Americans (including 3000 volunteers from Hawaii), who trained and eventually fought in Europe during WWII. I wonder if Chuck Heath knows about this “minority type thing” combat team who went on to become THE MOST DECORATED unit in U.S. military history, including 9,486 Purple Hearts and 21 Medals of Honor (the military’s highest decoration). I won’t mention the number who actually gave their lives for their country (the same whose government interned 110,000 of mostly Japanese-American CITIZENS behind barbed wire), but if you’re curious, just Google “442nd Infantry Regiment”, and you’d do well to appreciate more of what REAL patriotism is all about. Words are cheap; actions speak the loudest truth. I don’t suspect that Chuck Heath and his daughter Sarah can bother with this little bit of history… just not very “glamorous” perhaps.
Finally, vis-a-vis Hawaii, here are the words of the 442nd Infantry regimental unit:
“Four-Forty-Second Infantry— We’re the boys of Hawai’i nei— We’ll fight for you And the Red, White and Blue, And go to the front… And back to Honolulu-lulu. Fighting for dear old Uncle Sam Go for broke! HOOH! We don’t give a damn! We’ll round up the Huns At the point of our guns, And vict’ry will be ours! GO FOR BROKE! FOUR-FOUR-TWO! GO FOR BROKE! FOUR-FOUR-TWO! And vict’ry will be ours!”
“Americanism is not, and never was, a matter of race or ancestry.”
I meant to add that the quote in my last post, “Americanism is not, and never was, a matter of race or ancestry” are the words of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, when he finally announced the formation of the 442nd Infantry Regimental Combat Team.
Would anyone who has lived in Hawaii like to explain Kill Haole Day? Haole is the Native Hawaiian term for Caucasians, and when I used to live there as a Navy brat in the 80s, it was an unofficial day of harassing all white kids in public schools. By harassing I am being politically correct. If the animus were directed at more properly-termed minorities in the Mainland, it would be called a hate crime, and justifiably so.
Look, Hawaiians are a delightful people but there is a tremendous amount of snobbishness if you’re not a part of the native culture. It is not one of those inferred preferences based on race, either. It is palpable in many social situations. Years later, when a classmate of President Obama read “Dreams from My Father”, he was shocked to find out that his pal had felt uncomfortable due to his race as a boy. The man said (paraphrasing), “we were all something, so it didn’t occur to me that Barry felt out of place”.
But people consider that an 18-year old Sarah Palin should feel completely at home given this cultural atmosphere? I don’t think this is one you can blame on a sheltered girl who married a Yup’ik Eskimo, who despite his blue eyes, is tied to the native Alaskan culture up to his eyeteeth.
Todd is up to his eyeteeth in native Alaskan culture? According to the ADN, he is 1/8th Yup’ik. There is nothing to indicate that he has done anything to preserve the language and traditions of his 1/8th heritage.
Is Todd really of the Alaskan native culture? Has anyone even validated that?
FE1,
I don’t live in Hawaii, but I have visited frequently (including the timeframe in which Sarah Palin attended U. of HI) and have family members (in-law) who have relatives who are born/raised/live in Hawaii. I also have had a number of friends (mostly white) who have and/or still live in the islands.
First, the so-called tradition has faded in recent years, such that it is hardly a “tradition” any longer. The hazing/harassment, incidentally, is certainly a misnomer in that nobody has ever actually been “killed”, unlike what has taken place at say fraternity initiations/hazings on college campuses.
Notwithstanding, harassment and violent behavior of this sort is not right — which might be a big reason for the demise of this “tradition”. Fortunately, there have been many right-thinking Hawaiians who never favored nor practiced any harassment. The practice, having come out of the 50′s, would not pass for moral scrutiny — but neither did other practices of discrimination from the same era. (As example, lynchings of blacks during the Civil Rights era in the 1960′s were significant, despite anti-lynching legislation having been passed by Congress in the early 1920′s.)
The point here is that there are going to be “bad apples”, and it’s unfair to generalize and stereotype based on the actions of a small minority. I don’t judge all whites/blacks, Christians/Muslims, pro/choice advocates by the actions of a few who appear on news sound bites.
Also, I don’t like the use of your word “blame” regarding describing Sarah (“sheltered girl”). Who mentioned blame, and why is it relevant? Do you think that assigning Sarah’s response to being in the minority in Hawaii is something that requires pinning “blame” on what you call “this cultural atmosphere”? Is this another example of Sarah being victimized?? How would you account for the fact that there are many white students who seem to do just fine in the same “cultural atmosphere”?
Yet the only news I see on Ms. P is the worshiping book lines. Didn’t even hear of her father’s gaffe. Then again I walk away from any news on her. My stomach can only take so much.
Papa Heath didn’t say Sarah was hazed by native Hawaiian kids. He said she didn’t find the minority thing glamorous. I think if he meant to say she was picked on for being white, he surely would have said it. Palin loves to be portrayed as the victim.
@58 bubs
Well I want my pied-a-terre on Minetta Lane back, too. Also.
: )
I can’t remember where I read it, but there was a blog post by another Alaskan who also went to Hawaii for schooling. He used the phrase “culture shock” to reflect his experience – and makes a good point with that phrase. However, he stuck it out and learned from the experience, whereas SP left for “more like Alaska, but ‘outside.’”
All I can see from Heath’s comment is that at best, SP has a tendency to “get out” when the going gets tough. Things haven’t changed much since, either.
@Fe1:
I was born and raised in Hawaii, and the tradition you speak of is fairly inexplicable. There were other days at the end of the school year targeting Asian kids. I am haole and was never hurt, or saw anyone harmed. It was more of a psychological thing. Military brats would have gotten it the worst, as the military is fairly disliked in the islands, and I will admit I had no kind words for the military growing up. The U.S. Army imprisoned the Queen of Hawaii in 1893 and in 1898 claimed control of the islands, all at the request of a handful of wealthy white landowners who were descendants of the early Christian missionaries. The Hawaiian language was banned from use, and Hawaiians forcefully taken off their land. The US military now controls a huge percentage of land in Hawaii, including sacred sites that are used from target practice. The bad feelings run very deep.
In no way does this excuse such violence, though it may help to explain it. The incredible ethnic diversity in Hawaii for the most part works with relative harmony, and leads many of us from there to feel culture shock when we come to places like Nebraska, where I currently live. Towns with growing Latino populations here are experiencing terrible ethnic problems and I am stunned at the language I hear used to refer to Latinos. But that isn’t “culture shock,” and we should just call it what it is.
Hawaii washed up Palin.
Hawaii gave us President Obama.
Go Hawaii!
Miss Demeanor: unfortunately, I never saw the Blue Band =( Sad for me.
Not to mention, also, too, that she was kept from winning Miss Alaska by one of those there, ethnic types, an African-American Female, Maryline Blackburn, from Fairbanks, no less – way North of Wasilla, too, also. Life is just not fair to that white girl.
Hi, Jack. Thanks for your civil reply. I realize people with my viewpoints are in the minority in this blog, and it’s not my life’s purpose to go to blogs to “rabble-rouse”, but our nation is fast losing its ability to TALK to each other. That should be anathema to all people regardless of politics.
Who mentioned blame, and why is it relevant? Do you think that assigning Sarah’s response to being in the minority in Hawaii is something that requires pinning “blame” on what you call “this cultural atmosphere”? Is this another example of Sarah being victimized?? How would you account for the fact that there are many white students who seem to do just fine in the same “cultural atmosphere”?
Blame as in target her for derision for being unworldly. Her first real trip outside (not including her visits to her grandparents in Wash State) was to Hawaii. That is typical for an American girl of working middle-class origins. Nevertheless, people here and in other blogs seem horrified that she felt out of place, and didn’t gel instantly with the local populace, despite evidence that our own multi-racial, well-traveled president was discomfitted too.
The point is that everyone has an unique and unrepeatable reaction to cultures. It says something that she was willing to make the leap to Hawaii in the first place (which she honestly says was a question of finances, and the lure of the paradisical weather and doesn’t gussy the reason up with politically correct visions of immersing herself in multi-culturalism), but if it didn’t work out, it didn’t work out. To then say she doesn’t like minorities, having herself married one is over-reach.
Incidentally, Todd is from Dillingham, and I’m surprised the native Alaskans here don’t mention that his grandmother is a well-known and respected tribe Elder there.
Anyway, I hope I added something to the conversation at Mudflats today. Thanks for the convo.
It must be noted that until recently Wasilla has been a white community, indeed the whole valley and beyond, with a sprinkling of natives, also with caucasian blood…this was the world she grew up in…I would be shocked that there were any of african descent at Wasilla High school even when she graduated,(I know there were none in her grade-middle school) much less any of asian or pacific island descent. It is still notable when seeing or meeting minority’s here and around…and a refreshing change from the earlier years
Miss Demeanor – you have solved 2 of my Christmas presents!
I’m getting the “Paris on the Yukon” CD for 2 of my sons. They are a riot! We lived in Bethel, the boys went to school and worked there. Thanks a bunch!!
Fe1 (118) said: ” Incidentally, Todd is from Dillingham, and I’m surprised the native Alaskans here don’t mention that his grandmother is a well-known and respected tribe Elder there.”
Has anyone noticed that Todd’s family is NEVER mentioned? Someone on here ran into his father? in CA. I don’t think SP likes to broadcast the Yupik blood. Yeah, she trots out everyone now and then that Todd is part Yupik, but that’s only when it suits her. If they were that close, they would have been dragged into the campaign, too. Sounds to me the elder Palins have better sense, and perhaps have distanced themselves from the Wasilla hillbilly side of the family.
Fe1 #106 and #118
Many of your general comments about cultural differences and people’s unique reactions to those differences are interesting and undeniably true but your specific comments regarding Palin are typical of a pattern used by Palin’s apologists:
1) Counter with an attack on Hawaii (Blaming phase): “….it was an unofficial day of harassing all white kids in public schools. By harassing I am being politically correct. If the animus were directed at more properly-termed minorities in the Mainland, it would be called a hate crime, and justifiably so”…..”Look, Hawaiians are a delightful people but there is a tremendous amount of snobbishness if you’re not a part of the native culture.”
2) Configure Palin as the innocent and often helpless, hapless victim (Protective phase): ” I don’t think this is one you can blame on a sheltered girl….”
3) Assign character traits to Palin which, quite frankly, the general public hasn’t seen substantial evidence for (Diversion phase): “….which she HONESTLY says was a question of finances, and the lure of the paradisical (sic) weather and doesn’t GUSSY THE REASON UP with politically correct visions of immersing herself in multi-culturalism.”……”To then say she doesn’t like minorities, having herself married one is over-reach.” (emphasis mine)
If I have seen the above 3-step defensive pattern once, I have seen it a thousand times. Does that mean that Palin has never been victimized or that she is never worth defending? Of course not…. but the general public out there who are NOT her besotted fans are cognizant of the fact that Palin has the very unfortunate habit of fabrication, even outright lying, as well as embellishment (aka “gussying up” the facts). As a consequence….who the heck really knows why Palin left Hawaii? Presumably her parents and close inner circle know why Palin left Hawaii…… which is why Chuck Heath’s statement was fodder for comment in this blog. Personally I don’t know and don’t really care why she left Hawaii except to the extent that this politician is a polarizing, destructive force in our country and who, in styling herself as a potential national leader, has opened herself up to public scrutiny, questioning, and, yes, even harsh criticism and cutting satire.
You’re right that “our nation is fast losing its ability to TALK to each other. There are many reasons why this has developed but in my opinion Ms. Palin deserves a great deal of credit for the current situation because of her 1) divisive demagoguery, 2) aggressive cultivation of feelings of anger, victimization, free-floating mistrust of the “other” in her fans, 3) and, most heinously, not only lending approval to but outright drumming up conspiracy theories about our government, our President, health care, climate change etc. ad nauseam. When conspiracy theories permeate the citizenery, the Rule of Law starts breaking down…..
^^^ typo citizenry
Tod Palin was raised first in Glenallen and then in the Walsilla area, His father
was manager of REA Electric Companys.
She obviously has a problem with non-whites and leaving multicultural Hawaii for a place Hayden Lake…er…the University of Idaho is no surprise. As for her husband, if he had olive skin and a flat nose she would never have given him the time of day.
I’ve always wondered if the Amish custom of Rumspringa, in which Amish youth spend some time in the outside world, isn’t so much a way of giving them a choice between their family traditions and the “English” world as it is a way of binding them closer to the Amish culture by throwing them into the deep end before they’re old enough to deal with it. In the same way, maybe the point of Sarah being given the equivalent of a “year abroad” was to make her more homesick and thus more likely to return to Wasilla. Hey, it’s a theory.
Also, I’m familiar with blonde, blue-eyed folks trotting out their alleged Native ancestry for personal and professional gain from my time living in Oklahoma, so someone with a bit of Inuit blood being trotted out as somehow “proof” of Palin’s multiculti cred holds no water with me.