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		<title>By: Halloween Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.themudflats.net/2009/12/06/aloha-oy-palin-has-problems-with-hawaiian-minorities/#comment-155697</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered if the Amish custom of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Rumspringa&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, in which Amish youth spend some time in the outside world, isn&#039;t so much a way of giving them a choice between their family traditions and the &quot;English&quot; world as it is a way of binding them closer to the Amish culture by throwing them into the deep end before they&#039;re old enough to deal with it. In the same way, maybe the point of Sarah being given the equivalent of a &quot;year abroad&quot; was to make her more homesick and thus more likely to return to Wasilla. Hey, it&#039;s a theory. 

Also, I&#039;m familiar with blonde, blue-eyed folks trotting out their alleged Native ancestry for personal and professional gain from my time living in Oklahoma, so someone with a bit of Inuit blood being trotted out as somehow &quot;proof&quot; of Palin&#039;s multiculti cred holds no water with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered if the Amish custom of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa"><i>Rumspringa</i></a>, in which Amish youth spend some time in the outside world, isn&#8217;t so much a way of giving them a choice between their family traditions and the &#8220;English&#8221; world as it is a way of binding them closer to the Amish culture by throwing them into the deep end before they&#8217;re old enough to deal with it. In the same way, maybe the point of Sarah being given the equivalent of a &#8220;year abroad&#8221; was to make her more homesick and thus more likely to return to Wasilla. Hey, it&#8217;s a theory. </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m familiar with blonde, blue-eyed folks trotting out their alleged Native ancestry for personal and professional gain from my time living in Oklahoma, so someone with a bit of Inuit blood being trotted out as somehow &#8220;proof&#8221; of Palin&#8217;s multiculti cred holds no water with me.</p>
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		<title>By: ninjabunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>ninjabunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She obviously has a problem with non-whites and leaving multicultural Hawaii for a place Hayden Lake...er...the University of Idaho is no surprise.  As for her husband, if he had olive skin and a flat nose she would never have given him the time of day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She obviously has a problem with non-whites and leaving multicultural Hawaii for a place Hayden Lake&#8230;er&#8230;the University of Idaho is no surprise.  As for her husband, if he had olive skin and a flat nose she would never have given him the time of day.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom McAlister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom McAlister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tod Palin was raised first in Glenallen and then in the Walsilla area, His father
was manager of REA Electric Companys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tod Palin was raised first in Glenallen and then in the Walsilla area, His father<br />
was manager of REA Electric Companys.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^ typo citizenry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^ typo citizenry</p>
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		<title>By: Lee323</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee323</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fe1 #106 and #118

Many of your general comments about cultural differences and people&#039;s unique reactions to those differences are interesting and undeniably true but your specific comments regarding Palin are typical of a pattern used by Palin&#039;s apologists:

1) Counter with an attack on Hawaii (Blaming phase): &quot;....it was an unofficial day of harassing all white kids in public schools. By harassing I am being politically correct. If the animus were directed at more properly-termed minorities in the Mainland, it would be called a hate crime, and justifiably so&quot;.....&quot;Look, Hawaiians are a delightful people but there is a tremendous amount of snobbishness if you’re not a part of the native culture.&quot;

2) Configure Palin as the innocent and often helpless, hapless victim (Protective phase): &quot; I don’t think this is one you can blame on a sheltered girl....&quot; 

3) Assign character traits to Palin which, quite frankly, the general public hasn&#039;t seen substantial evidence for (Diversion phase): &quot;....which she HONESTLY says was a question of finances, and the lure of the paradisical (sic) weather and doesn’t GUSSY THE REASON UP with politically correct visions of immersing herself in multi-culturalism.&quot;......&quot;To then say she doesn’t like minorities, having herself married one is over-reach.&quot; (emphasis mine)

If I have seen the above 3-step defensive pattern once, I have seen it a thousand times. Does that mean that Palin has never been victimized or that she is never worth defending? Of course not.... but the general public out there who are NOT her besotted fans are cognizant of the fact that Palin has the very unfortunate habit of fabrication, even outright lying, as well as embellishment (aka &quot;gussying up&quot; the facts). As a consequence....who the heck really knows why Palin left Hawaii? Presumably her parents and close inner circle know why Palin left Hawaii...... which is why Chuck Heath&#039;s statement was fodder for comment in this blog. Personally I don&#039;t know and don&#039;t really care why she left Hawaii except to the extent that this politician is a polarizing, destructive force in our country and who, in styling herself as a potential national leader, has opened herself up to public scrutiny, questioning, and, yes, even harsh criticism and cutting satire.

You&#039;re right that &quot;our nation is fast losing its ability to TALK to each other. There are many reasons why this has developed but in my opinion Ms. Palin deserves a great deal of credit for the current situation because of her 1) divisive demagoguery, 2) aggressive cultivation of feelings of anger, victimization, free-floating mistrust of the &quot;other&quot; in her fans, 3) and, most heinously, not only lending approval to but outright drumming up conspiracy theories about our government, our President, health care, climate change etc. ad nauseam. When conspiracy theories permeate the citizenery, the Rule of Law starts breaking down.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fe1 #106 and #118</p>
<p>Many of your general comments about cultural differences and people&#8217;s unique reactions to those differences are interesting and undeniably true but your specific comments regarding Palin are typical of a pattern used by Palin&#8217;s apologists:</p>
<p>1) Counter with an attack on Hawaii (Blaming phase): &#8220;&#8230;.it was an unofficial day of harassing all white kids in public schools. By harassing I am being politically correct. If the animus were directed at more properly-termed minorities in the Mainland, it would be called a hate crime, and justifiably so&#8221;&#8230;..&#8221;Look, Hawaiians are a delightful people but there is a tremendous amount of snobbishness if you’re not a part of the native culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>2) Configure Palin as the innocent and often helpless, hapless victim (Protective phase): &#8221; I don’t think this is one you can blame on a sheltered girl&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p>3) Assign character traits to Palin which, quite frankly, the general public hasn&#8217;t seen substantial evidence for (Diversion phase): &#8220;&#8230;.which she HONESTLY says was a question of finances, and the lure of the paradisical (sic) weather and doesn’t GUSSY THE REASON UP with politically correct visions of immersing herself in multi-culturalism.&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;To then say she doesn’t like minorities, having herself married one is over-reach.&#8221; (emphasis mine)</p>
<p>If I have seen the above 3-step defensive pattern once, I have seen it a thousand times. Does that mean that Palin has never been victimized or that she is never worth defending? Of course not&#8230;. but the general public out there who are NOT her besotted fans are cognizant of the fact that Palin has the very unfortunate habit of fabrication, even outright lying, as well as embellishment (aka &#8220;gussying up&#8221; the facts). As a consequence&#8230;.who the heck really knows why Palin left Hawaii? Presumably her parents and close inner circle know why Palin left Hawaii&#8230;&#8230; which is why Chuck Heath&#8217;s statement was fodder for comment in this blog. Personally I don&#8217;t know and don&#8217;t really care why she left Hawaii except to the extent that this politician is a polarizing, destructive force in our country and who, in styling herself as a potential national leader, has opened herself up to public scrutiny, questioning, and, yes, even harsh criticism and cutting satire.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that &#8220;our nation is fast losing its ability to TALK to each other. There are many reasons why this has developed but in my opinion Ms. Palin deserves a great deal of credit for the current situation because of her 1) divisive demagoguery, 2) aggressive cultivation of feelings of anger, victimization, free-floating mistrust of the &#8220;other&#8221; in her fans, 3) and, most heinously, not only lending approval to but outright drumming up conspiracy theories about our government, our President, health care, climate change etc. ad nauseam. When conspiracy theories permeate the citizenery, the Rule of Law starts breaking down&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: tigerwine</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigerwine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fe1   (118) said: &quot; Incidentally, Todd is from Dillingham, and I’m surprised the native Alaskans here don’t mention that his grandmother is a well-known and respected tribe Elder there.&quot;

Has anyone noticed that Todd&#039;s family is NEVER mentioned?  Someone on here ran into his father? in CA.  I don&#039;t think SP likes to broadcast the Yupik blood.  Yeah, she trots out everyone now and then that Todd is part Yupik, but that&#039;s only when it suits her. If they were that close, they would have been dragged into the campaign, too.  Sounds to me the elder Palins have better sense, and perhaps have distanced themselves from the Wasilla hillbilly side of the family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fe1   (118) said: &#8221; Incidentally, Todd is from Dillingham, and I’m surprised the native Alaskans here don’t mention that his grandmother is a well-known and respected tribe Elder there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Has anyone noticed that Todd&#8217;s family is NEVER mentioned?  Someone on here ran into his father? in CA.  I don&#8217;t think SP likes to broadcast the Yupik blood.  Yeah, she trots out everyone now and then that Todd is part Yupik, but that&#8217;s only when it suits her. If they were that close, they would have been dragged into the campaign, too.  Sounds to me the elder Palins have better sense, and perhaps have distanced themselves from the Wasilla hillbilly side of the family.</p>
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		<title>By: tigerwine</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigerwine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Demeanor - you have solved 2 of my Christmas presents!
I&#039;m getting the &quot;Paris on the Yukon&quot; CD for 2 of my sons.  They are a riot!  We lived in Bethel, the boys went to school and worked there.  Thanks a bunch!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Demeanor &#8211; you have solved 2 of my Christmas presents!<br />
I&#8217;m getting the &#8220;Paris on the Yukon&#8221; CD for 2 of my sons.  They are a riot!  We lived in Bethel, the boys went to school and worked there.  Thanks a bunch!!</p>
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		<title>By: just sayin'</title>
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		<dc:creator>just sayin'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It must be noted that until recently Wasilla has been a white community, indeed the whole valley and beyond, with a sprinkling of natives, also with caucasian blood...this was the world she grew up in...I would be shocked that there were any of african descent at Wasilla High school even when she graduated,(I know there were none in her grade-middle school) much less any of asian or pacific island descent. It is still notable when seeing or meeting minority&#039;s here and around...and a refreshing change from the earlier years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It must be noted that until recently Wasilla has been a white community, indeed the whole valley and beyond, with a sprinkling of natives, also with caucasian blood&#8230;this was the world she grew up in&#8230;I would be shocked that there were any of african descent at Wasilla High school even when she graduated,(I know there were none in her grade-middle school) much less any of asian or pacific island descent. It is still notable when seeing or meeting minority&#8217;s here and around&#8230;and a refreshing change from the earlier years</p>
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		<title>By: Fe1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fe1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Jack. Thanks for your civil reply. I realize people with my viewpoints are in the minority in this blog, and it&#039;s not my life&#039;s purpose to go to blogs to &quot;rabble-rouse&quot;, but our nation is fast losing its ability to TALK to each other. That should be anathema to all people regardless of politics.

&lt;i&gt;Who mentioned blame, and why is it relevant? Do you think that assigning Sarah’s response to being in the minority in Hawaii is something that requires pinning “blame” on what you call “this cultural atmosphere”? Is this another example of Sarah being victimized?? How would you account for the fact that there are many white students who seem to do just fine in the same “cultural atmosphere”?&lt;/i&gt;

Blame as in target her for derision for being unworldly. Her first real trip outside (not including her visits to her grandparents in Wash State) was to Hawaii. That is typical for an American girl of working middle-class origins. Nevertheless, people here and in other blogs seem horrified that she felt out of place, and didn&#039;t gel instantly with the local populace, despite evidence that our own multi-racial, well-traveled president was discomfitted too. 

The point is that everyone has an unique and unrepeatable reaction to cultures. It says something that she was willing to make the leap to Hawaii in the first place (which she honestly says was a question of finances, and the lure of the paradisical weather and doesn&#039;t gussy the reason up with politically correct visions of immersing herself in multi-culturalism), but if it didn&#039;t work out, it didn&#039;t work out. To then say she doesn&#039;t like minorities, having herself married one is over-reach.

Incidentally, Todd is from Dillingham, and I&#039;m surprised the native Alaskans here don&#039;t mention that his grandmother is a well-known and respected tribe Elder there.

Anyway, I hope I added something to the conversation at Mudflats today. Thanks for the convo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Jack. Thanks for your civil reply. I realize people with my viewpoints are in the minority in this blog, and it&#8217;s not my life&#8217;s purpose to go to blogs to &#8220;rabble-rouse&#8221;, but our nation is fast losing its ability to TALK to each other. That should be anathema to all people regardless of politics.</p>
<p><i>Who mentioned blame, and why is it relevant? Do you think that assigning Sarah’s response to being in the minority in Hawaii is something that requires pinning “blame” on what you call “this cultural atmosphere”? Is this another example of Sarah being victimized?? How would you account for the fact that there are many white students who seem to do just fine in the same “cultural atmosphere”?</i></p>
<p>Blame as in target her for derision for being unworldly. Her first real trip outside (not including her visits to her grandparents in Wash State) was to Hawaii. That is typical for an American girl of working middle-class origins. Nevertheless, people here and in other blogs seem horrified that she felt out of place, and didn&#8217;t gel instantly with the local populace, despite evidence that our own multi-racial, well-traveled president was discomfitted too. </p>
<p>The point is that everyone has an unique and unrepeatable reaction to cultures. It says something that she was willing to make the leap to Hawaii in the first place (which she honestly says was a question of finances, and the lure of the paradisical weather and doesn&#8217;t gussy the reason up with politically correct visions of immersing herself in multi-culturalism), but if it didn&#8217;t work out, it didn&#8217;t work out. To then say she doesn&#8217;t like minorities, having herself married one is over-reach.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Todd is from Dillingham, and I&#8217;m surprised the native Alaskans here don&#8217;t mention that his grandmother is a well-known and respected tribe Elder there.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope I added something to the conversation at Mudflats today. Thanks for the convo.</p>
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		<title>By: Bretta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention, also, too, that she was kept from winning Miss Alaska by one of those there, ethnic types, an African-American Female, Maryline Blackburn, from Fairbanks, no less - way North of Wasilla, too, also.  Life is  just not fair to that white girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention, also, too, that she was kept from winning Miss Alaska by one of those there, ethnic types, an African-American Female, Maryline Blackburn, from Fairbanks, no less &#8211; way North of Wasilla, too, also.  Life is  just not fair to that white girl.</p>
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