Open Thread – Ice Fortress
OK, it’s not really an ice fortress… it’s more like a lovely, eccentric (and very tall) log cabin. Don, our official Mudflats aviator took to the air today and sent back these pictures of an interesting structure somewhere between Anchorage and Talkeetna. I’m guessing there must be one heck of a view from the top floor. I wonder if they have an elevator…
UPDATE: I’ve gotten some additional information, and also have a request. If you do know the location of this incredible structure, please refrain from posting it. We need to respect the privacy and security of the owner. That said, the house is 13 stories tall! The stairs are not in yet, so ladders scale the 152 feet to the top tower room observation deck. Wow.
Beautiful, just beautiful!
Early fire watch tower maybe?
Second thoughts, that thing on the top looks like a lantern. Some kind of navigation beacon?
wow… i’ll bet the state fire marshal doesn’t have a building permit on file for that!
Can’t wait until someone identifies this.
It surely does look to be a fire-watch tower with a navigation beacon on top, which makes sense looking at the bend of the river and the bits of land that could certainly cause a boat to run aground. Can you imagine the glorious view from the top……….if one had any breathe left by the time all the stairs were climbed?
This is a repeat of an article that appeared in November (which I don’t recall having seen before). A Cleveland food writer who happens to be a vegetarian, mentions Palin’s carnivorous eating style and ends up getting hate mail!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/ticket-replay-sarah-palin.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+topoftheticket+%28Top+of+the+Ticket%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
looks cool
JS in Chicago posted at the tail end of one of yesterday’s threads and it didn’t generate much response and I thought it worth bringing up again. JSiCh states that Gryphen had mentioned it at IM (I don’t recall seeing it myself) about Bristol filing for sole custody. From looking through the court listing, the initial filings were as Jane Doe against John Doe. Bristol had initially sought to keep the names out of the records, sought closed hearings, sole custody, etc. This all started on 11/4 and the last date is 12/23. The saddest part in my opinion, is that she has also sought a protective order. What the heck are they trying to do to Levi?
http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.docket_lst?79282054
This is also why the Tripper wasn’t part of the recent Sarah crosscountry Trig & pony shows.
that would make a great movie set! Wow! would love to see the interior
#8 @GG2C
This was a comment over on Gryphen’s blog about the docket entries:
Stephanie said…
A couple of observations from the docket entries:
The initial motions were filed ex parte–that is, initially without prior notice or any opportunity to respond afforded to Levi.
Before Levi’s attorney even had a chance to enter an appearance on his behalf, Van Flein already had filed, and the Court had denied, a slew of motions seeking: (1) to have Levi held in contempt; (2) to have Levi pay Bristol’s legal fees & costs; and (3) to shorten Levi’s statutory time to responsd to the petition for custody. (See 11/09 entries.)
On December 9, Rex Butler filed an answer to the petition for custody. That of course has not been ruled on, and will be the subject of the custody proceedings Van Flein unsuccessfully sought to close and keep from the public record by use of pseudonyms.
Following that, on December 23, there was a flurry of filings: the Court received from Van Flein a reply to Butler’s oppositions to the ex parte motions (and appears to have denied Van Flein’s request for oral argument on those motions), but denied all of Van Flein’s ex parte motions–not only the motions to substitute pseudonyms, but also the motions to close the proceedings and for protective orders.
It is not entirely clear from the docket entry, but it appears that on December 23 Van Flein also applied for an extension of time in which to file his own reply to Butler’s answer to the petition for custody. If so, it appears that Van Flein is asking for more time to respond to a (responsive) filing for which he unsuccessfully asked the Court to shorten the period of time granted to Levi to respond.
Let’s just say it’s my impression that an extraordinary amount of lawyer hours are being devoted to generating a flood of procedural motions against a nineteen-year-old boy.
It looks like a whimsy of someone’s imagination. At ten stories though it lets me out from climbing it. My NYC son’s last apartment was a fifth floor walkup. I saw it twice. His new apartment is a 4th floor walk up. Haven’t seen that one yet, might wait until he’s on the 3rd floor and lower.
Wow! ( sure beats the heck outta $P’s turret !)
And what the heck is going on against Levi ?? That sounds crazy. If they’re trying something underhanded I hope the flood gates open and Palin receives a major backlash. That woman is nothing but a vortex of negative energy, ruining anything and anyone she’s involved with. argh.
Bet you can see Russia from the top.
You can find that tasty-tower..in Willow, Alaska..;)
Hi Juneaudream, I googled Earth Willow, Alaska. Found a lot, especially the expresso place. Wish I could have coffee. Any idea where in Willow?
Thanks.
“Won’t go away, will she… ? ”
DOONESBURY today starts a new round:
http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/
A better photo of the house/tower. Known by locals as “the Dr. Seuss House”
http://www.city-data.com/forum/photography/567180-odd-unique-strange-houses-buildings.html
“on December 23, there was a flurry of filings:” …. True Christmas preparations, also, too?
Thanks much Buffalogal..I am SO not comp. literate!
Cool picture
LiladyNY – Thanks so much for clarifying all that legal jargon! I rarely go on the IM site as I usually get an alert that my computer is being compromised and then the darn thing locks up on me!
I am VERY glad to hear that the Judge ruled against Van Flein’s attempts to rush and hide their actions. It makes sense for Levi to not being living with his mother at this point, as her status is a big target for the Palins – although it shouldn’t be. Having contact with her grandchild could well be one of the best things to help Sherry deal with her drug and legal issues.
Although Levi has had some income, it probably isn’t such a huge amount that will last through what will probably be a lengthy and expensive custody battle. If a legal fund is set up for him, I’ll be right there donating.
Let’s hope the Judge continues to be fair – there certainly won’t be any decency coming from the Palin camp. I feel sadness for Bristol and Levi and their baby. Custody battles are terrible for the average person, but living in the limelight plus being saddled with Sarah Palin, must be a nightmare.
#18 @Buffalo Gal
I love this house. It looks like a Frank Lloyd Wright birdhouse gone mad. : )
@GG2C
I used to have the same problems over there when I was using the updated version of Firefox. Lots of odd, frustrating things were happening and I was always a big fan of Firefox until then.
I’ve been using Opera and it is clean and simple (really simple) and really nice. Plus, no further problems at IM.
“Dr. Seuss’ House” is a very appropriate name for that structure! Someone certainly had some imagination and $$$ to begin with.
For those who don’t know about Willow – back in the mid-1970s, there was an interest in moving the capital from Juneau to Willow. I don’t remember the details, but the motion was defeated, or no money, or some such.
If the capital had actually moved, I wonder if Palin would still have found some excuse to stay at her own home and collect per diem, even though Willow is just miles from Wasilla.
LiladyNY – I’ll have to check out Opera. I had also used Firefox for awhile and the same thing happened, so I simply went back to IE7……and still have the problems. THANKS!
So how does someone set up a legal fund. I certainly will donate.
Whose gonna start. Gryphen?
Hey! Remember WAR, the failed candidate SP thought would make a dorn-tootin’ great AK Attorney General? Didn’t he specialize in helping dads defend their rights to be in their kids’ lives in divorce/custody proceedings?
I betcha he’s already lined up on Levi’s side and will be writing an Op-ed in the ADN about how important it is for kids to have their dads.
(Even I am not sure how much snark I was injecting into that last sentence)
“dorn-tootin” = “darn-tootin’
Unless he plays a trumpet-like instrument called the Dorn.
It looks like a house totem pole.
Very cool building! I’d love to know the history behind it.
What a nice, esoteric building. I don’t think a wooden structure would suffice as a fire tower, tho. The top could hide/mask the presence of cellular telephone transmitters.
As for the filings in the Bristol-Levi matter, it is just a down-right rotten and dirty thing to file motions right before Christmas.
As for the matter of ex parte , it’s not the motion that is ex parte but the hearing. Nearly all motions, except those rare critters marked as joint motions, are technically ex parte. What the phrase really means is “without the other party” – with the usual reference to a hearing or meeting with the judge without the other or opposing party being present. If I read the comments correctly (is there a link to the docket listing?), Bristol wants to present her side of the story to the judge without Levi being present to give his or to refute hers. It’s a fairly typical tactic in custody matters but it’s especially egregious in this instance because of the timing of the filing(s).
Guess the daughter is as transparent as is the mother. Apple, tree, not much of a fall.
Hopefully this all gets Levi so mad that he will finally come forward with all the “dirt” he has on Sarah. Seems like he has a loaded cannon, and this might be the fuse that sets it off.
sauerkraut,
Here is the link to the docket:
http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.docket_lst?79282054
We might be ..being ‘sidetracked’..by ..yellow journalism ..ya know? The actual frypan..is larger, deals with far more..than personal clashes…as ..diverting..as this, seems to be.
#18-Buffalogal- Thanks for the link. It looks like there is heavy plastic where the windows should be. Wondered what it would cost to purchase all those windows and install them. Would you need a helicopter to get the windows in place? Would be a great rental or BB if it was completed.
Can you see Russia from there?
Bet there is an awesome view –
would be interesting if there was a
web cam transmitting.
What a wonderful expression of personal creativity! It’s wondrous what the imagination is capable of creating when not suppressed by the severe constraints of conformity. Here in the Tucson area (Pima County), I can’t legally put up a porch light or a garden fence w/out paying for a permit and having some porch light expert or garden fence expert approve my plan, and then having the completed work inspected to be sure I didn’t deviate from the plan (never mind that in the course of doing the work I had three better ideas – they’ll have to wait until the inspector’s gone). All that’s for my own good, of course. It’s distressing to me that it’s a system concocted by my fellow liberals, a county government transformed into an intrusive and repressive Homeowners Association. It’s a perfect reflection of every libertarian criticism of liberals and the unnecessary interference of government in the lives of individuals. Despite the offense taken by my own libertarian streak, it’s even more distressing to have to concede the point (or any other) to the local Teabaggers, but I cannot refute that our county government is an example of a liberal government that tramples individual freedom in favor of an imposed social order. It saddens me to know that such a wonderfully creative expression as the Tower House could not exist here.
Kudos to the creators of the Tower House – it is a triumph of imagination and spirit. And thanks to Alaskans for having the respect for your fellow man necessary for such a wonderful personal expression to exist. It stands as a good reminder for all of us that the freedom to experience the fullness of our own humanity – eccentricities included – should supersede the social convenience of imposing conformity on each other.
Now, how about a Gazebo?
Very cool ‘cabin’! BG, that site has some very interesting buildings and homes. Seattle’s own EMP is included. Here, people either love it or hate it. I guess it all depends on if you are a ‘color within the lines’ type or not.
Thanks, Eye!!
megacephalus thank you! great Doonsebury. it’s not going to end is it? lol
Okay… read the docket. Nothing unusual. What would be helpful instead of rank speculation is for someone to go to the courthouse, get copies and post… let’s see what the filings actually show.
My guess is the windows are made out of lexan for strength and to withstand the weather. Most likely, the windows do not get washed regularly. Plexiglass gets scratched easily. Not sure about Lexan.
That’s a really nice piece of folk art, but unless there’s a bunch of structural steel expertly embedded in its core, it would be a very dangerous place to be in an earthquake or a windstorm.
Maybe the owner could rent it out to the Palins, at very favorable rates, as a vacation hideaway.
Or maybe the Palins are the owners. Todd might have built this with his buddies.
I really don’t like my avatar — is there a way to change it?
Meg Stapleton has responded to the claims that Sarah & Todd Palin did not report the threats of gang rape against Willow:
One of the events discussed in former Gov. Sarah Palin’s book, “Going Rogue, ” was a disturbing occurrence that affected the family: a vile threat made against Palin’s daughter, Willow, while she was attending school in Juneau.
The threat was made in a MySpace post.
The family reported the threat to the governor’s security detail and they investigated the matter, including interviewing the individual who made the threat at that person’s home.
Though no charges were brought, the Palin family remained very concerned. The matter involved minors and was likely not subject to public review. A reporter for the Juneau Empire was directed to talk with the governor’s security detail. It is not clear whether he did so. Contrary to the implication of the report, the threat was real, the threat was serious and the threat was responded to.
Meghan Stapleton
Palin family spokesperson
http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/122809/let_540263841.shtml
So despite the fact that the AK Troopers statement that they have no record of this, along with the local police and the school system, Meg is now claiming that the security detail ( the AK Troopers) were indeed informed of this event.
Why do I find that difficult to believe? No one remembers this except Sarah, Todd and Van FLein (who stated he remember Todd telling him about it)? Two members of the Governor’s family were threatened to the point that the Governor (who at the time had a 80% popularity rating) feared for their safety and no one remembers it? Even if the threats turned out to be nothing more than childish talk on a myspace page, this kind of thing is simply not recorded or remembered by anyone? Does that not strike you as odd?
I might be way off base but this custody thing makes me think princess winky has met her waterloo. Like I said, I don’t know why but I think her time has come and there’s nothing she can do to prevent the “big fall.” Time will tell.
Re: The Levi-Bristol saga
Can it be any coincidence that this was filed right on the heels of Levi’s appearance in Playgirl? There are a few things about the timing that strike me — Levi has not yet likely made enough money to withstand a lengthy court battle w/out it breaking him, the Playgirl appearance can be used as ammo in an attack on his moral character and fitness as a parent, and, by striking first, S’arah has put Levi in a position where she can claim anything he says about her now is a lie motivated by his anger over the custody battle – and that’s enough plausible deniability to satisfy the sheeple who follow her.
Where’s Meg Stapleton? I liked the way things were going much better when Palin was listening to her lousy advice.
[[I made a post that contained a 'bad' word and was asked if I wanted to post it anyway (after it was checked by the mods) or to go back and edit it. I opted to edit it...only to find that in the linked re-direct, the whole thing had been wiped away. Is there any way to retrieve it and/or is this happening to others - that they are redirected (returned to the 'compose' box) to edit and find nothing there to edit? beth.]]
I grew up ten miles from this house. The guy is a lawyer and the house is right off a set of railroad tracks. You can see it from the highway on a long straight away, but many who see it just think it’s just a long (rogue, hee-hee) tree. It teeters in the wind near the top floor. He’s quite secretive about his tower house.
The judge hearing the case was appointed by Murkowski not Palin. She also was the judge on the Diane Palin case. There is another judge in Palmer with the last name of Heath…don’t know if that judge is related to Queen Quitter.
The Honorable Judge Kristiansen was also the one reported to have heard Diana Palin’s not-guilty plea last (was it April?) when she was allegedly caught red-handed allegedly breaking-and-entering someone’s home with a daughter allegedly in tow, although a different judge seems to have been handling the case ever since….
http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/pa/pa.urd/pamw2000.docket_lst?8130958
Does anyone know Kari Kristensen? She’s the judge in the custody case. She has already denied Van Flea’s motions to use pseudonyms for Bristol and Levi (usually only granted for the minor in these cases), and also a motion for a “restraining” order. This is going to be an interesting case. I can’t see where the fact that Levi posed for Playgirl to be a mitigating factor or lots of celebrities would lose their kids in their line of work. It will be behavior AFTER the child’s birth that will mitigate, such as the Palins’ attempts to restrict visitation to Levi, etc. and Levi’s support payments (is there even a court order for that? otherwise, his payments are voluntary and he has made them, from what I understand). They’ll look at each parent’s ability to maintain a home, parenting skills, etc. Hopefully, Rex Butler knows a skilled family court practitioner Levi can hire. Van Flea isn’t one, BTW, so unless he’s as greedy as Her Nibs, he’ll move aside. I don’t see why there would be a problem with joint custody or generous visitation for Levi–whatever he wants. But then, surely we’ll have Her Majesty interfering in the background. But surprise! The wishes of grandparents generally don’t count; let’s see how much they can lie, though.
Lol, MO Inkslinger! You beat me!
The tower reminds me of our visit to the Winchester House in San Jose, CA. She was an heiress to the Winchester Rifle fortune. At some time in her life, she was given the prophecy that as long as she kept building her house, she would stay alive. Stop construction, and her life would be over. (Turned out that she died while they were working on the house, darn prophecy).
As a result, there are door ways and windows that open to the solid wall of a room addition. There are stairways that go nowhere, sometimes several staircases in one room. Some of the construction was based on what she thought were lucky numbers. The outside looks like a big old Victorian mansion. There are a few interior images on Google images; they do not allow photography in the Winchester house.
My advice to Levi: Get a court supervised DNA test!
mae lewis Says:
December 28th, 2009 at 10:53 AM
My advice to Levi: Get a court supervised DNA test!
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yep. yep. absolutely.
What’s wrong with Levi posing in Playgirl ? It’s gainful employment, and it is perfectly legal. How can they use that against him ? He took an opportunity to earn money and provide for his child.
Does everyone forget the illegal job that Sarah got for him (and it seemed FORCED him to take) working on the North Slope but he was underage ?
Oops, hit ENTER before I was done.
To continue: You can bet that SP will try and twist that North Slope incident into something against Levi, and try to blame him for working illegally.
I see nothing wrong with the Playgirl pictures; tastefully done, nothing pornographic about them; and perfectly legal.
At least we know it was him in the pictures; we STILL don’t know for sure who wrote SP’s book.
Laurie 32 was just reading along here and came to your post, sooo funny, still makes me laugh!
Have I got this right….. Bristol is looking for sole custody of the baby and also a restraining order against Levi?
I just got the funniest mental picture after reading a Palingates poster calling S’error the Medias ” Ca$h Cow “… and that’s why they won’t call her on her Lies.
( FlyinurEye… OR anybody ?) Wonkette fans…?
S’errors face photoshopped onto a BIG Old Cow…? whaaaa!!!
And would this ” Ca$h Cow ” have come from the ‘ DairyGate ‘ herd as well?
{ Is that dairy still up and running.. or is the State still paying for it? }
It would definitely have to have a big old ” $$ ” branded onto it’s rear end. So we would know what ‘ herd ‘ it came from in case it wandered off into the Lower 48 and got lost.
Or if this was one of those 2-person Costume Cows, Tawd could be bringing up the Rear with his head obviously…. you know where.
Irishgirl,
That is what it looks like. I am not 100% sure, but you figure that Sarah had to have known about all this going on, especially considering it is her personal lawyer who is handling Bristol’s case, and then we know that Sarah went onto Oprah telling her that Levi would be welcome to join them for Thanksgiving (all the while knowing that Bristol had filed a protective order against Levi) and how much Levi was loved and needed love. Just goes to show you that Sarah is a nasty little so and so who can’t be trusted on any front.
So many times family members create issues for unwed parents – on both sides of the family. Everyone wanting their piece without the other.
Having a fair & impartial (key words there) court decree is in the best interest of the child AND parents to determine visitation / holidays / birthdays etc. Jointly raising a child requires long term planning, unfortunately, many couples wait until bitter feelings before obtaining a stable resolution to custody.
I feel that Levi will be fighting this battle for the next 18+ years. Since Palins seem to treat him as only a sperm donor – not a formerly engaged couple, with a fairly long term relationship.
How sad to be raised with anger & disgust toward whichever person he is not with at the moment. The Court should protect this child by having every relative in that courtroom – and understand what effect their anger will have on that child. (Grandparents, Great Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles, etc)
operating system problems / hangups…
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doesn’t Levi have a bundle coming in from his nude photo session?
[not sure how that one will play out in a custody court, however...
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SPs unequivocal characterization of Levi’s adventure(s) into the world of magazine photos as “pron” [reverse the two middle letters] makes complete sense, now! Of ALL the words she could have chosen to respond to the question [was it Oprah's?] about Levi –and if he would be having Thanksgiving with the Palin family– she chose that one.
She knew Van F would be filing for Bristol’s sole custody and she was making a preemptive strike; not many judges look favorably on one of the parties in a custody case being ‘in the pron business’. In most cases, probably 99.92% of the time, that would be an automatic disqualifier for awarding of custody.
Too bad the librul media and the Alaska bloggers apparently ‘got to’ the judge, first, and the judge isn’t rolling over to the Van F/Palin request without first allowing due process for both of the parental parties.
Dang, if the totally biased librul media and AK bloggers would just “quit makin’ things up” to poison the mind of the judge(s), there would be no problem – no delay. See, it’s also all their fault, too. beth.
From here forward, I’m going to imagine the Mudflats Chat Tree House to look like this place in Willow AK. ( Dya think it’s on the market?? )
Desert Mudpup @ 49 – When $P mentioned Levi on Oprah’s show in Nov, I got a really creepy feeling when she took that moment to stress the word “p*rn” about the Playgirl work. She said the word once and then went back to repeat it, and with a stress on pornography . I thought, ” I just betcha she’s making that statement outloud to a bajillion viewers in order to serve her own purposes “
Chat Tree House
this architect speculates that the ‘bones’ are a typical steel transmission tower frame, adapted. The choice of location with two seemingly unobstructed views at an angular ‘turning point’ argues for this idea. There are a vertically regular series of ‘floors’ apparently of steel, with the ‘infill-panels’ of wood being somewhat ‘artistically irregular’ in placement horizontally. Summary: I think it’s a camouflaged, for what ever reason (including creative ‘adaptive reuse’), (old?) microwave relay tower… although I do not know if current technology still requires the ‘antenna bowls’ for the receiving and relay antennae.
Any one have the GPS coords? Anyone able to check the history?
Of course following the thread here… it does perhaps argue for S’error’s rejecting of building codes. [o.k. guys, sorry. my bad! ]
Enjay in E.MT Says..The Court should protect this child by having every relative in that courtroom – and understand what effect their anger will have on that child. (Grandparents, Great Grandparents, Aunts, Uncles, etc)
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I doubt that it would make a difference within the Palin family. They have already been through this with the custody of Molly & Trooper Wooten’s child/children. Sarah and her family were ordered to stop disparaging Trooper Wooten on more than one occasion and it got so bad that the Judge in the case told Molly that if it did not stop it would cause her to lose custody of her children. Given that information, I seriously doubt that the Palin/Heath family will change their M.O., since we know that Sarah and her family did not stop disparaging Trooper Wooten and continue to do so to this day.
Haven’t heard much from silly sarah’s protege, Carrie Prejean since her self sex tape(s) hit the nets. They appear to be cut from the same cloth, too stupid to know what they don’t know. I would say sarah’s little friend carrie’s tapes were quite a bit more graphic than Levi’s playgirl spread. Gee, sarah look at who you pal around with and send little notes of approval and encouragement to. Hope your girls don’t consider her a role model.
Beth,
Sarah went on the Oprah show knowing full well that Bristol had already filed for custody and filed a protective order against Levi. Those filings were done long before Sarah went on the Oprah show.
Her behavior on Oprah towards Levi was a set up to make her look like a loving concerned grandmother.
HonestyinGov-Yup, Sarah’s pretend dairy is still getting help from the State in special favors and special “loans”…wink wink. Is it really a loan when you don’t make any payments on the “loan?” I think that is a “grant!” The CEO of that new dairy, Karen Lee Olson, defaulted on a $2,000,000 dairy loan years ago and she is back for more.
Yes, that is what I was thinking. She had to have known this when she went on Oprah and I don’t doubt that she used that word specifically. What a vindictive, petty, little excuse for a woman she is.
I’m also wondering on what grounds they can get a restraining order. Is that to do with the pron as well?
The loser in all of this will be the baby.
Being a male and having gone through a custody case, I can unequivolly state, as any attorney would most likely agree, that Van Fless is being an axxhoxx. I get the impression he is trying to escalate Levi’s legal fees by entering excessive legal motions. I hope this judge is also fair and not influence in anyway by the Palin’s and who Sarah might know. So far she seems to be fair. I wonder how well the records are being kept by Van Flees inorder to separate Sarah’s fees from the custody case. It believe it would be a great idea to set up a legal fund for Levi. Evan if you don’t like everything he does, at least it would essure that he has the funds available to fight a fair and costly custody battle which is costly to begin with, but can get more costly if lawyers like Van Flees use tactics to try outlast him by increasing the his legal cost. This is not an uncommon tactic. If they’re any excess in the funds left over after Levi’s case is over, the funds could go to towards another worth while cause. It would just need someone to control it and to ensure the money is used properly.
By the way, although it took 3 1/2 years for my case to end, I eventually won custody of my two young girls and that was, wait for it……..over 25 years ago. I just couldn’t resist putting in a little AK Muckraker in on a serious subject.
I say depose sarah in the custody battle.
Also , sarah’s personal trainer/newest lackey looks eerily like this nitwit.
Seperated at birth ?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/28/mary-matalin-bush-inherit_n_404949.html
Can any of you l-eagles out there explain the difference between a protective order and a restraining order in a case like this?
Can a protective order be solely for the purpose of protecting sensitive information from being revealed on the part of the plaintiff? (I.e. could they be trying to avoid having certain information about certain people close to the plaintiff (guess who) being brought into the case?
Using this to protect Sarah’s secrets makes more sense to me than trying to protect someone against Levi (or Sherry).
new thread up
EyeonYou – #71
Unfortunately, the court probably won’t take into consideration Previous History of the Palin/Heath Clans actions until later – However, can hope that one judge will talk to another to relay what occurred on previous case with some of the same “non-participants”
I wonder if Oprah knows she was duped in this way?
This is what I found in the AK statutes regarding “protective orders” and I got to this from the Child Custody information.
AS 18.66.100. Protective Orders: Eligible Petitioners; Relief.
http://touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/Statutes/Title18/Chapter66/Section100.htm
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Enjay in E.MT
It may not be taken into account, but one would hope that Rex Bulter is at least considering pointing it out if need be in order to show an established pattern of behavior on the part of the Palin & Heath family.
@82 — The statute you referenced relates to domestic violence and sexual assault. I was wondering about the use of protective orders in regard to other matters. If that’s not the case in AK, I shudder to think about the implications here.
The court docket shows that Levi supposedly violated a court order, and they tried to hold him in contempt. I hope this is not related to the protective order, but who knows what they could be accusing him of. I wouldn’t put anything past this family when it comes to vilifying other people for their own personal gain. They certainly have a long provable history of doing just that.
JS in Chicago,
I was looking for “protective orders” in conjunction with Child Custody information and that link is the one given.
I googled “AK Child Custody Protective Order” and got this:
AS 25.20.080. Mediation of Child Custody Matter.
http://touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/Statutes/Title25/Chapter20/Section080.htm
That has the link to which I posted above.
from this week’s newsweek’s palin article:
” First of all, I don’t mean to suggest that Palin is personally selfish; anyone who has ably raised five children while running an entire state clearly cares about people other than herself.”
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lol. I guess Trig is all “raised” although still less than 2 years old. And giving Palin credit for running an “entire” state without mentioning “for part of her term” is a howler.
The article’s author clearly didn’t expect me, at least, to read beyond the above sentence. Drivel!
A very interesting posting on DU regarding Corporatism
“When the Government begins to “partner” with business instead of regulating it you have a problem. You have the ability of the government to pick winners and losers. What happened this past year with the TARP payments and the subsequent tax rule rewrites by Tim Geithner’s crew to pay them back was an example of the government picking a winner and a loser. The winner being large banking firms that were enormously irresponsible and losers being smaller banks.”
Read more @
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×7338642
Bristol files for Sole Custody of Tripp. In court proceedings Van Flein calls Tripp “Tripp Johnston Palin” and tires to keep the hearing closed but Levi fights back saying he thinks he and Bristol will have an easier time if the proceedings are open because it will keep Sarah Palin from future meddling in the situation, and “he theorized that the closed proceedings might be intended to conceal some “fairly aggressive” tactics”.
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/blogs/palin-watch/3457-palin-daughter-sues-for-custody
megacephalus — I’m running Ubuntu Linux on both my laptop and desktop, and am really quite happy with it. I still have a couple Win apps that I keep Win XP on my desktop for (it’s been dual boot for a couple years), but other than that I use Linux all the time. It consumes a lot less of the processor time than Win does, and w/ out the need for an anti-virus program (viruses are a Windows problem), it gains even more productivity. And Free Software – I like free software. It’s sort of a hobby, but I make a little money at it – I buy computer components through eBay and a couple other sources and build computers to sell. All those go out loaded w/ Ubuntu Linux and a selection of freebies. Openoffice.org, a free office software package from Sun Microsystems, is compatible w/ MS Office and is also available free for Windows in case some haven’t discovered it yet.
http://www.openoffice.org/
For those who might want to try Ubuntu, usually Borders has the Ubuntu Live CDs – you can boot from the CD and get a look at Ubuntu w/ out having to install it. It includes Firefox and some other software you can use while running from the CD. Borders also has a $10 Ubuntu Pocket Guide – there is a bit of a learning curve, but it’s not bad. I look for a lot more people to make the switch when MS drops support for XP and people are faced the choice of yet another $100+ OS or a free one.
I know this is late in the open thread, but well worth the read:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-warmowski/matalin-to-palin-quit-bit_b_367662.html
Kind of funny, kind of horrifying. Worth reading.
That is one funky house! When I saw it, the first thing that sprang to mind was that it was $P’s ice fortress, where the wicked ice queen of the north doth dwell.
Ah, yeah, I must be bored…
to Nan #89 – that is quite a story! It angers me no end when a man hits a woman or a child since this reinforces the feeling of worthlessness and weakness. We should be lifting up our people, not putting fear into their life and making this an approved way to interact with others.
I’ve been fighting back with friends lately when they make stupid comments about others groups of people, be it related to skin color, religion, dress, etc. I never used to speak up, but after listening to everyone on these Alaskan blogs, my voice is beginning to be raised. Of course, it is not listened to – but it is a start and if I keep it up either I will lose the friend, the friend will no longer talk this way around me, or maybe s/he will begin to think differently. I wish for the last result, but would live with the middle idea so I don’t have to be vigilant in calling these ideas out.
Matalin had another argument on HP today about Bush inheriting 9/11 – and I couldn’t believe her face. It didn’t move when she spoke, and her lips didn’t move – just opened a tiny bit. It was truly sad. I was so in awe that a voice could be heard with no facial action that I almost missed her words!
I appears that we are in for a long, hard, slog – and with the threat today from Al Queda that they are going to do something really big soon, it won’t get any easier.
Thanks to you all for being here – and being open to listening to others.
Wow, indeed.
I’d never build that in So. Cal. Too many earthquakes.
That said, I wouldn’t put in stairs either, unless it also had an elevator.
Ladders? Sheesh.
Wander on over to Huffpo and check out the 2009 “Douche of the year”.
Our gal S’error is leading!
DD
DuckDriver -
#1 Douche………gotta love it !! I done did vote fer sarah.
JS @ 83 – read the news article at the link posted by Eye @ 87, especially the following paragraph as it shows the contempt effort was for Levi commenting publicly on the case; the effort was denied because while the case file was made temporarily unavailable to the public, the parties were free to comment on the matter after the judge denied van flea’s “protective gag order” attempt. Let’s not be so quick that there is any credible reason for a protective order related to the child as that leaves the unfair insinuation that Levi has done something wrong.
Palin’s attorney, Thomas Van Flein, filed a motion in November requesting a hearing to hold Johnston in contempt based on public statements he’d made about the case; however, Kristiansen denied the motion, stating that the court had closed the custody proceedings at Palin’s request, but had not granted a request for a protective gag order. In other words, while the public couldn’t access the court file, the parties were free to talk about it to anyone they liked.
yanno… back to the picture… that house reminds me of the Weasley house from the Harry Potter series… perhaps this is where the Weasley’s moved after Belatrix flamed their house to dust. Ron and Hermaine now live in this expanded version of the original.
Desert Mudpup
I tried Ubuntu and had major problems installing from the free cd(I strongly suspect from clueless computer challenged grandma issues).I was left with a start screen that asks if I want to boot xp or Ubuntu.Ubuntu seems to not be a complete system and I cannot use it.tried re installing,but I cant get rid of the damaged system I installed.Xp still works fine.
Wish I had a clue.
Here’s the link if you couldn’t find it. Took me a while.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/esarcasm/whos-the-biggest-doucheba_b_405304.html
I was just talking with a friend about this structure today! She was saying the owner is into ham radio, and there are metal things at the top that are antennae to increase his range.
The tower looks more like some temple than a house.
Looks like a teetering cairn. Wow!
LiladyNY Says:
December 28th, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I wonder if Oprah knows she was duped in this way?
Since when was Oprah ever concerned about the truth?
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=497
If Oprah routinely lets the Jenny McCarthys and Suzanne Somers spew their pseudo-medical quackery without ever been concerned about the truth of their claims, why on earth would she ever be worried about what SP says?
Oprah’s about making money for Oprah. Palin was just another ratings booster for her. Truth be damned.