Something’s Fishy…
A simple reminder to conservationists to attend the election meeting of the Citizens Advisory Committee to the Alaska Department of Fish and Game has taken a fascinating and amusing twist. You’re going to like this one.
I noted in my first announcement that the website AmmoLand.com had posted a notice from the Anchorage Second Amendment Task Force (2ATF) about this meeting, in which they reported the following:
Radical environmental groups have mobilized to insert their preferred candidate’s in order to use the board to promote their twisted agenda, including supporting the listing of cook inlet Beluga’s as endangered.
I copied and pasted this quote from their website directly into my post.
Then, after I posted and linked to AmmoLand, the copy suddenly changed. The word “radical” was removed from “Radical environmentalists,” and the word “twisted” was removed from “their twisted agenda.” This was interesting in and of itself, but then the following comment appeared on The Mudflats.
“Submitted on 2010/01/04 at 2:53pmThe alert sent out by Anchorage 2ATF reads:
“Environmental groups have mobilized to insert their preferred candidate’s in order to use the board to promote their agenda, including supporting the listing of cook inlet Beluga’s as endangered.”
No links were included.Mudflats misquotes this statement above:
“Radical environmental groups have mobilized to insert their preferred candidate’s in order to use the board to promote their twisted agenda, including supporting the listing of cook inlet Beluga’s as endangered.”
Link included.Do not expect any factual information here.
Mudflats live off the distortion of the facts.”
Even more interesting. This person was saying that I had changed the wording of the Anchorage 2ATF to sound less extreme. And, they said, not only had I deliberately misquoted them, but for some reason had linked to the site that I misquoted. Hard to believe.
Apparently our little friend didn’t realize that the email that was sent out with the “radical, twisted” wording went out not only to the 2ATF mailing list, but that I have a copy of it. Here it is:
I cropped off a little on the bottom, but you can clearly see at the end that my quote is accurate.
So, what was going on here? Someone was coming on to The Mudflats and trying to tell readers that I was lying – that I couldn’t be trusted – that I was manipulating the facts to suit my personal agenda – that nobody should believe what I write. Well, that’s not very nice…
Obviously, anyone who has gotten the 2ATF email can go into their inbox right now and see that the claim by this commenter who goes by the screen name “AK_Fish,” is categorically false. They may have changed the website, but the email cannot be taken back and remains as it was originally sent. You can’t unring the bell. Who would be foolish enough to say that the email said one thing when it had been sent to hundreds of people who could easily check it on their own computers? I was curious.
So, I decided to check out this commenter and see who it might be. I checked out the email address that the commenter was nice enough to leave. It turns out that the email address associated with “AK_Fish” is easily traced to none other than Alaska House District 22 Candidate Mark Fish. I guess the “fish4house” part of the email should have been a hint. I’m shocked, shocked I say! Imagine the idea that a Republican candidate for political office in the State of Alaska could do something like that. Don’t that beat all?
This is what we’re up against, folks. So, back to my original intent for this post. Please don’t forget to come to tonight’s meeting! We need every single one of you. And if you’re early, it’s rumored there will be brownies!
Anchorage School District Building Education Center – 5530 Northern Lights Blvd. – 6:00 TONIGHT. Please come and bring friends!
You are correct… you cannot unring a bell; nor is there a point to closing the barn door once the jackarses have left the building.
I’d go, but it’s gonna take me a couple o’days to get there, sooooo… I’ll wait for your report and pictures. Include Mr. Alan Bloomquist’s so that we all can make fun of him.
Zing!
You can’t unring a bell nor can you undo stupid too, also, also betcha, gotcha ya, wink, wink, nod, nod!
Alaskan’s the line has been drawn in the sand. Will we stand by and let SFW promote candidates that are child sex offenders? Steve Flory is SFW’s candidate of choice
http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/p…e_sum?61266800
Alaska will be turned into a game farm for nonresident trophy hunters if SFW is allowed to hijack our states advisory councils.
STEP UP AND TAKE THE TIME TO COME DOWN AND VOTE!
Your Alaska and our kids Alaska is at stake!!
Light years ago, I used to be a Republican- long before they required Advanced Stupidity as part of their Core Curriculum.
Reminds me of one of my favorite Mark Twain quotes….”Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.”
nothing like the FACTS smack between the eyes LOL
good luck tonight, wish i could be there
Looks like they need help with apostrophes too. i.e. candidate’s and beluga’s
ouch! The internet challenged candidate got smacked upside the head with a fish on that one.
Good luck tonight. I hope there’s so many people you run out of brownies!
Okay–I don’t mean to generalize the entire GOP as idiots–but WTF!
Are they doing selective breeding in the party? You know–kicking out
everyone who can say the alphabet and count to ten. Everyone else is allowed outside to run for politics and go to county fairs and post idiocy on Facebook.
Bwaaaaa.. Bwaaa aa !!!!!!!!! ( rolling on the floor…. )
And THIS AKM…. is just one fine example of How and Why you were awarded
and received the well deserved ” Cook Inletkeeper Muckraker of 2009 ” Award.
{ HUGE round of applause here……standing ovation }
I sure hope his ‘ progressive opposition ‘ in the next Election reminds the voters of his ‘ documented ‘ record. A little ‘ Wite-out ‘.. won’t make things disappear either.
He needs to ask for a job as an Assistant to Meg StapleGun.
I’ll be there, with my camera.
Wow! I can almost understand some older political candidates who might be a little behind the times when it comes to Twitter and Facebook, but to lie about the contents of a mass email and think no one will find out is just astonishing!
I certainly would NOT want anyone this stupid (and devious) representing me for ANY political office! Pants on fire much???
Oh snap!
Looks like someone else should be honored with the “Pants on Fire” award.
What is he? 10 years old? I’m guessing he is Palin’s BFF.
Good luck tonight. Wish I could be there evenif there were no brownies! 8 )
Oh these sillies. Hoist on his own petard I’d say. Methings, this charming little stunt should be written about in your local newspaper.
Teh Stupid really must hurt after a while.
big sigh – even if there were no brownies.
Methinks. . . .
New computer too fast. LOL
WOW. Sounds like someone else who tries to blame the liberal media for her appearing like an idiot. Do these people all come from the same (cess) pool!
…”insert their preferred candidate’s in order to use the board”…
He also wins the award for the inappropriate use of an apostrophe.
It must be in the Republican water up there.
yes akraven @15. they do.
can we please add a little bleach to the gene pool? jeez, what idiots!
I’m there with you in spirit, since I cannot be there in person!
OM’G (just for you, R’ipley!)… SO glad I don’t live in District 22, though that would certainly make my voting even easier!
# 10
Blue_in_AK Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 12:47 PM
I’ll be there, with my camera.
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Blue…. if you are there tonight doing a BOTG report with picture.. . see if some of the people there might point out ” Alaska House District 22 Candidate Mark Fish “…. and get His picture. people must know him.
I’m sure he would love the publicity since he is running for Office.
{Any chance that he looks like Eddie Smurf..?.. Hmm? }
Unbelievable… You can’t make this stuff up!
Out of curiosity, I took a look at Mr. Fish’s website and read a little of his “housing” screed.
I almost fell off my chair when I read his statement that
“Involuntary servitude happens when individual’s have no choice but to expend their labor to satisfy the ever increasing demands of government simply because they are exercising their right of home ownership.” [his emphasis]
So we have a right to not just a roof over our heads but to own our homes? This is a pretty shocking thing given “conservatives” insist that people have no right to health care.
I’m gob-smacked.
Well, phooey — the bold didn’t work in the quote. For clarification, Mr. Fish had bolded the word “right.”
I said this on the forum just now, I’ll reiterate it here:
“Republican candidates trying to play fast and loose with the facts and disparage AKM’s reputation. Directly related to the vote tonight.
Remember that it is Mark Fish, Republican, candidate for Alaska House District 22, whom the remarks about AKM have been traced back to. Remember that when it is time to vote folks and remember, who lied and who was trying to get the truth out to the people of Alaska.
Remember.”
Me a Rebublican who dun’t understand the intertubes and are a liar, also too.
Sincerly,
Fish
Guess he’s gone to the SP school of lying idiots. What a doofus.
Mark Fish deserved to be called out, what a despicable liar who tried to smear and discredit you through his inflamatory rhetoric and tea-bagging meme. His action is as revealing as that disgusting Eddie Burke and his beehive cohort on riling up True Americans to harass and overturn a sitting judge’s ruling in a Palin matter.
These folks are dangerous, even in a little House district race.
Unbelievable. The arrogance and the insolence in their brand of patriotism is so alarming.
Thanks for insertin’ it to mr.fish.
Call him out! Put his very words in front of him and ask him to explain the defamatory attack he made about AKM. Ask him to explain to everyone in a public setting for whom he works and who is backing him – that nasty piece of dreck (that’s Jewish for shite).
I find it fascinating (and scary) that these people think that whatever they are saying at the moment is the TRUTH.
They do not consider that what they have said before is on tape, youtube, or on emails.
Those things seem not to exist in their “reality.” I remember from something when Bush was president, he mentioned something about “his reality.” His reality certainly turned out to be different than everyone else’s in the world.
Where are they getting this from? Some fringe religious thing? If you think it, it will come? If you pretend it doesn’t exist, it will go away? From cartoons?
I’m on the East coast and I’m getting tired. I know this won’t make sense in the morning either.
But I do remember working for a pathological liar, at an early point of my life, and another paranoid boss just a few years later. The first one couldn’t tell the truth if his life depended on it. And the second was convinced everyone was out to get him. He was wrong, but it made no difference in his mind.
Why do I feel caught in the same recording here?
Hmmm, I wonder if Mark Fish is brave enough to own this or blame somebody else.
I use the word brave because I came across info. online ( http://tinyurl.com/yg7ttbt and click on his profile bottom right) where he states that his favorite movies are “Braveheart, “Shape of Things to Come” (based on an H.G. Wells novel and the 1979 movie is rated 3.2/10 on the IMDb!), and “Logan’s Run”.
His hobbies are muzzle loaders, fishing, history
In case those in attendance need some conversation starters when they see him there. (grin)
For those that were at or viewed the original AK Women Against Palin rally in Sept 08, Mark Fish was the guy across the street grimly holding the gigantic 4×8 McCain-Palin sign. He was very involved in the August teabagger rallies, loves to spout conservative platitudes, but can’t defend his positions when confronted with calm rational debate.
He’ll never win in House District 22. We don’t tolerate his kind of shenanigans.
I wonder what it would take to replace the King of Stupid with the Queen of Integrity? It seems to me that “stupid” and Greed” have been in power far too long!
From his website, here is his e-mail:
fish4house@gmail.com
And here is the message that I just sent him:
Dear Sir,
I believe you owe an apology and a retraction to AKMuckraker at The Mudflats. You branded her a liar and disparaged her website. I recommend you immediately check out her latest article, where you can see for yourself that she used the EXACT wording that was in the e-mail………which she has also posted.
It would have served you better to have researched the issue before posting. If I was still a resident of Alaska, I don’t believe that I could vote for you – and that is based on only this one thing that I know about you. All I can say is shame on you and I hope you are more careful in the future when casting aspersions on other’s character.
He’s obviously a Teabagger and pro-Palin. I think he should get LOTS of emails condemning his posting! (hint, hint)
My compliments to the chef:
http://h-oh-l.blogspot.com/2010/01/go-fish-yourself.html
I shall slap you with a herring!
Fish looks like one of the militia wackjobs and a big big hypocrite to boot: retired military so he’s sucking down taxpayer provided goodies for the past 20 years but anti government. Go figure.
You get all the luck…I suppose in this case [your] curiosity killed the fish.
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Sorry
I cannot speak for all, though I think Irishgirl would agree:
Eminently double-halibut-worthy.
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Methinks Mark, the knucklebutt can’t read, what a hoot. Thank you AKM for the laugh. I wish you the best tonight at the meeting. And if he’s there, smack him on the head with a fish or two or three. That might refresh his memory, or not. =)
oh good grief….
is there a special school where people major in “Proud to be Stupid”?
Hello, I am stupid, can I make a point here to? A resounding “NO, we already know you’re stupid!” Can you figure out who I am? (this is directed to Fish, since the dead Fish float on the top of the barrel)
MonaLisa (inCT) Says:
January 5th, 2010 at 3:16 PM
I cannot speak for all, though I think Irishgirl would agree:
Eminently double-halibut-worthy.
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Yes, worthy of a halibut slap. WfAK taught me about this..
Truth always prevails and as usual, AKM, you have exposed the truth here with class. Facts and proof positive speak volumes over B/S.
Oh I really really want to be at that meeting!
These jackasses never learn, do they?
http://images.google.ie/images?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&q=halibat&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=Qd9DS-XQL4P60wSNpriTBQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=7&ved=0CC8QsAQwBg
I think there is something fishy about this.
I also think a public retraction and apology are in order!
No apology needed. None wanted.
http://commonsensealaska.blogspot.com/2010/01/hey-mudflats.html
I’m going to be there tonight, and I’m bringing friends. Anyone else going to be there?
Alaska’s wildlife needs us to be their voice.
Besides, I heard something about brownies….
Irishgirl – Fish-slapping Dance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s
Odd that a blog with “commonsense” in the title has none.
#46 @AK_Fish
You know perfectly well that the apology is not TO you but FROM you. Don’t pretend to be more stupid than you are.
And you are a small-minded big-mouthed ignorant chickensh*t not to own your own mistakes. You got caught with your pants down boyo. Go flow with the other dead fish.
I hope no one jumps to his blog and leaves a message. The poor pitiful thing has no doubt got blogger envy since there are only a few comments left on there during the entire year. And I believe a few were comments he made to himself. (snark intended)
amy, i almost did. was going to say something like apparently you failed to notice the screen shot of the email. chose not to.
AKM- best wishes for all of you tonight.
I went to that site twice that first evening and read the twisted and radical foolishness… didn’t get a screenshot but certainly read it.
Folks spout goofiness like that, dumb but fine.
Folks realize they stuck their foot in their mouth and try to pretend it didn’t happen… well, just dumb.
LiladyNY -
Dang !! You go Girl !! LMAO……
As well as the screen shot/email if you google
“Anchorage Fish & Game Advisory Committee” – I used last week only option – there is a lovely google cache version of the original post
Very hard to unwrite what has been written in the age of the internets
My New Years Resolution.
Go to bed!
(((Virtual high-five, LiLadyNY)))
Way to go, Lilady! Get him! (verbally, of course)
Poor AK_Fish. He’s living proof that you can’t fix stupid. Or, so he’ll be able to read this, “He prove’s you ca’nt fix stupid”.
It really doesn’t matter what he says now, when the original was already sent out via email and is on mudflats for all to see and read.
The original site Had the exact wording as used by AKM.
You definitely owe Alaskan bloggers and AKM in particular an apology.
Do Repubs ever apologize?
Hey, you can’t scare me – I’ve raised teen-agers. LOL
got a chuckle when he declared he was NOT a candidate for any office….and then saw this on his blog… Is Alaska different from Cal, in that you file “An Intent to run” and then file AGAIN to actually run ??? sheesh !!
Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Letter of Intent
A letter was filed with APOC yesterday, declaring my intent to become a candidate for Alaska state House in district 22. I would be foolish to campaign as I did two years ago and expect a different outcome.
If I am to become a candidate, I need an organization that includes capable management, a finance director and network of active volunteers.
I do not believe as some, that I live in a district that will not elect a Republican. Any Republican that receives proper support can win this district. If you believe I would serve the interest of the people of Alaska, let me know what you can do to help.
I’m in the phone book . Give me a call.
Contributions up to the legal limit accepted.
Posted by Alaska Fish at 11:01 AM
Poor fish. You were not even running with the big dogs, and looked stupid. I see why you need an “organization” to win a local election.
Good grief!
Why am I always surprised? Republicans really are that stupid. And they really are that mean as evidenced with the attempted smear.
I’ve learned a long time ago, if I’ve read it here its true.
I went to Fish’s Blog and read his BS. If I was moved to post there, I would have posted something like this.
Besides being a bad liar which Mudflats has already proven, you must be fraudulently taking campaign contributions too. Did you or did you not post this….
“Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Letter of Intent
A letter was filed with APOC yesterday, declaring my intent to become a candidate for Alaska state House in district 22. ”
Blah blah blah blah (no need to copy the rest of your ramblings)
and this
“Contributions up to the legal limit accepted.
Posted by Alaska Fish at 11:01 AM”
So are you really running? Or did you just find an easy fraudulent way to get people to send you money?
Get a job cupcake! And maybe a lawyer while you’re at it.
Also, LiladyNY made use of the term “hoisted by one’s petard” earlier. I did the same a few weeks ago, then decided to see exactly what a petard was. I was thinking it was a nautical term such as a mast or a boom……. whooo boy was I wrong. Well it is a boom sort of….. a fart.
Here’s what I discovered by googling.
1. A small bell-shaped bomb used to breach a gate or wall.
2. A loud firecracker.
… See More
(so far so good)
“ETYMOLOGY:
French pétard, from Old French, from peter, to break wind, from pet, a breaking of wind, from Latin peditum, from neuter past participle of pedere, to break wind; see pezd- in Indo-European roots”
(whoops!)
“WORD HISTORY:
The French used pétard, “a loud discharge of intestinal gas,” for a kind of infernal engine for blasting through the gates of a city. “To be hoist by one’s own petard,” a now proverbial phrase apparently originating with Shakespeare’s Hamlet (around 1604) not long after the word entered English (around 1598), means “to blow oneself up with one’s own bomb, be undone by one’s own devices.” ”
(OMG the French built a bomb out of intestinal gas to blast through city gates? No wonder Americans now despise the French!)
“The French noun pet, “fart,” developed regularly from the Latin noun peditum, from the Indo-European root *pezd-, “fart.” ”
I’m blown away so to speak by this discovery. And I thought Shakespeare was classier than this. He now seems so…..common.
But in this case, it fits……. AK Fish was blown up by his own fart so to speak. No wonder his post smelled.
AKM, this act of deception should also be reported to the MSM and HuffPo as an example of Rethuglican dishonesty.
Well, I got off my derriere and stood in line for an hour or so. Listened to everybody speak, voted for the “progressive list” plus one guy from the other side to balance it out, and left. Now I’m dying to know the results! Did they announce the winners? I’d make a totally wild guess that there were maybe 400 people there, (give or take a hundred) and frankly, many of them looked like they probably hunt with automatic machine guns, but hey, this is Alaska, so maybe they were just really manly looking environmentalists. I saw several people that I know (all assuming that I was voting on the anti-environmentalist side) and I politely clapped for every candidate, even the one who started out by announcing that he’s a convicted felon. I’m hoping that there were other “undercover greenies” like me, or else our candidates are in trouble. But Please, somebody post some results. Could the meeting still be in progress at 10:48PM?
Well, I was rash and actually left a comment. So that you all will not have to go there to read it I will copy it here:
Strange, the email you sent out contained the words radical and twisted. Once sent, any “corrections” do not fly down the series of tubes to the original email and “correct” them. The email came from your address. You screwed up, own up.
Ok I agree that this Fish fella stepped on his own D***, but in akbatwomans own words, inadvertantly reveals an absolute truth: “I’m hoping that there were other “undercover greenies” like me, or else our candidates are in trouble.”
The only way greenies and lefties win is.. by deception.
But then, you all already knew that..
It’s not that a Republican could not win District 22, just that Mark can’t (61-39 split last time), especially after this deception.
Mark, you argue for less govt and more personal responsibility–well it’s time to walk the talk. Admit you screwed up, and publicly apologize for defamation of AKM’s character. I’m really looking forward to the next time you come campaigning at my door.
To Rusty @ 74 – you mean like your former governor? or do you mean by winning at the ballot box like Obama did 14 months ago?
Rusty, I was born here 46 years ago. I was undercover because sometimes it can be scary around certain people who like guns as much as many of the people last night do (my father was in Federal Law Enforcement for 30 years and you kind of pick up on these things). Also, there were several people that I know socially and professionally, and from the comments that some of them made, I did not want to possibly ruin my relationship with them over something as dumb as the fact that I was voting against them. I know their views and like them in spite of it, but sometimes people are so rigid that they will throw away a perfectly good friendship over nothing.
I see that the guy who bragged that he was a convicted felon got elected. That tells me that many of the people there were so passionately against the other side that they threw common sense out the window. I myself voted for a guy who was only running to keep the “Defenders of Wildlife Crazies” off the board, but I know him to be a good and honest person who would make thoughtful decisions.
Would you do the same?
Thank you to all the mud pups for bringing out the truth. Chronic liars everywhere especially in affluent positions where millions and millions of federal dollars for the people is being misused and abused. Stupid greedy people lie and cheat to keep their control.