Open Thread – Bad Plan
Note to self:
If I ever steal a snowmachine and try to evade police in my truck with a tub of methamphetamines, do not…. I repeat, do NOT bury myself in snow up to my neck to hide. [click]
Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics
Now that was not a good idea!
He should have just stuck his head in like an ostrich, then, after he’d frozen solid, at least the community would have had somewhere to park their bikes.
Here in the States, the right wing would call them Investigative Journalists.
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More of the Bush legacy surfacing – human trafficking, worker rights suppression enabled by collusion on the part of ICE. “Guest Worker” doesn’t mean what we thought it meant.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marielena-hincapie/ice-and-big-business-too_b_448277.html
ok, this is an open thread. A new topic. A stupid SC topic in fact.
I’m sitting here in my jammies, half sick, reading my favorite blog. And what do I hear on the news but this:
when Jenny Sanford married Mark Sanford he insisted upon removing the phrase about being faithful to each other from their wedding vows.
WHAT?????
in exile–hope you feel better.
I read the Edwards piece yesterday an almost became ill myself.
Wouldn’t you have thought a loved one might have pulled Jenny aside at the time of the nuptials and given her a bottle labeled ” oncoming doom” pills. What was she thinking? Or not thinking? Faithful is the big one.
AKM, don’t worry, we wouldn’t let you do half of what that guy did.
#3 thanks for that link.
#4 Jenny Sanford, that soon-to-be-ex of yours was trouble from the beginning. You easily could have done better, but other women could learn from you about not standing by when your husband cheats and lies and humiliates you. Hope the sons don’t take after their father.
Palin a hypocrite? When Obama’s WH Chief of Staff uses the word “retarded” he must be fired…but when Rick Perry’s man repeatedly uses the word…?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/04/palin-aide-perry-advisers-remark-crude-and-disrespectful/?fbid=UYuSUWeJs2E
This may have been posted on an earlier thread but it’s worth posting again–A Tale of Two Grifters:
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/grifters-tale/?ref=opinion
The comments are worth a read as well.
The man in the snow would have learned a great deal from our biggest Newf in the pack. Franklin KNOWS that he can hide his 168 lb body if he lowers his head and doesn’t look at anyone.
About smart women in the south, especially of “that” age. I lived in the south for 20 years. I am smart. I am a bit older than “that” age, but there is a prevalence of women who marry weak men, try to prop them up, have children and then when the weakness comes through these weak men, are surprised that the man is unfaithful. Usually, the woman continues in this relationship. Jenny Sanford had to be kicked in the gut again and again and again but this total idiot before she would quit.
Um. . . yes, I tried to be a Southern Bell. Never was very good at it. When I discovered my husband had been unfaithful, kicked him out, and moved north. The Southern family was quite concerned that I just not take him back. Yea, Right.
Oh yes, my boys are not taking after their father. I raised some Strong Men!
(((Newfoundland Dogs Rule)))
I just KNEW you were a strong woman. It shines through.
My old dog, Taffy, would stick her head under a dresser when she heard thunder. Of course, the rest of her big 80-pound body would be visible, but she was sure that nothing bad could find her because her head was hidden. She eventually took to hiding in the bathtub. I finally restorted to giving her a mild sedative to help her through those times.
I’m sorry for that poor fool that he had hypothermia, but what a doofus! I (almost) feel guilty for laughing so hard.
We REALLY need to raise the education bar in this country especially in the area of cause and effect.
As to unrepentent ‘druggies’..just have a bu–load of small islands..drop them off..one per island with a 72 hour emergency kit..and their drug of choice. Come back in..6 months..to see-how-doin’… As to dogs..my eldest newfy knows that she becomes invisable..by standing behind..stacked cord wood ‘support posts’, a tree trunk..or the other newfy..totally-supremly..invisable!!
The Pres made a passing comment to the wingnuts, “Surely you can question my policies without questioning my faith or for that matter my citizenship” I don’t think the audience knew what to do with it at first.
http://bit.ly/aUW9Dg just a short clip of the comment over on CBS
Also saw a post where someone referred to $P as ” tea party spokesmodel , Sarah Palin ” loved it !
Good links OMG @ 6&7. Thanks !
Gorgeous day for Buffalo. Lots of sun and heading in to the 30s. The birds were going gonzo a bit after sunrise when I was out on my walk. They were chattering so loudly and excitedly that it was just a smidge freaky. The squirrels were out in droves too. Almost had me believing spring was on the doorstep.
Morning All !
Thanks heavens for the dogs, they seem to be the only ones with smarts. What a gruesome discovery that who have been come spring.
In regards to Jenny Sanford’s revelations, I realize she is making good money selling the book & it’s payback time, but I’m not so sure it puts her in a very good light & I question having four children with this creep.
Durn – I think I was “moderated” off “The Gryph’ this morning!
He has a post regarding Tim Tebow’s Super Bowl anti-abortion ad, and me, being a Gator fan and thinking Tim Tebow is a decent guy, had to chime in. I am pro choice – if that matters.
My whole point was that if he and his mom want to do this, so what? It’s a bad venue, first of all – this would be a good time to take a potty break or make a beer run. Can you see football fans nation-wide sitting with their eyes glued to the screen waiting to watch an anti-abortion ad?
If the press hadn’t gotten in on this it would be a non-issue. Lots of folks don’t even know who is playing in the Super Bowl, but they sure know about the Tebow ad!
If his mother had aborted him, the next kid would have cured cancer but no, she had to have the football player instead.
Sorry to offend, but I hate this kind of pseudo logic.
BuffaloGal @14…excellent clip of the President, I could help but smile as the audience applauded.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/opinion/03zaretsky.html?em=&pagewanted=all
More on the Tea Bagging call to arms…
At first I felt sorry for jenny Sanford. But the minute she put out a memo stating she would take her creepy husband back all that vanished. I’m sorry but after being humiliated so publicly there would be no way I could do that. Then to find out that she has passed on thoughts, actions, gut feelings about this man makes me question her. Sometimes it’s not wise to ignore things .
@17 lilybart Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 7:30 AM
If his mother had aborted him, the next kid would have cured cancer but no, she had to have the football player instead.
Sorry to offend, but I hate this kind of pseudo logic.
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No offense taken – I totally agree and you said it so well.:)
KO: Retard Summit
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#35226872
BigPete…Thanks for that clip. We’re all waiting for Sarah’s outrage against Rush and, of course, her demand that Perry’s staffer resign. Still waiting…. Still waiting…. Still waiting….
Andrew Sullivan asks the question of whether Palin will demand that Limbaugh be fired just as the NRO explains Emanuel’s use of the “r” word and how people shouldn’t be so sensitive.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2NmMmFlYjUxZjBkNTUzNTYzZjJiMmM1ODk1ZWVmYmM=
Stuck himself into a snowbank… what was he trying to do? Elude the police or win a Darwin Award? Dang, he coulda been soooooo close!
Tigerwine – there’s always a lag with posting on IM… I think he moderates all comments. It’ll show up later.
What is the politcally correct term now according to Palin for things like “flame/fire retardent”? Is she going to want to change that, too?
Is this true? The Palin’s named their first born Track Enfield!!!!
I’m still flabbergasted from Sullivan’s post yesterday noting that the name Tr*g is shorthand for Trisomy-21. I never read this before. It is a huge WTF moment.
#20 @fish hawk – Jenny Sanford said she was willing to forgive Mark, but that reconciliation was another matter, and that the work of reconciliation was up to Mark. She said it was possible she might take him back if he wanted to do the work of reconciliation, but that was going to be up to him.
Shortly after she said that, she and her boys moved out of the governor’s mansion.
Her forgiveness only opened the door – I guess he didn’t want to go through.
I read her stated ‘willingness to forgive’ as wanting to follow her religious beliefs, not that she was excusing his behavior. I’ll admit that HuffPo and others had headlines that made it sound like she would take him back, when what she actually said was only that it was a possibility, IF.
…So I guess she knows now she made a mistake about those vows-
#27 @seagull. ME TOO. Unf*** ing believable. And absolutely horrifying.
Sally @ 25… And what ever shall the French or the Canadians do avec ‘retarde’ ? Will she file that change under ‘foreign policy experience’?
fpr @ 26… BRILLIANT! Now go and have yourself a Guiness! Well deserved!
Those of you above who are surprised by tri-g should look at PalinGates on the blogroll as well as Bree Palin. There are quite a few who are keeping a very careful eye on $P the Granny Grifter and her awful antics.
So far, very little coverage of the tea party convention. Somewhere along the line as I was looking for articles I saw her called , ” ex-mayor, Mrs. Palin”.
Nice.
A collection of some of the links posted on the Mudflats threads ( and elsewhere) can be found updated over at http://www.twitter.com/PalinTruthWatch
You don’t need a twitter account to view them.
I have worked for years with children with disabilities and had many opportunities to read medical files and consult with physicians. I have never heard Down Syndrome be referred to as Tri-G. I just googled it, and nothing came up. I’m all for calling Sarah out, but this seems over the top, even for her. Does anyone have a reference for the use of Tri-G?
Does anyone remember “America’s Dumbest Criminals”?
Thanks for the interesting links. They provided some interesting reading this morning.
Has anyone heard that Palin will be on the Fox Political show on Sunday morning? Someone told me yesterday that she will be on–actually answering questions.
In regards to the Palin baby named Trisomy – 21; I never understood why there wasn’t more outrage about it. I never read/heard anything about SP being asked why she would do such a thing. Did she think it was a secret little joke that common folk wouldn’t get? I don’t get why no one called her out on it.
moon@ 33 Here’s a link
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec23/ch266/ch266b.html
The reason the Trisomy-G connection was not brought up previously (mainstream) was probably because it was so awful, that even repeating it made the person feel awful.
Bad excuse I know.
Google “Trisomy-G”
A lot of clinical papers, and the term is often used in parallel with “Trisomy 21″.
A heads up that we are once again going to be looking for pictures of Brian!
Yep, Valentines Day is coming up and I hear he has plans! So what is the lovestruck moose up to this year? Take a photo if you happen to see him and post it on the forum here:
http://www.themudflats.net/forum/index.php/topic,9096.msg95671.html#msg95671
Once again, pictures will be placed onto the I Heart Mudflats Blog.
This guy is just a good time loving moose, with a heart of gold, maybe that’s why he is loved by so many.
Me too….22 years of advocacy and active parenting of a son with Down syndrome….never heard “tri-g.”
His name is the least of things to worry about for this kid. The lack of advocating, active parenting is. THAT is demonstrable.
Wow, thanks Michigander. I didn’t know I could think any less of Sarah Palin, but she has just sank to a brand new low. That makes her feigned indignation to Rahms gaff even more suspect. I feel nauseous now.
Scarah is going to be in Salina, KS tomorrow (Friday) at some Chamber of Commerce fundraising dinner, a group of people who can’t stand her booked their own dinner and sold tickets to protest, lol. I’ll try to find the link to that.
And gag, she’ll be in Wichita too, May.
Somebody yell the question of her tax evasion while reporters and tv cameras are on her. Ask her about personal responsibility and accountability and all that. Ask her if she feels it was the right thing to do, stealing from fellow Alaskans. Don’t all honest Patriots pay their taxes? or will she turn this into a Tea Party American revolt against our government? don’t pay your taxes, take a stand April 15th, lol. She’s so stupid, and fiscal.
She must be scared, they’re beefing up airport security and law enforcement, that or she just wants a big deal made of her visit. Look at me, I’m so important.
http://www.kwch.com/Global/story.asp?S=11922546
“About 6,000 people will gather to hear former Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin speak at Salina’s Chamber of Commerce Banquet. But before then, the city has a lot of preparing to do.”
moderated, lol…..May 2 is a private school fundraiser.
http://www.kwch.com/Global/story.asp?S=11919009
“will feature a speech followed by a moderated question and answer session with Palin.”
The GOP sounds like they are getting desperate
Sounds more like bribery rather than contribution
snip
Mr. Boehner told Mr. Dimon congressional Republicans had stood up to Mr. Obama’s efforts to curb pay and impose new regulations. The Republican leader also said he was disappointed many on Wall Street continue to donate their money to Democrats, according to the people familiar with the matter.
read more @
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/04/john-boehner-complained-t_n_449259.html
On taxgate:
Can’t someone just ask the assessor how the reporting works on building these homes, and reporting/permits?
We really should have a lot more info on this, and it would make it a stronger story by eliminating many of the excuses being bandied about right now….
Also, aerial shots of the buildings would help tell the story- can’t be hard to find a pilot in Alaska to do that pretty cheap.
If I google *Sarah Palin* in news, the huffpo link is now appearing for AKM’s story. I don’t think I have seen that before. Maybe the dam is breaking?
Agree with RobInCA. Simple is best. Just ask the assessor’s office what the usual routine.
Irishgirl…I saw that link yesterday but sadly few other links to the story from other sources. I hope this gets the media attention that it deserves.
17 lilybart Says:
February 4th, 2010 at 7:30 AM
If his mother had aborted him, the next kid would have cured cancer but no, she had to have the football player instead.
Sorry to offend, but I hate this kind of pseudo logic.
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lilibart: You’ve said it all – brilliantly! “Pseudo logic”/’rwinger logic’ to be sure: if A + B = C, and D + E = C, then A must = D (and, continuing that ‘logic’, B must = E.)
IOW, taking the true statements: 4 + 6 = 10 and 8 + 2 = 10, and applying to them the aforementioned ‘logic’, 4 must = 8 and 6 must = 2, also, too.
Therefore, the ‘logic’ allowing for the mantle of “Wonderful, Selfless, Mother” to be bestowed upon Ms. Tebow for (putting aside her time-line highly-questionable ‘reasons’ for) *not* giving credence to her doctor’s advice/ having an abortion, can equally be applied to other situations. Like with Rahm calling a handful of whacko-idea people “retards” for presenting him with a truly whacko idea, Rahm must have been denigrating SPs DS child [the syndrome, of which, is characterized by a retardation in learning, etc.]
6 must = 2. You betcha…works for me. Not.
Not even with a mandation, does it work for me. beth.
I read the Jenny Sanford wedding vows thing yesterday and it made me feel even more sorry for her. However, she can’t deny that she made a huge mistake marrying this man.
Once again as a Christian I am left to wonder why the HELL my fellow christians are thinking. How Sanford can act so sanctimonious when he never had any intentions to be faithful to the point where he excluded it from his vows is beyond me. I used to think Palin was the one without shame but now it’s becoming clear that being shameless might be the hidden quality in the GOP Purity Test.
I also read palingate’s Tri-g post – I wouldn’t put it pass Palin. She is a terrible human being. Passing off Trig as if he were some prop to be hauled out whenever for her use and parading around the country as if she were some bleeding heart patriot when we all know she’s in it for the money. She oughta be ashamed of herself. I bet if we catch her red handed laundering money thru her PAC, she’d deny it with a bold face lie and be proud of it.
Tnx for that link, OMG. I liked the nice double slam in this comment about Palin:
“Maybe her followers know that she’s a ditz and greedy but they don’t care because if she were elected she would give them what they want anyone: smaller taxes, no regulation and endless war. If that’s your thing, do you really care that she can’t tell Sam Adams from John Adams?”
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/grifters-tale/?ref=opinion
aiiiii!
“Like with Rahm calling a handful of whacko-idea people “retards” for presenting him with a truly whacko idea” SHOULD be: “Like with Rahm calling an idea a handful of whacko-idea people were presenting him with a truly whacko idea, “retarded“.
A. I should have double-checked exactly what I was saying/writing AFTER I’d changed it around and BEFORE I hit “submit”, and,
B. I hope to heaven, the coding I entered for “strike-thru” is the correct codeing. beth.
I have some questions, Mudpups…..when Palin told the story of Trig’s birth, how did that go down in AK? It is an incredible tale, one that hasn’t gotten much attention outside of AK. When it does come up, it’s taken as fact. I mean…….I just find it so hard to believe and more importantly, why did she feel the need to make up such a story, if it is in fact made up. You know what I mean? She said she was pregnant and so naturally people would assume a birth at some point…..so why the need for the drama? Have the baby, announce the birth, done.
I guess I just don’t get her thing of not leaving well enough alone…it’s almost like she goes out of her way to invite attention/scrutiny then turns around later to whine about it. Is it all an elaborate plan to keep the spotlight on her constantly?
Thoughts??
This petition is up for anyone who is interested in signing. The URL is quite long, but I don’t know how to do the tiny urls, etc.
In an age when political and policy discussions are often crammed into soundbites, President Obama and the House Republicans advanced transparency and honest debate with their unprecedented live, televised question-and-answer session on January 29. Since then, people of all political persuasions have been talking about the value of what’s being called “Question Time.” It’s time to start a new American political tradition. We, the undersigned, call on President Obama and the leaders of the Republican Party in Congress to hold regular, frequent, and public Question Time sessions between the President and the opposition party.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHkyOUtmajQ1M3dzU21jc2RBQ3ZfTmc6MA&theme=0AX42CRMsmRFbUy1kN2NjY2Y0Mi1iYWFmLTQxMWMtYjM0NC04NmZmYTIwZDRkMGQ&ifq
double aiiiii!
I didn’t code it correctly. The part that needed, badly, the strike-thru is/was: “with a truly whacko idea”.
The sentence should read: Like with Rahm calling an idea a handful of whacko-idea people were presenting him, “retarded“.
Back to the drawing board. Oh, mandation, mandation, mandation! {Hey, another discovery for the use of the word: it works GREAT as a euphemism for a cuss word!} beth.
I don’t care if Rush was using it as an example or anything else. If we are going to call people out- let’s call people out.
While they are out to put a stop to words- let us please include: stupid, idiot, dumb, dork, dunce. Sarah Palin and any other word that implies a person being “slow witted. “
that was a comma before Sarah- ooofff my wit is slowly slipping away. Ghost writer where are you when I need you?
Interesting post by Andrew Sullivan comparing his (Sullivan’s) treatment of John Edwards vs. his treatment of Sarah Palin:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/02/my-john-edwards-failure.html
Down’s syndrome; Mosaic 21 Syndrome; Translocation 21 Syndrome; Trisomy 21; Trisomy 21 Syndrome; Trisomy G; Trisomy G Syndrome
this list is from a parents website I just found
http://www.icongrouponline.com/health/Down_Syndrome.html
inExile: Edwards was known when he ran for VP and he didn’t have a history of weird stories or lies like Palin, and since no one knew who she was, there was lots of scrutiny by the bloggers, not so much by the MSM.
Also, reporters may have known about the mistress but who wants to out a man whose wife is suffering cancer relapses?
Sullivan’s article is an analysis of his own writing.
And since we’ve mentioned the luv gov a few times today, here he is, at the Nat’l Prayer Bkfst (via BAGnewsNotes on Twitter)
http://bit.ly/bwQCYd
aussiegal77, a sociopath tells elaborate lies to get their end result. The more sympathetic and/or awed people are by them is crucial to a sociopath. They can’t feel for others but they are masters at manipulating others feelings. The people being manipulated can’t imagine making up something so outrageous, therefore it MUST be true. My family has been victimized by a male version of SP for years so this behavior hits close my heart. I am still afraid )o:
CNN was just reporting that a 6.0 earthquake was reported off the Northern Coast of CA… about 2 hours North of San. Fran.
It was about 20 miles offshore and no reports of any damage. 6.0 is pretty big though.
michigander: thank you and I’m sorry you have to deal with this up close and personal. It sheds some light on her behaviour. Have you seen the latest odd story about Palin allegedly calling Scott Brown to congratulate him on his win but Brown claims to not even know her? So many of these weird stories follow Palin that it’s hard to ignore.
In your experience – how do we deal with/confront/expose a sociopath? Is it possible? Or is the delusion too deep on their part? It’s getting to a point where everything Palin says is taken as truth by the MSM with no questions asked…..and each day I am dumbfounded anew by their lack of curiosity at the very least!
The 6 pointer..has caused the ..mid Oregon moniters to shake/rattle/roll..on the website out of Washington state. Check the ….PNSN site..interesting to see the ‘shadow-reflections’ so to speak here in the Eugene area..and the Cascades. As we get more..from 4.5..and up..we are slowly shaking loose the areas that have..held us down..for so long..and..moving us increasingly..toward the ..interesting one..to eventually arrive. Got your 72 hour packs..both in vehicle..and ..in house/apt? Our family members do..and have for years.
Don Imus this morning asked Chris Wallace, “when you interview Palin, will she be sitting on your lap.” Chris Wallace responded, “one can only hope,” Oh, Oh.
With AKM’s story about S’errors imaginary house that requires ‘ ZERO ‘ Taxes because after all it is ‘ Imaginary ‘…I am curious about what Andree McLeod’s reaction has been. What kind of perspective would she have or share because Andee has posted here on these threads in the past and just last week had comments on Bree Palin. And Sarah was ” the Governor ” when this happened.
Is there anyone locally there in the Mat-Su area that has called and or asked the Tax assessor for a response or opinion..?
If they wait long enough Sarah might respond through Meg and the Tax office will just AGREE with her explanation. Because after all… that is just easier and more politically correct.
This way the Palin-bots won’t ‘ threaten ‘ someone in the Office either.
I have visited the other side today to see what the discussion is. The tax problem is downplayed as an assessor’s mistake. The important news of the day is that President Obama pronounced, “Corps” as “Corpse.” LOL, maybe the Indian caption writers are doing the teleprompter. (Those of you who use closed captions watching TV know how humorous some of them are.)
Topshelf baby !! That’s what you call it in Boulder , Co.
Was the female passenger Diane Palin?
NOW should speak up and put Chris Wallace and Imus in their place, for that sexist remark. Sarah, by your silence, you are agreeing that you are not a serious political contender, and nothing more than a pin-up girl that naughty little boy’s can fantasize about. What has the United States become?
aussiegal77 – Yes, I heard about the Brown/Palin story, also that his spokeperson now says that she did call but they had forgotten or something. Hard telling where the truth lies in that one but I’m guessing his ‘handlers’ don’t know whether she will be poison or perfume for his political future so are being careful o:
As far as your other questions: A true sociopath has no conscience so they can’t be cured. I tried to deal with/confront and expose, even through the court system (last 2006). We had family members, friends and aquaintances turn against us, they thought we were paranoid, he was THAT believable. He used us to get to them and has stolen from and destroyed many of their relationships/lives since. Still running free and working as an administrator for a Christian based rehabilitation center.
Oh dear, this was not helpful and I have re-written it several times! I can’t even write what he did, maybe someday. But I DO believe that people should not give up in trying to expose the lies of people like him. And I know my experiance is why I fear Sarah Palin’s lies. Sorry such a weird response xxxxoooo
Dern, my comment went to moderation…Is the word s e x i s t not allowed?
I wonder how common it is for women to be sociopaths?
Michigander: My sympathies for your experience. We are coming to a realization of this problem in my family, and it really shakes you up fundamentally. You want to believe the person is okay inside and redeemable, but your efforts to help become enabling.
In the past I have been told that the first person in a family who seeks out psychological help is probably the sanest one. The others are bucked up by delusions and their own needs.
michigander sometimes people like that actually believe their lies,I also lived with someone who believed his own lies until I found out the truth and confronted him and he did not have an answer,now 3 years
later he is back to conning people.friends and family alike and it makes it worse because i supposedly was family or so i thought.Many things he did and said seemd true at the time but not now.They just can’t be trusted with anything
Jack Cafferty at CNN asks a question just now about the Tea-Party movement.
Post a comment there this hour. To quote Levi ” Get Crackin “….
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/04/how-seriously-do-you-take-the-tea-party-movement/#comment-1206068
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I’ll wait and see if my comment gets by the mods.
Jack,
ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that Sarah Palins stands for is HYPOCRISY… and nothing else. That should be her middle name. Sarah ‘ Hypocrisy ‘ Palin. All these TeaParty people shout about high taxes. Sarah has a ‘ common sense solution ‘ for that. She hasn’t PAID her taxes for the last 6 years on her Chalet property up in Alaska. She wants others to pay taxes…..she doesn’t have to. And she did this while she was Governor.
Tell your network to ask her some questions about it. Read the story Jack… you will love it. ( also posted on Huffpo )
http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/03/the-envelope-please
I always thought “Trig” was for pistol packin’ Palin.
Sandra in Oregon –
The important news of the day is that President Obama pronounced, “Corps” as “Corpse.”
Without context, it’s impossible to tell, but if PObama was using Corps as a shortened form of Corporations, he was correct in the way he pronounced it. If he was talking about the Marine Corps – not so much.
Ummm the former half term Gov must be speechless today. However, her spokesperson — Meg emailed a response
fairly small article – from HuffPo link
Palin believes Limbaugh’s repeated use of the word “retard” yesterday was “crude and demeaning,” her spokesperson emails.
In the wake of Palin’s demand that Rahm Emanuel be fired for saying the liberal activist strategy on health care was “f–king retarded,” a bunch of people have been asking how she’d react to Limbaugh’s tirade on the air yesterday.
“Our political correct society is acting like some giant insult’s taken place by calling a bunch of people who are retards, retards,” Rush said, adding that Rahm’s meeting yesterday with advocates for the mentally handicapped was a “retard summit at the White House.”
I asked Palin spokesperson Meghan Stapleton for comment on Rush’s rant, and she emailed me this:
“Governor Palin believes crude and demeaning name calling at the expense of others is disrespectful.”
It hardly has the passion of her response to Rahm, and there’s no call for him to step down. But given Rush’s stature among conservatives, it’s pretty interesting that she went this far, denouncing his on-air rant as “crude and demeaning name-calling.”
perhaps more being posted later …. @
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/palin-camp-rips-limbaugh-hits-his-retard-comment-as-crude-and-demeaning/
Enjay…..
Palin did not respond.
Meg did. And the email response she sent was word for the word the response that Meg also sent about Rick Perry’s aide Mr. Carney, who also used the very bad word.
Palin is staying out of both situations and not responding on her facebook page like she did with Rahm.
It is in keeping with her normal level of consistency and integrity. Business as usual.
Yes, I posted that Palin was “speechless” but Meg sent an email
Here is good link with a concise definition of a sociopath:
http://personalitydisorders.suite101.com/article.cfm/personality_traits_of_a_psychopath I urge you to read it. The person I know was/is the worst of it.
sandra in oregon, jojobo, I don’t think this is a common disorder which is one reason why it is so difficult to diagnose. Also, if you have the disorder you are pre-set to deceive everyone around you including an analyst. I hope the people you know are just cons, they can be helped but a sociopath is a lost cause and needs to be cut out of your life completely.
A (strange but good) example is from the TV show Lost. Sawyer is a good con man but not a sociopath as was Locke’s father. Just in case you follow that show….
Trying to lighten up and sending good thoughts (o:
Enjay and Rob, seems Lil Miss is trying to ride a fence, I hope she hits that post full face soon.
Enjay – so sorry. You had it perfectly right in your post, and I don’t know how I didn’t see that when I read it. My error!
Michigander, thanks for the visual!
AP has picked up the Palin tax story
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PALIN_PROPERTY_TAXES?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
michigander @80 -
Thanks for the link. I also have someone in my family who exhibits nearly all of the personality traits listed in this article. Several of us have tried for years to get this person to admit that she needed help but were always the ones being blamed for everything that was wrong. We recently discovered a series of financial and legal transactions going back almost 20 years that were done by manipulating and lying to everyone. Even those of us who have been the victims of this person’s deliberately hurtful behavior for years were shocked at the depths of evil we are still uncovering. For weeks, my stomach knotted every time the phone rang or I checked the mailbox, because every day brought a new revelation, worse than the last.
We have since made the painful but necessary choice to walk away from this person, who is an extremely close relative. There are many people in this person’s life who believe every lie that she has told about us, but we know that the only thing we can do is completely cut her out of our lives forever and not dwell on what we cannot change.
It is truly amazing how much damage people with this kind of personality can do to families and communities. You have my sympathy and my understanding.
Looks like the Tea Party Convention is “firing up” or fizzling…take your pick.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-brantzawadzki/tea-partiers-converge-on_b_449614.html
I love this quote from the article:
“Congresswomen Michele Bachmann (R-MN) and Marsha Blackburn(R-TX) have both bowed out of speaking, citing possible House ethics violations. Keynote speaker Sarah Palin, however, has refused to abandon what most of the rest of the Tea Party movement sees as a sinking ship.”
Looks like the AP has finally picked up on Cabingate:
http://ap.juneauempire.com/pstories/state/ak/20100204/558852046.shtml
Oh my God! Is anyone watching Olberman? He is doing a segment about Palin and use of retard. You have to see this, the Glen Beck clip. Oh my.
Yay Juneau Empire and the AP!!! I was just going to post this! I saw that someone else had already posted it in the Huffpo comments section!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Someone’s panties are gonna be in a big knot tonight! LOL
A local republican wannabe called me a retard today because I told him s’error palin is stupid. I took it as a compliment until I remembered that palin is more retarded than stupid.
A small clip from the article… way to be ignorant Van Flea.
“Palin’s attorney, Thomas Van Flein, says it is not the property owners responsibility to report structures or assess themselves.
But Dave Dunivan, the Matanuska-Susitna Borough assessor, says owners are required by state statues to report any omissions or errors in their tax assessments.”
michigander,,, can empathize with your situation,,, a former acquaintance from softball ( 8 yrs same team) was convicted of rape and sodomy 2 years ago, and is presently charged with murder of a pregnant co-worker.. small town was just stunned..Everyone knew them both, and the rape trial was a real divider in the town – how could someone so nice be capable of either of these crimes… then the closets opened up, and the guy basically hung himself when put inthe spotlight…his arrogance led him to testify , and he cooked his own goose.
you know, this is why I LOVE you guys. people come here and share so much of their lives. I wish I could meet each and everyone of you and have a long chat over tea and cakes.
thank you all for your perspective and thanks for the link, I will definitely read it.
for those of you who have had to deal with destructive people in your lives, I applaud your courage and the will to walk away. I hope that for the few people who have hurt you, you have gained and retain many many true friends in their place.
XXOO
Cabingate is up on frontpage HuffPo! With an update from Van Flein & assessor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/04/palin-did-not-pay-taxes-o_n_450344.html
Here’s another clip from the AP/Juneau Empire story:
“…the local borough assessor says an aerial survey of the area was being conducted for the first time in five years on Thursday.”
Ahem….the timing of the survey sure is interesting. Congratulations, AKM!!!
I’m bumping up maribel’s post 288 from the tax cheat thread about the assessments of the Palins’ Lake Lucille property. I thought the red barn was valued at just under half a million on Palin’s pre election declaration. Refer to the original post for the tax roll links. I hope someone is doing screen captures of this stuff.
#288: The correct links are below for the Wasilla house tax assessments. The Palins own two adjoining lots on Lake Wasilla, 1120 and 1140 W. Parks Hwy.
#1120 lists land value at 27,000 and bldg at 27,500
#1140 lists land value at 116,000 and bldg at zero
How is this possible? What you seen their Lake Lucille house? It’s a stunner. How could the building be valued at only 27,500? (and why has it decreased in value in the last two years from 29,800?
http://www.wimp.com/babymoose/
Note to Mr. Van Flein on his lawyerly explanation:
Hogwash!! You can’t convince me that Palin never became acquainted with local property tax laws during her eight years as the mayor of Wasilla. Do you enjoy sounding ignorant as well as deceptive, Mr. VF?
I think I know why the tax assessor didn’t know about the improvements to the Palin property that was still showing, on the books, as unimproved vacant land:
The Palins never pulled any building permits whatsoever. These apparently vary from region to region, and for smaller structures in some municipalities not all of them are required, but I have a feeling those improvements were done on the sly, with no permits or code compliance inspections whatsoever.
Just to be sure, I checked it out. And according to the Matanuska-Susitna Borough website’s Code Compliance Division:
“When constructing or placement of any building 480 square feet, or an addition to an existing structure greater than 10 percent of the existing square footage; requires a Mandatory Land Use Permit. A Borough Code Officer will review the application and determine compliance with Setbacks, Zoning, Flood Plain Development standards, Conditional Uses and other related ordinances.”
They are so very busted.
If they *had* pulled any building permits, any at all, the tax authorities would have known there were improvements being made to the property, right?
the norwegian blue
The Problem is that Huffington Post put up the AP story instead of AKM’s story. Basically the AP story is a rewrite of AKM’s post about this, so Rachel D’ORO is getting the headlines for AKM’s breaking story.
While I am glad that the story is getting attention AKM deserves the credit for it not D’ORO!
That is TOTAL BS!
Correction to post 99:
I just picked this up at HuffPo re the Lake Lucille houses- the story was based on the wrong tax file:
“Actually, the listing ending in “1231000T00E” is for another piece of property, not the one at 1140 Parks Highway. Here’s the link for the one at 1140 Parks Highway:
http://www.matsugov.us/myproperty/detail.aspx?taxID=1054B01L003”
Thus gives a building assessment of 416,000– close to the campaign declaration.
The HuffPo “cabin” story by the AP has exploded with comments. No moderation in effect.
Way to go, AKM!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/04/palin-did-not-pay-taxes-o_n_450344.html
With all that’s come out these last few days, it’s one of those times that provokes one to ask where have all the good guys gone? is there no integrity, or honesty anymore? Those in power, media, seem to lie without blinking. Exagerrating, lying, manipulating, twisting truth, and the worst, those who use people and get away with it.
If it wasn’t for the good guys who understand and know the truth, it would be a pretty sad state of affairs. Thank God for blogs like this and others who seek the truth, and stand up to deception. I think this election, media and the Palin affair have taught us that beauty, charm and charisma hold a kind of hypnotic effect on gullible people. Sadly, people vote officials in with their eyes, not their heads. And, the Sarah phenomenon is a perfect example of why celebrity idol-worshipping shouldn’t mix with politics. Pride comes before a fall.
The Republican party must be going through an identity crisis right now, not surprisingly.
Kate – the red house is assessed at $416,300-structure and $116,200-land. The new property, #1120 W. Parks, is $0-structure and $116,700.
Here’s the link for the red house assessment:
http://www.matsugov.us/myproperty/detail.aspx?taxID=1054B01L003
we all know that palin continually pushes the envelope…playing ignorant to the hilt…breaking the law constantly…always an excuse of this or that.
I’m actually tired of hearing the never-ending lists, ranging from her short-comings to her blatant violations…the question is not that she’s doing these things (she may be a quitter, but this stuff she won’t quit) but when is SOMEBODY going to punish her for them? You or I would’ve been in jail by now…and we can’t play the misinformed card.
Slank @ 100 That was beautiful awesome and oh my so precious! AKM must see this and this wins the Brian contest hands down IMHO. Brian would be so proud. I had to send it out to my kids and Dad. Check it out puppies!
Love you all so much
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Energy companies must be held accountable for environmental degradation (something Alaskans are all too familiar with).
Health and peace.
I am so glad that AKM researched and got this story rolling. Bless the source and bless our dear AKM. Grassroots growing from the mudflats. She will be her own downfall if we keep raking.
leenie17, BenL, aussie, Slank for the video, everyone peace and big hugs (o:
I’ve been reading comments and links off and on all day and evening, including over at HuffPo. Comments are still rolling over there.
Good job everyone,
GREAT WORK AKM!
and
Good night, all.
Wow, AKM! You’ve really hit the big time with your secret sources and scandalous breaking story, now being picked up by that lazy MSM (ya know…the ones that let the bloggers do all the hard stuff!). You’re becoming quite the Woodward/Bernstein of Alaska!
Keep up the great work and we’ll soon see the last of the Grifter Barbie!!!
Go check out Andrew Sullivan’s blog – he has another post about Sarah, Limbaugh and the R word. Apparently a new press release by Mego that states she wasn’t specifically pointing to Limbaugh (The Michael Steel Defense -tm)
AND there’s a nice new Beck clip of him using the term too. Popcorn!
Gee , the new guy is a dumbf^*k. Hope you guys in Mass. are happy with your choice of Scott Brown.
Newly-sworn Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown says the last economic stimulus bill did not create even one new job, a claim that most economists would dispute.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/04/AR2010020403908.html
I wish Perry would say this to sarah when she comes to Texas this Sunday. Glad I’m in Colorado.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4tWZNxnABk
114 austintx Says: February 4th, 2010 at 8:03 PM
Gee , the new guy is a dumbf^*k. Hope you guys in Mass. are happy with your choice of Scott Brown.
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A good part of MA has forgotten about Scott Brown due to the death-by-bully of Phoebe Prince in South Hadley – home of uber-liberal Mount Holyoke College. The school district told a local newspaper that their investigation of the matter is complete and that there’s likely to be a press conference tomorrow as to… well, they told 3 different media outlets 3 different things about what to expect tomorrow. Police and DA investigations continue regardless and could take a few months to complete.
Judging by comments left at my blog (comments are moderated), people in the western part of MA are really ticked that this girl died this way. It’s overshadowed (and replaced) the election of Brown.
11 pieces of anti-bullying legislation being considered but not one piece will actually make it into law and so some other kid will soon die without any consequences to the bullies.
AKM – I hope you have a hard copy of the tax assessment. I’d swear when I looked at it before the address on record was the Palin’s home address. The address now showing is Scott Richter’s PO box and HuffPost article has been updated with the appraiser’s office saying the bill goes to Scott.
so my next question is : how did the Palins pay for the construction of these two “cabins” ? Are these “Ted Specials” ? WHERE is the IRS ??? Does Alaska’s Dept of Law have a Fraud department ?
Richter (willingly) goes under the bus, why is anyone surprised? It was set up that way. Everything has been carefully orchestrated since the beginning (The Mandation of Sa-Rah). The taxes will be paid and the point will be made that Sarah Palin has been victimized once again. Blecch, pfft.
I do want to know what is up with Alaska that they pay such a small amount for property taxes. Jeez, you guys are wealthy compared to Michigan!
I tried to direct posters questions to AKM’s post on Huffpo from Rachel D’Oros. I could be wrong but I don’t think AKM cares so much about the spotlight right now as she does the results. The credit will come in due time. Thank you for all you do, keep on going girl (o:
AKM,
Since the story broke, has the address of the property owner been changed to a Big Lake PO Box from a Park Ave, Wasilla address.
This was just pointed out at the Bree Palin site by a commenter.
http://www.matsugov.us/myproperty/detail.aspx?taxID=2357B04L012-1
They’re setting up Richter to take the fall.
mxm, the address hasn’t changed as far as I recall and I clicked all links when AKM first posted.
ds55 – that’s what I think (119) as I’m sure many of us do. It is her pattern afterall.
Sarah will NEVER comply with the Spirit of the Law, if she can gain by manipulating things so that she is not breaking the strict lettering of it.
It’s like dealing with a teenager …”be home by 11″….you didn’t say Pm or AM, Dad!!!…
@94, R’ip — I’m pretty sure that every property-taxing agency has laws that say the property owner is responsible to keep their info up to date.
I mean, otherwise you have SWAT teams of assessors in black helicopters; and it’s been years since any municipality could afford black helicopters.
Van Fluck is indulging in the perennial attorney-speak favorite known as busshlitt.
If you use the Googles the Palin Cabin Tax story of AKM’s is popping up everywhere. NYT, L.A. Times, MSNBC and various other papers now.
I see that the AZ Central has posted it as well… as I chuckle
I wonder If McCain still wants her to come..? Is he embarrassed… Yet?
You deserve her John. The signs when she shows up there are going to be so much fun.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/04/20100204sarah-palin-cabins-propery-tax.html
I’m thinking AKM knows there’s much more to this story, but has presented only the facts she could solidly substantiate because she’s smart like that.
I hope someone (bloggers or readers) can flesh out the rest of this mess soon.
They look like vary large 2 story homes. Those don’t come cheap. Even if Toad and his “buddies” did all the labor the supplies add up to 6 figures easily. Not to mention the transportation to get them into the site.
Since the chalet is mentioned in stories even before the VP nod I want to know how they paid for these homes. Are there mortgages? Just how were they paid for?
I heard this story while listening to Shannyn’s show the other day.
Who else is doing this in Wasilla..?
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” Mat-Su narcotics investigators say they’ve broken up a mom-and-son commercial marijuana growing operation after finding garbage sacks full of weed inside a Wasilla home.
Alaska Bureau of Alcohol and Drug Enforcement investigators arrested Wasilla resident Jane C. Cain, 51, and her son, Palmer resident Katsuhige C. Lewis, 29, on drug charges after discovering 20 pounds of freshly cut marijuana stuffed into garbage bags. ”
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/147486
Excellent article tonight on HuffPo regarding federal funding to faith-based organizations –
“Faith, Hope and Charity: Why President Obama’s ‘Faith-Based’ Agenda Must Change”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barry-w-lynn/faith-hope-and-charity-wh_b_450099.html
“Mr. President, this is not “change,” and I am losing “hope.” Please set your “faith-based” house in order. Shut down the Faith-based Council and issue executive orders and regulations clearly banning hiring bias and proselytizing by faith-based groups that take public funds.”
(Author The Rev. Barry W. Lynn is executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State.)
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Way to go, AKM, on the tax story!!!
EyeOnYou Says:
The Problem is that Huffington Post put up the AP story instead of AKM’s story. Basically the AP story is a rewrite of AKM’s post about this, so Rachel D’ORO is getting the headlines for AKM’s breaking story.
While I am glad that the story is getting attention AKM deserves the credit for it not D’ORO!
That is TOTAL BS!
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Yes, I agree. AKM’s post should have been on the front page.
However, I am delighted to hear that this is now getting more attention from the MSM.
@ sauerkraut, I was very saddened to hear of the suicide of that young Irish girl. That is just so awful.