Comments on: Voices from the Flats – Public Testimony Today! http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/ Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:08:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sudsy http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171422 sudsy Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:36:50 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171422 There is no state benefit in shuttling around the elected executive branch family members. There is no authority to pay for it either. We cannot afford these extravagances. The elected executive official is a member of a private economic unit. That is his/her business. If he/she is uncomfortable traveling without his/her family members and or mom and dad and ten delinquent (or not) children that is his/her private personal economic reality. Not ours. Furthermore, individuals who are functioning ethically outside of standard ethical expectations and norms can expect a surprising amount of formal complaints. The people of the state of Alaska should not be reimbursing the cottage industry of extravagant legal fees behind which the guilty may wish to hide and which may grow from the remarkably inconsistent ethical lapses as presented within necessary, formal complaints. It is exactly that social friction if you will which causes (some) unethical executives to elevate the institutional behavior so as to inhibit opportunity for excess expenses in this area. It does not meet the publics' needs to pass this very personal "feedback" back to the electorate. This is not what was envisioned when these ignored laws were written so elegantly years ago. There is no state benefit in shuttling around the elected executive branch family members. There is no authority to pay for it either. We cannot afford these extravagances. The elected executive official is a member of a private economic unit. That is his/her business. If he/she is uncomfortable traveling without his/her family members and or mom and dad and ten delinquent (or not) children that is his/her private personal economic reality. Not ours.

Furthermore, individuals who are functioning ethically outside of standard ethical expectations and norms can expect a surprising amount of formal complaints. The people of the state of Alaska should not be reimbursing the cottage industry of extravagant legal fees behind which the guilty may wish to hide and which may grow from the remarkably inconsistent ethical lapses as presented within necessary, formal complaints. It is exactly that social friction if you will which causes (some) unethical executives to elevate the institutional behavior so as to inhibit opportunity for excess expenses in this area. It does not meet the publics’ needs to pass this very personal “feedback” back to the electorate. This is not what was envisioned when these ignored laws were written so elegantly years ago.

]]> By: Lee323 http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171421 Lee323 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:32:01 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171421 @ 13 Sphincterkaos says: “You have the right to complain, as long as nobody can hear you.” ----------------------------------------------------- ...which brings up this really, really deep philosophical question: If a citizen files an ethics complaint in the forest but nobody is allowed to hear it, does that mean the ethics violation never happened? Answer: Yes. Go Linda!! Stick to your guns on this issue! We're proud of you! @ 13 Sphincterkaos says:
“You have the right to complain, as long as nobody can hear you.”
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…which brings up this really, really deep philosophical question:

If a citizen files an ethics complaint in the forest but nobody is allowed to hear it, does that mean the ethics violation never happened?

Answer: Yes.

Go Linda!! Stick to your guns on this issue! We’re proud of you!

]]> By: Seagull Junker Palin http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171410 Seagull Junker Palin Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:42:17 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171410 Is it over? What happened? Is it over? What happened?

]]> By: Wolfe Tone http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171394 Wolfe Tone Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:33:14 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171394 Shouldn't Albert Kookesh recuse himself from any hearing on <a href="http://oneceltsview.blogspot.com/2010/01/senator-al-kookesh-luca-brasi-of.html" rel="nofollow">ethics complaints</a>? I know he can't, but you know what I mean. Shouldn’t Albert Kookesh recuse himself from any hearing on ethics complaints?

I know he can’t, but you know what I mean.

]]> By: Sphincterkaos http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171381 Sphincterkaos Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:11:47 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171381 Alaskan Human Rights Policy "You have the right to complain, as long as nobody can hear you." Alaskan Human Rights Policy

“You have the right to complain, as long as nobody can hear you.”

]]> By: Rob in Ca http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171369 Rob in Ca Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:10:32 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171369 HIG: way to go! Great point, too! HIG: way to go! Great point, too!

]]> By: honestyinGov http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171367 honestyinGov Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:05:03 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171367 Wooo Hooo... Shannyn just used my email example to her on the air. The one about a reporter putting out a story which creates the cause for an Ethics Complaint by Joe Citizen. I guess the coffee kicked in and my brain woke up. ;-) I need to think of something else smart before it wears off. Maybe I will invent the 'iPalm '... Oopps two days late for THAT. Wooo Hooo… Shannyn just used my email example to her on the air.
The one about a reporter putting out a story which creates the cause for an Ethics Complaint by Joe Citizen.

I guess the coffee kicked in and my brain woke up. ;-)
I need to think of something else smart before it wears off.
Maybe I will invent the ‘iPalm ‘… Oopps two days late for THAT.

]]> By: Irishgirl http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171366 Irishgirl Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:03:47 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171366 Oh, I think it was Linda rather than Lyda that I missed. Oh, I think it was Linda rather than Lyda that I missed.

]]> By: Irishgirl http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171365 Irishgirl Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:02:24 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171365 Drat, hubby came in and I missed Lyda. Drat, hubby came in and I missed Lyda.

]]> By: aha http://www.themudflats.net/2010/02/08/voices-from-the-flats-public-testimony-today/#comment-171363 aha Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:58:22 +0000 http://www.themudflats.net/?p=9930#comment-171363 If I understand, correctly, what is being proposed is: if a filed complaint is talked about it will be dismissed regardless if there is a violation. Huh? The public official's reputation is more important than the public's protection? I don't see what one has to do with the other. This is faulty logic to let the public official off the hook for whatever violation has occurred and should be rejected on its face. If I understand, correctly, what is being proposed is: if a filed complaint is talked about it will be dismissed regardless if there is a violation.

Huh? The public official’s reputation is more important than the public’s protection?
I don’t see what one has to do with the other. This is faulty logic to let the public official off the hook for whatever violation has occurred and should be rejected on its face.

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