Open Thread – Volcano!
Today’s picture comes to you all the way from Ugashik, Alaska – a lovely fishing hamlet on our scenic west coast.
I’m not the only one who can look out the window and enjoy a little fuming from the earth’s mantle. Behold Chiginagak Volcano, 7000 feet high, and puffing away about 20 miles from the camera in Ugashik. The Alaska Volcano Observatory puts its last activity in July of 1971, but apparently it’s been smoking pretty continually since then. About 4-5 years ago it even broke through the glacier and poisoned nearby Mother Goose Lake. Now that’s pretty harsh.
[photo by Rollie Briggs]
wow! that’s all I can say…
great picture, have a great week everybody
Thank you fro your beautiful photos…..I show everyone I can your website. . .. . . .OT…..Happy MLK Day everyone…….as the Queen has posted some comments form her throne…..please out of respect for MLK and his long fought efforts for civil rights, please do not offer assistance to anyone unless the individual has done all they can to help themselves and then and only then can you extend a helping hand. . . .and don’t look to the govment for any help(anyway, the free cheese is all gone). . . .it’s time for the freedom fighters to come up on the stage……I wish MLK’s family would comment
This is a good day for those who are coming to me for a DEEP Tissue massage…..yes, I am a Licensed Massage Therapist….this comment made my guts tighten and I realize my first client doesn’t like deep tissue…I’m in trouble
Thank you again, AKM, I haven’t commented much lately, extremely busy getting children off to their first apartment after gradumacating from an elite university and going off for further elitist master’s work….and returning my son to his first year of elitist studies, how dare they want to be able to provide for themselves and support their country by bettering themselves and creating a stronger America. . . . I don’t know where I went wrong
Well anyway, carry-on, the day is getting better already…. . . . .off to whoop my first client
Barracuda78 – Thanks for giving us a chuckle to start the day! Shame on you for encouraging your offspring to reach for the sky. Much success to them, and hope you deal well with a steadily emptying nest, and kuddos to you for bringing them up to be all they can be. We spent the weekend helping our grandson move from home to be closer to his excellent job. So hard to let them go, but they must do what is right for them, not always us.
Can you imagine waking up to that glorious site every morning? (As long as one doesn’t have to worry about an imminent eruption!) I envy Ann, Vic, Rollie, and the other villagers of Ugashik.
Very interesting article on the Teabagger movement – highly recommend the reading as it gives a different perspective and insight into who some of those “grassrooters” are.
http://www.alternet.org/story/145145/when_you_throw_a_tea_party_and_no_one_comes%3A_why_it%27s_hard_to_be_a_right-wing_activist
Here’s a bit of the article:
“The right-wing grassroots movement has ballooned in the Obama era and incorporated a large number of people who were never activists before. Many of these neophytes hail from the exurbs, ridicule community organizing and value obedience and social conformity. Having lived most of their adult lives in the conservative America of 1980s and 1990s they have never before considered open revolt – they’re learning as they go.”
Just heard a report on CNN that the MA race is neck-in-neck right now with the latest poll results. Let’s hope President Obama’s appearance turns the tide in Martha’s favor. It is incredible how dirty the Republicans are playing. They save the worst lies for last minute when there is no time left for the Dems to respond or rebut.
I read on one of the other blogs that the Morning Joe crew were discussing Palin’s “all of ‘em” comment regarding the Founding Fathers, and when they went around the table asking all present who their favorite was, Mika said Lincoln. I’m curious if she is really that stupid or was she mocking Palin? It seems that some of the MSNBC folks who were pro-Palin are now waking up……even Chris Matthews! Let’s hope some of her ‘bots start to face reality.
From as far back as I can remember, the term “give me your John Hancock” was used when one needed to sign something. Was that not a common term outside of New England? I would have thought Palin would have been able to come up with him as one of the FF.
Finally warming up again here in SWKentucky, but it continues to rain and I have my personal Mudflats in my backyard.
barracuda78
You must be one of those East Coast libruls ‘cuz it’s pretty clear you are trying to undermine the very fabric of the Real ‘Murika by progressing a elitist Marxist, socialistic communistic Ism. Don’t you know your precious gifts of children, even those with special needs, are going to be INDOCTRINATED with Science and Mathematics and English and Literature. It must be stopped at all costs. Your kids don’t need edumacation. They need GUNS and more donations to SarahPAC and don’t let anyone take away their Medicare!
LOL
Srsly, very good job barracuda78.
Here’s another little chuckle to start off our day:
Shopping find of the day: a Pat Robertson voodoo doll is being sold on Ebay, 100% of proceeds to benefit the Red Cross:
After an exclusive deal with devil, we are finally able to bring black magic into your very own home! The lucky winner of this auction will attain the soul of Televangelist PAT ROBERTSON in a handheld figurine comprised of the finest straw, cloth, and other organic natural materials! BID NOW to own your very own physical representation of the dark, dark soul of Pat Robertson.
As of this writing the bidding is up to $520.00.
forgive me for being lazy this am and not investigating this on my own..but has Alaska thought about using PDF funds towards geothermal to generate electricity, rather than putting it in their pockets ? you know, actually USE the oil money for the future of Alaska instead of pissing it away ??
GreatGranny2C- yes, using ‘John Hancock’ is a common term. I learned it as a girl when I was still living on the left coast.
Sarah posted a nice statement (surprise, surprise!) honoring MLK. Apparently, a number of racist comments were posted, and she then posted another remark putting those statements down. All I can say is that it’s about time she stood up for something decent! Some of her followers are mighty religious to the point of being scary. Here are just a couple of the comments elevating her above everyone else:
Sharon Garner Gurnaby Sarah: I am reading your book and now I see the calling on your life. The Lord has set you up for a great mission. I know you are on the path He has ordained for you
5 hours agoSusan Sarah, I could see you and Dr. Martin King working together in this country …that would have been a real dream!
Okay – that’s my once-a-month reading on her site, so I won’t copy anything else for another month.
in exile (SC version) – Glad to know that it was a familiar term elsewhere……….but maybe not Alaska, or else Sarah never understood the connection of his name to his signature on such an important document.
GreatGranny@4 “I read on one of the other blogs that the Morning Joe crew were discussing Palin’s “all of ‘em” comment regarding the Founding Fathers, and when they went around the table asking all present who their favorite was, Mika said Lincoln. I’m curious if she is really that stupid or was she mocking Palin?”
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Someone posted the clip on a right wing site to mock the intelligence of the commentators at MSNBC. I had to watch it over and over to even catch the comment. Mika couldn’t get a word in edgewise and was talking under the folks already yammering, but eventually, yes, it did sound like she said Lincoln (Actually, it sounded like Mencken to me … ) and she may have been serious, I’m not sure. If so, yeah, it’s a bit on the ignorant side but what the guy who posted it failed to note, and the commenters who all agreed failed to note, is the big difference between Sarah’s situation and Mika’s situation is that Mika has not pretended that she thinks she is capable of being the President of the United States, while Sarah Palin, on Bill O’Rielly just as she was starting her book tour in November, was asked point blank by Bill if she thought she was ready (his exact words may have been ‘smart enough’, I’m, not sure) to be President of the US and Sarah said she was.
Pardon me if I expect someone who thinks they can be POTUS to have more smarts than a TV news commentator.
Of course, that’s all Sarah is now, and all she will ever be (if that, for long anyway). Anyone been over the the Sea of Peeeeeple who now no longer like Fox, Beck and Billo and reminded them, once again, that Sarah is NOT going to run for Pres.? They hate that. Reminds them of what chumps they are for having donated to SarahPAC.
*shrugs* I would be willing to cut Sarah some slack regarding the fave FF question had she just answered honestly: “You know, I don’t really know enough about them as individuals to have a “favorite.” No shame there. MOST Amercians probably don’t have a fave FF. But to hem and haw and say stupid crap (they were so DIVERSE?!! Hello! They were all landed gentry from the same cultural background) as if she knew so much about them that it was hard for her to pick just one.
It’s just indicative of her willingness to craft a duplicitous image. Like the “bus tour”, there’s no point to it except to mislead.
Great volcano pic.
Did Palin really mean that loves all 74 delegates who are credited with being the Founding Fathers? These delegates attended the Convention which developed the language for the Declaration of Independence and The Constitution and are thus termed the Founding Fathers. Or maybe Palin was only referring to the 57 who signed the Declaration of Independence when she said that loved them all? Or maybe she meant the 41 who signed the Constitution but not the 13 who left the convention without signing? And if she loves all the “Founding Fathers, then she also admires Elbridge Gerry (whose opposition to the Constitution inspired the Bill or Rights), George Mason and Edmund Randolph even though these three Founding Fathers refused to sign the Constitution.
@GG2C
East Coast here – my father used that phrase, sign your John Hancock, all the time! I’ve even said it a time or two. : )
Since you “elite types” were wondering about $P, here is a good article to read:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/26133
If $P could read and had any brains, now would be the time to go hide under a rock. But I’m not getting my hopes up.
For any of you that know anyone in MA, please do your own Get Out The Vote, and ask them to please get their friends and neighbors to do so as well, especially after reading that link. The R’s are not interested in anything but money for a few. Don’t let them screw the rest of the country by voting for Brown.
From the link:
“Ah, but it gets so much deeper as we descend through the regressive spiral of lies. Because what McCain did in this case is what regressives do all the time. Any honest assessment of contemporary American politics would immediately reveal that more or less everything the Republican Party (and now most of the Democrats as well) does today is treason of this sort. Lie Number Eight is that they actually care about security. Or freedom. Or religion. Or guns. Or who you get to sleep with or marry. The truth is that these are almost entirely diversionary ploys to make sure that you don’t notice their real purpose, which is to abet the oligarchy in looting every dollar possible from America and Americans.
And these diversionary tactics of the regressive elite work so well because of Lie Number Nine regarding those they readily manipulate. All the nice folks on the right will claim that their shock troops are rationally deciding what’s best for America in determining their allegiances and their votes, just like the Founders intended. But this is nonsense. Sarah Palin has shown herself to be a boob of first proportions, an even bigger one than George W. Bush. In both cases, however, their supporters love them even more for it. These politicians play perfectly to the insecurities of right-wing voters, who respond intensely to the emotional content of their rhetoric. This is the politics of resentment, and political figures who are (or can appear to be) exceptionally ordinary are only more revered, not less, for the big finger they supposedly send to so-called liberal elites.”
Post # 8 – greatgranny2c said:
“Sarah posted a nice statement (surprise, surprise!) honoring MLK.”
I highly doubt that she actually posted it. Just like her book, I would surmise that anything that turns up in print credited to her, did not come from her, but one of her ‘handlers’.
That’s called “damage control before it’s needed’.
On a side note, About.com has a gathering of Sarah Palin cartoons that are just hilarious. Up to 132 and counting are now posted.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Cartoons/
Especially liked the one titled “Finally, A Fair Interview”
This SHOULD cost Exxon every second of every day.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/18/exxon-valdez-oil-trapped_n_426842.html
@6 benlomond2
Re the oil royalties which fund most of our state government :
There is an ever increasing push to develop and fund a real energy policy here. This session we are due to see what mix of renewable, alternative, and usual energy is being considered in what may actually end up being a real energy program. Maybe. Hope so.
http://www.energy.aksenate.org/
PFD is different fund…
Oh my , I think I have found the perfect shoes for sarah.
http://i.imgur.com/WFax0.jpg
@austintx #16
That should have come with a warning to have vomit bag handy!
@austintx #16
LOL Are they available in red???
Fun Sarah cartoons:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/ig/Sarah-Palin-Cartoons/Comedian-For-Fox.0zVa.htm
Oops, I hadn’t noticed that this (my above post) had been posted earlier.
4 GreatGranny2C Says:
Let’s hope some of her ‘bots start to face reality.
It will be interesting to see how long it will take all but her most rabid fans to tire of the repetition of her tiny fact-deprived agenda. How many times can she say “common sense solution” and not specify what exactly that entails?
I’m surprised (not) that Palin, or at least Beck did not mention Franklin. After all Ben was the common man in a group of “public” school educated elites.
It was Ben who leaked the plan to give the vote to only those who “owned” property. The press passed that tid-bit along and the elitist plan failed.
Ben may have been a sexual “B” and a bit of a pig but he gets my vote for favorite, and should have gotten Palin’s, assuming she knows who he is other than a face on some of her money.
How can she run for, or deserve an appointed, office with a video clip of her face and response when asked such a simple Ameruhcan third grade level question?
How can Fox not look like amature hour if the actually keep her as a pundit when that clip can be rerun every time she has the same reaction?
5 LiladyNY Says:
The voodoo doll is tooooo much! Wish I had some bucks to bid.
Granny
Put your John Hanckcock on it.
Yup. Heard it a lot in Texas growing up. Not so much in the last decades though.
me too and also there, marnie…
i was raised in texas and always heard “put your john hancock on it” from the grandparents, etc.
For those not wanting to spoil their day by checking out SPs ‘fan club’, below is the “rail” she showed when bots made ugly comments on her Fb page.
A few things to note:
1) barracuda78 @ 3 did a bang-up job of taking SPs words to heart (LOL!!!),
2) SP made no such ‘railing’ when the same bots were calling for harrassment of judges in the Tripp custody case,
3) the ugly posted on her Fb page is being blamed on ‘Democrat trolls/operatives’ to “make her look bad”, and,
4) The “By the way … ” junk of her “rail” is soooooooo SP. Mayhap she should, for starters, go down to Haiti or over to Somalia and see how well the ‘no government’ she advocates, works in reality? And she wouldn’t know equality if it came up and snatched her bumpit right off the top of her head; as she’s shown time and time again, her view of “equality” is that it’s her birthright…it’s no one else’s.
As someone, somewhere, has already mentioned re: SPs “rail” and the posting of it: she should have just stopped after the first sentence. beth.
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“Thank you, Facebookers, who are slamming down racist comments. My Facebook page is not going to be used as a forum for people who spew this stuff. By the way, I appreciate the comments that remind us that with equal rights come equal responsibility to provide for ourselves and families, and to contribute to those in need. We can’t rely on government to provide for our livelihoods, health or happiness.”
http://www.conservatives4palin.com/2010/01/governor-palin-rails-against-racist.html
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#14 GA Peach
I too was reading the info on the Valdez and was going to link it over here to mudflats — glad many are on the same page to environmental damages & clean up.
Enjoy the holiday everyone!
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ”
~ MLK, Jr.
And considering the recent HBO series on John Adams [not to mention David McCullough's wonderful book that the series was based upon], who could not possibly be a John Adams fan?
But hey, Washington was allright, and McCullough’s book 1776 makes the case that he was perfect for the tasks he had to face – heading the army, then heading the new country.
After I read McCullough’s book, tho, John Adams became one of my personal heroes.
About Palin dissing the racists on her site. She DIDN’T!
If you read her comment further she then says—
“with equal rights come equal responsibility to provide for
ourselves and our families and to contribute to those in need.
We can’t rely on the government to provide for our livelihoods,
health or happiness.”
Or–African American need to get off welfare.
And anyone who knows her mean girl routine realizes this is
EXACTLY what she means.
Pretty big racist talk from a woman who did nothing while working for the government and whose children are getting free government health care
for the rest of their lives.
tns, nswfm#12, that was indeed an interesting read. Can our system of democracy be made to work to have government be a countervailing power to the oligarchy?
I like Obama’s fee recovery bank tax – but it seems to have dropped out of the news today. Hmmmmmm….
Europe’s Growing Offshore Wind Capacity
http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/18/europes-growing-offshore-wind-capacity/
I wonder what the environmental impact of all those wind farms will have but it has to beat oil spilling into our oceans
New Scott Brown twist:
The Senate race in Massachusetts has taken an ugly turn.
A video is circulating in which Republican Scott Brown seemingly smiles at a violent, sexist taunt directed at his Democratic challenger Martha Coakley at a rally.
“Shove a curling up HER butt,” shouted one attendee off-camera. Brown, holding a bullhorn, seemed to smile and nod in acknowledgement.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/01/18/2010-01-18_curling_iron_rape_remark_leveled_at_martha_coakley_by_scott_brown_supporter_may_.html#ixzz0czHtaMzu
In honor of Martin Luther King Day, for all who would divide us or claim that only some are “real Americans”, here is an incredible story of amazing heroism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ7968BbMnU
Leota2 – your deeper reading of the hidden message is dead-on. Matt Taibbi takes on the smug David Brooks over this issue:
http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/01/18/translating-david-brooks-haiti/
He doesn’t mince words, so those with delicate racist sensibilities might want to be sure to have the smelling salts handy and get positioned next to the fainting couch.
Happy MLK Day everyone!!
Can anyone tell me whatever came of this??:
Sarah Palin Rejects Juneteenth Settlement, State Incurs More Legal Costs
Former Governor Sarah Palin, in the wake of her much publicized book and upcoming interview on Oprah, has rejected a settlement offer in the 2009 Juneteenth lawsuit. The Plaintiffs’ settlement offer, made by jazz musician Gregory Charles Royal and former Palin supporter Kim Chatman, was for Palin to merely follow through on what Alaska Assistant Attorney General Margaret Paton-Walsh said Palin would do: issue the 2007 proclamation.
Washington, DC (PRWEB) November 4, 2009 — Former Governor Sarah Palin, in the wake of her much publicized book and upcoming interview on Oprah, has rejected a settlement offer in the 2009 Juneteenth lawsuit (Case no. 3:09-cv-00091 United States District Court of Alaska). The plaintiffs’ settlement offer, made by jazz musician Gregory Charles Royal and former Palin supporter Kim Chatman, was for Palin to merely follow through on what Alaska Assistant Attorney General Margaret Paton-Walsh said Palin would do: issue the 2007 proclamation.
Palin has been accused by the plaintifffs and has publicly admitted that she failed to issue the 2007 Juneteenth Day Proclamation which was required under Alaska statute. Palin has also been accused by African American leaders in Alaska as being the first governor in the state not to support the holiday observance.
The defendant is cautioned that so long as a party receives sufficient notice of the complaint, Rule 4 is to be liberally construed to uphold service’ Commenting on Walsh’s statement made in a July 2009 Associated Press article “that the governor is going to issue the 2007 proclamation” and that “a very big deal is being made out of a very small clerical error”, Royal said: “Palin’s choice, which should be clear to everybody at this point, to defy the African-American observance demonstrates exactly why we pushed in a lawsuit, what some called a trivial issue. We knew what she would do and just sat back to watch it play out. Her motivations, which as far as their racial component, we will let the public debate. Her claims that public resources have been wasted fighting ethics complaint is, well need I say more? The cost of our settlement for her to comply with the law, zero. The continuing cost to the state for her to evade issuing the proclamation, I’m sure she knows the math.”
In a October 26th order, Alaska District Court judge Timothy Burgess has also ordered Palin to explain by November 4th, her claims that she has not been served the lawsuit which sparked a flurry of motions in August:
“It is unclear to the Court whether the defendant continues to contest that she was served”….”If service is still contested, the defendant must explain what steps she believes the plaintiffs must now take in order to properly serve her, and how she suggests this be accomplished.” ” The defendant is cautioned that so long as a party receives sufficient notice of the complaint, Rule 4 is to be liberally construed to uphold service’”……”Among other attempts at service, the plaintiffs filed an unexecuted service of summons stating that when their process server attempted to serve the defendant at the Governor’s Office, her executive secretary refused to accept service.”….”Sufficient service may be found where there is a good faith effort to comply with the requirements (for service) and further compliance … is only prevented by the defendant’s knowing and intentional actions to evade service.”
In that same order, judge Burgess provided Royal and Chatman an opportunity to correct certain deficiencies in their complaint for the court to retain jurisdiction by November 18th. Royal feels confident they will meet that burden.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/11/prweb3148544.htm
Raining here hard this morning in n~calif…. already have some closed hwys and this is just the beginning..
Have a great MLK day …Take time to hug your friends and family…
Thank you AKM~ for all you do..
Little Rock look out… here she comes.
http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2010/jan/18/palin-coming-north-little-rock/?latest
# 29 twain12
I have to agree. There may be some problems with wind farms on land or on the ocean, but huffpost has an article about the Exon oil stuck still on the beaches because of the type of gravel on it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/18/exxon-valdez-oil-trapped_n_426842.html
It gets into the smaller gravel where the oxygen can’t get to it. So instead of the “few years” where the oil would degrade, there is none.
Health & peace to all! I sent the link with Dr. Steiner’s latest post to Oceana. They probably have MLK Day off, but they’re very good at disseminating info. I hope they — and you, and your families — are enjoying it.
The Arkansas speech provides further evidence of her desire to run for President.
Mo—Thanks for the link to Matt Taibbi.
I just worry that we will have an entire generation who
will continue to miss some of the veiled hateful meanings of much
that is written in these hateful times.
And can I just say–people like Palin and the other wingnuts and teabaggers and even NY Times Op-Eders think they can get away with veiled racist verbal jousting as long as they don’t say n*gger. This is because they see the world simplistically, insensitively and racially. Vigilance in calling them out (which is what Taibbi did to Brooks) is the only way to out them.
Again, thanks for the link.
Sarah Pac will be one year old in about 10 days. There goals include,
Quote sarah pac
Health care, education, and reform of government are among our key goals. Join us today!
also
Quote sarah pac
SarahPac will support local and national candidates who share Gov. Palin’s ideas and goals for our country.
I think that the President having just finished his first year in office and with the numerous complaints from Sarah about how he’s handled his job. Saharh should look at the complexities of the Presidents job compared to running Sarah Pac. If you can not run Sarah Pac without the Federal Election Commission finding fundamental operating illegalities, how does she think she could run a country?
Contributions to the PAC: $732,767. And just $10,000 spent in contributions to John McCainLisa and Murkowski For U.S. Senate. I guess the contributions to health care, education, and reform of government are all given in the form of lip services. There no bang for your bux at Sarah PAC. It cost $68,000 for Sahah Pac to make the two contributions of $10,000. May be best Sarah take her eye off the Presadent, and see if she can run her own back yard.
On the Mud Flats Fourm.
pacos_gal
has posted this handy link to were the money is going.
http://palinquestions.blogspot.com/2010/01/follow-money-ii.html
Maybe winky should take a gander at the recently posted film clip of Katie Couric in Haiti on huff-po “Because Katie, you’re not the center of every one’s universe.” Katie Couric has more compassion and intelligence in her little finger than that fraudulent, nitwit grifter has in her entire being. So please silly sarah “sit down & stfu, or put your money where your mouth is.” As always, I’m so ashamed to share my gender with bottom feeding low life like you. How about sending some of scamming $ to Haiti? Selfish twit.
Hey jc in co@44, don’t sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel!
Also, had to endure some Rush today and he went on about how high administrative costs are when ‘government’ runs something and I think he quoted Medicare a 28% administrative cost, so only 72 cents of every dollar goes towards the actual ‘care’ part of Medicare.
Hey Rush, did you know you girlie Sarah’s PAC (at least at the last filing – end of June 2009) only gave $10,000 of what it collected to the causes it said it was going to support? Everything else was administrative.
Thanks peter d@43 for posting the link to where you can read the numbers, but I think I remember reading there that that means if you gave a hundred dollars to SarahPAC, only 50 cents of it got where she said it would get to. That’s something like a 99.5% administrative cost.
Sarah Palin a fiscal conservative? I think not.
So yes, the way she administers her PAC will be absolutely indicative of how she would run the country.
How can anybody still consider her a serious candidate? How?
@ Martha # 35
The Juneteenth case was dismissed but here’s the mind-boggling aspect: ” Plaintiffs say they just learned the Juneteenth proclamation was issued – as required by state law – retroactively just before Palin’s July resignation…..(snip)…..The proclamation document is signed by Palin and dated July 17. That’s the same day Paton-Walsh filed a motion to dismiss and nine days before Palin stepped down as governor. Paton-Walsh said she was aware at the time that a proclamation was in the works, but did not know the timing of it then.”
(The failure to sign the 2007 Juneteenth proclamation was defended on the basis of a “clerical error.”)
http://www.newsminer.com/pages/full_story/push?article-Judge+dismisses+Juneteenth+lawsuit+against+Palin+%20&id=5486434&instance=palin_in_the_news
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SGE60E00G.htm — is about the discovery in the wilds of Afghanistan of the large-billed reed warbler. This is the first time the bird has been seen in 20 years! Not *ALL* the news from Afghanistan sux! Health and peace.
Mother Goose Lake? seriously? lol
austintx Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 6:28 AM
Oh my , I think I have found the perfect shoes for sarah.
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oh my. imagine those shoes walking their wearer into the White house.
#45 Terp, sorry I have to sugar coat how I feel about princess sparkleburst or AKM would ban me. Katie’s clip is on the “media” page of huff-po. Have tissue ready………………..
Leota2 Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 10:24 AM
Mo—Thanks for the link to Matt Taibbi.
I just worry that we will have an entire generation who
will continue to miss some of the veiled hateful meanings of much
that is written in these hateful times.
And can I just say–people like Palin and the other wingnuts and teabaggers and even NY Times Op-Eders think they can get away with veiled racist verbal jousting as long as they don’t say n*gger. This is because they see the world simplistically, insensitively and racially. Vigilance in calling them out (which is what Taibbi did to Brooks) is the only way to out them.
Again, thanks for the link.************************************************
Mo and Leota………………..thank you. it just never stops does it?
46 Lee323 Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 12:00 PM
Thank you………..what a bunch of………bullcrap!
Between Palin’s Juneteenth debacle and McCain’s voting record on trying to first prevent MLK Day in Arizona then voting to abolish it………these two are the most openly racist POTUS/VP candidates in history!
And now for another McCain lie: Palin was thoroughly vetted:
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/2010/01/17/20100117politics-nowicki0117.html
jc in co -
Well , goes without sayin’ that I like your style. Btw , I be goin’ to your lovely state very soon.
Palin behind the wheel at Daytona:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/17/sports/autoracing/17sportsbriefs-Palin.html
As a woman who loves to throw around her mothering credentials, she sure doesn’t seem to spend a lot of time with them does she (unless, of course, it’s in front of a camera).
So, S’arah claims all the Founders are her favorite – or at least that she likes them all b/c of their “diversity.” I wonder if that really extends to those whose diversity includes these views on religion?
Thomas Paine, Pamphleteer, Revolutionary writer, inventor, intellectual.
“Reasoning with one who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to a dead man.”
“The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion.”
“I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of… Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all.”
George Washington, 1st POTUS
John Adams, 2nd POTUS
Adams was drawn to the study of law but faced pressure from his father to become a clergyman. He wrote that he found among the lawyers ‘noble and gallant achievments,” but among the clergy, the “pretended sanctity of some absolute dunces.” Late in life he wrote,
Thomas Jefferson, 3rd POTUS
James Madison, 4th POTUS
“Strongly guarded as is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by ecclesiastical bodies may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.”
“During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”
Abraham Lincoln, 16th POTUS
“The Bible is not my book and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma.”
Benjamin Franklin, Author, printer, politician, scientist, inventor, civic activist (community organizer?), diplomat:
And speaking through Poor Richard, 1758:
It would seem that many of our Founders would have some strong disagreement with the views of S’arah and others as to whether they intended no barring of the conflation of politics and religion, and on the issue of whether they founded a Christian nation. We would do well to remember that our Founders learned the lessons of just such a history.
Desert Mudpup -
Hey , thanks for posting those quotes.
56 Desert Mudpup Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 12:41 PM
GREAT………..post!!!!
LOVE it…………..
OMG -
Yeah baby , let’s go racin’ !!
http://i.imgur.com/48I5q.jpg
Desert Mudpup,..fantastic post! Please oh please send this info to Rachel Maddow and Andrew Sullivan.
Bea -
If you are around , your photoshopping skills could have some fun with that pic. I just linked. Pretty please ??
Desert Mudpup Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 12:41 PM
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awesome post desert mudpup! wow. … hope you don’t mind that i passed it on to a friend.
Austintx @59
Is that WARoss on the picture ? Loosing his briefs in effort to pull in the paunch.
#54 austintx, what part of my fair state are you headed? Did you all notice that franklin graham invited greta instead of cookie bearing winky to go with him down to Haiti? Everything ended up being a debacle, wouldn’t let frank & greta land at Port au Prince air strip & they had to go back to Miami. Franklin probably didn’t invite the nitwit knowing her aversion to people of color.
I agree, great post Desert Mudpup.
33 laprofesora @ 33 -In honor of Martin Luther King Day, for all who would divide us or claim that only some are “real Americans”, here is an incredible story of amazing heroism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ7968BbMnU
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Thanks for sharing this link. I’m reposting so anyone who missed this on the first page can check it out. Amazing story of bravery and heroism…the REAL kind!
What a special man….I’m so glad he was recognized and awarded the Medal of Honor. He certainly deserved it!
It was noted that Palin invited herself to the races as a VIP…they did not invite her! She is sooo, sooo important!
I frankly wasn’t sure my last post would be well received. I know there are many Christian Mudflatters, so let me point out that my issue is not with Christians or Christianity per se, but with those who would seek to impose their favorite flavor of it on the rest of us, or more specifically, on me. If, whenever my neighbors get Beer, they came spouting Beer in my face and trying to dunk my head in it and insisting that I, too, must get Beer lest I suffer endlessly, and not just any Beer mind you – their Beer – the Right Beer – I would have the same issue (knowing as I already do that Corona is the one true beer) with Beer Drinkers.
Christian government is not an alien concept in America – the colonies had their own religio-perverted governments, plus they were under British rule, and therefore the Church of England was also the Official church of the colonies. The rebellion against England was also a rebellion against the imposition of the state-sanctioned church. It was a true mark of American progress when a change in Massachusetts law resulted only in fines and imprisonment – instead of a hot poker through your tongue – for daring to question the veracity of the Bible as the perfect word of God. (I so far have found no mention of their all wearing red shirts.) Such was the socio-political environment of the Founders. I think to say that the Founders intended in any way to perpetuate such a cultural nightmare is a deep and vicious insult to the Founders.
The site linked below has a large collection of essays and excerpts from personal papers and letters of the Founders, and includes numerous accounts of their views on Separation, followed by personal views on religion. While the Xn wingnuts pound the table and scream that Separation is an illusion created by the SCOTUS of the mid-twentieth century, it is important to remember that the Justices, as far back as the early 19th century, in their own research on the issue, and being somewhat short on legal precedents, visited the personal writings of the Founders to deduce and clarify their most likely intent, and establish the legal precedents which have been followed by the Court since then. It seems one’s eye must truly be jaundiced by religious prejudice to read those same papers, letters and essays and come to a conclusion opposite that of the Court. The fact that religious “scholars” can do just that, and then scream and stomp their feet in defense of their conclusion, just serves to reinforce the wisdom of absolute Separation.
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_founders.html
Things are looking up in the Mass race……I wanted to get this to Shannyn but missed, dang.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/18/all-tied-up-coakley-and-b_n_427131.html
“With just one day to go before the election, a new poll of potential voters in the upcoming Massachusetts Senate race has it all tied up between Attorney General Martha Coakley and state senator Scott Brown.
Forty-eight percent of respondents said they would vote for both candidates, according to a just released Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll of 500 commonwealth voters.”
here’s Brown caught on tape acknowledging the crude comment. That was rude!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/17/brown-takes-lead-campaign_n_426679.html
Desert Mudpup…once again, an excellent post. Since the religious right got a foothold in the Republican party some years ago, I have been scratching my head about this very issue. The Founding Fathers, regardless of their personal religious beliefs, thought it essential to provide for a separation of church and state.
We can not expect the likes of Palin and Beck to understand real history since they don’t want to be confused with facts. They are ultimately con artists who will use whatever made up nonsense they feel that they can get away with to rise as far as the public will let them.
“MOST Amercians probably don’t have a fave FF”
The whole premise is just a piece of Blech’s rodeo clown schtick: best this, worst that, scariest thing ever, wait this is more scariest …. blah blah blah.
Glenn Blech. Biggest Waste Of Space and an insult to real Rodeo Clowns everywhere.
Hey everybody…….google Coakley! Brown is saying searches for him are 3 times more than for Coakley and is making the news stoking even more interest for him.
This race is also really pumping up the Repub party!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/17/brown-takes-lead-campaign_n_426679.html
make that google: Martha Coakley.
Desert Mudpup, love your quotes! go post them on her fb see how long they last…
66 leenie17 Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 2:00 PM
33 laprofesora @ 33 -In honor of Martin Luther King Day, for all who would divide us or claim that only some are “real Americans”, here is an incredible story of amazing heroism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ7968BbMnU
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Thanks for the link.
Just looked at the video. I’m speechless.
jc in co -
I will be going to Boulder ( hippie heaven ) to see my daughter. Then on to Steamboat.
Desert Mudpup -
Well received here and thanks again.
# 56 and 68 Desert Mudpup
Ditto on great post!
Palin and her ilk (who worship at the false idol of those “Christian Founding Fathers”) are breathtaking in their ignorance and bias.
I posted this at the bottom of the last open thread late last night but in case anyone missed it, I’m reposting. If Brown wins Ted Kennedy’s old seat tomorrow, not only will a Republican be in that seat but a Tea Bagger Liar will be in that seat. Unbelievable if Mass. voters let that happen:
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“Stealth Candidate Scott Brown Is Lying about his Beliefs”
“Thinks extremist Sarah Palin has the right values? Check. Racist birther? Check.
But is he a teabagger? When asked about the Tea Party movement, Brown does the GOPPER dance of duck and dodge, asking what the interviewer is referring to. See, that’s how moderate and removed from extremism Scott Brown is! Oh, oopsie, Scooter…what’s this?
“For the 2010 Senate race, Brown is supported by the Greater Boston Tea Party group, which organized a January 2010 fundraising breakfast for him in Boston, WHICH HE ATTENDED (emphasis mine). Eleven days later, the Boston Globe reported that Brown claimed that he was unfamiliar with the “Tea Party movement,” when asked by a reporter. The Tea Party Express has endorsed Brown’s campaign”.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/node/7440
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/14/scott-brown-held-tea-part_n_423198.html
Desert Mudpup: Thank you for the selected quotes. That ol’ Tom Paine just never did know how to speak softly about anything, eh?
There are, indeed, many Christian mudpuppies, but they are among the many Christians who have faith but do not feel the need to bludgeon others over the head with it. I was raised Christian, although I am not properly one anymore — perhaps, like some of the Founders, I am a Deist. However, the principles of Christianity — the words of Jesus — set admirable goals for how to live. None of us should forget where the Golden Rule comes from.
Many of my friends and family are believers of one kind or another, and the vast majority of them are content to believe (and occasionally, gently offer to help me join them in faith). They are not nascent theocrats.
I am confident that our muddy Christian friends understand that your selected quotes are not intended as an attack on Christianity. They are just the opinions of some historical figures, and should have no more impact on anyone’s personal faith than, say, the opinion of Richard Dawkins. The key point they illustrate is that the political creators of the United States were NOT uniformly Christian, and that they really did mean the First Amendment.
BTW, I do have a favorite FF: TJ, warts and all.
@austintx: So, schussing? Boulder is a great place.
Those two sentence fragments were unrelated.
@33 laprofesora — While I wish that his heroism had been unnecessary, even the most blockedheaded dittohead should realize that MSgt Benevidez was a “realer” American than most of us.
Of course, they won’t.
Say NO to Palin in Politics Says:
January 18th, 2010 at 3:02 PM
Hey everybody…….google Coakley! Brown is saying searches for him are 3 times more than for Coakley and is making the news stoking even more interest for him.
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I’m not so sure that these google searches are a good thing for Brown.
It might mean several things. People have heard about the nekkid picture and want to check it out.
Or it might mean that some folks are interested in looking beyond a pretty *ahem* face and are actually taking some time to learn more about him.
On the other hand, if Martha Coakley loses it will be because she ran a terrible campaign, sat on a huge lead and let the negative messages get out of control without rebuttal for several weeks over the holidays.
Personally, I am still hopeful that she can win by a slim margin. Otherwise I don’t think President Obama would have gone to Massachusetts. It’s all about the GOTV effort now.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2010/01/18/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry6113291.shtml
Poll: Most Don’t Want Sarah Palin to Run for President
A new CBS News poll finds that a large majority of Americans say they do not want former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to run for president.
Specifically, 71 percent say they do not want the former Republican vice presidential nominee to run for president, while 21 percent say they do want her to run.
When the results are split out by party, 56 percent of Republicans say they do not want her to seek the office and 30 percent do. Meanwhile, 88 percent of Democrats do not want her to run. Among independents, 65 percent do not want her to run and 25 percent do.
The poll also finds that more people view Palin negatively than positively and that her book tour did not improve overall views of her. However, she is a little better-known now than she was last fall, and both favorable and unfavorable ratings of her have increased slightly.
strangelet -
Smiling here.
There is absolutely no shame and no end …
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/
Lee323 –
The checks had cleared after 11 days.
austintx, ah yes, Boulder hippie heaven! If you’re doing some skiing in Steamboat many of the ski areas are looking at a lot of new snow in the next week. Have fun!
Thanks for those quotes and source for more, Desert Mudpup!
@ austintx 89
Hahaha….you nailed that one perfectly.
Absolutely chilling post by Leah Burton below….. Bible scriptures on the scopes of rifles used by American military in Iraq and Afghanistan! If you haven’t been alarmed by the dominionism movement in this country, you will be thoroughly alarmed by the time you’re finished reading her post “Biblical Gunsights….Forced to Look Down’s God’s Barrel.”
“This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country,” said Weinstein. “It’s literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we’re fighting. We’re emboldening an enemy.” ~ Mikey Weinstein, Founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation
This story will also be airing on ABC’s Nightline tonight in much greater depth.”
Read the whole post here:
http://godsownparty.com/blog/2010/01/biblical-gunsights-forced-to-look-down-gods-barrel/
Big Day Queen, I agree, she was complacient and dropped the ball, but I also think the Dem party dropped the ball. The Repugs snuck up and stole her lead, much while we good Dems were distracted by Scarah debuting Fake News, then the Haiti devastation. The Repugs never let up a beat, they had their eye on the end game, move in on an overly confident opponent, yet no Dem seemed to be watching or sounding an alarm.
Those same people who fed their families rice in order to send money to Scarah are the same that have a fire in their gut to now back any Repub, just to ‘take back their (cough) country’, hell those tea baggers will stir up so much angst the red necks may sell a few of their guns or hot rods just to donate to this cause. Scarah’s job is; to stir the pot of unrest, discomfort, fear and anger, push them to give bucks, get them out to help, vote and rally around the under dog Repubs. Because Murdoch, the big corps and the Repubs do not want any change. Nope, they want their power and control back.
Sigh, to me, what happens now, happens, we go on from there. I hope for the best. But dang it, watch what the other guys are doing! Pay attention!
Lee323 -
Yes sir , that is some sick , messed up s^*t.
sigh
Scarah may be stupid as sh*t, but the machine behind her is strong.
Murdoch via Harper Collins controlled both, Scarah’s book release and month long tour blitz, her Fake news debut and Game Change release (number of books to be printed, also too). Now the speaking gigs are being announced one after another.
I don’t like this one bit, she doesn’t have to do what the “republican strategists” said she should do after the failed bid in order to run again, nope, they were talking logic, she had no desire to go on and Murdoch explained how to make the most without it, in other words how to work it, he explained to her what matters is that she STAY controversial, divisive and in the news, no matter if she’s a comedians dream or attacked, if so all the better that only brings more FREE publicity. No more than 3 days without an action to draw attention.
She now has a large ignorant fan base, who would defend her against anything and give their last 1.00 to support her, she also has fools willing to spend hundreds to listen to her drivel from a speech writer. She only needs to stay looking good and sexy for the pricey crowd. All are paying for her ‘presence’. She has convinced a percentage of people to believe in her, yet shows them no reason why.
Thoughtful discussion here. Thank you mudflatters! The information (and/or refresher course) on the Founding Fathers is especially important at this time and for the future. How could far too large a segment of this country not know what ‘separation of church and state’ means?
Courage is the result of the ability to empathize with human beings. Mama Grizzlies are devoid of the capacity to do so.
Losing the Massachusetts Senate seat would not be the end of the world. And it will not be the end of President Obama’s agenda. Look how quickly they announced today that The State of the Union address will be next Wednesday!
Obama and his team are strategizers..something is in the works. My thoughts are that President Obama is going to announce a deficit reduction challenge that will be part and parcel for all legislation going forward and that he is going to hammer that home. This would take some of the wind out of the teabagger sails and make the GOPers look really , really bad if they continue to say “NO” when it would reduce the deficit.
I saw that post Lee323 and i was shocked.
http://www.trijicon.com/about.cfm
Trijicon’s vision, mission, and values. I think they should read those quotes from our founding fathers. Might have to rephrase the part about Americans goodness being based on biblical standards throughout our history.
How can anyone even think she comes close to being anything like MLK.She is nothing compared to him.She is in no way comparable to him or President Obama and those who think she is need to get their heads on straight